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FREAK DIDDY Dresses As Muslim Woman, Nude From Neck Down At Freakoff · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A bombshell in the courtroom.
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  Speaker 1: A witness describing Seawan Combs aka Diddy, fully nude from
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  Speaker 1: the neck down, disguising his face as a Muslim woman
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  Speaker 1: at a freak cough with the male punisher escort this
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  Speaker 1: as we hear about a federal raid on his Miami
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  Speaker 1: mansion where.
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  Speaker 2: Crates of baby oil.
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  Speaker 1: Sex toys, ropes, and guns with serial numbers scraped off seized.
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  Speaker 1: I'mancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. I want to thank
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  Speaker 1: you for being with us.
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  Speaker 3: He is obsessed. I'm in the biggest.
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  Speaker 2: Tootsy roll, the size of a tutsy roll.
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  Speaker 1: About that's ed b d d dy ed bdddy the
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  Speaker 1: Tutsi roll.
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  Speaker 2: Sean Combs is Tutsi roll.
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  Speaker 1: We are live at the courthouse and joining us now
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  Speaker 1: investigative reporter Laurenland, star of Pop Crime TV.
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  Speaker 2: Lauren, thank you for being with us. A lot happening
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  Speaker 2: in the courtroom today.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, we kicked it off this morning with
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  Speaker 1: direct examination of a special agent, Girard Gannon.
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  Speaker 2: What happened this morning in court?
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  Speaker 4: We finished the direct examination of special Agent Girard Gannon.
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  Speaker 4: He's with the HSI and he finished showing us all
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  Speaker 4: of the evidence that was collected during the Miami raid
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  Speaker 4: of Sean Colins's house, and this is his house on
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  Speaker 4: Two Star Island and what they seized from the house.
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  Speaker 4: They seized two defaced AR fifteens, and these AR fifteens
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  Speaker 4: they were separated. We saw the the lower barrels and
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  Speaker 4: the upper barrels. The upper barrels were actually they were
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  Speaker 4: wrapped in a towel and the lower barrels were in
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  Speaker 4: a separate spot. And the magazines were not with the
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  Speaker 4: lower barrels. However, the lower magazines were loaded, both of them.
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  Speaker 1: You know, a lot is being made of the of
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  Speaker 1: agents at the raid, and I find that very very disturbing.
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  Speaker 1: Sidney Sumner, also joining US Crime Story's investigative reporter Sydney,
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  Speaker 1: I understand there were dozens of federal agents at the raid,
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  Speaker 1: So what what's the issue?
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  Speaker 5: Well, Nancy agents went in feeling like they were going
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  Speaker 5: to be confronted by armed guards. That's what they thought
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  Speaker 5: they were walking into when they came into this house.
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  Speaker 5: They specifically waited for Comes and his family to leave
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  Speaker 5: before they entered to avoid any more confrontation. They only
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  Speaker 5: found six people at the home, a music producer who
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  Speaker 5: has not been named, a property manager, and a few
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  Speaker 5: other staff members. But they put all of those people
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  Speaker 5: in handcuffs to go into the home. And there were
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  Speaker 5: ninety agents total just about and they had people sitting
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  Speaker 5: out at the water to make sure nobody tried to
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  Speaker 5: flee into the canal right behind his home. They had
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  Speaker 5: to come into this in full force, and they were right.
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  Speaker 5: They found a r's with several modifications scratched off serial numbers.
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  Speaker 5: They knew they were possibly coming into a firefight and
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  Speaker 5: prepared for it.
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  Speaker 1: You are seeing shots now of the Miami mansion that
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  Speaker 1: was rated. The Feds even have the backside that is
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  Speaker 1: on the water completely surrounded.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, Sidney Summer.
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  Speaker 1: You and I've covered a lot of cases together when
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  Speaker 1: we've gone on location and investigated a lot of cases.
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  Speaker 1: You know what a gun it makes a big man
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  Speaker 1: little and a little man big.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Let's tell it like it is.
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  Speaker 1: Chris mcgunn adjoining me former homicide to detective, A star
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  Speaker 1: of the Interview Room now on YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: Chris mcdunna. You get an AR going, you get an
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  Speaker 2: M sixteen going.
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  Speaker 1: How many Feds could they shoot down in about thirty seconds.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot.
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  Speaker 7: And that's why these operations. You know, you start out
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  Speaker 7: with an OP plan and you discover those vulnerabilities and
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  Speaker 7: relationship to officer safety.
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  Speaker 3: You know, where do.
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  Speaker 7: Officers need to be placed and are they safe in
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  Speaker 7: those positions based on the potential threats that you could
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  Speaker 7: be facing.
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  Speaker 1: They would be mowed down like an old gangster movie
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  Speaker 1: where machine guns are used.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, you got to hand it to the fans. McDonough.
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  Speaker 1: They even had the backside cover that bordered on the
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  Speaker 1: water because I could absolutely see some of Dde's cohorts
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  Speaker 1: trying to.
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  Speaker 2: Make a getaway by water.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely, And Nancy, I actually had a case where five
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  Speaker 6: guys were mowed down within ten seconds from an automatic weapon.
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  Speaker 7: It was an SKS.
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  Speaker 1: You know when you just said that, that put a
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  Speaker 1: chill down me because I've had friends that were gunned
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  Speaker 1: down over nothing, cops LA law enforcement. So when I
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  Speaker 1: hear them in court going on and on and on about.
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  Speaker 2: How excessive it was.
