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- 0:00Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow morning. For Friday, December eighth, I'm your host
- 0:04Tom Moore. The cotton Ball game against Missouri in twenty one days, the
- 0:07game against Michigan in three hundred and fifty eight days. Joined live for the
- 0:12special live episode with Tony Ritiman at Buckehuddle dot com. We just got a
- 0:17chance to hear from Marvin Harrison Junior about the heistand trophy that the Litany Call
- 0:21award, his plans for the Cotton Bowl, his plans for the a twenty
- 0:25twenty four NFL Draft, the transfer of his former high school quarterback Kyle McCord,
- 0:31former Ohio State quarterback Kyle McCord. So many different places to start,
- 0:37I guess let's start. Let's start with the question everyone is asking. Okay,
- 0:41is Marvin Harrison going to be back for the Cotton Bowl? And is
- 0:45Marvin Harrison going to be back for the twenty twenty four college football season.
- 0:49Weed he doesn't know. He does know. He will be at the Cotton
- 0:52Ball. He's definitely going to the game. Whether or not he plays is
- 0:55a separate decision, but he did say same year, yes, yes,
- 0:59he is not decided whether or not. He is turning pro and he gave
- 1:03some very interesting reasons as to why he is undecided. Well, don't don't
- 1:07keep us in suspense. Basically, he wants to beat Michigan and he wants
- 1:12to win the Big Ten. And somebody asked about the financial side of things
- 1:15of coming back in the NIAL that can help. He said, finance,
- 1:19You know, financial won't be the decision. It's do I want to come
- 1:23back bad enough to beat Michigan win a Big Ten. And he didn't even
- 1:26say, like the National Championship is always a goal, but they haven't even
- 1:29made it, so he doesn't even think about that. He just is focused
- 1:32on beating Michigan winning the Big Ten. Those will be the two deciding factors.
- 1:36And he did say if I choose to go forward into the NFL,
- 1:40that's gonna be it's gonna be something he's gonna have to live with, like
- 1:42that's something he's going to take with him, because he did say he did
- 1:46agree that his career is incomplete without those two things, especially having his dad
- 1:51played Indianapolis for so long. The assumption when he signed with the Ohigh station,
- 1:55oh you just you played Indianapolis every year for the victim championship. He
- 1:59never got to do that. So there are some significant reasons why he is
- 2:04torn right now. And I think the natural reaction from everyone is going to
- 2:07be yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure. He is
- 2:13not someone who has to jump to the NFL to you know, get his
- 2:17family out of grinding poverty or anything like that. You know, that's I
- 2:22think less of a concern with Nil. Now. You know, if you're
- 2:27at the point where you're a top five NFL draft pick, you're probably doing
- 2:30just fine with Nil in college if that's something you would want to prioritize.
- 2:35So it's not quite as laughable as it might have seemed a couple, you
- 2:38know, ten years ago to say something like that. My default assumption is
- 2:45that when they you know, he said, they really haven't sat down and
- 2:46talked about it yet. And my default assumption is when, and I'm sure
- 2:51you know, if you put biggest odds on this, the biggest odds for
- 2:54Marvin Harrison sits out the Cotton Bowl and turns pro is probably about I don't
- 3:00know what minus twenty five hundred give her take. I was gonna say twelve
- 3:04hundred, just twelve hundred, just pretty nice. Yeah, well maybe maybe
- 3:07if you parlay those two things together. Yes, but I mean it's possible.
