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Red and Blue: Jarom Jordan on BYU men's hoops' loss to No. 1 Arizona, Future resume building opportunities, BYU FB's schedule + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 3: you to tell him Jerem Jordan sent you. He joins
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  Speaker 3: us to talk about the BYU Cougars, who were featured
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  Speaker 3: last night in a nationally relevant, certainly Big twelve relevant
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  Speaker 3: conference matchup against the number one team in the Nation,
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  Speaker 3: the University of Arizona on the home floor at Marriott Center.
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  Speaker 1: Jerem Jordan BYU Sports Nation, friend of the show. How
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  Speaker 2: In Santa Quinn. They're like, Jereum Jordanston, Sorry, who what
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  Speaker 2: They're like, oh, Sean O'Connell, the MMA guy had the
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  Speaker 2: funny MMA guy. That's hilyricous. Yeah, Hey, last night was
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  Speaker 2: wild Man's great atmosphere. A bunch of the jazz guys
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  Speaker 2: were there, of course, to the Wildcat Lowry marking in.
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  Speaker 2: There are a ton of national media descended on the game,
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  Speaker 2: and it delivered from an entertainment standpoint. I mean, boy
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  Speaker 2: was getting out played quite a bit for about thirty
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  Speaker 2: eight minutes to that, and then suddenly by Wilson down
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  Speaker 2: to one somehow. I mean, there's a flavorant one, a
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  Speaker 2: jump ball, all kinds of things happening, an offensive alcohol
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  Speaker 2: I didn't agree with. But Boi benefit of Trump, you know,
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  Speaker 2: hashtag Tony Padilla. So it was it was wild Man
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  Speaker 2: and uh, you know, Boi had a look and Brayden
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  Speaker 2: Burry's made an incredible defensive play just bailing on Canard Davis.
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  Speaker 2: He bill ruffles it, so he tips it and possessed it,
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  Speaker 2: and then, uh, you know, BOI loses by three. So
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  Speaker 2: Cougar's man A J. D. Bonsa and Robert at the
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  Speaker 2: third went nine to forty and BOI had a possession
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  Speaker 2: to try and win that. What if they just have
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  Speaker 2: an average game? Like, does Boi you win the game?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was it was wild. I don't take
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  Speaker 2: a single moral victory from the situation. You know, BOI lost,
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  Speaker 2: but like it's it's encouraging in terms of I guess
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  Speaker 2: that is a more victory of didn't play that well
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  Speaker 2: and we're right there with clearly the best team in
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  Speaker 2: the country. So I hope BOI gets after it and
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  Speaker 2: plays a great game at Kansas Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: So you've got an opportunity for a quad one in
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  Speaker 3: against Kansas on Saturday. Obviously that's a really good team.
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  Speaker 3: You got a bunch of really good teams on the
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  Speaker 3: slate for BYU, because that's how life is in this
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  Speaker 3: Big twelve conference. Before we move on to Kansas, though
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  Speaker 3: you already mentioned the inefficiencies of debonsa and of Rob
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  Speaker 3: right the third AJ we've seen like really really incredible
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  Speaker 3: moments from him where you're like, oh, that's the number
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  Speaker 3: one overall pick. We've seen less than that the real version.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's a freshman, so you got to give
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  Speaker 3: it some grace.
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  Speaker 1: But like the.
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  Speaker 3: Average version of AJ debonsa. Is he the number one
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  Speaker 3: player in college basketball?
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  Speaker 2: I think he is, And I'm really impressed by Darren
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  Speaker 2: Peterson win healthy. The only issue with Darren is he's
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  Speaker 2: just not healthy, and he had kind of a quad issue,
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  Speaker 2: dehydration issues, and then he rolled his ankle a couple
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  Speaker 2: of games ago. I don't think you played last weekend.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see if he he is good to go on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: I certainly hope you. I think that matchup with he
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  Speaker 2: and AJ would be really fun. But yeah, to your
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  Speaker 2: point about AJ, by the way, he doesn't turn nineteen
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  Speaker 2: until Thursday of this week, so happy birthday a jan
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  Speaker 2: And this is an eighteen year old kids still in
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  Speaker 2: a man's body for sure. Six nine s have put
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  Speaker 2: wingspan so skilled. I do think he should be the
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  Speaker 2: number one pick in the draft. I think he's the
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  Speaker 2: most ready right now. And if I was that teams GM.
