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Fair T: Sandy Alcántara's surge, TJ for Jobe, Civale’s trade ask · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Well, first of all, players are basically opposed to anything
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  Speaker 1: manager suggests each side. If one has an idea, the
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  Speaker 1: other says no, we don't like that, almost reflexively. So
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  Speaker 1: that's where it starts. Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition
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  Speaker 1: of Fair Territory. I'm Ken Rosenthal here with Alana Rizzo. Alana,
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  Speaker 1: good to be with you, And on this Thursday, we're
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  Speaker 1: still about seven weeks away from the trade deadline, and
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  Speaker 1: yet yet things are starting to develop. Slowly, but surely
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  Speaker 1: they're starting to develop.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's interesting, Ken, it's good to be with
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  Speaker 2: you also, but it seems like it's coming from a
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  Speaker 2: player perspective, a player request, versus a team situation. What
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  Speaker 2: more can you tell us about Aaron Savali and the
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  Speaker 2: Milwaukee Brewers.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this is the first thing we have to discuss today,
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  Speaker 1: and it's rather interesting. So the Brewers, of all teams,
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  Speaker 1: seem to have something of a starting pitching surplus, and
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  Speaker 1: today their top prospect, Jacob Minzaraski, is coming up to
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  Speaker 1: make his major league debut tonight at home against the
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  Speaker 1: Saint Louis Cardinals, and because the Brewers want to add
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  Speaker 1: Miseroski to their rotation, they are moving Aaron Savali to
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  Speaker 1: the bullpen. They gave him that news yesterday and at
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  Speaker 1: that time Aaron Savally was not happy, as his manager
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  Speaker 1: Pat Murphy said, and his agent Jack Toffee requested a
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  Speaker 1: trade through Brewers general manager Matt Arnold. I have a
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  Speaker 1: story up with Will Salmon about this particular situation right now,
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  Speaker 1: and you can understand Savally in his free agent year,
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  Speaker 1: not wanting to go to the bullpen, where he has
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  Speaker 1: never pitched except one time in relief last year during
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  Speaker 1: the Wildhart Series against the Mets. That's his only career
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  Speaker 1: relief appearance one hundred and twenty two career regular season starts.
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  Speaker 1: And at the same time, the Brewers, though they have
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  Speaker 1: this abundance of starters and starting options. I want to
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  Speaker 1: show you exactly what I'm talking about, because it's rather
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  Speaker 1: interesting to see a team like the Brewers in this position,
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  Speaker 1: especially when they started the season with Elvin Rodriguez making
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  Speaker 1: their home opener Dave start, because they had no other options.
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  Speaker 1: They were injury left and right, and here they are
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  Speaker 1: right now looking pretty good. Freddy Peralta, Jose Cantana, jad Patrick,
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  Speaker 1: Quinn Priester, who has been piggybacking with dal all the times,
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  Speaker 1: and Jacob Izarowski joining the rotation tonight. That's their current five.
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  Speaker 1: Logan Henderson, that dude had a one to seven ERA
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  Speaker 1: in his first four major league starts, get sent to
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  Speaker 1: the miners. That's where he is now, along with Tobias Myers,
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  Speaker 1: who has not been that good this year, but last
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  Speaker 1: year was a stalwart in that rotation. And then on
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  Speaker 1: the injured list you have Nestro Cortez Junior and Brandon
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  Speaker 1: Woodruff working their ways back from injuries. Nowhere among those
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  Speaker 1: nine names do you see Aaron Savali because he has
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  Speaker 1: been sent to the bullpen. But in Savale's case, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he has a clear path necessarily back
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  Speaker 1: to the rotation. So he's making eight million dollars this season.
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  Speaker 1: The Brewers almost always want to trade guys making money,
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  Speaker 1: especially when they're not playing a significant role. He's requested
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  Speaker 1: a trade. There are teams clearly in need of starting pitching.
