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Football at Four: Going Inside Eagles Rookie Campbell's Potential Role · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Ninety seven to three. ESPN presents the Sports Bats with
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  Mike Gill. It's time for Football at four with Adam Kaplan,
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  platforms is. Here and, hey first week Of eagles training
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  camp is in the. Books some storylines Including John, campbell
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  the first round, pick his first action out, there And
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  Vic fangio did speak and, said, yeah it was good
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  to have him out. There is it a surprise that
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  he was out? There let's bring In Adam Caplan now
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  for Today's football at four is The eagles have practice
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  twice so far this, week will walk through, today they
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  will practice, Tomorrow they'll be off On. Sunday but are
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  we surprised That campbell was out on the. Field they
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  had said sometime In august well by my watch, Here,
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  adam it Is july twenty, fifth that's Before.
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  Speaker 2: August, Yeah mike gould be with you, ya and, that by,
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  way my welcome music is of, course with Hul cogan passing, Away,
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  Mike SO i know you're a big wrestling guy LIKE i.
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  Am So Terry blail passes away at seventy one years oldie.
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  Straight so we just wanted to mention that as we
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  go through. Here so, yeah let's get back To Jihad campbel,
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  Right So Jahad Campbell mike was at least a few
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  weeks ahead of. Schedule that that's great that he's on
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  the field and he's already running with the second. Team
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  it's not like they had a lot of inside. Backers
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  Nikobe dean obviously going to be out a. While With
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  campbell being able to, practice they have just six inside
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  backers and two of them are undirected free, agents So
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  Dash gatt last year un directed free agent Lands sticks
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  and this. One they're not really in the rotation. Yet so,
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  Yeah campbell's already gett. Wrapped, Yeah i'm definitely surprised it's
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  a good injury note From fangio because he didn't know
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  it until. Recently AS i understand. It so, yeah, Uh
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  now we'll talk in the segment About campbell's, role potential,
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  role and everything that goes along with. It but that's
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  a big Story mike For trene. Camp none of us
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  were expecting, it.
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  Speaker 1: Right the fact that he is out. There can he
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  now because he got out there to start training? Camp
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  how does that factor in His week one availability against
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  The Dallas cowboys On thursday?
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  Speaker 2: Night, now the, Question mike isn't Worth he's going to
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  be available that that's that's already been, Answered mike. Case
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  it's now the question is what's going to be his?
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  Role because he missed their entire offseason. PROGRAM i watched
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  him take metal. Reps he's being cross trained a little
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  bit with the edge, group but he's going to be
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  inside linebacker for. Now the question Is, mike and we're
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  going to learn a lot more once they they should
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  be in pasted sometime next. Week now you have to
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  the acclamation period is five. Practice you can have contact
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  through five, practices but sometime late next, week if they choose,
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  to they can be in pads and that's when you're
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  really going to know exactly where he's. At if he's
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  in Pads, mike it's not, again it's not a question
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  even right, now that he's gonna be ready for week.
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  One it's and we talked about this On inside of
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  The birds, recently even before we knew he'd be ready
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  to start practicing once he got. Cleared it's how far
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  behind is he going to be from a metal, standpoint because, Remember,
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  mike he's relatively new to inside back. Er you remember
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  he went To alabama to the edge, rusher so he's
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  only been really doing this this position three. Years so
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  you can't just assume like he's going to pull Off
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  Zach bonds type of. Situation we know he's a FRESH runp.
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  Pick he's got to. Play if he's a FRESH runp.
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  Pick if he's if they think he's absolutely ready to,
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  go be a start of week, One, mike there won't
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  be much of a. Discussion he'll be. Starting that's the
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  way it. Works you don't hold players. Back remember do
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  you remember the talk last summer When Coignea mitchell was
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  running with the. Threes you might remember WHAT i told.
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  YOU i, Said, mike if he's ready to, start he's
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  going to start week. One there will be not much
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  of a discussion, internally first round picks start if they're
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  ready to. Play, yeah AND.
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  Speaker 1: I guess you know one thing With Johan campbell was you,
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  know is he just inside? Linebacker is he a guy
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  that they could deploy all over the. FIELD i guess
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  now that he is on the field for training, game
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  we can start finding that out sooner than.
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  Speaker 2: Later, Yeah, NO i. Know fanrew, said, well you, know
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  it depends on other. PLAYERS i would say this something
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  we've talked about inside The birds over years is but
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  when we talk to coaches around The National Football, league
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  they love inside backers who can, rush And campbell can.
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  Rush it's you could line them up as a, joker
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  which means a movable player on. Defense So Jim johnson do,
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  this the late Great Jim. Johnson you can line them
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  as an edge. Player you could rush them from an inside, Standpoint,
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  Mike there's a lot you can do with, them and
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  you don't find inside backers built like. This so we'll
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  learn a little bit more once it gets clear for.
