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Chuck & Buck 12-23 Hour 1: Ohhhh Dk.... M's new addition and Old Man rivers still has it. · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: It's some time. Good morning class, ladies and gentlemen. Ladies
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  Speaker 1: and gentlemen, behold.
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  Speaker 2: In producing six one guard from Brighton, Illinois and former
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  Speaker 2: high school basketball stand what in the hell does that mean?
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  Speaker 3: Don't jumped any conclusions. Not a god, You've got to
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  Speaker 3: lower lower your expectations.
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  Speaker 2: Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to Pluto.
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  Speaker 3: I'm getting some Bucky Jacobson vibes.
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  Speaker 4: And former will just openly admit I'm a fat, out
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  Speaker 4: of shaped X athlete.
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  Speaker 2: Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.
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  Speaker 2: A five seven guard and a former college water polo
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  Speaker 2: and national champion.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of useless crap up here.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
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  Speaker 2: Ashley Ryan. What to you buy to Lato Casino Resort
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  Speaker 2: and Quilsee to Greek Draft King sports book where the
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  Speaker 2: action never stopped?
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  Speaker 4: There you go. Well, good morning, uh and welcome to
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  Speaker 4: the program. We have four hours of radio. But it
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  Speaker 4: is not Chuck.
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  Speaker 3: He again is taking.
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  Speaker 4: Another day off, and rightfully so and well deserved. He
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  Speaker 4: needs to get rested up so that he can deal
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  Speaker 4: with Ashley and.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't that the truth.
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  Speaker 5: I can barely see you in there by the way,
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  Speaker 5: Is it dark?
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  Speaker 1: It is dark.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, I think that's Bucky. I just have
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  Speaker 5: to dim my lights to match his lights.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna I'll turn him up because it's you know,
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  Speaker 4: I don't want anybody to not be able to see
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  Speaker 4: all of this and in all of its glory. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Or I'll just turn it all the way off. You
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  Speaker 4: can just stare into a dark room.
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  Speaker 5: Either way, just as song as we're not in this
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  Speaker 5: middle portion that we're in right now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you just just my face with the glow of
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  Speaker 4: these computer screens. I'm sure that'd be wonderful. I think
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  Speaker 4: it was anders. I think Andrews was in here doing
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  Speaker 4: the hockey game, and he probably dims the lights, you know,
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  Speaker 4: for mood.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and whatnot.
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  Speaker 5: That makes sense, I guess, because yeah, where the lights
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  Speaker 5: are right now with the chis is probably really good radio.
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  Speaker 5: But all I can really see is the outline of
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  Speaker 5: my big white door behind me in my reflection of
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  Speaker 5: the glass, and then your face is just kind of
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  Speaker 5: faded behind that.
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  Speaker 4: Oh well, then it's probably you're probably better off for it.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm gonna I don't want to see shoe. I'm
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  Speaker 4: un a shoe by turning the lights up after it,
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  Speaker 4: I'll appreciate it. Yeah, okay, all right, good, Well, like
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  Speaker 4: I said, we got four hours of radio, no Chuck,
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  Speaker 4: just Ashley and I today, no Hue.
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  Speaker 3: That's fine. Then we don't have to die.
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  Speaker 4: We don't have to talk about nothing but football, because
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  Speaker 4: there's other things to talk about. I don't know for
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  Speaker 4: sure if there's anything more important or well, I don't
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  Speaker 4: even know if you call this important. Probably bigger story
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  Speaker 4: that has some ties to the Seattle folks here other
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  Speaker 4: than the whole DK situation. Yeah, that's a doozy what
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  Speaker 4: I mean. Obviously we discussed yesterday that, you know, somewhere
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  Speaker 4: towards the end of the game this weekend Steelers against
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  Speaker 4: the Lions in Detroit. Everybody's seen at this point unless
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  Speaker 4: you've been living under a rock, that he decided to
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  Speaker 4: go over to a fan and somebody had been obviously
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  Speaker 4: heckling him and saying some stuff. His side of the
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  Speaker 4: story is that he called him the N word and
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  Speaker 4: called his mother the sea word. Yes, both of which
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  Speaker 4: in a just regular setting I would say warrant getting
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  Speaker 4: slapped upside the face either or not to mention if
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  Speaker 4: you did both. Now, I ended up seeing a video
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  Speaker 4: yesterday of someone right there, I mean in the stands.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't hear any of that.
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  Speaker 4: Now, if he said it when he was right up
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  Speaker 4: close to him, when he was kind of bending down
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  Speaker 4: and and DK looked like kind of grabbed his shirt
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  Speaker 4: before he took a swipe at took a swipe at
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  Speaker 4: him trying to hit him or did hit him, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: if he said it right there, yeah, you didn't catch that.
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  Speaker 4: But leading up to it, what cat on that video
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  Speaker 4: wasn't anything other than your typical heckling.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, just people yelling and they were like, don't sign it,
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  Speaker 5: like he wanted to sign his Lion's shirt.
