Latest / The Huddle / 08/07/26 - Hour 1
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- 0:00Speaker 1: On, you got Drew Wilson, Bill schmid armand sorry in
- 0:03Speaker 1: the birthday. Boy, what everybody who's a member of the
- 0:09Speaker 1: five o'clock club, we're gathered today.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Just chop it up and have some.
- 0:14Speaker 1: Fun for the next three hours and get you set
- 0:16Speaker 1: for a very glorious weekend in the good Land. You
- 0:19Speaker 1: got family Night at Lambeau. Tonight, you got Brewers and Twins,
- 0:21Speaker 1: with the Brewers winning their series, not just splitting, winning
- 0:26Speaker 1: their series against the Pirate. Yesterday afternoon, Oh baby, we
- 0:29Speaker 1: had first our first taste of professional tackle football, and
- 0:32Speaker 1: for those who waited till the end ended up being
- 0:34Speaker 1: a good finish.
- 0:35Speaker 3: My goodness, did it live up to the hype there
- 0:37Speaker 3: in Canton, Ohio there Drew Goodness.
- 0:39Speaker 2: I don't know what hype was.
- 0:40Speaker 3: I was gonna say, whatever the hype was, it exceeded
- 0:43Speaker 3: all of the hype. With my boy Haynes King and
- 0:46Speaker 3: the Yellow Jackets stinging those Cardinals King and the Carson Becks.
- 0:51Speaker 2: Yeah, Beck was good.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Micha Lafleur's team didn't look that overmatched or unprepared.
- 0:58Speaker 3: Listen, there were six straight scoring drives to cap off
- 1:01Speaker 3: the first half. About as good as you can get
- 1:03Speaker 3: into the fourth quarter. Phenomenal. They're cycling in Hall of
- 1:07Speaker 3: Famers and in between each one, Melissa Stark had to
- 1:10Speaker 3: keep throwing it back to Mike Trico because these.
- 1:12Speaker 2: Dang teams kept playing well and scoring.
- 1:15Speaker 3: They were prepared for theftastic game that we usually get.
- 1:18Speaker 3: It kept interrupting interview hour in the talk show that
- 1:21Speaker 3: was happening there during the game at Tom Benson Hall
- 1:23Speaker 3: of Fame Stadium, and the under was cooked by halftime.
- 1:25Speaker 3: So you weren't really mad about it. Well you were
- 1:28Speaker 3: mad about it, but you got over it and processed
- 1:30Speaker 3: it quickly if you had that one. And yeah, well
- 1:33Speaker 3: it's fun to see some action, right with some football man,
- 1:36Speaker 3: My boy, Haines King. I enjoyed watching him a lot
- 1:38Speaker 3: playing for Georgia Tech. Now much different, Haynes King. You
- 1:41Speaker 3: got to watch for the Carolina Panthers last night. I
- 1:43Speaker 3: don't know I ever saw him throw the ball thirty
- 1:45Speaker 3: four times in college, and the way that he played
- 1:47Speaker 3: last night, they probably got himself a couple more opportunities.
- 1:51Speaker 3: So there were some good beet balls. Carson Beck was
- 1:53Speaker 3: sharp blue past his number.
- 1:55Speaker 2: That was. That was a fun game to start off
- 1:57Speaker 2: the NFL's slate.
- 1:59Speaker 3: Now, all preseason games are gonna be that good, right, No,
- 2:02Speaker 3: the Packers.
- 2:03Speaker 2: The Packers got no way to live up.
- 2:05Speaker 1: The Packers got next and they're going to Pittsburgh on Thursday,
- 2:07Speaker 1: and that will be the next game that people see.
- 2:09Speaker 3: Well, the thing is we always say like, oh, well,
- 2:11Speaker 3: this is preseason, so the offenses will well, the defense
- 2:15Speaker 3: is a the same way. Like you could argue that
- 2:17Speaker 3: the logic works both ways. Like if you think the preseason,
- 2:20Speaker 3: you know, is gonna be worse because the offenses are
- 2:23Speaker 3: you know, lower level players, that's true the defense too,
- 2:25Speaker 3: so you never know what you'll get. Not I don't
- 2:28Speaker 3: even know that it's the talent thing arm and it's
- 2:29Speaker 3: just the instinct nature. I mean, these teams have only
- 2:31Speaker 3: been playing now together for a week and a half
- 2:34Speaker 3: and in all reality, it's probably five padded practices that
- 2:38Speaker 3: they've had to go out and play a game. When
- 2:40Speaker 3: you're just still learning that whole scheme and system, you're
- 2:43Speaker 3: not gonna have that kind of sharpness, especially for an offense. Generally,
- 2:49Speaker 3: it's the defense playing allowing the offense to trying to
- 2:52Speaker 3: play some catchup for the first couple of weeks of
- 2:54Speaker 3: the season. So that was that was very very cool
- 2:57Speaker 3: to see last night and a good way to start
- 2:59Speaker 3: it off in the twenty twenty sixth season. That just
- 3:02Speaker 3: might be one of the most entertaining ones we have
- 3:04Speaker 3: ever seen. Maybe mister Kingles supplant Jordan for the Haines
- 3:07Speaker 3: endorsement deal. Now maybe he'll get an underwear deal after
- 3:10Speaker 3: that type of game.
- 3:11Speaker 2: Haynes, Wait, do we put our Hanes on you? Yeah?
- 3:13Speaker 3: That's right. That that was a big one. When I
- 3:15Speaker 3: grew up then it was like never uncomfortable. So hey man,
- 3:19Speaker 3: you gotta think of marketing all the time. Weren't they
- 3:21Speaker 3: the first ones to come up with the idea of
- 3:23Speaker 3: like screen slash lasering the tag instead of having a
- 3:27Speaker 3: tag that rubs the back of your neck?
- 3:29Speaker 2: Yeah? This Why did it take so long for people
- 3:32Speaker 2: to think about that? Like you know what I mean? Question? Yeah, well,
- 3:34Speaker 2: then where would your mom write your name? That's a
- 3:36Speaker 2: great point, that's right, Arman underwear? Yeah, where else? Was
- 3:41Speaker 2: going to Armenian camp? Yeah, you're about I haven't labels?
- 3:45Speaker 3: And also he said, when I grew up, what do
- 3:47Speaker 3: you mean, young fellow?
- 3:51Speaker 1: August seventh, Arman's birthday today, there will be cake. If
- 3:55Speaker 1: I just put on uh on the X formerly known
- 3:58Speaker 1: as Twitter. If you don't listen to and wish armor
- 4:00Speaker 1: and happy birthday, you hate America.
- 4:02Speaker 2: I love that, come on, I love the stakes for
- 4:06Speaker 2: that eye, but I do appreciation. Well, we got to
- 4:08Speaker 2: do something right.
- 4:08Speaker 3: So the first shot at a treat today, I was
- 4:10Speaker 3: gonna I roll to the drive through to you know,
- 4:12Speaker 3: I was like, I'll get a breakfast McDonald's and they
- 4:14Speaker 3: don't switch to breakfast till five or four am. I
- 4:18Speaker 3: got there before breakfast switch. You got there before, I said.
- 4:21Speaker 3: When I was, I did I woke up early for
- 4:23Speaker 3: and then I said to me, because it's a birthday,
- 4:25Speaker 3: I was gonna say, very exciting.
- 4:27Speaker 2: It's his birthday.
- 4:27Speaker 3: I remember he had it after part time years ago
- 4:30Speaker 3: and they were switching it at three. So I was
- 4:32Speaker 3: gonna say I explicitly remember it being three thirty because
- 4:36Speaker 3: that was one of the moves that somebody had not
- 4:40Speaker 3: in fire long enough so that somebody would be able
- 4:43Speaker 3: to go and get McDonald's breakfast day before you asked like, uh,
- 4:46Speaker 3: I don't have a quick trip. That's twenty four hours
- 4:48Speaker 3: on my way. So that's why I didn't go to
- 4:50Speaker 3: a quick trip. I would do that always, but I
- 4:52Speaker 3: just said, what the heck, I'll roll through. But even me,
- 4:55Speaker 3: I can't bring myself to, you know, to put down
- 4:59Speaker 3: a couple of chickens at foy. I just can't do it.
- 5:01Speaker 3: So I was like, all right, I'll just get a coffee.
