Latest / Scripture Central / How Did Paul Interact with Greek Philosophies in Athens? #681
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- 0:01For in him we live and move and have our being, as certain also
- 0:07of your own poets have said, for we are also his offspring.
- 0:14Hey listeners, this is Nick from Scripture Central and today's
- 0:17podcast addresses the question. How did Paul interact with Greek
- 0:21philosophies in Athens after being driven out of Thessalonica
- 0:29and Berea by an angry mob, Paul was conducted down the coast to
- 0:33Athens by the faithful Saints for his own safety, while Paul
- 0:37waited for his companions Silas and Timothy to join him.
- 0:41His spirit was stirred in him when he saw the city wholly
- 0:44given to idolatry. Therefore disputed he and the
- 0:48synagogues with the Jews and with the devout persons, and in
- 0:52the market daily with them that met with him.
- 0:55As Paul was preaching in the agora, he gained the attention
- 0:58of certain philosophers of the Epicureans and of the Stoics,
- 1:01who had varying attitudes towards what they heard.
- 1:04And some said, What will this babbler say?
- 1:07Others. Some he seemeth to be a set of
- 1:10forth of strange gods, because he preached unto them Jesus and
- 1:14the resurrection. So they took Paul to meet with
- 1:17the Erapagus on Mars Hill, right next to the Acropolis.
- 1:21There the city rulers invited him to explain in greater detail
- 1:24the new doctrine he was preaching.
- 1:26Paul commenced his wellknown speech by discussing the
- 1:29Athenian worship of an unknown God.
- 1:32Here Paul shows a deep understanding of the language
- 1:35and culture of his audience. As biblical scholars have
- 1:38studied Paul's explanation address, it has become clear
- 1:42that Paul was familiar with ideas common in Greek
- 1:45philosophical circles since he had grown up in Tarsus, the
- 1:50capital city of the Roman province of Celesia.
- 1:53Paul was probably educated there and would have been taught Greek
- 1:56language, literature, history, and public governance.
- 2:00Now in Athens, Paul could deliver an effective prophetic
- 2:04critique of many of the ideas prevalent in Athenian society,
- 2:08contrasting supposed Athenian piety with the truth about
- 2:12humanity, their origins, and their relationship to the true
- 2:16God. One of the most prominent
- 2:19philosophers known to Athens, for example, was Socrates, who
- 2:22was famously tried for his beliefs and sentenced to death
- 2:26on this same hill in 399 BC, almost 5 centuries earlier.
- 2:32Though Paul may not have been deeply conversant with all of
- 2:35Socrates's works, biblical scholar Craig S Keener has
- 2:39observed how Paul is depicted in Acts chapter 17 as a new
- 2:43Socrates for his hearing on this hill.
- 2:46For the most part, Paul drew upon his knowledge of Stoic and
- 2:50Epicurean thought throughout his speech, as he tries to share the
- 2:53gospel in terms that both of those two groups would be more
- 2:57likely to understand. Paul begins and ends his speech,
- 3:01for example, by mentioning the Athenians ignorance of the true
- 3:05God. While some philosophers such as
- 3:08Socrates believe that those who claim to have knowledge in
- 3:10reality did not, most philosophers, such as those in
- 3:14Paul's immediate presence, valued knowledge highly and
- 3:17confidently. Specifically, many Greek
- 3:20thinkers valued knowledge of deities, and ignorance of a
- 3:23deity was usually not a compliment.
- 3:26However, Paul did not leave the Athenians to remain in
- 3:30ignorance, but went on to teach them about God's true nature and
- 3:34how they might come to know him. One aspect of this ignorance
- 3:37likely included the Epicureans rejection of temples and
- 3:40sacrifices. They saw intellectual exercise
- 3:44as the only reasonable form of worship.
- 3:46Well, they might have been enthusiastic to hear Paul teach
- 3:49that God has not worshiped literally served with men's
- 3:52hands as though God needed anything.
- 3:55They would have immediately rejected the rest of Paul's
- 3:57statement because Paul declared that serving God allows us to
- 4:00feel after him and find him. Just because God does not
- 4:05require our worship does not mean that he does not desire his
- 4:08children to approach him and come to know Him, especially in
- 4:12the ordinances performed in the temple.
- 4:15Assessing his audience, Paul had more in common with the Stoics
- 4:18than the Epicureans, for example.
- 4:20On the one hand, Epicureans believed in God, yet viewed him
- 4:23as an untroubled being uninvolved in human cares and
- 4:27concerns. Paul, however, maintained that
- 4:30God was intimately involved with the details of our lives, even
- 4:33to the point of giving us life, breath, and all things.
- 4:38Stoics, on the other hand, maintained that God was active
- 4:40in the world, and so they could have agreed with many of Paul's
- 4:43teachings. Stoics likewise may have been
- 4:46more open to the idea of a resurrection than the
- 4:49Epicureans, who rejected any idea of an afterlife, and were
- 4:53likely those who mocked Paul when they heard of the
- 4:55resurrection of the dead. While both groups of
- 4:58philosophers believed in living according to one's reason and
- 5:01training, Paul taught powerfully That was not enough.
- 5:06Rather, all people must repent and live according to God's
- 5:09will. Paul additionally cited the
- 5:12Greek poets Epimendes and Ratus to demonstrate to both the
- 5:16Epicureans and Stoics how your own poets have said for we are
- 5:21also his offspring, referring to their status as children of God.
- 5:25However, even these famous philosophers could not come to a
- 5:28true understanding of what their declaration meant without
- 5:32relying on the Spirit and listening to the Lord and His
- 5:35prophets. For this reason, Paul invited
- 5:38the Athenians to seek the Lord if they are willing to find him,
- 5:42for he is not far from every one of us.
- 5:45Ultimately, while Paul's teachings may not have had a
- 5:48lasting effect on some of these philosophers who are willing to
- 5:51repent, some of them did believe and were baptized.
- 5:55Philosophers, however, would ultimately impede Paul's
- 5:58preaching later on in his ministry.
- 6:00About two years after this experience, Paul would write to
- 6:04his converts in Corinth, warning them not to allow their
- 6:07philosophical studies and interests to affect their faith.
- 6:11Declaring your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but
- 6:16in the power of God. We may not know exactly what
- 6:21Paul's education included, but it is clear that the apostle had
- 6:24extensive training in classical schools of thought in addition
- 6:28to his training under Gamelio in the learning of the Jewish laws
- 6:31and scriptures. While many philosophers would
- 6:34prove detrimental to the faith of some Christians, Paul was
- 6:37able to powerfully utilize his secular and spiritual training
- 6:42to bring the Gospel to many who would have otherwise not heard
- 6:45the message. Greek philosophy would continue
- 6:48to have a rocky relationship with Christianity for the next
- 6:51several centuries. As Daniel W Graham and James L
- 6:55Sybak have observed, much of Roman science was beneficially
- 6:59rooted in Greek mathematics, analysis, and philosophy, and
- 7:03thus made important advances that we still depend on today.
- 7:07What it could not do, however, was replace Revelation as the
- 7:12proper medium for a knowledge of God.
- 7:14Rather, we may use rational methods to organize the
- 7:17teachings of the Scriptures, and we may profitably evaluate them
- 7:21by the use of reason. But we do not need to adhere to
- 7:25any school of Greek philosophy to understand Christian
- 7:28doctrine. On the contrary, we should use
- 7:31Christian doctrine to evaluate philosophical theories.
- 7:35The problem of depending primarily on philosophical
- 7:38theories became more pronounced in the 3rd and 4th centuries, as
- 7:41later Christian thinkers believe the question of God's nature to
- 7:44be one such theological inquiry, which the New Testament did not
- 7:49elucidate sufficiently and began to force their doctrine to fall
- 7:53in line with philosophical schools.
- 7:56Rather than follow Paul's example and base their faith on
- 7:59the Scriptures as elucidated by the teachings of the prophets,
- 8:03they instead grounded their faith on the philosophies of men
- 8:06only, using the scriptures when necessary to give them a shadow
- 8:10of authority. Such a basis for belief cannot
- 8:13last. In the Book of Mormon, Jacob
- 8:15testified that to be learned it is good if they hearken unto the
- 8:18councils of God. Indeed, the Lord encourages us
- 8:22to gain a faithful education in modern times as well.
- 8:25Seek ye out of the best books. Words of wisdom seek learning
- 8:29even by study, and also by faith.
- 8:32Paul's experience in Athens reflects this exact principle.
- 8:36A true and saving knowledge about the nature of God and the
- 8:39gospel is not something that can be worked out by ourselves to
- 8:42suit our own predilections. Rather, truth and goodness must
- 8:47be accompanied by a willingness to follow God and accept His
- 8:51will in our lives. As we follow Paul's example, we
- 8:55could more fully seek learning, even by study and also by faith,
- 9:00and seek to maintain the Spirit in our lives.
- 9:03President Russell F Nelson has taught become an engaged
- 9:07learner. Immerse yourselves in the
- 9:09scriptures to understand better Christ's mission and ministry.
- 9:13Know the doctrine of Christ so that you understand its power
- 9:17for your life. As we do so, we can, like Paul,
- 9:22be able to distinguish truth from error more clearly, make
- 9:26more inspired choices, and come to feel the Savior's love more
- 9:30powerfully in our lives. Thank you for listening to this
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- 9:39For more information, please visit scripturecentral.org.