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  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I don't. Yeah, who knows.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't understand the whole thing.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know for sure if we will ever get
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  Speaker 4: the whole truth and nothing but the truth DK is
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  Speaker 4: for you know, he's coming out on his and saying
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  Speaker 4: I've had issues with this guy before. Apparently he had
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  Speaker 4: reported this this fan back when he was a Seahawk.
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  Speaker 4: He had reported him to the Seahawks security team because
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  Speaker 4: of him saying inappropriate things. Are just Dek not liking
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  Speaker 4: him saying anything, and then now this time he basically
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  Speaker 4: ends up having a physical confrontation with the guy that
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  Speaker 4: now he's going to be suspended for the rest of
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  Speaker 4: this regular season, which is going to cost him five
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  Speaker 4: hundred and forty four thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 3: And that's not even the worst of it.
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  Speaker 1: The worst is that that looks like pennies.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, forty five million dollars of guaranteed money that was
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  Speaker 4: in his big one hundred plus million dollar contract is
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  Speaker 4: now at the risk of being it's not guaranteed now
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  Speaker 4: doesn't mean that he's not going to make it or
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  Speaker 4: can't still make it. It just gives the Pittsburgh Steelers
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  Speaker 4: an out if they want to get out. And I
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  Speaker 4: think that's a doozy. Now he's putting up he's not
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  Speaker 4: having a great season, but that they are not having
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  Speaker 4: a great offensive season. He's starting to come on a
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  Speaker 4: little bit as of late. I think Aaron Rodgers is
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  Speaker 4: starting to recognize what it is that he how he
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  Speaker 4: does what he does, and their connection is getting a
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  Speaker 4: little better.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't know for sure.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you just you basically feel like you're skating
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  Speaker 4: on thin ice. If I'm dk now with the idea
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  Speaker 4: of man, I do anything wrong, they can get rid
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  Speaker 4: of me and they don't owe me that guaranteed money
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  Speaker 4: that was in my contract because he's done something that
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  Speaker 4: Somewhere in the contract there was the verbiage of if
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  Speaker 4: you do something detrimental to the team, or you miss
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  Speaker 4: games because of something other than an injury, then you
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  Speaker 4: this stuff is not guaranteed anymore. So now all of
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  Speaker 4: a sudden, you're just playing on a contract that you
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  Speaker 4: don't have basically the guarantee, which is I think what
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  Speaker 4: most of these guys are going for when they're trying
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  Speaker 4: to get these new contracts. So I feel for them.
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  Speaker 4: At the same time, I don't. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 4: want to say that it's that it's right for a
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  Speaker 4: fan to say anything, because I think fans are far
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  Speaker 4: too emboldened these days to just.
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  Speaker 3: Talk trash without the fear of consequences.
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  Speaker 4: But the consequences cannot ever be you taking a swipe
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  Speaker 4: at them, you trying to punch them. As an athlete,
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  Speaker 4: you just part of what goes into being a pro
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  Speaker 4: athlete is all of the extra stuff. It's not you know,
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  Speaker 4: you just get to play a game and you get
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  Speaker 4: to act a fool. If so, you don't like how
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  Speaker 4: somebody says something to you, or or how things are
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  Speaker 4: going you. Part of your job is acting professional, even
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  Speaker 4: in the light of somebody else acting like an a hole,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I mean, what's your thought. I mean, do
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  Speaker 4: you think the suspension for the rest of the regular season,
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  Speaker 4: and the stipulation of what it's possibly going to do
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  Speaker 4: to his contract moving forward, do you think that's fair?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's a lot more than I
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  Speaker 5: thought was going to happen to him. I thought maybe
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  Speaker 5: he'd get fined.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't.
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  Speaker 5: I would have he should be suspended for a game,
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  Speaker 5: but I didn't know that they would do that, so
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  Speaker 5: I was quite surprised to see the two game suspension.
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  Speaker 5: I think the biggest issue when I've watched all of
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  Speaker 5: these angles of the videos over and over and over,
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  Speaker 5: is that DK could have avoided this situation. He's on
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  Speaker 5: the sideline, the guy's yelling at him. All you have
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  Speaker 5: to do is walk the other direction. Instead, he stood there,
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  Speaker 5: listen to it for a bit, then chose to walk
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  Speaker 5: up to the fan and start this altercation. The guy
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  Speaker 5: is in the stands, He's not coming down on the field.
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  Speaker 5: He's not going to come attack you. So if you
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  Speaker 5: go the other direction, you avoid the whole thing. And
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  Speaker 5: in this situation, it's your livelihood and your name. No
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  Speaker 5: one knows who this guy is or knew who this
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  Speaker 5: guy was before this altercation happened. Everyone knows who you are,
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  Speaker 5: so you've got to protect the reputation that you have.
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  Speaker 1: And he didn't do that.
