Latest / The Huddle / 11/02/26 - Hour 3
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Wisconsin, and welcome to the huddle. It's time
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- 0:23Speaker 1: Now, gather around because it's time to huddle up. We're
- 0:26Speaker 1: going down. We got some big plays coming.
- 0:30Speaker 2: What the hell's going on out here?
- 0:32Speaker 3: Yellow weasel.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Quit calling the f * * * ing plays, all right?
- 0:37Speaker 1: It is time.
- 0:38Speaker 2: What do you think you are?
- 0:41Speaker 1: I am.
- 0:41Speaker 3: With Drew Olsen. When he spoke, he commanded your attention
- 0:45Speaker 3: and he commanded your respect. Bill Schmidt.
- 0:48Speaker 2: That son of a gun is thick.
- 0:49Speaker 3: And Armin Sarian.
- 0:51Speaker 2: Daddy Sarian.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Welcome to the huddle.
- 1:04Speaker 2: The boys are back in the huddle. Fox Sports Radio
- 1:07Speaker 2: Wisconsin adjusting to life as World Series champions in our town.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Recovered from the parade. The hangover is starting to fade
- 1:14Speaker 2: into memory. We got basketball season upon us now. We're
- 1:19Speaker 2: on to basketball football season in full swing here. We're
- 1:22Speaker 2: going to have another Thursday Night Huddle for you at
- 1:24Speaker 2: Pottawatomie Sportsbook. Oh, yes. Which will be great.
- 1:28Speaker 4: Maybe not a great Thursday night football game after that,
- 1:31Speaker 4: but a great Thursday night huddle.
- 1:33Speaker 2: Big Monday night of college hoops tonight. Bucks and Wolves, Marquette, Mercyhurst, Badgers, Denver. And,
- 1:39Speaker 2: of course, you can hate watch the Seahawks and Bears
- 1:42Speaker 2: on Monday Night Football.
- 1:43Speaker 5: If you are so inclined. I heard it was a
- 1:45Speaker 5: busy weekend, especially after the parade of people cashing their
- 1:50Speaker 5: futures in. A lot of people cashing tickets in.
- 1:54Speaker 2: A lot of Brewers fans that had faith in their team.
- 1:57Speaker 2: I walked in there. Our friends at pot allowed me
- 1:59Speaker 2: a lot of money. So I walked in, uh, I
- 2:01Speaker 2: think it was Sunday. One of the days this past weekend, shockingly,
- 2:04Speaker 2: I was there a couple.
- 2:05Speaker 4: Um, I had to, had to make some college investments,
- 2:07Speaker 4: had to make some pros, a lot of games on WNBA,
- 2:09Speaker 4: mostly donations.
- 2:10Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:11Speaker 4: Um, and the, uh, the, the security guy at the front,
- 2:14Speaker 4: I had a brewer shirt on drew and he goes,
- 2:15Speaker 4: they're giving away a lot of money in there, brother.
- 2:19Speaker 4: They're giving away a lot of money down there. They
- 2:21Speaker 4: lost a lot. So, yeah, Armin, I think there was
- 2:24Speaker 4: a steady procession of Brewers fans going to cash in
- 2:27Speaker 4: those futures throughout the last couple of days.
- 2:30Speaker 2: So Cubs fans are celebrating the 10th anniversary of their
- 2:32Speaker 2: World Series 10 years ago today. You want to talk
- 2:35Speaker 2: about a hate watch? Game 7. And they came back
- 2:37Speaker 2: from 3-1 down, didn't they? Yes. That sounds right. Yes,
- 2:41Speaker 2: they were down 3-1.
- 2:42Speaker 3: Oh, yes.
- 2:43Speaker 2: So now the Brewers are off the schneid. They're off
- 2:46Speaker 2: the list of the longest World Series droughts. Which, you know,
- 2:49Speaker 2: the Padres, still up there.
- 2:51Speaker 3: Mariners.
- 2:52Speaker 2: Mariners, right, right. Guardians at the top of the list
- 2:54Speaker 2: was 78 years. That's got to be the most painful
- 2:57Speaker 2: one existing. Padres at 58. Mariners at 50. The Pirates
- 3:01Speaker 2: at 47 since the We Are Family year, I guess. Wow,
- 3:04Speaker 2: that's true. Baltimore Orioles at 43. The Tigers, 42 seasons.
- 3:08Speaker 2: The Mets have gone 40 years since 1986. The Tigers
- 3:11Speaker 2: were close. Oakland A's, 37 years. Cincinnati Reds, 36 years.
- 3:15Speaker 2: They won in 1990. And then the Twins, 35 years, 91. Wow.
- 3:20Speaker 2: Those are the top 10 longest droughts. Brewers are off
- 3:23Speaker 2: the list.
- 3:24Speaker 4: The drought list was one, but it was the not
- 3:26Speaker 4: having ever won one that I think is the tougher list.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Mariners are the only team now to
- 3:32Speaker 2: never make it to a World Series. I was going
- 3:33Speaker 2: to say, at least a lot of those teams have
- 3:35Speaker 2: made it, but the Mariners still. Mariners have never made it.
- 3:37Speaker 5: And they've had some good course. They've had some good course.
- 3:39Speaker 5: That's the thing about it is that's.
- 3:42Speaker 2: Got to be brutal. I mean, I wouldn't know anymore.
- 3:45Speaker 4: But today being 10 years to the day of the
- 3:50Speaker 4: 2016 team, I had a friend of mine in college
- 3:52Speaker 4: who was the biggest Cubs fan I've ever met. Text
- 3:55Speaker 4: me a couple of weeks ago, right around the end
- 3:59Speaker 4: of the DS drew. And he said, I hate to
- 4:01Speaker 4: say it, but this team gives me 2016 Cubs fives.
- 4:05Speaker 4: And I think there's a lot of baseball people that
- 4:07Speaker 4: would probably draw a couple of comparisons between the two
- 4:10Speaker 4: with how young they were, how seemingly fully established though,
- 4:14Speaker 4: as big league players, they had turned into right. Like
- 4:16Speaker 4: at that point, Chris Bryant winning the MVP, he's going
- 4:19Speaker 4: to be the best player in the sport for the
- 4:21Speaker 4: next decade.
- 4:22Speaker 2: Turns out a decade later, he can't even play in
- 4:24Speaker 2: the sport.
- 4:24Speaker 5: That's the part of the 2016 Cubs I don't want
- 4:27Speaker 5: it to feel like. I want it to feel like
- 4:29Speaker 5: them for this year now to win the World Series,
- 4:31Speaker 5: which it did. Thank goodness we won the World Series.
- 4:33Speaker 2: It's real.
- 4:34Speaker 5: Now I don't want to be like them ever again
- 4:37Speaker 5: from this point forward because they're kind of a picture
- 4:39Speaker 5: of a failure of a dynasty.
- 4:43Speaker 4: The day after that title. Now, I don't know that
- 4:45Speaker 4: we did any of that, mostly just because all we
- 4:47Speaker 4: could think about was... celebrating the fact that you had
- 4:50Speaker 4: won the world series and it wasn't the greatest thing
- 4:52Speaker 4: since sliced bread was like, how many more are they
- 4:56Speaker 4: going to win?
- 4:57Speaker 2: It seemed like it was inevitable right now.
- 4:58Speaker 4: Brian Kenny's doing a really sweet best regular season run
- 5:01Speaker 4: differentials drew since 1995. The Brewers are up there with
- 5:05Speaker 4: those 2016 Cubs, the 2018 Red Sox. Now for other
- 5:09Speaker 4: reasons that that one pulled away, but all those teams
- 5:12Speaker 4: were right around in the early portions of what you
- 5:16Speaker 4: thought was the dynasty and The 98 Yankees were the
- 5:18Speaker 4: only ones that cashed in on it. I think it's
- 5:21Speaker 4: interesting how maybe the sport has just changed so much
- 5:24Speaker 4: in those 10 years, but that wasn't the immediate story.
