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Mac & Bone Hour 3: Bill Belichick & Matt Rhule Viral Press Conferences · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.
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  Speaker 2: This is my friend Matt. Posh, come on, Posh.
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  Speaker 3: This is my friend T-Bone.
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  Speaker 2: Let's have some fun.
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  Speaker 4: I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone.
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  Speaker 2: Do it live.
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  Speaker 3: 8 o'clockers, welcome aboard, baby.
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  Speaker 2: We got another half of this show to go as
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  Speaker 2: we try to figure out what happened to the Carolina
• 0:33
  Speaker 2: Panthers we loved at a robust 3-2 after five games.
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  Speaker 2: Will we ever see that team again? We've been talking
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  Speaker 2: a lot about the college basketball openers last night. Tar
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  Speaker 2: Heel fans definitely stressed about the close call against Western
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  Speaker 2: Carolina and more rebounding issues. From the heels, we also
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  Speaker 2: have talked about a Hornets disappointing loss bone. Tight game,
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  Speaker 2: late third. We blinked. Detroit was blowing us out and
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  Speaker 2: up 23 at the end of the third.
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  Speaker 3: One of those games where I have to calculate how
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  Speaker 3: much we actually lost by.
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  Speaker 2: So 24. Plus nine. Carry the one. I believe that
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  Speaker 2: is 33 back. Is that correct?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Ding, ding, ding. You got it. Took me eight hours
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  Speaker 2: to get that. Khan seems like he's getting closer. He's
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  Speaker 2: doing five and five stuff. Kobe played, but on a
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  Speaker 2: minutes restriction. Only played 16 minutes. So it's less than
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  Speaker 2: ideal with the Hornets. And speaking of less than ideal,
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  Speaker 2: let's bring it back to the Carolina Panthers, shall we?
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  Speaker 2: Because we're going to talk to one of the absolute
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  Speaker 2: fan favorites when it comes to media members tonight. covering
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  Speaker 2: your Carolina Panthers. She is at Sheena, two E's, at
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  Speaker 2: Sheena underscore Marie three on X slash Twitter. She is
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  Speaker 2: Sheena Quick, and she joins us here to try to
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  Speaker 2: figure out what has happened to our Carolina Panthers the
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  Speaker 2: last two weeks. Sheena, how have you been? What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: I've been good.
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  Speaker 2: How are you guys? What's happening? We're doing good. We
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  Speaker 2: are doing good. I think we all needed a weekend
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  Speaker 2: where the And we got help yet again and stayed
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  Speaker 2: in first place. What do you, like, we were having
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  Speaker 2: the discussion earlier, Sheena, about like Tampa in the last
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  Speaker 2: 24 hours or so overtaking Carolina on DraftKings as the
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  Speaker 2: favorite in the division. Do you feel like, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we shouldn't be favorites anymore, should we? I feel like
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  Speaker 2: that's fair, sadly. What do you think?
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  Speaker 6: Unfortunately, it is fair, but this is the NFC South.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think anyone should be the favorite right now.
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  Speaker 6: This is just such a wacky, strange division.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you've got a valid point there. Like,
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  Speaker 2: just when you think, just like we thought about the
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  Speaker 2: Panthers at 3-2, in this division, Sheena, just when you
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  Speaker 2: think somebody's on a roll, then they'll lay an egg,
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  Speaker 2: you know?
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, exactly.
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  Speaker 6: Like, you just never know from week to week what
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  Speaker 6: these teams are going to look like. I mean, did
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  Speaker 6: you have it on your bingo card that the Bucs
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  Speaker 6: will win a game without Baker Mayfield completing any passes?
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  Speaker 2: No, no, I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I thought we would be the embarrassment. Atlanta said, here,
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  Speaker 3: watch this.
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  Speaker 6: Insane, absolutely insane.
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  Speaker 3: Sheena, what do you think of the Avero dismissal, and
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  Speaker 3: how impactful do you think a move like that could
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  Speaker 3: be within the season?
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  Speaker 6: I've always felt like this was his prove-it season. I
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  Speaker 6: think that this being his prove-it season was kind of
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  Speaker 6: overshadowed with people talking about, is this Bryce's prove-it year?
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  Speaker 6: Is this Xavier Leguette's prove-it year? For me, it's always
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  Speaker 6: been Evers' prove-it year. I feel like they gave him
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  Speaker 6: some grace with the injuries he'd had on that side
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  Speaker 6: of the ball and all the resources that had been
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  Speaker 6: spent on.
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  Speaker 1: The offensive side of the ball. This offseason, last offseason.
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  Speaker 6: They made it a point to focus on defense heavy.
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  Speaker 6: They spent a ton of money on that side of
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  Speaker 6: the ball, and week one was just abysmal for that reason.
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  Speaker 6: And I know he's had his share of injuries, especially
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  Speaker 6: with Mike Jack and J.C. Horn, but Everybody other than
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  Speaker 6: Nick Scorton was on the field.
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  Speaker 1: In week one.
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  Speaker 6: I just think that that was just, for me, it's
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  Speaker 6: always been a win more so than an if after
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  Speaker 6: that game.
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  Speaker 2: So what do you expect to change? Obviously, we're waiting
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  Speaker 2: on Mike Jack and Horn, and that can make a difference.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like there's a chance Phillips can come back
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  Speaker 2: this week. But do you expect things to look different?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't really overhaul a scheme completely, but
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  Speaker 2: do you think things will be done a bit differently
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  Speaker 2: with Todd Walsh running the show?
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  Speaker 1: I think so.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, other than just the product on the field,
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  Speaker 6: I think the product on the field is a testament
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  Speaker 6: to maybe a difference in philosophies. I was kind of
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  Speaker 6: hinted at that.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't really go.