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  Speaker 2: I would pick AJ, but obviously I've got an extreme
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  Speaker 2: bias given that I've got no AJ and the family
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  Speaker 2: and their amazing, great character. He's gonna be everything you
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  Speaker 2: want the front facing number one pick potentially to be.
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  Speaker 2: If he's not number one, he's gonna be the top
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  Speaker 2: three for sure with Cam Boozer of Duke and Dan
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  Speaker 2: Peterson Kansas. So he's been good, and yeah, he had
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  Speaker 2: a low point against Texas Tech thirteen points. He was
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  Speaker 2: getting the shots he won and he just didn't make
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  Speaker 2: a lot of them. And Texas TeX's a good defensive
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  Speaker 2: team as well. Arizona's defense is really good. They have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of good physical guards and you know they
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  Speaker 2: have refreshman themselves in the starting lineup, notably Cole Pete,
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  Speaker 2: Braden Burry's. These guys are first rounders too. I think
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  Speaker 2: in Cole Pete's probably the top ten guy. Berry's playing
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  Speaker 2: himself maybe in the top ten times fifteen, So there
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  Speaker 2: are no slows. It was a good matchup in six
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  Speaker 2: twenty four, certainly not what AJ wanted, but he did
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  Speaker 2: go to the line sixteen times, like, threw a lot
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  Speaker 2: of fouls, able to get to the strike, and so yeah,
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  Speaker 2: This is good for a J it's good for BYU,
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  Speaker 2: and he could he have played a little bit better. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 2: his dad wants him to pull down ten boards a game.
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  Speaker 2: So after he scores forty three against the Utes, eight
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  Speaker 2: de Moonson was like, not good enough, didn't get ten boards.
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  Speaker 1: That's all we all knew. Dad's like that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very lucky I didn't have one because I was
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  Speaker 3: not getting ten boards or forty three points.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my dad was just happy I was on the
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  Speaker 2: team at all. So different levels of support. Eight told
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  Speaker 2: me one time, he said, he told AJ, when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to you in your progress, what you could become.
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  Speaker 2: He said, I'm not going to be your friend. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be your kind of manager and help coach
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  Speaker 2: you and push you, and we're gonna get to a
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  Speaker 2: certain level here. It was it was one summer when
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  Speaker 2: he was a teenager and he grew five inches and
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  Speaker 2: that's when he was Aja said, I was playing basketball
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  Speaker 2: fun before that, but then I realized, wait, I could
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  Speaker 2: actually be in the NBA if I work hard enough.
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  Speaker 2: And so he put his head down and so far,
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  Speaker 2: so good. He's been incredible this year and hopefully Boyd
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  Speaker 2: plays a great game at Kansas. As you mentioned, not
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  Speaker 2: just the quad one opportunity, it's a quad one A.
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  Speaker 2: So what that means is like the better ones, there's
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  Speaker 2: one B in one A one A for a road
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  Speaker 2: game would be one through forty, neutral one through thirty,
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  Speaker 2: and then home game one through fifteen. This is road
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  Speaker 2: so joy does not I have a Quad one A win.
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  Speaker 2: There're only three in the Quad one A opportunities. It's
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  Speaker 2: a much needed piece of the resume, and ber has
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  Speaker 2: lots of opportunities. But if you want to be a
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  Speaker 2: top three seed, I think a four seed for me
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  Speaker 2: with BOYU would be a little disappointing. If they're not
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  Speaker 2: inside the top twelve teams there going into March madness,
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  Speaker 2: that'd be a little bummer because I think just goober talent,
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  Speaker 2: they and they have the schedule to merit it from
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  Speaker 2: non conference and obviously in the Big twelve, so it's
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  Speaker 2: a big game for that. You want to add those
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  Speaker 2: Quad one A not just squad one but Quad one
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  Speaker 2: A wins as well.