- 5:03Speaker 3: But that that would surprise me. You went without and
- 5:05Speaker 3: without any hotcakes for your for your birthday. Well yeah,
- 5:08Speaker 3: but that's ok We're gonna rectify that the word door
- 5:10Speaker 3: dashing this son of again.
- 5:11Speaker 2: Well no, that's okay.
- 5:12Speaker 3: We don't have to because the Culvers has the uh
- 5:14Speaker 3: the Fried Pickleberger now apparently.
- 5:16Speaker 2: So maybe I'll do that ad for the show.
- 5:18Speaker 3: You know. So I'm just thinking about, you know, a
- 5:20Speaker 3: little treat for the birthday on a birthday boy, Like what,
- 5:24Speaker 3: I like that?
- 5:25Speaker 2: Because I'm a dude, I didn't get you anything. Yeah,
- 5:28Speaker 2: I thought about it. I actually did think about it.
- 5:32Speaker 2: Please if you guys did that, I would have been
- 5:33Speaker 2: like upset, like but.
- 5:35Speaker 1: I'll share with you the text we got on the
- 5:37Speaker 1: Nicolay Lotto Com talking text on eight seven seven seven
- 5:39Speaker 1: nine three from Ronda in the seven one five he
- 5:43Speaker 1: helped me. Ronda Ronda hit us up and you know
- 5:47Speaker 1: she she wants you to know that you can tell
- 5:50Speaker 1: Lenna that she has a monarch butterfly named after her
- 5:54Speaker 1: because Ronda raises butterflies. Oh my god, said the first
- 5:58Speaker 1: males she gets will be named after us. And Lenna
- 6:02Speaker 1: is the first female monarch butterfly.
- 6:04Speaker 2: That's amazing. She said.
- 6:05Speaker 1: She didn't want to use talking text line, but she's
- 6:07Speaker 1: not on X. We take it, Ronanda. Thanks what a
- 6:11Speaker 1: wonderful thing. Thank you for doing that, Lena. That's exciting.
- 6:14Speaker 3: Yuys. She's getting into butterflies and they fly around and
- 6:17Speaker 3: monarchs are pretty.
- 6:17Speaker 2: And I'll like to state butterfly. We have it. I
- 6:20Speaker 2: think it is. I'll check that.
- 6:21Speaker 3: Out state butterfly.
- 6:24Speaker 2: Uh, it is Rondo.
- 6:26Speaker 3: We saw at or I saw at uh at rain
- 6:29Speaker 3: Inskie Field. She didn't mention that I was supposed to
- 6:31Speaker 3: say hi to Armin for her, and I did forget
- 6:33Speaker 3: at that moment. I remember now, I remember at this point,
- 6:36Speaker 3: and Wisconsin does not even official state butterfly.
- 6:38Speaker 2: The lawmakers have.
- 6:39Speaker 3: Made legislative pushes to designate the monarch butterfly. Wisconsin state
- 6:43Speaker 3: butterfly is tefinitely the best one.
- 6:46Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, out of all of them.
- 6:48Speaker 3: It's definitely the coolest one here that you could bust into.
- 6:51Speaker 3: If you're the little hungry caterpillar. Absolutely agree, little hungry
- 6:53Speaker 3: get a good one.
- 6:54Speaker 1: You'll have to tell Lena float like a butterfly, sting
- 6:56Speaker 1: like a bee, which.
- 6:59Speaker 2: I can't see.
- 7:00Speaker 1: So it's Armor's birthday. We're going to be hanging out.
- 7:02Speaker 1: We got plenty to discuss today. There was a packers
- 7:04Speaker 1: practice that was supposed to be a walkthrough and it wasn't.
- 7:08Speaker 1: They didn't let the folks in, so Billy and Wayne
- 7:11Speaker 1: didn't broadcast.
- 7:12Speaker 2: But that's in part because they were doing the trickery.
- 7:15Speaker 2: They were putting in trick plays.
- 7:16Speaker 1: And they didn't want anybody to see they're putting in
- 7:19Speaker 1: the fun stuff. It was installing trick plays. Now, Billy
- 7:21Speaker 1: as a player, those plays are fun to practice, aren't they? Like, Yes,
- 7:27Speaker 1: the triple flea flickers and stuff like that.
- 7:28Speaker 2: Those I remember, those.
- 7:30Speaker 3: Installs are fun. Like It's like, let's have some fun
- 7:33Speaker 3: that won't be that won't be a grinding practice. That
- 7:36Speaker 3: will be one that you think of a smile for
- 7:38Speaker 3: a while and then you also have into the back
- 7:41Speaker 3: of your mind.
- 7:41Speaker 2: I like they do it early.
- 7:42Speaker 3: Because now Lafleur can get it brought up to him
- 7:46Speaker 3: for the next you know, five six, seven weeks.
- 7:48Speaker 2: Hey, coach, remember that tackle eligible touchdown play? Why do
- 7:52Speaker 2: we run that on the goal line? Hey?
- 7:54Speaker 3: Why are we not running the double reverse flea flicker
- 7:57Speaker 3: quadruple double lateral that I threw into the Akron offense
- 8:01Speaker 3: for the first ride of the year. You get to
- 8:03Speaker 3: play some of these and then you get to run
- 8:05Speaker 3: through more of them during walk through every single week.
- 8:07Speaker 2: That's fun.
- 8:07Speaker 3: The coaches I remember that really were in their bag always,
- 8:10Speaker 3: and I know I'm forgetting something, but for some reason,
- 8:12Speaker 3: Steve Spurrier is the first one old ball coach. He
- 8:15Speaker 3: was really good at the trick plays. He tried to
- 8:17Speaker 3: make that part of it. They had the most creative ones,
- 8:19Speaker 3: and those are always fun to go back in YouTube.
- 8:21Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 8:22Speaker 3: I mean, the Packers were never a big, big trick
- 8:24Speaker 3: play team. Although we've had our moments, that's for sure.
- 8:26Speaker 3: We've tried some stuff. I remember Aaron trying to throw
- 8:30Speaker 3: a bullet to Julius Peppers when he was split out
- 8:32Speaker 3: wide and that didn't work.
- 8:34Speaker 2: That costs as a touchdown. It like knocked off his
- 8:36Speaker 2: hands and was a pick.
- 8:37Speaker 3: I was gonna say the boxiari one is maybe as
- 8:41Speaker 3: bad as they can get and as disappointing as it
- 8:43Speaker 3: could get.
- 8:44Speaker 2: But you're right.
- 8:44Speaker 3: Spurrier and the Gators used to be used to be
- 8:47Speaker 3: pulling out some stuff, fun stuff like the hitting ball.
- 8:49Speaker 3: I remember when it was like a return where five
- 8:51Speaker 3: guys were getting the huddle and one would come out
- 8:53Speaker 3: with the ball. But that also happens, and probably to
- 8:56Speaker 3: Drew's point, Steve Spurrier, former Heisman Trophy right player, turn coach,
- 9:02Speaker 3: He's like, we need to spice this thing up and
- 9:04Speaker 3: keep these guys dialed in. Let's throw in a couple
- 9:07Speaker 3: of reverse laterals and find some ways to have some
- 9:09Speaker 3: more fun.
- 9:10Speaker 1: Yep, continue hit us up eight seven seven, seven nine
- 9:13Speaker 1: four one ninety seven.
- 9:15Speaker 2: Three any version of that.
- 9:16Speaker 3: For spring training, we're gonna work on the hidden ball
- 9:18Speaker 3: trick here, We're gonna work on somebody.
- 9:21Speaker 2: Uh came.
- 9:23Speaker 1: Everything they do on the backfields early morning is pretty
- 9:25Speaker 1: much anonymous because there's like ten people standing around watching that.
- 9:28Speaker 2: That's true.
- 9:29Speaker 1: Not like, you know, those workouts are not like you know,
- 9:32Speaker 1: packers practice well good PfP is not riveting.
- 9:36Speaker 2: You know, there's nothing really uh there's no, there's no.
- 9:39Speaker 1: They don't have the drama of the one on ones
- 9:40Speaker 1: now like harder to stay awake.
- 9:42Speaker 2: The first live.
- 9:43Speaker 1: BP, when the position players arrive and the hitters throw
- 9:46Speaker 1: to them, that's usually fun to watch only because like,
- 9:49Speaker 1: the hitters haven't seen one hundred miles an hour and
- 9:51Speaker 1: in several months a while, like they're always overmatched, and
- 9:53Speaker 1: it's kind of fun to watch.