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  Speaker 6: Into detail about it. But I do think that we
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  Speaker 6: see some more Latham Ransom. He's kind of disappeared the
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  Speaker 6: last couple of weeks, and it gave me shades of
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  Speaker 6: Jeremy Chin when Ebro first got here. You guys remember
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  Speaker 6: that guy?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So Latham Ransom being a complete ghost these last couple
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  Speaker 6: of weeks after being impactful the first part of the
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  Speaker 6: season was really interesting to me. And I do think
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  Speaker 6: that I've seen the rumors floating around that they're going
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  Speaker 6: to a 4-3. It's not completely... out of the question
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  Speaker 6: for me because they do still have the personnel to
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  Speaker 6: fill the 4-3 scheme. I don't know if they'll do
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  Speaker 6: that or if they'll try to slowly introduce it. I'm
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  Speaker 6: not sure. But what I do expect is for the
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  Speaker 6: Panthers to not have the Broncos running down their throat
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  Speaker 6: on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: That would be nice. I request that. I'm asking for that.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think of the addition of D'Angelo Hall
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  Speaker 3: to the staff? The Canales comments about not that, I'm paraphrasing,
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  Speaker 3: but that D. Hall doesn't... Questioned the status quo when
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  Speaker 3: he was here. Yeah, he questioned the status quo. What'd
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  Speaker 3: you think of the fact that he's back and what
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  Speaker 3: Canales said about that?
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  Speaker 6: I think that goes back to the philosophy. I'm not
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  Speaker 6: taking away from his football mind and him being absolutely
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  Speaker 6: intelligent and a rock star and, as JC Horn said,
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  Speaker 6: a wizard at breaking down other teams' offenses and things
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  Speaker 6: like that. I just think he was somebody that became
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  Speaker 6: a prisoner to his own stubbornness. Sometimes when, you know,
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  Speaker 6: it seems to me like he's one of those guys
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  Speaker 6: that would rather be right than successful. And that's always,
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  Speaker 6: you know, that's always slated for doom.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It comes before the fall.
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  Speaker 6: And the more that we're hearing about that staff and
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  Speaker 6: just the timing of D'Angelo Hall coming back, anyone that
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  Speaker 6: challenges that or challenges the status quo and then you're
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  Speaker 6: subsequently dismissed. And then as soon as, you know, the
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  Speaker 6: DC is going, you're back. I mean, I think that
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  Speaker 6: that says a lot.
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  Speaker 2: It did. It was almost Dave kind of wanted everybody
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  Speaker 2: to hear that. I feel like it was weird. Cause
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  Speaker 2: that was a question right at the end of the
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  Speaker 2: presser where, you know, if it wasn't a follow-up wasn't
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  Speaker 2: asked about the Angela, he might not have said that.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that felt kind of telling. It really does. Um,
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  Speaker 2: we got to go to the offensive side of the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Things ain't exactly Rosie over there. This O line is
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  Speaker 2: just making everything so hard to do. Um, Is there any,
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  Speaker 2: Brady Christensen is a guy, I know you were asking
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  Speaker 2: about that, I think it was Friday's presser. And yesterday
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  Speaker 2: he did finally say, hey, he is good to go.
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  Speaker 2: We're putting him on this, you know, open up his
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  Speaker 2: 21 day window. Like he's a dude, Sheena, where like,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like he can definitely help. The only question
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  Speaker 2: is like, he's so versatile. What position do they plug
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  Speaker 2: him in at? Because I think he could be better
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  Speaker 2: than what we got at multiple positions right now.
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  Speaker 6: Definitely at left tackle and center, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Those two, for sure.
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  Speaker 6: But the question becomes, do you move Monroe Freeling to
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  Speaker 6: his more natural position at left tackle and plug Brady
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  Speaker 6: Christensen in there? And maybe give the rookie Sam Heck
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  Speaker 6: a look at center.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be mad at that at all.
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  Speaker 6: I made a tweet during the game on Thursday, or
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  Speaker 6: maybe right afterwards, that that was the same week one
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  Speaker 6: starting line, except for Damian Lewis was out and Corey
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  Speaker 6: Bullock had stepped into his position due to injuries. But
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  Speaker 6: other than that, you know, and outside of Monroe Freeling,
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  Speaker 6: everybody else is a vet. Everybody else was slated in
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  Speaker 6: as the week one started. There's no way they should
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  Speaker 6: have put that performance up on week eight. So in
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  Speaker 6: addition to Everett's dismissal, I'm pretty sure Dave Canales lost
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  Speaker 6: a little bit of sleep trying to figure out how
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  Speaker 6: he's going to fix this offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: Big time. Big time. Trade deadline is a week from today, right?
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  Speaker 2: Is that correct, Mac?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The 10th. Do you expect the Panthers, Sheena, to be
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  Speaker 3: active at the deadline? How do you think that's going
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  Speaker 3: to play out?
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  Speaker 6: I do expect them to be active at the deadline,
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  Speaker 6: but I think a lot of that weighs on how
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  Speaker 6: the game goes on Sunday. If you get back to 500,
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  Speaker 6: even if you don't get back to 500, it's still
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  Speaker 6: a salvageable season because you're in the NFC South. So
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  Speaker 6: I do expect them to at least be in the
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  Speaker 6: market for some O-line help and maybe some cornerback help, but...
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  Speaker 6: Depending on how this Sunday goes for a lot of
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  Speaker 6: different teams, that's going to impact who's going to be available.
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  Speaker 6: Some of these teams are doing fire sales because the
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  Speaker 6: season is lost. Some teams are waiting to see what
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  Speaker 6: their status is after Sunday. Does that make them a
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  Speaker 6: buyer or a seller at the deadline? So I think
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  Speaker 6: a lot hinges on these week nine games.
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  Speaker 2: No doubt.
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  Speaker 5: No doubt.
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  Speaker 2: So Sheena, people are sending in, I know you're shocked
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  Speaker 2: by this, comments and questions about Bryce. They would like
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  Speaker 2: us to get your two cents on this. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: you've noticed it and had it going on in your mentions.
