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- 0:01Speaker 1: Man, it's time for Donkey of the Day. He's a
- 0:03Speaker 1: bunch of donkeys out here the street, Donkey to day
- 0:06Speaker 1: called Donkey of the Day.
- 0:08Speaker 2: It really caught me off guard.
- 0:09Speaker 3: You live a life where we might are telling based
- 0:11Speaker 3: off who we made a thing. You never was say anything.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Too. You are a donkey.
- 0:18Speaker 3: That is why Charlamagne some donkey to day's just saw
- 0:23Speaker 3: himself on the breakfast club.
- 0:24Speaker 1: Okay, Charlamagne, we can give a Donkey of the day
- 0:26Speaker 1: too today. You know what, Taylor, you check your next check.
- 0:29Speaker 1: You getting a bony. I know that's right. Drop on
- 0:31Speaker 1: the clue.
- 0:33Speaker 3: Tail out here, working man, he's doing all these great intros.
- 0:36Speaker 3: Donkey today for Tuesday, June and second goes to Rick Child.
- 0:39Speaker 3: He is a sixty one year old convenience store owner
- 0:42Speaker 3: in Columbia, South Carolina, and yesterday he was found not
- 0:44Speaker 3: guilty of the twenty twenty three shooting of a fourteen
- 0:47Speaker 3: year old named Cyrus Belton, sending healing energy to the
- 0:50Speaker 3: family of Cyrus Belton, RF to that young brother fourteen
- 0:54Speaker 3: years old shot and killed by Rick Child. The prosecution
- 0:57Speaker 3: and defense, of course, had different stories. Prosecutor said Child
- 1:00Speaker 3: acted in anger because he wrongly thought the teen had
- 1:02Speaker 3: stolen four bottles of water from the store. A defense
- 1:05Speaker 3: lawyer said child fire to defend his only son after
- 1:08Speaker 3: the teen pointed the gun at him.
- 1:10Speaker 1: Let's go to wis ten for the report.
- 1:11Speaker 4: Police, Well, emotions are high and the verdict was not
- 1:15Speaker 4: just a shock for the family of Cyrus Carmack Golton,
- 1:18Speaker 4: but also people that have been following this case from
- 1:21Speaker 4: the very beginning.
- 1:22Speaker 5: A child, a fourteen year old child shot dead in
- 1:24Speaker 5: Richland County, got no justice.
- 1:26Speaker 4: Cyrus's dad too distraught to speak, but stood beside his attorney,
- 1:31Speaker 4: Todd Rutherford, who says the system has failed this family.
- 1:35Speaker 1: The anger is palpable tonight.
- 1:37Speaker 4: You can feel it, you can touch it. He's fifty seven.
- 1:40Speaker 2: Is still your verdict?
- 1:42Speaker 4: Earlier, the state argued that the case was about the
- 1:45Speaker 4: value of human life and that Cyrus feared for his
- 1:49Speaker 4: life as Rick Chow and his son chased him out
- 1:52Speaker 4: of the store with a gun. Chile's defense team argued
- 1:56Speaker 4: Chow was defending himself and his son, as Carmack bo
- 2:00Speaker 4: also had a loaded gun on him. Child's son testified
- 2:04Speaker 4: that he pointed the gun at him, prompting Chow to
- 2:07Speaker 4: shoot him. In the end, the jury sided with the defense.
- 2:11Speaker 4: Rutherford says, while people have the right to be angry
- 2:13Speaker 4: about the verdict, he's encouraging everyone to use their voices
- 2:17Speaker 4: rather than reacting any other way.
- 2:20Speaker 1: What I can tell you is that this should not
- 2:21Speaker 1: have happened.
- 2:22Speaker 5: There's an unbelievable situation, but it is one that unfortunately,
- 2:25Speaker 5: we have to deal with as best we can.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Ooh, now I get it.
- 2:29Speaker 3: The fourteen year old had a loaded firearm in South Carolina.
- 2:31Speaker 3: I believe you have to be twenty one to purchase
- 2:33Speaker 3: a handgun. If you're eighteen to twenty, state law says
- 2:36Speaker 3: you can legally acquire and possess handguns through private sales
- 2:40Speaker 3: or as a gift from your immediate family. I also
- 2:43Speaker 3: know that the jury found rich child not guilty, and in America,
- 2:46Speaker 3: that's how the legal system works. Well, Donkey of the
- 2:48Speaker 3: Day is an illegal award. Okay, it's a common sense award.
- 2:51Speaker 3: And common sense tells me, okay, Charlamagne to God the
- 2:55Speaker 3: nod m kelvy that if you're chasing a fourteen year
- 2:57Speaker 3: old child, okay, if prosecutor said child, haste the team
- 3:01Speaker 3: more than one hundred and thirty yards from the store.
- 3:04Speaker 1: I don't see how that self defense.
- 3:05Speaker 3: Okay, How are you protecting your son if you're the
- 3:08Speaker 3: one in pursuit.
- 3:09Speaker 1: Okay.
- 3:10Speaker 3: According to prosecutor, Cyrus never stole the water, put the
- 3:13Speaker 3: bottles back, ran from the store, and was eventually shot
- 3:15Speaker 3: in the back after a chase.
- 3:17Speaker 1: I just heard the news report defense.
- 3:18Speaker 3: I'll get that child was protecting his son because the
- 3:20Speaker 3: teen had a gun and pointed it at him. Hey,
- 3:23Speaker 3: if that happened and you would have pulled your gun
- 3:25Speaker 3: out and defended your son in that scenario, then I
- 3:27Speaker 3: would completely understand. But here's the thing. I don't see
- 3:31Speaker 3: no proof that that happened.
- 3:32Speaker 1: Okay.
- 3:32Speaker 3: And if that young man did that and ran away,
- 3:35Speaker 3: why would you run after him?
- 3:36Speaker 1: Okay. See that's the problem. Too many people want to play.
- 3:39Speaker 3: Police officer, judge, jury, and in this case, executioner.
- 3:43Speaker 1: Okay. If you think someone shoplifted, call the cops. Okay.
- 3:47Speaker 3: If you say this young man pulled a gun on
- 3:48Speaker 3: you and threatened the life for your son, but then
- 3:50Speaker 3: ran away.
- 3:51Speaker 1: Call the cops. Okay.
- 3:53Speaker 3: Every situation does not require escalation, and this was clearly
- 3:56Speaker 3: one of those situations.
- 3:57Speaker 1: Okay. Why I turn a minor dispute into a herman.
- 4:00Speaker 3: It consequence, nobody should lose their life over something that
- 4:03Speaker 3: could have been handled with a phone called a nine
- 4:05Speaker 3: one one. All Right, being angry doesn't give you the
- 4:08Speaker 3: right to be deputized.
- 4:10Speaker 1: Okay, you are not the law Rick Child, all right. Hell,
- 4:13Speaker 1: it wouldn't be just about it. They did it either,
- 4:14Speaker 1: all right.
- 4:15Speaker 3: Just because you think somebody did something wrong doesn't give
- 4:17Speaker 3: you the authority that chased.
- 4:19Speaker 1: Them down and killed them. Okay.
- 4:21Speaker 3: And now, multiple witnesses testified that they didn't see anything
- 4:25Speaker 3: in Cyrus Belton's hands and didn't see him point a
- 4:28Speaker 3: gun as he ran from the store. Prosecutors acknowledged the
- 4:32Speaker 3: young man Cyrus Belton had a semi automatic pistol, but
- 4:34Speaker 3: they say it fell on the ground during the chase
- 4:36Speaker 3: and he never threatened anyone with it. I know people
- 4:38Speaker 3: are going to keep talking about the fact this young
- 4:40Speaker 3: man had a pistol but he got chased down and
- 4:42Speaker 3: shot in the back.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Okay. I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not gonna sit
- 4:45Speaker 1: here and.
- 4:45Speaker 3: Act like I know why legally this man Rick Child
- 4:48Speaker 3: got off because to me, honestly, all I see is
- 4:50Speaker 3: a young black man getting shot and killed over a
- 4:53Speaker 3: situation that shouldn't have escalate it to this.
- 4:55Speaker 1: Okay.
- 4:55Speaker 3: Sometimes the best thing you can do is let law
- 4:58Speaker 3: enforcement handle it after the fact. Now, I'm a South
- 5:01Speaker 3: Carolina native born and raised that is home, but New
- 5:04Speaker 3: Jersey is my home too, and in New Jersey, Okay,
- 5:07Speaker 3: me and they me discussed this a lot for some reason.
- 5:08Speaker 1: I don't know why.
- 5:09Speaker 3: We've discussed this a lot over our lives since we've
- 5:11Speaker 3: known each other. But you generally cannot use deadly force
- 5:15Speaker 3: like shooting a gun against someone who is fleeing, retreating,
- 5:19Speaker 3: or running away.
- 5:20Speaker 1: Okay.
- 5:20Speaker 3: The law requires that you only use deadly force if
- 5:24Speaker 3: you reasonably believe it is immediately necessary to prevent death
- 5:28Speaker 3: our serious bodily harm. If an attacker is retreating, the
- 5:32Speaker 3: imminent threat is passed, making the use of deadly force unjustifiable.
- 5:36Speaker 1: That's New Jersey, okay.
- 5:37Speaker 3: And under New Jersey's castle doctrine, you do not have
- 5:40Speaker 3: a duty to retreat if you are inside your home,
- 5:43Speaker 3: provided you did not initiate the conflict. However, you still
- 5:46Speaker 3: cannot use deadly force against the intruder, burglar, whatever it is,
- 5:51Speaker 3: if they are turning to flee, are clearly retreating. That's
- 5:56Speaker 3: that's the debate being you've had over the years, because
- 5:58Speaker 3: I'll be like, bop that.
- 6:00Speaker 1: Okay, I pop that person, whoever it is. But you
- 6:02Speaker 1: legally can't do that.
- 6:03Speaker 6: If he's running, you can, If he's leaving, you can.
- 6:05Speaker 6: If it's back towards you, you can't.
- 6:07Speaker 1: Listen.
- 6:07Speaker 3: That sounds perfectly rational to me, Okay, I don't know legally. Okay,
- 6:11Speaker 3: sounds legally. That sounds perfectly legal. Now, No, it sounds
- 6:14Speaker 3: rational too if somebody's running away from you, if they're retreating.
- 6:19Speaker 1: But I get it.
- 6:20Speaker 2: You come to somebody's house, you know they there. What
- 6:24Speaker 2: are you coming there for?
- 6:25Speaker 1: Knowing them? Now? I get it. The house is different, though.
- 6:29Speaker 3: I just don't know how you justified chasing someone down
- 6:32Speaker 3: and shooting them in the back of this young man
- 6:34Speaker 3: had shot your son and you were so full of
- 6:36Speaker 3: raised you went after him. I can understand, but I
- 6:38Speaker 3: can't wrap my mind around this one.
- 6:41Speaker 1: Okay.
- 6:41Speaker 3: If somebody can run away from you, then they aren't
- 6:43Speaker 3: an immediate threat to you. Okay, let them go. Water
- 6:47Speaker 3: bottles can be replaced. Human lives cannot. Please give rich
- 6:52Speaker 3: Yild the biggest he hull.
- 6:57Speaker 2: That sound not guilty.
- 7:00Speaker 6: Wow, horrible, And I don't understand it because looking at
- 7:03Speaker 6: the case, it says all the witnesses testified that they
- 7:06Speaker 6: didn't see anything in that young man's hand. Yeah, they
- 7:09Speaker 6: didn't see him point of gun, money, ran from the store.
- 7:12Speaker 6: They didn't see any of that.
- 7:13Speaker 5: I mean, well, he got shot in his back, so
- 7:15Speaker 5: I mean obviously he wasn't he was running away.
- 7:18Speaker 1: And house is different from a convenience store. Yes, you
- 7:20Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
- 7:22Speaker 3: Your convenience store, even if you own it, yo, you
- 7:24Speaker 3: can replace whatever.
- 7:26Speaker 1: You know. You said this guy water took.
- 7:27Speaker 5: And then there was four bottles of water. Even if
- 7:29Speaker 5: he did take four bottles of water, but.
- 7:31Speaker 1: He put it back. He didn't.
- 7:32Speaker 2: They said he didn't take any.
- 7:33Speaker 1: Bottles of water.
- 7:34Speaker 5: But I'm just I'm just saying, even if he did,
- 7:36Speaker 5: you shoot him in the back because he took four
- 7:38Speaker 5: bottles of water.
- 7:39Speaker 1: That's just that's wow. And if you were scared of
- 7:40Speaker 1: the young man, why would you go running after him?
- 7:44Speaker 1: He was running from you.
- 7:45Speaker 6: I don't know, all right, all right, that you absolutely well,
- 7:51Speaker 6: thank you for that. Donkey of the day.
- 7:53Speaker 2: Now. Jess was reading something that she's seen online yesterday.
- 7:56Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so uh they said, we
- 7:59Speaker 5: got audio four or but a woman called off a
- 8:01Speaker 5: wedding where she found her fiance slept with several men
- 8:04Speaker 5: when he was in college. He ended up telling the
- 8:06Speaker 5: truth about it. He ended up telling the but like
- 8:10Speaker 5: why would you, yo, please stop? Why would you wait.
- 8:14Speaker 1: This long to tell her that?
- 8:16Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Well, that's why I said,
- 8:18Speaker 2: I went to my grave with it.
- 8:19Speaker 5: But the only reason that would make me tell her
- 8:22Speaker 5: is if yeah, but but if some of the people
- 8:25Speaker 5: that I slept with was gonna tell her, and maybe
- 8:28Speaker 5: he tried to get ahead of it.
- 8:30Speaker 2: That's the only way that it would come out.
- 8:31Speaker 5: But like, yo, why like like, why would you tell
- 8:34Speaker 5: her at the proposed to her?
- 8:36Speaker 2: That's something that you get out the way. That's so
- 8:38Speaker 2: he was gay in college, but not gay anymore.
- 8:40Speaker 5: He may have been buying college, but yeah, gay, bye college.
- 8:44Speaker 1: You sleep with several men? Ain't no bye bye bye nothing.
- 8:49Speaker 5: Yeah, but this was during it, you know he had
- 8:51Speaker 5: you know, he had a phase, you know what I'm saying,
- 8:53Speaker 5: a gay era in college.
- 8:55Speaker 2: But you know the crazy thing is if.
- 8:56Speaker 6: It was a man and you found out your woman
- 8:59Speaker 6: had a phase. Women in college.
- 9:01Speaker 2: Most I think most.
- 9:02Speaker 3: Dudes because as a whole, okay, you sleep with several men,
- 9:05Speaker 3: you sleep with several men, male off female, Yeah, okay,
- 9:08Speaker 3: I just need to know who's doing to bend it.
- 9:13Speaker 6: Why she called it off, because that's probably a question
- 9:15Speaker 6: that he didn't answer one O five one.
- 9:17Speaker 1: So what's the question?
- 9:18Speaker 2: What's the reason you have to call off an engagement?
- 9:20Speaker 1: What with me? I never had to engagement? What do
- 9:24Speaker 1: you care about? Who is doing?
- 9:27Speaker 5: That is not the point because it also depends on
- 9:29Speaker 5: how gay he was, you know what I mean? Like,
- 9:31Speaker 5: it's not if you are doing would you rather be
- 9:35Speaker 5: the one taking it?
- 9:36Speaker 4: No?
- 9:36Speaker 1: I think it's just a lot of women. I think.
- 9:38Speaker 3: I think in this era it's a lot more women
- 9:40Speaker 3: who have been in these situations, a lot more finding
- 9:42Speaker 3: out that these men are playing on the other shi.
- 9:46Speaker 5: You know, I'm just glad that he did tell her.
- 9:48Speaker 6: Let's if you heard if this situation, situation, this situation
- 9:53Speaker 6: happened to you, what would you do or if you've
- 9:55Speaker 6: been in this situation, let's discuss eight five eight.
- 9:58Speaker 1: Five one oh five one.
- 9:59Speaker 6: In Charlemagne, I swear on everything I will fight you
- 10:03Speaker 6: if you come back to work with your heel sticking
- 10:06Speaker 6: out of your socks like it's offensive on Netflix.
- 10:09Speaker 1: And now like you come on to me, like why
- 10:12Speaker 1: do you have, like.
- 10:12Speaker 2: You a whole hole in your sock. I can see
- 10:15Speaker 2: the bottom of your damn hill. And that was the
- 10:17Speaker 2: same sock he had on last week. He does not
- 10:19Speaker 2: have socks, y'all.
- 10:20Speaker 6: I'm gonna buy some cash.
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