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  Speaker 1: We will see what this leads to in the weeks
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  Speaker 1: and data ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Ken, do you think that the Brewers will respond in
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  Speaker 2: kind with a trade. And I also feel like oftentimes
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  Speaker 2: when players or their agents are asking for a trade.
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  Speaker 2: That's something that happens more in the NFL or the NBA.
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  Speaker 2: It's rare when you hear a Major League Baseball player
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  Speaker 2: request a trade or through his agent or whatever. Do
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  Speaker 2: you think that this will happen more often if players
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  Speaker 2: are unsatisfied or dissatisfied with what's going on, and do
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  Speaker 2: you think the Brewers will allow this to happen.
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  Speaker 1: It's a good point a lota, and it probably happens
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  Speaker 1: more often than we know. We got to tip on
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  Speaker 1: this this morning, I confirmed it with the agent, and
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  Speaker 1: we wrote a story. So in this case, yes, it happened.
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  Speaker 1: It pretty clearly happened for a very specific reason. This
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  Speaker 1: guy does not want to pitch in the bullpen as
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  Speaker 1: he becomes a free agent, right but I would imagine
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  Speaker 1: that from time to time this does happen throughout the game.
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  Speaker 1: There's no question about that. Now, to the question of
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  Speaker 1: whether they will accommodate him, I believe the answer to
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  Speaker 1: that is yes, maybe not tomorrow, but sometime before the deadline,
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  Speaker 1: and the question will be, Okay, which team is going
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  Speaker 1: to want to take the balance of his salary, Which
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  Speaker 1: team will want the Brewers to chip in? Will some
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  Speaker 1: team take all of it. That's always going to be
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  Speaker 1: the question with these kinds of things. But as for
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  Speaker 1: the Brewer's desire, I would imagine, as I said in
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  Speaker 1: the opening of this segment, sure, they want to do it.
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  Speaker 1: They want to get rid of the rest of that
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  Speaker 1: money and either save it for themselves or use it
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  Speaker 1: for other things. So yeah, I would expect this to
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  Speaker 1: take place. I just don't know how quickly.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's certainly a lot of teams that could use
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  Speaker 2: starting arm help, So we will certainly see Aaron Savally
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  Speaker 2: in another uniform, likely sooner rather than later. One guy
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  Speaker 2: ken that is a starter, and it seems like he's
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  Speaker 2: rounding back to who he used to be. Is Sandy Alcontra?
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  Speaker 2: You just wrote a piece about him. If have you
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  Speaker 2: seen from him that leads you to believe that he's
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  Speaker 2: on his way back?
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  Speaker 1: Right? Well, I wrote this with Leenosaras and we published
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  Speaker 1: it this morning as the top of our notes column.
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  Speaker 1: And it's interesting his last two starts a Contras have
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  Speaker 1: been against Colorado and Pittsburgh, two worst offenses in the
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  Speaker 1: major leagues. So the fact that Sandy al Contra produced
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  Speaker 1: back to back quality starts against those teams you might say, Nah,
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  Speaker 1: a big deal, it's the Rockies, it's the Pirates. But
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  Speaker 1: I talked with his manager, Clayton McCullough of the Marlins,
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  Speaker 1: and I talk with a scout who was at the
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  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh game the other night. And the scout arrival official
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  Speaker 1: from another team, obviously if he's a rival. He said
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  Speaker 1: that he thought al Contra was so good that he
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  Speaker 1: was about three or four starts away from being the
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  Speaker 1: Sandy of old, and McCullough echoed this those sentiments. McCullough
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  Speaker 1: basically said that early in the season Sandy al Contra
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  Speaker 1: had command issues, command issues not uncommon to pitchers coming
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  Speaker 1: off Tommy John surgery, which he had in October of
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. And now you're starting to see al Contredo,
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  Speaker 1: with his five pitch repertoire, kind of place things a
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  Speaker 1: little bit better than he was before. And he's missing less.
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  Speaker 1: His catcher's glove is moving less. It's a command situation
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  Speaker 1: that is improving. This guy, as I said, has five pitches.