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  Speaker 1: At eighty agents surrounded this mansion.
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  Speaker 2: They were armed to the hilt.
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  Speaker 1: Sidney Sunders, Did I hear you say that the serial
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  Speaker 1: numbers were scratched off some of the weapons.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, both of those assault rifles, Nancy. The AR fifteen's,
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  Speaker 5: these serial numbers were scratched through, so it's unclear exactly
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  Speaker 5: how they were obtained. If Colme's bottom with the cereal,
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  Speaker 5: I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: If the Angel Gabriel came down from heaven and dropped
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  Speaker 1: them in Diddy's lap. That is a serious, serious offense. McDonough,
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  Speaker 1: jump in, this is critical. You know why serial numbers
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  Speaker 1: are scraped off of weapons.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely, Nancy, And this tells us maybe there's a wider
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  Speaker 6: neck here.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 6: What the FEDS are going to do is throw it
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  Speaker 6: into the system called NIVEN, which is the National Ballistic
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  Speaker 6: Information Network, and they're going to see if these weapons
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  Speaker 6: are tied into any other crimes anywhere in the country.
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  Speaker 2: Put him up.
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  Speaker 1: You think a bad guy is going to go to
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  Speaker 1: the gun and knife show down at the mall and
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  Speaker 1: buy a gun Hlno, they get weapons like Ar's basically
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  Speaker 1: machine guns on the black market. Why is a serial
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  Speaker 1: number scraped off because that gun could be connected to
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  Speaker 1: another serious crime. I want to see McDonough. McDonough, you
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  Speaker 1: need to get real on this. You think they've ever
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  Speaker 1: found the gun that killed Tupac Shakur or guns that
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  Speaker 1: are related to many many other ag assault shootings and murders.
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  Speaker 2: No, they've never been recovered.
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  Speaker 1: And if they were recovered, unless you do a ballistics test,
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  Speaker 1: you don't know if it's the murder weapon or the
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  Speaker 1: assault weapon. Why, because criminals scrape off the serial numbers.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't get this.
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  Speaker 7: No, you're one hundred percent right, Nancy.
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  Speaker 3: And here's the other question.
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  Speaker 1: I heard that I nearly did a backflip. A backflip,
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  Speaker 1: because that's what that means. When you scratch off the
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  Speaker 1: VN number, the VI I N on a car, it's stolen.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, think about it like this.
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  Speaker 1: We see movies all the time where criminals go and
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  Speaker 1: they try to change their looks, they try to have
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  Speaker 1: their their fingerprints change by scraping the skin off nearly impossible.
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  Speaker 1: They'll do anything to hide evidence of a violent crime.
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  Speaker 1: And that is what scraping the serial number off a
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  Speaker 1: gun means. When I heard that, I forgot, I forgot
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  Speaker 1: all about the baby oil and the TUTSI roll because
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  Speaker 1: that means.
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  Speaker 2: To me these guns were illegal.
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  Speaker 1: Now I got to figure out why crimes, if any, were.
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  Speaker 2: They connected too.
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  Speaker 1: I can't stress enough, how serious it is that he
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  Speaker 1: had a cash of weapons.
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  Speaker 2: Serious weapons.
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean Grandma's daisy rifle in the back of
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  Speaker 1: the closet wrapped up in a quilt. I mean this
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  Speaker 1: kind of weapon, nasty weapons. And why were those serial
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  Speaker 1: numbers scratched off?
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  Speaker 2: No good reason?
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  Speaker 1: Straight back to Lauren Colin other In addition to all
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  Speaker 1: the weapons, I mean a lot of weapons. What can
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  Speaker 1: you tell me about women's shoes with seven inch platform heels?
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  Speaker 4: And it was pretty wild to see a special agent
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  Speaker 4: hold up seven inch heels in court that just happened
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  Speaker 4: to be patent leather and red. We saw Balenciaga boots
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  Speaker 4: that had three different cell phones in them, and then
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  Speaker 4: we saw a fourth cell phone in a separate room.
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  Speaker 2: We saw a.
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  Speaker 4: Gucci bag that was filled with a rolled up one
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  Speaker 4: hundred dollars bill. Different types of pills, yellow, orange, pink,
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  Speaker 4: different powders. We saw eye drops and later these drugs
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  Speaker 4: were tested and they were confirmed to be hook ketamine
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  Speaker 4: an MDMA actually in an eye dropper, and there were
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  Speaker 4: actually three orange tablets they found with Tesla symbols on them.
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  Speaker 4: And oh, we also saw xanax. Drugs were tested for xanax.
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  Speaker 4: There also was a wooden box in the bathroom they
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  Speaker 4: found and on top of that wooden box was a
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  Speaker 4: gold inscription that said Puffy. There were mushroom pills in that,
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  Speaker 4: and then a bag of crystal rocks that turns out
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  Speaker 4: was MDMA.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Sidney Sumner, that reminds me of one of
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  Speaker 1: the first times we heard about a male escort.
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  Speaker 2: And look, I'm not the church lady. I don't care
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  Speaker 2: you want to be with a male escort. Just you
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  Speaker 2: know what, get after it.
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  Speaker 1: The point is bringing in prostitutes, bringing in sex workers
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  Speaker 1: across state lines is the federal offense, and that is
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  Speaker 1: one of the charges in the indictment. That's why I care,
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  Speaker 1: And because more than one woman claims they were drugged
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  Speaker 1: out of their gourd and wake up.