- 3:13I don't I'm certainly not expecting it, but it's certainly possible because with
- 3:16his sort of unique family situation, you do have the luxury of choosing to
- 3:21stay. And I'm sure he would do just fine nil wise if he chose
- 3:25to stay for another year as well, if he chooses. If he does
- 3:29choose to stay, he's gonna have a different quarterback throwing to him. You
- 3:32asked him which quarterback that was going to be. I thought it was a
- 3:36great question. Rather disrespectfully, he didn't answer it, but he is,
- 3:40you know, you know it's not going to be his former teammate and former
- 3:44high school teamate, former college teammate, comic coord What did he have to
- 3:46say about commic cord Kritsford obviously said, it's sad to see him go,
- 3:50and he's going to continue to support wherever he goes and a friend for life,
- 3:53that sort of thing, And he said the same thing. I mean,
- 3:55they've been through a ton together over the years and they've always been close,
- 4:00and Marve said many times before, he's my quarterback, he's my friend,
- 4:03and that's obviously going to continue on past this. And yes, I
- 4:09did ask him who's going to be the quarterback next year? And he said
- 4:11he didn't know. I don't know if he's lying to us now, which
- 4:15of these lies from Marvin or truly lies? We don't know, but hey,
- 4:18you got to you got to shoot your shot, you know, so
- 4:21to speak and see what he's gonna say. But I don't I don't know
- 4:26that anybody knows that question. So it's not an unfair question. Now,
- 4:30don't worry about that. It was totally fair. But yeah, obviously gonna
- 4:32miss Kyle accord. And you know, but that's that's the way of life
- 4:38now in college football. And he said talked about everybody has to make their
- 4:41own decision that is best for them in their individual situations, and that's what's
- 4:45going on. Somebody asked about, you know, what does it say about
- 4:46the culture, and he's like, basically, players just have to decide what's
- 4:49best for them and head towards that, right. And you know, I
- 4:54think with Kyle McCord leaving, you wonder if you go back to was it
- 4:59in the the twenty twenty one season, Kyle McCord played in five games that
- 5:03year. If Kyle McCord had played in four games and had two years of
- 5:08eligibility left, you might be having a whole different conversation right now than you
- 5:13you would have, you know, than you are with twenty twenty four being
- 5:15his last season, because you wanted to be guaranteed the starting spot, because
- 5:19if it's your last season, you want to be the starter, because you
- 5:23don't want to go into your last season with the potential of the NFL Draft
- 5:26and all that kind of stuff coming up, you know what, sixteen months
- 5:30from now. You don't want to go into the twenty twenty four season with
- 5:33uncertainty because this is something he's worked his whole life for, so it's you
- 5:38know, from his end of things, it's understandable. I think, you
- 5:42know, everyone can say that this is like, oh boy, everything's going
- 5:45to hell right now, and I think you're seeing people making the exact same
- 5:49decisions they would have made ten, twenty, thirty, forty years ago if
- 5:54that was an option, if you had the option to transfer and not have
- 5:56to sit out a year, don't I don't think this is a kid these
- 6:00days thing as much as a college football has changed, and you know,
- 6:04you're that's sort of one of those realities of that situation. Yeah, I
- 6:09think this is the world we're living in now, so you just have to
- 6:12stop trying to make excuses for it or demonize it. It's just it is
- 6:16here now, the old it is what it is. So I want to
- 6:19know the team up north kept being brought up, and how much do you
- 6:27think the Roman Wilson comments bothered Marvin Harrison And I just thinking about this after
- 6:33the interview session, that would have been that would have been a good question
- 6:35to ask, But I wasn't thinking about that about you know, thousand dollars
- 6:40suits or whatever being soft, that sort of thing, Like, clearly that's
- 6:44not going to be something that is agreeable to Marvin Harrison. No, it's
- 6:48certainly not going to be agreeable. It's certainly not the deciding factor either.
- 6:53I mean, you know this is something where he's you know, very obviously
- 6:56you come to Ohio State and the goals are you know, there is a
- 7:00big wall and inside the facility with pictures of Ohio State Michigan, and there's
- 7:03a countdown clock. It's it's very clear this is a big foot point of
- 7:06emphasis and if the game is going to be a point of emphasis, Well
- 7:10you might as well go out and win it every once in a while.