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  Speaker 1: He's thrown his fastball in ninety nine. The velocity, the
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  Speaker 1: shapes have not been an issue. The issue has been
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  Speaker 1: getting it in and around the zone. He seems to
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  Speaker 1: be doing that better, and Clayton McCullum made the point
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  Speaker 1: to me, Yeah, it's the Pirates and the Rockies, and
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  Speaker 1: I get the skepticism, that's what he said. But it's
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  Speaker 1: the quality of his throes, that's the phrase he used,
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  Speaker 1: the quality of his throws that looked much improved. Contda's
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  Speaker 1: next start is against the Phillies. That's going to be interesting.
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  Speaker 1: A better offense obviously, the one that is not exactly
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  Speaker 1: red hot right now, and it's missing Bryce Harper, but
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  Speaker 1: it's a more competitive group, no question, and we'll see
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  Speaker 1: how he does there. I've seen in recent days reports saying, ah,
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  Speaker 1: the Marlins probably will just hold this guy, hold on.
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  Speaker 1: We've got seven weeks until the deadline. We've got potentially
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  Speaker 1: eight starts or so for al Condra in that time.
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  Speaker 1: If he can get it back in three or four starts,
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  Speaker 1: as that rival official said, get back to where he
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  Speaker 1: was the old Sandy. The Marlins are going to entertain offers.
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  Speaker 1: That's what they do, and I would expect that again,
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  Speaker 1: as expected earlier in the year, Sandy al Contrera would
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  Speaker 1: be the bell of the ball at the trade deadline.
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  Speaker 1: Hasn't happened. Yet we're not there yet, but there are
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  Speaker 1: signs of progress here and it's notable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was so good to watch a couple of
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  Speaker 2: years ago. It'd be great to see him get back
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  Speaker 2: to that form. One of the good ones in the game.
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  Speaker 2: And Clayton McCullough went on to say Ken, as he
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  Speaker 2: talked to you, of course, that he's finishing his pitches
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  Speaker 2: more and the quality of the throws are there, all right,
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  Speaker 2: Jackson job. Unfortunately, Ken Rosenthal another one on the shelf
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  Speaker 2: for the Detroit Tigers. Looks like he needs Tommy John surgery.
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  Speaker 2: You hate to see it with any pitcher. It seems
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  Speaker 2: like an epidemic. How will the Tigers respond to this?
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  Speaker 1: It is an epidemic, there's no question about it, Alana,
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  Speaker 1: and we talk about it every week. It was Corbyn
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  Speaker 1: Burns last week, it's Jackson Job this week. And it's
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  Speaker 1: just an endlessly disturbing pattern for the entire sport. As
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  Speaker 1: for the Tigers, they're in relatively decent shape. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: They've got Scooble and Flaherty at the top of the rotation.
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  Speaker 1: They also have Casey Mais, They've got cater Mantero and
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  Speaker 1: they've got some pictures coming back. Sawyer Gibson Long is
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  Speaker 1: now back from his own elbow surgery. He's made a
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  Speaker 1: couple of appearances, one start and on the il rhees
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  Speaker 1: Olsen who was working his way back from a finger injury,
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  Speaker 1: Alex Cobb, who I love but it seemingly always hurt.
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  Speaker 1: And then this whole day of Katie who could be
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  Speaker 1: a factor in the second half. So you ask, are
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  Speaker 1: the Tigers going to pursue a starting picture at the deadline.
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  Speaker 1: I would expect that the answer to that is yes,
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  Speaker 1: even if those pictures come back healthy, because imagine if
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  Speaker 1: they got a quality mid rotation starter who could maybe
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  Speaker 1: start a playoff game along with Scooble and Flaherty, then
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  Speaker 1: you've really got something. Now. You may have that internally
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  Speaker 1: as well, and the Tigers have other needs. They need
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  Speaker 1: another right handed bat, even if Matt Vierling gets back,
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  Speaker 1: someone preferably right side of the I'm sorry, left side
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  Speaker 1: of the infield. Maybe an outfielder as well, but really
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  Speaker 1: a left side infield or a shortstop or third baseman.