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  Speaker 5: He put himself in this, in this situation, and he said,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I feel for him. Yeah, I feel for
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  Speaker 5: him in the sense that if this guy has had
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  Speaker 5: if he's had issues with this guy over and over again,
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  Speaker 5: or if this guy did say what DK's saying he
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  Speaker 5: said and not what the fan is because the fans
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  Speaker 5: saying he just called him by his full name, and
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  Speaker 5: we're like, hired a lawyer already and has put out
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  Speaker 5: a statement and is probably now gonna sue Dkay oh yeah,
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  Speaker 5: and so in that But again, the reason I don't
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  Speaker 5: feel for him is because it never had to happen.
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  Speaker 5: All he had to do was go the other direction.
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  Speaker 5: You are down on the field, you were twenty feet
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  Speaker 5: away from him. You could have walked the other way
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  Speaker 5: instead of turning around and going over to the fan
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  Speaker 5: and Honestly, someone from the Steelers should have been on
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  Speaker 5: it to have pulled him away as he started walking
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  Speaker 5: to the guy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, well that teammate wise or coaching staff wise.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, but then again, I don't know for sure
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  Speaker 4: if DK is one that takes prodding or probing or anything.
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  Speaker 4: Hey dude, do this. Here's the direction you need to go,
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  Speaker 4: whether it's physically direction go to that direction or just
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  Speaker 4: taking direction. I mean, I'm not gonna say that he's
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  Speaker 4: completely uncoachable, but I'm going to say that he's not
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  Speaker 4: the most coachable. Oh yeah, you know, I just don't
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  Speaker 4: think that. I think that he has a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of the I'm kind of a one of one. Yeah
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  Speaker 4: you are physically, but you're not even close to one
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  Speaker 4: of one between the years when it comes to how
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  Speaker 4: to handle yourself. We watched it here and it was
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  Speaker 4: one of the more frustrating things. There was frustration, legitimate
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  Speaker 4: frustration about how he was used in the offense. And
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  Speaker 4: you know, I mean I buy into a lot of
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  Speaker 4: what Hugh says. I think Hughes football knowledge is off
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  Speaker 4: the charts. So when he's saying you gotta take a
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  Speaker 4: shot to this guy at least once a game or
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  Speaker 4: once a half or whatever it is, and you have
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  Speaker 4: to just try to pound the ball to this guy
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  Speaker 4: because of what he brings to the table physically and
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  Speaker 4: how he can change a game. I was on board
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  Speaker 4: with that and understood that, and the fact that that
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  Speaker 4: didn't happen for majority of the time that he was
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  Speaker 4: a Seahawk, I can understand where frustration would be on
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  Speaker 4: the flip side of it.
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  Speaker 3: There's other parts.
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  Speaker 4: I think that that maybe he doesn't do the same
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  Speaker 4: as Jackson Smith and Jigba, Like wouldn't a quarterback first
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  Speaker 4: and foremost want to be able to know you're going
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  Speaker 4: to be exactly where you're going to be. I mean
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  Speaker 4: to the half a yard, I mean exactly. I don't
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  Speaker 4: think that he was that great at it. Otherwise, his
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  Speaker 4: physical attributes combined with his route running. If it was
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  Speaker 4: like Jackson Smith and Jigba, he's not going to be
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  Speaker 4: He's going to be the one setting all the records.
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  Speaker 4: But now Jackson Smith and Jigma's blowing that stuff, blowing
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  Speaker 4: that stuff out of the water, and good for Seahawks fans. Basically,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think anybody is you know, sitting
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  Speaker 4: here wishing that they had him back at thirty million
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  Speaker 4: dollars a year so that he can get personal foul
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  Speaker 4: penalties and we can hope that at some point reaches
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  Speaker 4: his ceiling. But back to the kind of the idea
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  Speaker 4: or the situation at hand, I'm with you. There's a
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  Speaker 4: way in which you could handle it, which is very easy.
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  Speaker 4: You just ignore them, right, And it's hard.
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't feel like I mean, you know, it doesn't
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  Speaker 5: feel good to let someone just get away with saying
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  Speaker 5: horrible things to you.
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  Speaker 1: No, doesn't feel good.
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  Speaker 4: And I mean for the sake of I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 4: not one hundred percent sure the guy would have said
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  Speaker 4: it or did say it somebody. There is people that
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  Speaker 4: would say those things, and those people are not good people,
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  Speaker 4: and it would be nice if they get caught, if
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  Speaker 4: they're at a venue and they're saying things like that
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  Speaker 4: to the athlete and get it, you know, kicked out.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know how you keep somebody from ever
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  Speaker 4: coming back. Whenever they say somebody's banned forever. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 4: facial recognition when you walk into a stadium, But how
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  Speaker 4: do they keep you out? Right, You're gonna have somebody
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  Speaker 4: else buy the ticket. Your name never has to go
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  Speaker 4: near it. You can just go walking in with the rest.
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  Speaker 3: Of the herd.
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  Speaker 4: But the idea of you're out here for this game.