- 9:55Speaker 3: I also think the spring training visual and audio bit
- 9:59Speaker 3: that you can never get enough of is simply the
- 10:02Speaker 3: ball hitting the glove on the first day, oh yeah,
- 10:04Speaker 3: and then on day three it's like, wait, we gotta
- 10:06Speaker 3: go watch these guys throw again, right, all right?
- 10:11Speaker 2: It quickly we'll get into that.
- 10:12Speaker 3: And I would I wondered if they would wait a
- 10:15Speaker 3: little bit ptil you know, cam gets a little bit
- 10:18Speaker 3: more monotonous to throw this stuff in.
- 10:19Speaker 2: But again, tonight is family night.
- 10:22Speaker 3: This used to be the old delineation of camp's not
- 10:24Speaker 3: fully over, but camp's kind of over. Now we're moving
- 10:27Speaker 3: into preseason week and game weeks and everything gets a
- 10:30Speaker 3: little bit different.
- 10:30Speaker 2: Yep.
- 10:31Speaker 1: The pace will pick up a little bit, man, just
- 10:33Speaker 1: a little bit, and then you realize and then they yet,
- 10:35Speaker 1: like usually you get ten minutes into the first preseason
- 10:38Speaker 1: you're like, all right, when is the real football card?
- 10:40Speaker 2: Yeah, so when do we get this thing on?
- 10:42Speaker 3: Well, and then that that's what I thought we had
- 10:43Speaker 3: yesterday when you had no points in the first quarter
- 10:45Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden the second quarter and
- 10:47Speaker 3: the regular season woke up.
- 10:48Speaker 2: It's uh.
- 10:48Speaker 3: I'm excited for what whatever you can end up seeing tonight,
- 10:52Speaker 3: but also excited to see some of the young Packers
- 10:55Speaker 3: drew as we've talked about them, flourishing and growing up.
- 10:58Speaker 3: A lot of them, like Jordan, love for family night
- 11:00Speaker 3: as a dad, get to have that fireworks Blazers show
- 11:03Speaker 3: after with the little one as long as the the
- 11:05Speaker 3: headphones are working and it's not too loud. This is
- 11:09Speaker 3: a developing storyline. I think for the twenty twenty six
- 11:13Speaker 3: grown up Packers or maturing Packers, they've picked out and
- 11:17Speaker 3: grabbed which of the youngsters that they've wanted to now
- 11:21Speaker 3: build into their core. While they're older on the field,
- 11:24Speaker 3: they're still maybe young in age, they're no longer the
- 11:26Speaker 3: oldest youngest team in football, and it feels like they're
- 11:29Speaker 3: buying into that part.
- 11:30Speaker 2: So tonight's a nice little step here.
- 11:32Speaker 3: The first one and whenever you we get our friend
- 11:35Speaker 3: Wayne Larvy on the on the trybox with the game
- 11:39Speaker 3: on one, and then him and Larry mccaeron with the
- 11:41Speaker 3: box cams that we'll get tonight.
- 11:43Speaker 2: I'm very excited for that.
- 11:44Speaker 3: It's like the original cool room Altamate broadcast type of thing.
- 11:47Speaker 3: I do enjoy that a lot, and it'll be good
- 11:48Speaker 3: to see, uh just see, just see the guys in
- 11:51Speaker 3: the field again. And you're right, Billy, I think you
- 11:53Speaker 3: you know, to keep that theme of time passing and age.
- 11:56Speaker 3: Jordan Love now it's been it's been a long enough
- 11:58Speaker 3: time we're gonna call him a veteran now. I think
- 12:00Speaker 3: at this point, I mean, Jordan Love is now a
- 12:02Speaker 3: veteran player, veteran starter, and this is around the time
- 12:06Speaker 3: we're expecting a next type of step, type of year
- 12:09Speaker 3: and if you get it, you know, the packers success
- 12:12Speaker 3: at high levels will directly correlate to that.
- 12:14Speaker 2: So I think he's been really good in recent years.
- 12:17Speaker 3: Can he take that next step a healthy receiving corps
- 12:19Speaker 3: having main guys.
- 12:21Speaker 2: We'll see.
- 12:21Speaker 3: But I agree, Billy, I think you know now that
- 12:24Speaker 3: he's a dad. Now he's one of the older guys
- 12:27Speaker 3: now in the locker room, I'm gonna say he's a veteran.
- 12:29Speaker 2: I'm gonna say he's gonna give him the v world. Well,
- 12:31Speaker 2: he's the longest tenured package. Yeah he is.
- 12:33Speaker 3: Yeah, Jordan Love, Yeah, longest tenured. He's not the oldest packer,
- 12:37Speaker 3: the longest tenured.
- 12:38Speaker 1: Well, I look at this as kind of like it's
- 12:40Speaker 1: his senior year back in the old college construction. This
- 12:43Speaker 1: his fourth year as a starter. You got the command
- 12:45Speaker 1: of the system. You're the big man on campus. Hey, okay,
- 12:49Speaker 1: senior year, let's go.
- 12:51Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is where the three year Now again,
- 12:54Speaker 3: he's going into year four as a starter, So the
- 12:57Speaker 3: stuff on the field isn't new, and this is probably
- 12:59Speaker 3: where more of the mental reps and the bank stuff
- 13:03Speaker 3: that he has three years as a backup, this is
- 13:05Speaker 3: where maybe some of that can also come more to fruition.
- 13:08Speaker 3: They talked about it in the offseason, Lafleur and him
- 13:10Speaker 3: kind of stripping down the offense, doing a little bit
- 13:12Speaker 3: more of how Lafleur and Aaron went through saw dissected
- 13:16Speaker 3: what they liked, what they didn't like, what were some
- 13:18Speaker 3: of the hits that they always were able to go
- 13:20Speaker 3: back to and that kind of trust is something that
- 13:25Speaker 3: only happens when you've been on the team for that
- 13:26Speaker 3: long and you know and you're trusted with that kind
- 13:29Speaker 3: of football knowledge that he ends up having some institutional
- 13:33Speaker 3: knowledge of the game. So I think he's at a
- 13:36Speaker 3: much different spot in his personal life to have a
- 13:40Speaker 3: big year. Now we need to see it come to
- 13:42Speaker 3: promotion on the field.
- 13:44Speaker 1: Just a corollary to this, like he doesn't come up
- 13:46Speaker 1: when people are debating the best quarterbacks. And I heard
- 13:50Speaker 1: guys doing that yesterday on a national show, and I
- 13:52Speaker 1: just I was struck, and I'm jaded. I admit it,
- 13:55Speaker 1: and I know it's tissed the season and everything, But
- 13:58Speaker 1: is there anything dumber than arguing about your rankings of
- 14:02Speaker 1: who the best quarterbacks are. It's like it's, oh, if
- 14:06Speaker 1: you'd have told me like last year, I wouldn't have said,
- 14:08Speaker 1: and then this year, like it's you're making the case
- 14:11Speaker 1: for Josh Allen us the best, and like Mahomes is
- 14:13Speaker 1: coming off of injury and Stafford. Let's just say that
- 14:16Speaker 1: there's ten guys who are really, really good that are
- 14:18Speaker 1: a tier above and they could all win the Super Bowl.
- 14:20Speaker 1: And if they win the Super Bowl, then suddenly we're
- 14:22Speaker 1: gonna say they're the best.
- 14:23Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the debate, Drew that the amount of
- 14:25Speaker 2: those guys in the tiers of that are I think
- 14:27Speaker 2: the biggest discrepancy and the biggest argument because some people
- 14:31Speaker 2: are now the biggest. The hot one has been where
- 14:34Speaker 2: does Lamar Jackson fall into that line? You would have
- 14:35Speaker 2: said a two time MVP would always be.
- 14:37Speaker 3: One of those guys you win because of but now
- 14:40Speaker 3: after a number of injuries, a lot of people.
- 14:42Speaker 2: Are doubting that he's that same kind of guy.
- 14:44Speaker 3: I eat all of it up, but I also have
- 14:46Speaker 3: a sick, twisted love affair with the league.
- 14:48Speaker 2: I just think that that argument, though, is like kind
- 14:50Speaker 2: of silly to me.