- 5:28Speaker 4: And maybe it was because the Brewers hadn't won one,
- 5:30Speaker 4: but it felt like immediately after that Cubs title, it was,
- 5:33Speaker 4: all right, now how many more are they going to
- 5:35Speaker 4: haul off and win? Now it feels like the dynasty
- 5:38Speaker 4: talk is far different in this sport, maybe more than
- 5:42Speaker 4: all the others do.
- 5:44Speaker 2: The conversation is different. There's no question. Time for a
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- 5:58Speaker 2: who's not? Who's hot?
- 5:59Speaker 4: Lauren Bowers. Because now they're never going to have to
- 6:02Speaker 4: worry about health insurance. The Bowers family is never going
- 6:05Speaker 4: to have to worry about health insurance. Jake Bowers, if
- 6:08Speaker 4: you're just joining us about 20 minutes ago, was extended
- 6:10Speaker 4: the qualifying offer for the Milwaukee Brewers. Him and his wife, Lauren,
- 6:14Speaker 4: rose to stardom over the last couple of months, mostly
- 6:17Speaker 4: because Jake Bowers was awesome. That was a three-plus war
- 6:21Speaker 4: player this year, Armin? Our best hitter for a while.
- 6:24Speaker 4: Most of that was offensive. Now, he was a career
- 6:27Speaker 4: two war player?
- 6:28Speaker 1: Career.
- 6:29Speaker 2: This is a cumulative stat. And he had a 3.3
- 6:30Speaker 2: war this year with 26 bombs and an OPS of.
- 6:37Speaker 2: And it was money time. He came through in the NLCS.
- 6:41Speaker 2: What was the exact number?
- 6:44Speaker 1: 23.4?
- 6:44Speaker 2: Yeah, 23 something.
- 6:47Speaker 5: $ 23.
- 6:47Speaker 2: 4 million on the qualifying offer for Jake Bowers.
- 6:50Speaker 4: Hot!
- 6:51Speaker 2: Hot for that family.
- 6:52Speaker 4: They're not going to have to worry about their health
- 6:53Speaker 4: insurance plan going forward because I would be signing that
- 6:56Speaker 4: right away. I would assume there's more in it and
- 6:59Speaker 4: that there's more maturations of this. And when Jake Bowers, Drew,
- 7:02Speaker 4: told Pat Murphy, you're not going to get rid of
- 7:04Speaker 4: me that easy. Maybe they all knew something. Maybe there
- 7:09Speaker 4: was some scheming going on behind Glover's doors that we
- 7:12Speaker 4: weren't privy to quite yet. Also in the hot category,
- 7:16Speaker 4: Drake May, Packers' next opponent, was hot in the second
- 7:19Speaker 4: half yesterday as the New England Patriots survived down in
- 7:24Speaker 4: Miami 24-19. Drake May had an absolute disaster. dimer deep
- 7:28Speaker 4: to Kyle Williams that started up to scoring more into
- 7:31Speaker 4: the second half. The Patriots were down 13, three at
- 7:35Speaker 4: the break outscore the fins 21 to six in the
- 7:39Speaker 4: second half in may was 16 to 20, a buck
- 7:41Speaker 4: 99 and two touchdowns as well as rushing for one
- 7:45Speaker 4: drew Packers are going to have to find some kind
- 7:47Speaker 4: of way to be able to slow that cat down.
- 7:48Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:49Speaker 5: They kind of learned a disaster though. Cause that would
- 7:50Speaker 5: have been a bad loss, but they didn't do it.
- 7:53Speaker 2: They didn't lose. So they avoided the disaster.
- 7:57Speaker 4: They avoided being who's not hot, the Dallas Cowboys, because
- 8:01Speaker 4: they were not able to avoid disaster yesterday.
- 8:03Speaker 5: They're just like a character of themselves. Now, they were
- 8:06Speaker 5: some crazy number when being up 14 in the fourth.
- 8:09Speaker 2: I don't remember.
- 8:09Speaker 5: I think it was like only one tie, no losses,
- 8:11Speaker 5: and like 100 wins or some crazy number, and they
- 8:15Speaker 5: blew this one.
- 8:16Speaker 4: Dallas, I mean, they led the game. What point in
- 8:20Speaker 4: the game do I talk about? They led it by
- 8:21Speaker 4: 10 throughout most of the game. They're up 17 to
- 8:24Speaker 4: 3 in.
- 8:26Speaker 2: The late stages of the third quarter.
- 8:29Speaker 4: When we got into the fourth quarter, it was a
- 8:33Speaker 4: long touchdown by Tyler Algier that started it up.
- 8:38Speaker 2: 63 yarder.
- 8:39Speaker 4: And they're like, Whoa, okay. This is, this is only
- 8:41Speaker 4: a one score game. Maybe we got to wake up here. Oh,
- 8:44Speaker 4: Dak Prescott runs it in. Don't worry about it. And
- 8:46Speaker 4: then quickly the onslaught was on Tyler Algier. Again, Trey
- 8:50Speaker 4: McBride was left wide open in the end zone with
- 8:53Speaker 4: two 11 ago, Brandon Aubrey called him to town. And
- 8:56Speaker 4: then Michael Wilson drew, it looked like they were going
- 8:58Speaker 4: to walk them off in regulation, catches a touchdown with
- 9:01Speaker 4: six seconds to go. Chad Ryland goes all Trey smack
- 9:05Speaker 4: on him, misses the extra point, sends this game into overtime,
- 9:09Speaker 4: gets redemption, wins it 33-30.
- 9:11Speaker 2: Who's not hot? The Dallas Cowboys.
- 9:13Speaker 4: They lost to Gardner Minshew, who was inserted in just
- 9:17Speaker 4: before that fourth quarter, finished the game 17-23, a buck 88,
- 9:23Speaker 4: three TDs, and shock to no one, Drew, within the
- 9:27Speaker 4: last hour was named the new Arizona Cardinals starting quarterback.
- 9:32Speaker 2: Go figure.
- 9:33Speaker 4: I'm stunned by that development. Who's not hot, though? Jacoby
- 9:36Speaker 4: Brissett was not just demoted to the... Drew was not
- 9:39Speaker 4: just demoted to the second string quarterback. Mike LaFleur let
- 9:43Speaker 4: us all know Carson Beck is the two. Jacoby Brissett
- 9:46Speaker 4: went from the penthouse to the outhouse. Brother, you're now
- 9:50Speaker 4: the third string emergency quarterback.
- 9:52Speaker 2: Good luck.
- 9:52Speaker 4: I hope that holdout that he did during minicamp worked out.
- 9:56Speaker 2: I guess I won't be starting him in fantasy again
- 9:58Speaker 2: this week. Pretty tough. Holdout, how's that working for him? Well,
- 10:02Speaker 2: maybe he needed that money. How about this? Who's hot?
- 10:06Speaker 2: Brandon Iyuk hires Drew Rosenhaus as his agent as he
- 10:09Speaker 2: eyes return to the NFL.
- 10:12Speaker 4: Maybe that should be reserved for our wake and bake
- 10:14Speaker 4: story as that guy still is trying to get himself
- 10:16Speaker 4: back into the NFL. His last appearance in an NFL game, Drew,
- 10:20Speaker 4: was over two years ago, October 20th, 2024.
- 10:23Speaker 2: Who's hot? Who's not? Brought to you by Donovan Jorgensen.
- 10:27Speaker 2: Brewers transaction list for the day. They exercised William Contreras' option. Beautiful.
- 10:32Speaker 2: No shock. They declined the option on Gary Sanchez, which
- 10:36Speaker 2: was a mutual option, and Antonio Sensatella. That was a
- 10:40Speaker 2: club option. They weren't going to pay him $ 15 million
- 10:43Speaker 2: or whatever it is. Oh, no, no, no. They extended
- 10:45Speaker 2: the qualifying hour to Jake Bowers. We talked about $ 23 million.