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  Speaker 3: So this is very much a Utah Lens type approach
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  Speaker 3: to watching this game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, But.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, BYU playing against the
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  Speaker 3: number one team in the country, played hard, fought hard,
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  Speaker 3: got themselves a chance to win it ultimately came up short.
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  Speaker 3: Not wholly dissimilar from when Utah hosted BYU at the
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  Speaker 3: Huntsman Center. Now, obviously the level of talent on these
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  Speaker 3: two different teams is where the analogy of operates. But
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  Speaker 3: I didn't come away from that Utah game against BYU
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  Speaker 3: thinking we'll get them next time at the Marriott Center.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, my realism proved to be correct when
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  Speaker 3: Utah made the return trip down to Provo. When BYU
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  Speaker 3: goes to Tucson, did you see enough? And you already
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  Speaker 3: mentioned you know they shot poorly from the stripe, they
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  Speaker 3: shot poorly from the field, at least their two best players.
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  Speaker 3: Did Do you look at this one and say, well,
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  Speaker 3: we'll get them on their home floor as long as
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  Speaker 3: we clean those things up.
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  Speaker 1: Did what you see last night?
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  Speaker 3: I know you're not a moral victory's guy, that's the
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  Speaker 3: correct way to be, But did you see enough there
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  Speaker 3: that you're like, I think we could split the regular
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  Speaker 3: season matchup.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, I didn't even think of it in those terms
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  Speaker 2: because at Arizona, who's the number one team in the country.
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  Speaker 2: To feel confident going into that game is almost nuts,
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  Speaker 2: even though BOI played a good home game, like you're men,
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  Speaker 2: you said, I'm more like, Okay, what does this name
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  Speaker 2: for Saturday against Kansas? And then oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: the next home game is Houston on February seventh, and oh,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, Iowa States coming in February twenty First,
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  Speaker 2: those could be other top ten teams Texas Tech on
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  Speaker 2: senior Day, perhaps freshman day for a Jigybonta, right, and
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  Speaker 2: this probably final home game, right, Like for sure, it's
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  Speaker 2: to me, it's more about that, Like I'm not even
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  Speaker 2: I'm not even worried about Arizona. Not that I'm taking
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  Speaker 2: it one game time, I'm taking it many games at
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  Speaker 2: a time. But I just think, Okay, if you learned
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  Speaker 2: some lessons here that they have play Saturday and they
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  Speaker 2: went at Kansas, you're on schedule still. I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: you wanted to be the Arizona but you probably shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have them. One team in the country undefeated. Yes, you're thirteen,
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  Speaker 2: you have aj Like a win wouldn't have been a
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  Speaker 2: massive upset. I think the line is like one and
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  Speaker 2: a half and for some people, Boy was even favored,
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  Speaker 2: but it's more like okay, because as awesome as the
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  Speaker 2: Big three are, if you always had some significant injuries
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  Speaker 2: that have affected sort of how quickly certain role players
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  Speaker 2: have been thrust into certain positions. So like No Dactin Baker,
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  Speaker 2: he would have been your sixth man. He's out for
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  Speaker 2: the year, wrecked his knee in around Thanksgiving. Nate Pickens
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  Speaker 2: was supposed to be the backup point guard. Brodi Koslowski
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  Speaker 2: was a top one hundred guy that was injured last
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  Speaker 2: year coming into the year. Didn't heal upright. He was
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be a stretch for that could rebound and
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  Speaker 2: knock down three. Without those three guys, they've really had
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  Speaker 2: to put extra weight on the bar for the Big three.
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  Speaker 2: And then Cadarn Davis just missed eighteen threes in a row.
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  Speaker 2: Then he made his last five in the second half
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  Speaker 2: that he wake up. You hope Ka Kata any game
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  Speaker 2: can be a guy that goes for fifteen and fifteen,
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  Speaker 2: and so you're really asking a lot of these three
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  Speaker 2: and even bested a lot. You should ask a lot.
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  Speaker 2: But it's been a little more and I think they're
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  Speaker 2: getting used to sort of that situation, especially in these
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  Speaker 2: games against the top tier talent like Texas Tech and
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  Speaker 2: here is that a.
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  Speaker 3: Is this the best time in history to be a
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  Speaker 3: BYU season ticket holder in their sports? Obviously the revenue
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  Speaker 3: producing sports got you already rattled through some of the
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  Speaker 3: matchups that you get at the Marriott Center this year,
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  Speaker 3: and then you know, the football schedule release shows you
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  Speaker 3: that you've got some really fun stuff happening, including a
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  Speaker 3: Notre Dame visit in week seven for the football team.
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  Speaker 2: Are you saying is it better than playing New Mexico Wyoming?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm just kidding, Yeah, for sure, man, Like, it's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: And I would argue the same for Utah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in terms of like, hey, what's ahead of us in
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  Speaker 2: the Pac twelve. That was pretty fun for a while,
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  Speaker 2: so maybe there's an argument there. But for BYU coming
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  Speaker 2: out of the Mountain West and Independence and wherever you
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  Speaker 2: guys at competitively, no question amazing. Brian Santigger said a
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  Speaker 2: million times the best time to be a Koog ever,
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, it's great. You always competing at super high level.
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  Speaker 2: They bought in, they're all in there, they're they're trying
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  Speaker 2: to compete at that level. And the hope is BUA
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  Speaker 2: can validate the investment and the great coaching and the
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  Speaker 2: culture and everything that's kind of been there, but now
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  Speaker 2: that it's the nil are and you have the right
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  Speaker 2: you have the perfect coaches for your football and basketball
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  Speaker 2: team in the world for right now, Like I literally,
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  Speaker 2: Coline is perfect for football as a member of the church,
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  Speaker 2: and Kevin Young is the greatest coach on the planet.
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  Speaker 2: You like to get who's a member of the church
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  Speaker 2: for the basketball team. They have the right people at
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  Speaker 2: the right time, and that's equaling pretty special stuff right now.
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  Speaker 2: So let's see if YOUOA can't validate that with like
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  Speaker 2: an e Lait eight in in men's basketball with a
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  Speaker 2: Big twelve title or and or college football playoffs in football,
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  Speaker 2: that is that next step for these groups.
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  Speaker 1: Jerem Jordan is our guest here a little Red and Blue.
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  Speaker 3: We are behind enemy lines talking some BYU brought to
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  Speaker 3: We haven't had you on since the schedule release, if
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  Speaker 3: my memory serves me properly, and I just alluded to
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  Speaker 3: the Notre Dame game Week seven, the rivalry game, the
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  Speaker 3: Holy War is again week ten. I spent five minutes
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  Speaker 3: ranting about how it is better placed in rivalry weekend.
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  Speaker 3: The case that the conference makes is that, no, it's
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  Speaker 3: more nationally recognized when it's not buried with all the
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  Speaker 3: other rivalry games in that final weekend of the season.
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  Speaker 2: Where do you stand, Yeah, I would love it in
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  Speaker 2: rivalry week because my personal investment is not in what
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  Speaker 2: is best for the league, what is best for audience viewership.
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  Speaker 2: It's just, you know what, you don't understand the tradition.
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  Speaker 2: You know one the league would have it's been the
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  Speaker 2: last week and it made the stakes crazy high for
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  Speaker 2: conference championships so many times. Or in two thousand when
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  Speaker 2: it's Labelle's last game and it's Ron McBride and at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the season and neither team's making a
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  Speaker 2: bowl game and it still mattered. It might have been
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  Speaker 2: might have been the biggest yet at that point, even
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  Speaker 2: though there was no postseason play involved. It just I
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  Speaker 2: would love it the last week. It's not the end
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  Speaker 2: of the world that it's November seventh, but I was
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  Speaker 2: really hoping, Hey, let's correct this, and let's play this
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  Speaker 2: the last weekend and it's gonna be awesome. And if
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  Speaker 2: it's November seventh, okay, But then part of me thinks, well,
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  Speaker 2: why not make it even earlier than to ensure that
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  Speaker 2: the weather's probably better. I don't know, but yeah, at
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  Speaker 2: you thought it's going to be a massive game November seventh.
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking on ESPN's boy schedule right now. Tickets as
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  Speaker 2: low as four ninety seven, so everyone, good luck with them.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, it's like the soccer World Cup. I was
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  Speaker 3: looking at some of those tickets and wanted to throw up.
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  Speaker 2: Bro. I thought it was gonna go to like because
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  Speaker 2: I love soccer. I'm a big soccer fan. I love
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  Speaker 2: the United States team. I love Chelsea. That's my team
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  Speaker 2: I support, as I say. But I was like, oh no,
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  Speaker 2: this isn't happening. Too much demand, Like I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to the super Bowl for the Seahawks, Like it's too expensive,
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  Speaker 2: like all this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I had that sobering realization a couple of years ago
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  Speaker 3: when the Niners were playing in Vegas or I could
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  Speaker 3: get there very cheap, I could stay there for free,
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  Speaker 3: and it still was too expensive for me to go
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  Speaker 3: in Vegas. I was like, oh, I guess I'm never
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  Speaker 3: going to the super Bowl in my lifetime.
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  Speaker 2: I think I took out a heelock, you know, to
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  Speaker 2: finish the basement. But then I was like, let's in October.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, hey, tape to my stubna old Tate
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  Speaker 2: Michael Jordan's that's let's go to Seattle and let's go
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  Speaker 2: to game one of the Mariners albs with the Tigers,
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  Speaker 2: and then the next day, let's go to the Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: Bucks game and then let's go to Game two for
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  Speaker 2: the Mariners Tigers Dale DSN. Well, I'm gonna be paying
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  Speaker 2: for that for a long time. But it was a
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  Speaker 2: core memory for my son, and I sure hope he
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  Speaker 2: appreciates that. Probably should probably shouldn't have done it, But
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  Speaker 2: it was a tatnic trip. It was so fun.
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  Speaker 1: Because does he lock interest rate? Ain't that easy? Boy?
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure, bro, he doesn't know. He doesn't know that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I didn't get the six months at point
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  Speaker 2: nine to nine percent this time? You know?
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  Speaker 3: Uh, the the Koops do have an early bye week
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  Speaker 3: week three bye week and then nine in a row,
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  Speaker 3: and included in that nine in a row, are you
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: know TCU never a slouch. Notre Dame, Arizona State Utah.
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  Speaker 3: Some people think Baylor's going to be good. We'll see.