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  Speaker 2: With painting their vagina and their rear.
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  Speaker 1: Ends having been exposed to or participating in sex acts
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  Speaker 1: unbeknownst to them with these male sex workers. So that's
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  Speaker 1: why at the very beginning, Sidney Sumner, we heard that
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  Speaker 1: one male sex worker showed up, knocks at the door.
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  Speaker 1: Cassie comes to the door wearing scantily clad and lingerie
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  Speaker 1: and these heels. I guarantee you it's not Diddy walking
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  Speaker 1: around in eight inch platform heels. He has the women
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  Speaker 1: dress up in various outfits and we see all those
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  Speaker 1: heels at his Miami Man to Sydney.
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  Speaker 5: That's completely correct, Nancy. And we heard a similar story
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  Speaker 5: from both of the male escorts that have testified that
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  Speaker 5: they believed they were coming for some kind of bachelorette party.
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  Speaker 5: And then this woman opens the door. She's by herself
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  Speaker 5: except for her purported husband in the corner of the room,
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  Speaker 5: and she's disguised. She's wearing some kind of lingerie, a
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  Speaker 5: matching wig, some kind of heels, and it just doesn't
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  Speaker 5: it doesn't make sense the defensive theory that they're saying
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  Speaker 5: that this is all just private sex matter for Sean
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  Speaker 5: Diddy Combs. There is no reason to own half of
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  Speaker 5: the Spencer Store and just keep that in your home.
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  Speaker 5: If that's purely for personal use where there's not more
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  Speaker 5: than one person involved, you're not having opious amounts of
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  Speaker 5: freak off parties. It just it doesn't crap.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's what we think, Sydney, but that's not what
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  Speaker 1: the defense is going to argue that Sean Combs things.
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  Speaker 1: Their theory is Their argument is that all of this
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  Speaker 1: was consensual, and I guess all of these women are lying,
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  Speaker 1: and Shawn Combs is the Okay, there's great a baby,
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  Speaker 1: old and astroglide.
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  Speaker 2: And that all the women are lying and Sean Combs
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  Speaker 2: is the only one telling the truth.
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  Speaker 1: Now hold on, We've heard this week about a Louis
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  Speaker 1: Vuitton bag, a huge Louis stuffed full of horse trunk, ecstasy, cocaine,
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  Speaker 1: pink cocaine, plan Be birth control pills, and of course
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  Speaker 1: high powered viagra.
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  Speaker 2: Diddy needs his viagra.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna have to go to our shrink in
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  Speaker 1: a moment about mushroom pills, crystal rocks that are md
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  Speaker 1: NA and what effect that has?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'll ask him right now.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me Scott Johnson, Forensics Psychologists, thirty three years addressing
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  Speaker 1: sex Predators Forensicconsultation dot org.
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  Speaker 2: It's where you can find him, author.
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  Speaker 1: Of Physical Abusers and Sex Offenders. When I Love You
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  Speaker 1: Turns Violent. That's another book. Scott Johnson, thank you for
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  Speaker 1: being with us. What is md M.
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  Speaker 2: A and what effect does it have on a person?
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  Speaker 8: All right, so you have the ecstasy basically by the
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  Speaker 8: street name, and you have people that become delusional. It's
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  Speaker 8: difficult to say no. At higher levels, it may cause
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  Speaker 8: a euphoric statement where people are kind of out of
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  Speaker 8: touch with reality, sort of delusional. But it's very difficult
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  Speaker 8: to say no or to resist when you're under the
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  Speaker 8: influence of these medications.
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  Speaker 1: Ecstasy Molly is a stimulant with psychedelic properties.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it is.
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  Speaker 1: And if you drop it in one of these ladies' drinks,
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  Speaker 1: there's no telling what I think it's going to.
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  Speaker 2: Have on her. Lauren Collin in front to the courthouse
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  Speaker 2: very quickly.
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  Speaker 1: Laura, I want to ask you about what happened when
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  Speaker 1: we got to Diddy's bathroom of his mansion that was raided.
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  Speaker 4: The bathroom, yeah, and then we got to a bathroom
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  Speaker 4: where we saw two containers and in one container there
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  Speaker 4: was twenty five bottles of baby oil and thirty one
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  Speaker 4: bottles of astroglide, and I actually spotted two rubber duckies,
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  Speaker 4: a little bit confusing. And when they asked a special agent,
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  Speaker 4: were there more baby oil that you found, he said yes,
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  Speaker 4: and there was because we saw a mini crate of
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  Speaker 4: baby oil during his direct testimony the day before now,
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  Speaker 4: right around when he was testifying. Diddy's sons, Justin and
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  Speaker 4: Christian walked in and did he turned around. He didn't smile,
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  Speaker 4: but he nodded his head at them.
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  Speaker 1: Also, we learned a lot in the core room today.
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  Speaker 1: There was a photo Lauren Conlin, a photo that no
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  Speaker 1: one could figure out what exactly it was. It was
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  Speaker 1: never broadcast to the open courtroom. What happened there was.
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  Speaker 4: A sealed photo that was shown to the special agent
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  Speaker 4: and just the attorneys, and they made sure that all
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  Speaker 4: the cameras were off in the courtroom. The overflow room
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  Speaker 4: was off and apparently, you know, they said something along
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  Speaker 4: the lines of do you recognize this photo? They seized
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  Speaker 4: over five hundred photos from that home.
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  Speaker 2: Is this you know?
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  Speaker 4: Is this Sean Colmes? Don't identify anyone else in the photo.
