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7-29-26 Hour 2 - Jerry Jones open to offers/Notre Dame adding jersey patches/Oh, By the Way... · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Motioner, Lombardy and Caine on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: Just a little bit of an accepting attitude, that would be,
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  Speaker 2: That would be, that would be helpful to this show.
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  Speaker 3: Know your audience much, Know your audience. It's a very
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  Speaker 3: simple thing. You've known me for seven and a half years.
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  Speaker 3: You know I would not be interested in you talking
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  Speaker 3: about a car guy.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know who that is, no interest.
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  Speaker 2: In Uh Okay, But when I say this, thank God Vickers, No, no,
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  Speaker 2: whatever you're gonna say, don't. I'm just gonna tell the
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  Speaker 2: listening audience and those out there who know I was
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  Speaker 2: trying to talk to Brett about Rob Pits, thank you,
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  Speaker 2: the late great Rob Pits, Rabbit Pits, and I just
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  Speaker 2: right over his head. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Would you like to hear Jerry Jones speak?
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  Speaker 2: I would love it.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 3: This isn't typically when I play at Jerry Jones' audio clip,
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  Speaker 3: it is usually something of him talking about glory holes
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  Speaker 3: or him saying I got to.
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  Speaker 4: Be absolutely out of my mind to hire this sh
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  Speaker 4: man's maker. It's not anything like that, but I do
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  Speaker 4: see and glory hopes.
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  Speaker 3: It's a different sort of side to Jerry Jones that
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  Speaker 3: I do think is interesting with where he is at
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  Speaker 3: where the Cowboys are at.
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  Speaker 5: So listen, candidly, I'd be very interested. I'd give up
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  Speaker 5: future to add substive to where we are today as
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  Speaker 5: to a player, to give you an idea about what
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  Speaker 5: I invest something substantive to get the right kind of
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  Speaker 5: deal to improve us opening day. I would I feel
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  Speaker 5: that good about this thing this year, And of course
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  Speaker 5: you know that I haven't seen this team play together
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  Speaker 5: and so but in general, looking ahead, I think we've
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  Speaker 5: got to ants to be worthy of spending some future
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  Speaker 5: if we saw an opportunity those.
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  Speaker 6: Kinds of conversations that are ongoing.
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  Speaker 4: Here's where I'm at with this.
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  Speaker 3: Last year they had the big splash move of they
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  Speaker 3: traded away one of the best players in the league
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  Speaker 3: in Mike Parsons or I'm sorry, Michael Arshin is Jerry Jones.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't mean this to sound like crass. Does
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  Speaker 3: he see the light at the end of the tunnel
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  Speaker 3: and he's like, dude, I got it. If I'm trying
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  Speaker 3: to win again, like I'm not, this isn't even a joke.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, does he see the light at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the tunnel? Like, if I'm gonna win, it's
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  Speaker 3: gotta be you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, I've said this before, Brett, and I'm not I'm
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  Speaker 2: not trying to be crass either. Let me look at
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  Speaker 2: the exact.
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  Speaker 7: And while you Brett, at the end of that clip,
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  Speaker 7: Jerry Jones said he spoke with a different team yesterday,
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  Speaker 7: like he's actively talking about this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe it's well, maybe he's eighty three years old. Incidentally,
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  Speaker 2: a hurt raj and coach going on about Vita Vea
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  Speaker 2: all morning long. You had a Vita Well, if you
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  Speaker 2: feel like you can already replace JFM, then you're not
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  Speaker 2: going to go out and break the bank for Vita Vea.
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  Speaker 2: That'd be beside the point. But he's eighty three years old,
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  Speaker 2: and here's the bottom line, his biological clock is a tickt.
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  Speaker 2: I hope Jerry Jones has got twenty more years on
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  Speaker 2: him at least. I mean I hope that.
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  Speaker 6: Like, Yeah, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 2: I love Jerry mud Take.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing I would want more than one hundred and
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  Speaker 3: four year old Jerry Jones still doing these press conferences
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  Speaker 3: a thousand percent.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying that, Yeah, the time, time is of
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  Speaker 2: the essence for him and for the Dallas Cowboys if
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  Speaker 2: he wants to win again. It's been over thirty years,
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  Speaker 2: and he's probably like, hey man, a lot of it
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  Speaker 2: has to do with himself and him. But I'm saying
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  Speaker 2: bunning in and so on.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, I haven't we learned in pro sports though,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, we have some cases in point and everything
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  Speaker 6: we do, everything we talk about, is about achieving the
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  Speaker 6: ultimate goal of a championship, right everything? Have we only
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  Speaker 6: learned how hard it is to do that hard? I mean,
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  Speaker 6: look at the Knicks. Look at how long it took
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  Speaker 6: between championships for one of the featured teams, the biggest
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  Speaker 6: market in the NBA. Look at how long it took.
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  Speaker 6: Look at how long it's been for the Dallas Cowboys,
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  Speaker 6: the number one popular team in the NFL. Look how
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  Speaker 6: long between Super Bowls. How difficult it is to win
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  Speaker 6: a championship.
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  Speaker 2: It's ridiculously hard.
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  Speaker 3: Well, here's my question, though, if you're a Cowboys fan,
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  Speaker 3: if what we're saying is true, Mosher, that maybe he's
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  Speaker 3: willing to forsake the future because.
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  Speaker 4: We don't know how much more future there is in life.
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  Speaker 2: What's your team operating that way?