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  Speaker 1: They can mix and match so well. They have so
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  Speaker 1: many versatile players, I'm not sure the position matters all
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  Speaker 1: that much. Whether it's infield or outfield, but they'll be looking.
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  Speaker 1: And Scott Harris, their GM, has been talking publicly on
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  Speaker 1: a radio station in Detroit about the fact that they
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  Speaker 1: are going to seek to upgrade this team. This team
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  Speaker 1: has earned as much. So it's going to be really
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  Speaker 1: interesting to see where the Tigers go at the deadline.
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  Speaker 1: Do they look to add in every area? Offense, rotation, bullpen,
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  Speaker 1: We'll see.
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  Speaker 2: Does Savali make sense he's looking for a job.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he is, he's looking for a starting job. He
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  Speaker 1: might make sense. But if you're the Tigers, you also
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  Speaker 1: might say, you know what, I don't want to acquire
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  Speaker 1: Iron Savali and take whatever percentage of his remaining salary
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  Speaker 1: I would take now when other options will become available,
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  Speaker 1: Sandy al Contra might be one of those options. There
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  Speaker 1: might be other pitchers of high caliber. Zach Eflin, who
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  Speaker 1: is a guy that you would like to have, I
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  Speaker 1: would think from a rotation standpoint. Hey, the Diamondbacks, now
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  Speaker 1: they just swept the Mariners, but they've got Zach Gallan
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  Speaker 1: and Merrill Kelly. They are five in your team right now.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows where their season is going with all their injuries.
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  Speaker 1: Martinez as well as burns now, So other options are
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  Speaker 1: going to become available, and that's why it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be difficult for the Brewers to trade Savali right now
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  Speaker 1: when teams will be looking to assess these other possibilities.
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  Speaker 2: Is this something that the Brewers could take a portion
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  Speaker 2: of the contract ken and the new team would have
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  Speaker 2: to take a portion, or do the Brewers have to
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  Speaker 2: eat the entire thing or does the new team have
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  Speaker 2: to eat the entire thing?
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  Speaker 1: A lot of that is subject to negotiation, and certainly
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  Speaker 1: the Brewers would want the new team to take the balance.
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  Speaker 1: And at this point we're still looking at over four
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  Speaker 1: million dollars at the deadline. It would be less than that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that another team would want to take
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  Speaker 1: all of it. And if that team does take all
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  Speaker 1: of it, they're going to tell the Brewers while you're
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  Speaker 1: getting a lesser prospect. So if the Brewers take more money,
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  Speaker 1: they get a better prospect. That's how these things work,
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  Speaker 1: the sliding scale. So it's going to be again really
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  Speaker 1: interesting to see how this all plays out against the
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  Speaker 1: backdrop of the potential for all these other starters to
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  Speaker 1: become available.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, anything for a price. We'll see what's happening in
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  Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks, about seven weeks away from
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  Speaker 2: the deadline. Much more to come on Fair Territory with
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  Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal. We will be Bill and Ken when we
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  Speaker 2: All right, everybody, welcome to Grill and Ken. In addition
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  Speaker 2: to taking some of the questions from our YouTube chat,
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  Speaker 2: which we certainly we'll do, we're also taking questions from
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  Speaker 2: Go to foul Territory dot chat again, totally free and
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  Speaker 2: join the conversation. And I actually love the first question
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  Speaker 2: Ken from chat BCC. It comes from Martha Brennan. When
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  Speaker 2: Bregman meaning Alex Bregman comes back. What's the best case
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  Speaker 2: scenario in which the three kids stay up? That's obviously Roman, Anthony,
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  Speaker 2: Marcello Meyer, and I'm assuming Christian Campbell and Duran doesn't
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  Speaker 2: get traded.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how that's possible, honestly. You have Campbell
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  Speaker 1: at second base, meyrat third base playing Gregman's position in Roman,
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  Speaker 1: Anthony in the outfield, and Darren Durant of course is
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  Speaker 1: an outfielder as well. Now, the one thing you could
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  Speaker 1: do would be, I guess to bench Trevor's story play
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  Speaker 1: Meyer at short. But you don't want to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Trevor story is starting to play back. No, yes it is,
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  Speaker 1: and Trevor Story is a guy who's a really good defender,
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  Speaker 1: and you cannot win with all kids. You need some veterans.
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Story is certainly a veteran. So it seems to
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  Speaker 1: me that when Regman gets back, or even when Will
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  Speaker 1: You're a Breu gets back, Chraig Ruslow, as president of
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  Speaker 1: Braceball Operations, is going to have to really take a
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  Speaker 1: look at this roster and maybe do something to be creative.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm talking about possibly a trade now. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it's Duran, I don't know if it's a
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  Speaker 1: bray You. I don't know exactly how you do this,
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  Speaker 1: because all of these players were talking about are guys
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  Speaker 1: you want on your team. Duran is a dynamic player,
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  Speaker 1: Top ten MVP, last year All Star Game MVP. He
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  Speaker 1: does so many things well. And then you have also
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  Speaker 1: Will You're a Breu who is relatively inexpensive or really
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  Speaker 1: good player in his own right. I'm not sure how
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  Speaker 1: they're going to piece this all together. If they're going
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  Speaker 1: to keep every one of the big leagues like the
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  Speaker 1: person suggested, and then have Regman and Duran as well,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be a challenge. But the kind of challenge.
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  Speaker 1: Any team should welcome. Too many good players is never
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  Speaker 1: a problem.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a good problem to have if you
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  Speaker 2: want to call it a problem. Thank you for that question.
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  Speaker 2: We appreciate that, Martha. The next one comes from Jack Siciliano.
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  Speaker 2: How would you rank these three in terms of defense
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  Speaker 2: in centerfield PCA? Which is Pete crow Armstrong of the Cubs,
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  Speaker 2: Denzel Clark, and Saydan Rafaela of the Boston Red Sox.
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  Speaker 2: And you have another one, Ken to add to this question.
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  Speaker 1: Julia Rodriguez is the other one who if you look
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  Speaker 1: at defensive run saved and outs above average, he is
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  Speaker 1: right there with those guys a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: different order in the two leading public metrics, but all
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  Speaker 1: four of those guys are in there in one order
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  Speaker 1: or another. Now here's the amazing part, and here's why
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  Speaker 1: I would take Denzel Clark. Look at the defensive run
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  Speaker 1: saved here and look at the innings and again out's
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  Speaker 1: above average is not much different than this. But the
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  Speaker 1: difference is Clark has barely played compared to these other guys,
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  Speaker 1: and he's right there with them in defensive run saved.
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  Speaker 1: So I think I would take Denzel Clark and I'd
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  Speaker 1: be pretty happy about it that. I will say this.
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  Speaker 1: Watching Pete Crow Armstrong and Raphaela and even Julio in centerfield,
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  Speaker 1: it's a joy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been fun. I love watching the game with
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  Speaker 2: the Athletics and Jenny Kavnar and Dallas Braden were on
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  Speaker 2: the call and just listening to the excitement obviously when
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  Speaker 2: Clark was making some of those catches. All right, The
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  Speaker 2: third one here from chat BCC is from Alicia Edgar
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  Speaker 2: might be Alicia, I'm not sure, but thanks for being
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  Speaker 2: a part of the conversation. Well, getting the course starting
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  Speaker 2: pitchers back for the Dodgers, level them up enough. I
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  Speaker 2: care about this question a lot, a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Of have you take it away first, then go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: I do think it's gonna help, right, I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: basically have a bullpen game on Tuesday, you had Justin Robleski,
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  Speaker 2: and then you know young guys pitching on Wednesday for
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers. Yeah, I definitely think it's gonna help when
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: you get Blake Snell, Tyler glasnow perhaps Shoho Tani before
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: the All Star break, which I'm not a huge fan
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: of unless he's completely healthy. Yeah, of course I think
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: it's gonna level them up. When you have a one
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: hundred and two million dollars of your payroll on the IL,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: I think it can only help. But you, my friend,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: are a future Hall of Famer and the analyst, so
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: you take this at.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Least I'm going to answer it like this. Are they
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: going to get these pictures back? That's all well and good.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: We're hearing of Blake Snell throwing again in glass now,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: and Gon's lin will be back, and Showy is coming.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: The whole point of this team, the whole plan this year,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: is to put the best possible roster together for October.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: My question has been and will be until I see
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: it proven otherwise. Will everyone be in sync at that
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: time or are some of these guys going to come
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: back and get injured again, or will other pictures get injured?
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: What are they going to look like October first? That's
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the whole goal of the season, to be ready for
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: the postseason. And I understand it. I understand what the
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Dodgers are doing, and I understand that over the years
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: they've taken chances on pictures with injury histories because they
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: want their excellence. Well, you got to get these guys
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: healthy at some point at some point it is go time.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Now we're not even close to there yet. But my
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: concern is will these guys or enough of them be
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: healthy at the same time come the postseason. Yeah.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: And my concern as well, Ken, that is a good
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: one that you have, is the bullpen being absolutely blown
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: out because the starters that they have right now are
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: not going deep into the ballgame. I mean, I did
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: not have on my bingo card in the series against
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: the Padres. The first time that the Dodgers saw them
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: was going to be dustin May TBD, and it ended
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: up being been casparous not what I thought as far
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: as starting pitchers for the Dodgers against the Padres for
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: that first series. Okay, another question here, this one from
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: our YouTube chat from Mike G. Grill and Ken. Which
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: starting pitcher could you see the Cubs zeroing in on
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: most for an aggressive pursuit.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know which one. I would say most, but
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: all of those pitchers I mentioned earlier, Gallan, Kelly if
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: they become available from the Diamondbacks, Eflyn and Chicano from
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: the Orioles if they become available as I expect they will,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: and Alcantra if he is a factor here. If he
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: becomes someone that teams are going to want again, I
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: would expect they're going to aim high. They're going to
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: look at that group and maybe some others as well.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I might be missing a few here and there, But
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: if you're the Cubs and you've got this opportunity, you've
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: got him in Aga coming back. Boyd has pitched very well,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Tiona's pitched very well. You're hopefully going to get a
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: side back at some point as well. You're going for it.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: You want more, you want to have the best possible
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: rotation you can put together without Justin Steele, who's out
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: for the year. So I would expect that they're going
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: to play at the high end of the starting pitchers
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: that are available.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: What a bummer if Zach Gallen and Meryl Kelly get traded.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: I mean that they were so good for the Arizona Diamondbacks,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: and I wanted the Diamondbacks to be better this year.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I know, obviously losing Corbyn Burns is tough, all right.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Last question here from our YouTube chat comes from John Shank.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Thanks John for being a part of the show here
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: with Ken and I, is it time to hit the
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: panic button for the Cardinals after getting swept by the
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Blue Jays.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: John, Respectfully, three games means nothing if you look at
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks in the past nine days, They've swept a
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: team they've been swept, and then they swept the Mariners
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: to have their third series in a row of sweeps.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: It's just too small a window to look at, especially
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: when the Cardinals have played as well as they have
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: all season. Now, if in the next seven weeks they
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: stumble and fall out of contention, yes, different story than
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: you trade some of your potential free agents and look
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: do some things creatively. But I'm not giving up on
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals just yet. The Jays are really hot right now.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: The Jays are playing like we've hoped they would play
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: for I don't know a couple of years. So good
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: for them. And it seems to me the Cardinals just
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: ran into a really good opponent.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with it. It's nice to see the
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Jays playing up to their capability as we. As you mentioned,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: we have been waiting this for quite some time. All right, dude,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: and Dork of the Week is next right after a
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: quick break.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I just want to.
• 20:59
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• 21:02
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• 21:06
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• 21:08
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• 21:09
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• 21:11
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• 21:13
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• 21:19
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• 21:24
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• 21:24
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• 21:27
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• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Dude, dude, dude.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Can I don't think you were really going out on
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: a limb with your dude of the week, but I
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: can understand why you picked him. Who is it?
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: It's Denzel Clark, and it's Denzel Clark for that amazing
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: catch that he made. And here's the thing that amazed
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: me the most. Obviously, he caught the ball looked like
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Spider Man or Elastic Man, as Tory Hunter said, but
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the fact that he didn't spill over the wall is
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: incredible to me. To have the athleticism, the body control
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: to not go completely over. He kind of braced himself
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: with his right hand. That was amazing. He is my
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: dude of the week, and there wasn't much question in
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: my mind.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, my goodness, it gives me chills watching it,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: and I've watched it like thirty eight times. But the
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: core strength that that young man must have in his
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: pectoral muscles and his abdominal muscles is ridiculous. To make
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: sure he didn't go over the wall, I would have flipped.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: First of all, I wouldn't have been able to get
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: up that high vertically, but I certainly would have flown
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: over the wall and probably broken my neck. So God
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: bless him for his athleticism and his core strength. All Right,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: mine is a dog, I mean honestly, I mean as
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: anybody surprised. Of course, Bruce the bat Dog is on
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: his way to the majors after being called up by
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: the Washington Nationals from the Rochester Red Wings. Listen, don't
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: think that these guys, these little puppers, don't try to
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: you know, get their workouts in and they eat great
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: and they want to call their mom and dad when
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: they get called up to So congratulations to this sweetheart
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: he got called up to the big leagues. I love this.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: All the bat Dogs and Golden's, by the way, are sweet, sweet, sweet,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: sweet jobs all right, time now for our John Fisher
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: dork of the week. Well, Ken, the San Diego Padres
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: didn't learn. It appears that the Saint Louis Cardinals took
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: a page out of the Padres book Who and you are?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: They're your dorks of the week for a certain reason.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Why, well, what do we hear all the time from
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals and their fans. They play a beautiful brand
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: of baseball. They're all about way best fans baseball, cardinal way.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: They're a class above the rest of the sport. Well,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: not this week when they trolled Clayton Kershaw by showing
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Matt Adams home run from the twenty fourteen NLDS. We're
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: living on a moment from eleven years ago and insulting
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: a guy who was going to the Hall of Fame
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: on the first ballot. That is a lack of class.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: It's not cool. And Cardinals dorks of the week for that.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: And it's good fun. Now, Not when you present yourself
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: or yourself as this distinctive franchise. No, he acted like
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: punks and not for nothing.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Eleven years ago. Get over yourself eleven years ago. Matt
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Carpenter has retired Clayton Kershaw, still performing and he's going
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: to the Hall of Fame. So stop it, all right,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: My dork of the week the Atlanta Braves for calling
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: up Craig Kimberl for basically an inning and then dfa
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: ing him the next day. What are we doing? I mean,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: this is a guy that arguably could be in the
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame too as a closer. I mean, he's
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: had an unbelievable career. He's certainly on the back nine,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: will probably retire soon if he can't get another job.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: But what is the point of that? I mean, to me,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: that is so disrespectful to a veteran player to do that.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: I just don't I don't understand that.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: There were reasons for it. He didn't perform great, they
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: were short in their bullpen, and and even if he
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: had pitched the next day, they were gonna have to
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: dfa and that would have been three days out of four.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: But it wasn't a great look. And I spoke with
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: James McCann, the veteran catcher who was a triple A
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: right now, and he said some of the players were
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: frustrated by that. They didn't like seeing that at the
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: same time, Kimberle caught on signed a minor league deal
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: with the Rangers. We'll see if he can get back
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: and make a contribution. But his velo was not great
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: that day, as mccam pointed out, maybe because he flew
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: across country. So we'll see. But you're right, Alan, it
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: was it a great look for the Braves. Was it
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: something that reflected well on them? No?
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: No, Optically it did not look good, Craig, Kimberrell deserves
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: a little bit better. All right, For now, we're going
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: to say goodbye to our great friends over at Neisson Sportsnet,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and Nesson Nation. We appreciate you being here. We
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: say goodbye for now. We'll see you next time.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: For those of you still with us, we appreciate that
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: very much. Ken, I know that you have a game
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: coming up this weekend, very similar to the game that
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: you had last weekend. But before that, the Athletic came
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: out with a survey about it's an anonymou survey. All
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: of the sports do this. Was there anything from those
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: results that surprised you at all? From this anonymous survey
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: that they put.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Out, nothing that surprised me terribly. I always enjoy reading it.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Those anonymous player polls in each sport that the Athletic
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: does are quite entertaining. The one thing that struck me
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: a little bit was Andy McCullough's story on how players
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: we're talking about the biggest misconceptions about travel and missing
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: family events and the reaction of fans in the comments,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: which was predictable. You guys are making all this money.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Shut up. I get it, and I understand why a
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: fan would think that way. We all grow up wanting
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: to be big league ballplayers or professional athletes in some
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: other sport, and we think they have the best life.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: And they do, but keep in mind, their careers only
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: go so long. Not all players are making a gazillion
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: dollars now. Granted, the minimum in baseball is seven sixty five,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: but there are very few who even get to that
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: on a consistent level. So on top of that, they
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: do have challenges, and the challenges include being away from
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: your family for eight months a year, maybe even nine
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: months a year. You might say, well, they get the
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: three months off, yes, but it's not easy, and people
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: who live this, who go through it, it is hard
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: on them. It's a special challenge. Now again, we all
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: want to be those guys. I get it. But at
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: the same time, a little empathy from people at times
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: wouldn't hurt. And a little bit of understanding that these
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: guys also go through things in their jobs, which is
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: what this is job that can be trying on a
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: personal level, and there's nothing wrong with understanding that because
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: at times it does affect guys in ways that we
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: don't even know.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not immune to family members getting sick or
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: all of the things that we all deal with. And
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: people forget that these guys are people before they're professional
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: athletes and players, So keep that in mind. Sixty three
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: percent of players can are against roboumps, which actually surprise
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: a little bit. I thought it would be less than that.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Now let's keep in mind so it's not going to
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: be a one hundred percent full ABS system. But did
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: this surprise you at all, that that many people are
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: opposed to roboumps.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Well, first of all, players are basically opposed to anything
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: manager suggests, So that's kind of way coming from in
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: part each side. If one has an idea, the other
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: says no, we don't like that, almost reflexively. So that's
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: where it starts, but there are players a number of
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: players who do not want to see the human element removed,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: and it would not be with the challenge system. It
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: seems to me a challenge system is something that a
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: lot of players, younger players have grown up with in
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: the minor leagues. Now they're accustomed to it, and it
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: would give the sport the ability to correct the egregious calls. Now,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: the zone is going to be different, and that's a problem.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: But on balance, we know this is coming. Baseball has
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: the right to implement it, and I believe players will
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: get used to relatively quickly.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, we want to definitely say thank you
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: to everybody on Chat BCC as well as YouTube for
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: participating in grill and Ken. Always great to be able
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: to ask Ken these questions and thanks for watching, guys.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Foul Territory is next. Aj Pierzinski, Eric Kratz and of
• 29:14
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• 29:18
  Speaker 2: and Self. Freelick also join those guys Dodger's Territory with
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: myself and Clint Passi as follows, and you will see
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Ken this weekend. Fox Red Sox and The New York
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