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  Speaker 4: So a lot of us were like, hmm, this seems
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  Speaker 4: like it could be something important, but we don't really
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  Speaker 4: know at this point. Yeah, and then Teddy Geragos just
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  Speaker 4: reiterated that the guns that the AR fifteen's the way
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  Speaker 4: they were shown to the jury, they were shown whole,
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  Speaker 4: but she wanted to reiterate that they were in fact
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  Speaker 4: separated when HSI found them. When the HSI agent was
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  Speaker 4: going through all of this evidence. Diddy didn't really show
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  Speaker 4: much of a reaction. He sat back in his chair.
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  Speaker 4: He was very stoic, and occasionally he would look at
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  Speaker 4: the binder at some of the evidence, but not much
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  Speaker 4: of a reaction at all. The same goes for when
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  Speaker 4: doctor Don Hughes, the forensic psychologist specializing and trauma was testifying,
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  Speaker 4: he really had had no reaction.
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  Speaker 2: And that's that's kind of been his vibe.
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  Speaker 1: This morning, we are live at the courthouse bringing you
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  Speaker 1: the latest and the federal government versus Sean Combs, a
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  Speaker 1: multi count federal indictment. Did he raging over last week's
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  Speaker 1: Tutsi role reveal?
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, did he's really angry this time?
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  Speaker 1: Oh so he's mad about his Tutsi rol everybody finding
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  Speaker 1: out about that?
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  Speaker 2: He is mad about? What is he mad about? Throngs
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  Speaker 2: of people not coming to the courthouse.
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  Speaker 1: Ever since I started investigating Seawan Combs, all I've thought
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  Speaker 1: about was candy, candy, candy.
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  Speaker 2: You know what. I can barely open this Tutsi roll, Midgie.
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  Speaker 2: You know suddenly I've lost my appetite. Shawn comes, and
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  Speaker 2: I think it's because of you. We are learning that
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  Speaker 2: in one.
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  Speaker 1: Episode one Free Cough, as it is ephemistically called, some
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  Speaker 1: people call it sex trafficking, that Shawn comes actually dressed
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  Speaker 1: as a Muslim woman and a conservative dress a burka
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  Speaker 1: where all you see are just the little slits of
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  Speaker 1: the eyes. Now, yes, Shawn Combs was dressed in conservative
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  Speaker 1: female Muslim dress at berka from the neck up from
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  Speaker 1: the neck down.
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  Speaker 2: Quite the dichotomy. He was entirely nude. Listen.
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  Speaker 9: The Punisher aka CHARAE Hayes explains he earned the nickname
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  Speaker 9: for his basketball playing. He's been an exotic dancer since
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  Speaker 9: nineteen ninety five. He has thought he was booked for
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  Speaker 9: a bachelorette party at the Trump International Hotel, but the
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  Speaker 9: woman in a wig who answered the door, he explained
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  Speaker 9: her husband wanted to watch them together and instructed him
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  Speaker 9: to pretend like the man in the corner wearing nothing
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  Speaker 9: but a burka to cover his face.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't there?
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  Speaker 1: Straight out to Lauren Colin standing by at the courthouse,
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  Speaker 1: uh burka, who is the Punisher?
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  Speaker 4: We heard the testimony of Sharay Hayes aka the Punisher,
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  Speaker 4: another escort that used to work with Cassie and Ditty,
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  Speaker 4: and this escort testified that he heard Cassie sigh a
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  Speaker 4: few times when she was being directed by Ditty during
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  Speaker 4: these freak offs. He mentioned a lot of the same
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  Speaker 4: things that the other escort mentioned on the stand. Daniel Phillip,
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  Speaker 4: the way the room was set up.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Now, as much as we want to laugh about
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  Speaker 1: Sean Combs aka Ditty dressing as a conservative Muslim lady
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  Speaker 1: from the neck up and then the dichotomy comes completely
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  Speaker 1: nude from the neck down, yet that might be fun
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  Speaker 1: for a minute, like talking about his Midgie Tutsi role.
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  Speaker 1: But the significance of what Lauren Colin just reported is
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  Speaker 1: that surely Hayes aka the Punisher, and I believe we
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  Speaker 1: have a photo of mister Hayes somewhere. What he says
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  Speaker 1: corroborates what other sex workers say, and transporting sex workers
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  Speaker 1: from out of state into this jurisdiction for free coughs
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  Speaker 1: is illegal. That's making out an element of the crime.
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  Speaker 1: What more did the punisher say, Lauren Colin?
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  Speaker 4: He also mentioned that he experienced a rectile dysfunction as.
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  Speaker 2: Well, although sure Hayes.
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  Speaker 4: Was experiencing it before did he and Cassie. Whereas Daniel
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Phillip said he started it because of Didy and Cassie.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: Now the punisher or Hayes, also wrote a book about
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: a reptile dysfunction, and there was a moment in court
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: where every but he kind of laughed because the book
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: is called In Search of Freezer.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Meet Crime Stories with Nancy Greece straight out to that
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: one trial lawyer joining us Eric Fattus, trial lawyer or
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: TV legal analyst, founding partner of Varner Fattus, elite legal
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: former prosecutor Eric Fattus. How are you going to get
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: that mental image out of the juror's minds? Because if
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: you say anything about it as a defense attorney in
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: closing argument, it's going to make him think of it again.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: But just hold this thought.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Fattest Shawn comes having a sex worker, a male sex worker,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the punisher flown in from out of state.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: When he comes to the door, there's Shawn Comes wearing
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: a burkra.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: To hear and nothing from here down and then sitting
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: back in the corner masturbating and telling the sex worker
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: how to do his business. Hey, are you going to
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: get that out of the guar's minds?