- 10:48Speaker 2: Akil Badu, remember him? Got hurt in camp and stuff.
- 10:51Speaker 2: Never saw him all year, basically. Yeah, he was supposed
- 10:53Speaker 2: to be on the 40, right? Claimed off waivers by Pittsburgh. Okay.
- 10:56Speaker 2: Then Bryce Wilson cleared waivers. Did you do it? Was
- 10:59Speaker 2: outrighted to AAA Nashville. Of course he was. As did
- 11:03Speaker 2: Jared Koenig, who was outrighted to AAA Nashville. He elected
- 11:06Speaker 2: free agency. And Bryce Wilson will be a minor league
- 11:09Speaker 2: free agent.
- 11:11Speaker 4: Bryce Wilson's going to pitch again for the Brewers.
- 11:13Speaker 2: He'll be back. At some point.
- 11:14Speaker 4: Oh, he can't get rid of it. Like that bad
- 11:16Speaker 4: coffee you just can't get rid of. The Jared Koenig
- 11:19Speaker 4: one is another good example of a dude that you
- 11:22Speaker 4: sure thought was going to be a massive piece for
- 11:24Speaker 4: you this year, right?
- 11:25Speaker 2: Good point. They rung a lot out of that rag. Oh,
- 11:29Speaker 2: that bar rag.
- 11:29Speaker 5: But he was a factor going into it. You're like,
- 11:32Speaker 5: all right, he's part of this bullpen. He's part of
- 11:33Speaker 5: the system.
- 11:34Speaker 4: But for the better part of the first three months
- 11:36Speaker 4: when you were trying to straighten out that bullpen, because
- 11:38Speaker 4: right when Zerpa goes down, like, okay, well, it's fine.
- 11:41Speaker 2: Jared Koenig's going to come back.
- 11:43Speaker 4: And then he finally ended up punting on that in what,
- 11:45Speaker 4: the middle of June when you realized that one wasn't happening?
- 11:47Speaker 2: Never came back.
- 11:48Speaker 5: The twists and turns are amazing in that sense. I mean,
- 11:51Speaker 5: we thought Priester was going to be a huge part
- 11:53Speaker 5: of this situation after last year.
- 11:56Speaker 2: People forget he's in the mix for rotation. What's the
- 11:59Speaker 2: Jojo Romero? He's a free agent, too. He's a free
- 12:02Speaker 2: agent as well.
- 12:03Speaker 5: Would you consider bringing him maybe around again? Would he
- 12:05Speaker 5: be a piece that you say, okay, he was elite
- 12:07Speaker 5: in the playoffs? I would think about maybe that you
- 12:10Speaker 5: get the right deal.
- 12:11Speaker 4: I don't know what relievers ultimately cost in command and
- 12:14Speaker 4: free agency in that span, but I liked him. I'd
- 12:17Speaker 4: bring him back as a left-handed arm because most likely
- 12:20Speaker 4: you've got to face the Dodgers again.
- 12:21Speaker 2: So the Brewers picked up Contreras' option for $ 15. 5 million,
- 12:25Speaker 2: which tells you that they weren't going to go to
- 12:28Speaker 2: arbitration with him because he would have made more. Yeah,
- 12:30Speaker 2: for sure. So he's going to make $ 15 million. And then,
- 12:35Speaker 2: so he's going from $ 9 to $ 15. And they got
- 12:37Speaker 2: a lot of guys making significant bumps. So it's like
- 12:40Speaker 2: if they run it back and they let a guy
- 12:41Speaker 2: or two go and people say they're cheap, Well, you've
- 12:44Speaker 2: got to factor that in. It's like the guys that
- 12:46Speaker 2: they have bringing the team back got more expensive. Well,
- 12:49Speaker 2: today they're like 10 or 12 guys that are facing
- 12:51Speaker 2: arbitration going to make more money. So the Jake Bowers
- 12:54Speaker 2: thing doesn't confirm that he's for sure a brewer. He
- 12:56Speaker 2: has until the 17th. So he has like, what, two,
- 12:59Speaker 2: a little more than two weeks to decide whether to
- 13:01Speaker 2: accept it. I would accept it if I was him.
- 13:03Speaker 2: I would accept it tomorrow. Actually, I would have accepted
- 13:06Speaker 2: it yesterday. 23 mil, I'll take it.
- 13:08Speaker 4: But in the midst of it, that immediately, Drew, you
- 13:11Speaker 4: look at, Contreras to rang, who's going to go from
- 13:14Speaker 4: two to nine or two to 10. And, and that
- 13:17Speaker 4: money that you did right there, their payroll is going
- 13:20Speaker 4: to jump significantly this year from where it was a
- 13:23Speaker 4: year ago. And I mean their payroll from a year ago, it's,
- 13:26Speaker 4: it's kind of funny to think of that. Woodruff was
- 13:29Speaker 4: a huge piece of that, that you ended up getting
- 13:31Speaker 4: seven starts in one inning in the playoffs from.
- 13:34Speaker 2: I mean, their payroll was 140 and more than 40
- 13:36Speaker 2: of it was pretty, Woodruff and Yellich, Woodruff and Yellich,
- 13:41Speaker 2: Woodruff and Yellich.
- 13:42Speaker 4: And I mean, Jackson's going to, his number goes up
- 13:44Speaker 4: steadily throughout and whatever the Pratt and Lars, those numbers
- 13:48Speaker 4: all do. But you start just wondering where the, where
- 13:53Speaker 4: the changes come because they just, they will, they always do.
- 13:57Speaker 4: And teams are going to want a bite of this.
- 13:59Speaker 4: They're going to want a piece and they're going to
- 14:01Speaker 4: want to try and grab somebody. I thought Jake Bowers
- 14:04Speaker 4: was going to get the Larry Brown deal from somebody else.
- 14:07Speaker 4: But apparently that might be from the Milwaukee Brewers that
- 14:09Speaker 4: he gets a great deal. And hopefully it's way better
- 14:11Speaker 4: than Larry Brown ever was. Well, yes, absolutely that.
- 14:14Speaker 2: That's the more important one.
- 14:15Speaker 5: That's if we consider the qualifying offer. I know it sounds,
- 14:17Speaker 5: it seems that way, but you never know. All it
- 14:18Speaker 5: takes is one team that wants to make a splash
- 14:21Speaker 5: to say, well, we're giving NLCS MVP three years, 55,
- 14:25Speaker 5: you know, all it takes is one team to do that.
- 14:27Speaker 5: Like I would agree with you, Billy. I don't think
- 14:29Speaker 5: it's going to happen, but it's really hard to say.
- 14:31Speaker 5: It's hard to say what's going to happen in the
- 14:32Speaker 5: saw season. We just don't know. Teams want a piece
- 14:35Speaker 5: of a champion. I know what fans are going to say.
- 14:37Speaker 5: We'll increase the payroll. You made a lot of money
- 14:40Speaker 5: on us and merchant and tickets. We know you made
- 14:43Speaker 5: a profit time to increase the payroll. I know Brewers
- 14:45Speaker 5: fans are going to say that even though the team
- 14:47Speaker 5: doesn't get all of it, that might be the next
- 14:49Speaker 5: step of it. So we'll see if there's a little
- 14:51Speaker 5: PJ Tucker situation in a couple of weeks of fans,
- 14:53Speaker 5: not being happy.
- 14:54Speaker 2: So that money drew for Contreras.
- 14:57Speaker 4: What would you think that does for what people want
- 15:00Speaker 4: him to be for a long-term deal? That 15 is
- 15:04Speaker 4: because you're right. That means that he was probably going
- 15:06Speaker 4: to win the arbitration, win.
- 15:07Speaker 2: Arbitration and get like 20 something or, you know, probably more.
- 15:11Speaker 4: And that's significantly more than anybody else at that position
- 15:13Speaker 4: is making. So for them to reset the market, maybe
- 15:16Speaker 4: that is a little bit different thought than they want
- 15:18Speaker 4: to be picturing. Cause it just, these, these deals are
- 15:21Speaker 4: so different than it is in the NFL. The NFL
- 15:24Speaker 4: deals are easy. I just look at what this guy made.