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  Speaker 4: We just heard you call him the N word, or
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  Speaker 4: we've heard what she called his mom. If we're going
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  Speaker 4: to take DK at his word that that was said,
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  Speaker 4: that's unfortunate. And yesterday I said, I how during my
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  Speaker 4: career I was an easy target for heckling. Right, It
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  Speaker 4: just with my name and what it rhymes with, and
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  Speaker 4: being kind of a bigger guy. And I had a
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  Speaker 4: you know, propensity to strike out, and so there'd be
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  Speaker 4: I'd be the beer batter of the game, right where
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  Speaker 4: if you strike out, beers are on sale for the
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  Speaker 4: next half inning or something. Well, they would do that,
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  Speaker 4: and I loved it. Like some I had teammates that
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  Speaker 4: hated it. It added pressure. They didn't like the fact
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  Speaker 4: that when they get two strikes the crowd really comes
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  Speaker 4: alive because they want cheaper beer.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I loved it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I ate it up. I had sometimes when
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  Speaker 4: people would maybe toe the line of going over the
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  Speaker 4: top right where I don't know if fat shaming is
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  Speaker 4: necessary now, that's completely different than a racial slur right
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  Speaker 4: like in today's well in no time should it have been.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, But I mean fifty years ago it was more common.
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  Speaker 3: It was all the time, right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, if you when when African Americans got put
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  Speaker 4: in yet you know, we're allowed to play in sports,
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  Speaker 4: they got abused.
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  Speaker 1: When you say fifty years ago, I felt like that
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  Speaker 1: was a really long time ago. That was still the eighties. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's how old we are, right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well seventy seventy seven, so it is even longer
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  Speaker 4: than fifty years ago.
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  Speaker 1: There years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but even fifty years ago, it wasn't good. It
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  Speaker 3: wasn't it wasn't fun.
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  Speaker 4: It was worse for a black athlete back then than
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  Speaker 4: it is now. That said, that doesn't mean that, hey,
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  Speaker 4: since it's so much better, you rarely get called that
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  Speaker 4: that you should just let it roll off your back. No,
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  Speaker 4: it's not, it's not okay, I'm not okay. So, if
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  Speaker 4: DK was telling the truth that the guy said that,
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  Speaker 4: I can see why you'd want to punch him in
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  Speaker 4: the face, right, he deserves to be punched in the face.
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  Speaker 4: You just can't do it, right then, correct, you can't.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you can not do it. It's unprofessional. And
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  Speaker 4: you're right, it's not even about the money. It's not
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  Speaker 4: about but it's not about the principle either. It's about
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  Speaker 4: you have you and your name that you need to
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  Speaker 4: stand on, right. I mean, as a kid, when I
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: was growing up, there was one of the big rules
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  Speaker 4: was do not embarrass our family, meaning don't do things
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  Speaker 4: that you know would come back and shine a light
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  Speaker 4: as to my mom or dad being like, we didn't
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  Speaker 4: raise you like that, like that, like if I ever
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  Speaker 4: had that.
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  Speaker 3: I got caught stealing one time.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know why, I decided to steal some weightlifting
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  Speaker 4: gloves when I was twelve, and it was the butt
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  Speaker 4: whoop and I got and the grounding for the entire
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  Speaker 4: summer was not because necessarily that I tried to take
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  Speaker 4: something that was twelve dollars and I didn't pay for it.
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  Speaker 4: It was the principal behind we didn't raise you. You're
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  Speaker 4: not a thief. We didn't raise you that you can
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  Speaker 4: just take something even if you don't have the money
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  Speaker 4: for it. We didn't raise you in a way in
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  Speaker 4: which you're going to act like that. And so it
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  Speaker 4: was the embarrassment to the name right to my my
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  Speaker 4: family's name, that it was like, you're going to you're
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  Speaker 4: gonna pay for this one, gonna you're gonna feel this punishment.
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  Speaker 4: This is going to be more than your average go
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  Speaker 4: to your room and think about what you did type
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  Speaker 4: of thing. And and to me, so that sticks with me,
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  Speaker 4: and that's kind of part of the reason why when
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: we talk about all kinds of different topics, I have
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  Speaker 4: a hard time with athletes more so today. Not to
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  Speaker 4: say it hasn't always been there, because you've had athletes
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  Speaker 4: that have have clap back at fans. You've had athletes
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  Speaker 4: that have have done something like this before, wanted to
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  Speaker 4: go into the stands, tried to go into the stands.
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  Speaker 3: You've had stuff like this happen.
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  Speaker 4: But it seems more now like there's the talk is more,
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  Speaker 4: for sure, whether it's the talk amongst competitors on the
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: field is more, and then that the emboldened fan is more.