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Fattest Nancy A.
• 21:08
  Speaker 10: Jarring image, not something you would ever want to highlight
• 21:11
  Speaker 10: on the defense side. However, you know, his testimony really
• 21:15
  Speaker 10: kind of detailed sort of a threesome and and kind
• 21:19
  Speaker 10: of a cuckhold sort of situation. And as you know,
• 21:22
  Speaker 10: that might offend the delicate sensibility of some, but it is.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Did you say the people actually still say that that word? Well,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: a man whose why or lover is cheating on him.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I thought the whole point of that is that the
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: husband doesn't know about it.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: It sounds like you might know more about it than me.
• 21:39
  Speaker 10: I'm not sure, but but but what it sounds like
• 21:42
  Speaker 10: in this testimony, In this testimony, you know, they're talking
• 21:46
  Speaker 10: about threesomes and and and you know, while some people
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: might not be so jazzed about that, that's something that's
• 21:52
  Speaker 10: happening in the bedrooms of Americans every night across the country.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: And his testimony from Okay, that's the best thing you've
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: got for me is that wasn't a free cough, it
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: was actually a free threesome. Okay, I'll let you work
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: on getting that mental image out of the minds of
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: the jurars.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Listen to this.
• 22:11
  Speaker 11: Hayes testifies he did not recognize the couple during their
• 22:15
  Speaker 11: first freak cough, but on his next invitation to the
• 22:17
  Speaker 11: Essex House, he flipped on the TV a welcome message
• 22:20
  Speaker 11: for mister Combs appeared in Hayes, a fan put the
• 22:23
  Speaker 11: pieces together. Hayes says he participated in maybe eight to
• 22:27
  Speaker 11: twelve freak offs between twenty twelve and twenty sixteen. Hayes
• 22:30
  Speaker 11: says it was difficult to focus under Comb's stare, and
• 22:33
  Speaker 11: when he wasn't able to perform for a session, he
• 22:36
  Speaker 11: was asked to leave and never hired again.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's neither here nor there. This is not
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: an element of proof. But joining me right now is
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Rob Shooter, longtime p R guru two Puffy aka Diddy
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: aka Shawn Combs doesn't work for me anymore. He is
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the host of a hit podcast, Naughty but Nice. He's
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: that's at robshooter dot substack dot com, and he's the
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: author of a book Before Word Answer Rob Shooter. I'm
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: trying to keep count up. How many men has did
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: he given erectile dysfunction? I've already got I think three,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: and that's just the ones.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: That I know of. I mean, say, and certainly.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: It's it's hard to perform for did he apparently?
• 23:21
  Speaker 12: So we find out three three gentlemen have a rectile
• 23:24
  Speaker 12: dysfunction while being hired to have an erection. So that's
• 23:28
  Speaker 12: a problem. There, a job problem. However, I'm being flippant.
• 23:31
  Speaker 12: What I'm talking about here, Nancy, and I've been listening
• 23:33
  Speaker 12: to you very carefully, is these disguises. This is something
• 23:37
  Speaker 12: that I think I can give you a real insight into.
• 23:40
  Speaker 12: When I worked with Puffy, although I thankfully never saw
• 23:43
  Speaker 12: him in a bedroom situation, I did see him go
• 23:46
  Speaker 12: out out like a lot, and he often wore disguises.
• 23:49
  Speaker 12: I've been to restaurants with Puffy where he wore baseball cap,
• 23:53
  Speaker 12: dark glasses. I've even known him wear a fake beard
• 23:56
  Speaker 12: and a mustache. And so he's a mass mister of
• 23:59
  Speaker 12: the shooter.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Are you actually equating Diddy disguising himself as a female
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: conservative Muslim lady from the neck up with the burker
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: and then completely.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Nude from the neck down. That's something I do not
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: want to see.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I've already had to think about this. The Tritsi roll midgie,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Now I got to think about that.
• 24:25
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it's not a good look, Nancy. However, the point
• 24:28
  Speaker 12: I'm trying to make here is that this is somebody
• 24:30
  Speaker 12: who knows how to be undercover. He's very famous, but
• 24:33
  Speaker 12: he's also very slippery. When Puffy does not want to
• 24:37
  Speaker 12: be noticed, he isn't He lived in New York City
• 24:40
  Speaker 12: for a long time, so.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: You think completely nude from the chin down and wearing
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: a burker from the chin up makes him not notice.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I mean that would make me look right at him.
• 24:51
  Speaker 12: Well, you can't see his face. And that's the point here,
• 24:55
  Speaker 12: is that people don't know a strange.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Person is in the room.
• 24:58
  Speaker 12: He could be covering his face with a mask, and
• 25:01
  Speaker 12: so it's a very unusual thing to pick a burker.
• 25:04
  Speaker 12: Although I think I have a little insight into that.
• 25:06
  Speaker 12: He was a huge fan of Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson
• 25:09
  Speaker 12: used to wear burke as when he wanted to go
• 25:11
  Speaker 12: out and not be recognized.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: So maybe that's the connection there.
