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Chris Sale and Mookie Betts on 100 Men vs. 1 Gorilla, Untold 2018 Red Sox Stories _ On Base, Ep. 35 · Bleacher Report

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  Speaker 1: What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Guys?
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to On Base Live and your Bleach Report.
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  Speaker 1: I am your host, Mookie Vetts, And today we got
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  Speaker 1: a eight time All Star.
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  Speaker 2: You have to go to all that.
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  Speaker 1: I know you don't like that. Eight time All Star,
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  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen World Series Champion, twenty twenty four cy Young
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  Speaker 1: Winner Chris Sale.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing, brother, I'm good man, glad to be here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you had a tough time coming through
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  Speaker 1: is hot hot Atlanta. You know what I'm saying, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's starting to warm up.
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  Speaker 3: I was on the West Coast for a week, so
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  Speaker 3: I'm I'm not used to the commitdity yet. So coming
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  Speaker 3: back it gotta good.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta get back, Okay, all right? So bro, starting off,
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  Speaker 1: we played this game called on base and off base, right,
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  Speaker 1: and it's whether you're in or out. And so the
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  Speaker 1: first one is more teams should collab with other pro
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  Speaker 1: teams in their city. So the Hawks and the Braves
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  Speaker 1: for the city connect jerseys. What do you think? So
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  Speaker 1: the White Sox did it, which is your former team.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'll be honest, I kind of like those jerseys.
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  Speaker 3: I know there's it's you're very on it or you're
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  Speaker 3: very off it. I kind of like it because I
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  Speaker 3: think I think that teams should support each other, right,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that if you know, you got more
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  Speaker 3: of that, it kind of brings the sports together, I
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  Speaker 3: think a little bit more so when I originally saw
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  Speaker 3: the jerseys, I liked the jerseys. Now, whether or not
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  Speaker 3: you think that that might look a certain way, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, but I think they look good.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. I think it brings the cities together. I remember,
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  Speaker 1: you know, obviously being in LA and the Lakers, and
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  Speaker 1: then obviously Boston and the Celtics. When when you are
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  Speaker 1: when you know those guys, it feels like, okay, you
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  Speaker 1: know there's some guys that are like us that are
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  Speaker 1: trying to bring out home to the city.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it again too. It's like the
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  Speaker 3: camaraderie of like like pro sports, like when you when
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  Speaker 3: we got guys that come out, like when guys were
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  Speaker 3: cool you bring Yeah it is and you know they're
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  Speaker 3: coming through the clubhouse and there's just like a mutual
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  Speaker 3: respect from athlete to athlete because we don't really know
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  Speaker 3: exactly what they're going through, but we kind of have
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  Speaker 3: an idea based on like what we did so listen,
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  Speaker 3: I'm in on.
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  Speaker 2: That and on it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So what about this? You could pitch a you
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  Speaker 1: could pitch a game after having twelve express espressos.
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  Speaker 2: Out out you know me, I don't need more.
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  Speaker 1: So did you see Alvarado, Jose Alvarado, Yeah, he said
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  Speaker 1: he drinks twelve express So I want to say it's twelve.
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  Speaker 2: It's doing one hundred and five out there. Ay, man,
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  Speaker 2: I I can't do it.
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  Speaker 3: I need I need, I need less, like if I
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  Speaker 3: can't get more riled up than I already get.
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  Speaker 1: So do you you drink? Did you drink? How much
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  Speaker 1: coffee do you drink a day?
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  Speaker 2: I drink. I have like one cup in the morning
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  Speaker 2: and I stop in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have the Starbucks app?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: So you're not like a go on the road and
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  Speaker 1: order it. Because Freddy like he needs his coffee in
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  Speaker 1: the morning to get him going. And so I noticed
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  Speaker 1: his routine is, you know, go and uh I see
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  Speaker 1: a Starbucks coffee uh on the where the hosts are.
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  Speaker 1: When you come in, I know that's Freddy's that's you know,
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  Speaker 1: I know that's about to go up to Freddy's room.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm not a coffee stop no, not not to
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  Speaker 3: call him out like that, but like.
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  Speaker 2: I can, I can go hotel coffee.
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  Speaker 3: I just I just need something in the morning, on
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  Speaker 3: the bus ride or on the way into the yard
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  Speaker 3: or whatever. But no, I'm I'm I'm not fancy when
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  Speaker 3: it comes to coffee. I am about some things, but
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  Speaker 3: not Okay, we'll find out what those are.
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  Speaker 2: What about.
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  Speaker 1: What about this? You could score at least two points
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  Speaker 1: if you played a full NBA game all day. I
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  Speaker 1: got that two points?
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  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 1: So you you well, I mean you're six, and what
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  Speaker 1: are you gonna get to the lane? How are you
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  Speaker 1: going to get this buck? No?
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  Speaker 3: They're bigger than me. I don't know if I'm driving,
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  Speaker 3: if I'm getting to the right.
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  Speaker 1: But you think you can knock down at three? I
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  Speaker 1: mean I left he I think so, yeah, And not
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  Speaker 1: to be racist, but I left the white dude this six,
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  Speaker 1: he's got it. Look at this, Look at your jumper here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, okay, so this maybe that was that was as
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  Speaker 2: a joke.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, because okay, so if I remember correctly, he
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  Speaker 3: got hurt. Yep, that's when he heard it. So they
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  Speaker 3: sent me a jersey the like, hey, let's you know,
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  Speaker 3: pick him up, you know, do something nice for him.
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  Speaker 3: So that was basically like a I'm going to try
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  Speaker 3: to take the worst possible shot so this guy comes back,
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  Speaker 3: so I don't have to go play.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, but I actually I play well.
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  Speaker 3: I used to play a lot of basketball in the
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  Speaker 3: off season, and then once I started getting older.
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  Speaker 1: I had to Yeah, the mouths, the miles put that.
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  Speaker 3: On ice, but not my oldest son plays basketball. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm out there with him a lot o nice. So
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  Speaker 3: you say it's coming back, Yeah, it's coming back.
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  Speaker 2: Not competitive, but well we'll mess around out there.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what about this, A hundred men would win against
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  Speaker 1: one gorilla. Okay, you've seen this obviously.
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  Speaker 3: We had very extensive conversation about this on the bus
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  Speaker 3: two nights ago. So when we came in from Denver,
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  Speaker 3: it was one hundred men versus gorilla, one hundred men
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  Speaker 3: versus grizzly bear versus a lion shark in the water,
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  Speaker 3: and we got we got into it. I think if
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  Speaker 3: we got to hand pick the people, yes, but if
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  Speaker 3: you just go pick like a hundred random people, I
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  Speaker 3: think it's just a conveyor belt of just just nothing.
