Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / Dr. Andy Anderson, Chief Medical and Quality Officer at RWJBarnabas Health
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- 0:31This is Laura Dedo with the Becker's Healthcare Podcast.
- 0:33I'm thrilled today to be joined by Dr. Andy Anderson,
- 0:36chief Medical and Quality Officer at R W J Barnabas Health. Dr. Anderson,
- 0:40it's a pleasure to have you on the podcast today.
- 0:42Thank you very much, Laura.
- 0:44Now I'm excited for our conversation.
- 0:46It'll definitely be a great one talking a lot about some of the key priorities
- 0:50you're looking at today and where R W J Barnabas is headed.
- 0:52But before we dive into the broader discussion,
- 0:55can you tell us a little bit more about yourself and your background?
- 0:58Absolutely. I'm a,
- 1:00a general internist and continue to see patients as a,
- 1:05a primary care physician and currently serve at R W J Barnabas Health as
- 1:09the Chief Medical and Quality Officer.
- 1:12I'm responsible for our patient outcomes related to to
- 1:17quality, uh, safety and, and patient experience and,
- 1:21and also steer our relationship, um,
- 1:24with our academic partner, Rutgers University, which translates into our,
- 1:28our pipeline of trainees as well as our, our research mission.
- 1:34That's fantastic to hear. And you know,
- 1:36given all of those responsibilities both on the health system side as well as
- 1:40that relationship with Rutgers, what are some of your top priorities today?
- 1:43What are you spending most of your time on?
- 1:46Yeah, today my mindset is very focused on, on our,
- 1:51on our people. Um, and when I say people, I mean both our employees,
- 1:55including our nurses and doctors as, as well as the, the patients and,
- 1:59and the communities that we serve. We have, um, you know, emerged out of,
- 2:04of covid in, in a better way in terms of being,
- 2:08I think more organized and, and integrated as a health system.
- 2:13But there's still quite a bit of, of healing to do, and there's quite a bit of,
- 2:16of pent up demand for, for patient care needs.
- 2:19And some of those are related to managing chronic diseases.
- 2:22Some of those are related to,
- 2:24to procedures and surgeries that that need to be done.
- 2:27And what we're really after is getting to those very,
- 2:30very best patient outcomes and,
- 2:32and making sure our patients are cared for in the best possible way.
- 2:37That the experience in our,
- 2:38in our hospitals and in our practices is at the highest possible level,
- 2:43and ultimately that they achieve the,
- 2:45the best possible health in terms of how we deliver healthcare
- 2:49to them and how we help prevent people from getting sick. Um,
- 2:54so a lot of great focus on what I'll call, um,
- 2:57population health where we are out there actively promoting,
- 3:02you know, healthy behaviors and,
- 3:04and looking very closely at social determinants of health to make sure our,
- 3:08our patients in our communities are, are healthy.
- 3:13Absolutely.
- 3:13I love that and certainly is such an important aspect of serving the community.
- 3:17Well, you know, when you look at, uh,
- 3:19some of the different ways that you're going about the prevention side of things
- 3:23in, in population health, what's worked really well for you?
- 3:26I know that's something that a lot of hospitals and health systems are trying to
- 3:30figure out in their own communities and would just love to hear if there's,
- 3:33you know, a, a project or initiative that you feel like, um,
- 3:36has been really successful.
- 3:39Yeah, we've worked hard to make, um, access, you know,
- 3:42easier and when patients need to be seen, um,
- 3:47for healthcare conditions. And, and some of those are,
- 3:49are chronic conditions like diabetes and high blood pressure, you know,
- 3:53ensuring that that patients can easily access our services and,
- 3:56and some of that is having flexibility in terms of,
- 4:00of having telemedicine available, for example.
- 4:04But some of that's just simply making sure there's,
- 4:06there's appointments available on the other side of that, there's a lot of,
- 4:10of outreach and, and education and,
- 4:12and some of that is through standard methods such as, you know,
- 4:16sending emails and texts and, and some of that is providing, you know,
- 4:19forums for communities to engage in questions and answers related to,
- 4:24to chronic health conditions. And, and, and all this too,
- 4:27I think is very strongly promoted by the, the branding of, of,
- 4:32of healthier communities, um, and making sure that,
- 4:35that we as a health system are,
- 4:36are out there in our communities being the voice of, of health and,
- 4:41and providing, you know, easy access and, and and just very clearly,
- 4:46um, you know, managing our, our patient populations in,
- 4:50in a very proactive way so that everyone feels comfortable coming to us to, to,
- 4:54to find better health as well as better healthcare.
- 4:59Got it. That makes a lot of sense. You know,
- 5:00and is definitely a great way to look at it. Now when you are,
- 5:03are looking at the future,
- 5:05how do you see the health system evolving over the next two to three years?
- 5:08What do you see as changing and really, um, becoming, uh,
- 5:12better over time?
- 5:14Yeah, we're becoming more integrated, um,
- 5:18and more efficient because we're more integrated and,
- 5:21and all that really centers around coordinated care for,
- 5:24for patients and in our communities.
- 5:26And part of how we're working hard at that is becoming more
- 5:30regionalized and more service line oriented. And that creates, you know,
- 5:35connectivity for our patients such that when a,
- 5:38when a patient is in one of our hospitals or in one of our practices,
- 5:42they have the, the whole armamentarium of, of specialists and, and services,
- 5:47things like laboratory services and, and radiology services, et cetera,
- 5:52that will enable our patients to get every aspect of their healthcare. And,
- 5:56and again, as we talked about before, some of that is, is reacting and,
- 6:00and treating acute diseases. Some of that is, is more proactive and,
- 6:03and doing things like screening for breast cancer, colon cancer and,
- 6:07and ensuring our patients are, are getting, you know, access to the,
- 6:11to the best possible care.
- 6:12So as we become more integrated in more efficient,
- 6:16it's gonna be easier for patients to access and and navigate our services. Um,
- 6:21one of our other very big initiatives is installing, um,
- 6:25epic as our single electronic health record.
- 6:28Historically we had multiple health records and,
- 6:30and now we have a unified record that that centers on the patient, um, and,
- 6:35and really provides that coordinated, integrated care that,
- 6:38that our patients all deserve.
- 6:41That's great to hear, and I know all of those areas just are,
- 6:44are a huge undertaking,
- 6:45whether it's looking at becoming more integrated and really, um,
- 6:49connecting the dots there for, for the patient and the patient experience,
- 6:53and then epic installs is certainly a huge undertaking as well. Yeah.
- 6:57From the c clinical leadership side, you know,
- 7:00what does it take to make sure that goes as smoothly as possible?
- 7:04How do you make sure, um, from the people perspective, pe you know,
- 7:08your team understands why you're making these changes, um,
- 7:11and how important it is to really buy in and, um, you know,
- 7:16move in this direction that'll be better for patient care overall?
- 7:19Yeah, a lot of that is centered on what I'll call best practices and,
- 7:23and doing things, you know, the right way consistently. So, you know,
- 7:28having more of a standard operating model that incorporates those best
- 7:32practices. Um, you know,
- 7:33one of the ways that that epic is powerful is it enables you to,
- 7:37to deliver that in the electronic, you know, health record forum. Um,
- 7:41part of,
- 7:42to your question about change management is we want to be
- 7:47the absolute best at what we do. And, and so getting to that gold standard,
- 7:52getting to that,
- 7:53that best practice is something that everyone I think pretty easily rallies
- 7:58around and, and understands. And the other, you know,
- 8:01thing that we've gotten better at to the question before is,
- 8:04is sharing best practices and making sure that are different leaders at
- 8:09our different sites of service or talking to each other,
- 8:11they're learning from each other. When something goes well,
- 8:14we share that or vice versa, if something doesn't go well,
- 8:18we share that too as a, a lesson learned so that that others cannot, you know,
- 8:23have that happen. Um, again. And so, you know,
- 8:27that communication, that integration, that,
- 8:30that sort of interweaving of our different sites of service so that we are truly
- 8:35performing at the highest possible level at,
- 8:37at every sites of services is what we're after. And,
- 8:40and so in terms of change management, people do get excited about that. They,
- 8:44they want to be the best, you know, we want to be the,
- 8:46the number one health system, um, in New Jersey, which I believe we already are,
- 8:51but we want to continue to get better and better such that our patients and
- 8:55communities get the best possible outcomes.
- 8:58I love that. I think it's such an important mission and definitely, uh,
- 9:01makes a lot of sense as a healthcare organization. Now,
- 9:05before we wrap up our conversation,
- 9:07I was wondering if you could share with us one change that you,
- 9:10your team has made in the last year that has really yielded some great results.
- 9:14Yeah, we've gone, I would say back to the bedside, you know,
- 9:18during covid there was less opportunity to,
- 9:23to have the face-to-face interaction that really makes us all human beings.
- 9:27And we have purposefully as leaders in our health system, for example,
- 9:31gone back to the bedside. So we have senior leader rounds, um,
- 9:37once a week and,
- 9:38and most of our hospitals where our senior team is going to the unit
- 9:43in the hospital meeting with the, the staff, the nurses, the the technicians,
- 9:48um, the, the individuals who are delivering care at the frontline,
- 9:51listening to them, understanding what's working well, what's not working well,
- 9:56solving some of their problems if there's issues with the supply chain or
- 10:01there's issues with the electronic health record not working as, as well as,
- 10:05as it should. We, we listen to those issues and, and go back and,
- 10:08and put fixes in. The other part of that that's very powerful is,
- 10:12is going to the,
- 10:13the bedside of the patient and actually rounding on patients and listening to
- 10:17patients. And again,
- 10:19individuals will present issues that we can solve real time and or their
- 10:24themes that, that emerge from those conversations.
- 10:27So getting back to the,
- 10:29the frontline to the bedside is so powerful for, for leaders to,
- 10:34to help understand what is happening and to help in turn fix
- 10:38issues that, that are happening and,
- 10:40and really spreading those best practices across our whole system.
- 10:45I love that it sounds like such a simple thing to do, but certainly, you know,
- 10:48it makes that connection and can make everything, um,
- 10:51seem just a bit more easy to, to make that change and,
- 10:55and be better for the patients as well as your teammates.
- 10:57Have you seen or heard any feedback from, uh,
- 11:00since you started doing more of these bedside rounds as senior leadership team?
- 11:04Yeah. The, the staff on our hospital units love it.
- 11:09Um, they love the opportunity to interact with,
- 11:12with senior leaders and to really be heard and, and, you know,
- 11:16as we're solving problems,
- 11:18some of them are simple things that we can solve within the hour.
- 11:20Some of them are, are longer term problems. It,
- 11:23it really yields those results that makes everyone feel better about their
- 11:27workplace and, and then having the, the patient-centeredness and,
- 11:31and really having our patients be truly listened to is,
- 11:34is just very powerful and it, it brings us all back to why we do what we do and,
- 11:39and that's to get to those absolute best outcomes for our patients.
- 11:44Absolutely. Well, Dr. Anderson,
- 11:45thank you so much for joining us on the podcast today.
- 11:47This has been a really fun and interesting conversation and I look forward to
- 11:50connecting with you again soon.
- 11:52Thank you very much.
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