• 25:15
  Speaker 12: But the point I'm trying to make is did he
• 25:17
  Speaker 12: knows how to disguise himself? And if this escort hadn't
• 25:21
  Speaker 12: seen did He's welcome message on the television, he might
• 25:25
  Speaker 12: still not know who he was performing for.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, so Rob Sheeter, you mentioned that did he like
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: to dress up, what kind of costumes, what kind of disguises.
• 25:33
  Speaker 12: I've seen dark sunglasses, I've seen fake beards, I've seen
• 25:39
  Speaker 12: fake mustaches, I've seen scarves, I've seen masks long before
• 25:44
  Speaker 12: COVID was a thing. And so he does know how
• 25:48
  Speaker 12: to dress down. He's not always did he He's not
• 25:51
  Speaker 12: always the center of attention. I've been in restaurants with
• 25:54
  Speaker 12: him where he slipped in and out. I've been on
• 25:57
  Speaker 12: aeroplanes with him where he slipped on and out. So
• 26:00
  Speaker 12: this is a guy who knows how to go under
• 26:02
  Speaker 12: cover when he wants to. He's not used to being
• 26:05
  Speaker 12: told no.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Shaun Kombs controlled every part.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Of her mind is a heat control for eachment.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: He is a vile, greedy abuser.
• 26:15
  Speaker 12: He is running the show, and this is the show
• 26:19
  Speaker 12: he thinks is going.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: To get him.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: He may be vile, he may be controlling, he may
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: be an abuser.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: But is he.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Guilty of all the counts or any of the counts
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: in this federal indictment? So far, according to my legal analysis,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: the charges of sex trafficking have been shown by not
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: only Cassi Venturra, but another female witness as well. Transportation
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: of male sex workers across state lines to engage in prostitution. Yes, now,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: racketeering is going to have to be explained to the jury.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Racketeering.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Just think about Tony Soprano, right, didn't anybody see Sopranos
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: on each It went for years and years and years.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: It is a loose confederation of people that engage altogether.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: To achieve a criminal act.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: In this criminal conspiracy, the act would be sex trafficking,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: bringing people in from various states to perform prostitution or
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: and to force women to engage in free coffs against
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: their wills.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Bam easy. Now.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Earlier, Eric Fattis God bless him was stating that the
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: free coffs were all consensual. But my question is what
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: woman in her right mind would consent to have sex
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: with not just a male escort, A lot of people
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: do that, but a convicted killer slash male escort.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Her series, Jigglos took over Vegas and the formula because
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: in Vegas these guys were stars.
• 28:02
  Speaker 10: Jigglos was fun, it was sexy, it was glamorous.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: It was Vegas on steroids. They owned the town. They
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: were traded like rock stars. Here's guys heres. We always
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: thought one of them would do something stupid.
• 28:16
  Speaker 9: We never thought one of them would be a murderer.
• 28:19
  Speaker 9: At least two of the male escorts. Cassie identified worf
• 28:23
  Speaker 9: It on the Showtime reality series Jigglows. What is also
• 28:27
  Speaker 9: a convicted murderer Okshaya Kubiak, who uses the name ash
• 28:31
  Speaker 9: armand beat her lean Doulai to death. Kubiak claimed he
• 28:35
  Speaker 9: blacked out after taking mushrooms with Duly, one of Kubiak's clients,
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: and when he woke up the next morning, she was
• 28:41
  Speaker 9: brutally beaten to death.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna found it in pain because it lived in pain.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: We took mushrooms together last night.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: They were to struggle in concerts or breeding.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: We have the melody Dane right now.
• 28:55
  Speaker 10: Tossters and medical personnel arrived on scene and that female
• 28:58
  Speaker 10: was pronounced deceased.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: This was one of the worst meetings of a person
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: of a human that I've seen.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: The sole situation is what horror movies are made of.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: On the morning of the murder, they didn't call nine
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: one one first. They actually called another Jiggle.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Laugh that from Paramounts Sin City Jigglow. They find the
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: dead body and they don't call nine one one they
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: actually call another Jigglow. Okay, you know to Rachel Fisher
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: joining us a special guest joining Us. Rachel is an
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: anti trafficking expert featured in the twenty two documentary.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Surviving Sex Trafficking.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: She is a forensic nurse, a sex assault nurse examiner,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: an expert witness, and she is at Legal Art Inc.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Consult dot Org. Rachel, thank you for being with us.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: It's one thing to talk about Diddy dressed up in
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: a Muslim female burka from the neck up. It's another
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: thing to talk about this male escorts. Moniker is the punisher,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: but it's another thing to force a woman that would
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: be Cassie Ventura into sex with not just a Jiglo,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: but a convicted killer Jigglow.
• 30:15
  Speaker 13: That's the danger of forcing somebody to be involved in
• 30:19
  Speaker 13: a commercial sex act.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Whether you're the recipient.
• 30:22
  Speaker 13: Or you're the one performing it and getting paid for it,
• 30:24
  Speaker 13: that's still a commercial sex act that she was being
• 30:27
  Speaker 13: coerce and forced into. And you never know who's on
• 30:30
  Speaker 13: the other end of the call when you click that
• 30:32
  Speaker 13: ad online to order an escort, because you can get
• 30:34
  Speaker 13: one faster than you can get a pizza. In most places,
• 30:37
  Speaker 13: and whoever shows up, you don't know their background. It's
• 30:39
  Speaker 13: a very dangerous career to be in the sex industry,
• 30:43
  Speaker 13: and many of the people that are there are not
• 30:45
  Speaker 13: there willingly, and some are, but you never know what
• 30:48
  Speaker 13: their story is on the other side and what they're
• 30:50
  Speaker 13: going to come with. That's why we have so many
• 30:52
  Speaker 13: that are murdered when they're in the sex industry. Or
• 30:55
  Speaker 13: you get an in call where an escort comes to
• 30:57
  Speaker 13: you and you get murdered or robbed. It's a very
• 31:01
  Speaker 13: dangerous thing that you're forcing somebody to be a part of.
• 31:03
  Speaker 13: And whether he was there present for it or on
• 31:07
  Speaker 13: the phone on video in a different state across state lines,
• 31:11
  Speaker 13: he was still you know, causing all of that to
• 31:14
  Speaker 13: come to play. Whether somebody else was handling the finances,
• 31:17
  Speaker 13: somebody else was booking the ad, clicking the ad, responding
• 31:20
  Speaker 13: and chatting back and forth with the escorts that were coming.
• 31:23
  Speaker 13: There are multiple people involved, and so all of those
• 31:25
  Speaker 13: people become part of that scheme and you don't know,
• 31:29
  Speaker 13: you don't vet the person, you don't do a background
• 31:31
  Speaker 13: check on the escorts that you are bringing into your
• 31:35
  Speaker 13: home space. That's no longer safe because it's the fear
• 31:38
  Speaker 13: of the unknown. You don't know what you're going to
• 31:40
  Speaker 13: get until they show up.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: And same thing for the escort.
• 31:42
  Speaker 13: They don't know what they're walking into.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: You know, as Rob Shooter was saying earlier, let me
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: go to you, Rob Shooter, host of a hit podcast,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: notughty but nice and author, Rob Shooter. When I think
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: about Cassie Ventira, who was so desperate to please Shawn Combs,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: being put in this position over and over and over,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know how anyone could we see the photos
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: of Cassie's beaten face, the scar that needed plastic surgery
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: over her head, the bruises along her back, her mom
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: took pictures of these.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Rob Shooter, having.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Worked with Seawn Combs for so long, did you ever.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: See this side of him?
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I find it really hard to believe that Cassie would
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: go along with having sex on camera with a convicted killer, Jiglow.
• 32:47
  Speaker 12: It's incomprehensible. It makes no sense whatsoever to me. Did
• 32:51
  Speaker 12: I see any of this?
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: No.
• 32:53
  Speaker 12: I knew he had a temper, I knew he was bossy,
• 32:56
  Speaker 12: I knew he liked to do things his ways. Had
• 33:00
  Speaker 12: this sort of attitude where he was above the law.
• 33:02
  Speaker 12: Rules did not apply to him. So if you take
• 33:06
  Speaker 12: that to its logical conclusion, we end up where we
• 33:09
  Speaker 12: are today. I'm not sure when the turning point was
• 33:12
  Speaker 12: in Puff's life, but clearly that there was one when
• 33:15
  Speaker 12: he felt that he was invincible, and that's when the
• 33:19
  Speaker 12: monster that was probably always there was unleashed.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: A hole Louis Verton bag stuffed full of ecstasy, coke pie,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: The women were drugged out of their gourds, pie on horse,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: trying ecstasy, klonopin, and more.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I wonder what Idy Biddy did.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: He is feeling and thinking right now in a courtroom
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: as a Homewwn Security special agent describes everything that was
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: found in his mansion that was rated, crates of baby oil,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: asto glide.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: That's not against the law.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: What I care about are the federal counts in that
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: federal indictment. I guess I can put that down now,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: sex trafficking, extortion, transporting sex workers across state lines to
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: engage in transportation, to engage in prostitution.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: But to Eric Fadus, Eric.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Can we not spark just one moment and in simple
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: terms explain what Rico racketeering and a criminal organization means,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: to make it simple, it's a group of people, even
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: if loosely joined together like gang members, that together advance
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: the criminal enterprise.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Would you agree with that? It's essentially correct.
• 34:55
  Speaker 10: There are a few other wrinkles. There has to be
• 34:57
  Speaker 10: at least two predicate offenses of racketeering within a ten
• 35:02
  Speaker 10: year period, they have to be related, and also the
• 35:04
  Speaker 10: criminal enterprise has to have an effect on interstate commerce,
• 35:08
  Speaker 10: and so there are some significant requirements here. It's a
• 35:11
  Speaker 10: tall order to prove this charge in federal court, and
• 35:15
  Speaker 10: the prosecution is kind of just dipping their toes in
• 35:17
  Speaker 10: this now, and I'll be to the see kind of
• 35:19
  Speaker 10: what direction they take it and what predicate offenses they
• 35:22
  Speaker 10: can expose, because you know, look, marijuana, simple assault, those
• 35:26
  Speaker 10: kind of things, while they might be unlawful in some jurisdictions,
• 35:29
  Speaker 10: they are not necessarily predicate offenses that would qualify as
• 35:32
  Speaker 10: racketeering activity to support a RICO charge. Those are things
• 35:36
  Speaker 10: like murder, kidnapping, obstruction, victim and witness intimidation fall into
• 35:41
  Speaker 10: that category as well.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Sex trafficking. Sex trafficking would be the underlying felony. Okay,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: let me get right back down to what's happening in
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: the court room.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Take a listen to this.