- 15:27Speaker 4: I just give you a hundred grand more. I just
- 15:29Speaker 4: give you a million more and boom. Then we get
- 15:31Speaker 4: to post. You're the highest paid guy ever. Schefter tags
- 15:34Speaker 4: me in the post. I get some bump and everything's good.
- 15:37Speaker 2: And William said it.
- 15:38Speaker 5: He's like, I don't want to disrespect anyone in this league,
- 15:40Speaker 5: other catchers at all, but I feel like I'm the best.
- 15:43Speaker 5: He's 28.
- 15:43Speaker 2: He's at the peak of his powers.
- 15:45Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 15:46Speaker 2: You would think you'd hope that he could continue to
- 15:47Speaker 2: catch for another four years. If you gave him a
- 15:50Speaker 2: four year deal.
- 15:50Speaker 3: Yep.
- 15:51Speaker 2: At that level.
- 15:52Speaker 5: I think you, you have to pay him like that.
- 15:54Speaker 5: I mean, that would be the number. Around the Cal Raleigh,
- 15:56Speaker 5: you'd be in that mix. And all I'm thinking is
- 15:59Speaker 5: Sal Perez.
- 16:01Speaker 4: Now, he's not the same hitter maybe as Sal was,
- 16:04Speaker 4: but Salvi Perez won, what, five gold gloves there for
- 16:07Speaker 4: a run? Incredible Hall of Fame defensive catcher. But he
- 16:13Speaker 4: also still, I mean, he's still behind the dish a
- 16:15Speaker 4: number of different times throughout, and it's not like he's
- 16:18Speaker 4: a bad player. He's still, at worst, a plus 700
- 16:21Speaker 4: OPS guy.
- 16:22Speaker 2: He's still not a hole in the lineup at all.
- 16:24Speaker 2: He's helping you. Yeah, I think it's. And he ends
- 16:28Speaker 2: up being your captain.
- 16:29Speaker 4: Now, that would be, you know, that's a different conversation
- 16:31Speaker 4: for in four years when Yelich ends up going into
- 16:34Speaker 4: the broadcasting booth.
- 16:35Speaker 5: It would be hard for me to say you're honestly
- 16:37Speaker 5: telling yourself we're trying our best to win again if
- 16:39Speaker 5: you don't bring back, if you don't sign William. It
- 16:41Speaker 5: would be hard for me to sit there and say
- 16:43Speaker 5: you're honestly saying that because his value is immeasurable.
- 16:46Speaker 2: I'm sorry. It was. But the thing is, you can't GM.
- 16:50Speaker 2: You can't. run your team thinking about what fans think
- 16:53Speaker 2: and stuff. Of course.
- 16:54Speaker 1: Of course.
- 16:55Speaker 2: If the, would the Mariners want to check swing on
- 16:57Speaker 2: Cal Raleigh's $ 105 million deal right now? That's fair. But how,
- 17:02Speaker 2: how could you possibly predict that he was going to
- 17:04Speaker 2: drop off that thing? I'm sorry. It's just, We're talking
- 17:07Speaker 2: about a guy that you don't think it could happen,
- 17:08Speaker 2: but Oh my $ 105 million.
- 17:11Speaker 4: But to the, as much as that happened, he could
- 17:13Speaker 4: come back and be one of the top five hitters
- 17:14Speaker 4: in the sport next year.
- 17:15Speaker 3: Right?
- 17:16Speaker 2: Like guys do that.
- 17:17Speaker 4: That's where the, that's where the changing in the ebbs
- 17:19Speaker 4: and flows will, will really surprise you. And maybe it's
- 17:22Speaker 4: only in, we see so much of it. We talked
- 17:24Speaker 4: about it with college football. Baseball is no different. That's
- 17:28Speaker 4: the baseline.
- 17:29Speaker 2: Would you give William Couturier a six year deal, a
- 17:32Speaker 2: five year deal? Then you think maybe by the end
- 17:36Speaker 2: of it, he's your first baseman, perhaps? See, that was,
- 17:38Speaker 2: and again, that's where the Bowers thing is interesting to me.
- 17:41Speaker 2: Because Drew, I kind of had it ticketed that within
- 17:43Speaker 2: three or four years, Contreras just moves over to first base.
- 17:45Speaker 2: Doing exactly what his brother did. Yeah.
- 17:47Speaker 5: Right?
- 17:47Speaker 4: Like, again, there's a lot of different case studies that
- 17:51Speaker 4: you can look at. But I'm like, that guy is...
- 17:54Speaker 4: I'm looking at maybe the Exhibit B of Exhibit A.
- 17:58Speaker 4: He kicked over to first base. And still, right now,
- 18:00Speaker 4: he's a way better hitter at first base than Wilson
- 18:03Speaker 4: Contreras ever was before behind the dish.
- 18:05Speaker 2: So maybe you get that kind of bump. I would.
- 18:08Speaker 2: But I also think.
- 18:11Speaker 2: One, not my money.
- 18:13Speaker 4: Way easier to spend the money over on this side. Also, he,
- 18:17Speaker 4: to me, would feel like if I'm going to build
- 18:20Speaker 4: an operation and a program, if I don't pay this guy,
- 18:24Speaker 4: who gets paid?
- 18:26Speaker 3: Exactly.
- 18:26Speaker 4: There's a foundation and a precedent of the human being
- 18:29Speaker 4: behind it of if this guy doesn't get it, who does?
- 18:32Speaker 4: You could very much say the same for Willie Adamas.
- 18:34Speaker 2: All right.
- 18:35Speaker 4: But that one to me is if this guy didn't
- 18:37Speaker 4: get paid, like Aaron Jones for me was a number
- 18:40Speaker 4: of years ago for the Packers. The deal numbers wise
- 18:43Speaker 4: probably wasn't great compared to what he had done on
- 18:46Speaker 4: the field and what other teams were going to pay him.
- 18:49Speaker 2: But you don't pay that kind of culture guy. Who
- 18:51Speaker 2: do you pay? All right. So then you got to
- 18:52Speaker 2: think about in a couple of years, obviously not for
- 18:55Speaker 2: a while, but Ms.
- 18:58Speaker 5: Right.
- 18:59Speaker 2: Because you can try to explore contract talks with him,
- 19:01Speaker 2: but he's just like, I'll just go year to year,
- 19:03Speaker 2: beat you in arbitration, get my money.
- 19:05Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 19:05Speaker 2: For sure. And then go to free agency. That's what
- 19:08Speaker 2: they're going to do. And that might be what Contreras' agents,
- 19:10Speaker 2: the octagon, tells them to do. And so you might
- 19:14Speaker 2: not be able to say, he might not entertain it.
- 19:16Speaker 2: I'm going to free agency to see what the market is, right? Now,
- 19:19Speaker 2: here's the other one. If it's a Yount Molitor type
- 19:21Speaker 2: thing and you can only have one, are you keeping
- 19:22Speaker 2: Contreras or Terang? It's good. Knowing that you've got Mate
- 19:25Speaker 2: coming up as the number one prospect in all of baseball,
- 19:27Speaker 2: and he's going to be cheap for five, six years,
- 19:29Speaker 2: and you might be able to give him one of
- 19:30Speaker 2: those deals. That's a really good question. That's exactly why
- 19:33Speaker 2: I'd go Contreras again. That's why I think, yeah, because
- 19:36Speaker 2: then you back up the truck, trade Terang after this season,
- 19:39Speaker 2: after one more season. Trade him, get what you can,
- 19:42Speaker 2: bring up Mate.
- 19:42Speaker 4: And you've got to think you're getting a hell of
- 19:44Speaker 4: a haul for Bryce to ring. You got to think
- 19:47Speaker 4: that would be one of the biggest trade packages. They,
- 19:49Speaker 4: the sport would be having at that time.