- 14:51Speaker 3: Well, okay, but Jalen Hurts gets ranked like in the
- 14:54Speaker 3: late teens, near the fifteen to twenty range.
- 14:56Speaker 2: Don't anybody in that grow.
- 14:58Speaker 3: Any of that group, He's the only guy that's actually
- 15:00Speaker 3: one one sure, So if there would be the well,
- 15:03Speaker 3: we can all agree that there's eight guys that you
- 15:05Speaker 3: can win with, eight guys that you could probably win
- 15:08Speaker 3: one because of, we can't agree that one of the
- 15:10Speaker 3: only guys to be able to win one over the
- 15:11Speaker 3: last decade is one of the dudes instead, it's justin
- 15:16Speaker 3: Herbert where we're finally believing Kissy Cassey Boo boo over
- 15:20Speaker 3: on the l A Charters training camp field is going
- 15:23Speaker 3: to be the guy to lead the entire AFC.
- 15:26Speaker 2: My god, all right? Which clip would embarrass you most?
- 15:31Speaker 2: That one?
- 15:32Speaker 1: Madison Beer ca noodling on the on the field, like
- 15:35Speaker 1: if he had done, you know, in the parking lot
- 15:37Speaker 1: or something, but on the field right noodling with he's
- 15:40Speaker 1: with Madison Beer.
- 15:41Speaker 2: Would you rather be known for that clip? Yeah?
- 15:44Speaker 1: Or would you rather be known as Cooper Pratt getting
- 15:47Speaker 1: hit in the nads by a follow through on a throat?
- 15:50Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd rather.
- 15:51Speaker 3: I'd rather get hit in the notes instead of having
- 15:55Speaker 3: mad Beer.
- 15:56Speaker 2: Madison Beer caressing me and.
- 16:00Speaker 3: Can't I can't get my hair pushed behind my ear
- 16:03Speaker 3: on the football field.
- 16:04Speaker 2: What what are we doing? I mean, I'm not I'm not.
- 16:09Speaker 3: Well, that's the part. It is a family. It is
- 16:12Speaker 3: a family.
- 16:12Speaker 2: Happening in Green Bay.
- 16:14Speaker 3: I actually it would after every practice that's a family
- 16:17Speaker 3: night maybe. I mean after after every practice is a
- 16:20Speaker 3: full on take care over by the family area and
- 16:22Speaker 3: it's a phenomenal time. Everyone's tackling playing around having a
- 16:25Speaker 3: good time. Nobody is sitting there like it's the Rocks
- 16:29Speaker 3: over at Summer Field and you're hanging out with your
- 16:31Speaker 3: seventeen year old girlfriend.
- 16:33Speaker 2: I just yeah, I just can't. I cannot believe that.
- 16:37Speaker 3: I get it, Billy, but not many people with Madison Beery,
- 16:40Speaker 3: there's exactly Maybe that's the way she makes you feel
- 16:42Speaker 3: like you're seventeen again. Like you said, on the Rocks
- 16:44Speaker 3: and Summers, that's the greatest visual by that, that's the
- 16:46Speaker 3: greatest reference. That imagery. Just it's perfect because everyone gets it, Okay,
- 16:50Speaker 3: but one on the field.
- 16:51Speaker 2: I gotta agree. It's a little bit like you.
- 16:54Speaker 3: Know, let's go back, let's go back to the separator deal. Okay,
- 16:58Speaker 3: she's significantly that much better looking than any other football
- 17:01Speaker 3: player's girlfriend of life.
- 17:02Speaker 2: No, that's a good point. I mean you're right about that.
- 17:05Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, man, I'd rather have.
- 17:06Speaker 1: Those rankings and then talk about a nausea in the
- 17:09Speaker 1: top ten quarterbacks, I don't know.
- 17:11Speaker 3: I don't know what we're doing your home if I
- 17:13Speaker 3: was with her, Because eighty four other young ladies that
- 17:16Speaker 3: are standing over here are the ones that people believe
- 17:19Speaker 3: are going to be.
- 17:20Speaker 2: Blind that's a fair point.
- 17:21Speaker 3: I mean they're all yeah in that kind of realm Okay,
- 17:24Speaker 3: that's a fair point.
- 17:24Speaker 2: But like, let's wait, what are the measurables though? What
- 17:27Speaker 2: are the downloads? How many followers does she have? What
- 17:31Speaker 2: are we going there? You know that's true.
- 17:33Speaker 3: We do need numbers on we need the analytics regular
- 17:37Speaker 3: season one or a postseason player.
- 17:38Speaker 2: Who knows.
- 17:39Speaker 3: But I mean, like if you were Berlander and Kate
- 17:41Speaker 3: Upton was doing that way early when they first started dating,
- 17:44Speaker 3: I don't think anyone would have really been like, yeah,
- 17:46Speaker 3: well they would, I mean they would. They would have
- 17:49Speaker 3: was like messing with his hair while he was going
- 17:51Speaker 3: on to the mound. I guess because it was on
- 17:52Speaker 3: the field. That's a good point.
- 17:54Speaker 2: I don't know. This is a tough one, but think
- 17:55Speaker 2: of who his football coaches. I get it.
- 17:58Speaker 3: Jim Harball has it better than him, no buddy. But
- 18:03Speaker 3: Jim Hardball can be weird too. He's slept in people's
- 18:06Speaker 3: trees in front yards to recruit, didn't he.
- 18:08Speaker 2: Yeah, he's weird. The football guy thing with your girlfriends
- 18:15Speaker 2: on the twenty four yard line.
- 18:17Speaker 3: So it was dating the homecoming coin. That's a football
- 18:19Speaker 3: guy thing, is it? And where do you do that?
- 18:22Speaker 3: Where in every song does that happen under the bleachers? Okay,
- 18:25Speaker 3: I'm we're not sitting interlocking legs like you're Vrabel and
- 18:29Speaker 3: Rassini in Arizona at the l Dante pushing your hair
- 18:33Speaker 3: behind your ears.
- 18:34Speaker 2: That's where you're supposed to do it, not on the
- 18:36Speaker 2: cu It was weird.
- 18:38Speaker 3: Twenty one hundred dollars a night bungalow, and that's where
- 18:41Speaker 3: you can go through that one.
- 18:43Speaker 2: It was Herbert already won a super Bowl. You think
- 18:45Speaker 2: anyone would look see that's the thing, not a super Bowl.
- 18:50Speaker 3: How about you don't play the worst game of your
- 18:52Speaker 3: career every playoff game you play. I know he does
- 18:54Speaker 3: get a pun does get If this had been on
- 18:57Speaker 3: earthed back in the day, in the prime of Tom
- 18:59Speaker 3: and you sell people like, oh well, Brady Lucky go
- 19:02Speaker 3: that that bastard. Now, I wonder if Brady would have
- 19:05Speaker 3: been would have been firing some of this stuff up,
- 19:07Speaker 3: or if she would have been trying this he would
- 19:08Speaker 3: have been divorced a long time ago.
- 19:10Speaker 2: Maybe and and marry her what her whatever, But you know, whatever.
- 19:16Speaker 3: It was that was, You then have that weird, uncomfortable
- 19:19Speaker 3: Father's Day post that hits on Good Morning America.
- 19:22Speaker 2: My goodness may have buzzar. So yeah, anyway, we didn't
- 19:26Speaker 2: get to watch backers training camp. The scribes were there.
- 19:29Speaker 2: JJ Watt was there on the sideline watching. Yeah, I
- 19:32Speaker 2: saw that. That was cool.
- 19:33Speaker 1: Yeah, and with his pops I think, and they were
- 19:35Speaker 1: they were checking it out taking it in.
- 19:37Speaker 3: So for all his seat for his CBS games that
- 19:39Speaker 3: he's got that first game and their first game.
- 19:41Speaker 1: Of the year, absolutely on that seat exactly.
- 19:47Speaker 2: We Wisconsin, Wisconsin. Yeah, good job Armanos the birthday boy. Yeah,
- 19:57Speaker 2: he was preparing for the first broadcast because he's going
- 19:59Speaker 2: to be on it.
- 20:00Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because yeah, Well there's a few bleary eye
- 20:03Speaker 3: drivers out there that weren't getting that.
- 20:05Speaker 2: Your voice of the voiceless, all right, the voice of
- 20:08Speaker 2: the voiceless, I'm the.
- 20:09Speaker 3: One out there that's all right, President, we didn't get
- 20:13Speaker 3: anything working. We're gonna call you the voice of the
- 20:16Speaker 3: voiceless for the next two hours of seven seven Madison beer. Yeah,
- 20:20Speaker 3: eight seven seven seven nine four one seven three, we'll
- 20:23Speaker 3: talk about the biggest news story yesterday that nobody knows
- 20:26Speaker 3: about yet outside of our inner circle.
- 20:27Speaker 1: We'll talk about that next. You're in the huddle Fox
- 20:30Speaker 1: Sports Radio Wisconsin shang his own birthday party, The Voice
- 20:37Speaker 1: of the voiceless, the man of the people, the champion
- 20:40Speaker 1: of the blue collar.
- 20:41Speaker 3: Oh wait, that was and that was right in your wheelhouse. Uh,
- 20:45Speaker 3: in the club. I mean that was when you were
- 20:47Speaker 3: actually going to the club, man.
- 20:49Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?
- 20:49Speaker 3: In the middle of college that it was one of
- 20:51Speaker 3: the bank biggest bangers of all time. That and a
- 20:54Speaker 3: couple other ones by guys that are now in jail.
- 20:57Speaker 2: So we don't we don't listen to Thillos anymore.
- 20:58Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean Curtis had a couple of bangers
- 21:00Speaker 3: that I mean, Now, when you were an album are
- 21:02Speaker 3: you in college? It was a lot easier to be playing.
- 21:04Speaker 3: But when you were when when you were in fourth
- 21:06Speaker 3: grade and I was I was rocking in the club
- 21:08Speaker 3: or just a little bit. That made it a little
- 21:11Speaker 3: bit stranger song to listen to when you're ten, when
- 21:12Speaker 3: you're twenty, it was hitting a lot. Oh yeah, it
- 21:14Speaker 3: was different when you were in college and magic stick
- 21:17Speaker 3: and candy shop and uh, you know, I told the
- 21:20Speaker 3: girl wants tormative songs, I said, fifties got twenty one questions?
- 21:23Speaker 3: Can I ask you twenty two oh.
- 21:26Speaker 1: Little lines, it was you, and then Madison Beer said
- 21:29Speaker 1: get away from me, arman.
- 21:30Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, though. You got to take those
- 21:32Speaker 2: type of shots.
- 21:32Speaker 3: And it's Madison Beer and you know she wants to
- 21:35Speaker 3: cuddle through on the twenty two yards.
- 21:37Speaker 2: You know, I wanted to take you to the candy
- 21:38Speaker 2: shop in the red zone over there. Other I uh, yeah.
- 21:41Speaker 1: I have no animus for Justin Herbert because he did
- 21:44Speaker 1: very well for himself in that department.
- 21:46Speaker 2: Yeah, so congratulations. Well in the animis is the playoffs.
- 21:50Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not talking about the football thing, come on, yeah, no,
- 21:54Speaker 2: and congratulations to you. I just there's there's some things
- 21:57Speaker 2: that we gotta we gotta not do.
- 22:00Speaker 3: On the football field that maybe maybe that is wanta
- 22:04Speaker 3: be macho hardo football guy.
- 22:07Speaker 2: But let's just take that to them. Let's let's take
- 22:09Speaker 2: that to the.
- 22:10Speaker 3: Is that like, is not like Caleb Williams mom at
- 22:13Speaker 3: USC when he was crying with his mom? Is that
- 22:15Speaker 3: or is that similar to that? Like people were clowning
- 22:18Speaker 3: him a lot. For you, I actually don't think that
- 22:20Speaker 3: was that bad. Like to me, you care about the game, Sure,
- 22:24Speaker 3: I get that's like the worst that's the worst thing.
- 22:26Speaker 3: That one signals. This one is again, it's not a
- 22:29Speaker 3: bad thing, but it's just like U, it's pratty. I
- 22:32Speaker 3: guess what we're doing here allowing that NFL to go
- 22:37Speaker 3: back to the roots of this.
- 22:38Speaker 1: I was talking about my disdain for the age old
- 22:42Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore discussion.
- 22:43Speaker 2: Who's the best? Who are the top five?
- 22:45Speaker 1: Who's your list of the quarterback ratings?
- 22:48Speaker 2: What's your list?
- 22:49Speaker 1: Because and for exhibit A, and I can pretty much
- 22:52Speaker 1: close out and I can the defense can rest, or
- 22:54Speaker 1: the prosecution can rest after this is what tear?
- 22:58Speaker 2: Was Sam Darnold in last year? And what's or is
- 23:00Speaker 2: he in now?
- 23:01Speaker 1: And Sam Donald was probably a bottom third quarterback and
- 23:04Speaker 1: in most of the zeitgeist and most of the popularism,
- 23:07Speaker 1: and he won a damn super Bowl and said, how's
- 23:09Speaker 1: my blank taste? So those rankings like, okay, of the
- 23:13Speaker 1: guys who can win, well, put up a guy in
- 23:14Speaker 1: the great situation with a team. It's a team sport,
- 23:17Speaker 1: but we rate quarterbacks like their individuals, a top a separate.
- 23:21Speaker 2: From the team in some ways.
- 23:24Speaker 1: And to your point, last year or any year, is
- 23:28Speaker 1: there anybody that would take Sam Donald over Lamar Jackson?
- 23:31Speaker 2: On paper and everything, and like who won the super
- 23:34Speaker 2: Bowl last night? Great? That to me is like, why
- 23:37Speaker 2: that is just folly, because I say, there are ten
- 23:39Speaker 2: guys actually proof last year anybody can win a super
- 23:42Speaker 2: Bowl in the right situation. Trent Bilford, guys like that,
- 23:45Speaker 2: there are.
- 23:45Speaker 1: Guys who win them, and we act like we ignore
- 23:49Speaker 1: that part of the equation and we try to ascribe
- 23:52Speaker 1: to them. You know, these mythical in our own mind
- 23:55Speaker 1: rankings because like who's better Matt Stafford or you know,
- 24:00Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Like this year, who would you rather have? Like,
- 24:03Speaker 1: I think either one of them could win a super Bowl,
- 24:04Speaker 1: and I'd take either one of them. Yeah, let's see
- 24:06Speaker 1: who wins, whose team wins. But we gotta have something
- 24:08Speaker 1: to talk about. Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's the first
- 24:12Speaker 1: week in August, and I struggle. I struggle with it.
- 24:14Speaker 1: I love I eat the stuff up, so I totally
- 24:16Speaker 1: get it.
- 24:17Speaker 3: However, I don't know that there's not a lot of
- 24:19Speaker 3: people that are thirsting for the conversation of really Jordan
- 24:22Speaker 3: Love ten and Sam Darnold fourteen, Like you mentioned, one
- 24:25Speaker 3: of the guys just won the champion, Yeah a year ago,
- 24:27Speaker 3: and this guy's sitting tied with Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield
- 24:30Speaker 3: six weeks into the year. Last year, people were saying
- 24:32Speaker 3: was gonna be an MVP candidate. So I think it's
- 24:35Speaker 3: I think it's fascinating. I think it's fun. But I
- 24:36Speaker 3: do understand why people don't like it, and that's why
- 24:39Speaker 3: I've done with it.
- 24:40Speaker 1: That's why it's like to me, the MVP discussions and
- 24:43Speaker 1: stuff like that. People, I got that all the time
- 24:45Speaker 1: about you know, the guys who guys who win the
- 24:48Speaker 1: MVP award and aren't good in the playoffs, like in
- 24:52Speaker 1: baseball especially, like the guys that you vote for and
- 24:54Speaker 1: they're they're the MVP, and then they kind of like, oh,
- 24:56Speaker 1: Barry Bonds, judge, Yeah, Barry Bond's like if he didn't
- 24:58Speaker 1: come through in the playoffs his team didn't win, well, yeah,
- 25:00Speaker 1: is he the MVP? And they're like what are they?
- 25:02Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, then we wouldn't have an MVP
- 25:04Speaker 1: because the coach of the years, whoever wins the championship,
- 25:07Speaker 1: and the MVP is the best player on the best
- 25:09Speaker 1: team and the team that wins the championship.
- 25:10Speaker 2: So let's case cold. So that's why it's a regular
- 25:12Speaker 2: season award.
- 25:13Speaker 1: And that to me, those conversations have more merit when
- 25:17Speaker 1: you're looking back rather than trying to project and look forward,
- 25:21Speaker 1: because like I said, there's like there's ten or maybe
- 25:23Speaker 1: even twelve guys there. You're also a reacting to stuff
- 25:26Speaker 1: that's happening now, Like the tough thing is here. These
- 25:28Speaker 1: guys all might be very different players coming back seven
- 25:30Speaker 1: months later, right, Like this is also ranking off what
- 25:33Speaker 1: you watch them do last year, And what we watched
- 25:35Speaker 1: Sam Darnold do last year for the last nine weeks
- 25:38Speaker 1: was something you hadn't seen him do his entire career.
- 25:40Speaker 1: Turn the ball over five times in nine games.
- 25:43Speaker 2: That that has not been.
- 25:44Speaker 3: Something he's been able to do. One of the reasons
- 25:46Speaker 3: why they were there. And then you know, Drake May
- 25:49Speaker 3: leads the team to the super Bowl, has some of
- 25:51Speaker 3: the best numbers out of anybody in football a year ago.
- 25:54Speaker 3: And then and then you so now people project that
- 25:58Speaker 3: Drake May's on this path where he's gonna get multiple
- 26:00Speaker 3: bites at the Apple and he might.
- 26:01Speaker 2: Be Joe Burrow. Yeah, you don't know. I mean that
- 26:04Speaker 2: they don't suffer injuries. You might, you might. I think
- 26:06Speaker 2: that's what.
- 26:08Speaker 3: MVP this year's second last year, Yeah, or it could
- 26:12Speaker 3: go the other way. The argument, the speculation, it's what
- 26:14Speaker 3: makes it fun for it goes It just basically goes
- 26:17Speaker 3: back to you know, when you're with your friends and
- 26:19Speaker 3: that if you're into sports or where you're with people
- 26:21Speaker 3: that are into the same conversation you do. This is
- 26:24Speaker 3: what a lot of times you sit around or if
- 26:25Speaker 3: you're at.
- 26:26Speaker 1: A bachelor party with a bunch of dudes from LA
- 26:29Speaker 1: that you got to get into a lot of Dodgers
- 26:30Speaker 1: and talking about it.
- 26:32Speaker 3: You know, we argue about we argue about this episode.
- 26:35Speaker 3: That is what it is. Now, there's definitely an eyewashed
- 26:37Speaker 3: aspect to it. The tough thing is there's always there's
- 26:41Speaker 3: almost never any conclusion with this because like, there are
- 26:44Speaker 3: so many guys, especially when you rank quarterbacks and you
- 26:46Speaker 3: can argue about that, there are so many guys that
- 26:48Speaker 3: are kind of in that whole same economy.
- 26:50Speaker 2: Now in the NFL, you could.
- 26:51Speaker 3: Split hairs all day and argue who's better, who's not,
- 26:54Speaker 3: who gets more results, who doesn't, what results matter, and
- 26:57Speaker 3: you'll be going on forever and ever. But I mean
- 26:59Speaker 3: for some people, that's the fun of it. That's sports,
- 27:01Speaker 3: and that's what we love about it. For some people,
- 27:03Speaker 3: I get why I can get exhausting because it could
- 27:05Speaker 3: become circular. But who is We're just trying to So
- 27:10Speaker 3: if we take the tired NBA debate of MJ versus Lebron,
- 27:15Speaker 3: who's challenging Brady for the throne?
- 27:18Speaker 1: Is it Mahomes he resurrected have a second act? Because
- 27:22Speaker 1: you forget Brady went ten years between championships. Can Mahomes
- 27:25Speaker 1: have a second act because he was on path? Or
- 27:27Speaker 1: well Mahomes fall short like Tiger Woods did of Jack
- 27:30Speaker 1: Nicholas's record of major championships.
- 27:33Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be Mahomes would be the only one
- 27:35Speaker 3: that's in the conversation because he has this juncture. Yeah,
- 27:38Speaker 3: at this, Well, you also have to be able to
- 27:41Speaker 3: have this kind of start, right, Like you have to
- 27:43Speaker 3: be that good early to give yourself that kind of
- 27:46Speaker 3: runway to do it, because you're right, Brady went ten
- 27:48Speaker 3: years without winning one they lost to in the middle there, right,
- 27:50Speaker 3: and you know he arguably was his best version of
- 27:53Speaker 3: himself as a player when they lost. When they were losing, right,
- 27:56Speaker 3: I mean, is like the goat played lost and they
- 27:59Speaker 3: played his best football and like didn't work out for it.
- 28:01Speaker 3: And that's where I mean to bring it to the
- 28:03Speaker 3: Lebron Jordan one. That's where against his head. Yeah, how
- 28:06Speaker 3: do you how do you discount people getting to the
- 28:08Speaker 3: championship but losing it? Right, But there's many that that's
- 28:11Speaker 3: an eliminating factor.
- 28:13Speaker 2: That is so true, Like.
- 28:14Speaker 3: Joe Montana they went what three straight years where they
- 28:17Speaker 3: were one and done in the playoffs, but never lost
- 28:19Speaker 3: in the super.
- 28:20Speaker 2: Bowl, never lost the Super Bowl four times.
- 28:23Speaker 1: Best of the years that Jordan ran up against the
- 28:25Speaker 1: Pistons and got eliminated exactly, then that put stoked the
- 28:28Speaker 1: furnace amen. That made his greatness. But we discount those
- 28:31Speaker 1: years because he won every year he played.
- 28:33Speaker 3: He Mahomes was. Mahomes was in a weird spot where
- 28:36Speaker 3: if they would have three peeded, he would have had
- 28:39Speaker 3: one thing that Brady never had.
- 28:40Speaker 2: And I mean only the Lombardi Packers had.
- 28:44Speaker 3: Like going three consecutive championships, which would have been the
- 28:47Speaker 3: thing that would be damn near untouchable. Uh. But that's
- 28:52Speaker 3: that to me, Drew is the conversation that's going to
- 28:55Speaker 3: be fun for the next five to six years if
- 28:56Speaker 3: they get back there, because now what's his second I
- 29:00Speaker 3: mean it feels like they're going to be primed up.
- 29:02Speaker 3: He's he's full go at practice. He tour his A
- 29:05Speaker 3: C L and multiple other things.
- 29:07Speaker 1: But seven months ago the roster as as by design,
- 29:11Speaker 1: the roster isn't what it was, and they'll I can't
- 29:13Speaker 1: keep everybody, you can't, You're not supposed and guys.
- 29:16Speaker 2: Age flip that thing over Age out good and the
- 29:20Speaker 2: running team. How long is Andy Reid gonna be around?
- 29:24Speaker 1: What does it look like after because Mahomes might outlast
- 29:27Speaker 1: Andy Reid, you would think I would.
- 29:28Speaker 3: Have to think this will be Kelsey's last year. And
- 29:31Speaker 3: the interesting one here is and Brady left you with Belichick.
- 29:35Speaker 3: That split happened when they were you know, Belichick was
- 29:38Speaker 3: at the end kinda So one of my favorite parts
- 29:40Speaker 3: of this Drew is getting to think and laugh about
- 29:42Speaker 3: the one guy that decided to vote Patrick Mahomes a
- 29:45Speaker 3: Tier two guy. Like this is my favorite part of
- 29:48Speaker 3: like the Mike Sando list. It reminds me more of
- 29:51Speaker 3: like Mariano Rivera going into the Hall of Fame.
- 29:53Speaker 2: Right, let's find different ways. Let's find the who is
- 29:56Speaker 2: the one.
- 29:56Speaker 3: Guy that didn't for that didn't vote for Henry Aaron
- 29:59Speaker 3: going into the Hall of and try to figure out
- 30:01Speaker 3: more than one guy, who are the idiots that decided
- 30:04Speaker 3: that you would actually take Josh Allen in a playoff
- 30:06Speaker 3: game over Patrick Mahomes. The subjectivity of it is why
- 30:10Speaker 3: this ends up getting fun and to your point, Arman,
- 30:13Speaker 3: why something that kind of never ends? Oh yeah, And
- 30:15Speaker 3: the foundational It's interesting because the foundational principle of all
- 30:19Speaker 3: what we're doing is based on our fact. Like the
- 30:22Speaker 3: way we talk about championships now with players and especially quarterbacks,
- 30:26Speaker 3: is the fact that we judge these guys on championships. Now,
- 30:29Speaker 3: if your quarterback, true, you are going to be judged
- 30:32Speaker 3: on championships. And really, we don't do that with other positions,
- 30:35Speaker 3: and we do it only somewhat in other sports, like
- 30:38Speaker 3: with basketball, we don't really do it. We don't really
- 30:39Speaker 3: sit around and say, like so and so is a
- 30:41Speaker 3: great player, but how many championships he winning?
- 30:43Speaker 2: Baseball? We do sometimes, Yankee, I've been saying that for years.
- 30:47Speaker 2: I say, and what was ray Lewis's playoff record?
- 30:50Speaker 3: But our whole thing now is you mentioned even you
- 30:52Speaker 3: mentioned like well, but he was a dominant fields Lawrence
- 30:55Speaker 3: Taylor's playoff But you guys mentioned Donald and May, because
- 30:59Speaker 3: those are the two guys that made the Super Bowl
- 31:00Speaker 3: and Donald won it. But in my opinion, you wouldn't
- 31:03Speaker 3: say those are the two best quarterbacks. But because they
- 31:05Speaker 3: achieved at the team's success, the team accomplishmently did, they
- 31:09Speaker 3: are a made man in that regard. I mean, come on,
- 31:11Speaker 3: I mean, that's always been the foundational.
- 31:13Speaker 2: Princible again yeah, I mean, I mean, Aaron Rodgers is
- 31:17Speaker 2: better than these guys.
- 31:18Speaker 1: I was just gonna say Aaron Rodgers in his career
- 31:21Speaker 1: is arguably the best ever. But no one will make
- 31:23Speaker 1: that case because he doesn't have a champion, because and
- 31:26Speaker 1: he came in. He came in at nineteenth ranked quarterback
- 31:30Speaker 1: in football on this list this year. This year, he
- 31:33Speaker 1: says in the forty two year old Aaron Rodgers, I
- 31:35Speaker 1: don't think there's much of the debate that that's probably
- 31:37Speaker 1: right about where he would be.
- 31:38Speaker 2: But I mean, yeah, because he's diminishing.
- 31:40Speaker 1: But I about what about when he was twenty seven
- 31:42Speaker 1: or twenty eight and not winning Super Bowls?
- 31:44Speaker 2: And you know, I think.
- 31:47Speaker 3: There's guys better than Drake May just based on playing
- 31:50Speaker 3: the position. But Drake had a good year last year
- 31:51Speaker 3: and he went to the Super Bowl.
- 31:53Speaker 1: He's put himself now in an audacious spot because of
- 31:56Speaker 1: what he did early and Billy, you're right, you gotta
- 31:58Speaker 1: have that runway and but so borrow a Super Bowl
- 32:02Speaker 1: a young quarterback and then since man and so he
- 32:05Speaker 1: lost his juice and lost his mojo. And no, he's
- 32:08Speaker 1: not considered in the discussion of being one of the
- 32:10Speaker 1: all time greats because he's not, you know, because he
- 32:12Speaker 1: hasn't been there.
- 32:13Speaker 2: The injury and team play for a bad organization. I
- 32:17Speaker 2: love that.
- 32:17Speaker 3: I love the Drake make example, because we all saw
- 32:19Speaker 3: how bad he was in the playoffs that I mean bad.
- 32:22Speaker 3: Maybe he's unfair, but he wasn't that he didn't win
- 32:25Speaker 3: two playoff games and one on the road and won
- 32:29Speaker 3: those games. And going back a couple of years, going
- 32:31Speaker 3: back three years ago, wouldn't the notion of Sam Donald
- 32:34Speaker 3: winning a Super Bowl be about as far fetched as
- 32:37Speaker 3: saying that Tyrod Taylor would win one? Yeah, it was close,
- 32:40Speaker 3: Like gets hurt Tyrod Taylor the Packers to a Super Bowl.
- 32:44Speaker 1: It's like they're kind of like that. They were in
- 32:45Speaker 1: the same tier. So that's why aren't the Teers.
- 32:47Speaker 2: Kind of meaningless? That doesn't approve my case.
- 32:50Speaker 3: No, because some people some people also believe Sam Donald
- 32:53Speaker 3: was better than anybody expected.
- 32:55Speaker 2: Yeah, some people like John Schneider, but you always believe
- 33:00Speaker 2: that you did.
- 33:01Speaker 3: But Sam, somebody's been telling people he's a little bit
- 33:03Speaker 3: better than everybody wanted to say.
- 33:08Speaker 1: Phenomenon like Cam Newton was at times a great player
- 33:12Speaker 1: and then shriveled in the.
- 33:13Speaker 2: In the big moments kind of, But that's one of
- 33:16Speaker 2: the best athletes you've ever seen.
- 33:17Speaker 1: Absolute and you take him over most guys and ranking
- 33:21Speaker 1: in the tiers and what are the tiers make the
- 33:24Speaker 1: cry tiers?
- 33:24Speaker 3: Thinking about it, hate when people try and gaslight me
- 33:26Speaker 3: when I see a player playing good or bad and
- 33:29Speaker 3: I can see it on the feel like intellectually the
- 33:30Speaker 3: numbers support it, but his team finds a way to
- 33:32Speaker 3: win or lose like he was the only reason.
- 33:34Speaker 2: Or that's just not the case you're in. But that's
- 33:37Speaker 2: what we deal with, and that's what the reality is.
- 33:39Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers has always dealt with that.
- 33:40Speaker 3: You know that that's okay, that's the reality of what
- 33:44Speaker 3: we do, and that's the reality of how.
- 33:45Speaker 2: We watch football and how we.
- 33:46Speaker 3: Judge it because winning is important, which is you know,
- 33:49Speaker 3: could be a lot worse things than saying teams als
- 33:51Speaker 3: are important.
- 33:52Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers probably leads h will set the all time
- 33:56Speaker 1: record for you know, being on the sidelines while his
- 33:58Speaker 1: defense puked away his work.
- 34:01Speaker 2: You know, like that's and that's you know, it's unfortunately
- 34:03Speaker 2: started with the Arazonly game.
- 34:05Speaker 3: Yeah, but look at his look at his championship level
- 34:08Speaker 3: round results, and it's not it's not only the team's
- 34:12Speaker 3: reason why he's only gone back once. Oh yeah, I
- 34:14Speaker 3: mean like the play in the championship round.
- 34:17Speaker 2: He came up smaller in some spots.
- 34:19Speaker 1: Yeah, but I prefer to remember him just carving up
- 34:22Speaker 1: the falcons on the way to the super that's as
- 34:24Speaker 1: good as good as anybody's ever gonna play. And he
- 34:27Speaker 1: can just show that highlight for the rest of his
- 34:29Speaker 1: life and shut anybody up when they try to say
- 34:31Speaker 1: that what tier he's in, or when the he's not
- 34:33Speaker 1: in the classes Montana and Brady because he didn't win
- 34:35Speaker 1: the big game.
- 34:35Speaker 3: Well, okay, it's always it's always tough though, when your
- 34:38Speaker 3: when your best play ends up being a tackle in
- 34:40Speaker 3: your quarterback in a championship that's rough, that's right. But
- 34:44Speaker 3: it's also tough when when you got guys that can't
- 34:47Speaker 3: do a fake field goal that don't go down. That
- 34:49Speaker 3: went down because Morgan Burnette goes down and you Yeah,
- 34:53Speaker 3: but I'm saying, I mean, team overcame those things. Teams
- 34:56Speaker 3: can overcome it. Sometimes you just don't catch breaks. And
- 34:59Speaker 3: that's just the real You can be great. If his
- 35:01Speaker 3: standard is he had to be perfect all the time,
- 35:04Speaker 3: then so be that perfect well the player you normally
- 35:07Speaker 3: you normally are. Yeah, he had to be his had
- 35:10Speaker 3: to be your normal self. Look at every one of
- 35:14Speaker 3: the bottom line is it never was in terms of rings.
- 35:17Speaker 3: Sam Donald and Aaron Rodgers are equals. In terms of
- 35:21Speaker 3: Flacco performance, way.
- 35:22Speaker 1: Yeah, Trento, in terms of performance, we know all that's
- 35:26Speaker 1: not the case.
- 35:27Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely see, but it drew.
- 35:28Speaker 3: If we didn't have lists in rankings, we'd never be
- 35:31Speaker 3: able to delineate that.
- 35:32Speaker 2: Those guys are different. But everybody, so, thank god, everybody's
- 35:35Speaker 2: had this discussion. Everybody's listens different. Now there's greatness right there.
- 35:41Speaker 2: Eating food at the television. I love this. Tailors and drink.
- 35:48Speaker 2: You don't have that. Diana's got what I want.
- 35:50Speaker 3: That's the the pretzel thing is what.
- 35:52Speaker 1: I'm looking for. That's look, dude, good look it's good.
- 35:55Speaker 1: Look all right, we're watching TV on the radio. We
- 35:57Speaker 1: can't be doing that. We got to go to break.
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- 36:21Speaker 1: a Brewer's afternoon game as we did, and we need
- 36:25Speaker 1: to talk about some Dustin May.
- 36:26Speaker 2: And thankfully we have Hunter.
- 36:27Speaker 1: Bombguard to bring some you know, some normality, because Dustin
- 36:33Speaker 1: May was pretty good. I mean, there are folks who
- 36:35Speaker 1: will say, well, it could have been more efficient, and
- 36:37Speaker 1: he hadn't pitched in a while. His first game in
- 36:38Speaker 1: a new surrounding throwing to El Garry bottom line pitch
- 36:42Speaker 1: well enough for the bersone. He was the head of
- 36:44Speaker 1: the Delta pledge class when it came to new acquisitions,
- 36:46Speaker 1: compared to Trek Scoubel, Freddy Peralta and Casey miz All
- 36:52Speaker 1: three of those guys, you know, filled their socks, whereas
- 36:54Speaker 1: he was solid.
- 36:55Speaker 3: Yeah, and his numbers pretty reminiscent of exactly what Scooble
- 36:58Speaker 3: put out there. Three hits only a lot of the
- 37:00Speaker 3: six base runners. Worked himself through a little bit of trouble,
- 37:02Speaker 3: Drew and I thought the I mean, you called this number.
- 37:05Speaker 2: To me, and and so did my youth baseball coach.
- 37:07Speaker 2: I gotta to give a little shout out to mister Hushick.
- 37:09Speaker 3: But uh, twelve of twenty three first pitch strikes for
- 37:12Speaker 3: Dustin may still get at.
- 37:16Speaker 2: Two run ball. That's quality start.
- 37:18Speaker 3: When you're not setting yourself up early in the count
- 37:20Speaker 3: very well, that's there is there's definite room for improvement.
- 37:23Speaker 3: But if that's your baseline, that's a hell of.
- 37:25Speaker 2: A way to start. And on the mound, you can
- 37:28Speaker 2: just tell he's a battler. He's like he's a he's
- 37:31Speaker 2: just one of their kind of guys.
- 37:32Speaker 1: He yeah, absolutely, you know what, and he's I don't
- 37:35Speaker 1: think this is a reach.
- 37:37Speaker 2: This is a comparison. This is for Arman. But Dave
- 37:40Speaker 2: Bush I love that.
- 37:42Speaker 1: Not a great pitcher, but the dudes loved him because
- 37:45Speaker 1: he battled he competed. Man, he didn't give in to
- 37:48Speaker 1: guys and he just he just had an edge, a
- 37:52Speaker 1: competitive edge that fires me on and Dustin May. Dustin
- 37:56Speaker 1: May is i think a more talented pitcher than Dave Bush.
- 37:59Speaker 1: But Dave Bush had that. There are some guys who
- 38:01Speaker 1: have it. There's some guys with great stuff who crater
- 38:04Speaker 1: and just you know, give in and like a walk
- 38:05Speaker 1: out or just throw yeah exactly and throw you know,
- 38:09Speaker 1: down the middle, and like they wat true.
- 38:11Speaker 2: Yeah they got great stuff, but they.
- 38:12Speaker 1: Don't have that edge. It's like, give me a guy
- 38:14Speaker 1: with lesser skills and the edge. Dustin May is a
- 38:17Speaker 1: good mix of good skills, good stuff and that fire,
- 38:20Speaker 1: that edge that you're not beating me man, Like you
- 38:22Speaker 1: made an error and now there's a guy on third
- 38:24Speaker 1: I'm getting I'm striking this dude out.
- 38:26Speaker 2: I'm going out.
- 38:27Speaker 1: Some guys that's their ticket to crater and say, oh
- 38:30Speaker 1: it was my fault.
- 38:32Speaker 2: But he had that. Guyardo had that kind of like
- 38:35Speaker 2: to Guyarda over.
- 38:36Speaker 1: Something like this guys with the but Girarta had the
- 38:39Speaker 1: cool low blood pressure thing. Dustin May is like you
- 38:41Speaker 1: can just tell he's he's in it.
- 38:44Speaker 2: He's in it.
- 38:45Speaker 1: And guys love playing behind guys like that, and like
- 38:48Speaker 1: Dave Bush wasn't in no measure, was Dave Bush like
- 38:50Speaker 1: a top ten Brewers picture in Bruce history.
- 38:53Speaker 2: But guys like playing behind him, and they.
- 38:54Speaker 1: Would go, Dave Bush, he's he's playing hard, I'm playing hard.
- 38:57Speaker 2: I'm with him. They would go in with them, Yeah,
- 39:00Speaker 2: and listen.
- 39:00Speaker 3: Dave Bush is one of my absolute favorite names in
- 39:02Speaker 3: Brewers history because there was two years man where every
- 39:05Speaker 3: single game I went to Dave Bushes part.
- 39:07Speaker 2: Every game turve ball.
- 39:12Speaker 3: But it was just have that, yes, and there's something
- 39:15Speaker 3: to also, like it's not quantifiable, but like Logan Henderson,
- 39:19Speaker 3: the team wins when he's on the mountain, Like that
- 39:22Speaker 3: is something that you start picking it up and and
- 39:25Speaker 3: is that, uh, can you replicate that each year year
- 39:28Speaker 3: and a year out? No, maybe not, but right now
- 39:30Speaker 3: that's the recipe. And there's some dustin May. You're gonna
- 39:34Speaker 3: get some action and you're gonna get some fire. And
- 39:36Speaker 3: if that guy is competing that way, that does set
- 39:38Speaker 3: a different type of tone. Burf kept saying, we can't
- 39:40Speaker 3: just bring in guys. We got to bring in the
- 39:42Speaker 3: rest of guys, and it seems like they hit that.
- 39:44Speaker 1: And MS has the stuff and the edge and and
- 39:49Speaker 1: you know.
- 39:50Speaker 2: Celebrate and gives it. You know, he's got that little extra.
- 39:53Speaker 3: And and other teams might not have loved his little
- 39:55Speaker 3: fist pumping last year, but you could tell everybody else
- 39:57Speaker 3: that was on the diamond and his.
- 39:58Speaker 2: Dugout loved every bit of it. Yeah, loves that kind
- 40:01Speaker 2: and that's there.
- 40:02Speaker 1: It's just it's it's some sort of an intangible And
- 40:06Speaker 1: I said that all the time about Pooholes. I know
- 40:08Speaker 1: people hated him here, but he was like one of
- 40:10Speaker 1: the best guys I've ever seen in you know, eight
- 40:12Speaker 1: to one ninety five degrees day game after a night game,
- 40:16Speaker 1: and it's he's in the eighth inning and he's playing
- 40:18Speaker 1: first base and I'm watching him and he's getting on
- 40:20Speaker 1: his pitcher and he's like riding and like, you know, hey,
- 40:22Speaker 1: we're trying even though the game's out of whack, like
- 40:25Speaker 1: we're in this and he every pitch Like those guys
- 40:27Speaker 1: are special.
- 40:28Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why he's going to be a great manager.
- 40:31Speaker 2: One of these days.
- 40:32Speaker 3: He's gonna be a He was that Dominican Republic manager
- 40:34Speaker 3: for the WBC.
- 40:35Speaker 2: I put him in my duck shows up all right,
- 40:37Speaker 2: we are one hour of the books. Five o'clock clubers.
- 40:39Speaker 2: Let's make a room on.
- 40:40Speaker 1: The bandwagon for the six o'clock Club because they're joining
- 40:42Speaker 1: us next year.
- 40:43Speaker 2: In the huddle. Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin,