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104: Sister Wives - Elephant in the Room (S18E13) · Reality TV Cringe

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you guys for being understanding you. Welcome to reality TV. I am one
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of your hosts, Delia here with my real tight Homegirl and also my daughter
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in law Beatrice me every mind. How are you doing today? No,
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I'm here, girl. We are here to discuss the current state of affairs
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for sister Wives Season eighteen, honey, and they just dropped another boring,
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ass ridiculous episode. And at this point I've gone limp. I mean,
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I've watched it twice and I'm zoning out each and every time I'm watching it.
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It's like it's the same footage we've been seeing for like three weeks now.
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As soon as I saw Mary and the carriage House, I'm like,
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how tea minus how many minutes until she mentions her anniversary dinner and the conversation
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and her eternal bond. We've already talked about this. It apparently not these
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producers. I'm like, I can't get over it. I know I talk
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about it every week, but I am just gobsmacked yet that they are doing
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this episode after episode after episode. Do we need to start a raccoon writing
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campaign? Do we need to protest in the streets something? You know they
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live? I think the producer, like the main producer for Sister Wives,
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lives very close to Cody Brown, like in the same Flagstop subdivision. I
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read that somewhere on Reddit, So take it with a great assault. But
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interesting. I wonder if he's friends with Cody Brown, you might be maybe
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that's why they were doing him a service for so many years with some of
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these edits, but now this year, Yeah, they're finally getting the edit
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they deserved. Robin. Yes, yes, well we watched it. We
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the episode, we do have some hot goss, some mild hot goss.
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But I mean, if it is true, it is very hot glass.
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And so even though it might not be true, I still feel we need
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to present it to the raccoons. Yeah, you guys can decide for yourselves,
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Y's true or not. So last week there was a post by user
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Lauren Leliko and the title of this post was Mary's new bow question mark.
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And then she posted a picture and I'm going to put it right here for
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all you raccoons who were watching. She posted a picture and she texted found
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this on Facebook. Apparently they were also holding hands, although she doesn't look
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that into him in my opinion. Oh m G. And so for the
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listeners of this podcast, what we are showing is a picture of Mary Brown
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out to lunch and or dinner with some unknown Caucasian man looking like farmers only
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up in here and we're wondering if maybe she's seeing somebody. I mean,
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all I hope for is that he writes a Harley I know, just because
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you want to be in accurate fakes you want to I just want her to
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be happy. Me too. And he seems like a normal guy who doesn't
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like perm his hair and wear a head band every day and a fucking stallion
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ring and a fake or cheap rolex off whatever sports car it's two thousand and
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two white lexes. Because he's so attached to his appearance, which is ridiculous,
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so ridiculous. It's like a normal person. Yeah, he does.
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And I love that for Mary. Could it just be a friend, though
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you think, yes, why would you be holding his hands? Though that's
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true, why would you be holding I don't know. You gotta just told
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dance with guys that you like that your sweet dog be a Mary worthy of
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pa. Get yourself an adventurous sexual avenger. Let's yourself go, get your
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box eight. Look for a new eternal bond. Is somebody who's sexy and
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he wants to be with you? That's very important. Yes, So let
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us know what you think. Do you think Mary Hanley a new man that
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would be so wonderful. I mean, I want that for her so bad.
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And Janelle, yes, yes, please, All right, let's get
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into this episode. So he's in eighteen, episode thirteen of Silster Wives entitled
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the Elephant in the Room. What does that pertain to? Maybe the financial
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stuff with Janelle? Okay? Maybe I was like, are you calling me
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fat? DLC? I forget other people fat on the show, Like you
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know, now, before we actually do the rundown of what happened, what
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are some of your major takeaways just overall from this episode? There's got to
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be at least one. Look, I don't care. I don't give a
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shit about Mchelt's Yeah twins, I don't care. They're already born. They're
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like two years old right now, walking around probably driving, Yeah, going
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to high school. I really don't care about their gender. Reveal about you
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being pregnant, your announcement to pregnancy. I'll give the fuck. If we
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have to see her birth next season, I'm gonna lose it. We're gonna
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have to see it. I don't want to see, you know. Robin
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goes to the birth of the twins, she's actually there. She ultimately takes
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the picture with the two twins sitting there like a mom. Right, she
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kind of looks like the mother in the picture, and Christine is there,
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and so that's probably a somewhat tense or dramaicious moment. I think we're going
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to see the birth of McKelty next year. I just need McKelty to get
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off of my television. I'm not trying to be mean. She seems like
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a sweet person, not very bright, not very bright, but she seems
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like she's actually no, she doesn't know. I feel like she's actually a
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mean person. And you posted something on her Instagram did recently was like a
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montage of the ways in which Christine has been hurt by Cody. Yeah,
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and then the ways that McKelty has hurt Christine in much the same way.
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And I was like, ooh, yeah, I felt that. I know
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I felt it too. And it's pretty obvious when you look at it,
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because this was in the context of what last week's episode of the Week Before,
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where McKelty spilled that she already told Cody and Robin that she was pregnant
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before she even told her mom, and Christine didn't know that, like Christine
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already knew she was pregnant at this point in time, but didn't know that
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she was second to know even though it's mckelti's own freaking mother and Christine's just
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been hurt by Cody all the time. And then mckelt somebody commented, I
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can't remember if it was on YouTube or Instagram, and they called her me
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kelty because it's always about me. That is perfect. Yes, Chef's kissy.
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She's like a narcissist totally. I had two main takeaways. My first
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was also mckelti and like how she just needs to position herself at all times
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as a main character, and also how she seems very invested in this idea
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of being a bridge and bringing the family together except for Mary, Except for
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Mary and read it is really kind of going crazy about because McKelty talks a
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big game, like, Mom, we should ask Robin and Dad and the
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family over for your last night before you leave flag Staff, Like McKelty is
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orchestra reading this zoom where everyone's hopping on because she believes that as a family
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they can come back together. But then she doesn't include one of her mothers.
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Yeah, because she'll never include her. That's what Christine said in this
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episode and I'm like, Okay, so they've obviously talked about it. Yikes,
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and Leon wasn't there either, And I'm wondering, is Leon not there
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because Leon is showing loyalty to their mother? I would kind of hope,
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So yeah, I would like, you're not going to invite my mom helped
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to raise you good, bad, or indifferent, So I'm just not going
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to show up. Well, I'm like, why is Michelty so against Mary?
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Again? Was it because of alleged abuse? H was it other stuff?
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It's alleged abuse, but honestly, it was Gwendolynn who alleged a physical
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component to the abuse. All mckelti ever said was she never remembered anything physical,
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but that Mary was definitely verbally and verbally abusive, And I think Peyden
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also said she was super abrasive and very hard to live with. So,
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I mean, Mary sounded like she was a hard ass and very strict and
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it was hard to live with her. But at the same time, when
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you look at what your own dad is doing in your family, and how
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your dad is verbally abusing his wives and how Robin is complicit, like she's
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a is it a compensating narcissist. She's some enabling narcissist, Like you see
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this right in front of you, like the rest of us do, and
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you're okay to have them in your life and even show them preferential treatment,
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but you won't give Mary a chance, right, And I mean in this
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context, with this whole zoom call, I'm like, she wouldn't even have
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to really say anything to you. It's just a pregnancy announcement or a gender
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reveal announcement. So it's like she's just one little square in the corner and
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you could have set a boundary and been like, look, I don't want
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you to say anything to me or anything, but I want you to be
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included with the rest of the family. But no, she couldn't even do
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that. No, it's just a drama thing. It's like she's the brig's
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power thing too. It's like, how can we estrange Mary even further?
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And it's getting really cruel to me. It's like every episode we see Mary
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pitifully out in peril in her dumb carriage house alone with her friends who are
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just like, Okay, they're a little weird, but this is the friend
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group that she has because she doesn't have any family, Janelle doesn't check in
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with her. We learn in this episode Janelle hasn't talked to her for a
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year. Christine doesn't give af nope about Mary, and I just feel bad
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for her me too. She's so isolated from everyone in the family. I
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just can't stand mchelt just needing to be the center of everything. So other
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main takeaway that I had was that I was watching the decomposition or the deconstruction
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of my appreciation for Janelle, because another thing that's popping off on Reddit right
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now is the timeline of when Janelle and how Janelle met Cody. Oh really
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yes, And I was also watched My Girl Red Lipstick reality TV. By
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the way, I mention her almost every week. If you don't follow her,
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you really need to. She gives very thoughtful sort of feedback intakes,
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which I really appreciate. But you know what she said in her recap of
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this episode, she called Cody a cheater from day one, and then she
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brought in what they're talking about on Reddit, which is that Janelle actually met
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Cody when Mary was introducing Cody to Janelle as her boyfriend. At that time,
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Janelle was married to Mary's brother. Oh Wow. So she was actually
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married when she met Cody, and so in this episode we kind of hear
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their origin story. We hear how they flirted, how he found himself often
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talking to her, how she said when she first met him, which is
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when she was married to Mary's brother. Yeah, she had a witnessing sort
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of feeling like, yes, this is somebody that I feel like I know
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and I want to be a part of their family. But she doesn't mention
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in this episode that she was actually married to Mary's brother at the time.
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And so Mary gets a lot of shit Beatrice for being a bitch. And
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in their book, which by the way, I just purchased and I'm about
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to read and I've never read it and I'm so excited. But in this
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book, Mary is kind of villified because she gave Janelle a really hard time.
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But like, maybe there's a reason that Janelle was given a hard time
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but by Mary, because she dumps Mary's brother, then flirts with Cody,
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invites herself into the marriage, and then moves into some whacked out trailer with
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the two of them with paper thin walls and starts fucking Cody's brains up.
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That's like what I think actually happened, and Janelle's sitting on the couch like,
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yes, my spiritual witnessing testimony was that this man was my eternal lover.
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I'm like, oh girl, oh, you were twenty years old.
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You wanted to get you box it. Yeah, and you poached another woman's
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man. Oh my god, that's why Mary don't like you with Mary too.
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So it's a friend coming in and be like, can I steal your
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husband sister in law? She was her sister and sister in law slash friend.
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Oh my god, I didn't know all about Yes, it's all on
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redded and you know, their forensic investigators are just like us. But when
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you couple that with the other things that we've seen this season, for example,
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just how her children are so emotionally traumatized, particularly Gabe and Garrison,
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how they've been left out in the cold, and how she's known for a
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really long time that Cody has been a neglectful husband. Yeah, but as
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long as it was okay with her because it facilitated her independence and because she
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didn't need him around, it was okay that Cody neglected her children. It
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was only when they had the fight. It was only in the last year
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or so that it started to inconvenience her, and she's like, yeah,
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this is not acceptable anymore. Why wasn't it not acceptable when he was neglecting
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your family? Ki, Right, it just wasn't acceptable unless it bothered her,
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I guess. And I mean even that, like when they were in
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the big Lehigh House, when she was working all the time, she would
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always talk about She's like, oh, it's so great to have sister wives
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because they can just like raise my kids for me. Right, So it's
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like, you have all these kids, but then you're working and you would
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rather not be at home. But granted she was bringing in money, she
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was friendly money. There wasn't a lot coming in, but that was important.
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But yeah, Christine's raising all your kids. Logan was parentified to the
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max and had to raise all of these kids too. So it's like,
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yeap, so is asmen. Yeah, Janelle's not perfect. None of these
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people are perfect. Well, I just I'm like, she's really not perfect
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though, And actually in this season I've come to like the I think the
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shine is off Christine again. I feel like she's so performative, especially in
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this episode when she's talking about Isabelle going back to North Carolina. She's like,
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yeah, I'm just sick comtown. Yeah, drama queen, Yes,
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it's too much anyway. Those are my main takeaways. I hate mckelte and
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Janelle, you're a shady bitch. And I see you with my rat,
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I see you all right. Getting into this episode, we start with mckelty's
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gender reveal on Zoom. She has invited a select few which does not include
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Mary and potentially Leon, to reveal the genders of her two twins. What
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do you think about this scene? Well, I thought it was interesting that
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codyum Robin could get together on a big old group Zoom call for this little
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gender reveal party, but they couldn't do that for the sibling gift exchange,
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and couldn't even get together for Christmas, not even over Zoom, can't even
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call his other kids, Like he hasn't even spoken to half of the people
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on this Zoom call, like Janelle says, And yet he's shown up on
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there just acting all happy, go lucky whatever. And he's like, it's
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fine because mickelty and Tony love and respect me and Robin, so it's tolerable,
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right, God, this is your family, dude. Yes, And
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I think it's very telling that he says that he had anxiety bordering on paranoia
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before he hopped on that zoom call. So he's super nervous, and he's
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only nervous because he knows he's wrong and he's done something wrong. And he's
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trying to frame it in this episode as talking about the contempt his kids have
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for him versus they're very understandable and justifiable reactions to the shit that you've done
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to them. Right. If there's contempt, there's also a reason for that,
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of course, and you could figure out that reason if you know,
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you talk to them and tried to work this out. I also thought it
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was telling how Robin in her talking head said, you know, I just
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want everybody to see our smiling faces, so that way they know that I'm
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not the bad guy, right, Like, oh, that's telling girls,
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as opposed to we're not bad ones. I just don't. I want it
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to look like we're happy, so that way everybody takes the heat off of
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me. Totally notice that, like, oh, girl, narcissistic statement.
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And then of course we have Aurora and Brianna on the couch and Aurora wants
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to take the time to let us all know, in as morose a tone
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as possible, I feel so sad for these depressive Brainwatch children. She wants
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us to know that Robin actually goes out of her way to encourage Cody to
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have healthy relationships, in communication with his children, whatever. People need to
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understand that. I'm like, Aurora, do you really believe this? I
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think she does. Does she not watch the show? She must not watch
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the show. A lot of the kids don't. It's like Gwendolyn doing her
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reaction. She's like, I've never watched the show, Like, how how
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have you not? I would be watching every episode, but I'm crazy.
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I would watch. Yes, I watch our YouTube videos. I watch Well
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you have to do to see if there's any problems and also to see if
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what people are saying think about the raccoons. But like, no, like,
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I feel like she absolutely doesn't see the real picture of what her mom
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is doing real time to destroy this family. It's so easy. You can
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just see it in her energy. Yeah, and Brianna's energy too. They
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are acting depressed. I don't know if Brianna's depressed. She really wants us
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to think she's sad, yeah, and that she's depressed but they're really depressed.
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They're really maudlin, and they're acting really sad. And my question is,
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well, if you're so sad because you don't see your siblings, why
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aren't you on the zoom call? Right? Don't you like Mchelti? Yeah,
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doesn't Chelti come over and bring her kids? And don't you love her?
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Why wouldn't you be there? Right? She probably already knew. Probably
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Robin and Cody probably already knew the gender too. Yeah, and they probably
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told everybody h came on the zoom call just for optics. Yep, narks,
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yep, huge narks, narsty narks, narsty narks. We have Janelle
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making the comment that she has absolutely no problem seeing Robin and Cody there because,
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after all, they're together. Yeah, they're married, they're monogamoists,
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they're a couple, and I don't have a problem. I hope someday we
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can all get together in person and do something like this. It will never
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happen. And then Christine's like, not right now though too soon. Yeah,
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I'm not in the mood to do that, but I'm okay to be
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cordial in this kind of a setting. Yeah, And I did appreciate that.
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I'm glad that she was, like at least on the call. Did
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you notice she was on the call with mickelse those, Yes, it's good.
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I'm just wondering though. Christine seems really activated still by her separation and
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divorce from Cody, but like Janelle seems over it. She's like, oh,
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yeah, I'm totally fine. They're married. I get it. I
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want to do my own thing. I actually don't care, and I believe
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her, you think. So, I was wondering this episode if she was
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like a little sad deep down about it, because there were some things that
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she was saying, like near the end with regards to the finances, which
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we'll get to at that point, but like it just kind of seemed to
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me like she was a little emotional but just kind of hiding it. You
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know how you Torreans can be. Yes, sometimes you guys compartmentalize everything.
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I'll never let you see me sweat, baby, right, So that's what
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I'm thinking, Like, I was just watching this episode thinking, like it's
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okay to be sad, you know, like it's okay to admit that it
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does bother you. I just don't think she feels sad at all. I
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think she's feeling like she's actually divorced. The only conflict she has is a
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spiritual one, like do I need to go to the governing Mormon body of
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whatever religion she feels that she's in to get some sort of an official divorce
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or is she okay to just walk away because legally she's not married to him.
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Yeah, that's her conflict. I don't really think it's Cody. I
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think she's done and over Cody. I mean, I guess I get that
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with the spiritual component. I was actually talking to Ethyl about this last week,
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that that's like a huge thing in the Mormon Church, Like if you're
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married in the Mormon Temple, in LDS faith or whatever, AUB what then
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you're married spiritually eternally and then you have to ask the priest and the priest
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can deny you reason for divorce, which I thought was really crazy. But
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she didn't know what happens with the AUB because I guess in the LDS church
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they don't really talk about what happens to you if you break an eternal covenant
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or if you get released. I think is what she said. Yeah,
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I think that's what you now called it yeah being released. If Janelle will
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ever go to the aub Temple, I mean if like Cody doesn't really believe
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it anymore than why, I don't know that she does. And when they're
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taking the road trip, she's like, I haven't been to church in forever.
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I don't know any of us adults that have been to a church,
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including I would imagine Cody and Robin, right, So I don't really know.
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Then we bop on over tip Heroluan Utah, because of course we have
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Mary's the BnB. She's working on her carriage out again, and I can't
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stand to talk about it, and so she walks in. The walls are
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being torn down, they're doing all of their construction work. Nobody, kidle.
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And here she uses this as a segue to talk about the conversation she
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previously had with Cody on their anniversary thirty second anniversary anniversary, we heard about
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it, in which he said he did not want to be a part of
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her life in any way. And so she reiterates for the umpteenth time that
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it is now up to her, The onus is on her to make a
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decision with what she wants to do with her life. And here again we
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are talking. I think about the spiritual implication because she continues to mention the
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eternal bond, which is the bond that they will have after death, and
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that they have a covenant. And then she says in her talking head,
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well, but maybe he's already broken that covenant. Yeah, And I'm like,
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there's no maybe he's broken the covenant. She has literally broken it in
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front of you, shattered it. He does not want you on his Mormon
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planet. He doesn't even care about what you're doing in your life, if
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you're alive or dead. He doesn't care whether you're alive or dead. It's
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sad, Mary. It is up to you, though, whether you're going
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to be able to emotionally move on. And she's pretending in this particular talking
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head that she hasn't made the decision, but we know in the preview for
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next week she comes to her decision and she dumps those losers. If we
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actually get to see that scene next week, I think we do. I
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feel like they're showing Robin in the actual preview crying on her bench about wanting
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to be on her porch with We've seen that preview a million times though,
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Like they've literally been showing it this whole season. Not the Robin crying,
24:10
but we've seen the picnic table of them talking. I think we're going to
24:14
see it next week. And I also I also think it's going to be
24:15
the season finale and they just beat to let us know. I think that
24:19
we're going to go right to a season finale next week, and then for
24:23
the preview for the next episode, it's going to be some lay mass,
24:26
dumb ass hoe ass tail nothing. There better be a tell nothing. There's
24:32
going to be something. I don't know. I feel like, in my
24:34
bubble guts, there's not going to be a tell all. That's what I
24:37
was worrying. I feel like there's not going to be a reunion. They're
24:40
just gonna stop and come back at some time undetermined in the future. That's
24:45
what I was worrying about earlier in the season, with all these talking heads
24:47
of them responding to each other. I'm like, oh God, please don't
24:49
do this in place of a tell all. I swear, I swear well,
24:55
get ready, honey, TLC is fitting to disappoint you and that's a
24:59
fact. Yeah, And the next scene, we have a party happening at
25:03
Mitchen aspens again, nobody cares well. I mean, I guess it's a
25:07
good vehicle for us to learn more about how Christine is thinking about dating.
25:14
And Isabelle is about to return to North Carolina. They're having lobster surf and
25:18
turf, which is a nice moment for the family. I guess Christine's really
25:23
happy to have this time with her family, and Isabelle is also really appreciative
25:27
of that because I guess there's not enough family in North Carolinas. Caleb and
25:33
Maddie, Yeah, I mean that's fair. I would want to move back
25:36
to where everybody else is in the country right personally, So, what did
25:40
you think about this scene? I mean, I don't remember how the whole
25:45
topic of Christine dating Tony brought it up, but like it seemed like that
25:48
was totally produced and Christina and her talking, I was like, I don't
25:52
think it's appropriate to talk about it as she's talking about it. I really
25:55
want to, I really want it. It's like, oh my god,
25:57
yeah, calm down. Do you think she's dating David Wooley at this moment?
26:02
It kind of feels like it. I was wondering, maybe it kind
26:06
of feels like it maybe or she's right on the verge of doing it.
26:08
And I'm wondering what happened to the matchmaker, because now they're talking about dating
26:12
apps and things of that nature, and so I'm like, well, what
26:15
happened to that lady? Well, maybe it didn't work out because those matchmakers
26:19
stuck it most of the time. Anyway, how do you know that from
26:22
Love Without Border? What's the other one match me abroad? Have you watched
26:27
that? No? It's kind of a drain wreck. Really, so none
26:30
of those matches work out? No? No? Really? Oh my god?
26:33
Yeah, Okay, So she's not wanting anything casual. She doesn't want
26:38
to just and move on. She wants the real relationship, and she's willing
26:44
to wait to get it, but not that long. No, she really
26:47
wants to find somebody. I think she's just an endless romantic. I wonder
26:51
if she's seen Pride and Prejudice, which we watched the other day together.
26:55
I have been asking sidebar Okay, I have been asking my daughter in law
27:00
here because we both love a rom com. Yes, and I have just
27:06
loved two thousand and five Pride and Prejudice with Kira Knightley and Matthew McFadden mcfaden,
27:11
however you say his last name. I also own I think the nineteen
27:15
ninety six series with Colin Firth and whatever the other chick's name was. But
27:21
I love Jane Austen so much, and so I've been asking her to please
27:25
come over with your mother in law. Let's watch Pride and Prejudice. I
27:29
really think you'll like it. So just the stars aligned. You happened to
27:33
be off work, you came over, We sat down and watched it.
27:37
And when I tell you, this girl has since become obset the Instagram reels
27:42
I receive of like every scene from Pride and Prejudice because you're just watching them.
27:48
I'm just like watching, analyzing all of itssday and oh my god,
27:52
so good. We got to watch it again because you watch it like every
27:56
once every other month. Yeah, I do. And I also I own
27:59
it and I own Sense and Sensibility and I own Emma. We got to
28:03
watch that. And I don't own Persuasion because I don't know if I should
28:06
buy it. It's from nineteen ninety six, is it to dated? But
28:07
I'm going to buy it to do it. But I just love it.
28:11
Yeah, it's really good. The chemistry. Girl, that's what Christine wants.
28:15
That's exactly whatever scene. I'm sure that one scene when they're outside under
28:21
that I don't know, it's rain some dome. Yeah, it's raining,
28:25
and he asks her to marry him, and she like wants to come in
28:27
for the kids. I'm getting activated right now. First, please, girls,
28:33
look at my husband. I'm like, come on, a little bit,
28:36
just a little bit of romance. It's stomping around in this cowboy.
28:40
A little bit of pride and prejudice would be great. But yes, that's
28:44
what Christine wants. Is she smart enough to like understand, I'm sorry that
28:48
is so terrible. I'm sure she's intelligent enough. Yes, enough. So
28:53
it's heartening to know that ultimately she does find soulmate love. Yeah, David
28:59
Willie and he got matching taped. Oh. After this, Christine meets up
29:07
with Janelle to go on a road trip. She wants to take Janelle to
29:11
Burley, Idaho, and they're going to ride around on ATVs and they're just
29:15
gonna have some fun. Yeah. And this is kind of an interesting conversation
29:18
in the car because Janelle's talking about how she doesn't feel like she's really even
29:23
married to Cody anymore. She does not want to reconcile at all. She's
29:27
totally done. They don't have a marriage. She hasn't seen Mary in a
29:32
year. She doesn't care about Robin and Cody, but that her and Christine
29:36
are always going to be real tight home girls because they raise their kids together,
29:38
and that's the true definition of sister Rives. It's pretty interesting. And
29:42
doesn't she bring up the finances at this point too? I can't remember if
29:45
it No, it's at it is at the ATV place. The conversation starts
29:51
with Christine saying that she wanted to ask Janelle about something that Robin had said,
29:56
which was how she could get like a formal dissolution of marriage right through
30:00
the church. And so there's a question from Christine as to whether Robin felt
30:07
like her just up and leaving Christine up and leaving somehow invalidated Robin's marriage.
30:12
And then she asked, Janelle, did my leaving so quickly invalidate your marriage?
30:18
And I'm like, what what? I didn't understand because Robin is the
30:22
legal wife. Yeah, there's nothing that's going to be invalidating that marriage,
30:26
right, And she knows it too. Yes, but maybe she's just trying
30:27
to play the whole like good Mormon playbook because was the last season she was
30:33
like, Oh, Christine's not really divorced unless she has sexual intercourse with another,
30:37
right, right. I'm like, that's not even in the Mormon playbook.
30:40
Yeah, just go ask your priest if you can get a divorce and
30:42
he'll grant it, yes or no, right from God or whatever. Right,
30:47
So maybe she's just playing the good Mormon, trying to act like she
30:51
actually cares about the religion that she so wanted to be a part of.
30:56
She wanted to be a part of polygamy so badly, even though she destroyed
31:00
everyone's marriages like her mother before her also did. I did find it interesting
31:06
when Christine said that there is no ecclesiastical authority that has the power to grant
31:12
her a divorce. She doesn't believe anymore. She asks Janelle at this point,
31:17
does any do any of you believe anymore? And Janelle's like, I
31:19
don't know. None of us really go to church, which means Mary doesn't
31:22
go to church, Robin and Cody aren't going to church. They don't even
31:26
have a church in Flagstaff. Yeah, I thought all of this was very
31:29
interesting. Well, I don't even know if they went to church. I
31:32
mean they didn't go to church in Vegas either, because they didn't have a
31:34
priest. So if they had home church, of course, Robin teaching about
31:40
purity, that's church, not diesel jeans and a diesel jeans breakdancing. We
31:45
bop on over then to Cody and Bryan. This scene was Cody and Brian
31:49
are king stupid. The second I saw this dudet his dumble, I'm just
32:00
like, stop, why do we have to have bro time? And Cody
32:04
just being like, it's really nice to be a real men who love and
32:07
respect you. It's like he's all about respect, yeah, obedience and loyalty.
32:12
He jerks off to that. Oh my gosh. Well, I think
32:14
that he doesn't want to film actual scenes with Robin for some reason. Like
32:20
the only scenes we see with them are going over to Mary's house to talk
32:23
about like holiday functions and or her moving. But like they never really show
32:29
us their life. He's much more like he much more easily shows us his
32:34
friendships with other weird bros. Right, like yes, Brian guy, And
32:37
I'm just wondering why, Like what's going on here? Why can't we see
32:40
you guys in your life and what you do and your children. Maybe he's
32:45
protecting her from protecting her from the negativity, maybe because he believes that she's
32:49
done nothing wrong, right, she's the damsel in distress. She just came
32:52
in with cap in hand just to be accepted by the family. So maybe
32:57
he's trying to protect her, and she doesn't want to be in the limelight
32:59
because are going to criticize her bad eyebrows, crybrows, and her fake tators.
33:06
Maybe I don't know, but like, I'm just over all of these
33:08
redundant scenes with Cody and his bros and his bromances acting like he's okay and
33:13
there's no problems going on in his life. Well, and he's talking about
33:16
how it is important to have relationships with your dudes because it helps you to
33:22
take the focus off of all of your troubles, and it's just really good
33:25
to know that there's somebody there to endure all of these problems with you.
33:30
I'm just like, God, your life sounds like it sucks, like the
33:34
way you talk about your life unless it's about Robin and what a sweet life
33:37
you're creating. Right, it sounds like it really sucks. Yeah, well,
33:42
because it does. I mean he has no family that loves him and
33:45
cares about it except for Robin's kids. Really, right, I mean to
33:49
go from this ginormous family where you did have this magic in Lehi to what
33:53
you have right now? I mean yeah, like you would be dumb to
33:57
deny that it doesn't feel deaf and doesn't suck. Oh my god, I
34:01
didn't complete my thought about Cody Brown being a cheater from day one. Oh
34:07
so again, I get this from Red Lipstick Reality TV. And when she
34:12
said it, I stopped. I paused, and I'm like, huh,
34:15
that tracks. So if Janelle was married to Mary's brother and Cody was dating
34:23
and or then married to Mary and he starts falling around a little bit and
34:29
flirting and who knows what else with Janelle so much so that she gets out
34:34
of the marriage with Mary's brother and then asks to join Mary's marriage, does
34:40
that mean he was cheating with Janelle while Janelle was married to somebody else.
34:45
And then we know with Robin he was making all those weekend trips up to
34:50
Wyoming or down to Arizona or wherever she lived. I can't say, George,
34:52
I don't know, but he's traveling four hours or five hours each way,
34:57
and there ain't no way he wasn't that girl. Yeah, which is
35:00
why Christine was so upset the entire time, heavy with child as her husband
35:05
is leaving for two three days a week. So he cheated with Robin allegedly,
35:10
and it sounds kind of like he cheated with Janelle, Like Cody Brown
35:15
is a cheater. Well like father like son, right, I mean his
35:19
dad did the same thing, married a new woman after being married to his
35:23
mom for But is that something he was doing. Was he moving in his
35:28
faith to do that. It's weird that it's Janelle's mom. Yeah, doubt,
35:32
That's what I'm saying. I like they probably framed it as this religious
35:37
thing. It's like when seeking sister wived. Do you remember that one douchebag
35:40
from Colorado he was dating some chick from like Brazil, Yes, with his
35:45
high school sweetheart. Like it's that kind of concept, like where he convinces
35:50
the wife like, no, this is a spiritual thing that we have to
35:52
do, like God is calling us to do it. It's really great,
35:55
but it's just an excuse for the man to get more punani. Yeah.
36:00
Gross, I think he was a cheater from day one. I agree,
36:04
And I think Janelle is kind of a bit of a cheater too, totally
36:07
if she's flirting with, potentially kissing on another woman's boyfriend or husband, and
36:14
or while she's married to some other dude. Well, Cody said that Janelle
36:16
only likes him because he's hot, he's got a six pack. Well,
36:21
okay, okay, So back to Cody and Brian, which I'm snoring,
36:24
I'm checking out. I'm also angry. I'm like, why are you making
36:28
me watch this? I feel like that's offensive. I don't care about that.
36:31
We're trying to put the Lexus into a trailer, and of course Cody
36:36
Brown didn't bother to measure. Of course, neither did Brian, who owns
36:37
like a car lot, so neither one measure to see if he's gonna fit.
36:42
So Cody's driving his dumb ass, ho ass broke ass car up into
36:45
the trailer and turns this it doesn't fit. No, so turn this into
36:50
some kind of an analogy about how he has conducted himself as a polygamist,
36:54
in other words, trying to shove a square and wear a square pircle to
37:01
a round hole, right, Yeah, trying to force something to fit,
37:06
as opposed to asking himself, but does it fit? So he's talking about
37:09
all of his other marriages, which is just again another excuse to avoid taking
37:14
accountability for your failures as a husband and a father, Cody Brown, Yes,
37:17
and trying to retrofit and memory hole the fact that you actually loved Mary,
37:24
and you loved Janelle, and I believe you loved Christine, and now
37:28
trying to pretend that you never really loved any of them. You were just
37:31
trying to make something work. When we all watched with our own raccoon eyes,
37:36
how you loved these women in the beginning. But as soon as Robin
37:39
entered the picture, that shit went away. Yes, it did. And
37:43
he also talks about his happy memories with a lexus. Did you catch that?
37:46
With his happy memories with Robin? A lot of good things happened in
37:50
that Lexus. I'm like, were we all fucking in that? Yeah?
37:52
Were they doing shit in there? Yeah? Just like Ethan and Olivia in
37:57
the hangar in his truck And he's like, if you took a black life
38:00
to the back seat that vehicle, it would be crazy. It'd be a
38:04
nightmare. I think that was absolutely happening with Robin and Cody. God,
38:07
it's so nasty. But she got her answer, that's right, So she
38:10
got her witnessing testimony that I'm supposed to be in this holy family. You're
38:19
Lizabean. Yeah, but that's what she says. Yeah, it's just like,
38:23
yikes, all of this is terrible. It's really bad. After that,
38:27
we bop on back to Christine and Janelle. They're still in this car
38:32
on this road trip, and there's a lot of different things that were said.
38:37
First and foremost, again, Janelle confirms that they're separated. She says,
38:40
it has been ten months since I've seen him, hung out with him,
38:44
been around him. Big. I'm like, wow, hasn't come around
38:46
once. No, and Cody also confirms on the couch that it's been ten
38:52
months. Janelle then says he hasn't called Savannah since school started, so she's
38:57
saying it's a month. So it's probably Tember or October at this time,
39:01
and he's dropped off the face of the planet again, asshole, Yeah,
39:06
very much. So they talk about the traditions in the family. Yeah,
39:09
this was interesting because they were talked about Thanksgiving. Christine's like, remember when
39:14
we used to just eat for four days straight on Thanksgiving every year, And
39:17
Janelle says that that stopped once Robin came into the picture, and a lot
39:22
of their family traditions stopped because Robin was a separate entity and she made it
39:28
that way, and so they couldn't do things together. And then Cody in
39:32
his talking head defends Robin again and says, no, we always did the
39:37
family traditions, like they didn't stop because of Robin. That was actually a
39:42
contingency for us to get married, was for her to respect our family traditions,
39:45
and in fact, she enhanced our traditions, which I think he is
39:51
possibly referring to the fact that Robin refused not to celebrate Christmas, and so
39:55
because Robin said, I'm going to Vegas, I'm gonna spend Christmas with my
39:59
family because you guys don't celebrate, then they brought Christmas back. So that
40:02
was the enhancement. But I thought it was pretty wild to learn that Thanksgiving
40:07
changed. Yeah, their Friday night family hangout changed. Yeah, no more
40:12
Friday night dinners. Why isn't she coming over to the Lehigh House right to
40:15
hang out with her kids on Friday nights or for Thanksgiving, Like, under
40:20
what theory is it okay to separate Cody from his family and his customs.
40:24
That's so fucked up? And like why just because you want to live out
40:28
this fantasy that Cody's like her kids's real dad and she never really had a
40:32
divorce, Like I think she's weird fucked up with that, Like that's why
40:36
she had the whole picture made of Cody yep, with Christine's kids and everything.
40:39
Like she's messed up. Man. Yes, In this conversation, Christine
40:45
seems to be very accepting of the fact that they're just soulmates. Yeah,
40:50
Cody happened to find somebody that he actually really deeply fell in love with,
40:54
and she has accepted this. And Janelle says that that's cool enough. And
41:00
yes, when Cody met Robin, he met someone who was a lot like
41:04
himself. Yeah, they got along, had a lot in common, but
41:07
his spiritual calling was to move beyond that experience and continue to love Robin,
41:15
of course, but also to equally love his other wives and children. So
41:19
it's fine that you find somebody that you vibe with, that's cool, but
41:22
you can't just cut off the rest of your family. You have to find
41:25
a way to rise above that and be there for them in the same way.
41:30
And she says, Cody really tried, yeah, in the beginning,
41:32
and I think he did try. I think he did too when the season
41:36
started, like or the series started. I think he was really trying to
41:38
make it all work. But he just got enamored and locked in to Robin.
41:44
And perhaps she was probably manipulating him too, perhaps, I mean,
41:46
well, telling him like, oh, you can just spend a little extra
41:49
time with me, it's fine, Like, don't even worry about it.
41:52
I don't like to let it out of my sight, right because they were
41:55
madly in love and that's fine. But I love this about Janelle that she
42:00
is calling him out on the spiritual bullshit because he is the one that's been
42:04
acting like the priest of the family, right, He's the patriarch of the
42:07
family, and like he's the leader. He has to be the example.
42:10
And I know, like in Christianity, that's like a Bible scripture, like
42:14
you need to lead your family as the man of the house. I'm sure
42:16
it's similar in more money than but he failed at that, and he doesn't
42:21
want to admit that. I think that's what really fucks him up inside,
42:24
and that's why he makes everybody out to be evil and terrible, and they
42:28
just hate me and they hate Robin, and so it's everybody else's fault but
42:31
me, because I'm perfect. Let me ask you a question. When you
42:35
watched the Mormonism Live interview with Cody Brown a week or two ago, did
42:38
you get this sense that he, in an embodied way, acknowledged that he
42:44
failed in his mission as a polygamist or is he still like trying to deflect
42:49
and pretend he didn't do anything wrong. Well, this is what narcs do.
42:52
Is like he says, I failed and it's hard to acknowledge my failures
42:58
and to see them broadcast on TV as like the worst days of my life.
43:01
But then he doesn't he doesn't get specific with it, and then he
43:06
goes back into, oh, well, the wives are trash talking me and
43:08
they didn't like Robin and so it was their fault. So like he says
43:13
it to appear like he's taking accountability, but there's not really any demonstration,
43:19
right, or like articulation of the ways that I actually failed and could have
43:22
done it better. Yeah, and these are the ways that I'm going to
43:23
try in the future to make it right. Hollow. Yeah, right,
43:27
so it doesn't really mean anything like you're saying sorry or you're saying you failed,
43:30
but it's you're not really learning it well. And it's like Robin's saying,
43:34
well, we're making a point to smile so everybody understands we're not the
43:37
bad guys. Hollow yet, hollow, Hollow, You don't actually really want
43:40
to be there, Yeah, and you actually don't love any of these people.
43:44
You just care about how you're being perceived, and you're being perceived poorly.
43:46
But rather than try to fix that or try to, I don't know,
43:51
manage it a little bit better, you're just going along with it with
43:53
these fake lies, thinking that people are gonna buy it. Right, people
43:58
who have watched eighteen seasons of Suit and we understand what's going on, Like
44:01
it would go such a long way Beatrice and Raccoons if he just said I
44:06
blew this. Yes, you know, I didn't expect to fall head over
44:08
heels in love and in a different way than I had loved these other women.
44:13
I didn't expect to truly want to spend more time with Robin and her
44:17
kids and our kids. I didn't plan for it to happen this way,
44:21
but it did, and now we have to shift and adjust and I have
44:23
to make amends because I said it was going to be a certain way,
44:27
like Kim Plath, I said it was going to be a certain way.
44:29
I'm never going to divorce your husband and my husband, and then you end
44:31
up doing it. You've got to make amends to the family that you created
44:36
with those tenants, those family tenants. You've got to do something. And
44:38
to me, if he could say that and show that and that he's actually
44:43
trying to change, it would go a long way for rehabilitating Oh for sure,
44:47
I would have more respect for him, equation. I probably wouldn't hate
44:51
him as much if he would just had the balls to say that and just
44:54
admit to his other wives, like, look, I did love you,
44:58
but I fell out of love with you because I found my woman, my
45:00
person, and I'm sorry, but like, let's figure something out, Like
45:04
Christine said, you know, like if he just told us that, it
45:07
would have made a difference. But he can't. He can't admit it.
45:09
It's pride. It's terrible, it's really bad. Yikes. They end this
45:15
road trip conversation by essentially affirming that they have each other. Janelle says,
45:21
I would be devastated to lose Christine and her kids, but I don't miss
45:25
Robin and I haven't seen Mary in a year, and I don't give a
45:29
shit about Cody and his abs. And they both say that they have their
45:34
core family unit with themselves and their kids. Yeah, and I thought that
45:38
was interesting. I think Christine said something like, we're actually the only two
45:43
to have survived polygamy. Yeah, because Cody's a monogamist and Mary's just somewhere
45:47
lost in Parilwana B and B. Nobody's caring about Mary Mary who geees.
45:55
Now we come to the last scene in the episodeisode where Christine and Janelle get
46:00
to Burley, Idaho. They immediately start writing ATVs and they're having a lot
46:08
of fun. Janelle likes the outdoors. She does. She likes a sense
46:13
of adventure. That's the Taurus in her it is. I think it's really
46:15
cute, very cute. Janelle tells us that she was actually a little bit
46:20
concerned because she knows what Christine's feelings are around polygamy, and so she doesn't
46:24
know if she's going to be walking into kind of a conversation about polygamy and
46:29
is she going to have to defend herself. How's this going to go down?
46:32
What did you think about the conversation around the table with Christine and her
46:37
younger brother who looks just like Peyden holy shit, and her other younger brother
46:43
and somebody's wife. What did you think about it? I mean, I
46:45
thought it was nice, and I thought Christine's brothers were really nice people,
46:49
like for being people who are very against polygamy, Like I think one of
46:52
the brothers I can't remember was even was it Levi the young well that said
46:58
that he thinks that polygamy should be illegal. I think Steve, yeah,
47:00
yeah, And so, I mean, they have very strong opinions about it,
47:04
and they made it known, but they were being very respectful, yes,
47:07
and they weren't antagonizing Janelle and being like, why are you staying with
47:09
this fucker? So I thought that was really nice. Christine's family seems nice.
47:15
Yes, there were a couple of conversations we had to get through before
47:17
we got to Janelle talking about her estate, which is what I really want
47:21
to talk about. But I think his name was Steve. He did say
47:23
that, yes, polygamy is harmful to women because it can leave them with
47:29
absolutely nothing. I think the other brother, LEVI, had maybe thought about
47:32
going into polygamy with his then wife, but then they didn't end up doing
47:37
that. We learn a little bit about Christine and how she grew up and
47:42
how her brother. I guess Steve was actually more conscious to the tension in
47:47
the house between her other mother who lived upstairs and then Christine's mother who lived
47:52
downstairs. Telling you the basement, why absolutely, it's like kind of weird
47:58
because Mary kind of ends up like her Christine ends up like her mother,
48:02
Janelle ends up like her mother. Ancestral energy, but Christine really never felt
48:08
that tension. It always just kind of felt like a party in her house.
48:12
Yeah, she knew at the age of seventeen that she wanted to be
48:15
the third wife in one of these polygamist families, and she was gung ho
48:19
for the religion. That's crazy. Yeah, she said she had a great
48:22
childhood, Like, wow, okay, I mean that's great. Yeah.
48:25
So I mean polygamy can work, I guess in some circumstances. If everybody
48:31
convinces themselves that they're happy in it. Yeah. I mean, do you
48:34
think it's even possible to have a polygamist family where the adults are happy or
48:42
is it always just a sacrifice for faith? I am so unhappy, but
48:45
I am putting my unhappiness on the altar for you God. This is my
48:50
demonstration of how much I love you, because I will stay here and suffer.
48:52
This is this what it is. I could never I mean I could
48:57
never either. But I think it depends on how the man handles it.
49:00
I think it all lands on the man and how they treat the wives,
49:04
because if you treat one differently than the other, they're going to pick up
49:07
on that, and then there's always going to be jealousy and there's always going
49:09
to be tension. But if the man can't separate his time equally and give
49:15
each wife what they need, then I think it can work. I mean,
49:20
if they if he can't actually divide his time, I can say how
49:24
it can be beneficial for the children. Yes, if you had two moms
49:29
or three moms, you had three or four incomes in the home, like
49:34
you can live at maybe a higher standard of living, especially in this economy's
49:37
got a lot of support. Yeah, like just having kind of an extended
49:40
family all around you. I can see how that would work. But I
49:43
can just never see how women, especially could put up with another women.
49:47
And then they start talking about the beginning of their marriages when they lived in
49:52
that trailer. I didn't know that. I think I knew that they lived
49:57
in a trailer, but like it was a small trailer. The walls were
50:00
thin, like tissue paper. I think they say, so each of them
50:05
had a bedroom. There's three bedrooms, like one bath, one small tiny
50:08
ass kitchen, and so Cody's just going from one wife to the next wife
50:14
to the next wife and banging them banging. You could hear all the sounds.
50:17
You can't hear all of the moaning, the headboard banging, Yes,
50:23
the cheeks clapping, honey, I can't. I would have I would go
50:28
homicidal. Well, I would not be able to handle something like that.
50:30
I'd runway in the middle of the night. I would kill everybody. Everybody
50:34
would be dead, and then I would take myself out. We're all dying
50:37
tonight. I hear you in that room. Oh my god, just that's
50:42
terrible. But I guess they're trying to live polygamy as they think it's supposed
50:45
to be. But my girl at Red Lipstick Reality TV, She's like,
50:51
how come you're all in a trailer? You're all adults, right, the
50:53
girl, you should be gainfully employed at the age of being employable, Like,
50:59
why don't y'all have Mary? Why aren't you working? CODI? What
51:01
are you doing? Janelle? What are you doing? Christine? What are
51:04
you doing? They you could at least go to the QT, get back
51:07
a job at the gas station, and get a nicer house. Right?
51:12
Is that judgmental of us? Is that classes? You're such a classes bitch?
51:15
They really are? Me? How dare you? It's not at all?
51:20
But I could have never lived like that, No girl, Oh god,
51:23
you know. And after this we start getting into the conversation around polygamy
51:31
and how Janelle really thinks that it would be great if there were some laws
51:37
in place that would establish the additional spouses, the additional women with legal rights
51:45
where they could actually if there is a divorce, they could actually pursue their
51:50
husband for their share of the assets and child support honey and maintenance or alimony
51:58
honey, which I don't think Estine is pursuing Cody for child sport. I
52:01
wouldn't know. I doubt it, but I don't think so. I think
52:05
she's just happy to be gone. But he should be paying six years of
52:08
child support yep, based on his income, which I would like to see
52:13
in discovery. Yes, but that would be yes. But he should be
52:15
paying for that. He should. And that's when Janelle said that about the
52:21
whole legal rights and everything with the divorce. I'm like, oh, I
52:23
know what you're bitter about. Like you have been stewing over this ever since
52:28
that big fight, yes, ma'am, And like, I'm glad that she
52:31
finally came to that realization that she's been the one that's been financially neglected.
52:36
Because Christine had money, She had her own ass house with her own name
52:39
on it, and she got to sell it and take that money and go
52:43
up to Utah. Mary's got her house and her business. Mary purchased it
52:46
herself. Mary put a lot of money into that family. Mary has also
52:50
been financially neglected. Just because she has her own money doesn't mean that she
52:52
wasn't robbed. She at least has a house, though Janelle's living in an
52:55
apartment, right, I mean, everybody has a house, but Janelle Like,
53:00
so I feel bad for Janelle that she's finally coming this realization, but
53:02
I'm also glad because now I'm like, Okay, now, never go back,
53:07
Never go back to Cody, no matter what he says to you to
53:09
try and reconcile, which he won't because he doesn't care. But like,
53:13
just never ever go back and separate your shit and get the fuck out of
53:17
there and make that Plexus money with Christine and live your best, happy life.
53:22
By the way, so she's Diamond in Plexus, which is I guess
53:27
like a certain level of selling, you have a certain kind of a downline.
53:31
I don't know anything really about MLMs that I know she's high up in
53:36
the celestial kingdom for Plexus, but I think at her level, diamond,
53:39
she's making like four hundred thousand a year. Good for her. And I
53:44
found this sid on Reddit. I also saw another Reddit post that said Cody
53:47
in the last few years was somehow prohibited from selling guns because he was selling
53:55
gun kits. He didn't have a license to sell guns. Buddy was,
54:00
and so now he's prohibited from doing so. And I'm not sure if that's
54:04
true, but it kind of calls into question his streams of income currently,
54:08
because if he can't go to his gun shows, he can't sell money,
54:12
excuse me, sell guns. Or if he can't make a profit that way,
54:15
then how's he going to be making his money except from TLC. I
54:19
wish we could see their coins because I don't know how they even making ends
54:22
meet right now with that two million dollar freaking flag staff, Like, how
54:25
can you even pay that mortgage and then pay the payments on the land that
54:30
you guys have, because if it's all on you and Robin's names, that's
54:32
over eight hundred thousand dollars in land. Because I doubt Mary kept her plot
54:37
of land. Maybe she think, no she did, she did, no,
54:40
no no. When they paid it off in June of twenty twenty three,
54:45
Janelle had ownership, Mary did, Cody and Robins, so maybe they
54:50
separated it then. I'm not sure. I think everybody retains their portion of
54:53
it, but that doesn't mean it's liquid for Janelle. It just means she
54:58
has a piece of land. And if you want to buy on it,
55:00
I mean, excuse me, build on it, then you're going to have
55:01
to put the money in to do so. Because Cody's not going to be
55:05
kicking in any money. No he's not. And so, yes, this
55:07
is all a harsh reality for Janelle. She realizes she's fucking screwed again.
55:14
I say, I wonder if there's not a legal argument or two that she
55:19
could make to get at the very least anything she invested in that McMansion back
55:22
to her, which again rumors are she did. But yeah, she's so,
55:28
she's here advocating for women in polygamy. I love that for her.
55:31
There should be laws to protect it. Really should there, really really should
55:35
if you're going to let it be legalized. I mean, I know it
55:38
wasn't legalized until recently, in recent decriminalized. I'm sorry, but like I
55:46
know it wasn't fully okay, But like, if you're going to decriminalize it,
55:51
if you're going to further legalize it, then there should be some laws
55:53
in place. Maybe it won't be like a full legal marriage, but at
55:58
least give the women the rights and stay like common law marriages. And yes,
56:01
Texas, yes, you can just say you're married. You don't even
56:04
have to get a legal marriage license or anything. Then the state of Texas
56:07
acknowledges Texas. Yeah, oh god, I had no idea. Yeah,
56:10
Texas has common law. There's a couple other states that do, but I
56:14
notice thing those well. And Janelle's like, in the current situation, the
56:19
way that everything is set up in polygamy, the husband can just ghost.
56:22
You can just pick up, take all of his toys and go home and
56:27
leave you with nothing high and drive. Nobody to pay the bills, muld
56:30
nobody a right, nobody to maintain your home, feature kids. He's just
56:35
gone and there's nothing you can do because you have no legal claim on that
56:37
man. So that is wrong. But at the same time, baby,
56:42
you put yourself in that position. You stayed in that position. You watched
56:45
him, Janelle, you especially washed watched him move that money around, Yes,
56:51
in the LLC, and you saw where that money went because you said
56:53
you did, and you know that it was spent in ways that weren't necessarily
56:58
good. You let it happen, and just like you let everything else happen,
57:01
and now you're stalty about it. I was thinking about this during this
57:05
scene. I'm like, so you're coming to these realizations, but you've been
57:07
allowing this to happen yet thirty something years, so like you're kind of complicit
57:13
in this Janelle, I mean I feel bad for you, yes, because
57:15
it's wrong, but also like girl, you could have left a long ass
57:21
time ago. She just never thought it would happen to her. Yeah,
57:23
maybe maybe she thought it would work out in the end. She kept having
57:27
hope buying Cody's lies. She saw what he did to Mary, then she
57:31
saw what he did to Christine yea, and she just thought he's never gonna
57:36
do that to me. And then as soon as they're gone, he focuses
57:39
on you and he starts doing it to you. And here we are,
57:43
man, Carol, I hope you got some money out of that. I
57:45
hope so. Okay, So thus ends the episode. What we do you
57:51
have to say? Though? I think Cody responds on the couch to this
57:54
particular part and he says that him, Robin, Janelle, and Mary all
58:00
have twenty five percent of Coyote Pass, so everybody has their assets, and
58:05
he has always been of the mind that the wives should have their assets.
58:09
He didn't say equal assets. He said that they have their own assets.
58:15
Yeah, And I'm like, okay, but Janell's again living in an apartment,
58:17
right, but she doesn't own and then Mary and her talking head says,
58:22
yeah, we all own pieces of the property, but none of it
58:24
is in either one of our names, Like, it's all shared and nobody
58:29
owns it outright. But nonetheless, I believe that this will be distributed equally.
58:32
Yeah, Okay, okay, Mary, believe in sure, down stop
58:37
believe Lord Jesus. Okay. Now onto the preview, which I'm wondering once
58:42
again if this is the season finale episode. I would be surprised if it's
58:45
not, but maybe it won't be. We see that Janelle says she's still
58:51
spiritually married to Cody, and I'm bored. I've already said this a million
58:53
times, Jesus, Mary and Joseph. And she doesn't know how to get
58:57
a divorce that way when you're spiritually eternally bound to the man, How do
59:00
you get a divorced Write a letter to your brains. We see Mary,
59:06
Cody, and Robin meeting at Coyote Pass again. Cody tells Mary in no
59:12
uncertain terms that she wants something that they simply cannot have, and this is
59:17
where we're gonna see. Mary says, I know you can love me.
59:21
Yeah, there was a time you loved me, saying it with her whole
59:25
chest, and I feel for this woman and this moment she's coming to terms
59:30
with what's happening. Then we see good old cry Brows Robin Goblin Sobbin crying
59:37
on the bench talking about how she wanted to sit on the performance of a
59:44
lifetime you go girl, girl, and then Cody's saying that this appears to
59:49
be the end of their plural marriages. Yeah, duh, you wanted this
59:53
to happen, right, guy, I'm like, why are you playing this
59:57
old dramatic part like it? Well, because if he doesn't initiate it and
1:00:00
if they leave him, then he's not at fault. Yeah, even though
1:00:04
he drove them away, he still gets his planet next to Cola. That's
1:00:07
right, I guess. Wow. So any final thoughts about the episode are
1:00:15
we getting Are we getting burnt out on this is? I'm getting burnt out
1:00:19
just on this season because it's like, we waited so long for season eighteen,
1:00:22
we were all so excited about it, and the majority of this season
1:00:24
has just been rehashed footage. And I saw somebody made a comment I read
1:00:30
it earlier today about this episode, like what the fuck is this shit?
1:00:32
Yeah, Like it's garbage and it just feels like we're getting like the blooper
1:00:36
reels, like the the b roll from at the bottom of the barrel of
1:00:39
bullshit. So hopefully like next season's gonna be all new stuff, and like,
1:00:45
I don't mind having some of the episodes be about Christine dating or like
1:00:49
other filler stuff if it's interesting. I just don't care about Mickelty and her
1:00:52
dumb kids. Oh god, and I don't care about like Cody loading cars
1:00:57
into a truck and acting like a bro with his friend. No, nobody
1:01:00
cares about any of that. Now get to the family stuff. I want
1:01:02
to see the coin well and show us actual family situations. Because everybody's filming
1:01:07
themselves on their iPhones. Why don't we have camera crews. Why aren't we
1:01:13
in Robin's house watching how she has the family. Why aren't we looking up
1:01:16
those paintings and that to vill Why can't we see the lower level of Robins
1:01:22
Town thank you and the only time. Yes, that's where the boxes are
1:01:24
crapy and the Rodents flat cats flat cats are down there. But I want
1:01:30
to see more with Lake Janelle and what she's interesting, even that little gardening
1:01:34
snippets cute with Gabe. I'm like, that is endearing, and I want
1:01:37
to see more of that lifestyle stuff. I don't want to see fucking flashbacks
1:01:40
and the same photographs shown over and over and over. I've seen those photographs
1:01:45
more than I've seen my own wedding photographs so much I'm over it, I
1:01:51
know. And if we have to see Mary at her fucking B and B
1:01:52
one more time, Jesus God, Mary, you're b and B no nobody
1:01:59
to date, super basic Mary, so bad. But I'm glad you have
1:02:01
dreams and I know you want to have retreats, and you're gonna get a
1:02:05
commercial kitchen. I'm here for you. I love that. But get a
1:02:07
glam squad. Yeah, get you a real man, honey, who doesn't
1:02:10
need to perm his fucking hair to hide his balding spots. Yeah, his
1:02:15
various balding spots. And show us your life, like even the Lula Row.
1:02:20
Show us what it is that you do so that we can deeply judge
1:02:22
you. Yes, but I want to see real life. I don't want
1:02:24
to see this shit. No, I don't want to. I'm getting I'm
1:02:27
getting offended. I know, like it's all this time we put into watch
1:02:30
these damn shows assaulting to my intelligence. Yes, and you're giving us crap,
1:02:35
and yet we're gonna watch. Of course, that's what TLC is so
1:02:37
fucked up for because they know they know we are and they know they don't
1:02:40
have to try hard exactly. But imagine if they did. I imagine if
1:02:44
they gave us the season of Our Lives where we see the fucking mental and
1:02:47
financial breakdown of Cody and Robin, the divorce of Cody and Robin Camp,
1:02:52
the bankruptcyas Janelle Winnings taking somebody getting that one hundred and forty thousand dollars mcmaon,
1:03:00
Like, give us some place. You're gonna lose people. Yeah,
1:03:04
they are. They're gonna lose people. They totally are. And I think
1:03:06
a lot of people have been dropping off in this season even it's like why
1:03:09
even our viewers on YouTube, like we started really strong and now people are
1:03:13
like every week even though we make it very entertaining, I would like to
1:03:15
remind you, yeah, make it and we have very I think thoughtful takes
1:03:21
on what it is we're watching, But it's the same shit over and over
1:03:23
it is, and a lot of what we're talking about, it's stuff that
1:03:27
we're intuiting and like we're trying to see four to five layers deep because they're
1:03:31
not saying anything because honestly, they've been lying to us since season one.
1:03:36
Yes, this whole entire time, they've been lying, putting on a fake
1:03:39
show. Like Janelle says, they were so idealistic, they wanted to make
1:03:44
it work so bad and put on this front that they were a happy polygamist
1:03:49
family and that it was possible, and then it was possible and it wasn't
1:03:52
because you ever heard possible, and you all have been lying to us.
1:03:54
Yep. Now just be honest about it, that would be so great and
1:03:58
show us the aftermath, authenticat We really appreciate it. Thank you, thank
1:04:02
you very much. All Right, Well that's all I have. Yeah,
1:04:06
I mean it was an all right episode. When we got to the finances,
1:04:10
that was interesting. I mean, it was just a taste though.
1:04:12
Want open the books, open the legend please. Well, we will be
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