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: They can't wait to say stuff and they will. The
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: line has been pushed further to where they I think
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: they can get away with doing more. And then the
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: response to it or the players not having the ability
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: to just turn around and ignore it and just take
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: it as that's part of the game. You know part
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: of the entertainment aspect of this. As I play in
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: front of sixty seventy thousand people, and there's going to
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: be a nice little chunk them that are giant a holes.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: They're going to say stuff that they shouldn't and MY
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: job is to just go out and continue to perform
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: for those that aren't a holes while that guy gets
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: to watch. I just have to ignore it and let
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: it go. And yet he just doesn't have the ability
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: to do that, which is a bit worrisome because the
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: real world is still out there.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Right, You're still living in the real world.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: Even though you get to play a job and make
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: fantasy money while you just get to run around and
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: play football, you still are in the real world, and
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: majority of your life is going to be lived in
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: the real world. And I don't feel like this guy
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: has a temperament that allows him to really what's the
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: word like kind of gauge how am I supposed to act?
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: Based on this situation at hand. I feel like he
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: really misses the boat on certain things. And it's unfortunate
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: because I don't know for sure if you can teach
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: this age dog a new trick of how dude you
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: got to get yourself under control, man, because you're I
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: just I fear it's the Antonio Brown effect kind of right,
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: like you just for some reason, it feels like there's
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: a lot of athletes nowadays that because they live in
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: this world of I am pretty special, that it translates
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: outside of the game, and when you're not even playing
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: the game, you're standing on the sidelines. I don't have rules.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: The rules of society don't necessarily pertain to me. And
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: I just don't think that's the case. And I think
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: that you end up running into a bunch of hardships
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: if you do think that's the case.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, and I think in just in this situation too,
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: it's you know, there's so many videos out there, and
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: you can't hear this guy say the words that DK
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: has said. He's said right, so unless he said it
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: up close and nobody can hear it.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: There's one thing there, right.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: The other thing is DK notoriously has put himself above
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: his teammates, and here's another situation of him doing it
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: to an extreme level where now he is actually detrimental
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: to his team. They have two games left, they're trying
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: to make the playoffs, and now he's pending an appeal,
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: gonna miss him both. And then on top of that,
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: he's detrimental to himself in his livelihood because of what
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: he's done. And it's like you saw these small glimpses
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: of it on a much smaller scale when he was here. Right,
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: gets whine, he whinds when he doesn't get the ball
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: thrown his way, he gets angry when defenders get under
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: his skin, and those are the things that really, for
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: how long he's been in the league, somebody should have
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: been working with him on that, because it's so easy
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: for people to get under his skin, and so's there's
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: really no excuse for why this happens. And then you
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: need to think too as as the professional athlete. You
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: know what, it's ridiculous that these fans think because they
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: bought a ticket, they can say whatever they want to
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: us and we have to take it. I agree, that
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: is ridiculous, and I have no place in my heart
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: for a fan who thinks that they are owed that
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: because they paid money for a ticket. Right, But you
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: don't win if you engage, Right. If you don't engage,
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: you walk away, and then you go score a touchdown.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Now you just won you shut that fan.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Up right, Yeah, that was.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Where I was going with the idea of I used
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: to enjoy the idea of getting backled, and again you
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: kind of wanted to real quickly correct the idea of
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: me getting made fun of because I'm big or fat
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: or bald or my name rhymes with bad words. That's
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: completely different than getting called the N word. One hundred
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: percent to understand that, right, the idea. I mean, some
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: people might say fat shaming is just as bad. I
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: don't necessarily I'm a big guy. Wasn't he a fat
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: when they were making fun of me? Not like I
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: am Now, I would say that, yes, they're not the same,
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: and yet it's the same concept. The concept is they're
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: trying to get under my skin. You have a couple options.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: You can try to ignore it even though it pisses
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: you off.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: You can engage. You can never engage physically, but you
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: can engage. I actually because I saw it as an
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: opportunity to to kind of shut them up. Like when
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: people you hear me all the time, I don't like
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: when people are chirping, when they yapping and they talking
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: a bunch of trash. Why do I not like it
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: because it almost sets you up for when you go
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: fail that it makes it doubly bad. Right, you're talking
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: all this trash and then you go out and get burnt,
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: or you're talking all this trash and then you go
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: out there and you fail. To me, it's like, oh man,
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: that's got to sting twice as bad because you were
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: talking trash. Well, when a fan starts it would start
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: with me. I would end up immediately turn around, be like,
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: I'm so glad you got to come and watch me
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: play today, right, And then there'd be a couple of
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: fans laughing around him. He'd be like, oh, he's engaging, okay,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: and he'd keep coming back.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Inevitably, it's like if I struck out and he's like, yeah,
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: that's right, you suck and this happened, I'd be like, yeah,
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: but I get to go back up there and try
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: to go yard next time, right, or next time it
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: came on deck, he would start talking and I'm like,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna do this. This one's for you, kid, And
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: then eventually when i'd hit a bomb, I'd come back
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: and wink at or tip my cap to and be like,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: you want to go get that it's probably like a
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: five dollars cab, right to go get that ball?
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Right? Can you go get that for me? Next thing?
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: You know, that whole section was like a fan of me,
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: not because I engaged, but because I engaged in a
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: way that was fun right now, different than being called
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: the N word, I understand. But I don't think DK
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: is capable of what I just said. I don't think
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: that he is capable of taking a Heckler and flipping
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: the script on him and turn it into I'm going
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: to show you how much control I have because I
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: don't think.
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, where it's like you could go catch a touchdown
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: and then run over and give him the ball, yeah,
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: and then go back to the bench.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: I just unfortunately I don't think he has it. But no,
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: it is what it is. We will probably discuss this
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: a little further. We're gonna have a bunch of people
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: and we got to find out what else is on tap?
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: What's on tap?
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: What's on tap? All right?
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: We got a lot going on today. The Mariners did
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: make a move. We're gonna discuss that. Uh, Philip Rivers,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: I did want to talk a little bit about, uh,
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: the old man going out there and dealing again. Last
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: night it was in a loss, but he's still dealt.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: We're gonna have Greg Bell. We're gonna have Mike k
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: He's a writer from Charlotte. He's gonna come on and
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: help us discuss the Panthers. We're gonna have the One
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: and Only Jean's Territory. We gotta get a little Gene
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: time in. We're gonna have FITZI on to discuss the
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: Kraken and the fact they got off the schneid a
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: little bit with the win last night. Tricky Ricky new Heizel,
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: We're gonna have him on discuss the college football playoffs.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: I want to get Ashley's confidence meter. Where we're sitting
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: right now with something that comes to the Seahawks. And again,
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: we're going to talk a little bit more about the
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Mariners free agency. But on the other side of this,
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: we are going to get into the Mariners and their
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: most recent signing and free agency on the other side
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: here at Sports Radio ninety three point three KGRFM. Although
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: that's a pretty funny game.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it is a funny game because people get really
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: annoyed by that song.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: So I had to play it at least once.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Le Chris, Okay, I had no idea.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Just like a PayPal commercial, you know, you mean twice
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: every break, every single time we're on, so.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: You'd have to play it like again right now, every.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Bumper in the middle of the segment.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Ago that commercial, I mean, PayPal must be paying a lot.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's it's really something. I'll say that,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: it's really something.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: That's why we make so much money.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Sure, it's always fun when you know every single word
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: of a commercial because you hear it.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Twice about every single break.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so all the listeners out there that do text
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: in like really PayPal enough enough yea, we get it.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: We're with you.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we hear it too. So yeah, that's uh, it
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: is what it is. But I guess that's what pays
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: the bills.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Around here, the bills, and I did paypals of the bills,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: and I did turn the lights on it. You see
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: about it your face now, look, you are so welcome.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: I love it all right, Well, onto the topic at hand.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Mariners did make a move yesterday. Uh it's not like
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Kyle Tucker, but I don't mind this deal.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: This this move.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: They ended up signing Rob Refschneider he's a kind of
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: a journeyman. I guess you'd say, I think he's thirty
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: four years old. Thirty four, Yeah, I think he turns
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: thirty five on opening Day. Okay, kind of a career
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: backup dude has not really ever had a season that
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: he goes out and puts up any sort of crazy numbers.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Not known for his defense, but he is known to
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: be able to play a lot of different positions.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: He can place, you can play.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Anywhere in the outfield, not great birth catch most of
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: the balls. He's played a little bit second, and he
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: has he can play some first base. And so I
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: think this is a move where you got yourself a
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: bit of you have a utility guy, but not for defense,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: just because you can put him in anywhere. And he
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: rakes left handed pitching. I mean he's one of the
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: better right handed hitters against lefties as far as his
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: hard hit rate.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's up there. I think it was Luke
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Arkins had.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Wrote an article on it that I had read earlier
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: this morning, I think, and he was I don't remember
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: the numbers exactly, and I don't have in front of me.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I should have pulled that up.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: If I'm going to reference it, but it was something
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: along the lines of there was three hundred hitters that
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: had this minia bats against lefties, and he was like,
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: he was like twentieth or twenty fifth as far as
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: hard hit rate amongst all of them. I mean with
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: basically like Kyle Tucker, Kerry Carpenter, the guy that we
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: all hate because he's really good, really good and good looking. Yeah,
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: like you need things, Yeah exactly.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: How about you be as big strike out guy if
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: you're gonna look.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, come on, man, look at my smile. It's
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: really great.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just hit game winners. How's that taste?
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, suck it.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: So he's up there with him as far as hard
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: hit rate and whatnot, at least against left handed pitching.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: So it's kind of one of those you have check
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: a box.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's at a minimum, I think it raises
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: the bar of your bench, ok, right, Like which matters
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: over the course of one hundred and sixty two games.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: You're gonna need to give Josh Naylor a breather. At
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: some point in time. He can fill in there, He
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: could play some second, He can play anywhere in the outfield.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: I think He's probably a guy that you could put
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: just about anywhere. Not shortstop, obviously, not catcher, but I
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: think you could put him just about anywhere. He's going
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: to not be great there, but he's going to do
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: the job when he gets up to bat.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: So he's not gonna be like an everyday guy.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna be in every day.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: Okay, So he's just gonna be the person that they're
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: kind of putting in to give people rest or fill
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: a hole if somebody knock on it gets hurt.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: I think he'll be your left handed I think he
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: I think he'll be your DH going into spring training.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Right now, I think he's your DH. You pencil in
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: every time there's a lefty start, okay, and then he's
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: coming off the bench against a lefty reliever if he
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: isn't in the game, because he's that good.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: So your best.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: The best thing he's bringing to the table is his
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: offense against lefties.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: So it to me then brings up the idea of okay, well,
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: then whose our DH against.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Right handed pa?
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, do we have to we have to have one
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: for both sides of the players.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Well that or I mean his splits are significantly different.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: I had them pulled up his his against right handers,
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: he's hitting two twenty nine. This is over the course
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: of you know, his entire career, which is it's been
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: a decent career, but it's still limited amount of bats.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Eight hundred bats or so.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: He's got a two twenty nine batting average against the
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: righty's versus a two eighty one against lefties. Okay, significantly
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: more power production, everything that he brings to the table.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: He's really good against lefties and not so much. And
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: so to me, the first name that popped into my.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Head, rights against righties you're talking about.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: Yes, against righty's, was Carlos Santana. Yes, I mean older.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: We like what he brings to the clubhouse. We know
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: he fits in there.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: We know they love him.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: He's still he still keeps like fighting father time. Like
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: everybody's like, well he's old, we can't.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: And then every year you see him at least have
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: a couple of highlights on Sports Center doing something.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Yeap. So I mean that's a way where this is
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: just a one year deal.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: By the way, the Mariners sign Rob Refschneider for one year,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: six and a quarter mill I mean, you go out there,
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: maybe get I don't know how much. Carlos Santana would
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: be eight million bucks or something like that. So you're
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: paying fourteen million bucks for a dh Okay, you get
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: two of them, two for the price of.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Two for the price one. We put them up there
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: at the same time.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think that's against the rules. Okay,
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: it's not a bad idea. I wouldn't want to go
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: up there. That would really suck it fouls one off.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: You're both swinging. Oh no, web gb Yeah, it makes
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: you shake, you know, isn't that?
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Isn't that what you call those hebgb's usually Oh, heb gbs.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: I've never heard.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Hermiston we say the web gbs. Maybe we don't. I
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: think he be GB's is right. I just called it
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: the web GB's, all right. Well, I don't want to
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: give anybody else the web gbs because I just got.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Them and it made me.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: It made me, It gave me goosebumps, all right, way, No,
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: not in a good way at all. Well, we got
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: to witness, uh, the old Man Rivers experiment again last night,
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: and I saw some folks out there tweeted us, saying, well,
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: now I feel a lot better about our defense after
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: watching him dice that up.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: I got.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: I got a couple of questions to ask Ashley about
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: father time and old man Rivers if he could beat
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: it stick around here at Sports Radio ninety three point
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: three k RFM. Oh my goodness, I had no idea.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: That is interesting because yeah, I of all times, for
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: those that don't know, I always guess Hughie, and it
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: never is Huie.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: And apparently they did put out a Christmas album, so
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: we might play all their Christmas songs today.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Well, they've basically written all of the Christmas album.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they just haven't performed them all. But now we
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: have found we've unlocked something.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad that we did. Thank you, Hughie. Thank
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: you for all of the Christmas music that you've written.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and all the music ever, Yes.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: All of all music that you are basically known for
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: and don't get accredited for. Don't get the credit for
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: because we appreciate you, because other people steal your work,
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: and that's unfortunate.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: It is because I know you're the best.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: You're a victim of circumstances.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Actually, I don't know if I like Huey Lewis.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Wow, well that's taking a turn.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well it is what it is.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: I don't you know what it's because I don't really
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: know what he sounds like.
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  Speaker 5: Because you do think everybody is him, so you don't
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  Speaker 5: know what his actually sound is.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure he was good back at some point.
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  Speaker 1: He's got great music, does he?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'll take your word for it. Anyways. You
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: know who else has great music? I don't Philip Rivers?
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, great, sure, Oh he's got an extensive collection.
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  Speaker 3: I bet he does. I bet he does.
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  Speaker 4: That's probably what he's been doing the last few years
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: when he wasn't playing football. You know, I couldn't stand
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: him when he was a Charger quarterback, even though I
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: respect him. And that's usually those that I dislike the most,
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: it's because they are really good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really. You know, you're some.
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  Speaker 4: Guy that just never did anything. You weren't really all
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: that good. You never really hurt my feelings.
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  Speaker 1: Unless you're just a total turd.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but those guys don't. If you're a turd
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: and you're not good, yeah, you probably don't see you
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  Speaker 4: very long. No, no, no, And he didn't do anything
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: to steal my joy from my root and for my team. Well,
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: when he was a Charger quarterback, he did plenty of it.
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  Speaker 4: And then he would talk trash, Dad, Gimmett and all
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: of the other not bad words that he would say somehow,
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  Speaker 4: And he was the best trash trucker in the league
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  Speaker 4: for years.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't have that now.