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  Speaker 3: They had some success in the transfer portal U nine
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  Speaker 3: in a row to finish the season. I know Kilanian
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  Speaker 3: company don't ever care, but this is what we do
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  Speaker 3: as fans. Uh the schedule does it lay out neutral,
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  Speaker 3: friendly or bad for BYU?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's pretty good. I like the warm up
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  Speaker 2: of you know, Utah Tech out of the gate, you
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: jump right into. Let's be honest, this might be a
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: top two or three Big twelve game if Arizona is
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: kind of what they were last year at UYU, these
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: are gay Yeah, Week two, that's a great game in provo.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: But you always had a lot of success with Arizona
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: in provo over the years. Get hope that that's the
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: case given what Buoy got back, which is basically everybody
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: that could. I don't like G five road games. I
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: just don't see the point in playing those. I know
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: others have that opinion. I'm not making that decision, but
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: I would prefer that BUOI doesn't play a single G
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: five road game ever. Again. Sorry, Utah States at TCU, Yeah,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: it's tough, and you go back back weeks on the
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: road button bye week, so you go, okay, I always
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: stayed at home, you know, Notre Dame at home. That's
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: an important two game stretch there as well. For some reason,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: it feels like boy plays at UCF every year, even
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: though I know that's not true. Yeah, asu Ad you
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: taught you're kind of alternating. You're not on the road
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: for like three weeks or home for three weeks. Like
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: at any point, I think it's pretty bald. Pretty well, Yeah,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: I would have put you ton of different spot. I
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: think Notre Dame's in the decent spot. I would have loved,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: you know, a buy right before or after Notre Dame,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: just because I think that's You could argue that's the
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: biggest game of the year because of bui's need to
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: sort of validate its resume for the College Football Playoff,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: given that it's going to be twelve teams again. If
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: it was going to sixteen, I would feel like, Okay,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: if UI dropped two, they can still probably get in.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: But eleven and one wasn't good enough this year. And
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: that's crazy because Boi's in the big twelve. When BUI
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: was in Independence, we felt like eleven and one might
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: be good enough, and it wasn't. In the Big twelve.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: That part, honestly, it's not the league's fault, per se.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Maybe it is. Is the most disappointing thing about this
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: whole situation is, wait a minute, BUI used in a
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: power league and lost one game in the regular season
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: and it wasn't enough. And the take home is, well,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: how about you play Texas Tech tight twice and you're
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: probably in. That's the controllable part. It's not the committee.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: It's compete better in those So now BO has Notre Dame,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: which was a godsend you know, for BYU, And then
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: you know at Utah is always a massive game. It's
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: going to be a fun schedule. MBI certainly can validate
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: itself and hopefully get into the College football playoffs.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Utah and BYU skip a regular season matchup with Texas Tech.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Now they graduate a lot of guys, They're going to
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: have a bunch of Red Raiders populating NFL rosters next year.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: We know that they don't have plans of slowing down
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: in Lubbock, but do you think in the way, way
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: too early prediction that Texas Tech is going to be
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: next year what they were this past season.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: It's hard not to think they'd probably do that. But
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: what has college football shown us historically? When you think
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: you know something, you don't, you know, like Miami is
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: going on their run was crazy. Indiana's the national champ.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, we've all sort of salivated over, well, if
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Indiana can do it, then why can't such and such team?
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: And so we don't know what's going to happen, man,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: but certainly the level, it's this high chance that whoever
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: spends the most is probably going to win the most.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Texts Tech did a great job of having that group
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: come together. By the way, boy you brought in like
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: thirty transfers in twenty twenty three and they went five
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: and seven. Like, it doesn't always necessarily just work, even
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: if the talent's there. How did the team mesh? What
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: injuries happen? What's your schedule? Like, what was the weather
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: on a given day? Blah blah blah. So they did
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: a great job. I'd certainly like to think that it's
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: BOYU and Texas Tech, but who knows. Man, Like the league,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of good and very good in the
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: big twelve. Is there a great team? We thought Texas
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Tech was great and then Gorgon gave him the SmackDown.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm hoping boy can graduate from very good
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: to great, but that's something they got to prove again.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Obviously the games in the fall, those are the wins
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: that matter. But I think you know, if I'm a
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: BYU fan, I'm feeling pretty good about the transfer portal
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: wins you had. And I'm not just talking about the
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: guys coming in. Katie Lewabe is going to be a
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: heck of a player. I'm talking about the fact that
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: everyone assumed, oh, Jay Hill's going He's gonna take all