- 7:12That that's nothing new. And you know, they have stuff on the walls
- 7:15for all the Big Ten champions and boy, they haven't had to update that
- 7:17in a while. And all of you know, this is this is all
- 7:20stuff that's sort of built into the Ohio State football program and stuff that was
- 7:25sort of being taken for granted. I keep looking up at you know,
- 7:28right above our heads is the twenty nineteen Big Ten Champions banner, and there's
- 7:32a twenty twenty Big Ten Champions banner around here somewhere, and then there's a
- 7:38batch of blank wall and they think that the annual win over Michigan, the
- 7:44annual trip to Indianapolis, the annual win in Indianapolis, and the confetti and
- 7:47all that kind of stuff. They didn't even get confetti the last time,
- 7:49that's right, who cod covid. They didn't even get the Big Ten logo
- 7:55or now state logo now there did they? No? So you know,
- 7:59I can tell you when we were in Indianapolis in twenty nineteen and the confetti
- 8:03was falling, I did not think, well, I bet something crazy is
- 8:05about to happen in about three months and then something else crazy is good about
- 8:09to happen. And obviously it's not going to have confetti for at least the
- 8:11next four football seasons for various reasons. But this is, you know,
- 8:16this is something where you could you could see this being something that would be
- 8:22enough of a draw. And there was a question in the there was a
- 8:24question in the chat about whether well, first of all, there's a chat
- 8:28from Jordan Kapeler about whether I can answer the enter the transfer portal. No,
- 8:31my eligibility was exhausted decades ago. Plus there has to be interest.
- 8:37Well no, no, there doesn't have to be interested to interest to enter.
- 8:39There has to be interest to entest except to leave. There was a
- 8:45question about, you know, the chances that Mecca buchis days and that's you
- 8:50know that I think is I think there's a much more logical argument beyond just
- 8:58you know, I mean not that there's not that there's not logic behind the
- 9:01idea that Marvin Harrison could decide to stay, but you know, Meccabuka in
- 9:05terms of a personal interest, in terms of a draft stock thing, Marvin
- 9:09Harrison, draft Harrison's draft stock is not going to get materially better twelve months
- 9:13from now a Mecca Bukas could. So you know, what are the chances
- 9:16of Meccabuka stays better than Marvin Harrison? I would say, but you know,
- 9:22I mean, is that is that a coin flip to you? Is
- 9:24that better than a coin flip to you? Well? I think there are
- 9:28a number of factors. He had half the numbers he did last year,
- 9:31but obviously injuries were the main factor there in the quarterback situations, I think
- 9:37one one factor is does he want to come back and show that he can
- 9:41be an outside receiver and maybe move him into the top ten because if you
- 9:45are if you are just a slot receiver, then your draft slot is probably
- 9:50closer to Jackson Smith and Jigba, and there's nothing wrong with that. But
- 9:54we also saw what Jackson Smith and Jigba did as a as a sophomore,
- 9:58and obviously he missed his junior season but end up being with the twenty fourth
- 10:01pick something like that. Do you want to be closer to shoot to be
- 10:05closer to the tenth pick like Garrett Wilson Chris Lave at number twelve or are
- 10:11you okay and really not even knowing if you are going to be in that
- 10:16top twenty four ish range because you did miss some of the season and your
- 10:22numbers did decline and there were some drops, and so I am am I
- 10:28cautiously optimistic and he's going to return. It seems foolish to say that about
- 10:31any of these juniors making a decision, but I don't expect all of them
- 10:35to go. I think they're going to get a feedback. Yeah. I
- 10:37don't want to necessarily put a you know, final pick in on that stuff.
- 10:43But you know, if you're if you're just kind of going through Trevan
- 10:46Henderson, Marvin Harrison Junior, A Mecca a Book, A Cage Stover,
- 10:50Kate Jeffer get up another year, right? I think, technically, I
- 10:54believe he could because nineteen he red shirted. Twenty was obviously count Yeah.
- 10:58Yeah, I think he could technically come back, you know, if you're
- 11:01gonna kind of give me, you know, Nickberg, technically yeah, and
- 11:05he's declared for the NFL or for the Senior Bowl, but you that's not
- 11:09you know, with an NFL draft declaration where you can't take it back.