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  Speaker 2: We get a lot of this now. The people that
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  Speaker 2: disappeared while Bryce was balling, right, at a high level
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  Speaker 2: have now reappeared on our text line. And they want
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  Speaker 2: to give him a lot of blame for what's been happening.
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  Speaker 2: How much blame do you think Bryce deserves for what's
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  Speaker 2: happened the last two weeks? Or do you put it
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  Speaker 2: on the O-line exclusively? How do you feel about that?
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  Speaker 6: I think it starts at the O-line, and I don't
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  Speaker 6: want Bryce to get... feelings of discomfort that he had
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  Speaker 6: in 2023. I mean, you get sacked 60-plus times and hit,
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  Speaker 6: you know, I don't even know how many times, like
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  Speaker 6: that starts to mess with your mechanics. And I wouldn't
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  Speaker 6: say confidence, but just like how you go through your
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  Speaker 6: reads and things like that. So to act as though
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  Speaker 6: the offensive line play hasn't been abysmal and that Bryce
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  Speaker 6: is just stinking it up, I think is just super disingenuous.
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  Speaker 6: Super disingenuous.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody has seen what he can do.
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  Speaker 6: And I will say this. We're not sure what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: With the knee.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: He doesn't seem as willing to take off running as
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  Speaker 6: before because we know Bryce is an athlete. We've seen
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  Speaker 6: what he can do. And that may have been the
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  Speaker 6: difference in him making that O-line look better than it
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  Speaker 6: actually was earlier this season. Because, again, this is kind
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  Speaker 6: of the same starting offensive line. It's not a makeshift
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  Speaker 6: patchwork offensive line like, you know, like they were playing
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  Speaker 6: within the secondary on Thursday because of all the injuries.
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  Speaker 6: This is who you guys have slated to be the
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  Speaker 6: starters week one, you know, with the exception of Damian Lewis.
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  Speaker 6: For me, I know that all the stats that Bryce
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  Speaker 6: was leading the league in, one of the stats that
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  Speaker 6: he was leading the league in was he was the
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  Speaker 6: most pressured quarterback. He was performing in spite of that pressure.
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  Speaker 6: That's not even a category that you want him to
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  Speaker 6: have to thrive in. You don't want to have to
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  Speaker 6: be under pressure all the time. And eventually that weighs down.
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  Speaker 6: You can't always outperform a bad offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: No, you're right. And that's the thing. You said it.
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  Speaker 2: We saw him do it for five weeks, right? And
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  Speaker 2: eventually the dam is broken here. And I do think...
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  Speaker 2: I was saying, Sheena, after the Bucs game, he's not
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  Speaker 2: escaping the way he was previously. And I think the need...
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  Speaker 2: I know Bryce haters or Bryce doubters, I should say,
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  Speaker 2: are going to say, y'all are making excuses. But, like,
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  Speaker 2: something was off. The knee thing makes sense, you know?
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  Speaker 6: Can we really say that the people that are overzealous Bryce.
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  Speaker 4: Doubters, can we really say that they employ logic for real?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 6: I think we're giving them a little bit more credit
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  Speaker 6: than they deserve. Every time I hear they hit height,
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  Speaker 6: has anything to do with the last two weeks, I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I'm exiting the conversation. We're giving those guys, we're giving
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  Speaker 6: that group way too much credit. They don't employ logic anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they can't even spell logic.
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  Speaker 3: And it's funny that they're going after Bryce's height. I
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  Speaker 3: would guess, Sheena, that some of those guys are probably
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  Speaker 3: like 5'7.
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  Speaker 6: That's the thing that always gets me. I'm like, let's
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  Speaker 6: see your height.
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  Speaker 2: You're just not tall enough.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, the Chargers are sitting at, what, 0-8.
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  Speaker 2: Now, or are they 0-7?
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  Speaker 1: 0-7. 0-7.
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  Speaker 6: And only because they had a box.
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  Speaker 2: Big old strapping quarterback. And look how he looks. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: all right.
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  Speaker 6: You just cannot outplay. You can't continuously outplay a bad
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  Speaker 6: offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: You just can't do that. That's way too much stress.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. Sheena, great stuff as always. I look forward
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: to reading some angry texts from Bryce Dowders right now.
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  Speaker 2: You gave him the business. If y'all want this great information,
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: if you're not following Sheena already, I ask, what are
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: you doing with your life? At Sheena.com. underscore Marie three
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  Speaker 2: on Twitter and slash X. Thank you, Sheena. Enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks so much. Thank you, guys. All right, there you go, Sheena.
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: I knew there's always a feisty moment coming because she's
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: very active, Bone, on Panther Twitter and social media. So
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: she is like in the foxhole. She's catching this stuff,
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: and you can tell. She's getting a little feisty. She's
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: upset Picante. Picante's back at it again, dude.
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  Speaker 3: Picante, go work on your college basketball picks, all right, buddy?
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  Speaker 2: You've got work to do here. Picante, how are you
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  Speaker 2: going to lose your own pick segment like three times
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  Speaker 2: and get on Bryce for not doing his job correctly, man?
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: Picante said he's not blocking Sheena.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure you're not blocked already, Picante.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, does Picante make a run at Sheena? Yeah. Does
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: he really? Oh, yeah, he's... He said he's blocking it. Oh,
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: he is being very picante. You're not being a gentleman, sir,
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  Speaker 2: to the lady on this text line at all right now, sir.
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  Speaker 3: I'm disappointed in you. If he still had a pick segment,
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  Speaker 3: he'd be gone right now.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness. The more I think about what happened,
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: because I'm trying to think way too much about this team, Bone.
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  Speaker 2: And she brings up the O-line, and oh, other than
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  Speaker 2: Damian Lewis being out, this is the line you kind
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  Speaker 2: of start week one or whatever. And it's true, although
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  Speaker 2: we're missing the two starting tackles, guys that would start
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  Speaker 2: over these guys. But it was also the same starting line, Bone,
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  Speaker 2: that played when we put up 30-plus against the Lions,
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  Speaker 2: albeit against a bad defense. I think we had a
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  Speaker 2: game plan against the Lions that caught them by surprise.
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  Speaker 2: All the RPOs, all the quick game. And I kind
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  Speaker 2: of feel like now, and Garcia brought this up, teams
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  Speaker 2: now are like, okay, you don't trust your O-line. We
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  Speaker 2: watched the tape. We know why. We're going to be
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: ready for your quick game. We're going to be up
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: in the kitchens of these receivers.
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  Speaker 3: The film's out, and now they have to adjust back
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  Speaker 3: to what the other teams are doing.
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  Speaker 2: And my question is, is there an adjustment? Like, you've
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: got to get the pass pro right. You know, we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about it later. Nine o'clock segment's going to be
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  Speaker 2: all about what can Canales do to try to fix
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: things over there. There's also a conversation we have to
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  Speaker 2: have this week, Bone, about what would be your starting
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: five on the O-line. It is a bad sign. when
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: you're middle of the season, and people are setting in
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  Speaker 2: their O-line combos, and everyone's different. That ain't a good sign.
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  Speaker 2: That is not at all, dude.
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  Speaker 3: Picante went 4-1 on his basketball picks yesterday, so he said,
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  Speaker 3: leave the picks out of this.
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  Speaker 2: They'll get personal here, all right? Maybe that's your sport, Picante.
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  Speaker 2: I'm starting to wonder about that football thing.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, you got to do the picks for him this week.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: His fate is now in your hands.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: That's right, baby. That's right, Picante. I bet you feel great.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: It's like Bryce feeling like his fate is in Rasheed
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: Walker's hands.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: We come back. Adam Gold from 99.9 The Fan in Raleigh.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: We'll talk about the latest with the Heels, the NC
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: State quest for Phillip Rivers, the Panthers, and more on
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNC. Thanks to Sheena Quick for hanging
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: out with us here on the Mac and Bone Show,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: trying to figure out. this Panther season. Can they pull
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: themselves back together? I do want to address a texter
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: bone because I tried to respond to him individually. I
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: sent it to Picante by mistake. Picante was confused. He
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: was just trying to come up with some picks for
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Thursday night match and I messed it all up. So
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: people were asking about the 21 day window that they've
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: opened for Brady Christensen and Canales did say, interestingly, they
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: may open it For Brooks and or XL, I would
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: personally love, XL's another conversation, I would love to get
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Brooks and the ability to just dump it off to
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: him out in space. I would love to get that
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: screen pass game to alleviate the pressure. I'd love to
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: get that back.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Because Dylan's been hurt too, so it's basically all on
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Chuba in the run game, right? Dylan, healthy scratch last week.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: Healthy scratch. Before that, he was hurt, though, right? Yeah,
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: he had an ankle. But yes, I want that skill
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: set of Brooks in the passing game. I think it
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: could be huge.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: But anyway, so we're waiting to see if they do
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: it with Brooks, waiting to see if they do it
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: with XL. And when's Mike Jack coming back? Horn and
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: that sort of thing. But the 21-day window that they
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: did open up for Brady Christensen means that he can
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: start practicing, they have 21 days to activate him on
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: the active roster, or he goes on IR for the season.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: So that's kind of where that stands. But it sounds
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: like Brady is, I would venture to say, it sounds
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: like there's a good chance he plays this week.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Mac, if I need a window in the next 21 days,
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: where should I go buy my windows?
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: You get your 21-day windows at UniversalWindowsDirect.com, Bone. That was
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: so nice of you to ask me about that. Gotcha, man.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: All right. Bone is playing John Stockton in my Carl
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Malone for my ads. All right, let's bring in a
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: man right now that we want to hear his opinion
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: on a lot of these things going on, Bone. We
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: got Tar Heel basketball making fans a little concerned after
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: the opener in the exhibition season. We've got all kind
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: of triangle football happenings going on. We got the Canes.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: We got all kind of stuff. And, of course, the Panthers.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Adam Gold, 99.9, the fan in Raleigh. And, of course,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: you can hear him most weeknights here. WFNZ at 7 o'clock. Goldie,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: how you doing this week, brother?
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I'm hanging in there. I wasn't that concerned about the
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Tar Heels. They didn't exactly blow anybody's doors off during
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: the preseason. I kind of expected that.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: So what do you think? Okay, let's start right there
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: because Finney may be a bit concerned, Goldie. I'm also
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: very highly concerned. Bone is very stressed out about it.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: They got out-rebounded again last night this time by Western Carolina. Like,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: do you think Michael Malone, I think it's a pretty
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: good bet, will make them better, will improve the team?
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Are you worried about where exactly their ceiling is or,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: or does it not matter? Cause it's year one. Like,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: are you kind of, you want heels fans to be patient?
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Is that kind of your message?
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: It met year one doesn't matter. They're, they're going to
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: be fine. I think their roster is good. I don't
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: think their roster is great. They could certainly use the
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: big kid from North Dakota, whatever, or whatever the Dakota
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: we'll just say Dakota.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: That's what I said earlier. I didn't know which one.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Can we all agree that we only need one Dakota?
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: We only need one, clearly.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: We're only one. We'll vote on that. On the show today,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: we could just get rid of one of the Dakotas.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Make it one giant Dakota.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: And for people that say, why don't we just do
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: one Carolina? Sorry, y'all. Sorry, y'all.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: I don't want to team up with y'all. In Wyoming,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: by the way, you're getting thrown into the Dakotas, too.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know what you're doing out there.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Dakota-oming.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: It's like the Upper Peninsula. It's not really attached to
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: the Dakotas. Look, I am not worried. They need the
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: big kid. And here's what it demonstrates. It demonstrates how
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: stupid the NCAA is. Because Van Allen Lubin is playing
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: a sixth year at NC State.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: He's eligible.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: The kid from North Dakota is not. Somebody make sense
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: of that. No. funny thing is, And reasonable people can
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: disagree whether it's a good rule or not. I think
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: five years to play five is a great rule, best
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: rule the NCAA has come up with in years. And
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: this season, we have players who are playing their eighth
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: year of college football eligible and players who want to
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: play their fifth. ineligible and that is absolutely nonsensical but
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: this is the NCAA's finest.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Work it is and I mean the way it goes
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: to certain courts and what judge do you get and
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: what state is your case I mean it's just absurd
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: it really is man what did you think of the
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: heel what'd you.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Think of the heels football effort the other day where
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: they push Miami and all the referee chatter about the
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: game what was your takeaway from how that ended.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, the pass interference that they got called for
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: was garbage. There's no pass interference there ever, anywhere, at
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: any time. It's a terrible call. But the two calls
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: on the onside kicks, I mean, they're both penalties. The
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: first one, the offside, it doesn't impact the play, but
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: he's offside. So, I mean, that's an easy one. And
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the second one clearly impacts the play. You can't block
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: the guy out of the way before 10 yards so
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: you can get the ball. And contact is clearly made
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: about nine yards down the field. My bigger takeaway, first
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: of all, I was super impressed by North Carolina. The
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: fact that if Billy Edwards doesn't get strip sacked, Carolina
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: wins that game. My takeaway is Miami ain't beating anybody
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: really good because they can't stop anybody. Carolina's got pros
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: on their offense. Thurman and ship are both pros. They
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: had other contributions. I really like all three running backs.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: And my takeaway is that bill Belichick has shown you
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: that onside kicks are at easily a 50, 50 proposition
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: when he does them, because I don't know how you stop.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: that i mean because if they're not offside on the
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: first one carolina recovers it and they go and win
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: the game but they were offside but uh the second
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: one they clearly blocked early but still uh i don't
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: know how you stop that uh or maybe it's just
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: against miami and mario cristobal was in the process of
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: getting himself out coached which has happened before.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to say, Goldie, that we're overreacting to
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: night one of college basketball here. But Finney went out
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: to get some water, and a Duke fan was waiting
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: for him, our friend Q, waiting for him and pointing
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: at him and laughing.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: To harass him. Now they've both disappeared into the hallway somewhere.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Duke wasn't all that impressive either.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: No, but we know they will. We know they will be.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: That's the difference is we know they will be. We
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: don't know how impressive Carolina will be.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Well, again, I think Carolina's roster is at a little
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: different level. And again, they're missing that big guy. Look,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I love Matt Abel, but I can't recall seeing Matt
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Abel dominate a game at NC State. I mean, I
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: think his potential has been better than his performances his
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: first year at State. And I think those other players
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: are good players, but not from necessarily major programs and
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: major leagues. I think they'll be very good. I think
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Michael Malone is a great coach. I love the future
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: of that program. And I think this team will be good.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think this team will be great, but I
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: think this team will be good. So... Just because they
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: have North Carolina across the chest doesn't mean they're going
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: to be otherworldly. I think they're good.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: We talked to you last week after the firing of
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Dave Doran the previous weekend, but the Phillip Rivers chatter.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Is growing more and more and more.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: What are your thoughts now, a week removed from when
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: it first came up, about the potential of Phillip Rivers
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: as the head coach of the Wolfpack?
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I mean... It does certainly seem like that's the direction
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: of travel. And I'm not against it. I don't mean
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: anything might work. Philip Rivers might end up being a
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: great coach. I don't know. It's is it a risk? Yeah,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: because he has no college coaching experience. But if he
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: makes smart hires, he might be able to mitigate his
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: lack of experience. We don't have to doubt his football mind.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: We don't have a doubt whether or not he loves
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: the university, but that's true. So can he raise money?
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Can he hire the right assistants and can he raise money?
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: If they can do that, then I think it'll be
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: a fine hire unless the coaching part of it overwhelms him.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: And I don't think I don't see that happening.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: How worried are you? I guess you wouldn't be. Why
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: am I asking if you're going to be worried? Adam
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Gold is steady Eddie Cool, baby.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I'm very worried. I'm very worried about this question.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: No, I think I should phrase it this way. How
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: worried should Duke and Wake fans be? And I hate
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: to do this to Wake fans in the middle of
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: their great season, but how worried should those schools be
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: that Manny Diaz and or Jake Dicker could go take
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: another job? What do you think?
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: They should be incredibly worried that both will have options.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: They will definitely have options. I know what Florida State
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: has been. I wouldn't take that job for a second.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: I know. Me either. We said that too.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: There is no ability. The culture of that program I
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: think is so far away from winning now. Diaz is
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: an alum, so Diaz might have– other interests there and
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I get it. But if I'm Duke, to answer your question,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: if I'm Duke or Wake Forest, you should always understand
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: that if your coach succeeds, he's going to be, he's
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: going to have, there's going to be interested parties elsewhere
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: because people say, how can you win at Wake? How
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: can you win at Duke? Those guys must be superstars.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: And I think they both are. But to me, that's
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: just you have to be prepared. You should never hire
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: a coach at Duke or Wake thinking that, all right,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: these guys are going to be here forever. That should
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: never happen. You should be ready to hire a coach
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: every three years. Say the same thing at App. Say
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: the same thing at ECU. If you're looking to hire
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: your forever coach, you are doing it the wrong way.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: You got to hire a coach that you think can
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: help you win now. and then understand that when he
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: does or if he does, he's off. And that's fair
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: because you can't possibly compensate these guys the way they
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: can get compensated elsewhere.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: One reason, Adam, I'm not freaking out about it is
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: because Duke has done such a great job in hiring
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: coaches under this administration that, yeah, it's frustrating, but I
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: have no doubt that they're going to make the right
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: hire again. They're doing a great job throughout all their
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: sports in their hiring process.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: No doubt, except that Shire guy.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: There's some late game issues, and we've talked about it,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: me and JS, and we're working.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Through some things. They have flamed out at the worst
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: possible time, but John Shire is a superstar. There's like
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: five basketball coaches in America that would keep their jobs
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: if John Shire didn't. was a coaching free agent, 340 coaches.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: schools would fire their coach to hire John.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Totally, man. It's only a matter of time, man, for him. Okay.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Let me, let me ask a more positive weight question now.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Cause I feel bad. They're having this amazing season. They're
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Molly whomping people every week. And although they do have
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: the Gio Lopez knee injury concern, we don't know for
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: sure about that, but I just want to ask you,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: like you were kind of, and I understand why, but
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: you were kind of dismissive of their chances of the
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: playoff weeks ago. They are really breaking out the whooping
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: stick now. Are you warming up to their playoff chances?
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: How do you feel about that?
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll give you a little insight on what we're
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: going to do today on the show. I don't know
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: if it's airing today. We are going to project the
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: playoff today. And I, at this very moment, do not
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: have Wake Forest in. But I don't have Indiana in.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: And I don't have Notre Dame in either. And those
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: are all one loss teams as well. I have several
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: two loss teams ahead of them. But I think if
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: they beat SMU, they just don't have the total resume.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Even though Wake Forest has been laying waste to everybody,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: much like Indiana did in year one without beating anybody good,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: their best thing on their resume right now is probably
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the loss to Miami. Maybe the win over Louisville, because
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Louisville was ranked at the time. And actually, I think
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: there's one poll that has them ranked now. But if
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: they beat SMU on the road, if they finish with
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: three more wins in league play, then they're going to
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: go to the ACC championship at 11-1. And yeah, they'll
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: be a playoff team, whether they lose to Miami or not,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I think. But that's what they have to do. They
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: have to run the table in order to be a
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: playoff team because, unfortunately, they just don't have the wins
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: um against really good teams but if they run the
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: table they'll have them because the uh the you know
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: the games against smu and duke will be good wins
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: when they when they get right down.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: To it yeah that is what they're up against no
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: doubt about i gotta be honest after watching miami struggle
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: to stop the passing games of florida state and unc
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: i'm not so sure here in charlotte if they met
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: wake couldn't beat them You know, I'm not.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I think I wouldn't want to play Wake Forest at
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: all right now. I think they're going to SMU in
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: two weeks to win.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I tend to agree. I tend to agree on that. Goldie,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: you were asking, are you on today in Charlotte? Seven
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: o'clock sharp. You are on tonight, baby. So they can
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: hear you talk about Wake and the playoff. And obviously
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: tomorrow on our show, we're going to react to where
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Wake is in the first playoff standings that come out tonight.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: Goldie, you are.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: He's not live, though, at seven. Oh, I thought he
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: was going to come in studio. I was trying to
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: assign him with his own personal show. So he may
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: not know yet. No, I said we're going to– it's
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: two separate shows. Okay, okay, okay. Tonight you're going to
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: hear Goldie from today with his playoffs.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: I thought you meant Goldie's reacting to the playoffs. I'm
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: not that dumb.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: I'm dumb.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I wasn't sure there.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: You guys don't watch that show, do you?
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, I lock in. Oh, I lock in. I never
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: miss an episode. I lock in. I take notes and everything, Goldie.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: When it's over?
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Hard for me to feel dumber, you know, and
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: hard for me to do that. All right, Goldie, are
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: you one of those curmudgeons that won't waste your time
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: with that stuff?
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: No, because it's all fake. It's all contrived. They're not
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: telling you the truth. It's terrible. It's an awful show.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: But I want to react to the fake and contrive
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: the next day on the show.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: I like Joey Galloway getting worked up and Reese trying
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: to calm him down. I like when they talk to
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: the committee chairman. They grow him like Billy Packer.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Used to do.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Is McAfee on this thing or are they finally giving
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: him a day off? Please tell me to put him
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: on this thing. He's actually going to host and be
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: the analyst. He's going to throw it to himself. All right, Goldie,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: we'll talk to you.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: He's doing part of ABC's election coverage today.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: It's bad enough Stephen A's hosting an election show on
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: POTUS tonight, man. POTUS Radio.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: No, please tell me no. It is.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I heard that yesterday.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: Anyway.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: All right. America. Appreciate you, Goldie.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Bye.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: There we go. That is Goldie there. Adam Gold, 99.9
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: fan in Raleigh. And you can listen to the show
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: tonight and most weeknights, unless there's a Hornets game on
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: here on WFNZ. We come back.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Sounds of the college football pressers yesterday. Belichick and Rule
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: went viral.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: You'll hear it. We'll react. Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: Bye.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Bye.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Mack and Bone with you. How
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  Speaker 2: to fix our beloved Carolina Panthers. That's coming up at
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  Speaker 2: 9 o'clock here. The Stro Show. Ashley Strohlein joins us
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  Speaker 2: at 925. We'll have some fun, no doubt about that.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, though, Bone, I couldn't help but notice Belichick
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  Speaker 2: and Rule. Viral video clips from their press conference yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: I can't resist. These are interesting. These are juicy in
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  Speaker 2: different ways. Let's start with Bill Belichick. When Brian Murphy
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  Speaker 2: from WRAL grabbed the microphone, but now I want to
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  Speaker 2: point this out. Brian Murphy is like the investigative reporter
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  Speaker 2: at WRAL. We've had him on before. You're talking a
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  Speaker 2: journalist here, ladies and gentlemen. like something I would never
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  Speaker 2: pretend to be, but a journalist. This was an interesting
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  Speaker 2: thing for him to be asking about, Bone, given his background.
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  Speaker 2: Listen to the question and Belichick's response.
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  Speaker 4: There was some national reporting over the weekend about the
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  Speaker 4: relationship status with Jordan Hudson.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if you had any comment.
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  Speaker 2: On that and what it might mean.
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  Speaker 3: Unfortunately, no.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll keep my personal comments and relationships to myself.
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  Speaker 5: That's all right with you.
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  Speaker 2: So there you go. He's asking about the TMZ report
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  Speaker 2: that Jordan Hudson and Bill have been broken up for
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  Speaker 2: a year. Almost got him to break there. What do
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  Speaker 2: you think about that question? I saw our boy Floundiggity.
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  Speaker 2: I saw the Floundog very angry that this question was
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  Speaker 2: asked in a presser. He wasn't alone. How do you
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  Speaker 2: feel about that question being asked in a press conference?
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  Speaker 3: I'm torn about it because normally I would say... That
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  Speaker 3: crosses the line of personal, but it was such a
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  Speaker 3: huge dominant story of the past year leading into this year.
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  Speaker 2: Eileen, probably not right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I do understand to a certain degree why
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  Speaker 3: you asked, but the other problem with asking that question
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  Speaker 3: is you're asking a question where you're going to get
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  Speaker 3: no answer whatsoever. So was that worth it? Belichick will
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  Speaker 3: never answer that question. He doesn't answer questions about football,
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  Speaker 3: never mind his personal life. So you're asking a question
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  Speaker 3: that I understand why you asked, but you wasted time
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  Speaker 3: because you're never getting it out of him.
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  Speaker 2: It's true. In a million years. But the person that
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  Speaker 2: asked Manny Diaz yesterday about the Florida State job knows
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  Speaker 2: they're not getting a real answer either.
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of questions that have to be asked
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  Speaker 2: where you know you're not getting a real answer. I
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  Speaker 2: just feel like, I don't know, it doesn't really... I'm
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  Speaker 2: kind of a hypocrite on this one because I feel
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  Speaker 2: like it probably doesn't have a place in that press conference.
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  Speaker 2: But by the same token, I want to know so badly,
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  Speaker 2: like I want to know so badly, are they together still?
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  Speaker 2: It is killing me, man. I need to know because
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  Speaker 2: this is such weird behavior if they're not together still. Bone,
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  Speaker 2: they were together in, I saw this photo yesterday, together
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  Speaker 2: cycling in Nantucket in July. But the TMZ report says
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  Speaker 2: they broke up months before that. Like I told you,
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  Speaker 2: I said yesterday, Bill traveled to her cheerleading competition to
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  Speaker 2: watch her. In April, the TMZ report says they're broken up.
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  Speaker 2: This man was already crazy enough to let her take
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  Speaker 2: over his life?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Why would he still be palling around with her in
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  Speaker 2: Nantucket if they're not romantically involved? What's wrong with grandpa
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  Speaker 2: spending time with his granddaughter back? That's creepy. You never
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  Speaker 2: cycled in Nantucket with an ex? What's wrong with you?
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  Speaker 2: That's just weird to me, man. It was already a
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  Speaker 2: weird situation the whole way through. The relationship, the two
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  Speaker 2: of them even being together, her then getting all this authority,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, over him. If they're just
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  Speaker 2: hanging out as palos, as the great Willie P would say,
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  Speaker 2: that blows me away, man.
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  Speaker 3: Did you hear who she's linked to, Mac?
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  Speaker 2: That rumor. 101-year-old Dick Van Dyke. She needed a.
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  Speaker 3: More mature man than Belichick. Much older man. I can't
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  Speaker 3: say who holds anymore because we've all slew. So I've
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  Speaker 3: got to move on to people that are still alive.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. Although I'm not sure Belichick's still alive. get
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  Speaker 2: to Matt Rule. This was Matt Rule. This was Matt
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  Speaker 2: Rule in the press yesterday. For those who don't know
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  Speaker 2: the context, the sky is falling at Nebraska. They have
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  Speaker 2: lost three straight games, Bone. And they have, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: they have led every game entering the fourth quarter this season.
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  Speaker 2: And they're on a three game losing streak. They have
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  Speaker 2: trailed in those three games for a combined nine minutes.
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  Speaker 2: They are falling apart in the fourth quarter. Matt Rule
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  Speaker 2: yesterday talked about a kind of sad fan interaction after
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  Speaker 2: the game.
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  Speaker 5: I love our fans. But a guy walked up to
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  Speaker 5: my 13-year-old daughter and was like, F you and F
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  Speaker 5: your dad. Like, I'm not going to keep coaching if
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  Speaker 5: it means my kids grow up screwed up. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not going to grow up coaching and see my
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  Speaker 5: daughter shook. So, like, I'm going to go fight for
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  Speaker 5: the fans from Red Cloud that drive here. I'm going
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  Speaker 5: to go fight for the fans that, like, yeah, they
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  Speaker 5: get passionate, they boo, they throw a bottle. Like, I
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  Speaker 5: get all that. But, like, the guy that attacked my
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  Speaker 5: 13-year-old daughter, like, I'm not coaching for him. I'm coaching
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  Speaker 5: for the people that are in the boat. So you
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  Speaker 5: guys can ask me whatever you want, man, but just
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  Speaker 5: please don't question anybody's integrity or effort because I said
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  Speaker 5: to my kids, I said to my daughters, I said, hey,
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  Speaker 5: if daddy's got to retire, if I have to retire
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  Speaker 5: because I don't want you guys growing up in that environment.
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  Speaker 5: Julie has one rule. There's no crying at the games.
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  Speaker 5: We're at the Panthers. They're chaining fire in that rule.
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  Speaker 5: Brian's on the field. So much so that McCaffrey came
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  Speaker 5: up and put his arm around me. He's like, don't
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  Speaker 5: listen to a coach. My dad's on the field. My son.
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  Speaker 5: That's part of being a coach's kid. I get all that, man.
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  Speaker 5: My wife's like head held high. You never cry. But
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  Speaker 5: a grown man walks up to my daughter. It's not
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  Speaker 5: about me and my kids. It's about Calandria. It's about
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  Speaker 5: their parents in this thing. It's about the fans who care.
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  Speaker 5: This is not a fans. This is about the people
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  Speaker 5: that are passionate with us. We're going to keep fighting
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  Speaker 5: until the day they tell me to leave.
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  Speaker 3: No crying at the games. Well, that goes against what
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  Speaker 3: fans did when he coached here for so long.
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  Speaker 2: That's Julie Rule's rule. No crying at the games.
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  Speaker 3: As Smoke and Bailey pointed out, Mac, credit to them,
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  Speaker 3: that sounded awfully familiar when things were going bad here.
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  Speaker 3: It's almost like it's a very similar story that he
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  Speaker 3: went to, isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know exactly. They went and found the exact clip.
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  Speaker 2: I'll just say this. Like if somebody is saying that
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  Speaker 2: to Matt rules, 13 year old daughter, they're pathetic. I
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  Speaker 2: do want to say that I don't want to just
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  Speaker 2: gloss over that, but he does have this pattern of
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  Speaker 2: like when things get bad, wanting to be a sympathetic figure,
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  Speaker 2: I think. Yes. So like, How does that comment hit you?
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  Speaker 2: Are you rolling your eyes at that comment?
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  Speaker 3: It feels like he's going to the well of stuff
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  Speaker 3: that he does when his back's against the wall.
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  Speaker 2: He's rambling. I'm not condoning that if it's true by
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  Speaker 2: any means. I'm not saying he made it up, but
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  Speaker 2: he seems to like milking it.
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  Speaker 3: Do we have the audio of the time here that
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  Speaker 3: he talked about his family being harassed, Vinny?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Want to play that real quick? Yeah, go ahead and
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  Speaker 3: play that. This is from 2022, right, I think?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hear this.
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  Speaker 3: Do you hear that noise, and how do you respond
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  Speaker 3: to the fan backlash towards you right now?
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  Speaker 4: I didn't hear it at the game. Obviously, my son's
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  Speaker 4: on the field with me. After the game, he told
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  Speaker 4: me about it. My wife was at the game with
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  Speaker 4: our young daughters.
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  Speaker 1: She told me about it.
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  Speaker 4: My response to our kids is always, hey, if you
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  Speaker 4: want the good, you have to take the bad. I
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  Speaker 4: know it was college and it was different, but there
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  Speaker 4: was a lot of backlash against me at Baylor. I
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  Speaker 4: was a guy from New York City that moved to
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  Speaker 4: Texas to replace a guy that you know, had just
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  Speaker 4: almost taken them to the national championship games and was
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  Speaker 4: fired wrongly. And all I did was take his championship
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  Speaker 4: program and go one and 11 the first year. And
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  Speaker 4: so I was not real popular there. Um, and, and
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  Speaker 4: so all I learned to do was like, okay, well
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  Speaker 4: people are mad because we're losing. So what should I do?
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  Speaker 4: I should, I shouldn't cry about it. I should just
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  Speaker 4: try to get us to the point where we're winning. Um,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the Hornets game, I, you know, I just
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  Speaker 4: kind of told Brian, like, Hey buddy, I don't think
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  Speaker 4: we're going to be able to go to any Hornets
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  Speaker 4: games this year. And, um, you know, I just try
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  Speaker 4: to be the best father that I can be. And,
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  Speaker 4: So does that impact me?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 4: I wish people were excited, but they'd be excited if
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  Speaker 4: we were winning. And no one's more angry that we're
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  Speaker 4: not winning yet than me.
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  Speaker 3: He runs into a lot of angry fans, though, doesn't he, Mac?
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  Speaker 3: That's kind of telling, isn't it, though? What are the
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  Speaker 3: happy fans he runs into?
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  Speaker 2: And in fairness to him, you asked him the question there.
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  Speaker 3: He just got booed at a Hornets game right around
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  Speaker 3: that time. So you asked him that. It wasn't like
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  Speaker 3: he brought it up. This Nebraska presser, he brought that
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  Speaker 3: story up.
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  Speaker 2: And I would say this again. Somebody says, why do
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  Speaker 2: we still care about rules? I don't want to obsess
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  Speaker 2: over rules at this point. We've got our own damn problems.
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  Speaker 2: He's got his own problems. I will say this, though, Bone.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you think all embattled coaches run a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the same stuff? Like, do they all bring it? You
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Does he like, kind of, does
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  Speaker 2: he milk it? I think is all we're asking.
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  Speaker 3: I heard the fans were so harsh to Jake DeLome
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  Speaker 3: at the end, he wouldn't even really go out in
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  Speaker 3: public anymore. So it's not just coaches. Players deal with that, too.
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  Speaker 2: All over the place. Now, Jake would never bring that up. No,
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  Speaker 2: but I've heard that story before. Yeah, but I'm saying, like,
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  Speaker 2: Jake would— like, some people will just keep that quiet and
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  Speaker 2: won't bring it up. Matt seems to, you know, have
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  Speaker 2: no problem bringing it up. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I heard Willie P's got a lot of detractors at
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  Speaker 3: Wegmans right now that wait for him when he goes.
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  Speaker 2: In once a day. I'm going to tell you right now, Wegmans,
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  Speaker 2: I should have used this in a What the Bleep segment.
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  Speaker 2: Willie P told me y'all out there charging $ 14. 99 for
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  Speaker 2: a damn foot-long sub. Miss me with that. Seriously, miss me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to get my damn Teeter Friday for $ 7.
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  Speaker 2: That's an outrage. That is highway robbery. Do y'all have
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  Speaker 2: ski masks on when you serve those subs?
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  Speaker 3: Willie opened up to us yesterday about his addiction problem.
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  Speaker 3: He's addicted to Wegmans.
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  Speaker 5: He is.
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  Speaker 2: So I guess tomorrow we got to try to talk
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  Speaker 2: through with him tomorrow. I'm telling you right now, there
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  Speaker 2: ought to be a better business bureau ought to investigate
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  Speaker 2: that day in 1499 foot long, y'all. When we come back.
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  Speaker 3: What the heck do Canales and company have to do
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  Speaker 3: to turn this thing around? It's amazing how quickly it
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  Speaker 3: got to this point. Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.