- 19:51Speaker 5: The data tells you though, that Bryce would be worth
- 19:53Speaker 5: more wins and he costs more too. So there's a,
- 19:57Speaker 5: there's a couple of ways to look at that, but
- 19:59Speaker 5: you're right in theory that you mean you should get
- 20:00Speaker 5: a better.
- 20:01Speaker 2: Haul for him. That's why when we're kicking around the
- 20:03Speaker 2: idea of making $ 20 million a year, isn't that just
- 20:06Speaker 2: kind of like a four 20 thing? Just think about it.
- 20:07Speaker 1: Yes.
- 20:07Speaker 5: Yes.
- 20:09Speaker 2: It is the numbers that we throw around with sports
- 20:11Speaker 2: and athletes. You just, it's mind boggling.
- 20:14Speaker 4: But drew every single time that I, uh, think about,
- 20:17Speaker 4: and I'm excited to get home and enjoy my happy place.
- 20:20Speaker 4: But when I put that money into that big old
- 20:22Speaker 4: red Wisconsin lottery machine and I press mega bucks and Powerball.
- 20:26Speaker 2: I'm doing that, 420. What are you? I thought.
- 20:28Speaker 4: I'm having all these conversations of how I'm going to
- 20:30Speaker 4: move around a couple million.
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- 20:52Speaker 2: come back, Wayne Larrabee, the voice of the Packers, is
- 20:54Speaker 2: going to join us. Talk about what happened in the
- 20:57Speaker 2: league yesterday. What did we learn? Vikings no longer unbeaten.
- 21:00Speaker 2: Division race heating up and a trip to Foxboro coming
- 21:05Speaker 2: up at the end of this week. The voice of
- 21:07Speaker 2: the Packers joins us next. You're in the huddle. Fox
- 21:09Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Wisconsin. Back on the huddle. Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin.
- 21:19Speaker 2: Drew Wilson, Bill Schmidt, Armin Sarian. your three Musketeers here
- 21:24Speaker 2: at headquarters. Happy to be joined by the voice of
- 21:26Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers. He's rested and ready after a
- 21:29Speaker 2: weekend off watching football and being on the couch. It's
- 21:32Speaker 2: Wayne Larravee joining us. Wayne, welcome to the program. Did
- 21:35Speaker 2: you have a good weekend? Did you have a good
- 21:36Speaker 2: Sunday on the couch?
- 21:38Speaker 3: It was a good weekend. Yes, guys, it was. Saw
- 21:41Speaker 3: a lot of football and enjoyed it, both the college
- 21:44Speaker 3: and pro game.
- 21:45Speaker 4: Well, the, uh, the college game we mentioned, Wayne, you,
- 21:47Speaker 4: you watched and you called games in college football for
- 21:50Speaker 4: a long time.
- 21:51Speaker 2: Did you ever see it be this week to week?
- 21:53Speaker 2: I mean, it is a lot. Some of these teams are,
- 21:55Speaker 2: you think this team is going to win the national
- 21:57Speaker 2: title one week and the next week they can't beat, uh,
- 22:00Speaker 2: you know, Rutgers are seemingly the Citadel. It is a wild,
- 22:03Speaker 2: wild sport.
- 22:04Speaker 3: Yeah. And, and close to our backyard, obviously, uh, the
- 22:07Speaker 3: Badgers one week, the USC and, you know, and an
- 22:11Speaker 3: outstanding performance in the next week, go to Iowa and
- 22:14Speaker 3: get boat raced. Meanwhile, USC goes home, faces number two,
- 22:18Speaker 3: Ohio state and wins. Just, you don't know how this
- 22:22Speaker 3: is going to go week to week, this football stuff.
- 22:25Speaker 3: So what's happened to the NFL is now happening in
- 22:27Speaker 3: college football. All the player movement, Billy, I believe has
- 22:32Speaker 3: in part led to this up and down week to
- 22:35Speaker 3: week game that we see.
- 22:37Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. And it's getting very much.
- 22:39Speaker 4: And it's entertaining. No doubt about it. It's just hard
- 22:41Speaker 4: to bet on. It's really hard to bet on. They've
- 22:45Speaker 4: got to figure it out. They've got to change this up.
- 22:47Speaker 4: Because right now, Wayne, the kids don't know if they're
- 22:49Speaker 4: coming or going. And if we don't know what the
- 22:51Speaker 4: kids are thinking, the kids don't know what they're thinking,
- 22:54Speaker 4: it's hard for us to invest on it.
- 22:55Speaker 3: Now it's horse racing, Billy. Now it's the Breeders' Cup.
- 22:59Speaker 3: In horse racing, we don't know anything about nothing. We
- 23:05Speaker 3: know nothing about anything.
- 23:06Speaker 4: But at least you get good odds. At least you
- 23:08Speaker 4: get better odds than you do in football. That's the problem,
- 23:12Speaker 4: which is wild.
- 23:13Speaker 2: So, Wayne, I was very much looking forward to Lions
- 23:16Speaker 2: and Vikings, and I kind of knew in the back
- 23:17Speaker 2: of my mind it would be a rock fight, and
- 23:20Speaker 2: it kind of was. And it was like, did we
- 23:23Speaker 2: learn anything from that game that we didn't already know?
- 23:26Speaker 3: Well, just the Jack Campbell situation, which I still don't
- 23:31Speaker 3: have a good feel for as to whether he's going
- 23:34Speaker 3: to be okay or not. A lot of reports of
- 23:37Speaker 3: the Lions had a statement coming out today or whatever,
- 23:39Speaker 3: and I just didn't see anything that was different from
- 23:42Speaker 3: what we knew over the weekend. That was really hard
- 23:44Speaker 3: to watch. Beyond that, I thought for sure Detroit would
- 23:48Speaker 3: beat Minnesota. I don't think Minnesota's invincible by any stretch
- 23:52Speaker 3: of the imagination, and they're going to need a little
- 23:54Speaker 3: more out of that offense, a little more consistency against
- 23:58Speaker 3: the good teams to win meaningful games. And I don't
- 24:02Speaker 3: think Detroit is unbeatable either. But I did think they
- 24:05Speaker 3: would beat Minnesota, and they prevailed. Yeah, it was a
- 24:07Speaker 3: rock fight. I didn't think it would be an up-tempo,
- 24:10Speaker 3: high-scoring game either way.
- 24:12Speaker 4: Yeah, Minnesota's quarterback situation is going to be a prohibiting factor.
- 24:17Speaker 4: It doesn't seem like Kyler's bad, Wayne, but there's a
- 24:21Speaker 4: level to where their offense is, and that offense that
- 24:24Speaker 4: was playing and has the last couple of weeks doesn't
- 24:27Speaker 4: really look like a Kevin O'Connell offense has when you
- 24:29Speaker 4: see it humming with Darnold or Cousins. He hasn't been
- 24:33Speaker 4: able to master any of their core principles of just
- 24:37Speaker 4: being able to hit Justin Jefferson on as many crossing
- 24:39Speaker 4: routes as possible.
- 24:41Speaker 3: Yeah, and the timing of it looks a little bit
- 24:45Speaker 3: off to me, Billy. You know, Kyler's not the kind of,
- 24:49Speaker 3: he's not the same kind of quarterback that has been successful.
- 24:52Speaker 3: The Kirk Cousins, Sam Darnold, those quarterbacks, they're pocket passers.
- 24:56Speaker 3: They make a read and make the throw. If the
- 24:59Speaker 3: read's not there, they move to the next one really quickly.
- 25:02Speaker 3: That's not really Kyler Murray, and it never has been.
- 25:06Speaker 3: He's more outside the pocket. He's more moving around, buying
- 25:09Speaker 3: time and manufacturing something. And that's really not the Kevin O'Connell, um,
- 25:15Speaker 3: offense that we know. And it certainly can appreciate.
