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Jason Hewlett- Ignite Authenticity In Your Kids · Quarterback DadCast | Intentional Fatherhood & Leadership at Home

• 0:03
  Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Riley and I'm Ryder and this is my dad show.
• 0:06
  Speaker 2: Hey everybody, it's Casey Jaycox with the quarterback dad cast.
• 0:15
  Speaker 2: Welcome to season six, and I could not be more excited to have you join me for another year of fantastic episodes and conversations really unscripted and raw and authentic conversations with dads.
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: If you're new to this podcast, really it's simple.
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  Speaker 2: It's a podcast where we interview dads, we learn about how they were raised, we learn about the life lessons that were important to them, we learn about the values that are important to them and really we learn about how we can work hard to become a better quarterback or leader of our home.
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: So let's sit back, relax and listen to today's episode on the Quarterback Dadcast.
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: Well, hello everybody.
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  Speaker 2: It's Casey Jaycox with the Quarterback Dadcast.
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: We're in season six, as the season rolls along and we're in the summer and I'm grateful for our next guest, who came highly, highly recommended by the talented Greg Offner, who can definitely tickle the ivory, and I think our next guest can as well.
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: His name is Jason Hewlett.
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  Speaker 2: He's for the last 25 years he's been impacting organizations and companies and everywhere else he goes and speaks with his energy.
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: He's also a corporate executive coach, teaching performance.
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: But, with all that said.
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: That's not why we're having Jason on.
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  Speaker 2: We're having Jason on to talk about Jason the dad, and how he's working hard or continues to work hard to become that ultimate quarterback or leader of his household.
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  Speaker 2: So, without further ado, Mr Hewlett, welcome to the Quarterback Dadcast.
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: Casey, this is great to be with you.
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on.
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: I love that we have this shared connection to Greg and I admire the work you're doing.
• 1:40
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: You bet man Well, who can tickle the ivory better, you or him.
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, him by far.
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: Oh man, that's his shtick.
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: I started my career in Las Vegas as an impersonator, so he's a real musician.
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: I'm just kind of a pretend, but no, he's amazing at what he does.
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: I am so glad you told me that, and now I'm like this is going to derail me, because I wanted to like, hey, give what's your best impersonation oh really yeah so I started my career in Las Vegas in 20 in 2001 and I was a both a Elton John impersonator and Ricky Martin for the show Legends in Concert on the strip at the Imperial Palace you look like Ricky Martin.
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: I, I do have the Ricky Martin look, and what's interesting is now that I have a beard and glasses I don't pull it off as well.
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: But man back 20-plus years ago when he was the hottest thing going with the leather pants and the bonbon shake, and I was doing that around the world, and I didn't just perform in Vegas, I performed all over the different spots that they had for Legends in Concert shows around the country, which would be places like Myrtle Beach, valley, forge, pennsylvania, other places that were fun, and they would have us for private events, big Las Vegas show type events, and then Elton John as well.
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: So I would actually open the show as Elton come back later in the show after a few other characters as Ricky Martin, nobody knows the same guy.
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: It was a fun gig for a while.
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  Speaker 1: This was before we had kids, so just my wife and I traveling around and kind of a wild way to start a career, right.
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: So I am a closet singer.
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: Give me a few soda pop, dad soda pops.
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: The vocal is really good going.
• 3:17
  Speaker 2: I can play about five or six chords on the guitar, self-taught.
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: Just enough to know if you don't play guitar you like, oh, that guy's pretty good.
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: And then a real guitar player was like that guy sucks.
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: I'm with you.
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: That's how I am on the piano.
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: I can just play enough stuff on the piano for people to go wow, he's great, but the musicians go.
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: Hmm, how did he figure that out?
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: Can you do walking to Memphis?
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: No, I can't.
• 3:44
  Speaker 1: What do you?
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  Speaker 2: got, I can do Jaws on the piano and Chopsticks.
• 3:50
  Speaker 2: And what's that, fair Elise, that duet thing you do?
• 3:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, the Heart and Soul.
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: Heart and Soul, that's it.
• 3:59
  Speaker 2: There we go.
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: I can do that, but I literally.
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: The other day I looked up how to learn how to play walking to Memphis on YouTube.
• 4:07
  Speaker 2: I'm like this is so outside my pay grade, but I might try to like see if I can teach myself.
• 4:12
  Speaker 1: Walking to Memphis.
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: That's a tough one, man.
• 4:14
  Speaker 1: I'd say that's high, high level stuff.
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: For me it's I, in fact I just did a wrapped up a show where I was doing Elton John and Billy Joel in the same show.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't necessarily impersonation, but rather just enjoying the music of them.
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  Speaker 1: We had a five-man band with me, including a saxophone, which made it extra special, and we sold out all these shows.
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: It was a really neat thing.
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  Speaker 1: So did that, learned all the Billy Joel, uptown Girl and Piano man.
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  Speaker 3: Uptown Girl.
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: And then, yeah, did stuff like my Life.
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: And then, of course, Elton John did Rocket man Goodbye, Olympic Road, Candle in the Wind, Crocodile Rock, those fun ones.
• 4:55
  Speaker 1: So it's cool.
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  Speaker 2: So you got some range, brother.
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: Well, I've done enough to make some waves and make a career out of it.
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: It's been a fun thing, and then I also mixed that into being a keynote speaker, so that's kind of been the life that we've created for our little family.
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: And I've been very fortunate to have enough gigs to make it work.
• 5:16
  Speaker 2: Wow, all right, I've already derailed us.
• 5:16
  Speaker 2: We're going to get back on track.
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: We always start out each episode with gratitude, so tell me, what are you most grateful for as a dad today?
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, today actually, my sons just came home from essentially their scout camp for the week, which was a young men's camp that our church puts on once a year and unfortunately, due to the alignment of things with my schedule this last couple of months my son graduated from high school and some other things I had to take time off the other weeks in order to not make it to this camp with them.
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: But they just came home, I just hugged them.
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: They smelled like campfire and five days without showers and I was just so excited that they're back.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, they just walked in the door about an hour ago and so it's been.
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  Speaker 1: That is my full gratitude today, just so happy to have them home.
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  Speaker 2: Love.
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  Speaker 2: That.
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  Speaker 2: That's so cool.
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: You did a good job.
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: I can really describe you, and I could almost feel like I was smelling campfire when you, when you said that, um, what I'm most grateful for today is a time here in Eastern Washington.
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: Um, we are lucky, very, very blessed and lucky to.