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: your best defensive players with him, and he was not
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: able to He didn't do that. And I know you
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: and I already talked about this, but you know, you've
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: had a couple of weeks now. I'm sure you've heard stories,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: and I'm sure that there's conversations around the facilities down
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: there about who got phone calls and how much did
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Michigan offer this cat and what about this guy? And
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, from what you have heard or what you know,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: how aggressive did BYU have to get to keep those
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: guys or how much of it was just let's run
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: it back and do what we were not able to
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: do this last year.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: No, that they had to be aggressive because even though
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: there's a loyalty for certain guys to BYU, to Kilanie too,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: you have to be competitive in NIL or it doesn't
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: make sense for someone to turn down say a Michigan
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: or a similar opportunity like BYU. These guys do love
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: each other and they love Kilanie and they do want
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: to run it back. But if you're not competitive, you
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: can't low all live in that situation and feel like
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: people are going to come back. That's not how this
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: works anymore. It's also interesting too, Sean, I've learned this
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: that if someone didn't get as much playing time as
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: maybe they thought that, people are reaching out to players'
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: agents and saying, hey, are they unhappy, here's what we
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: could offer them at this school right Like all that's happening.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: So for BYU, you have to be very strategic about
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: like who's getting how much playing time and why and
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: what leverage is sort of used in those situations too,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: because I know of at least one player where he
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: got nearly doublin NIL because he was being rotated with
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: someone and people were asking him, hey is agents, hey
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: is he? Is he happy or not? And then suddenly
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: there was leverage. So playing time and how you use
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: a player can be used against you in NIL to
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: leverage more for that player by that agent, even if
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: there is a loyalty to that school. So it's it's wild, man.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know how we got here. We're never going back.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: But can you imagine pro sports? I know it feels
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: like Kevin Durantz traded almost every year, but like, can
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: you imagine pro sports being this crazy? Like we don't
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: know the Lowery Markt and Keance George You're going to
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: be here next year because the might go to a
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: different day, But like what this is absolutely insane and
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: therefore it is unbelievable what BYU did in retaining as
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: many people as they lost. They lost Max Alfred to Michigan.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: He's a backup linebacker towards ACL. Best luck to Max.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: But that's not one where Boi's going, oh crap, we
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: lost Max, and I think he has I think his
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: dad's on the staff at Michigan, so there's a connection there.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable that BOI lost only one coach and one
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: player to Michigan that and retained who they did. Paron
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Bachmeyer could have got probably more money somewhere else, but
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: he got to pay race at BYU and he wants
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: the continuity and the culture and Klania and these teammates
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: and to run it back. It's it's simply amazing. Like
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I am still almost in shock what BOI pulled off.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: And they added very strategically from the portal to add
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: some really nice pieces that I think will fit well.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes me feel a little gross inside that
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: you might lose Jack Kelly and still upgrade at that position.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: That's isn't that crazy? Is a heat seeking missile. He's
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: one of the best, you know, pressure linebackers in the country.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I'm interested to see how they use them exactly the
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: fact that you get you know, you raid the old
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: PAC twelve basically for linemen, tight ends and so on,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: receiver like and there are certain guys that are unproven
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: that hope that this is their opportunity. I think we
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: saw that with Carson Ryan, who was used somewhat and
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: then he was used heavily this year and he was awesome.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: He's got the Senior Bowl this week. I'm excited to
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: see you know, Rogers, Sally Opaga and walk Walker Lyons
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: and at tight end and Poky Final from Washington, perhaps
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: be a left tackle and so on and so forth.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's exciting. Jo. I didn't just get a
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: bunch of randoms. They said we need this specific kind
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: of guy, and they got a lot of them.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Well, well, we're gonna see how it plays out. Do
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: you know when what's the day they start springball?
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Oh? Good question. Typically it's going to be in what
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: mid to late February.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they'll go till mid April ish.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Typically they end around the end of March. B what
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: it typically does.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well the.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Finals are kind of second week of April until they
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: kind of get out of the way of that.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, we'll be checking in Jerem. Thanks for your
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: time today. Appreciate you.
• 24:27
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• 24:30
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• 24:30
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• 24:35
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