• 35:55
  Speaker 14: Former assistant David James testifies that Combs was occasionally violent
• 35:59
  Speaker 14: with private shaff Jordan Atkinson. According to James, after an
• 36:03
  Speaker 14: altercation at his Alpine, New Jersey home, Combs instructed him
• 36:06
  Speaker 14: to file a police report, stating Atkinson was the aggressor
• 36:10
  Speaker 14: and hit him first. James, who witnessed the altercation, says
• 36:14
  Speaker 14: he simply drove around Alpine for roughly an hour before
• 36:17
  Speaker 14: returning and telling Combs it was filed. James says he
• 36:20
  Speaker 14: didn't want to comply with Combs's request because he did
• 36:23
  Speaker 14: not want to file a false report.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Sidney Sunmery joining me investigative reporter, Crime Stories. Sidney explained
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: to me, Am I getting this correct. The former assistant
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: David James described an incident where Seawan Comebs allegedly attacked
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: a female chef.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: But then wanted James to go.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: File a police report, stating it was the other way around,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: but James didn't do it.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: That's absolutely correct. James said that Combs and this chef
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: got into an altercation in Colmes. Immediately after it ended
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: came to James and asked him, look, let's go to
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: the cops. Let's file a police report, but make sure
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: it says that she attacked. She hit me first, she
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: was the aggressor. And James kind of did his okay, yeah,
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: I'll do that, and he got into a car and
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: just drove around for about an hour before returning home
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: and saying, yeah, filed it. It's in there. They'll contact
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: me if they need anything else from us. And the
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: whole time he never spoke to a police officer about
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: it because he didn't.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Want to be know what is proved about this Sydney.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: This right here, here we have rob shooter Seawn Colmbs
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: beating the Steve out of Cassie venture. She's holding up
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: her thett left hand to fight him off, and they're
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: going to argue, according to Geragos, and of course this
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: could change, just like the defense in Scott Peterson changed
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: from a satanic cult took Lacey to burglars to I
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: mean it changed over time. So at one point giy
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Ghost let it slip that the argument to defeat this
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: video is that Cassie ninety pound Cassie.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Is the aggressor here.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: She's the one giving him the booty beating over text
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: from another woman. Okay, she's the aggressor. Same thing with
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: the chef. See what I'm saying. The connection. So apparently
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: that's his MO modus operandi method of operation. He attacks
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: the woman, according to evidence, then says she's the aggressor.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Did he ever take responsibility for anything, Rob Shooter?
• 38:37
  Speaker 12: He took responsibility when everything went well. When things were
• 38:41
  Speaker 12: going good, it was because of him. When things were
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  Speaker 12: not going well, it was because of everybody else. But
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  Speaker 12: this video here, Nancy, this is the case. To me,
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  Speaker 12: This video changes everything. And there's some irony that a
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  Speaker 12: man who has spent his whole life putting out images,
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  Speaker 12: videos to make him into the star is is ultimately,
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  Speaker 12: I believe, going to be brought down because of this video.
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  Speaker 12: That is something that is going to be in the
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  Speaker 12: jury's mind. And the excuses are just excuses, and I
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  Speaker 12: think actually makes things worse for him that they're lame excuses.
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  Speaker 1: Shawn Colmbs on trial in a federal courtroom to Rob
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  Speaker 1: Shooter former PR guru Too, Shawn Combs, you just stated
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  Speaker 1: that Cove spent an entire lifetime curating an image through
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  Speaker 1: video and photos, Like what what image?
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  Speaker 3: Let me give you examples of this.
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  Speaker 12: There were images to make him look powerful, images to
• 39:50
  Speaker 12: make him look important, images to make him look literally
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  Speaker 12: like a king. I got Diddy was People magazine Sexiest
• 39:59
  Speaker 12: Men Alive issue. He wanted the cover. He did not
• 40:02
  Speaker 12: get that, but he was in the issue and he
• 40:05
  Speaker 12: shot it as if he was a king. He asked
• 40:07
  Speaker 12: at the photoshoot if he could have a crown on
• 40:10
  Speaker 12: his head, if he could have a coat, a fur coat.
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  Speaker 12: And he knew the power of images. I remember distinctly
• 40:18
  Speaker 12: he once said to me, Rob, the story doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 12: The headline and the photograph is all anybody remembers. He
• 40:28
  Speaker 12: knew the power of media, he knew the power of video,
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  Speaker 12: and he exploited it. And now it's going to bite
• 40:34
  Speaker 12: him in the bumber.
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  Speaker 1: Sydney Sumner. Toward the end of the day, a shrink
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  Speaker 1: was on the stand. What can you tell me about
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  Speaker 1: doctor Don Hughes, Nancy.
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  Speaker 5: We know that Don Hughes has testified for several important cases.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: She was called at the stand for r. Kelly's case,
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: Keith Bernieri, that sex traficking case. She even testified in
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: Amber Depth and Amberhurd and Johnny Depp's trial and she
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  Speaker 5: is a blind witness here. She is not privy to
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  Speaker 5: the facts of the case. She hasn't spoken to Cassie Ventura.
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  Speaker 5: She admitted on the stand she has seen a little
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  Speaker 5: bit of news coverage about the case, but she is
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  Speaker 5: not familiar with exactly what happened here, and she is
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  Speaker 5: testifying to give the jury an insight into why Cassie's
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: seen in this relationship for so long.
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  Speaker 1: We wait as justice and Foles in the courtroom, and
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  Speaker 1: now we remember an American hero, police officer Demitris Johnson
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  Speaker 1: thirty four, passed away in the line of duty. Lee's
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  Speaker 1: behind wife turned widow Chosen and his two year old son,
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  Speaker 1: American hero Demitrius Johnson.
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  Speaker 2: Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend,