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CA Prop 50 Passes | Old Democrats · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 2: Wild Fork Restaurant. And we're going to talk about Prop
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  Speaker 2: fifty right now. But before I do, and this somehow
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  Speaker 2: has been lost a little bit in the shuffle, and
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  Speaker 2: that is the Supreme Court is hearing a case as
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  Speaker 2: And he's done this under the National Emergency Powers Act.
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  Speaker 2: And effectively, what the Court is going to decide is
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  Speaker 2: the president's declaration of a national economic emergency?
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  Speaker 1: Is that legitimate? If he says it is that true.
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  Speaker 2: Same thing with the war powers act, with the cartels,
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  Speaker 2: with the immigration. If there is an invasion, it is true.
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  Speaker 2: There is an invasion, notwithstanding anything else. Okay, that's a big,
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  Speaker 2: big deal, which we'll be talking about now. Prop fifty
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  Speaker 2: passed yesterday overwhelmingly. It passed basically two to one, and
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  Speaker 2: we sort of knew that was going to happen. And
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  Speaker 2: this has to do with redistricting. Now, there are two
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  Speaker 2: kinds of redistricting, and that's drawing a district map and jerrymandering,
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  Speaker 2: which should draws these ridiculous maps that enclose some neighborhoods
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  Speaker 2: and not others. And there are two kinds of the redistricting.
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  Speaker 2: Who does it one independent commissions. California decided back during
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  Speaker 2: the Schwarzenegger years that we didn't want to politicize this.
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  Speaker 2: We wanted an independent commission to redistrict so politics did
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  Speaker 2: not have anything to do with it, and that was
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  Speaker 2: happening every ten years based on the census. The other
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  Speaker 2: side of it is the legislatures still have the power
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  Speaker 2: and this is mainly in the South, still have the
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  Speaker 2: power to redistrict themselves where they look at politics and
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  Speaker 2: it's pure politics. And what California is done this time
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  Speaker 2: is now pass a law that undos the Independent Commission
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  Speaker 2: temporarily until twenty thirty and it gives the legislature the
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  Speaker 2: power to redistrict. And what's going to happen. This is
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  Speaker 2: what redistricting is about. Is the legislature takes one district
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  Speaker 2: reforms it. So let's say all in this case, it
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  Speaker 2: is this way, all the Democrats in the South, all
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  Speaker 2: the Democrats are in one area. They sort of draw
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  Speaker 2: the line around a well with a Democrat with this
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  Speaker 2: legislature around a Republican area, leaving all the areas around
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  Speaker 2: it at least a good chance to be to vote
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  Speaker 2: on the other side.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, does that make sense? It can be a little.
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  Speaker 2: Complicated, so it basically almost guarantees that what was a
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  Speaker 2: swing district can now be much closer to your political position.
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  Speaker 2: And Prop fifty undid that. Now, some democratics states did this,
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  Speaker 2: but this one was in direct response to President Trump
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  Speaker 2: who told Texas, I I want you to readistrict. I
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  Speaker 2: want the legislature to draw those districts. So all the
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  Speaker 2: Democrats in that area are in one district, Okay, we'll
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  Speaker 2: give you that one, but the ones around it, we
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  Speaker 2: want the chance for them to be Republican. And it
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  Speaker 2: looks like five seats could go the other way and
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  Speaker 2: become Republican. So California did exactly the same thing. California said, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you do that, We're gonna do the same thing. Screw
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  Speaker 2: the independent commissions. We're gonna make sure that a Republican
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  Speaker 2: district stays Republican, but all the areas around it, we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna make absolutely sure that they're going to be democratic.
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  Speaker 2: That's jerry mandering, that's redistricting. And California went that way.
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  Speaker 2: So now the politics of this, I'm going to come
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  Speaker 2: back with deal with this one. The politics of this
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  Speaker 2: has to do with which way Democrats are deally within
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  Speaker 2: this state, Gavin Newsom and how powerful he has become,
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  Speaker 2: and the power of the president when he says this
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  Speaker 2: is what I want, and of course the Republican Party
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  Speaker 2: does exactly that is what happened in Texas. So there's
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  Speaker 2: a few moving pieces here that I want to share
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  Speaker 2: with you. And then the absolute fun one. This is
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  Speaker 2: a post by the President. And I'm not gonna say
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  Speaker 2: yout does himself because he outdes themselves every time he
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  Speaker 2: posts something, and then he out does himself. But it's
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  Speaker 2: one of the reasons, one of the reasons why there
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  Speaker 2: was a guarantee that Prop. Fifty was going to pass
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  Speaker 2: under any circumstances outside of the overwhelming number of Democrats
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  Speaker 2: in this state. As a matter of fact, we knew.
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  Speaker 2: I knew it was going to pass. Why I know
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  Speaker 2: it was going to pass because the President in social
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  Speaker 2: site on his called the vote a giant scam and
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  Speaker 2: it was rigged and under very serious legal and criminal review.
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  Speaker 1: Stay tuned.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, when that happens, it's a win on the other
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  Speaker 2: side usually.
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  Speaker 1: So, now, what does this mean.
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  Speaker 2: I told you in the previous segment the particulars, and
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  Speaker 2: that is it's redistricting. It's making if you're a Republican
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  Speaker 2: legislature you're going to get extra seats in the Republican Congress,
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  Speaker 2: and if you're a Democrat it goes the other way completely. Now,
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  Speaker 2: this has to do with a couple of things that
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  Speaker 2: are really important. One, it's fighting fire with fire. If
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  Speaker 2: Texas did this, pursue it to the request of the president,
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  Speaker 2: then we're going to do this. It's just that simple.
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  Speaker 2: It's fighting fire with fire, nothing more, nothing less. And
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  Speaker 2: now comes the politics of this. Gavin Newsom he bet
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  Speaker 2: effectively his political future on Prop fifty and it won
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  Speaker 2: two to one, immediately catapulting him into more of a
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  Speaker 2: national figure than he was before to the extent that
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  Speaker 2: he is going to be running for president. And also
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  Speaker 2: keep in mind Alex Padilla, US Senator just dropped out
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  Speaker 2: Kamala Harris. She says she's not running, So it's big
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  Speaker 2: news for Gavin Newsom. And the other one is a
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  Speaker 2: repudiation of the president. I was watching Fox News yesterday
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  Speaker 2: with their analysis, which I thought was damn good by
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  Speaker 2: the way, I thought that actually I thought it was
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  Speaker 2: better than CNN and better than MSNBC. And they pointed
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  Speaker 2: out that without Trump on the ticket, the chances of.
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  Speaker 1: Passage are far far less.
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  Speaker 2: In other words, carrying some carrying someone, or it's a
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  Speaker 2: down ticket that is going to win. That's how important
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump is to the Republican Party, to the MAGA supporters,
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  Speaker 2: to the election of any kind as far as the
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  Speaker 2: Republicans are concerned.
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  Speaker 1: And so if.
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  Speaker 2: Trump isn't there you know what, I don't think we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna vote that way. If it ain't Trump, it ain't good.
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  Speaker 2: Even when he endorses people, they look at the endorsement
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  Speaker 2: not nearly as powerfully as when he is on the ticket.
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  Speaker 2: And what does that translate to, Well, it wasn't just
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  Speaker 2: Prop fifty. It was on the East coast, the governor
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  Speaker 2: of New Jersey, the governor of Virginia, Mom Donnie On,
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  Speaker 2: the socialist mayor in New York. It was a across
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  Speaker 2: the country. It was a Democratic landslide. It was a wipeout.
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  Speaker 2: And so the now the Republicans are looking at do
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  Speaker 2: we really want Trump's endorsement, much like Joe Biden towards
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  Speaker 2: the end, Democrats didn't want to get anywhere near Biden's endorsement.
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  Speaker 2: Even when he offered it. The Democrats said, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want it. That's not gonna help me. He's
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  Speaker 2: probably gonna hurt me. And I think in the case
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  Speaker 2: of Trump, an endorsement is going to hurt a candidate
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  Speaker 2: more than not because what this was and described not
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  Speaker 2: only redistricting, not only either gaining seats or losing seats
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  Speaker 2: depending on which side of the coin you're on which
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  Speaker 2: side of the aisle, but it was defined as and
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  Speaker 2: I believe it's true. This vote was a direct repudiation
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  Speaker 2: of Donald Trump by a lot of America. And in
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  Speaker 2: Fox they did that. They did a diagram and doing
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  Speaker 2: the analysis, and the number of voters who voted across
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  Speaker 2: the country, not for the issue at hand, but for
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  Speaker 2: the repudiation of Donald Trump was an astronomical figure. Frankly,
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  Speaker 2: I was stunned. Republicans, I think were stunned. Not at
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  Speaker 2: the win, because everybody knew Prop fifty was going to
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  Speaker 2: win two to one.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And then when you look at the governor's race in Virginia,
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  Speaker 2: you look at the governor's race in New Jersey that
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  Speaker 2: was supposed to be Democrats still had.
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  Speaker 1: A lead, but very close.
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  Speaker 2: It was a wipeout, and Mam Donnie, well, we knew
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  Speaker 2: that was gonna win. The only place where Mamdani lost
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  Speaker 2: dramatically was in the Jewish parts of New York because
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  Speaker 2: he's a Muslim, and not so much he's a Muslim,
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  Speaker 2: is that in the past his political views were very
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  Speaker 2: anti Israel and very pro Palestinian and and he's walking
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  Speaker 2: that back.
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  Speaker 1: By the way. The same thing with defund the police.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of his politics and his positions are coming
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  Speaker 2: back and why well, he had to to win the election.
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  Speaker 2: And as Barack Obama said, it's when he was after
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  Speaker 2: he became president. It's real easy to campaign. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's a grind, but it's real easy to campaign and
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  Speaker 2: say what you're going to do and what you're not
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  Speaker 2: going to do. Get behind that desk. It is a
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  Speaker 2: whole different world, and I think that's what Momdani is
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  Speaker 2: going to have to deal with. Okay, Okay, I want
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  Speaker 2: to tell you a story. Okay, and let me start with.
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  Speaker 2: Federal judges are appointed for life, literally for life vacations.
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  Speaker 2: They take them whenever they want cases they can say
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  Speaker 2: no to. They can sit on a beach in Cancun.
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  Speaker 2: Now they don't even for the most part. They work very,
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  Speaker 2: very hard. So there is one federal judge and this
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  Speaker 2: has to do with people aging out, and that connects
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  Speaker 2: with Mom, Donnie and certainly Cuomo. There is a US well,
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  Speaker 2: there's a federal US Circuit Court judge by the name
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  Speaker 2: of Pauline Newman. Pauline Newman is ninety eight years old.
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  Speaker 2: Pauline Newman, Pauline Newman does not know what they have,
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  Speaker 2: where she is, and what she is. She knows she's
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  Speaker 2: a federal judge. She knows she can't be bounced. The
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  Speaker 2: only way a federal judge can be removed is by impeachment,
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  Speaker 2: so they are there for life. She's the oldest federal
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  Speaker 2: judge not to have taken the form of semi retirement
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  Speaker 2: known as senior status. Senior status means that they hear
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  Speaker 2: oceans and do calendar calls and don't get into the merits.
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  Speaker 2: They don't get into the weeds of a case. She says, nope,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to hear cases now. Is there anything that
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  Speaker 2: can be done?
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  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, The Chief Federal Circuit Judge, kimber Judge Kimberly Moore
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  Speaker 2: said that she has shown signs of serious cognitive and
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  Speaker 2: physical impairment, and then put her on this retirement if
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  Speaker 2: you will, but still on the men. She still makes
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  Speaker 2: her two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year, and
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  Speaker 2: she is suing. She says she is fit to serve
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  Speaker 2: and sued the council. This judicious council considered consisting of
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  Speaker 2: other judges who want to put her on senior status,
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  Speaker 2: which means she's not going to hear any cases.
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  Speaker 1: And the wow.
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  Speaker 2: Now, so far the appeals court has ruled against her,
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  Speaker 2: saying the courts themselves have consistently affirmed the judiciaryes authority
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  Speaker 2: to police itself, not remove her. That is not going
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  Speaker 2: to happen there. When I lived in Los Angeles on
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  Speaker 2: the West side, Hancock Park, adjacent my neighbor, his dad
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  Speaker 2: was the oldest sitting judge in the country. He was
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  Speaker 2: hearing cases at ninety three. But again he was only
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  Speaker 2: hearing motions, and he did calendar calls. Lawyers would go,
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  Speaker 2: your honor, I can't do trial at that time. I
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  Speaker 2: have to go ahead and ask for continuance. That's what
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  Speaker 2: he sort of did. Newman wants to hear cases. Is
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  Speaker 2: she going to She should sit in Cancun and by
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  Speaker 2: the way, she's going to die in office. There's one
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  Speaker 2: apocryphal case and it's I don't know if it's an
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  Speaker 2: urban leg or not, but there's one a profitable apocryphal
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  Speaker 2: case of one of the judges sitting in California that
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  Speaker 2: one of the senior judges that win the clerks applied
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  Speaker 2: to be applied to their office.
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  Speaker 1: That's how that's what happens after law school.
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  Speaker 2: If you really want to move up, you clerk for
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  Speaker 2: a judge, usually a federal judge or above. Part of
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  Speaker 2: the job is they had to change the judges diapers.
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  Speaker 2: That is a tough thing to do as a court clerk.
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  Speaker 2: Why because judges stay put for the rest of their lives.
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  Speaker 2: So now, yesterday I heard an interview with Nancy Pelosi.
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  Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi is eighty six years old. She gave up
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  Speaker 2: her leadership. She was speaker, and she voluntarily gave up
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  Speaker 2: her leadership to Hakim Jeffries, who I think is in
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  Speaker 2: his forties, to go to a younger generation. And she
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  Speaker 2: said something very interesting the reasons she gave it up,
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  Speaker 2: and talked about Trump, who she hates, and went on
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  Speaker 2: and and she said she's retiring at the end of
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  Speaker 2: this term. But she also said, if I decide to
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  Speaker 2: run again, I will win. That's a given. There is
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  Speaker 2: no argument against that. That is as real as gravity.
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  Speaker 2: There's no chance I would ever lose at eighty six.
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  Speaker 2: And therein lies the issue, and this is particularly among Democrats.
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  Speaker 2: Are Democrats a lot of them the leadership roles just
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  Speaker 2: too old, is it? The Joe Biden syndrome where you go.
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  Speaker 1: That's enough.
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  Speaker 2: This really took a turn when Biden ran for president
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  Speaker 2: the second time out. Why because I think he was
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  Speaker 2: eighty one at the time, and an old eighty one.
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  Speaker 2: He shuffled, he had a real problem with cognition. He
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  Speaker 2: would forget. I mean, he was a really old eighty one.
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  Speaker 2: Now Donald Trump was no youngster. But Donald Trump, I
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  Speaker 2: think is he eighty yet. I don't know if he's
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  Speaker 2: seventy nine or eighty, but he is one of the
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  Speaker 2: youngest seventy nine or eighties that exists. The guy has
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  Speaker 2: unbelievable amounts of energy. And if you're talking about old Biden,
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  Speaker 2: old Trump young for his age. And they're into the problem,
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  Speaker 2: particularly with the Democratic Party, because what you have, effectively
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  Speaker 2: are old people that should be termed out that are
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  Speaker 2: not termed out, because as long as they are keeping
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  Speaker 2: getting elected, you can have people being elected into their nineties.
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  Speaker 2: I think the oldest person whoever was re elected in
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  Speaker 2: the Senate was either strom Thurman or Robert Byrd. I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying to remember which one, but they were elected in
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  Speaker 2: their nineties. So there's no such thing as turning out
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  Speaker 2: when running for office. But here is A real problem
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  Speaker 2: is that look at where the demic party is moving.
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  Speaker 2: What did mom Dommy win? Was it just politics? No,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. A lot was made of the
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  Speaker 2: fact that he's thirty four years old, and Andrew Cuomo
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  Speaker 2: is sixty seven years old, and sixty seven years old
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  Speaker 2: is a youngster in the world of the Senate and Congress.
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  Speaker 2: Jerry Nadler, who is a congressman, and he announced he's
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  Speaker 2: not going to seek reelection. Why, well, he's seventy eight,
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  Speaker 2: and he said, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm done.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe younger people can do a better job. But why
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  Speaker 2: do few politicians in his age bracket feel the same way? Well,
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  Speaker 2: because it's a good job. I mean there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of work. If you do it right, you make a
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  Speaker 2: real impression. You really have a power where you can
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  Speaker 2: make change. And I think that is part and parcel
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  Speaker 2: of it. But people just don't require retire. Maxine Waters
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  Speaker 2: owns her district has for I don't know how many decades.
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  Speaker 1: She's eighty seven. Stenny Hoyer when.
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  Speaker 2: The leaders of the Republican or the Democratic Party, he's
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  Speaker 2: eighty six. Nancy Pelosi is eighty five, Bernie Sanders is eighty.
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  Speaker 1: Four, you know, at some point the.
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  Speaker 2: Electorate say, okay, it's time for a younger generation. And
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  Speaker 2: this is where a lot of people gave Nancy Pelosi,
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  Speaker 2: or give Nancy Pelosi a lot of credence and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of credit because she said, remember she's eighty six.
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  Speaker 1: She said at his time for a younger generation.
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  Speaker 2: We can't have people in their eighties and nineties still
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  Speaker 2: deciding which way the company the country goes.
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  Speaker 1: She's still in Congress. She just took a back seat.
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  Speaker 2: She gave up the most powerful position that she held
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  Speaker 2: for decades in the House of Representatives, and that's speaker.
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  Speaker 2: And if the Democrats take over the House, it'll be
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  Speaker 2: Hakim Jeffries. He is now the minority leader anyway, who
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  Speaker 2: has has trend's power as the leader of the party
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  Speaker 2: not in power, and he has power now the speaker.
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  Speaker 2: That is an astoundingly powerful position. The speaker can call
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  Speaker 2: a vote, can say we're not voting. The speaker can
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  Speaker 2: bring a bill on the floor the speaker. The speaker
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  Speaker 2: can say nope, we're not going to bring a vote
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  Speaker 2: on the floor. And what you're gonna have is a fight.
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  Speaker 2: What you do have is hockeying. Jeffries via Mike Mike Johnson,
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  Speaker 2: who is a speaker. Both young men and I think
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  Speaker 2: that they're going to stay in powerful positions. But these ulsters, man,
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  Speaker 2: it is it time just to move. At some point,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you have to give it up, and it's
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  Speaker 2: hard to give up. I mean a lot of kudos
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  Speaker 2: going on, You get a lot of free meals, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of yes sirs, Yes, ma'am. They have tremendous power.
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  Speaker 2: No one says no to a congress person in their
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  Speaker 2: own district, old people. That's why I'm going to be
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  Speaker 2: here for the rest of my life. Matter of fact,
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  Speaker 2: when I lose all cognition, which actually I have already,
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  Speaker 2: when I don't know where I am.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty much what's happening right.
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  Speaker 2: Now, when I grope for words and don't really understand
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  Speaker 2: what I'm speaking of. Yeah, pretty much, okay, KF I
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