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  Contact we assume he is, already but we'll not learn
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  for sure next week once they go into. Pads i'm
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  interested to See. Mike. Now part of it we have
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  to understand because he because of the miss time in
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  the off. Season he's. Behind he's behind in terms of
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  being on the field and. Learning so maybe they don't
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  give him the kitchen stick right, now maybe they're maybe
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  they don't give them a. Ton they have to build
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  up his learning process and that's, Coming. Mike that's certainly
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  gonna come every day he. Practices but When i'm there,
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  Tomorrow mike and that practice At, Tenny i'm in novercare
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  in the. Heat by the, way it's going to be
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  a scorcher this. Weekend i've got to See. Mike you,
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  know we're only free practices in. TOMORROW i look forward
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  to seeing how they actually use him and that that
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  could be. Coming they could do more.
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  Speaker 1: Of, Them, yeah and they did Say Vic fangier was
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  asked on what's Today, friday he was asked On. Thursday you,
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  know he was seen working out With Jeremiah, washburn who
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  is the defensive end outside, linebacker kind of the edge rush.
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  Coach Uh, SO i guess that gives you a little
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  insight that maybe they want to kind of use him
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  in that role as. WELL i definitely think that's an
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  emerging story that would be. Interesting and then there's the
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  other guys at him Because Nakobe, dean who will get
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  to in just a moment here if he's not ready to.
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  Go Jeremiah trotter's role with this. Team is he in
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  the mix to start there or do they look at
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  him more of a backup.
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  Speaker 2: Guy, well here's the. Thing right, Now trotter is ahead Of.
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  Campbell but WHAT i always tell, people you chart everything
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  you read into. Nothing you wait until the situation plays itself,
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  out wait at least a, week and then we'll make
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  a little bit more of a judgment or an. Evaluation
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  But trotter right now is running with once because he's been.
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  There this is the second year of the. Defense this
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  Is campbell's, First he's had his first practices in the.
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  Scheme so we have to let this thing roll a little,
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  Bit mike and just. See but let's not Forget, mike
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  and this does. Matter it, matters really a lot to
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  the front Of trotter's a fifth round, Pick campbell's the.
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  First do the. Math If campbell's ready week one to,
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  Start he's going to. Start that's just the way it.
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  Works whether fans won't accept it or. Not i've covered
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  since twenty seven. Years i've learned the hard, way, thinking,
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  oh WHAT i see early might tell me what's going to.
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  Happen not, really you got to let the situation play
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  out and we'll get the small Mom and also it's very.
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  Intriguing But campbell's so much bigger physically Than trotter's really
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  smart and, instinctive and that does. Matter But campbell's a
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  first round, pick way bigger, Physically he's got better. Versatility
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  it's just he's got more to. Him But campbell's got
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  to prove it. First that's where we are With campbell right.
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  Speaker 1: Now, okay so you Mentioned. Minden what is his, role
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  if any on this? Team is he a? Guy do
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  you think he? Is he makes the team number?
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  Speaker 2: ONE i guess he's making. It, yeah that's a lot
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  that'll make. It he's a fifth round. Pick how he
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  doesn't he. RARELY i have to go back when he
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  had personnel. Control the first year at how he had
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  full personnel control would be twenty. Sixteen he had share
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  control with The Chip. Kelly it's starting. Sixteen he's had
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  it ever. Since i'd have to, look he's ever cut
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  a fifth round pick after his first training. Camp but
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  it's highly unlikely That mondon would be cut him matter
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  of how he. Performs but the thing is he's got better,
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  length he's a little bit better athlete And Trot junior
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  And Trot. Junior what we put this out last year
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  was doing really well in practice and training in the
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  in the regular Season mike in their regular season. Practice
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  but this is a big camp for. Him this is
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  his second year with the. Club modin's a, rookie he's
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  got good, Length national, champion and there's some good things
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  you like about. Him now he's another, guy like the
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  WORD i heard On bonden is why he dropped to the.
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  Fifth his frame is a little bit, wiry like he
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  needs to put a little bit of weight on, him
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  which is. Fine he, probably depending what he spoke, to
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  could be could have gone in the fourth. Round you
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  just think obviously got a a good value with him
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  in the. Fifth i'm not sure about his injury. History
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  but the question for him would, be let's say week, one,
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  right It's, bonn It's, campbell It's trot. Junior he would
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  dress if they dress for inside, backers to mean that
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  that's probably where this is headed right. Now but again
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  we've only had two. Practices who knows what you can't
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  roll out mind and move him way. Up you just,
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  again we're way too, early but he shouldn't be anything
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  worse than their fourth inside backer this.
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  Speaker 1: Season all, right then there's the starter who Is Nakobe.
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  Dean what happens to him when he is cleared later this?
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  SEASON i think this one is going to be an
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  interesting interesting to see what your answer is, here because
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  this was not a you, know it's not like he's
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  coming back from a hamstring injury or a broken. Leg
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  this is a pretty gruesome major.
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  Speaker 2: Injury so Torm ptel at ten and was probably WHEN
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  i first started in the Covering League my first full
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  year was two. Thousand was not only a season. Ender
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  some guys simply did come back from it or b
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  they were never the. Same and it's really a year
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  and a half to your process to feel relatively. Normal
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  the typical rehabit seven to nine, months not five to
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  six for AN. Acl it's. Longer we Have we've had
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  former head athletic or system athletic trainers on to talk
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  about this. Injury it's better than medical science has improved
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  the last couple of, decades but it's a tough. Deal
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  Remember deed had. SURGERY i believe In. February I'm i'm
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  sure If i'm not mistaken somewhere around that. Area it's just, Tough.
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  MIKE i know he looks, great but we told people
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  last year we kind of laughed When Sidney brown looked
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  good running report some of the reporters who didn't know
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  any better, bloggers they would get The eagles. Practice oh,
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  boy let's like he'll be ready for the. Season, no,
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  folks he's running in a straight. Line he's not allowed to.
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  Practice just relaxed a little. Bit it's nice that he's
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  able to. Run Sydney brown was not even close to
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  being ready for the start of, season as we all would.
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  Learn so now let's say he's Back mike week four or.
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  Five in terms of me getting the starting job, back
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  it comes down to, this a what does he look?
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  Like is he fifty percent of what he wants? Was
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  if he's able to play, football that's one, Thing but
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  is he able to start a? Game is he able
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  to play sixty five to seventy percent of? Snaps they
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  got to get through. That they don't know what this looks,
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  like and that's the. Problem LIKE i, Know fandrews kind
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  of sort of hinted that he'll get his job. Back,
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  well it's easy to say in the, Offseason, mike it's
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  a lot harder to say five or six months from.
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  There we got to understand that we got a long
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  way to go. Here For, nacoby it's just a shame
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  because he was playing the lights. Out was he a pro?
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  BOWLER i can't. REMEMBER i don't remember where what his situation, Was, mike.
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  Speaker 1: The kobe didn't have to look that. ONE i don't know.
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  THAT i don't think he made The Pro bowl last,
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  Year BUT i Thought fangio. Certainly you Know fangio's truth.
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  Serum you just ask him. Questions he gives you the real.
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  Answers and he was, asked are they underestimating when he
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  can come? Back he, SAYS i don't think. So and
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  the ass do you think he'll be around to start the,
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  season and he said to start the. Season, no he's
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  not gonna be around for the start of the. Season
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  so then right now you're Giving campbell a chance to
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  get the. Snaps and Once campbell gets on the, FIELD
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  i would, Imagine, adam your hope is that he plays
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  well enough that he doesn't come off the field one.
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  Speaker 2: Hundred, percent, Right. Mike you said it very well when
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  it Was Vert. Bolden if a guy, lost if a
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  guy got, hurt he get his job. Back coaches don't care.
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  Anymoere they're trying to. WIN i mean they. Don't they.
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  Know it would have to be discussion With. Howie it's
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  it's like it would be a discussion With. Siriani it
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  would be discussed With Bobby, king who coaches the inside.
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  Backers fangio, obviously and they make. It they make a,
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  decision but they defer To, vicker who they think is
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  the better. Option one thing About fangio is, right AND
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  i know talking to people over the years who work
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  with him in front, Offices vic is. Headstrong he will
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  stand up to like he'll tell you what he, thinks
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  and if he has to fight for, himself he'll do.
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  That he doesn't agree with the gentle. Manager so that
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  on your on your question and your, Point, mike which
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  is well. Taken If campbell's playing lights, out they're not
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  taking them. Out it's just, AGAIN i know the way this.
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  Is vick is very diplomatic in the spring about. It he,
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  WAS i, mean he's nice about. It But, mike you
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  just nailed. It in all, sports you can lose your.
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  Speaker 1: Job it's just the way it, is and especially to
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  a number one. OVERALL i mean first.
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  Speaker 2: Run he wasn't the first truk, over but he's a
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  first runp pick, right right, Right so, yeah, Absolutely, mike
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  you got. IT i. DON'T i have nothing else to
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  have because you just nailed.
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  Speaker 1: It all. Right adam kapled everybody a look At John,
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  campbell which was really one of the big. STORIES i, Mean, Queenion,
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  Mitchell Cooper dejen will look more at that next, week
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  as we'll see if over the weekend those stories continue to,
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  materialize But campbell being on the field probably one of
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  the best stories of the see or First, yes a
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  big time to get him out there to, start and
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  of Course football at four will have it all next
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  On eagles training. Camp Thanks, adam thank, you