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  Speaker 1: You don't think you don't think a hundred men could
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  Speaker 1: like out smart one gorilla and it's to get him down.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the way I was presented to me is like
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  Speaker 3: we're in a room yep. So like if you're in
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  Speaker 3: a room without anything, like it's just a.
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  Speaker 1: It's okay, yeah, so you got to like beat this dude.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I think if you if you took like a
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  Speaker 3: hundred of the most skilled fighters on the planet, like
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  Speaker 3: you go to the UFC, you get you get kabeeb,
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  Speaker 3: you get you get all the all the big dogs
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  Speaker 3: John Jones, and put them in a room. And then
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  Speaker 3: I brought up the fact that Mike Tyson tried to
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  Speaker 3: fight a gorilla, a gorilla that he gave he tried
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  Speaker 3: to pay somebody because he saw one of them messing around,
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  Speaker 3: I swear, And I was like, dude, Mike Tyson and
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  Speaker 3: his probably might be able to go one on one.
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  Speaker 1: But if Mike Tyson could do a one on.
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  Speaker 2: One, that's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: I think if I think could yeah, I do, but
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  Speaker 3: not any hundred people.
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  Speaker 2: It would have to be specific.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe I'm just like not thinking clearly, but I'm thinking, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: one hundred men, we should be able to at least
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  Speaker 1: put together some type of plan.
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  Speaker 3: So I think the problem is you don't have one
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  Speaker 3: hundred people's power fighting this thing at because you can
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  Speaker 3: only have so many people on this thing at one time. See,
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  Speaker 3: you're probably and this is I can't believe we're talking
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  Speaker 3: about this this long, But dude, I'm telling when we
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  Speaker 3: were on the bus other night, we were probably delirious too,
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  Speaker 3: because it was late.
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  Speaker 2: We were we were we were getting into this discussion.
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  Speaker 1: So okay, So I think so I want to kind
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  Speaker 1: of switch switch gears real quick. I want to uh
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  Speaker 1: talk about a little bit about last year and you
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  Speaker 1: you want to cy Young and how was it, How
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  Speaker 1: was it going through the going through that year, Like
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  Speaker 1: was there any failure at all? Did you or did
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  Speaker 1: you just cruise all year?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Failure, but like you know, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: I hit a couple couple of rough patches. So where
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  Speaker 2: do we start out?
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  Speaker 3: We started out in Philly, then we went to Chicago,
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  Speaker 3: came back Arizona.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was my third start.
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  Speaker 3: I went down to Miami and it was just like
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  Speaker 3: kind of one of those weird day games where it was.
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  Speaker 2: Like I gave up a bunch of runs, but I
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  Speaker 2: still didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Like pitch bats. I gave up five, but I went seven,
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  Speaker 3: So it was like okay, okay, okay. It was just
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  Speaker 3: like a couple of lapses, like a couple of weird innings,
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  Speaker 3: walked a couple guys. So that was like the first
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  Speaker 3: like misstep, and then I go through May and I
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  Speaker 3: just kind of cruise through May.
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  Speaker 1: I how were you cruising? Like? It was it like
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  Speaker 1: do you just find a mechanic or something or what.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just kind of like where when you're
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  Speaker 3: on a baseball field, you're not thinking.
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  Speaker 2: A whole lot. That's that's the sweet spot.
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  Speaker 3: Right when you're just you're just doing what you do
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  Speaker 3: because you know how to do it. When things are
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  Speaker 3: off a little bit, you start tinkering and sometimes you
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  Speaker 3: can overanalyze, you can over try to overperform and try
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  Speaker 3: to get too much, and you actually take a step back.
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  Speaker 3: And I think even before all that, like I had
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  Speaker 3: a really good off season. Getting traded it was kind
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  Speaker 3: of I've said this before, it was kind of a
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  Speaker 3: breath of fresh air, kind of getting a clean slate.
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  Speaker 3: You know, a lot of stuff had happened in Boston
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  Speaker 3: with me so I think I think getting to Atlanta
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  Speaker 3: being you know, being able to take that like kind
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  Speaker 3: of kind of an exhale for the first time. And
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  Speaker 3: then so so May comes, I have a really good May,
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  Speaker 3: feeling good. I'm like, I get a win picture of
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  Speaker 3: the month in May and I'm like.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I might have it back.
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  Speaker 1: It usually don't pay attention to stuff like this, like
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  Speaker 1: you don't care, no, but if you know, if you
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  Speaker 1: noticed it, that means you were pitching, like you felt
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  Speaker 1: like you were doing that good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And so it was just like start after start, I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, just kind of gaining gown, gaining ground.
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  Speaker 2: My first start in June was against the A's.
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  Speaker 1: Eight runs of course, yeah, and you know it was
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  Speaker 1: one of those things and you know me like I
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  Speaker 1: I after a game like that, I can get kind
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  Speaker 1: of hot. Oh yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I just remember after that start, it was just
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  Speaker 3: like a very humbling feeling and it was like, all right, man,
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  Speaker 3: like just take this one off the chin and get
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  Speaker 3: back to it. I remember Ozuma, man, he came up
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  Speaker 3: to me. He's like, hey, that happens, don't worry about it.
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  Speaker 3: You'll get right back to it. And then after that
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  Speaker 3: it was just the hardest part was just kind of
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  Speaker 3: maintaining my schedule and not again like the putting those
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  Speaker 3: blinders on, not paying attention to like the outside noise,
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  Speaker 3: because you know, you get to a and point in
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  Speaker 3: the year and people are starting to talk about things.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course things are coming up. And even
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  Speaker 3: in interviews, you know, your postgame interviews, people are bringing
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  Speaker 3: stuff up and you're like, man, I wish you would
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  Speaker 3: just shut up good.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's inevitable, like there's no way to
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  Speaker 1: there's no way to do well or do bad and
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  Speaker 1: it not come to you, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, and you look at you look at like Judge
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  Speaker 3: right now, and you know, I'm doing exactly what I
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  Speaker 3: say I don't want to do. But like how many
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  Speaker 3: times does he face that every day? The numbers and
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  Speaker 3: like can he do it? And all this stuff, and
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  Speaker 3: so it's like you just try to block that stuff
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  Speaker 3: out as much as possible.
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  Speaker 1: And so tell me a little bit because I'm thinking
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  Speaker 1: cy Young winners, MVP winners, you know, the greatest right
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  Speaker 1: especially in the season or whatever, typically do like a
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  Speaker 1: lot of work, Like there's a lot of work behind
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  Speaker 1: the scenes, and not that you don't do a lot
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  Speaker 1: of work. But when it comes to like game planning,
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  Speaker 1: watching film, X, Y and Z, that's not that may
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  Speaker 1: not what I from what I know, that's not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: like a cup of tea of yours. No, Like you
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  Speaker 1: may watch and understand and I think, I think you
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  Speaker 1: watched the game. You know, I watched the game as
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  Speaker 1: it unfolds, and I've known that you've been doing that
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  Speaker 1: since you were in college? So why why is that?
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  Speaker 1: How is that even possible?
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  Speaker 3: The simplest form is, I've never called a pitch of
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  Speaker 3: my own. So like when I'm in high school, my
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  Speaker 3: high school coach is calling pictures, right, Oh, okay, you
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  Speaker 3: get to college, and like if you shake off your
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  Speaker 3: college coach, the coach is college pitch. Yeah, I'd still
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  Speaker 3: be running if I shook him off, right, Like you're
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  Speaker 3: you're in trouble, right, Like that is just like a
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  Speaker 3: no no. And then I get drafted. I'm a first rounder.
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  Speaker 3: I show up to Pro ball, and like, you don't
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  Speaker 3: want to you don't want to like assert yourself too much,
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  Speaker 3: especially as a first rounder when you knew and all
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  Speaker 3: this stuff, and so I was just kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of went with the flow.
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  Speaker 3: And then like I got to the big leagues really quick,
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  Speaker 3: and my first catcher was a J. Perzinski, So I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: can't shake him off, right, Nope. So I mean I
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  Speaker 3: had gone from the time that I had ever first
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  Speaker 3: started pitching to all the way to a major league
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  Speaker 3: mound and never shook off a pitch, not that I
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  Speaker 3: not that I know of anyways. And it's weird because
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  Speaker 3: I'll sit in the dugout and I'll watch you know,
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  Speaker 3: Holmes pitch or I'm watching you know whoever it is
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  Speaker 3: out there on the mound, and I'll call pitches for them.
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  Speaker 3: I'm watching the game. I'm like, Okay, go here right now.
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  Speaker 3: And so it's like I feel like I have the
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  Speaker 3: ability to do.
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  Speaker 2: It, but.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to. You don't want to like exercise
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  Speaker 1: that though. You don't want to say, hey, like how
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  Speaker 1: many times has it happened to where like he's called
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  Speaker 1: slider or whatever and you have disagreed with it, but
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  Speaker 1: through it anyway.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if there's ever a time I've disagreed
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  Speaker 3: with a pitch, because I like, for me, no matter
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  Speaker 3: what he calls, in my mind, I just I just
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  Speaker 3: hit a gear where I'm like, hell, yeah, okay, I'm
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  Speaker 3: stuffing this thing. Okay, like okay, two seamer in heater up,
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  Speaker 3: change up away, no matter what it is in any
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  Speaker 3: count I just go basically hammered down, just throw the
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  Speaker 3: best pitch you can.
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  Speaker 2: So and another thing too.
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  Speaker 3: When I was young, we would go to these pitchers meetings,
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  Speaker 3: right and I was when I first came up.
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  Speaker 2: I was in the bullpen.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like you're you're you're in the bullpen group
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  Speaker 3: and you're just going over hitters, and I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 3: just sitting around just like I'm just looking around.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: It was tough for me to like pay attention to that.
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  Speaker 3: So then when I became a starter, Don Cooper was
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  Speaker 3: my pitching coach and we would have these it was
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  Speaker 3: me Flowers or me and AJ and Coop and we
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  Speaker 3: it was before the game, and he would he we'd
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  Speaker 3: be going through hitters, and I think he noticed me
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  Speaker 3: just kind of I'm over here.
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  Speaker 2: So we did that.
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  Speaker 3: I forget how many times we did that, but he
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  Speaker 3: finally came up to me, was like, hey, man, just
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  Speaker 3: just don't come anymore. Like I'll take care of it
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  Speaker 3: with the catcher. You just get prepared. And I was
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  Speaker 3: like perfect. I remember another time I went to the
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  Speaker 3: video room to go watch hitters, right and I was
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  Speaker 3: down there for probably forty five minutes. Was Cleveland. I
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  Speaker 3: was getting ready for to face Cleveland, and I remember
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  Speaker 3: just watching all this video and saying like okay, like
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  Speaker 3: this was the setup pitch.
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  Speaker 1: And I walked out of.
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  Speaker 3: That room and I remembered nothing. You know, I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, like let's just get back to the norm.
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  Speaker 3: Let's just like, for me, the most important thing about
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  Speaker 3: this game is competing. If you go out there and
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  Speaker 3: you put yourself out there, and you put it on
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  Speaker 3: the line, and you leave everything out there, more times
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  Speaker 3: than not you'll be successful.
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  Speaker 1: And so I wholeheartedly agree with that. But I do
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  Speaker 1: have another question. So if because you see so many
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  Speaker 1: guys shake and it's like Okay, the catcher suggests this
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  Speaker 1: pitch and they shake because they are fully convinced in
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  Speaker 1: this other pitch, does that come from the flow of
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  Speaker 1: the game or some work that they maybe remember watching
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  Speaker 1: video or something like what does that come from?
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  Speaker 3: So I think that's more like scattering report, Like all
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  Speaker 3: those guys it's like okay, this guy, And it's like
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  Speaker 3: percentages game too, because sometimes you get into one one
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  Speaker 3: counts and this guy's going to throw a fastball seventy
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: two percent of the time or whatever it is, right,
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: so it's like, okay, look out for this. And sometimes
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: guys just have holes, and like, especially when you're in
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: a when you're in a jam, you just kind of
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: hammer that, you know, or if you have like an
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: unbelievable pitch, like you have just a really good strength
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: and it's a weakness of his, you just hammer that
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: until you know he gets out or.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: You walk them.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Yeahah, okay. So and I do want to ask this
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: question because you want to say young last year and
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: this year, like what was your thought? How how did
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: you feel coming into the year, because I remember when
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: I won MVP in eighteen and coming into nineteen because
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, you've done it, You've played, You've
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: played great, you had a great season, X, Y and Z.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: It was almost like I put my new stand. This
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: is like a new standard for me, Like I raised
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: the bar for myself, and I remember like not living
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: up to that bar, especially early. I'm like, man, I gotta,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta get back. I gotta get back.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: And it was like it I think it made it
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: tougher for me because I put that expectation on myself.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Obviously on the outside there was expectations as well, and
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: so I remember going through that season like I was,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: I had this this unreal thing instead of just being
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: who I was before I got there because I didn't
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: have that expectation. And so now you create that expectation
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: in some way, form or fashion, and it gets hard.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: And so I want to hear you like your perspective.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: When it when when when you do something like that,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: Like I remember that season you had. I mean that
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: was it was ridiculous. So like, but like, who are
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: we as athletes or who we as even people? To
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: where our baseline now is just being the best?
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Right? Like what? What?
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Like that's an unbelievable spot to be in. And that's
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: that's where I would encourage people to want to be.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Like you always want to be like when you show
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: up on a daily basis, you want to be the
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: best version of yourself, and that's what we do every day.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: But what I've noticed is it takes a little bit
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: of the fun away from the game when you put
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: that kind of pressure on yourself. And I mean my
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: first month of the season, I've I've been very below average, and.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: You said it, you said you just hate sucking, and
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: so yeah, that's why I wanted to hear.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: So it's it's it's something where this game is a
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: fine line of being very intense but loose at the
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: same time if that even makes sense, right, Like you
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: have to be locked in. You can't be aloof you
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: can't not be focused on like what you're doing. But
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: you have to have a sense of like trust in
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: yourself and the ability that you bring to the table.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: So it's like can be hyper focused on.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because again, when when you try too hard, that's
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: when you cut. Sometimes you take a step back, and
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: it's like you have to you have to be able
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: to still have fun playing this game. And when it
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: turns into like, man, I have to do this, I
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: have to do this like that sometimes you trip and
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: fall and you're not focusing on the right things.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: It gets hard, man, it get it gets It gets
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: so hard. And so what did you do or what
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: thoughts have you had really to uh to kind of
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: keep you not in that same space that I was
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: talking about as far as not putting that hot extra
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: high expectation on yourself.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: So I just focus on like my in between days,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: because I know my start day, like I have to
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: be the way I am and I have to.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: But you're pretty loose on start day though. Before the game, Yeah, yeah,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: you're pretty normal.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: I would say before the game, about about an hour
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: before the game is when I start getting kind of
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: focused on my routine and stuff like that. But even then,
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: like if you came up and asked me, it was like, hey,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: do you want blah blah blah, or like what do
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: you think about this? Like I still have conversations. It's
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: not like one of those people that like you can't
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: talk to.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know how they do that.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know either.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: I would be sleep in the third inning if I
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: lock done at two o'clock in the afternoon. So I
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: think I just focused on on the in between stuff,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: having more fun at the field. There were a couple
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: of things I had to do mechanically that I wasn't doing.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: My armslot was a little lower, some of the things
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: with my lower body that I wasn't like. There are
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: certain cues that I have to hit to get to
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: the end result, and a couple of things early were
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: just kind of kind of unwinding me before I got
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: to letting it rip. But I just focused on having
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: fun on my in between days, like no matter like
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: if I'm pitching good, if I'm pitching bad, like I
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: have to be the same guy and I still want
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: to have fun doing this. I don't want to show
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: up to the park every dawn, major League baseball player.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: This should not be miserable. This should not be like
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: you know, like so it's like, okay, take the expectations away,
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: focus on your work, focus on being a good teammate,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: and have fun, try to have a good time out there.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: And I think that's that's kind of loosened it a
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: little bit to get back to being successful.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Nice, nice, And of course you're back to doing what
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: you always do. Okay, so let's go. Let's go back,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: because I haven't gotten to talk a whole lot about
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and like that year, that's something that I
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: feel like we can talk forever about. I remember going
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: into spring training and like, you know, we're pretty good,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: but you know whatever, Cora Core had just gotten there
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: and he come he came in and it was awesome,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: you know, but you know, I didn't really know anything,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure you know he would. There wasn't much
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: really to think about. And then we started playing spring
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: training and I think we like we won a lot
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: of games in the spring. We won a lot of games,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: and we had just a really good team. And then
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: we started off that season. Well, I think we started
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: off that season in Tampa. In Tampa.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: That's like one of that is like the one thing
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: I think of that, Like, the very first game of
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: that season didn't go our way?
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Did it not? At all?
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: We are ohero and.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: One we are we are three hours into this season
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: and people are dropping el losing from the mine. Oh yeah,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: because I remember that because after we won, they had
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: like okay, like read these mean tweets after game one
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: of the season and people were letting it.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Rep that that was but that that was the beauty
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: of Boston because it kind of kept you, you know,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: it kept you accountable at all times. And so then
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: we ended up going I think we won like twenty games.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: We went like twenty and four, twenty and five or
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: something like that, and I just remember showing up to
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the park and every day it was like we're gonna win.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the expectation every day.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: And I remember seeing I remember a stretch did you
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: get did you get three hundred strikeouts that year?
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: That was in seventeen.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I remember a stretch when it was just like every
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: day we just came and we beat the brakes off
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: of them, and we went home every day, and Kora
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: had it to where like we were just hanging out.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember hanging out in the
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: clubhouse and all these other things. And and we get
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: go through, get through playoffs, get to playoffs, right, we're
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: just steamrolling, steamroling and that going through that playoffs. And
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: not that anything's ever easy, nothing's ever easy in this game,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: but relative to this game, that was one of the
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: smoothest easiest playoffs I have ever been a part of.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: As far as like.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: So easy is a tough word to use them Yeah, yeah,
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: I get what you're trying to say, Like it there
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: was there was really no panic, no at all. And
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: the playoffs are very pressure. Oh yeah, I mean it's
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: a tense environment. And I think I think there's the
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: way a c ran that team, you know, like there
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: there were a couple of points throughout the year where.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Like you look up and you're like, man, we're we're
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: the nastiest team in the league right.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Now, like like that, Like we're like we're looking down
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: at second place, like by a distance, and it like
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: just I remember, like to your point, we showed up
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: every day and we're like it didn't matter who was pitching,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: didn't matter who we were playing.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Like, we got we got you leading off, we.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Got JD bringing the heat, we got young Raffiew Devers, Bogue.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: I mean it was just name after name after that.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: That lineup was relentless. Our starting rotation held it down,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: and our bullpen had we had fuel out there, and
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: but I think just in the way Ac kind of
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: handled it and to our credit, we put ourselves in
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: a very good position as a team. But as kind
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: of the captain of the ship, you got to kind
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: of know when to you know, how to navigate that,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: and he was able to kind of rest our starters
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: and give some of our everyday guys a blow here
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: and there down the stretch. Uh, you know, you get
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: to August September, it's it's a grind and it gets rough. Yeah,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: and like it's rough the fact where you can kind
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: of ease off the gas but still be in the
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: lead and know like stay focused.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Man. That was that was, that was.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. Then we get to the World Series
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: and then I remember because towards the end we had
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: gotten thinned down in the bullpen. I remember, I think
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: somebody gotten hurt or something. I don't remember. I don't
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: remember exactly what happened, but I remember seeing in the
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: World Series you come out and in the ninth inning
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, first of all, when I saw you
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: go down there warming up, I'm like, if he if
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: he touches this ball, the game is over, you know,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: because I mean, like the game look at that. I
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: remember seeing you come out and I'm like, we want
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: it's over with. There's nothing they can do about it,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: because I played ping pong with you, and I know
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: when you smell blood, it's over with. And so that
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: time I remember, I just remember all I mean standing
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: in right field and I mean you just took it
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: over by yourself. You're like, guys, we could have sat
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Indian style and everything would have been everything would have
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: been just fine. And uh, I remember after that that
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: moment was like wow, that was that was a beautiful thing.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: But like that was like the most stress free baseball
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I played. And maybe because obviously yes it was very stressful, right,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: but like with the team and the camaraderie was like, man,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: we had fun even in that moment. I remember you
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: yelling at us, take me through that. Remember you, you screamed,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: So I do remember that.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: So and and to further the point too, is even
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: our even our front office was locked in because you
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: look at the guys we brought in. They they had
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: their hands all over that, all over the second half
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: push that we made. And you know, Nate, Nate had
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: one of the most legendary outings in postseason history was
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: the m v P and he he was up there.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Swinging a freaking boat or so.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: I remember in Game three, right, we we had played
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: that marathon game.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: What was it sixteen innings?
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sixteen something crazy, and I just remember we
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: we lost that game. And again, just to point out
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: chorus feel, I remember coming in that clubhouse. I mean
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: we were there for five outs and we walk in.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: I mean that was that was a tough, tough loss
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: to a really good team in the World Series on
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: the road. I mean, we put we had we had
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: spent every bullet. I remember asking Ac after every extra
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: inning game like when am I going to the bullpen?
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: When am I going to the bullpen?
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: He's like, we need you for tomorrow, Like we have to,
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: we have to, we have to keep something. I can
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: keep asking, like it was every inning, like when am
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: I going out there?
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: When do you need me out there? You just kind
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: of kept like, hey, keep keep it down.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: But I remember coming in after that, and I remember
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: just being so like hot after that game, and AC
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: had that meeting with the with the whole squad and
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: and basically was like, hey, what what just happened was unbelievable.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: And I know we weren't on the right side of it,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: but I remember like we left that game almost feeling
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: like we didn't even lose that. It was like a
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: sense of like all right, like we just lost the game. Whatever,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: let's show up tomorrow. Well when we showed up tomorrow
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: off like that. The next day game four, Brian Johnson
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: actually came up to me and was like, dude, we're
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: flat right now. This is this is a freaking World
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Series and we're flat.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: He's like, I.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Feel like someone someone's to say something like something we
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: had he wasn't going to get something going. Yeah, So
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: I remember we were down in the tunnel, and I
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: forget exactly like what moment it happened where I was like, okay,
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: like the two wires in my brain touched, the spark
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: went and I'm.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Like and I just lose it.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: And it was basically just along the lines of like, hey,
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: let's let's pick it up, like, let's let's be who
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: we are. This is not where we're playing flat right now.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: And you know, there's some more maybe character words behind it,
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: but it was basically like, hey, let's this is not
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: who we are. We're playing flat, this is not what
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: we've done the whole year, the whole playoffs, or even
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: in these first few World Series games, like pick it up,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: let's let's be the team we are.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: And did did It was just you and BJ. You
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: didn't run this by anybody else.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Not that I remember. I remember him. He came up
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: to me like earlier in the game, and then it
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: was another time and we just kind of like we're
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: like looking back at each other, and I was finally
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: like all right, man, like this is is going down.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: It is going down.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I remember, and I remember when you started yelling because
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I think rich Hill was pitching.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: He was just shoving.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: And I remember when you started yelling, I'm like, why
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: is he yelling? If he's yelling, something's really going on
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: because you never did that. You know, you're always chill,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: You're always chill. And I was like, man, well, yeah, exactly,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: you weren't yelling for nothing. And I just remember we
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: and we did. And I don't know that I can't
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: say it was all because of that, but you know,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I think it did get us going, like, damn, you know,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: this is the World Series. I think we were just
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: so used to just cruising that it was going to
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: happen that you know, we needed a little, a little
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: you know, smack in the face for a second to
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: wake up.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: And sometimes there's there's a there's there's a couple of
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: different avenues of how you can deliver information to people.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: And sometimes it's like hey man, like what do you got,
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Like what's going on? And it's like it's a conversation
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: between two people, and sometimes you need someone to come
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: up to you and just kind of like you know,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: grab you by the shirt and say hey man, like
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: let's go, let's let's go, and like different people respond
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: to different things, uh differently obviously, but I just felt
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: like in that moment, it was like, okay, like everybody
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: in this clubhouse knows who I am and knows what
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: I how I operate, And I wouldn't do this if
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: I didn't feel like it was necessary, because I that
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: was That's probably the first time I've ever yelled in
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: a dugout like at my teammates, not you know, at
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: myself or about a situation. But yeah, I mean what
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: happened after that was obviously pretty special. Beautiful was a
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: beautiful thing as Mitch as Mitch's boss yet I don't know.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: But that was that Homer was, So I want to
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: go back to a young you a little bit because
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I know people know somewhat about your upcoming up bringing.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Should I say, so, where are you from?
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Lakeland?
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Lakeland, Florida, Lakeland, Florida and fishing? Did you grow up fishing?
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: How are you from Florida? And don't fish? Like? How's that?
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Because when I was a kid, all I ever wanted
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: to do is play sports, And I remember going fishing
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: as a kid, and just is all we're doing?
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Like I was not?
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: That was it?
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I was down. I was not down with like the
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: relaxing part, like for fishing.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: It's more of like, oh you're it's very leisurely. I
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: was not leisurely when I was a kid, all sports
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: all day. It was either on a bike, playing basketball, soccer, baseball.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: What did you play football? I mean just I'm tiny too,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: but I put on some pads.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: No, I was so I was always really really skinny
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: as a kid. So I got snapped in half.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: On a football field. So, especially in.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Florida, you got to understand like Florida and where I
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: went to high school, like we were we were nasty,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: and so it was like all right, I'll show up,
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: but I'm not going.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: To play so baseball and basketball.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Uh So it was mostly baseball and soccer as a kid.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: I never played basketball like in a league or anything. Yeah, no,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: never organized. And then I played golf growing up a
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: little bit. But then like once I got to high school,
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: it was it was literally all baseball.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Why did you you didn't want to do anything else
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: or that was.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: No, So baseball again, like I've played baseball since before
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: I can remember, like I don't even have my first
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: memory of baseball because it was I was three, four
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: or five years old, whatever it was, and I just
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: I loved the game. Like I'm telling you, I would.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: I would come home from games and go in my
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: backyard and play. I would wake up in the morning
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: and play before school as soon as my dad. My
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: dad would walked through the door and I would be
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: standing there at the garage with his glove and my
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: glove and we were out in the backyard.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I mean it was. It was NonStop.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: When my friends came over, we were playing in the
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: backyard with souvenir bats and tennis balls hand I mean
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: it was. It was literally twenty four to seven.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: So you got to high school, and were you good
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: in high school? I mean, I mean obviously relative.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean I was.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: I was good enough, But I was I was I
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: guess you could say more of like a late bloomer
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: when it came to like figuring out like how this
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: whole thing worked, because I played JV for two years
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: and then I was on varsity for a couple of
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: years and was still probably not even the best player
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: on my team.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: And you hit in high school, are we? Yeah? Okay,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: so were you a good hitter?
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I was all right?
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: You're all right, yeah, And did you when you went
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: to Guy recruited what schools? Did you get recruited by?
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Gulf Coast?
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: That was the only one that was it?
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: That was the only Division I school that I know
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: of that recruited me.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: And you went there? And how was it? I know,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever asked, how was it?
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Having spring training right in like your your backyard quote
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: unquote your backguard.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: It was the best. I basically made two moves.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: So when I was in Chicago I still live down
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: in Fort Myers Naples area. When I was with Chicago,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: and it was like we're moving from here to Arizona
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: to Chicago. So like it was just like this big
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: triangle of moving stuff. Like when I got to Boston,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: it was like I get to stay at my house
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: for two extra months, and I have two moves. It's
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: from here to here and from here back to here.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: So it worked out. It worked out perfectly.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: And so how often did you, knowing that we were
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: in Fort Myers, how often did you go over to
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: the college to to like watch games or.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Just actually I mean we had a couple of you know,
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: outings over there. We went Watston basketball games. I keep
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: in touch with the with our with the head because
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: the head coach that's there now is the only one
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: that's ever been there.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Oh wow. Yeah, Dave Tillet's been there since day.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: So that means he's like he's a legit coach. Like
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: for a coach to stay for somewhere that long, you
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: have to be a really really good coach.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Well, and every time he went to the next level,
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: he got better. Like our first two years. So the
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: first year that I went there was our first year
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: of Division one. Okay, so the as a D two
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: school before I got there. My freshman year, we were
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Division one and we stame rolled.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I mean we wow.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: I mean we went like twenty eight and five or
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: something like that in conference. I mean it was it
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: was a smaller conference, but yeah, no, he was. That
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: guy's getting a statue somewhere around that university when he's done.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: So I will I'll tell you a story a little
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: bit about FGC. So I obviously I was with Boston,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: you know, the whole beginning of my career. So I
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: was in Fort Myers. I watched Fort Myers and obviously
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: you you as well, but you remember when nothing was
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: around there.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh yeah, old Coach Town Center wasn't even like
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: all the way built out.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when I first it wasn't like it was on
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: a couple of restaurants like and now it's a whole
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: new city. But I remember going over the FGCU man
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: and you know, I was nineteen twenty eighteen, nineteen twenty,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: going over there and hoping all the time out.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: On the outdoor courts by the tennis courts.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, outdoor courts by the tennis courts, hoping all the time,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: and after after spring training games or whatever, I will
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: go over there and play, and we ended up going.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: We ended up making it inside. We hoped so much
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: that we got in contact with one of the guys,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: one of the players or whatever. We ended up hooping
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: in in the gym and everything.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: So or did they have the auxiliary?
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: We both Okay, I felt like I went to FGC.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Well you're moving bed, so I'm sure you can pull
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: some strings.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: So but yeah, then I remember going to a game
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: over there, and so FGCU that was a It seemed
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: like if you went to that school, you loved it,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: you really loved you know what I'm saying. And so
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: obviously you did and you, I know you've told the
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: story a million times. But uh, for the people that
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: don't know, de Graham went to a school similar to yours.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Right, he went to Stetson, so we were in the
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: same we were in the same conference, same.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Conference, so same conference. And he was he de Grom
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: then or not not yet?
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: No, so not that I remember. I don't remember that,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: you know, I'll say this about de Grom.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there it is.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: I think that was his only high school or only
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: college home or two. And he went bro when I
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: tell you he went way back. I hope they show
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: where this ball lands. So that's a road that's that
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: was that Lipscomb Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's okay. I
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: mean that ball. I mean he absolutely knew that ball. So,
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: I mean he was playing short then, right, yes, And
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: I don't remember him pitching like he I mean obviously
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: like he's pitching now. I'll say that, pound for pound,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: that might be the baddest dude I've ever seen on
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: the mountain, like pure stuff. I mean, it's it's pretty incredible.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: But I mean you're you're pretty up there too, though. Yeah,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: but you're pretty up there. I don't know, man, especially
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: when you like get mad, because usually you don't pitch mad,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: starting off like you pitched it with a calm head,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: and then somebody gets on base. Then you start getting
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: not I wouldn't call it mad, but I guess hyper
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: focused whatever it is.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: And then you hit just get that different gear going.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: So why do you do that? Why do you go
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: because you didn't used to do that pitch at ninety
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: three ninety four and then run up to seven to eight,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Like is it just because of like wearing tear or
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: just something like you know what I'm saying, Yeah, because
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I remember that year in seventeen bro, oh my god,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: oh my goodness.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Oh man, that was my That was a good arm too.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: I didn't have this guy then.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: But for those who don't know, look up Chris Sels
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: twenty seventeen numbers please.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that that was.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: That was probably my most dominant year in terms of
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: like just going out there and just I mean that
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: that was. That was different. That was it was different.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: And now I think I think now it's just I
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: know I can't. I don't think i'll I wouldn't make
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: it a full season redlining the whole time, right, Like
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: I use this example a lot too, and I think
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: that's why guys are getting hurt a lot. Now, I mean,
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: that's that's a whole different discussion. But like everybody or
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: most of the time, we're pitching at max effort, and
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: I just I don't think that that. Like I just
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: know I can't maintain max effort balls to the wall
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: one hundred percent for thirty plus starts, one hundred pitches
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: per it, you know, game all that stuff, so you
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: kind of have to pick your spots. And and again,
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: like sometimes I do get get hot out there. My
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: motor starts running hot, and you know, you got guys
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: on second and third and you got one out. It's like, okay, well,
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: now's the time, you know. So it's like, okay, let's
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: let's strand these runners here, and then you go back
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: out for the next inning and you start pitching a
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: little bit. But yeah, I just wouldn't be able to
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: maintain that level of intensity through an entire year and
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: stay healthy, I believe.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: So what what would you say the difference between twenty
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: seventeen Chris sail is in twenty twenty four, twenty twenty
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: five Chris Sail And for me, I would say facing well,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I think I guessaid in face you in seventeen, but
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: prior to like sometimes you would just out stuff whoever
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: the hitter is, Like, you know, I would just I'm
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: just gonna beat you because I'm throwing ninety nine from
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: the side with a sweepy slider in a nasty changeup
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: and you just can't hit it. And it's like, now
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: what I see is like, yeah, I can do that
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: same thing at ninety two though, like and and make
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: more starts or you know or whatever. And so now
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: it's like instead of me just aiming down the middle
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: and throwing my ninety nine, now I'm gonna take my
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: ninety three and stuff it and you're still not going
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: to be able to hit it. So I want to
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: from you know what you feel like the difference between
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: you is between these two years.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: So I would say I just try to be a
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: little bit smarter with with how I operate just in general,
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: like I would say last year, I slept more last
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: year than I slept any other like, so I worked
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: really hard on recovery when I was twenty five twenty
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: six years old.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Taco Bail, I didn't need to sleep.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: It didn't matter what I ate, Like it didn't matter
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: what my routine was. Like I'd literally go like this three.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Times, hand me the ball and just start flinging that
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: thing at ninety five ninety six, and like it was
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: just it just came easier. Now there's a lot of
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: things that I have to do throughout the week to
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: get back to one hundred percent, and I'm just smarter,
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: you know, Like there were times where you know, I
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: was very much trying to put you know, the square
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: peg in the circle hole, and I was just trying
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: to I'm going to force this to happen, as opposed
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: to like, hey, let's take a step back, take a
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: look at like what the situation is. And sometimes sometimes
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: you going with a game plan, you got to switch
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: it up. And I was like, you know, like you said,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: it was it was everything I got all the time.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: And you're right, like I was lucky enough to be
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: able to go out there sometimes and just flat just
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: beat people without having to really compete, you know what
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: I mean. And now it's like, okay, like you got
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: to pitch sometimes, Like in my last start, I mean,
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: I'm rearing back. I was in Denver and there's a
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: day game, you know, I'm rearing back for like ninety
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: three that day. So it's like, hey, man, right, Like
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I'm like grunting on this thing.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: It's ninety four and I'm like, all right, man, Like
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: it's just not one of those days.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: So like you have to adjust, you have to make
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: some different changes in how you operate, and I think
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: I'm better at that now than I was.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Then. Do you think somebody like, you know, these young
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: guys coming up all throwing, you know, sitting a hundred
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: all game and I'm not saying your advice to them
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: or X Y and Z, but like, do you think
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: how long is that really sustainable for them? You know,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: without because I feel like I feel like guys like
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: the grom as well, like now that he's you know,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: his second tej or whatever, he's come back. Now he's
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: throwing ninety five ninety six, and he was like the
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: same guy, Like obviously his his command is elite. Yeah
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: it was at one hundred and hundred and two, but
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: like now he's gonna have to move it around a
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: little more, X Y and Z because now he's amongst
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: the normal people throwing ninety five. You know what I'm
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: saying he's amongst the normal people. Now, can't he still.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Sit just like this normal that's a Toyota Corolla now exactly.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: And so I feel like guys like him, you guys
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: like to have the power, but choose not to because
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I'm going to maneuver my way through the game. It's
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: almost like I'm not gonna say it's better, but maybe
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: more efficient in the long run for health. What do
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: you think about that?
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: No? I agree. I think.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: It's just it's it's a tough thing because it's once
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: once the cat's out of the bag and never goes back.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: In, right.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: And I think with all the analytics, all the numbers
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: that we have, you're always again like we talked about earlier,
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: you're always chasing that elite number. You're always chasing your
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: best fastball. You're always wanting the best, the most spin
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: on your breaking ball. And you know, if you have
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: a guy that's got that throw, that can throw ninety
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: eight ninety nine, you're not gonna really you're not gonna
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: want them to get beat with ninety two ninety three.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: And not only that, just just the way this game
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: is kind of operating now, like you can lose your
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: job and a handful of outings and so it's like
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: you're always you're always wanting the premium of what you
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: can produce.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just hard to sustain being premium.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Well, and that's the problem, right is is Yeah, And
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: I use this, I use this analogy. Right like you
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: go buy go, buy a brand new car today. Whatever
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: card does, it doesn't matter. And every time you put
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: that thing in drive, just put it to the floor,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: just pedal to the metal, redline it and go. I
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: mean you can you it might break the first time
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: you do it. You might get a couple of years
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: down the road before it breaks, but like it's something
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: is going to happen, Like that's not sustainable, and it's
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: I think it's very similar to Pitcher's arms, where it's
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: like when you're young and you're strong and you you
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: have that ability, you can do it for a little while,
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: and you might even be able to do it for
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: quite a while, but eventually like it's going to stop,
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: and then you got arm problems and then you come
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: back and then it's you know, it's it's effort. Yeah,
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: and it's tough to learn how to pitch, you know,
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: seven years into your career, you know, as opposed to
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: learning how to pitch and then gaining arm speed after that.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I got a question, like, what's next for you? So
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: you want to say young one, m v P or
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: MVP uh World Series. You've won pretty much all awards.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, what what what keeps you coming to the
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: park every day.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: I still like it, I still have fun, and I think,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: you know, knock on wood. The worst part about this
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: game for me was being hurt and I went.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: I spent a lot of.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: Time being hurt and and that, and it really kind
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: of sucked the life out of me. And it becomes
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: playing baseball is fun. Showing up to the yard every
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: day expecting to win with the boys is a lot
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: of fun. Showing up every day to put needles in
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: your elbow or you know, do some kind of rehab
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: or whatever it is, it's not fun. And you know,
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: I got to a point where it was like, man, this,
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to do this anymore.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Like this is it was just like one thing right
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: after the other. And then like right when I saw
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: a light at the end of the tunnel, that light
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: was headlights to a bus, So I I it just
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: became this like okay, when's it gonna happen again type
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: of thing, and then you know, I was able to
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: kind of get over that hump and it was like, man,
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: this is this is fun again. So I've I've I've
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: kind of come to the to my place of like, okay,
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: you know, if something were to happen again, or if
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: I can't compete, you know, it's time to go home.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: If you're not having fun, and if you can't stay healthy,
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: and if you're not doing your team a service, it's
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: probably time to pack it up.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: That that's I I agree with that because it's like
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: now is you know, once you win and at first
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: when you come into the league, like everybody wants to win.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: It's how young.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Everybody wants to win a VP, everybody wants to win
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: these awards. And it's like, well, once you kind of
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: do that, like your your your your brain has to
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: come has it really shift and find something and really
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: it's like love. It's gonna have to be love in
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: some way form or fashion, whether you love the game,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: love being around the boys, you know, just just love competing,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever it is. And I really found, like,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: you know, for me, I really just love being around
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: the boys and coming to the yard in the preparation.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: I really love preparing the game. The game itself is
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: like it's cool. You know, the game is cool when
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: we're playing the game, like it might having.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Fun sure some but you're still like I'm locked in.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: I'm locked in. But the fun part for me is
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: like when I'm taking ground balls and when I'm hitting VP,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: and like, I don't know, maybe that that that part
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: is just I just love love coming to the park
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: And so when you got to you gotta you gotta
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: find a way to not get lost. And you know, again,
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: like you win an MVP, you win a World Series
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: of cy Young, you know, you get these big contracts,
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: like you have to keep finding a way to like okay,
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: like that's not the end result that I'm looking for.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: You know, like the chase never stops until you're done, right,
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: and you know, you you see, I'm sure you've seen
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: people kind of get caught up and like, oh, I've
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: already done this, so they kind of they ease off,
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: right or you know, whatever whatever it is that they
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: were chasing they get and then it's and then it's
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: like okay, now, the chase is over, and it's like
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: you you you kind of have to run that race
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: every year. And to your point, loving this game is
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: probably going to fuel that more than anything, because if
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: you if you, if you have a bunch of money,
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: there's no there's no amount of money that's going to
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: get you to be competitive again. And and if and
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: if winning the MVP was the most important thing to you,
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: then it's gonna be hard to bring you back after
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: something like that. So you know the passion that you
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: have for this game, and just to respect you have
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: for your teammates too, knowing like, Okay, these guys are
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: still counting on me, Like I've got this stuff, but
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: like these guys.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Still need me.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: So it's like you know, you that that brotherhood kind
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: of keeps bringing you back to exactly exactly.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: So before we wrap up, I want to play a
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: game called Battery Up. I would I would say I'm
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: cold at this game, like I'm I mean leading at
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: this game. All right, this is my game. So this
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: podcast at this game, this is for you. I want
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: you to, uh, I want you to. I want to
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: see if you know about it since you don't really
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: watch guys and so you may not be all the
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: way up to all the new swings. You watch the game,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: so you'll probably know something. But look at who is that?
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Mmm mm hmmm.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: You got these guesses. I already know who it is.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: I know who it is.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: You ready?
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: No, No, that's a guest.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Though.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: How many guesses does he get? Guys?
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: Okay? Oh I got none of them?
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah you you?
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh so this is I've seen this game. I
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: don't play this game, but you.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Can guess all the age position.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: So what is that? What is that lie? So that
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: means he doesn't play for the Dodgers.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: His number, Yeah, you didn't get any of those rights,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: so he doesn't. So his number is the first category?
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Then yeah team? Then uh oh that's the vision and
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: then he was narrows it for me right exactly. Yeah, yeah,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: you got nothing, so you got you're starting with a
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: clean slate.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: You got a note like that bat.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: He gets six guesses, so you got so now you've
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: got five guesses.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: But so he's not on the Dodgers not so okay,
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: so I gotta go.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna go. You're not gonna get his number,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: You're not going to get his age.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: He's still playing. Yeah.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a sweet swing too.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: It is a nice swing.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Golly, you don't know that. Yeah, you don't watch me.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes I don't even know who I'm facing.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: I'm being I'm being completely serious. I'll go through a
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: whole lineup and be.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Like, that's what it is. That's how the league is
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: now though there's so many there's so many young guys
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: up and coming.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Is he a young guy? No, No, this guy's not.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, you definitely have. You definitely have.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Oh no, you have, dude, I'll be honest.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, all right, so I help you.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: He's that he's with the Astros.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Oh Alvarez.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he'd have a few less homers if I didn't
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: face them.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: That he That is a that is a you're not
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: very very powerful swing.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: That is a very powerful swinging up. They can't stump
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: me on this. So sorry, guys, I mean, nice try,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: but uh, you got him though, you got him.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: I was I was stumped.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Like he does.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: Like once it wasn't Fridday.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: They wouldn't put Freddie in here because that would be
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: that would be too easy. But anyways, right now, so
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: but Anyways, my man sell it. Thanks for coming on
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: the show.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: You know, I feel like we have a special bond
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: obviously from playing this beautiful game of baseball together, winning
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: the World Series together. I feel like we're like, quote unquote,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: we did, We're going to do life together because you know,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: through this game you build so many relationships with people,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: and you know, the kids and seeing seeing everybody. I
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: want to see Ryland. How old is he now?
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: He turns fifteen and two days and he's.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: I don't remember the other baby's names, but Ryland was
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: always there.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Well, Ryland was the only he was the only one
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: you know that that you saw. I guess when Brace
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: was born in eighteen, like late in the year, so
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: he would you have only met him in spring training?
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: And then Camden he's five. Yeah, three boys. Man, It's
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: it's crazy.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: That's like that's that's a household. Do they all they
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: all play like yes, sports.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: My youngest son is more of like swimming, riding his bike,
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: like more adventurous type of stuff. But the other two
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: it's it's baseball, it's basketball, pickleball, golf, every everything.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: We got everything outside.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: You and you're gonna like how much longer you want
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: to play? Do you know, do you want to be
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: the forty two year old you know what I'm saying,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: forty three up there or you don't know yet.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: If if my arm stays together and I can still
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: go out there and compete, I'm ill. I'll play until
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: someone says they don't want me on their teams. So
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: I mean and and maybe that might be a little exaggerated,
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: but I again, like I had, I had this game
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: and then I got it taken away. I just got
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: it back last year, so you know, so it's like
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm this is fun for me again, and I
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: kind of want to do this, you know, if I'm
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: serviceable when someone thinks I can do it and no
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: crazy injuries, I'm in.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: All right, brother, Yes sir, Well, I will see you
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: at the field again. Thanks for coming. Tell Breed tell everybody,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: I said, Well, hopefully she got to watch so but anyways,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: we'll see you guys next time on on base