• 6:17
  Speaker 2: We built a little place here 20 years ago.
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: And, um, I'm working this morning and then this afternoon my actually my son, one of his best friends and my buddy.
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: They're playing golf right now.
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: They're going to come back for lunch and then this afternoon they're going to play 36 holes.
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: I'll play 18 with them.
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: They're going to play another 18.
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: And then we'll just hang out.
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: And last night we watched Caddyshack and they were surprised that Dad knew all the lines.
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like welcome to the big leagues.
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: Boys and girls, it's all right, don't nobody worry about me.
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, buddy, yeah, I could do so many lines from that and my wife was getting mad.
• 6:55
  Speaker 2: I'm like, honey, this is what you do when you watch Caddyshack.
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: You just keep quoting, you try to get ahead of it and see who knows it the best.
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: That's what we do and see who knows it the best.
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: That's what we do.
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: That's what a dad does.
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: Man Watch a movie with dad.
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we laughed so hard.
• 7:07
  Speaker 2: And even this morning my buddy's son was up before my son.
• 7:10
  Speaker 2: He's like Casey.
• 7:11
  Speaker 2: That was so funny.
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: I can't believe how much he knows Caddyshack.
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: I'm like I couldn't tell you when the War of 1812 was but I can tell you a lot about Caddyshack.
• 7:20
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 7:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, bring me inside the Hewlett huddle, tell me about how you and your wife met, and then about the each member of the squad.
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my wife and I met at church actually it's called a singles ward and so it was a bunch of single adults, if you will, that were just looking for somebody to date.
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: And I saw her at the drinking fountain or blonde hair.
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: The way the water fell off her lips I thought, okay, that's the one right there.
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: I knew it immediately and I actually did not ask her out for nine months because I knew that everyone else in that whole community was trying to ask her out too.
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: So she would give every guy one date and one chance to wow her.
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: And that was for me.
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I have to put together a plan.
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: So I went out with every girl other than her and made her, made sure she knew that, and that was my trick.
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: And yeah, so finally we became friends and we were on this activities committee, together planned activities like volleyball, and activities committee together planned activities like volleyball and and other fun parties for the church.
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: And then, gosh, I remember I finally got the guts to ask her out.
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: I had already schemed and figured out what she liked, what things that guys hadn't taken her to do, and I just, I just knew the second that I asked her out.
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: I was never going to let that go, and so yeah worked out.
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: Six months later, we're married.
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah it was a good, good thing for us, and so we we got married in 2001, right before 9-11 happened, and it was a wonderful time.
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: As you know, that was a different time of life, and then, within five years, we started having some kids.
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: So we now have four children, and we actually had three in 26 months.
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: For the dads that can do math, there were no twin twins or triplets in there, so we had.
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: We have two Irish twins, however.
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  Speaker 1: So our daughter she's now 19.
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: Our sons are 18 and 17.
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: And then we have a 13 year old.
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  Speaker 1: So we had four and five years, and life is incredible with these kids, as you know.
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: Wow, your wife's a trooper.
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: I'll say Wow, and what keeps each child busy?
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: What lights their fire?
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: Well, ella, she's the eldest, she just graduated from high school a year ago and in the last year she has become an au pair and an au pair is like a savvy word for nanny and she got to go across the pond and she did that for a couple of months in Italy and she was in Verona where Romeo and Juliet was based.
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: So then she, without speaking any Italian, she lived with a family that barely spoke any English and she just kind of braved the wilderness of being an amazing person and going and trying something incredibly cool, and had a little five-year-old boy that was very challenging for her to communicate with as well, because he was just learning English from school and his dad spoke a little, his mom spoke a little of English, but, man, it was a tricky situation for her.
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: And yet she navigated all around Italy, she figured out the metro system, she essentially spent every cent she earned in order to go visit Venice and Milan and go do some incredibly cool things for herself, and her favorite was Florence or Firenze, where you know Da Vinci and Michelangelo and David, and she had a great, great time.
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: So she did that for a few months.
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: We went and got her and picked her up a couple of months back and that was one of the greatest experience of our life to see our daughter having gone from kind of not doing the best in high school, kind of floundering a little bit, and then turning into this amazing adult as she went and explored the world and realized how awesome her life already was back at home and that she had the tools to be able to navigate, travel and communicate with people in a different language, just through her personality of fun and enjoyment.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: And then she went to New Zealand and she was a nanny there for two little kids and they they all lived essentially in the same house, which is really tricky.
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: They shared a one bathroom in this whole house, stuff like that that she just you know she wasn't used to in our home.
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: She has her own floor, essentially in the basement, and so so to have her own uh space with this family was really an interesting experience.
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: We didn't pick her up from New Zealand, but she did travel all around New Zealand in a little minivan that she rented.
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: She did that for 10 days on her own.
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's just a brave girl and it's been awesome to watch her spread her wings and fly.
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: In that sense, she even hopped over to Australia, hung out there for a week, and I'm really proud of her for making that thing happen in her life.
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: Because now people are asking her how did you do it?
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: How did you have so much guts to make that happen?
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: And you know she's already lived like a full life and she's not even 20.
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: And so that's just.
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: That's just her man.
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: I'm just so excited for what she's going to do next.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: She's finally just got home a few weeks ago for our son's graduation from high school, and so that's my daughter.
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: Was that too long?
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: to tell you about.
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: That was fantastic man.
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: I'm envious of her resiliency, her curiosity, no fear.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: I mean those would be great life skills she's going to use somewhere down the road.
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: No fear is what it was about, for sure.
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: And to get the phone calls we got or the FaceTimes, and she's ready to jump off of a tower where it was the biggest bungee jump in the world, or you know.
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: I mean she was just doing stuff that we were like we can't stop you, so we love you, good luck, you know.
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: I mean it was really inspiring to see her go for something that she knew that we would be nervous about, and yet we had raised our children in a, in a motorhome environment.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: Anyway, we visited all 50 states as a family, and so we've we've done a lot of travel anyway, we've taken them overseas in the first place, and so I do feel she was somewhat prepared, but we did not know that she would take it and run with it like she has.
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: She's like the next Evel Knievel, I mean that's absolutely going out of a cannon here pretty soon.
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: Well, especially living out of a little minivan.
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: It was essentially a Toyota Sienna.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: It was like the same minivan we have at home, but it was outfitted for a one person traveler and she just went on her own all around New Zealand and apparently other girls do this and you would think that that's dangerous.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: You know, thankfully she was safe and had the greatest time.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: She climbed mountains and she swam on beaches and, you know, and beautiful ocean and she just had the greatest time of life.
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: And I said to her you know, you just accomplished something that you'll be able to look back on forever and talk about as the great adventure and you can build on that adventure forever.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: So it's been fun to watch.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: Wow, and tell me about the other three.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: What are they up to?
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: So Redford, so that Ella's the eldest, she's 19.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: Redford's 18.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: He just graduated from the largest high school in Utah where we live and it's called Harriman High.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: He was the student body president for the last year of that school and it's been interesting to watch him develop into this incredible leader.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: In fact, the principal retired along with this class after 25 plus years and said this is the best student body president I've ever seen in my history of my career.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: And he said I watch Redford build community through including everybody attending every single event, making being a student body leader cool again, and that was something of great pride for us as a family.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: So he just graduated with honors.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: He was in the National Honor Society.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Things I never accomplished, casey, I mean stuff that my wife and I were like where did this kid come from?
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's just an amazing boy.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: And he didn't really hit into the athletic side of things he tried out for.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Some teams like golf and basketball didn't make it.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: What's interesting is he didn't let that keep him down.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: He just attended all the events and cheered everyone on.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: His younger brother made the team and so Redford would cheer his brother on and do all he could to help him in the tryouts, even though Redford knew he wasn't going to make it Stuff like that.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: That's really special.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: And then he eventually realized leadership was the spot and being the attendee of all the events and the best cheerleader for everybody and high-fiving everyone from the nerdiest nerd to the coolest of the cool and being friends with everyone in between, we're just really proud of that that.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: That was what he chose and he actually entered a thing called DECA, which is like a youth activity where you build up a business and some ideas, and he actually took state in that with his partners and then they took seventh in the world for their idea and we're funded with $6,000 by an investor.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: They have other investors looking to maybe buy the product and, what's interesting, he got a full ride scholarship to Southern Utah University as a presidential ambassador.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, my wife and I we didn't even make it to college.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: I mean we tried for a few weeks at the local community college.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: So to see our kids essentially stand on shoulders and make life better has really just been so inspiring for us.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: And he leaves in six weeks on a mission for our church.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: He's going to Argentina for two years.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: He'll be learning Spanish and he's been working his whole life to save up and make it so that he can do this wonderful charity.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Service for our church and for helping people to come to Christ is what we say, and so we're excited for him.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: And then our next son is Romney.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: He's 17.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: He was a basketball player for a few years one of the best shooters I've ever seen, and worked so hard at it.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Some school stuff happened where we did so well in the state that other kids started moving in.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I'm sure everybody kind of knows that story.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: And so now he's kind of put basketball to the side and gone to bodybuilding.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: So he's more of a bodybuilder, sculptor of his body.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: He's a hiker, he's a workout machine, gets great grades, just a good young man.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: He's now going to be the student body spirit leader of the school, which is essentially like the vice president for next year when he's a senior and following the footsteps of his older brother, and he's doing a great job.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: We're very proud of him, gets great grades and so forth.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: And then, last but not least, is Royal.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: He is 13 and going on, you know, 35.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is like the grownup kid that grew up in the watching the older three do all their things.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: And now he's this.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: He's really the daredevil.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: He's the one on the motorbike, he's the one that if he picks up a basketball, he's the star of the team.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: If he tries to play golf, he's hitting hole in ones.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's like just kind of that kid that's good at kind of anything he tries.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: And so we're interested to see where this goes as he goes into his high school years.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: But giving them tools and opportunities, and whether it's camps that they can attend or, you know, giving them the tools to say, hey, I want to become better at dirt biking and riding on my Suron and stuff like that, that's what we're about as parents to give them adventure and create opportunity.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Love it, man.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Well, you sounds like you got a fantastic family of, uh, overachievers that are definitely making mom and dad proud and, uh, great kids, and I'm actually just cool, cool hearing about them.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Uh, each one, um, I want to turn it towards you now.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: My man and I want to learn about what was life like growing up for you and talk about the impact your parents had on you and maybe some lessons and stories that have helped you become the dad you are today.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Well, that's very kind.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I grew up in a wonderful home.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I think a silver spoon would probably be appropriate.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: My dad was a very successful financial planner, insurance agent.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: He was, in fact, the top salesman in the world and the company he was at was Sun Life of Canada.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: And so I had a very nice growing up in terms of affluence and seeing the possibilities of the world.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: And so seeing a dad that said, hey, anything's possible, working for the man might not be in your best interest.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: So what can you create?
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: He really instilled that in me right from the beginning, and my mom encouraged all of this as well.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: And so I went to a private school.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Growing up I was held back in ninth grade.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: After doing my best through school, all through the years, finally, ninth grade it caught up to me.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I had to be held back.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you, held back was nice, cause now I was go, went from the youngest to the oldest in the class.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, I was the only one that was shaving and driving in ninth grade.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: And then, uh, I I became a good basketball player, worked really hard at that, became all state.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Uh, after working through the summer, 50,000 baskets, that kind of.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: You know those kind of legendary stories that make you realize that goal setting really matters.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: And I eventually got a full ride scholarship for basketball, and I didn't take it because I realized I wanted to be in the entertainment space.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: And so, instead of doing that, I went to the Las Vegas career, and so that was an interesting shift for me.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: But growing up, yeah, I remember to the Las Vegas career, and so that was an interesting shift for me.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: But growing up, yeah, I remember one of my favorite stories about my parents, my dad, when I was little and things were not going well with school, he sat me down one day and I think I was 11 or 12 and he handed me.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: He said, hey, look, obviously, math, english, science, these things are not working out.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: So let me just tell you, if you read these books, even though you're having a hard time reading, just get through them.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: And he sat me down and gave me the book by Ogmandino called the Greatest Salesman in the World, and then the book by James Allen, as a man Thinketh, and the book by Stephen Covey, seven Habits of Highly Effective People, and the book by Dale Carnegie, how to Win Friends and Influence People.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: And he just gave me all of these books and said look, if you'll figure out how to read these books and do what's in them, you will be successful, regardless of what's going on right now with your inability at school, and he really coached me through that.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I'm so thankful for that.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: My mom equally helped me in so many ways by seeing that I was a unique child and saying well, you have much to offer and so you have a light to shine.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: And I always say that.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: She said that the light you shine is the light you receive.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: So I went everywhere smiling, making people laugh, and she encouraged that.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: She got me the costumes to dress up as these characters that now I have utilized in a show and as presentations for my whole life.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: And so I grew up in a really special home.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I had two brothers, two sisters, and I was the oldest, and these guys are my best friends still to this day.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: It's a wonderful thing that we have that kind of relationship.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: And I went on a mission to Brazil.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I eventually came home, met my wife.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: She went on a mission to Honduras, so we had that in common, and then we have done our best to raise our family in the same values and we're just thankful for the opportunity that we have to raise a family that we believe is an eternal one, and so that's what we're going for.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Love it.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Tell me the I'd say top one or two values that mom and dad said hey, part of the Hewlett crowd, this is who we are and this is the most, no matter what happens.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: These are the two things that really define us that maybe, as I asked that question, maybe it takes you back again to a story that maybe you've either learned through hardship or through good times, bad times, but also you maybe even share with your kids.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Tell me what comes to mind.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, first and foremost stands out would be just honoring the Hewlett name.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I mean that was a major thing for my family to say hey, if you're going to do that, if you're going to my my, my hero growing up as a basketball player was Dennis Rodman and, being a kid from Utah, we had John Stockton, carl Malone, these legends of basketball that were obviously having Michael Jordan in their way of winning a championship.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: But Dennis Rodman was my favorite player because he got all the rebounds, he never stopped running and working and he really out hustled everybody.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: So I would actually dress up as Dennis Rodman and I would paint my fingernails and I'd draw tattoos on my arms and I'd color my hair.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: And my dad was like what is happening?
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: And I remember because he was one of the people that helped save the Utah jazz from being sold to Minnesota back in the early eighties.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: So he helped found what was called the jazz 100 club, so he had front row seats my entire youth.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: So from the early, eighties until 1998, when Jordan hit the shot over us and beat us.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Finally, uh, finally, for the second time we had front row seats and I got to be there for all those events that were amazing for Utah but were also tragic, and I was sitting there as Dennis Rodman and you could imagine my dad just like suffering because we were diehard Utah jazz fans.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: But I loved Rodman so much Rodman would actually give me his towel and high five me, and it was a wacky time.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: But I only share that because my dad still, despite the fact that I look like a lunatic, he still honored me and allowed me to come to the game and didn't like put that out, if you will.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he still was like okay.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he just was like I accept the weirdness that you are and that has driven the way that we've lived as parents ourselves.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: And so I'd say, honoring the Hewlett name and honoring our own faith and we are members of the Church of Jesus Christ Latter-day Saints and for us that's a big deal and we share it, we talk about it.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I never hide from that.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: I've written in my books about it.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Speak about it on stage.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: We're not looking to make everybody join us, but the point is we're proud of it and we're grateful for it, and so we want to share that faith wherever we go, and that's about doing good in the world.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: And so those are two major things in our life that we've now passed on to our children.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: We say, hey, are you going to be honoring the Hewlett name wherever you go?
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: That's what people know is that you're a Hewlett.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: And I grew up in the shadow of a dad who was really well known.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Everybody knew I was John Hewlett's son.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: And now my kids are known as Jason Hewlett's kids, right, because I kind of get around and people have gotten to know me.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: But what's fun to now be known as is I'm Ella's dad, or I'm Redford or Romney or Royal's dad.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: That's a great honor to me.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, love it.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: How, if someone's listening to us saying, well, how can, and they want to like, take that same advice and let's honor our name, honor our family name, what are?
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Tell me some ways that you have taught your kids to honor the Hewlett name?
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Oh man, I love that question.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I would just say, by standing for what's right, doing your best, showing up fully, fully present, sharing your signature moves, keeping your promises with people.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: There are so many different ways that we can do it that are not big.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: It's, I believe, more in the consistency.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Consistency, and there was a.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: There was a thing that happened this year that was kind of interesting.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: My son's got their high school pictures taken and they didn't like them.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: They were like we want to redo it.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: And so the night before they were like mom, where's dad's scout uniforms from the attic?
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Do you have those still?
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: So she went and found the scout uniforms.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: They we had no idea what they were going to do, but they were like we're gonna, we're gonna do like this scout thing.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: So so they bowl cutted their hair with a bowl and with their friends and made a whole video about their haircuts being like napoleon dynamite style, dumb and dumber, almost-esque look.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: And they put on these scout uniforms and did this whole thing as their yearbook photos.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: They made a video snippet of it.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: It was like 20, 30 seconds long and it started to go viral on TikTok and then Barstool Sports picked it up and it went crazy and it's now been seen like a hundred million views around the world.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: It's crazy, like celebrities were sharing it and now it has their names on it Redford, hewlett, romney, hewlett has their IDs, their high school cards and everything.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: And now there were so many people that were like there is no way in the comments, there is no way that parents approved this or there's no way the parents would be proud of this.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: And I was the first one to share it on my social media because when I saw it I laughed so hard.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I was like this is absolutely something I would do.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: There's no harm in it.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: But it was just to me like kind of almost like a microcosm of what my parents encouraged me.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: They were like it's okay to do what you're going to do.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Dress up as Dennis Rodman on the front row of the jazz game Show, up as Michael Jackson dancing at the talent show of our church.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Stuff that doesn't make sense, but people enjoyed it.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: It didn't hurt anybody.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, I was running around as a Pee Wee Herman impersonator when I was in third grade because he was the most popular guy.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Things didn't turn out so hot for him in some senses.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: But now here's my children dressing up, doing funny things and I'm like, if I squash this, this potentially could put out the flame and fire of fun.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: That is innocent and harmless and is something that I encourage their creativity, the joy and the happiness that it actually brought lots of people.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: People are like this is the best thing I've ever seen on the internet.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: That's how much people loved it, and I was like I'm glad that we continue to encourage the creation and the fostering of goodness rather than you know, they weren't out there like exploding things and hurting people and making that viral.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: They're just doing something fun and silly, and so that's what I would encourage to parents and say if you see that your kids have some creative idea, how can you encourage it rather than put it out?
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: If you can support them in any way, whether it's sharing their post online or saying do you need a better camera so you can make a better video production?
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: That's what it's about, in my opinion.
• 30:05
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• 30:12
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• 30:27
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• 30:31
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• 30:53
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• 32:01
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• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Now let's get back to casey's podcast, the quarterback dad cast I love that, I think it's.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I think what's really kind of hitting home that I hope that there's a parent listening is, um, you know many of the episodes I've done and, jason, I've interviewed over 300 dads, which is crazy to think.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: But and I'm nowhere near done I'm hoping that we'll get to a thousand eventually.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: But I think too often society now, with the pressures of club sports, travel sports, dance teams, whatever it is, it's like they get your, you get so wrapped up in your kids Sport or activity and it becomes your ego and um, I've always I mean, I don't know if it's maybe because I played football in college, so I don't have, I'm not living vicariously through them, but I just I've always told my kids, like this is your journey, not mine.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: I don't have any eligibility left and I'm grateful that, like my kids, both pick sports that I wasn't super good at in high school, like my, my son plays golf in college, my daughter's a Hooper, way better basketball player than I ever was.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Um, but I just, I'm a big believer into, like you know, attitude, effort, mindset, being a teammate, doing the little things that maybe no one wants to do, like the extra pass or um, and uh, I love that what you talked about is kind of like I think it kind of embodies that same theme, but it also it's.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: It's so easy to say, oh, like dude, really you're gonna cut your hair and look like a, you're gonna look like a tool, like what are you doing, bro?
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: But you just said no, do it.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: And I love that.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Your parents said, yeah, dress up like Robin, we don't care which.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I think the if I'm judging Utah like like that doesn't happen.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: No.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: And I think that was so uncommon what your parents did.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: And that's exactly right.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up in a place called Park City, utah, which is essentially not your typical Utah city.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: It's very affluent, it's where the celebrities live, it's every religion is there, and so what you think of of Utah, park city, is a little bit different.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: And that's where I grew up and I was very blessed to have that opportunity to live there and to have parents that were like hey, yeah, you should go to the Catholic mass, you should go to the Jewish synagogue, you should go hang out with your friends in their different capacities.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: They taught me that that was okay and we've fostered the same with our children.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: In fact, when we've traveled the country in our motorhome, we go to every religion we can pop into, because I'm like guys, you need to see how cool this is, the way these people worship and how different it is from us.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: And in my opinion, that just gives you more of an appreciation of who people are and you know whether it's going and eating dinner with the Amish or hanging out with the.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: You know the Baptists in New Orleans while they're playing the trumpet and dancing at the church.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've done a lot of really neat things with the kids in order to help them understand that everybody's beautiful.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: The world is a wonderful place.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Everyone has their place in it.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: How can we make a difference with how we stand out in a sit down world?
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Because each of us have our signature moves and each of our children has theirs.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I hope they'll shine that light.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I've never heard of that in my entire life.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I'm almost 50 years old and I think that's fricking fantastic and I think it attacks in a positive way all the negative stereotypes of organized religion.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: But, being really honest, like I don't, jason, I don't, I don't, I don't go to church, not because I just I just don't choose, not, I just just just doesn't happen.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: But I'm very spiritual, I do a gratitude practice every morning, I pray, I talk to I mean I, I have a relationship with God, but I just don't go to church for whatever reason.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: But but the fact that you, your parents, how they raised you, I've never heard of that in my entire life.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Like that's so cool.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Right on, because I think it's so easy to get.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: You get wrapped up in like no, we're Catholic and this is right, or we're more Mormon, this is everyone else's idiots, and nor jewish and everyone else.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: It's like I think that's what's like causes so much uncertainty and and like how that's what I think maybe it's pushed me away not to take us down to different, but I think that's maybe it's pushed me away from some organized religion.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, how do you know, yeah, how do you know you're right did?
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Were you there when god was here?
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Did you?
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Were you part of that Zoom meeting that I didn't get invited to?
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: How do you know?
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: You don't know.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: No one knows.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, our faith is our faith.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: We can't see it, but you believe it, but no one I don't think anybody knows the truth.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: So if I'm kind of reading the room and hearing your church and your faith is just freaking, be a good human being, be nice, love people, go out of your way and do good Like I can get down that religion all day long.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: No, I appreciate that that's cool, and I don't know if everybody that's in my faith believes the same as me in that sense.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you, there's really no more great memories for us than to see what other people believe and to learn about it, and to go and visit their place of worship and to also visit their homes and to see what their lives are like.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: You know people that have marriages that are different than what ours looks like.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: That's a beautiful thing for us to be able to be like.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: We celebrate you, we honor you, we love you.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: And how can we I mean, I believe that's what Jesus was, that's just what he did love you.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: And how can we I mean, I believe that's what Jesus was, that's just what he did.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: He went to the far reaches of the places where the real righteous, in their quote, unquote way, would say you can't go there, you shouldn't be playing with those people.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: In reality, that's our responsibility is to reach out to the one who is really struggling or the one who has a different belief and faith.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: And so to us it's been important and in reality I don't know why, casey, but it seems to drive firmer our own faith into our own foundation, for us to believe more of what we have and are and know and do.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: And you know, whether we know things definitively or we just have a strong faith, the fact is, can we go out and spread joy and light to anyone that we interact with, and how can we do that?
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Through not only our own signature moves, but also, you know, we shine light, but we mostly reflect the light.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: That is the God that we believe in.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: And so I think that once we share that which we truly are and that we believe, then it'll come through in our actions, not just our words 100%.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's easy to say those things, but you never want to be that person.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: That's like oh, I go to church every Sunday, but I also beat my wife and I get parking tickets every other day and I speed through child kid zones, but I go to church and I'm good.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: It's like I don't want to be that.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Don't be that dude, just be the consistent person that shows up, that believes in fundamentals of life.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: And I love it.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, church, in my opinion, in a lot of ways that that's too much of an excuse to lack of spirituality and and so if there's a and I don't want to be judgmental of anybody either Like if they do their church thing and beat their wife, you know, obviously that's, that's really sad.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Please stop.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: It's time to be done.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: But like, if you don't go to church but you've got your spiritual, you know practices in alignment with what you know for yourself, whether that's out on the golf course or in nature or with your family heavens, then then that is your church, right, so that's the place where you worship and that's a good thing.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's an interesting way to go on the conversation.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you didn't know that's where we're headed, but yeah, that's been a big thing for us in our family is to honor the name and honor the faith.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Love it, man.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: That's so cool.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: That's what the power of curiosity so it's kind of like in my work world I'm obsessed with.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: I think these three, these three skills I think, create the best cultures in business and families and life.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: And and it's the power of humility, vulnerability and curiosity, I think, when those three skills are present, look out.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: And one of the skills I use in my this podcast is curiosity.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: I don't come in with, I come in with a high level view of what I'm going to do, but then I practice my active listening.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: I practice my follow-up questions.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: My goal is to help people make people think.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: My goal is to always have my guests say, ah, great question.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: That that's how we make people, that's how you are.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Stay on people's mind If you, if you, but if you show up common, we make people.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: That's how you are.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Stay on people's mind If you, if you, but if you show up common, just do what everybody else does, um and so, uh, I love that you said that, what you said, but I think it's.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I think, when we, as humans and dads, if you're listening, if you're not curious, maybe that's one thing you take from today.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: And you, you, you maybe ask one more question, or two more questions at your kids to truly understand what's driving them Like.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: What are they?
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: What, what, what's going on in their world?
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: And well, tell me, why?
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Tell me more about that, buddy.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Versus how's your day Good?
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, go play video games, we'll see you in six hours.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it's hard to have sometimes the those questions, those conversations, but it's also the blessing that are right in front of you if you go just a little bit more curious and see what you can uncover.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I love that, casey.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: That's very cool, and I agree I found that as a dad, when we have that curiosity, it makes all the difference for the child, because then they realize that it's okay to play in the space rather than thinking I'm guiding the direction only.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: And so, as a motorhome driver which is an interesting experience in and of itself with children when they were little, we would say, okay, here's the goal, we've got 30 days, we're going to try to hit 25 states and we don't have one thing planned.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Though what do you want to do?
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: And that's what we would do.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: We would let them create the path and my wife would be Googling as we're driving.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: While I'm driving and trying to keep things on the road, the kids and my wife were playing games in the back and my wife was Googling the next KOA or the next tourist trap or the next thing that you never knew you needed to see, and it would veer us off into these lands of wonder where you would discover stuff that nobody had given us any suggestions to go see.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: That were the best parts of the trip.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: You know the Gothic American house in Iowa that you know.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: The dad and the daughter are standing in front of it on their painting, or I mean there's so many different things that we were like we never would have seen that had we not just lived in the curiosity.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: And I do make a living as a speaker and that's been a wonderful thing.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: But I say I make a living as a speaker, but I make a life as a listener and the reason that my life has been so great is because I listened so well to the opportunities around me and that's been probably one of my best parts is being a dad.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, love it.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: If you were to articulate we'll call it three actionable things that dads could take from our episode, or three actionable things that maybe you and your wife have chose to lead your kids.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Tell me what comes to mind.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Well gosh, I would probably lean into what I speak about at corporations and for people that really need leadership advice, and I've said the phrase signature moves a few times during this podcast so far.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: So let me just tell you what that is move.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: It was hitting game, winning shots, or sticking out his tongue to dunk right.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: If you're to think of Tiger Woods, it was maybe the fist pump and the winning all the championships.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: So everybody has their signature move, I believe.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: And so, as a dad, what are your signature moves?
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: As a mom, what is it that makes you stand out in a sit-down world, and how can we help our kids discover that for themselves?
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: What are their signature moves?
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: So I'll give you a process that actually I created that really helps people understand this.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: It's called the ICM process.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I stands for identify, c for clarify, m magnify.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: So what you do is you sit down, either by yourself or with your children, and you say, okay, let's identify.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: This is just a silent practice for yourself.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Identify for yourself how many gifts, talents, skills and attributes you have.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Try to write down as many as you can without self-editing.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Just identify everything, whether it's I mean, it could be the most normal stuff in the world, like I play the piano, or I'm nice to people, or I'm good at creating or I can bake.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: I mean just simple stuff.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: But it's the cumulative addition of everything together that allows you to come up with this nice list.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: In fact, casey, when I do this with leaders, I say, hey, have you identified your signature moves?
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: And they look at me like I'm crazy, and and I just say, hey, let's write, let's write it down.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: And so we come up with a list of words, and I challenged them to come up with a hundred, and for a lot of people that's hard.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Like if I said, hey, write down 10 things you're good at.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: They're like I don't even know what I'm good at.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: But if I said, write down 10 things you're bad at, they'd be like oh, I can write down 20.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: And so I say, let's lean into what you're good at already, so identify as many as you can and start writing them.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: What's interesting, if I were to say entertainer was something I identified for myself.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I can then extract from the word entertainer all kinds of other talents and skills that I have that make me that whether it's being funny, musician, persistent, curious, you know, creative.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I mean all these words sort of funnel out of the words that we choose, and so that's how you come up with 100.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: What I like to then say is hey, take the top 10 you wrote down and circle the ones you love, the ones that really stand out, and then I want you to put this list aside.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: This is a fun practice with your kids, especially because they're just like oh, I'm good at all these things, especially when they're young.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: When they're young, they're like I'm an artist and I can sing and I can dance and you're like, you know, even if they're bad at it, they think they're great at everything.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: It's the best.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: This is tougher with teens, but this is where the next part of ICM comes in Clarify, c is where you involve other people, and so now clarify with the people you know love and trust to give you the words that you didn't catch yourself perhaps, and so you could say to, if I'm a man going through it, my wife, I could ask her if I'm brave enough.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Hey, give me some words that you think are my signature moves, that make me uniquely who I am.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Now you could also do this with your kid, with your parents, with your friends, with your coworkers with your boss.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I mean this is a really powerful tool because they're going to give you words you never saw in yourself.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: They're going to clarify for you.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Like, if I say I'm funny, I identify, I'm funny, my coworker might clarify that I'm hilarious, that's a better word.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: And so then you can choose the words that you want from the identify list.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: You came up with yourself the clarify list, others came up for you.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Now you can magnify that by saying to yourself okay, here's my top 10 of identify and top 10 of clarify.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: When and where am I going to focus on these?
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: And you could even say on a Sunday, okay, I'm going to focus this week on creativity.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: How can I be more creative this week and lean into that signature move?
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: And I'm just telling you this will transform the way that you lead in your home.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: This will give you every opportunity to amplify and magnify the talents of the kids that you raise.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: And you know they may have identified some things you had no idea, like.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Maybe you know about the video games, but maybe you don't know that they really really love problem solving.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: You know, and you have other games or other really really love problem solving.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: You know, and you have other games or other ways to do some problem solving, even even with my kids.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I would say to them hey, you guys, I know you're in high school.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: I want you to look at my website and tell me what you think.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: If, if I were to make it better, how would you do that?
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: And they added for me some things and pieces I never would have known.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: And then I'd say, okay, well, why don't you look at my Instagram and my TikTok and how would you make that better?
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: And man for keeping the promise how do you keep the promise with your children and your family and yourself?
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: So when you do that, you live the ICM process.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Love it, man.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Well, you also showed you.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: So our, even though we use different words, I think our themes are aligned.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: You use you're using curiosity, and then you use humility and vulnerability by asking your kids for help.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Love it Right.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: You know that's awesome dude.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I wrote down this.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: I wrote this down and I can't wait to take my kids through it.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Um, specifically, you know the kid in college, um, and uh, one that's about to go to college.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: She's going to be a senior, which I just cannot fricking believe, but it is what it is, and awesome.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Um, okay, if people want to learn more about Jason, you've hit them in the heart.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: You've hit them in the brain.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: They're like God.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: How can I follow this dude?
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: I want to learn more about his stuff.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Tell me what's the best way I can make sure people know how to find you.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: That's very kind.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Jasonhulettcom is the best place.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: If they want actually a assessment form or worksheet on the ICM process, they can just go to jasonhewlettcom, forward slash ICM and there they'll get some cool stuff.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Linkedin I'm active on and Instagram and other social media but those are the fun places I play.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: And you know, casey, I was thinking as I shared the story of my dad and mom.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: When I was young, my parents did go through a breakup.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Things kind of fell apart in our world for a little while while I was building my own family up and I had a strange relationship with my dad for quite a while.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: And the only reason I'm sharing this as we're starting to wrap up is because there may be people out there that have experienced something similar, where their dad was their hero growing up and then things kind of fell apart into their adult years or perhaps later in life.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: The only reason I bring that up is because my dad almost died from needing a quadruple bypass when he was in his 60s and genetically we are a family that is supposed to die in our 60s from heart failure and heart disease and that's just what's happened to my grandpa, my great grandpa.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Everybody before us has passed that way.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: So I thought my dad would be gone by his 60s and at that time we were a bit estranged in our own way.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: But we started to come back together in the last few years because he created a product that helped him to actually make it not need a quadruple bypass and he was able to therapeutically fix his heart and his heart disease and reverse it through something called nitric oxide.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: And if you're an athlete, you know what nitric oxide does.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: It's it's you know.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: It's the way that you repair your muscles after a good workout.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Nitric oxide is a molecule that you create inside your own body through arginine and citrulline and amino acids and naturally and a lot of people have heard of the beets and that you can take beets and it's good for your health.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: But my dad created this product called Cardio Miracle that changed his life and saved it, and it's a natural supplement.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: This is not an MLM, this isn't a pitch or anything.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you because this has helped repair my relationship with my dad.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: And what happened was that as he figured out this product and he started telling everyone about how they could help themselves with cardiovascular issues, blood pressure issues it actually regulates your blood pressure, people with diabetes, other challenges that are you know whether it's PTSD or too many concussions from being hit in football?
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: The blood flow that goes into your microcapillaries changes everything when you take nitric oxide in your body and it's created there, and so my dad has been helping a lot of people with that.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: He left the insurance industry and financial planning as one of the most successful in the world, created this business out of nothing in his 60s and we just celebrated his 73rd birthday Wow.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: The reason I'm sharing this with your audience and with you is because we have reconciled our relationship and now my dad and I are best friends again.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Reconciled our relationship and now my dad and I are best friends again, and it came together through him figuring out a product that could save his own life and has now helped millions of people around the world.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: This product is doing well cardiomiraclecom.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: If anyone wants to check it out.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing and I thought I'd share it with you because, as a dad who cares and as someone who probably wonders where the relationship went with me and my dad, as favorable as it was through our youth, things were tricky as I became an adult and a new dad, and now we're back as best buddies again.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: He brought me on as the president of his company and so now I am running Cardio Miracle with my dad as a family legacy business.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: It is taking off.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Athletes, coaches, people around the world are using it, seeing their VO2 max change, seeing their ability to work out harder change.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: I'm just so grateful that something as your dad, almost dying from needing a quadruple bypass he can come back from the dead, essentially reverse his genetic fate.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: And here we are, 10 years later best friends again, talk every day, just celebrated Father's Day together, my birthday together.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I'm just so thankful to have a relationship with my dad that's firm and strong and good and the Hewlett name can continue to be raised up.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: And I think that a lot of people are confused when they see that their dad might go off in some weird space compared to what they did when they were young.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: I think everyone has to reconcile that to some extent in their lives as we become fathers ourselves.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: And then we look back and we say why was I so judgmental of my dad?
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Why didn't I see it?
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Because he was just my dad?
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Well, no, he's a person, he's a human who has struggles, who has to get through some things and thankfully he and mom are are are good pals.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: My dad has a wonderful wife that we're thrilled with and I'm just sharing that for potentially for hope for anybody that's out there thinking maybe you know there's no place for me to have a fixed relationship with my, my dad, in the future.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: There is always hope if we're willing to listen and to love and to learn, and that's been something we've done in our family.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: One I'd also encourage is to to share, like you didn't have to share, that this episode was, like you know shiny, happy people, we're all holding hands, rainbows.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: We've got these amazing kids.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Everyone's smart, everyone's straight.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: A's this all their mark in this?
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: But like that's real life.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Straight A's this, all their money in this, but like that's real life.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Episode two I got interviewed by my buddy and I talk about the journey of my dad, who passed away on December 29th 2021.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: And my dad, me and my wife took care of my dad financially, physically, emotionally in and out of assisted living facilities for 20 years.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Wow, um.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: When I built, when we built our home, my dad accused me of stealing all of his money to build our house.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: It was the dementia, the Alzheimer's, the you know, and so it's life's not.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks great on social media everybody, but I got shit too.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: I got tough times.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: We all got tough times and that's really what this journey of this podcast is about is.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: I just wanted whether you're the best speaker in the world, whether you're Jim Nance from CBS and hopefully Jim Nance is listening.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Brother, you got to come on because both of our dads passed away from Alzheimer's and we can do something together if you're listening, but it doesn't matter.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Like I was a corporate, I had a very successful corporate career.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: My kids didn't care.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: My kids cared hey dad, can we play catch?
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Hey dad, can we play golf?
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: Hey, can I go to Susie's house?
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: It's like what are we doing as dads to not let us get so wrapped?
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: up in what we do but doesn't define who we are, you know, and I love that you shared it, because we all go through adversity and I hope that's one thing that at least people can draw on the faith examples you shared, but also the adversity you shared.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: And just because you're having a bad day, this is kind of one thing I tell my clients.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: I teach is don't let one bad hour lead to one bad day and one bad day lead to one bad week.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: I mean the best part about time it resets.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: So we get 1,440 minutes each day and then it resets.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: So make the choice to do something tomorrow and you either can be that victim of your own story or the hero of your own story.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: You can get stuck in that negative loop or get out of it by asking for help, leaning in on the humility, the vulnerability, the curiosity going through this ICM process.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: That, I think, will provide a lot of clarity, because I totally agree with you, jason we all have gifts, every single one of us, right and so you gotta be like just curious and say, like you know, there's something I'm really, really good at now I'm not handy, I know that, but there's things like I am good at.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: So, um, yeah, I love that you shared that man.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Thanks for letting me share it.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, I felt that I needed to share it just because I think that, yeah, we do talk about the fun and all the goodness and everything, but there is the ugly, and some of the most beautiful things come out of the ugliest stuff 100%.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: And when it comes to I'm sorry about your dad and obviously people with dementia, alzheimer's, other challenges like this this is hard and one of the reasons that my dad has created this product, that has really been.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Actually, we actually got an email the other day from a guy with the early stages of dementia and he said I started taking the product as much as I possibly could and because it floods blood into your micro capillaries of your brain.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: What he said is he said I don't know what's gone on, but my doctors are confused as to why something has changed in me and I am better thinking I was going down the road of dimension.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: I think I might be okay.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, we were stunned to get these emails but like scientifically proven that the blood flow to those areas and cleaning out those capillaries can be very helpful to the brain, to the heart, to the soul, and it's a wonderful thing to now be on a mission to help people in a natural way through supplement rather than just medication and other things that can be just a little bandaid.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: That might help for a minute but, can actually potentially reverse some things that are very potentially, uh, you know, able to kill us.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: And so, uh, we're on a mission together, my dad and I.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: We've jumped off this cliff and it's been amazing thing.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: And, uh, he's, he's healthier than he's ever been.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: His, his blood pressure is the same as somebody in their teens, which is bizarre because he's 300 pounds and he's 73 years old and you know.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: So he calls it a mulligan on life, as you'll appreciate, as a golfer.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: And, and I can just tell you, man, it's just such a pleasure to get to talk about being a dad and now working with my dad.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know if my kids are going to work in this business with me.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: I would love that in the future, but I'm still going out and speaking, performing, helping people with their health Now.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what my kids are going to do and obviously what everyone's kids are going to do is amazing and I just am excited that they have the opportunity to keep the promise every single day in all that they do.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: So good, brother, all right, we now go into what I call the lightning round.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: This is where I show the negative hits.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Have taken too many hits in college not bong hits, but football hits when I'm going to ask you lightning quick questions.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Your job is to answer them as quickly as possible.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: My job is to make you giggle.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Well, that'll be easy.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: I'm a good audience, let's go.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, True or false?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Before doing impersonations such as Elton John, you were going to do Total Africa.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: No, not true.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Last book you read was oh, uh, get quiet.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: By Elaine glass.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, if you were to go on vacation with just your wife.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: Sorry, kids, you're staying home.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Where are we going?
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: Matterhorn Switzerland.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, I thought you meant like the Matterhorn, the ride at Disneyland.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: I was like that's kind of odd.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Switzerland, okay, I thought you meant like the Matterhorn, the ride at Disneyland.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: I was like that's kind of odd.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: No, I've never been there, wanted to go there, okay.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Um, if I came to your house for dinner tonight, what would you cook me?
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Eggs, okay, that's all I can cook.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: No, I'd, I'd throw on a burger.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: That would be it.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: You could put eggs on the burger.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Eggs and burgers, man, that's what I've got.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: It sounds good.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: George Foreman grill Solid.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: Didn't George Foreman pass away RIP.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, we've got to honor George.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, we used the grill.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: I cook eggs and beef on the Foreman Love it.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: If there was to be a new impersonation that you do in Vegas that might push outside your comfort zone, but deep down you're like.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: You know what I think I'd like to try doing that person.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Who would it be?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Bruno Mars.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: I've been working really hard to figure that one out.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: That's a hard voice but it's very similar to Michael Jackson and some of those real good belting type singers like James Brown and stuff.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's Bruno Mars.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: It's a hard one.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: Now, if I'm judging my kid skill, teen music isn't 24 Karat Magic goal.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Isn't that him, Bruno Mars, 24 Karat Magic in the air.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Oh there we go.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: There it is.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Let's go somewhere.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: Look out, Uptown Funkin' Guilty yeah, there you go.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Oh God, we got issues, yeah there you go oh God, we got issues.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: This is fun though.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, If there was to be a book written about your life.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Tell me the title.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, I mean the Promise.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: That's where I'm at with everything that I talk about.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: So the Promise?
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: I love that title.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: Okay now, jason, believe it or not, you heard of Netflix.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Heck yeah.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: You heard of Hulu.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: They're fighting for the promise, brother.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: They want to make a movie and you are now the casting director and I need to know who is going to star Jason Hewlett in this critically acclaimed, hit new movie, the Promise.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: That's funny.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: So last week I got a couple people comparing me to certain celebrities.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: I got Matt Damon the most, which.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: I found very funny.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: One guy said James Hetfield, the lead singer of Metallica.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: And I've gotten Ben Affleck, I've gotten a couple of different looks, but uh, yeah, man, I would say if there's anyone you would want to play you in a movie, it would.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: It would have to be probably Timothée Chalamet.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: He's the.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: It would.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: It would have to be probably Timothy Chamelet, he's the.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: He's the one that just did the, uh, the Bob Dylan one.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: So I would say, if, if there was a best actor, now that's the coolest I'd say him.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: My favorite actor of all time would be Daniel Day-Lewis to play it.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: Hmm, solid, okay, and then last, uh last question tell me two words that would describe your wife.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, gorgeous, light.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: Boom, love it.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: Lighting rounds complete.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Uh, I'm random, I have, I'm weird.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Uh, he gig a little bit, but I think I giggled more of my own jokes, which means I take the loss.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: You get the dub Uh, jake, this has been a fricking blast.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: And uh, everybody's scoring a home.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: I showed Jason a blank piece of paper and now we're an hour and one minute into this thing.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: We had just a fricking, fantastic, deep conversation.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: So, and I would encourage you, you don't need a podcast to have these types of conversations, you just need a little bit of curiosity.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: And if you haven't asked your friends some of the things I asked Jason, go do it, find out more about them, find out about your kids, find out about your spouse, find out more about yourself and watch what will happen.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: So, man, I'm grateful our paths have crossed.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: I'm really grateful to Greg Offner for introducing us.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: Hope we can meet in person one day and I hope this is not the last time we talk, brother, but I really, really appreciate you.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Thanks Case.