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  Speaker 4: I mean now I didn't want I don't want him
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  Speaker 4: to win because he plays on a team, an AFC team.
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  Speaker 4: Now there are chances of making the playoffs. I think
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  Speaker 4: if dwindled to five percent after their loss last night
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  Speaker 4: to San Francisco, which means something around here because San
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Francisco keeps.
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  Speaker 3: Hanging around and hanging around.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, but it wasn't at Philip rivers expense or at
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: his fault. Anyways, he coming off the couch, he looked
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: okay against Seahawks, even though he didn't do anything special.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't put up great numbers.
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  Speaker 1: He just yeah, he'll put up like one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: thirty yards or.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he just dinked and dunked. But kept him
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: in the game. I mean, they were they had a
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: chance all the way down to the basically down to
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: the end until that little tipped pick that he threw.
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  Speaker 4: But to me, it was a good showing for a
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: guy who hasn't been in an NFL game, going against
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: a vaunted defense and you know, a team that is
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: right now, you know, arguably the best team in the NFL.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: So it was good. Now, you give him a full
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: week of practice.
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  Speaker 4: And he comes out and I mean, he was good
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: last night. He did end up having one interception that
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: was not real great, and Troy Aikman was basically blaming
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: it on the tight end that he turned his head
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  Speaker 4: too quickly, which gives a linebacker no reason to respect
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: him going past him.
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  Speaker 3: I would imagine there's some truth to that.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: It also was not a great I mean, you got
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: to see the guys right there now. He did break
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  Speaker 4: on it, made a good play pick six, and that
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: kind of was the end of the end. But it
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: does bring up the question I heard on the way
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: in from LeVar and Brady and Jonas. I heard them
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: talking about do you think he wants to come back now?
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: Because he afterwards he was talking about how fun it?
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: You know, it's hard because they've lost and so I'm
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: just gonna sit there and go, gosh, this is daggum.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: This is great because you lost both games and you
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: came in hoping to be able to right the ship
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  Speaker 4: from the downward trajectory that they've been going on, uh
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: and get him into the playoffs, and and you haven't
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: done it. Now you've went against the Seahawks and the Niners.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like you had some soft landing. You didn't
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: do it. But at the same time, he wanted to
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: express how that's been fun for him to come out
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: and you know, he's he's said in interviews, how what
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: if I got there and I popped my achilles my
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: first you know, first time I dropped back like somebody
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: about his age has done before. What if I go
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: out there and to throw a bunch of interceptions and
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: just fall flat on my face.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Well he hasn't done that. In two games.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: He's went out there and performed well, much better after
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: a week of practice than he did even the you know,
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: basically coming into the building, putting his jersey on and
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: going out there strapping it up against the Seahawks. So,
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, some people are like, shit, is he gonna
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: come back? I think the idea of if he comes back,
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: he's not going to come back if Daniel Jones is
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: going to be there, right And I don't think he's
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: I don't think any teams like you know what that's
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: that's who is our starter. Yeah, because he's getting away
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: with it right now. There was one play yesterday that
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: the blitzer got in there and kind of hit him
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: a little bit low and missed him. I think he
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: pulled off a little bit because he wasn't going to
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: get there in time, and so he kind of pulled
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: off and just bumped his leg and he tipped over
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: like an old man.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: And I get that feeling. I understand your your feeling.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: There going down.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: And so I don't see it as something that he's
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: going to come out of retirement. I think he probably
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: rode off into the sunset knowing that his best days
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: were behind him. And yet this was one of those
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: you know, a friend calls, Yeah, the situation is comfortable enough.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Really, there's nothing bad.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, injury could happen, but aside from that, an
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: injury can happen when you're home, you know, walking down
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: your stairs, but you know, more.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Likely in an NFL game than walking down your stairs,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: I assume.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: But injuries can happen, so aside from an injury, he's
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: not going to taint his career. And yet he had
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: the opportunity to write the ship. What if he came
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: in and beat the Seahawks in this first start and
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: then beat and then all of a sudden they make
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: the after he gets to make a playoff run, it
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: would have been music.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Or a movie work.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, for sure.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: So I but I don't see him coming back. I
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: don't see him, you know. I think he's probably enjoying
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: the fact that he's getting to play again, you know,
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: after he probably had written it off like well that's done.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: You know, since he coaches that he can still do it.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he does, and he does.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: He definitely he's better than some of the quarterbacks are
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: out there, even at forty four years old. He's he's
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: better than some of the guys that these guys are
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: having to run out there. But he's not going to
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: come back and play for free. He's not gonna Definitely,
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: I don't think he would come back and be a backup.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: So we shall see.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: I think the old man Rivers is you know, probably
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: a couple more games and then he'll ride off into
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: the sunset again. But pretty impressive showing for an old
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: dude to come off the couch and do.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: What he did.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: All right, On the other side, we're going to get
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: to talk to Greg Bell. We'll find out about the
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: injuries that were sustained. We'll find out what the Seahawks
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: are thinking, how he's feeling about them going up against
• 36:52
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