- 25:18Speaker 2: Did you give a watch Wayne to the Patriots and dolphins,
- 25:22Speaker 2: the fight and Halfleys gave, uh, gave Mr. Vrabel and company, uh, uh,
- 25:26Speaker 2: you know, a tussle. They hung in until they unscored
- 25:29Speaker 2: late to make it closer than maybe it was. But
- 25:32Speaker 2: did you watch any of that game in preparation for
- 25:34Speaker 2: Sunday in Foxborough?
- 25:35Speaker 3: No, I'm about to do that as soon as I'm
- 25:37Speaker 3: off of here. But, um, No surprise. You know, Hatley's
- 25:41Speaker 3: Dolphins have given everybody a hard time in one way
- 25:45Speaker 3: or another. Usually it's a tight ball game late, and
- 25:49Speaker 3: they just don't have enough to finish, Miami that is.
- 25:51Speaker 3: But the two coaches who knew head coaches who impressed me,
- 25:56Speaker 3: Hatley for sure, but really Mike LaFleur down in Arizona,
- 26:00Speaker 3: the job he's doing down there, they're down, what, 10
- 26:05Speaker 3: or 14 to the Cowboys in the second half? Ten
- 26:08Speaker 3: points in the fourth quarter. They come back. The game's tied.
- 26:11Speaker 3: At the end of regulation, they win in overtime. You know,
- 26:13Speaker 3: they've beaten the Rams. they beaten the chargers and the
- 26:17Speaker 3: Cowboys all on the road. Wow. I think if they
- 26:21Speaker 3: could stay on the road, they might go on undefeated.
- 26:23Speaker 4: Well, they got good practice because their stadium is only
- 26:27Speaker 4: usually half full with Cardinal fans. Everybody else just takes
- 26:29Speaker 4: it over, but it is impressive how they've fought and
- 26:32Speaker 4: underdogs have been pretty good. You mentioned Halfley's team that
- 26:35Speaker 4: they've covered a number of their number of their games
- 26:38Speaker 4: and to see it, Wayne, the amount of different quarterbacks
- 26:42Speaker 4: that we've watched in one in Baltimore yesterday, uh, goes
- 26:45Speaker 4: down in Lamar Jackson. Do you see teams being a
- 26:50Speaker 4: little bit more aggressive now in the trade market than
- 26:53Speaker 4: ever before? I think it's, they, there was a stat
- 26:55Speaker 4: this week that this is now the third consecutive year
- 26:58Speaker 4: that at least three guys that have been first team,
- 27:00Speaker 4: all pro formerly have been traded in the season. That's
- 27:04Speaker 4: a staggering number for where it was before, but And
- 27:07Speaker 4: it feels like maybe the Packers have somebody that teams
- 27:10Speaker 4: would be interested in and to Rod Taylor, they just
- 27:12Speaker 4: signed Cam Miller to their practice squad. Do you think
- 27:15Speaker 4: that would be a spot or that the Packers will
- 27:18Speaker 4: be in people thinking buying, but it seems like a
- 27:21Speaker 4: market that they might also, they sold once already on
- 27:24Speaker 4: Kyle McCord.
- 27:24Speaker 2: Do you think that they would do it again?
- 27:25Speaker 3: Yeah, I, that's a good question, Billy. I'm not sure
- 27:30Speaker 3: whether at the talk I'd heard was that they were
- 27:32Speaker 3: interested in Jonathan Taylor. I don't know how that meshes
- 27:36Speaker 3: with the Josh Jacobs situation they're facing now. It's hard
- 27:41Speaker 3: to tell, but I will say this, you're correct. There
- 27:45Speaker 3: is more conversation. There's more movement at the trading deadline
- 27:49Speaker 3: in the last three years. And certainly this year than
- 27:51Speaker 3: I've ever seen in the NFL. And times have changed
- 27:55Speaker 3: and people are changing out parts and players are moving
- 27:59Speaker 3: from team to team, especially the skill position players that
- 28:02Speaker 3: can maybe make a difference. He'd be a defensive pass rusher,
- 28:06Speaker 3: a cornerback, or maybe it's a running back or a
- 28:08Speaker 3: wide receiver. Guys who can fit into an offense or
- 28:12Speaker 3: defense and make an impact right away. We're seeing a
- 28:15Speaker 3: lot of that now. The Eagles made several moves last
- 28:18Speaker 3: year to try to retool and get their defense back
- 28:21Speaker 3: to Super Bowl level. Didn't quite work out. And several
- 28:24Speaker 3: of those players are now in other locations.
- 28:27Speaker 2: Just got some breaking news on the old wire here
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- 28:36Speaker 2: Thursday for the Thursday Night Huddle. And, of course, Wisconsin
- 28:39Speaker 2: Concrete Coatings. Packers are signing free agent quarterback Cam Miller
- 28:44Speaker 2: to the practice squad. He was a sixth-round pick in
- 28:47Speaker 2: last year's draft out of North Dakota State. The FCS
- 28:52Speaker 2: MVP in 2024, Billy.
- 28:54Speaker 4: Yeah, and as I was just asking Wayne, I think
- 28:57Speaker 4: that means that they might be in conversations and maybe
- 29:02Speaker 4: Terod Taylor is open for business because the Ravens, I
- 29:05Speaker 4: can't think, are just going to sit on their hands
- 29:06Speaker 4: and watch a season go by. I can't think the
- 29:09Speaker 4: Eagles are going to watch more games than they watched
- 29:11Speaker 4: last night. Either they're going to trade somebody or they're
- 29:14Speaker 4: going to try to go make a move. And the
- 29:16Speaker 4: Vikings see a limitation where they are.
- 29:18Speaker 2: I would think. And hell, J.J.
- 29:20Speaker 4: McCarthy looked like he was the worst player anybody had
- 29:22Speaker 4: seen play the position. And he jump-started the Giants to
- 29:25Speaker 4: the point where they beat the Texans on the road.
- 29:27Speaker 4: So that position, Wayne, teams wouldn't. We talk about teams
- 29:30Speaker 4: not wanting to trade. That position in particular, teams wouldn't
- 29:33Speaker 4: have necessarily thought of.
- 29:34Speaker 2: Billy smelled these winds of coming because you were asking
- 29:36Speaker 2: me about whether they would listen to offers on Tyron. Taylor.
- 29:40Speaker 4: It'd be a roll of the dice, right? But if
- 29:44Speaker 4: the winds are right, I could see it. And if
- 29:46Speaker 4: they could get draft capital. Because, Wayne, you and I
- 29:49Speaker 4: talked about it last year during our draft show that
- 29:51Speaker 4: this upcoming year seems to be where a lot of
- 29:54Speaker 4: the talent has sat back to and waited for and
- 29:58Speaker 4: that this is going to be one of the better
- 30:00Speaker 4: drafts that you can ultimately find.
- 30:02Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right, Bill. You know, just looking
- 30:04Speaker 3: at the landscape of college football and where they're at
- 30:07Speaker 3: now with these guys and now that they're out of
- 30:10Speaker 3: these six and seven year cups.
- 30:12Speaker 2: Thank God.
- 30:13Speaker 3: I mean, is this Animal House or what? You know,
- 30:16Speaker 3: I'm an eighth year senior.
- 30:17Speaker 2: Used to be doctors. That's right.
- 30:20Speaker 3: I just don't want to leave campus, man. I'm telling you,
- 30:23Speaker 3: I'm having too good a time. But, you know, I
- 30:26Speaker 3: think that part of it is we've gone through that.
- 30:29Speaker 3: And yes, we're going to have players in the draft
- 30:31Speaker 3: who have a lot of experience and are players who
- 30:34Speaker 3: have really honed their skills. And you know what, guys?
- 30:38Speaker 3: I understand they may be a year or two older
- 30:40Speaker 3: than the scouts would like. But the scouts also like
- 30:42Speaker 3: the fact that they know what they're getting and they
- 30:44Speaker 3: have a better idea on these older prospects than they
- 30:47Speaker 3: do on 20-year-old, 21-year-old kids.
- 30:51Speaker 2: That is a good point. That's a good point. Hey, Wayne,
- 30:54Speaker 2: the fact that Micah Parsons, all signs indicate that he
- 30:58Speaker 2: will open his window and start practicing this week. I mean,
- 31:02Speaker 2: he can't help against New England on Sunday, but does that...
- 31:05Speaker 2: Add some juice. Does that add some energy? Packers are
- 31:07Speaker 2: coming off this bye. Does having him back at practice
- 31:09Speaker 2: add energy? When they added Mekhi Becton and Kevin Zeitler,
- 31:12Speaker 2: we all thought it was a little bit energizing. They've
- 31:15Speaker 2: yet to play and do anything. But does that add
- 31:18Speaker 2: an energy? Will that help palpably, do you think, as
- 31:21Speaker 2: we move into Sunday?
- 31:23Speaker 3: I really think so, Drew, because he's such a central
- 31:26Speaker 3: figure on that team. And not just his performance on
- 31:29Speaker 3: the field, but the way he handles himself in the
- 31:32Speaker 3: locker room. and the impact he has on these players
- 31:35Speaker 3: in the locker room off the field. So that's why
- 31:38Speaker 3: I think it would be energizing. Now, it would be
- 31:40Speaker 3: great to get that talent back on the field, that's
- 31:42Speaker 3: for sure. Everybody understands that. But I think the reason
- 31:46Speaker 3: there will be juice as he hits the practice field
- 31:49Speaker 3: in the next, what, two days, Wednesday, I think has
- 31:53Speaker 3: more to do with who he is in that locker room.
- 31:55Speaker 2: What do you see in Wayne?
- 31:57Speaker 4: The Josh Jacobs thing has continued to be a developing
- 32:01Speaker 4: factor in the last couple hours. Matt LaFleur mentioned it,
- 32:03Speaker 4: that they're going to let the NFL process do its
- 32:06Speaker 4: thing and that he anticipates him being a member of
- 32:09Speaker 4: the team moving forward. That's really all I have to
- 32:11Speaker 4: speak on of the additional claims of against him of
- 32:16Speaker 4: potential abuse. More importantly, on the football field, they got
- 32:21Speaker 4: to find some kind of ground game and to be
- 32:23Speaker 4: able to find it and Drew mentioned the two others
- 32:27Speaker 4: of the new offensive linemen that have yet to be inserted.
- 32:31Speaker 4: Do you anticipate this being a fluid situation over the
- 32:36Speaker 4: next couple of weeks? Because they have the ability to
- 32:39Speaker 4: practice over the next couple of weeks with these mini
- 32:42Speaker 4: buys where maybe you can move some guys around up front.
- 32:46Speaker 3: You know, Billy, I was thinking about that today. Aaron Banks,
- 32:52Speaker 3: a lot of money invested in him. I get that.
- 32:55Speaker 3: They got him back in the lineup off his injury,
- 32:58Speaker 3: and it didn't go so well the other night, from
- 33:00Speaker 3: what the analytics tell me, from what the scouting people say.
- 33:05Speaker 3: But they do have some things. It wouldn't surprise me
- 33:09Speaker 3: if you move Tomlinson back to left guard and put
- 33:12Speaker 3: Zeitler in at right guard for this game in New England.
- 33:15Speaker 3: That wouldn't surprise me at all. At some point, Regardless
- 33:21Speaker 3: of how much money you have invested in a body
- 33:23Speaker 3: here or there, whoever they are, you need to get
- 33:26Speaker 3: your best five on the field. And here's the other thing.
- 33:30Speaker 3: I'm just being as honest as I possibly can. The
- 33:33Speaker 3: Packers went into this past weekend's games with the fewest
- 33:38Speaker 3: rushing yards per game of any team in the league
- 33:41Speaker 3: by 16 yards. That's amazing when you think about it.
- 33:47Speaker 3: You have got to be able to run. Why was
- 33:49Speaker 3: the Dallas game close? Why was the Carolina game a
- 33:53Speaker 3: one-score game? Because with four-something to go in the game
- 33:56Speaker 3: or five-something to go in the game, you got the ball.
- 33:59Speaker 3: It's an eight-point game, and you can't close a team
- 34:02Speaker 3: out because you can't run the football. You must be
- 34:04Speaker 3: able to run the ball in those situations to grind
- 34:07Speaker 3: down the clock. We talk about four-minute offense. If you
- 34:11Speaker 3: can't run the ball, you can't run a four-minute offense.
- 34:13Speaker 3: In that scenario the other night, if I'm not mistaken,
- 34:17Speaker 3: Matt called three passes. Why? Well, because at that point
- 34:20Speaker 3: in the game, he realized they weren't doing anything on
- 34:22Speaker 3: the ground. I think they had 60 yards or 58
- 34:26Speaker 3: yards against Dallas, who came in as the worst rush
- 34:29Speaker 3: defense in the league that night. And they had, I think,
- 34:32Speaker 3: 66 yards against another worst defense in the league, Carolina,
- 34:37Speaker 3: last Thursday night. So you're going to have to run
- 34:39Speaker 3: the football better. They have to find a way. Matt
- 34:42Speaker 3: mentioned that after the game. He says, it's up to us.
- 34:45Speaker 3: We've got to figure out a way to do this.
- 34:46Speaker 3: Part of it might be personnel, but I think that's
- 34:50Speaker 3: a real hard fix. They've done what they could. They
- 34:54Speaker 3: added some veteran personnel to the offensive line mix. Now,
- 34:58Speaker 3: can they put it together to where they can have
- 35:01Speaker 3: at least an efficient ground game? Because if they can't, guys,
- 35:05Speaker 3: it's going to get real hard to throw the football downfield.
- 35:09Speaker 3: Teams will play that. Two shell, two safeties high. They'll
- 35:13Speaker 3: back the cornerbacks off just a little bit. They're not
- 35:15Speaker 3: worried about you running the football. The box will be light.
- 35:19Speaker 3: And that's what's going to happen. And that'll make it
- 35:21Speaker 3: really hard on the Packers, who have so far been
- 35:24Speaker 3: a one-dimensional offense. You just can't do that. Furthermore, how
- 35:28Speaker 3: many teams have made the playoffs, being the worst rushing
- 35:33Speaker 3: team in the league, leading the league in drop passes,
- 35:36Speaker 3: and leading the league in penalties? Oof.
- 35:39Speaker 2: They've got to be a very, very razor. It's a
- 35:41Speaker 2: tough trio. If not.
- 35:42Speaker 3: That's three strikes and you're out, boys.
- 35:44Speaker 2: That is rough.
- 35:45Speaker 3: So they've got to get the running game straightened out
- 35:47Speaker 3: one form or another. And you know what? When I
- 35:50Speaker 3: saw Josh Jacobs go in there against Detroit, I said, well,
- 35:53Speaker 3: I guess it's not the back. He looked fine, but
- 35:56Speaker 3: he had nowhere to go.
- 35:58Speaker 4: Nowhere to go. And Carolina was almost tougher. Tampa ran
- 36:01Speaker 4: for 324 yards yesterday. the Packers running backs through their
- 36:05Speaker 4: first eight games have run for 435. Oh my goodness.
- 36:08Speaker 2: Well, that was a monsoon though. Oh yeah. But I mean,
- 36:11Speaker 2: it just think about it.
- 36:13Speaker 4: One team in 60 minutes has run for three quarters
- 36:17Speaker 4: of what you've been able to put together for eight games.
- 36:20Speaker 2: That's crazy.
- 36:20Speaker 4: That is.
- 36:21Speaker 3: I've never in 28 years here. I've never seen it
- 36:23Speaker 3: quite like this. I've never seen an offensive line quite
- 36:26Speaker 3: like this. And I've never seen a Packers running game
- 36:29Speaker 3: struggle like this one has and And, you know, hopefully
- 36:33Speaker 3: they'll be able to get a handle on it, put
- 36:35Speaker 3: something together as they go forward. But, boy, they've got
- 36:40Speaker 3: to have something because you have to balance your offense
- 36:42Speaker 3: somewhat in the NFL. Otherwise, those defensive coordinators, they're going
- 36:46Speaker 3: to take care of your passing game. They're going to
- 36:49Speaker 3: make it very tough for you to throw the football
- 36:52Speaker 3: if you can't.
- 36:52Speaker 2: Even with Watson and Golden, it can be hard for
- 36:55Speaker 2: them to get open.
- 36:56Speaker 3: Here's the other thing. What's incredible about Watson and Golden
- 36:59Speaker 3: is this team leads the league and drop passes 23
- 37:02Speaker 3: unofficially by, by a wide margin. And yet those guys,
- 37:08Speaker 3: and Matthew Golden leads the league and drops. And yet he's,
- 37:11Speaker 3: He and Watson are terrific. They're top 10 in all
- 37:14Speaker 3: the receiving statistics.
- 37:14Speaker 2: There's so much meat in the bone. Seventh in yards
- 37:17Speaker 2: and number one in drops for Matthew. Speaking of receivers,
- 37:20Speaker 2: my pick to click tonight is Jackson Smith and Jigba.
- 37:23Speaker 2: That's a good one. Against the Bears. I think he's
- 37:24Speaker 2: going to have a big day. As we hate-watch Monday
- 37:26Speaker 2: Night Football tonight, Wayne, what are you looking at? Both
- 37:29Speaker 2: these teams made significant trades, one on the offensive side,
- 37:33Speaker 2: one on the defensive side. They're all pros. And I
- 37:35Speaker 2: just don't know who to cheer for. I almost wish
- 37:37Speaker 2: this would be a tie.
- 37:42Speaker 3: I'll be rooting, to be honest with you guys, I'll
- 37:44Speaker 3: be rooting for Seattle. Oh, yes, for sure, man. You know, but, hey,
- 37:51Speaker 3: Jeffrey Simmons, everybody in Chicago, they got Jeffrey Simmons back. Well,
- 37:55Speaker 3: you know, the Packers are getting a guy back, too,
- 37:57Speaker 3: who's pretty good. And so maybe, so I was trying
- 38:01Speaker 3: to talk to some friends this week and say, does
- 38:03Speaker 3: that move offset their move? Packers are going to get Parsons.
- 38:07Speaker 3: They got Jeffrey Simmons.
- 38:08Speaker 2: Yeah, I like ours better. I like ours better. Similar
- 38:12Speaker 2: investment packages, but yeah. Very similar. Very similar.
- 38:16Speaker 4: And one's a little bit younger, and one plays on
- 38:17Speaker 4: the outside. Yeah, I'd be taking one over the other.
- 38:21Speaker 4: It's going to be fun. Wayne, we'll talk to you
- 38:22Speaker 4: again Friday.
- 38:23Speaker 2: Have a great week. See you, man.
- 38:25Speaker 3: You bet, guys. Talk to you Friday. Wayne, later.
- 38:27Speaker 2: I'm going to give Billy a game ball. The last
- 38:29Speaker 2: game ball of the day goes to Billy for... Just
- 38:32Speaker 2: calling that, Tyrod, you had the spidey senses tingling that
- 38:35Speaker 2: the Packers could be listening to offers because you know
- 38:37Speaker 2: the phones are starting to burn up with people looking
- 38:39Speaker 2: for quarterbacks. I got to think they're coming.
- 38:41Speaker 3: You called it.
- 38:41Speaker 2: I got to think they're coming. Billy called it. I
- 38:43Speaker 2: love it. Billy was on it. I'm on top of
- 38:44Speaker 2: the world. It doesn't get any better. There you go.
- 38:47Speaker 2: It doesn't, Sal. Back to close up shop. I'm going
- 38:50Speaker 2: to drink 100,000 beers. I wish. The Huddle, Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin.
- 39:03Speaker 2: Closing ceremonies of the Huddle, Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin, Drew Billy,
- 39:06Speaker 2: and Armin. I got to admit, it's going to take
- 39:08Speaker 2: probably the middle of this week for the fog to lift.
- 39:11Speaker 2: I got a mental fog. Oh, you're absolutely right. The
- 39:14Speaker 2: double whammy of daylight saving time and falling back and
- 39:17Speaker 2: not knowing your body clock is off by an hour,
- 39:20Speaker 2: but it's even getting dark early. That's always an adjustment anyway. Yeah,
- 39:25Speaker 2: and my schedule. And the Brewers.
- 39:27Speaker 4: My schedule always gets thrown off when the Packers don't
- 39:29Speaker 4: play Sunday. that too like in football season when there's
- 39:33Speaker 4: not football on saturday and sunday it throws my entire.
- 39:35Speaker 2: Week off no question no question so then now it's
- 39:39Speaker 2: microwaved it is uh It's.
- 39:42Speaker 4: A beautiful reason to as disheveled as, uh, and, and
- 39:45Speaker 4: it's still a little hung over as the city is
- 39:47Speaker 4: from the, uh, from the parade and the last month
- 39:50Speaker 4: of excitement, uh, baseball wise, it is cool. And I
- 39:53Speaker 4: think the, uh, the neck, the best where's Waldo is
- 39:55Speaker 4: going to be, where does the next brewer pop.
- 39:57Speaker 2: Up in the wild?
- 39:59Speaker 3: Totally.
- 39:59Speaker 2: Or like, where is the net?
- 40:00Speaker 4: Where's the next waiting for since 4.00 AM to see
- 40:04Speaker 4: wild bill at Dick's sporting goods. Or at Raising Cane's.
- 40:07Speaker 4: Who's going to be in next year? There were 500
- 40:09Speaker 4: people at Raising Cane's, apparently.
- 40:11Speaker 2: Armin, you can attest. I'm surprised there weren't more, to
- 40:13Speaker 2: be honest with you. You said it was nuts. Some folks,
- 40:15Speaker 2: and only like five people got to interact with him
- 40:18Speaker 2: because he was doing commercials and stuff. And he popped
- 40:21Speaker 2: out and said hello to everybody.
- 40:22Speaker 3: He did that.
- 40:22Speaker 2: He spoke.
- 40:23Speaker 5: It was really nice that he did that. And I
- 40:25Speaker 5: think Raising Cane's kind of sold it to be more
- 40:27Speaker 5: to the fans than it was. Sure.
- 40:29Speaker 2: They did put on very fine print, not an autograph appearance.
- 40:32Speaker 5: Well, that's true, but they implied that you'd be able
- 40:34Speaker 5: to have a few seconds with them.
- 40:36Speaker 2: You know what you can get? A Kaniak box. Kaniak box.
- 40:39Speaker 2: That thing is going to smack. Get an extra thing
- 40:42Speaker 2: of sauce because you're going to want one. So good.
- 40:43Speaker 2: Because you're going to dip the bread in. You're going
- 40:46Speaker 2: to sleep on that. Yes, yes. You're dipping the bread
- 40:48Speaker 2: in the sauce. It is phenomenal. Incredible. Thank us later. Incredible.
- 40:52Speaker 2: All right, tomorrow, a lot of college hoops cover. Bucs
- 40:54Speaker 2: play again.
- 40:55Speaker 1: Yes.
- 40:55Speaker 2: And we can hate watch the Seahawks and the Bears.
- 40:58Speaker 2: I will find myself rooting for the Seahawks. Not my
- 40:59Speaker 2: favorite franchise. I like John Schneider, okay? Mm-hmm. Their uniforms, fans,
- 41:04Speaker 2: the stadium. Not a fan. Not a fan at all.
- 41:06Speaker 2: I'll suffer through it tonight if they can beat the Bears.
- 41:09Speaker 4: I really am going to be watching, though, hoping for
- 41:11Speaker 4: one awkward Joe Buck-Troy Aikman moment.
- 41:13Speaker 2: Ooh. Let's do it. We'll see you tomorrow, too.
- 41:15Speaker 3: Peace!