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  Speaker 3: You want your guy like sitting in a spot that
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  Speaker 3: Jerry Jones is like, even though it might be a
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  Speaker 3: little bit selfish in nature of like, I just I
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  Speaker 3: want one more, just for myself.
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  Speaker 2: I want I would want my team to do that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: let's try to win. Let's go for it. Now.
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  Speaker 3: The question is do you have the team? The Rams
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  Speaker 3: pushed their chips to the middle of the table and said,
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  Speaker 3: damn the picks. I'm getting Miles Garrett, Damn the picks.
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  Speaker 3: I'm getting Trent McDuffie. But you looked at the Rams,
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  Speaker 3: You're like, well, that makes sense. You're you're right on
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  Speaker 3: the doorstep. It would have been there last year.
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  Speaker 2: But they're also with Matt Stafford, who's still phenomenal at
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  Speaker 2: his advanced age. I mean, there's what, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what they are. Their defense has been crappy, yeah, for
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  Speaker 2: the last decade, so I don't know exactly what they are.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, if i'm a if I'm a fan of
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  Speaker 2: that team, and my owner says, hey, I think it's
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  Speaker 2: about Tommy put the pedal to the medal. Here for
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  Speaker 2: the now as opposed to the future, because I to
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  Speaker 2: you Jerry Jones wants to leave a legacy for his
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  Speaker 2: son Steven, but he ain't gonna be able to enjoy
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  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl if he's if he's if he's sleeping.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 6: I think we're watching it unfold. I think this Tom
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  Speaker 6: Dundan guy and the way he cuts all costs and
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  Speaker 6: still won a Stanley Cup championship goes to prove there
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  Speaker 6: are other ways to skin that cat, and it just
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  Speaker 6: goes to prove how lucky sometimes you have to be. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I mean luck plays luck, so vic I can't say
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  Speaker 6: how much of the Carolina Hurricanes run was luck?
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  Speaker 2: What percentage? What luck does play a part?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, can you look at the way he operates
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  Speaker 6: and say that is the best way to operate a team?
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  Speaker 6: It's his way and it worked. Why wouldn't he try
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  Speaker 6: that again in the NBA or at another level?
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  Speaker 4: M Yeah, I mean pose?
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  Speaker 2: Can I can I stay in a football subject real quick?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I was reading the article. Imagine being an Atlanta Falcons fan.
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  Speaker 2: What is it with all these guys, especially these quarterbacks
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  Speaker 2: showing up for camp with injuries?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, because Trevor Simeon just got cut for
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  Speaker 6: a non football related injury.
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  Speaker 2: But they had to sign Cooper Rush did the Atlanta
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  Speaker 2: Falcons just to just to have a live body that
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  Speaker 2: can throw a football. Tua is out with what's called
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  Speaker 2: a quote flare up, got a back. Guess who else
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  Speaker 2: is out?
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  Speaker 4: Pennix?
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  Speaker 2: Michael Pennis, You're still out? I mean, and then they
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  Speaker 2: cut te rev for a quote non football injury designation.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they look. I don't if I'm the fan
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  Speaker 2: of that team and I'm sitting there, I'm going, hey, man,
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  Speaker 2: my quarterbacks are all showing up and they're all blown
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  Speaker 2: up before we even have one day of training camp. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I would love to hear that would just I mean,
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  Speaker 2: because these are these are habitual injuries, Vick. I mean
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  Speaker 2: to his jacked. Michael Pennick's junior's knees were sawdust when
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  Speaker 2: they drafted him. He's jacked. Can you imagine being a
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  Speaker 2: fan of that team and going, Stane, why don't we
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  Speaker 2: still have Kirk Cousins? What the hell are we doing here?
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  Speaker 6: What do you think Trivor Simeon's non football related injury was?
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  Speaker 6: What if it was, Hey, I was playing dunk hoop.
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  Speaker 6: Just happened.
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  Speaker 2: Who don't play dunk hoop?
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  Speaker 4: There was just a Jonathan Grenard I believe.
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  Speaker 3: Is he Minnesota? I think he's Minnesota. Just signed a
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  Speaker 3: big contract. Well he is on the pup list because
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  Speaker 3: he was just working out, I guess at his house
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  Speaker 3: and suffered a peck injury. Now, if I was a player,
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  Speaker 3: you bet you're asked. I don't care what my injury is.
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  Speaker 3: I did that working out.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what the real story is.
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  Speaker 3: If I look mos, if I got drunk at a
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  Speaker 3: beer fest and veil and I decided I wanted to
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  Speaker 3: raise one of my friends went up a hill and
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  Speaker 3: I pulled my hamster ring.
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  Speaker 4: I was on the squad rack.
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  Speaker 2: Right, That's what happened. By the way Grenard played for
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  Speaker 2: he placed with the Eagles. Now Eagles, Now that's right,
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, he's yeah. I wasn't horsing around with a
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  Speaker 2: dog in the background.
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  Speaker 3: No, No, I was bench pressing three bills, trying to
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  Speaker 3: get ready for you. Can I just ask one question.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I saw this yesterday, Dan Patrick
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  Speaker 3: made what I think is a pretty large allegation.
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  Speaker 6: You see what he did yesterday, you know what, Dan's
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  Speaker 6: letting it all lose because he's retiring soon. He's made
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  Speaker 6: it know he's going to retire soon, so he's gonna
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  Speaker 6: say whatever the hell he wants. Beware of the old
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  Speaker 6: dude who's about to hang it up.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see what he said? What he said?
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  Speaker 4: He is right about this.
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  Speaker 3: How is it possible in today's media landscape, did Kyle
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  Speaker 3: Shanahan suffers a head on collision? Which Kyle Shanahan came
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  Speaker 3: out and said, I want to clarify something. I was
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  Speaker 3: at fault in this accident because the police report originally
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  Speaker 3: had the woman who was.
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  Speaker 4: In the other car.
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  Speaker 3: He goes, I dropped my phone between the seats, wasn't looking,
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  Speaker 3: I swerved into the other lane, and that's how the
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  Speaker 3: accident happened. But Dan Patrick said, how does a major
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  Speaker 3: NFL head coach have something like this happened and for
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  Speaker 3: two weeks it's not reported. And he's alleging that now
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  Speaker 3: that ESPN is in a partnership with the NFL, with
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  Speaker 3: the NFL network and obviously the right steals and stuff
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  Speaker 3: that they have, that they sat on the story.
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  Speaker 2: Now I don't know why. Well, how about somebody from
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  Speaker 2: the San Francisco Chronicle. But that's how about somebody from.
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  Speaker 3: Is there any chance, honestly, if there's any chance, if
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  Speaker 3: in that in that accident, if that was Sean Payton,
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  Speaker 3: that we wouldn't know about it for two weeks?
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  Speaker 6: I think a chance.
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  Speaker 2: I guess there's a chance. I think we would know
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  Speaker 2: about it. Though how do you know?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, nothing seems to fall through the crack leg.
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  Speaker 3: You have people whose jobs are going to look at police.
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  Speaker 2: But I'll tell you why.
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  Speaker 6: I have the answer for you. Okay, I have the
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  Speaker 6: answer for it. There aren't as many loyal beat writers
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  Speaker 6: and people assigned to those jobs like there used to be.
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  Speaker 6: There are This used to be hell. This used to
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  Speaker 6: be a two newspaper town with two three beat writers
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  Speaker 6: on each side hammering each other, going competitive neck to neck.
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  Speaker 6: There used to be four television networks going at it
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  Speaker 6: trying to get every story that's been minimized. But it's
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  Speaker 6: not what it.
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  Speaker 2: Used to be.
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  Speaker 3: We knew when Melvin Gordon was going like seventy miles
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  Speaker 3: an hour on spear one day.
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  Speaker 4: We knew it the day afterwards. You're talking about it.
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  Speaker 3: NFL head coach who suffered multiple broken ribs a broken nose,
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  Speaker 3: stitches in his face, a broken hand, not only had
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  Speaker 3: a police report, had to go to the hospital.
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  Speaker 4: How does that story not come out?
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  Speaker 6: But are there stories that happen here that don't come.
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  Speaker 2: Out like like that? Yeah, not like that, not like that.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe not of that nature.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe Sean Paige was it was in a head on crash,
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  Speaker 2: we'd know about it. Yeah, almost immediately.
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  Speaker 6: I think it happens a lot more than you think.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe. Maybe.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I know back in the day, college football programs
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  Speaker 3: covered up a lot of different stories, a lot of them,
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  Speaker 3: I know that, and they kind of had media members
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  Speaker 3: by the coyonnes because if you were the only thing
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  Speaker 3: in town and you threatened you report this story, there's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be some repercussions.
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  Speaker 4: People were very hesitant to do that.
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  Speaker 3: But I think a head on car crash with a
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  Speaker 3: head coach who has made multiple Super Bowls would be
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  Speaker 3: like immediately figured out.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe I'm wrong, I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, I'll just kid you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not buying, by the way, I'm not buying what
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  Speaker 4: Dan Patrick is say.
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  Speaker 6: Can I give you just a personal example of sitting
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  Speaker 6: on a story now going with it? Okay, happens all
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  Speaker 6: the time, used to could. Years ago, when I was
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  Speaker 6: working at a different station, I got word that von
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  Speaker 6: Miller failed a drug test, and you remember that whole episode,
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  Speaker 6: most right, of course. And I was going to report
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  Speaker 6: back then.
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  Speaker 2: When I was on the news, that's that's what that's
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  Speaker 2: when d mac was in his yeah splendor.
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  Speaker 6: I was going to report it. I did not report it.
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  Speaker 6: I called the powers that be with the Broncos and
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  Speaker 6: I said, hey, here's the story, man, and I just
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  Speaker 6: give us a couple of days. I'll get back to
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  Speaker 6: you with assurances. Don't go with it right now now.
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  Speaker 6: The reason I didn't report it at that time is
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  Speaker 6: because I was waiting for them to get back to
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  Speaker 6: me to give me their side of the story. Right
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  Speaker 6: I didn't, but I sat on the story. I had
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  Speaker 6: enough sources to go with it. I chose not to.
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  Speaker 6: What do I have to gain. I'm the only one
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  Speaker 6: who had it at the time. What do I have
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  Speaker 6: to really gain from the story right now? I'm gonna wait.
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  Speaker 2: So there are.
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  Speaker 6: Stories that people have that they sit on for weeks
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  Speaker 6: until it's time. I'm not saying that's right or wrong.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not trying to give you an ethics lesson here.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not trying to give you any of that. I'm
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  Speaker 6: just telling you what happens all of the time.
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  Speaker 3: For the record, VIC, I think in that case, that
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  Speaker 3: is an admirable thing to do. I'm more shocked that
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  Speaker 3: today somebody wouldn't be like I saw Kyle Shanahan in
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  Speaker 3: the hospital with stitches in his face.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: That's I'm more surprised that just nobody did anything.
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  Speaker 2: Well, bottom line and all this. For me, I'm glad
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  Speaker 2: that it seems like everybody's going to be okay.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like it.
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  Speaker 2: And I love the fact that he came out and said, look,
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  Speaker 2: I hit her. I don't know why it's reported the
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  Speaker 2: other way. The police report doesn't say that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he took full ownership, full accountability. I'm sure it's scary
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  Speaker 2: as hell, but I like the fact that he owned
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  Speaker 2: up to it. He's not trying to hide from anything. Look,
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  Speaker 2: he's not gonna come out, by the way from the
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  Speaker 2: hospital go uh yeah uh KNBC San Francisco, Yes, Kyle Shanahan,
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  Speaker 2: I'm in the hospital. I got in a head on.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's not gonna do that. It's up to
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  Speaker 2: other people to do that. But I love the fact
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  Speaker 2: that he owned it here with all of the media
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  Speaker 2: there and laid it out the way it went down.
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  Speaker 6: There's a story right now that I know everyone is
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  Speaker 6: sitting on.
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  Speaker 4: I don't like that you said that.
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  Speaker 6: I know for a fact and for good reason.
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  Speaker 2: All right, hang on me.
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  Speaker 6: Think you can think whatever you want. You'll never get
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  Speaker 6: the story. But I'm just telling you, you guys make
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  Speaker 6: it soend like this doesn't happen all the time. This
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  Speaker 6: happened years ago, it happens today. It happens all the time.
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  Speaker 6: There's different reasons that different different things that take place
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  Speaker 6: to sit on. I'm not saying it's right. I'm telling
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  Speaker 6: you it happens.
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  Speaker 2: Does this have to do with the Tree Forum? No?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, am I getting a raise. Somebody's sitting on that story. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: when we return, I have a comparison I would like
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  Speaker 3: to make and it's not It's not a fun one,
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  Speaker 3: but it's one I stumbled across yesterday. We'll get to
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  Speaker 3: it next, all right, So.
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  Speaker 4: Give me just a moment.
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  Speaker 3: To talk about the career of Blake Griffin because I
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  Speaker 3: will tie this into something else.
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  Speaker 2: How are okay, Vick? Try to think how Brett Kane
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  Speaker 2: and his limited ability is going to tie in the
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  Speaker 2: career of Blake Griffin to anything that you and I
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  Speaker 2: or the listening audience cares about. I'm very curious.
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  Speaker 6: Lobb cities Blake Griffin.
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  Speaker 3: Lobb Citi's Blake Griffin super athlete, Colahoma's Blake Griffin super.
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  Speaker 4: Athlete out of Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 3: He comes in the NFL, he bursts on the scene
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  Speaker 3: and the Clippers have this fun thing.
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  Speaker 6: You mean the NBA. What did I say, NFL?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the NBA. Sorry.
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  Speaker 6: You know, he had a brother too that played with
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  Speaker 6: the medal.
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  Speaker 4: Taylor I think right, something like that.
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  Speaker 6: Whatever happened to him.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: He wasn't very good, not as good as him anyway.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: But he enters the league, goes to the Clippers.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Clippers have this fun team of him and Chris Paul
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: and DeAndre Jordan and this Lob city thing's going on.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: But his game is predicated on the idea that I
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: jump higher, I am bigger and more physical and more
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: athletic than you.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: And this exists for I don't know.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Six seven years as Blake Griffin is one of the
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: better players in the league. Blake Griffin then in two
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: thousand and seventeen, is traded mid season to the Detroit
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: Pistons because the Clippers are looking at him saying, gosh,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: you're getting hurt a little bit. I think this is
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: athleticism has taken it toll, We'll trade you to Detroit.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: He goes to the Pistons.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: He has a season in which he plays seventy five
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: games and averages twenty five points a night, as an
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: All Star and an All NBA Third team player. He's
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: twenty nine years old. Then he turned thirty and he
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: played in eighteen games, and then he was thirty one
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: and he was traded to Brooklyn mid season in a
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: season which he played forty six and then at thirty two,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: he played fifty six games with Brooklyn, and at thirty
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: three he played forty one for Boston before never played again.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Done at the age of thirty three. I am very
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: concerned that this is the path that Aaron Gordon is
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: on because his game has been very similar.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: A lot of athleticism, a lot of.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Jumping high, falling down hard, a lot of bully ball,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: a lot of physicality.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: How does that age that.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Is an excellent tie in, by.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: The way, is thirty years old and played thirty six
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: games last season.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: Here's the difference I think between the two of those
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: players that you just brought up. Aaron has proven he
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: could do more than dunk and jump.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: True.
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: True, he hit ten threes to start the season in
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: the game last year.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: It's more to be about the health factor than it is.
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: I get her stuff, but both are intertwined. I mean,
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: being athletic and healthy. If you're not athletic anymore, if
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: you're not healthy, you can't be athletic. But there are
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: other things you can do to contribute, and I think
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: Aaron has proven he can do some other things. He's
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: developed a three point shot out of nowhere. Griffin never
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: did that.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: I want to see something here real quick about Blake.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: To me, this is this is less about the skill set,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: because I fully agree with you Vic that he is
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: overall a more accomplished player, especially you know, especially on
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: the offensive side. But it's how much of a toll
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: has his body taken on the style of play that
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: he had early And.
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: It's fair to think that way. By the way, Eric
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: Gordon turned off his Instagram account, he was all in.
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: I was watching him. He had a bunch of posts
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: yesterday on his trip to Italy, and he went to
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: Europe and did a lot of stuff and then boom,
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: it just went away. Maybe he's in that mode now,
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: maybe it's like work mode.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking at the injuries to Blake Griffin. These
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: all look very much like a guy who leaps high
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: and comes down hard. Okay, AG has been dealing with
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: the hammy, right, that's been the big problem. Yeah, but
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: get this with Griffin left kneecap fracture, left meniscus tear,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: right elbow infections, brusidas man quad tendon, tear, right tote,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: ligament tare two left knee, multiple left knee surgeries. That
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: is completely that is that is a leaper, a coming
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: down hard on the quarter, falling down, colliding kind of.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: But and you're talking about repetition multiple multiple multiple times
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: in the year, multiple time. So all of that accumulation
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: on the joints and the ligaments and tendons and whatnot,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: that's really that's that's really hurt him. Obviously, his career
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: is over with AG. It feels like his body, the
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: connectivity is still good. That's stupid hamstring.
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: Hell, his body should be great having sat that long, right,
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: not having played a ton of games.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: We said that last year, We said that last year,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: and then we kind of got the same thing. I
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: mean again, it's it's just difficult because I do think
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: when even if you have, as I mentioned and as
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Vic mentioned, a wider skill set than that of a
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Blake Griffin, you know, Blake is more like would you say, Yiannis,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: which is I'm just my game is I run at
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: you and I try and do stuff over the top.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to shoot that sort of thing.
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and also dependent on others for him to get
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: his buckets.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: But I think it takes a toll on your body
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: from playing the way that those guys play, which is
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: brute physicality and athleticism and jumping high and falling hard
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: and all that stuff. It's the concern that I have
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: is and what a stem from is in the appetizer.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Somebody goes, we're talking about taking a step back or
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: whatever as a team. They said they won't take a
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: step back if AG's healthy, and they go, yeah, I know,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: but is that even possible anymore, you know what I mean?
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Or are you always just gonna have to factor in
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: that even if AG does play, when it comes to
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: postseason time. Are you getting eighty percent? Are you getting
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: eighty five? Are you getting seventy? Are you know that
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: sort of thing, And that's what's difficult. And if you remember,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: like Blake Griffin was one of the best players in
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: the league, perennial All Star and then role player and
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: gone in three years that quickly. I'm not saying that'll
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: happen with ag but it's just something that I looked
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: up because I'm like, look, two guys who are big
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: time dunkers, seen as two of the top ten dunkers
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: probably in the history of the league. It takes a toll,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: that's all. And it's how reliable is that when the
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: stuff matters most. And that's all being factored in on
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: top of the fact that you're on the hook for
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: ag up for three more years because he's not declining
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: that player option. That player option is worth what thirty
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: six thirty seven dollars?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: No way, it's it's I don't care where well, I
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: guess we will see where his body is at the time.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I would, of course, I would not decline that bick.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Would you ever think about declining that player option?
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: When is this player option?
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Three years, three years, two more seasons than the player option.
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: If you're a g would you decline it? Talk to
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: me in three years.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: So AG's making never, He's never. Here's here's the point, Vic.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: This year he makes thirty four, next year he makes
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: thirty six, and change the year after that. The player
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: option year is thirty nine million dollars. He's not getting
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: thirty nine million on the open market by then, not happening.
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: That's all.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Moser.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: You said it was going to be dumb. When I
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: said it was it dumb.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: No, it wasn't dumb. I see where your I see
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: where your brain went. I see how you're trying to
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: connect it to I just think that they're they're different players,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: and I don't think AG's injuries are the result of
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: multiple impacts over multiple years like it was for Blake Griffin. Yeah,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: at least I hope not. I mean, maybe maybe the
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: hammies are just now chronic because because of those, you know,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: the the leaping ability and so on in the past,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: the jumping in the air, not necessarily the joints in
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: the connective tissue.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: But that's what a hammy. Makes a great point. Maybe
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: the Nuggets copy what Oka c does with the Caruso.
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: They keep him on the bench and really don't unleash
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: him until the playoffs. Maybe that's a way to manage
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: a g Maybe that's why they went and got Brazil
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: and and these other four. Maybe that that's why they're
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: so forward heavy. You don't play him those those big
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: minutes during the regular season.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: He played in thirty six games last year. I'm making
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: to hold him back.
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: I understand that's because he got injured. I'm saying, you
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: hold him back per game.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know, doesn't it work the same way. I mean,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: he's still he set out more than half the year.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and sometimes those soft tissue injuries they happened at
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: just moments that you would never expect.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know all about that.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: I mean, hell, I've reached over and grabbed my wallet
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: in my car and pulled my back.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Did you got it?
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: You see kinetics got all hell?
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: You healed up, ready to go? You makes your Uh,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: he's got He's got multiple sounds that he makes that
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: it just sounds. Okay, one is the he just hurt
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: his back. What's that sound? And he's got the This
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: is these people, This is what these people say a.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Couple of things on the college football front.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: And you know those people, right, Yeah, everybody knows those people.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys saw Brett Bielima, Illinois
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: head coach. He was asked about the SEC and his
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: quote was, they want to live in two thousand and
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: five forever. And I'm kind of in on this Big
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: ten SEC battle because I think the Big ten's got
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: ammunition called national championship trophies to play with over the.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: Last three years.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: He said, the SEC wants to live in two thousand
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: and five forever.
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he coached in the SEC.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: That's interesting, all right, Yeah, that's interesting.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: Here's the other thing, VIC, your boys got into the
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: jersey patch game. Notre Dame.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: They have so far as their official jersey patch sponsor,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: according to Ross Dellinger, and it is in the average
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: of eighteen to twenty million dollars annually.
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: Think about this, Think about how it's hard for me
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: to criticize the Big twelve for taking the money, but
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: the markets weren't set yet when they took the money.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: Notre Dame alone is making more or just as much
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: on a jersey patch as the entire Big Twelve conference.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, didn't Michigan just come up with a sponsor
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: as well. It's all of a sudden, Ohio State announces it,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, all these teams are now saying, yeah,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: we're we're with this and we're with that.
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: And so I repeat when we talk about brands and
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: all this stuff, because everybody likes to talk about brands,
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: I repeat myself. Notre Dame on a Jersey Patch is
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: making just as much as the entire Big Twelve conference.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: So this is really funny meme.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: If you guys have seen the flex seal one right
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: with the guys standing in front of the huge water
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: tank with a whole I think I think that's more
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: of the college football's current problems. He slaps the flex
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: seal on and it says Jersey Patch sponsors.
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: This is serious. Let me tell you, though, let me
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: tell you why why it's so inequitable in college football,
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: and how it's silly, it's stupid, it's becoming. So there's
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: gonna be a select number of teams that are gonna
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: warrant those kind of numbers, that are gonna get those
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: kind of numbers. Notre Dame Texas is going.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: To do it.
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: Ohio States already got it, Michigan's gonna get it, and
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: then there's everybody else. And in the era of NIL
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: and in an era where in administration the actual university
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: is helping fund the athletic department. The two used to
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: be separate but equal. The two used to be Hey,
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: the athletic department funds itself. That's not the case anymore,
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: not in this era. So how are these other teams
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: supposed to compete?
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: How?
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: How you know?
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: When you ask the question, though, Vick, you could have
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: had the same discussion in nineteen ninety five.
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: Understood, But in nineteen ninety five, the corporate money wasn't
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: what it is today.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: No, But but I would tell you this I have
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: and I mean this sincerely. I'm not saying that this
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: is like even forget perfect. I'm not even saying it's
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: a good system. But the problems that people have with
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: college football, to me, lie way more in unlimited transfers
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: than it does NIL money, because NAL money is just
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: an extension of what we already had. That is that
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: you know, Bama and Nebraska and Michigan and Ohio State
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: and Penn State, they already had gigantic donors that in
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: the nineteen nineties could pay more than.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: You know, a lower end school. That's true. That's not different.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: That's not different.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: What's different is you can poach those guys from a
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: team every year, and guys can play for four teams
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: in four different years.
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: When that's instructing a roster. Though, I'm constructing aster from
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: your transfer portal transfer and I'm sitting on twenty million dollars,
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: you're sitting on a million. Who's going to win that recruiting.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: And and and it's even inside the same conference.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Give me try try two different teams, then get it
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: instead of money, give me teams.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, how about this, let's go just to the big
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: ten Ohio State or Oregon. Okay, yeah, and Perdue exact
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: same it's been for thirty years. The gap, the chasm,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: exact same. No, No, but there's still a chasm. But
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: twenty million, how much? It's no different. Boiler Makers wanted
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: to sell their jersey. Are they getting Notre Dame kind
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: of money? Are they getting Ohio State?
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: The gap in competitive edge?
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: You got you got your head in the hand. What
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: do you mean you got your head in this hand?
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: The chasm is becoming wider and wider every year. You've
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: just not seen it. You refuse to admit it, you
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: refuse technology.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: That's exactly one. There is a there's a chasm, there
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: always has been a chasm.
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: But not getting wider, getting wider.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, but inside, Indiana's made a jump.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: In Texas Tech has made a jump.
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: And the team why they make a jump because they
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: got money in case, So where the money come from?
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Mark Cuban and all these donors.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Organ Organ got good when Nike got involved. Yes, and
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Organ wasn't that, But Oregon wasn't Oregon before they got
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Phil Knight money. So you just said money is a factor, then, yeah,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: but it's twenty million, one million again, let me Purdue
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: was do the math for him most you you aren't
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: acknowledging this at all.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: We'duce we're purdueing Ohio State. Ever in the same realm
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: of college football.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: No, but now it's even bigger now.
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: When you were allowed as a school now to go
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: out and do your own deal. Jersey patches were never allowed.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Bret. Oh, of course. Yeah, let me try to explain
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: one more time.
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: I don't think he understands me.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: I don't think he does you know what you are?
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Vic right, You're a big, giant, redheaded ostrich right hand.
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: You want you want to be. You think that nothing changes,
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: that it's all cyclical. I'm telling you no. College football
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: today is at a place where the haves and the
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: have nots could not be further apart than the ever it's.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Bigger than And you're right, and they have been far
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: apart in the past, but even in the seventies and
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: in the eighties and the nineties, but not like this.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Let me give you one more example, Brett. Let's let's
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: take the blue bloods in the SEC. Georgia, Texas, Bama. Yeah,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: these blue bloods, and then let's go all the way down.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: And I hate Brandon's gonna be hurt when I say this,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: but I'm not wrong. The gap even inside the SEC
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: between those blue bloods, with the money that will go
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: on these jerseys and so on and so forth. Yet
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: there's always been that chasm, but now it's even bigger.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: The Arkansas friggin Pigs, the Razorbacks. Dude, you think they're
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: gonna get twenty million a year for their jerseys? Not
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: a chip? I don't even I don't care if you're
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: in the SEC. Not a chance in heck are they
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: gonna get that? Not a chance. Mississippi State Bulldogs, they
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: may be in the same conference as as Texas and
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Alabama and Georgia, but they ain't swimming in the same
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: money pond, I promise you.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: But I'm talking pure results here results. Illinois was two
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: and ten in the twenty twelve season, Ohio State was
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: twelve and zero. Last year, Ohio State was twelve and
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: two and Illinois was nine and four.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Because you can get some player, because the transfer portal.
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: Has helped these no, no, no, I know, I know
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: what you're saying. I know what you're saying. I feel
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: you and I've always been separated.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: It's all I'm saying. They always been, they have.
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: Here's a difference. Here's the difference. I know what you're saying.
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: You can have those years or in Illinois in Ohio
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: State will be equals.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: I acknowledge it. You will have the blips. I'm talking
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: about long term success.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about viable, longevity.
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: Dynastic I'm one of the halves you're having success. That's
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: that's my reference point, my reference point, because what the
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: transfer portal has done. Now, it's allowed.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: These schools to hit blips.
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: Oh god, look, oh my god, Tulsa's good, Oh, oh
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: my gosh, North Texas is good, Oh my gosh. And
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: then the next year they'll be bad again. That's what
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: the Portal's allowed. I'm talking about sustainability. Sustainability that is
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: getting more have and have nots than ever.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: That I agree with you on the sustainability front. It
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: is much easier to lessen that gap by limiting transfers
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: than it has to do with money right now, because
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: the money is only the major player because you're allowed
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: to buy whoever you want every single year. If somebody
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: transfers wants and you say that's it, well there's no
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: more going out. You know, a big time quarterback can't
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: play for three different schools in his career because somebody
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: offered him more money. Carson Beck would have never left
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Georgia if the transfer rules were in place like that,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: because it's like, what's the point.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I played golf with a big time ad recently. Well,
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: the reason I have to bring it up I got
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: a reference, so I'm not gonn tell you who it is.
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: But he's worked for at least five different schools, big time, big,
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: big schools, and he's no longer in the game. And
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: I said, so, what is this era done? What is
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: it that we don't see? What is it good?
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Is it bad?
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: He says, here's the deal. College sports is trying to
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: bring corporate America into the fold. They're trying to bring
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: businesses into the fold. Well, here's what business can't understand.
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: And businessmen just can't come to terms with this. You're
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: trying to finance athletic programs where ten of the sports
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: lose money. Business People are used to making money, not
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: losing money, so they can't come to terms with Wait,
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna give you this money, but ten of your
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: twelve sports are gonna actually be in the in the read,
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: they can't come to terms. And when they do come
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: to terms with that is when they say, oh we're out.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, that's sort of gain.
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: So every school in America has an athletic program, and
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: those athletic programs are they're to fund these athletes. Most
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: of those programs lose money. It's inherent in the program.
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: They lose money. So you want me to fund something
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: that loses money? And I'm a business person.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Why would I do that?
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: Well, we can get back to this in a bit.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Three oh three, five oh four oh nine two five
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  Speaker 3: got oh, by the way, next, Oh, by the way,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: stories around sports in the world we feel like you
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: should be aware of.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Contrary to popular belief. I'll start out, contrary to popular belief.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I read, I can read, I like to read, I
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: do read. And I was reading of an article the
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: ten burning questions of NFL camps this year.
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: Was it read to you or did you actually read it?
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I got it on audiobook. But okay, you know put
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: in the tape deck in a car?
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Sure?
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Uh do you recall who the offense? And I don't
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: want to be accused of this Chargers stuff, but I'm
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: telling you the Chargers still scare me inside the AFC West,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: and they should just like the Chiefs are scaring me
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: if they're if mahomes is back in their back to
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: being themselves. You realize who the offensive coordinator is now
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: for the La Charges of Anaheim.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Right, Mike McDaniel.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel. Well, apparently there's a lot of scuttle but
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: going around that McDaniel and Herbert along with Omar and
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Hampton that this is going to be dinamic, and I'm
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: just saying, does that does that when you hear this
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: little scuttle but these rumors and does that do anything
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: for you?
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: Death taxes? Moser is scaring the Chargers.
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: It's it's unfathomable.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I said, I don't want to be accused of this anymore.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I have to bring in.
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: I've been doing the show with Moser now for almost
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: a decade, and you've been with us for what five
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: six years?
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: I don't even know how long you've been seven.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: And a half long time.
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: It is incredible to me. I've never seen a fish
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: go hook line and sinker after something time and time
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: again like Moja does the Chargers?
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: Have you, guys, seen how good Ben Simmons three balls
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: looking these days?
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable to me.
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: Did you see every year every year, it's the same
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: narrative for every single year.
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: Did you see how much weight Zion's lost?
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Dude?
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: He's looking lean right now, guys.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: But the prediction is that Herbert and Hampton are gonna
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: go buck wild this year because McDaniel is running well,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: they probably will like they're a good team. Yeah, I
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: don't know. I just I fear that. I'm like, I'm like,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: but what do you think?
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: What do you think is different?
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Here's here's the thing, Like, you don't do this with
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: the Chiefs every year because we just know the Chiefs
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: are gonna be good and they're gonna be a problem.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: What is it about Chargers that has you think?
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Because I think the talent there is too good to
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: blank it up every single year. One year they're going
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: to put it.