- 11:13I think you've got a lot of those guys that I'm not going to say
- 11:16this guy's coming back, but you know, you've sort of heard some rumblings
- 11:20that this guy or that guy might come back. So you know, if
- 11:24you're if you're asking me to parlay all of these guys are going to the
- 11:28NFL Draft. I don't think that that cash is but I don't necessarily want
- 11:31to say this guy and this guy are both coming back for sure. So
- 11:37all right, so that's that's that. Let's let's touch real quickly on what
- 11:41Marvin Harrison Junior is going to be doing this weekend. He's going to New
- 11:43York City and again I get to wear a fancy suit Roman Wilson, we'll
- 11:48get to watch him on TV and he will be a finalist for the Heisman
- 11:52Trophy. He brought up the idea he was he was asked, you know
- 11:54who's your who would your vote before? And man, this is media training.
- 12:01Well I'm gonna be around all these guys I don't really want to,
- 12:03which is like, that is tremendous media training right there. But you know,
- 12:07this is this is a great honor for him. He's up for the
- 12:09Blittan Kof Award, He's up for the Heisman. This week. You know,
- 12:13whether he wins the Heisman or not, this is six guys. You
- 12:16know, six years in a row High State has had a Huisman finalists,
- 12:18which is wild. That has to be the longest streak I can I would
- 12:22think of in history, because they didn't used to do Hidsman finalists. That's
- 12:24a really new thing. So I would assume that that's got to be the
- 12:30longest streak of six years in a row having a Heisman finalist. But you
- 12:35know, this is something he was very excited about, and he talked about,
- 12:37you know, won't be the first time he's been to New York either,
- 12:39Well, no, and the first time he was in New York talking
- 12:43about how he went with his dad, probably the rest of his family to
- 12:46New York when they were waiting for the Pro Football Hall of Fame call and
- 12:50they did not get it. So there's better sweet memories of New York.
- 12:56Now. I don't think he expects to win the has been on Saturday.
- 13:01So this to me is one of those truthful answers where it's just an honor
- 13:05to be nominated because you are the loan non quarterback and honestly, that should
- 13:09be an award in itself. You are like what Aiden Hutchinson to one year
- 13:15or Chase Young in twenty nineteen. If you are the loan non quarterback,
- 13:18that should be another award, like they should give the Heisman. And then
- 13:22here is the loan the highest ranking non quarterback. You are the otherwise player
- 13:28of the year. And so there is definitely some pride that he takes with
- 13:33that and the politanik Off talking about all of the Ohio state wide receivers.
- 13:39I tweeted out last year when he didn't win, like all of the names
- 13:41from Ohio states wide receivers that have never won the award, the only award,
- 13:46the only one being Terry Glenn in nineteen ninety five, And there's a
- 13:50long list of names there. And I fully expect him to win the Bolittanic
- 13:54Off. He should. I think he should have won it last year.
- 13:56Jalen I had some tremendous numbers, but I think you look back and you
- 14:01realize the wrong decision was made and now maybe this is a chance to right
- 14:07it right it wrong, even though like lack Neighbors, there's some dudes who
- 14:11have been up some big numbers this year as well. But I expect him
- 14:13to win that one. Well and it you know, I mean the kid
- 14:16from Washington too has had a great season and this has made some incredible plays.
- 14:20It just this feels a little like ten years from now, if Marvin
- 14:26Harrison doesn't win the Blatantkoff Award, you're gonna look back and go, wait,
- 14:30what, Like you know, this can be one of those like bar
- 14:31trivia things. But you know how many times did Marvin Harrison Junior win the
- 14:35Blatant Koff Award? And the choices will be zero, one, two,
- 14:37or three, and no one will pick zero because everyone will go, well,
- 14:39that's not possible. Well, I remember when Ted Ginn junior and Adrian
- 14:45Peterson both came into college the same year two thousand and four, and I
- 14:48don't think anybody would have bet that neither one of those guys is gonna win
- 14:50a Heisman in there six combined years in college football. Yeah, all right,
- 14:58so we're gonna do. We're gonna run through a couple questions real quick,
- 15:03drowsy dragon, and says Chris al Lobbe stayed sometimes it happens. I
- 15:05mean that that that can happen. You know again, I think more likely
- 15:11that you see a Mecca a book would come back than yeah, and that's
- 15:15Harrison. But that's maybe the more apt comparison because well, Labbey was a
- 15:18fringe first rounder in the twenty went to one when when he was a junior
- 15:26toime. Yeah. Yeah, so he was a fringe first rounder, came
- 15:31back and turned that into the twelve pick overall. And that's really I think
- 15:35where Mcca's decision time, decision frame, the rangefinder is for him. Yeah,
- 15:41Aaron Taylor wants to know who is QB one in practice right now?
- 15:43We don't know that officially. I think my assumption would be, you know,
- 15:48based on the guys who were on the roster and based on how the
- 15:50depth chart has shook out so far this year, I would certainly assume Devin
- 15:54Brown is QB one right now. You're probably, I would guess, going
- 15:56to see both guys in the Cotton Bowl because as much as they want it
- 16:00to be, you know, Brian Day talked about this. You know,
- 16:03job one is winning the Cotton Bowl as well. You know, Job one
- 16:07A is start to figure out the twenty twenty four quarterback situation, and you
- 16:11know they could very easily have a transfer quarterback, you know, signed and
- 16:17committed before that game happens, and that sort of changes the conversation around the
- 16:19twenty twenty four quarterback position. They could very well not take a transfer quarterback
- 16:23at all, and then that makes you know, that's a different conversation about
- 16:27the Cotton Bowl in the twenty twenty four position. Yeah, and there's so
- 16:30early right now in practice that there's probably a one A in a one B.
- 16:34You're splitting up the reps pretty eavenly, I would assume, and then
- 16:37once you get into game planning and then the week of practice out there,
- 16:41it's going to be more maybe seventy to thirty type of thing. And generally
- 16:47this early part of bowl prep, even in a college football playoff, here
- 16:52you're playing more of your younger guys. You're getting your younger guys some more
- 16:56runs. So I would bet you know, Carnell take is probably getting more
- 17:00run. Noah Rodgers, maybe you know some of the some of the younger
- 17:04receivers, some of the younger July Thurman, you know, all those kind
- 17:08of guys. I think you're probably getting more run from them. As you
- 17:11know, the older guys give him a little extra time to heal up and
- 17:15all that and see what you got with some of the younger guys, because
- 17:18even in a college football playoff year, there's a certain amount of take a
- 17:22little peak forward that you get with with bowl practices. Ye. Next question,
- 17:27Next question, Micky Hannon wants to know. Uh so, how does
- 17:30get offer Carter Smith? Carter Smith, of course the transfer offensive lineman and
- 17:34oll in Tanjie High School one of the old Intenji high schools. And how
- 17:40there's only eighteen of them. This is your neighborhood, that's not mine.
- 17:42Uh yeah, I'll uh, I can tell you which Grandell High School Grandell
- 17:47High School player went too old and Tanji that's your problem. Uh one of
- 17:49the old intangis he ended up. I'm gonna say liberty and make you tell
- 17:53me I'm wrong old in Tanjie Liberty, Let's say uh. He then went
- 17:56to He then went to Indiana, took a red shirt season, started in
- 18:02the twenty twenty three season as a tackle. As a red shirt freshman,
- 18:06entered the transfer portal Ohio State. Has you know there has been Mark Givler
- 18:08has talked about the fact there'sertainly been communication there. I don't know if they
- 18:12currently have an offer out to him or not. I think, you know,
- 18:15if I was going to put in a transfer portal, crystal ball old
- 18:19in Tangi Liberty, Tony had it the whole way. Look at that an
- 18:22old and Tangi expert. If you know, if I had a crystal ball
- 18:27to put in, I would say Ohio State for Carter Smith. But I
- 18:33don't have a crystal ball, so I don't have to say that. Dang.
- 18:36Yeah, I would agree. It's almost to the point where I've almost
- 18:40moved past him because I just assumed that he's going to be part of the
- 18:42team next year. And that's that's the fun part about the transfer portal,
- 18:47when you already have the guys in and you don't even know if they're kind
- 18:51of yeah, let's next one. One of this is I think a little
- 18:56bit of a misconception for Marcy Jesse. What about the reports of limiting nil
- 18:59the thirty thousand dollar This is the show that Tony and I did earlier in
- 19:03the week, and it's not quite what the proposal was. The proposal was
- 19:07from NCAA President Charlie Baker, and this was just basically a you know,
- 19:11this is not an official NCAA proposal. Yet it's just like a proposal for
- 19:15a proposal, and the idea was splitting off, you know, offering schools
- 19:19the opportunity to split off. So it's not just one hundred and thirty three
- 19:23FBS schools, but there's you know, a separate subdivision where you could pay.
- 19:27You know, you would have to put at least thirty thousand dollars in
- 19:30a trust every year for athletes, because that would be limiting nil. That
- 19:36would be the school putting at least thirty thousand dollars and there would not be
- 19:40a limit on it, so it would only be for half, Like yes,
- 19:42yeah, for half. You know, at least half of the athletes
- 19:47would have to comply with Title nine. It's a very complicated thing. Tony
- 19:51and I did a whole show about it two days ago that you should be
- 19:55able to find on the YouTube channel. I would view it more of like
- 19:56just ending up and it has nothing to do with the actual bidding of the
- 20:00hands going on. Yeah, Mika wants to know. Is it possible the
- 20:04NCAA won't do anything to Michigan. I'm worried. I think that the odds
- 20:11that there is no further action taken against Michigan are functionally zero. I think
- 20:17there's there's been a lot of confusion out a couple different points. One is
- 20:22I haven't heard anything. It was there was all this flurry of activity,
- 20:23and then I haven't heard anything for a couple weeks. Does that mean it's
- 20:26over? The flurry of activity was the big ten, trying to figure out
- 20:30any kind of in season punishment that it felt was it was necessary or worthwhile.
- 20:37That was the punishment that you had come out where Jim Harbor was suspended
- 20:41for three games, which Michigan agreed with, which Michigan, Yes, Michigan
- 20:45chose not to appeal, chose not to appeal for whatever reason. Not to
- 20:49be confused with the self imposed three game suspension for Jim Harboro at the beginning
- 20:53of season, which is also not settled, which is also not settled.
- 20:56Yes, So the NCAA has the case from last spring, which you have
- 21:00seen sort of shorthanded as Hamburger's, which actually is COVID visitation rule violations and
- 21:06that kind of stuff. Harball has served a three game self and post suspension.
- 21:10That that is still an open matter for the nc DOUBLEA. That is
- 21:12likely going to get combined with this current case with the we're just gonna call
- 21:17it the Connor Stallions thing because we're going to shorthand everything here. That all
- 21:22is still still to come in terms of what is gonna you know, what
- 21:25is going to happen in the NCAA. That's an ongoing investigation. Then the
- 21:29NCUAA has to issue a notice of allegations to Michigan that that officially, you
- 21:33know, it's basically an official document saying we think you did all this,
- 21:36and we you know, here's what you know, here's what we can prove,
- 21:38basically, and then Michigan has ninety days to respond to that, and
- 21:41then the nc DOUBLEA can issue a punishment after that. So you're gonna have
- 21:47probably you know, if and when the notice valigation comes out, which is
- 21:51probably early twenty four, say quarter one of twenty twenty four at some point,
- 21:56then at that point you'll hear so to sort of have another flurry of
- 22:00activity, and then Michigan has ninety days to address that, and then you'll
- 22:03have another flurry of activity. This is going to drag out, and I
- 22:06know Ohio State fans are going, why why, why, you know,
- 22:08when are we going to get to the fireworks factory, and in reality,
- 22:14this is you know, the sort of damicles hanging over Michigan's head. Is
- 22:17Jim Harball going to be there? Sharon Moore remember served a self imposed one
- 22:22game suspension back in September as well, so you know the plug and play.
- 22:26Well, we'll just put this guy in here, Like, how sure
- 22:29are you that he's not going to be facing some kind of you know,
- 22:33additional whatever. How much does that impact what they're able to do in the
- 22:36portal? How much is that impact what they're able to do in recruiting?
- 22:38All this stuff is still sort of hanging out there. This is all going
- 22:42to be like a twenty twenty four conversation at this point. Well, and
- 22:45remember his COVID stuff, As you said, remember how far how long ago
- 22:51the COVID stuff was, and it's still being dealt with, all right,
- 22:55So let's see lots of surly Michigan oaks in the chat. We're just going
- 23:00to clean this up right now. So always believe in Alabama with a photo
- 23:11of Nick Sabe and holding the trophy in a nearly empty there's a hard rock
- 23:17stadium at that point, Tony and I were two of the I don't know,
- 23:21fifteen thousand or so people there for that one. Who are you guys
- 23:22picking Bama or Michigan. I kind of feel like I want to wait and
- 23:27let that game get a little closer before make sort of any sort official pick.
- 23:32I did think it was rather notable the video of Michigan. You know,
- 23:34when Michigan was announced, Michigan cheered very loudly when Alabama was announced.
- 23:40I think they were expecting not Alabama to be their opponent, and there was
- 23:44you know, I said, there was like this audible gas and people like
- 23:45that wasn't an audible gas. But I was like, how would you describe
- 23:48the reaction on that video? It was audible grown no one, No one
- 23:52yelled. Bet, there was not a lot of clapping, I mean,
- 23:55whatever it was. You know, the point spread is like very very close,
- 24:00I know, I know. So yeah, I think that's going to
- 24:02be probably a pretty good game. I think I think the final poort looks
- 24:04very interesting to me. Yeah, it should should be. Now it's been
- 24:07a while since. I don't know if it's ever happened where you have three
- 24:10good games out of the CFP. Maybe this will be the first year.
- 24:15People wondering why so many people are leaving off at higher state? Like so
- 24:19many guys are transferring out? How many players that have hit the transfer portal
- 24:25were material contributors in twenty twenty three. I've got Kyle McCord, chip train
- 24:30him and Luene Fleming that's it, right? And you what is Gyre Brown?
- 24:37No, he played like three or four games, right, Yeah,
- 24:41he's like that next tier. Yeah, I think, And I've said this
- 24:45before. You lose a third year quarterback, which is the norm at Ohio
- 24:49State. You lose a senior receiver, which is the norm. So those
- 24:52are losses that you expect to have once you recruit these guys. But everybody
- 24:59else again, I'll say that as much as people leave on their own,
- 25:03they're being told to leave. And that's around the country, maybe even more
- 25:07so. They're being told to leave. So I don't the only guy in
- 25:11there on this group that had start was a Gyre Brown. Cam Martinez had
- 25:15a couple of starts a couple of years ago, and there were there weren't
- 25:18going to be any starts for Cam Martinez in his future. And I don't
- 25:22know that anybody else that they lost, like the biggest losses in there I
- 25:26don't know that there were any in terms of there were going to be contributing
- 25:30next year. Jira Brown. I think this guy that could have played,
- 25:33but he had been passed by a freshman, and in Jermaine Matthews really including
- 25:40Calvin Simpson hunt up steam as well. Towards the end of the year,
- 25:44you sort of started to see guys who were younger suddenly appearing in games before
- 25:52some of the guys who were older, and ty Stokes was sort of in
- 25:55that same boat as well. That's that's sort of been the pattern. And
- 25:57you know, well, why hasn't this happened at Michigan yet, because this
- 26:00is a culture thing. Well, they're still playing front. You know,
- 26:03if you have the opportunity to potentially win a national championship, there's no reason
- 26:07to jump in the portal yet. If you were thinking, well, I'm
- 26:11not going to play on Cotton Bowl. I want to get a head start,
- 26:14you jump in the portal. That's yeah, that's I saw somebody link
- 26:17a story of the the top twenty five teams and the number of players already
- 26:22into portal. Obviously, the top four teams have the fewest names in the
- 26:26portal because they're still playing maybe like six total, and some guys leave because
- 26:30we know. I know I'm not going to play, so I'm going to
- 26:32jump in and then everybody else is like between Saturn and thirteen, and there's
- 26:37nobody that is clean. I think Michigan is the only team right now without
- 26:40anybody in the portal in the top twenty five. Yeah, but again you
- 26:45are playing in the playoffs, so right, Yeah, the year that Ohio
- 26:48State was in the playoffs and Michigan wasn't in whatever twenty twenty or whatever it
- 26:52was, they were like twenty five Michigan guys in the portal and no one
- 26:56for Ohio State until after the whole thing. Yeah, I think the number
- 26:57I saw twenty two guys from Michigan into portal and then one of those years.
- 27:02Yeah. I will also say Michigan does a really good, real good
- 27:04job of playing a ton of guys. Yeah, so a lot of these
- 27:08guys that are gonna be transferring at some point have played this year for Michigan
- 27:12because they do play a bunch of guys. Paul Wall says, Many Diaz,
- 27:15the DC for Penn State, will be the head coach at Duke.
- 27:18I know that was he was you know discussed. I think I think the
- 27:22framing was, you know, he's he's the favorite, or he's sort of
- 27:25emerged as the favorite, you know. The reference to the relevance to Ohio
- 27:29State there, of course, is the Jim Knowles with someone else who was
- 27:32interviewed. There also many ideas going away from Penn State is probably a good
- 27:36thing for Io State too, depending on who they bring in, depending on
- 27:37who the Yeah, depending on who they bring in. But I mean this
- 27:41is again now now Penn State. Well, if if this is how this
- 27:45plays out, Penn State will have lost both of their coordinators again because Mike
- 27:48Ersitch was invited to take his talents to South Beach and many Diaz. You
- 27:55know, if he leaves, you've lost your offensive port or defensive coordinator again.
- 28:00Feel like twenty twenty four might be one of those sort of defining seasons
- 28:03for James Franklin. Like you're you're getting to a spot where you've got two
- 28:07choices and one of them is get off the pot. And that's gonna be
- 28:11you know, a season with a lot of new stuff. It would probably
- 28:15be in James Franklin's best interest to uhbe, win some football games. They
- 28:19went and got Kansas's offensive coordinator for con I think he won some sort of
- 28:23offensive coordinator award by somebody, So I think that's a pretty good hire.
- 28:29We'll see what they do there. I don't think they'll be bringing Jalen Daniels
- 28:32with him, since you've got we've got Drew Allery. Yeah, but but
- 28:36I mean that if you've watched Kansas, Kansas runs a fun offense, like
- 28:38a fun interesting that just looks like, oh, that's probably a real pisson
- 28:42in the butt, just right as opposed to Mike yours. It's just very
- 28:45boring offense. Yeah, yeah, let's just see. Oh. I think
- 28:52we're I think we're caught up on the questions. I'm interested in answering,
- 28:59So I think we or I think we are good to go. Nothing from
- 29:02Jordan Kapler, Well he had well we addressed his question earlier. Yeah,
- 29:04Well he said he said earlier that he has been wrong a lot this year,
- 29:10So he's gonna say that Marv's going to the NFL. Oh, there
- 29:11you go. He says some things recently that I thought were very wrong,
- 29:15but that's neither here north. I have not seen him say anything wrong yet
- 29:18this year the past two or three years in fact, anyway, So that
- 29:22will do it for now. We'll appreciate you guys hopping on with us for
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- 29:30I believe is the plan talk to shastic players, possibly Ohio state coaches.
- 29:36We're not sure right now. They are out on the road right now doing
- 29:37some recruiting. So it is, you know, kind of always this is
- 29:41always kind of an awkward time of year in the building because you've got a
- 29:44bunch of people on the road, trying to do in home visits, trying
- 29:48to seal things up, close things up for the for the end of the
- 29:56recruiting recruiting cycle, and then you're trying to to get things also set for
- 30:02the bowl game. You got the transfer portal stuff going on. This is
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