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: Guess what they've done. They've blanked it up every single year.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Have but it but a lot of it. I mean again,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: the injury factor for this, for that franchise is sickening.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Oh by the way, can I give you a quote
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: from one Plexico burws You guys, remember Plexical good wide
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: er see.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: You blew his own leg off?
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Yes, Oh okay, here's the quote from Plexico. They're both
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: kind of similar because when I walked into prison on
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: my first day, I was like, damn man, you're a
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: bleeping loser. And I had the same damn feeling every
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: day I walked through the door with the Jets.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: God, he just compared.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: He said the Jets was like being in prison, because every.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Day I thought to myself when I walked around, I'm
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: a bleeping loser.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Wow, I mean.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: That's gotta be as much.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: This is somebody who has been to prison, by the way,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: federal prison, and was just like, yeah.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: It's pretty much the same thing.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: You know, A fewer sentenced to two years in prison
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: or two years with the New York chants, what do
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: you cheerse.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: I would bet that if you put Jets fans on
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: a light detector test and gave them a nice cold
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: beer and unlett them talk, they would probably admit that
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: being a Jets fan feels like being in prison. They'd
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: probably admit that.
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: Oh, by the way, in light of what's taking place
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: in college football with these jersey patches, and we mentioned
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: how the Big Twelve was assigned the Monster Energy drink title, right,
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: what do you think is going on in Big twelve
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: headquarters right now? Do you think they've seen these other
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: schools get all this money? Can they do a.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Patch each school on like.
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: The other side of the of the jersey for their
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: own separate schools? Would they be allowed to do that?
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Are they just sponsored?
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: I think it's Monster Big Twelve Conference?
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, are still a thing? Maybe I'm wrong.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: Hold on, I think it's a jersey patch for the
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: entire conference. They have to wear these.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, the Big Twelve really screwed up. And again
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: the market, the market wasn't said. If you're a monster,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: you're probably thinking, damn, we did a good deal. You're
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: high five and in the corporate office, if you're in
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: the Big twelve offices and they're you're going, all right,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: who's getting fired?
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: Here it is Big twelve Monster jersey patches teams will
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: wear in football and men's and women's.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Basketball, exclusive.
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: Court logos, court logos too.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Wow. So then monsters getting a great Now that we
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: see this monster's getting a great.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: So each team's getting a little over a million bucks
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: for this yes a year. Yes, as opposed to Ohio
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: State Notre Dame that are making eighteen million dollars a year.
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: Just and those are just the first two you're gonna get.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: By the end of this whole thing, going to get
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: twenty other schools announced deals.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: So a big bit of news. This is holdout time.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: So two first round pick running backs from three years ago,
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: four years ago, can't remember, but Bijon Robinson Jamier Gibbs,
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: who were both first round picks who both ended up
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: being guys that were worthy of first round picks because
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: they might be the two best backs in the league.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Well, their total studs is what they are, total studs.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Neither have shown up to their respective camps because they
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: were awaiting a long term deal, and that's what this
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: time of year is.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: Videvea, who is upset that he has not gotten.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: His his new contract as a veteran All Pro player,
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: said I want out.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: He's requested a trade.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: When Todd Bowles was asked about this why he missed practice,
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Todd Bowles said, he.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: Tweaked something, and I think Devea is saying.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm tweaking my contract is what I would
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: like to tweak.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: But it is funny.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: It's like you don't have to be specific, but he's
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: just like, yeah, he tweaked something. I'm like, I don't
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: think that's why he's not there. Actually, I think he's
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: probably feeling.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's pretty funny. One other thing, just.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: College football wise, the NCAA has made a suspension. This
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: is rare because this doesn't happen very often because they
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: have no control or power over their sport anymore.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: But they have.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Suspended Tennessee linebacker Arion Carter two games for a four
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: hundred and twenty seven dollars flight to an NFL pre
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: draft training facility. And of all the things that are
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: happening in college football, we're going to suspend a guy
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: for two games for a four hundred dollars flight.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Well, is this where we're drawing the lineup? Is this
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: a flight or is it that he went to an
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: NFL training facility?
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: Probably both? But who cares? What about it?
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: What's the I don't know what they can have? I
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: don't know now, what's the problem?
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: I asked that same ad. I said, so, what does
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: the NCUBA do now? And the n c DOUBLEA based
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: think about this? In college football, it doesn't do much
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: of anything. No, it runs a basketball tournament that makes
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: a lot of money, that's true, and it operates all
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: the other sports in the n c Double A and
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: their championship games. But for college football, what does the
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: NCAA really do?
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I got another.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: We're running out of time. I've got a good enough Okay,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: go ahead.
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: Okay, I'll save mine. I'll tell you what, because mine
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: comes with sound, I'll save it. For the nine o'clock
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: last thing.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Reading the article about the top pass rushing groups in
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: the NFL, top pass rushing groups in the National Football League,
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: where do you think the Denver Broncos stand in that list?
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: I mean top five top I mean it is a
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: lot of contingent on Cooper's availability.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: I'd say their top three, their top five. They're currently
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: number four with Benito Cooper, Ellis and and such. Steelers
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: are three with TJ. Watt high Smith and herbig Houston
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Texans are number two, especially the key contributes Will Anderson
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: and Daniel Hunter. Correct, Yeah, number one and maybe getting
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: even better Rams Mary had a little.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Duck yeah, Miles Garrett, Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Brought Byron Young, Josiah Stewart. And if you added imagine
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: the number one unit right now, and if you added
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Aaron Donald back into that mix, good lord, almighty, offenses
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: are going to get crushed scary.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: That is all, by the way, every day at eight
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: forty five back after this