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Tuesday 3pm hour 06/16/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Well, howdy ho. There we go.
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  Speaker 2: 307.
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  Speaker 3: What a gorgeous Tuesday afternoon we have here. It's June 16th,
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  Speaker 3: already the middle of June. Can you believe how summer
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  Speaker 3: is flying by? So we are sitting with 76 degrees.
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  Speaker 3: It's pleasant weather. I mean, low humidity, nice breeze. Just
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  Speaker 3: an ideal day out there. Wherever you are, whatever you
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  Speaker 3: might be doing, hope you're enjoying it. We'll proceed on
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  Speaker 3: here this afternoon as always.
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  Speaker 2: 330-729-9977.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get you in touch with us. You're on air. Iran. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Good afternoon, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Richard.
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  Speaker 4: Yesterday was all about Iran, and I'd like to do
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of a pivot today if we could
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  Speaker 4: talk about something a little different. Now that this, if
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  Speaker 4: this is successful, and it looks, you know, if this
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  Speaker 4: ceasefire holds, I think it's going to, alleviate some of
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  Speaker 4: the concern we had going into November, because you're going
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  Speaker 4: to see gas come down, inflation come down, what have you.
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  Speaker 4: And the American public in general has a very short memory. Generally,
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  Speaker 4: what happened in April, May, June will probably soon be
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  Speaker 4: forgotten if everything's way better in September, October, and November.
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  Speaker 4: That said, there's still some things that the Republicans are
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  Speaker 4: doing that trouble me. And the one that I had
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  Speaker 4: sent you a couple articles on it, the thing that
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  Speaker 4: they need to address is some of this H-1B visa stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Explain what that is to our listeners.
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  Speaker 4: An H-1B visa is a special sort of pass that
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  Speaker 4: the government gives you to immigrate to the United States.
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  Speaker 4: if you are in a field that is in demand.
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  Speaker 4: And typically that's healthcare and STEM right now. But you
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  Speaker 4: can also see it in certain computer science, things like that.
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  Speaker 4: So basically you're allowed in. You sort of bypass the
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  Speaker 4: normal immigration process, and we give you a visa that
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  Speaker 4: allows you to come work in the United States. The
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  Speaker 4: theory is because we are short in those areas. maybe
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  Speaker 4: computer engineering, all types of engineering, actually. I mean, the
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  Speaker 4: number of engineering graduates for the last five years has really,
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  Speaker 4: really gone down, which is alarming, and I don't know
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  Speaker 4: how we rectify that, but that's a whole other topic.
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  Speaker 4: But it allows these people to come in, nurses, pharmacists, doctors, engineers,
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  Speaker 4: people like that. Typically, it can be others, but the
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  Speaker 4: Trump administration was supposed to put And businesses like this,
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  Speaker 4: and typically they like it because most of these people
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  Speaker 4: that come here then work for a lot less than
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  Speaker 4: an American worker in an equivalent position with an equivalent degree.
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  Speaker 4: One of the biggest issues, most of these people, a
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  Speaker 4: lot of these people, a good chunk of them are
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  Speaker 4: coming from India. India's biggest export to the United States
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  Speaker 4: is probably human capital, to be perfectly honest with you.
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  Speaker 4: And I wouldn't have a problem with that if... it
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  Speaker 4: was being done on a level playing field. But I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if you remember, this was probably at least
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  Speaker 4: 10 years ago, there was a 60 Minutes article where
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  Speaker 4: Disney used these H-1B visas to replace an entire department.
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  Speaker 4: Their whole, I think it was their computer animation, or
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  Speaker 4: not animation, but the people that ran Walt Disney World,
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  Speaker 4: the parks that ran all the computers and infrastructure behind that.
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  Speaker 4: They hired all these engineers from India on H-1B visas,
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  Speaker 4: brought them over... told the Americans they had to train
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  Speaker 4: them and then they were going to be terminated at
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  Speaker 4: the end of the training period. And if you left
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  Speaker 4: before you trained them, then you didn't get any of
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  Speaker 4: your severance package. That was a 60 Minutes article, like
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  Speaker 4: I said, probably about 10 years ago. And that was
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  Speaker 4: sort of the first time I had ever heard of it.
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  Speaker 2: But now.
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  Speaker 4: It's becoming problematic. And it's flying under the radar for
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  Speaker 4: most people because obviously this doesn't affect you. If you're
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  Speaker 4: not in that field, you're not really affected by it.
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  Speaker 4: But who it's really starting to affect are young graduates
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  Speaker 4: with STEM degrees. My daughter sent me one. Two of
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  Speaker 4: my three kids are engineers, and they see it all
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  Speaker 4: the time, where these companies are trying to hire, instead
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  Speaker 4: of hiring Americans, they're going over and trying to get
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  Speaker 4: these people from foreign countries to come in because they
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  Speaker 4: work for a lot less money. And it's getting to
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  Speaker 4: the point now where a lot of these departments are
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  Speaker 4: more foreign than they are American for a lot of
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  Speaker 4: these companies. So what you're doing then is turning a
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  Speaker 4: young demographic that overwhelmingly voted for Trump, you know, pushed
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  Speaker 4: him over the edge probably in the last election in 24.
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  Speaker 4: And I know a lot of young kids that will
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  Speaker 4: not vote for the Republicans in general. Vivek Ramaswamy, they're
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  Speaker 4: very worried about him because he's Indian and he said
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  Speaker 4: we need to embrace India and, you know, we're going
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  Speaker 4: to need these Indian workers. Sort of what you're seeing
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  Speaker 4: on the general non-H-1B visa with what you saw down
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  Speaker 4: in Springfield with the Haitians and what you're seeing down
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  Speaker 4: in Columbus with the Somalis coming in. Those are political refugees,
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  Speaker 4: but these companies will then say, oh, we need them.
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  Speaker 4: Without them, we can't run our company without these workers,
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  Speaker 4: which is a bunch of hogwash. I think the labor
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  Speaker 4: market is somewhat tight, but if you've got a competitive
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  Speaker 4: pay and benefit package, I don't think you're going to
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  Speaker 4: find employees. But I can tell you right now, there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of young people I know that are turned
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  Speaker 4: off and either won't vote or will vote Democrat instead
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  Speaker 4: of voting Republican this coming fall.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but if they vote Democrat, they're going to vote
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  Speaker 3: for the lunacy. I mean, sometimes it is the lesser
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  Speaker 3: of two evils that you have to look at. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes there isn't always a great choice. And I would
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  Speaker 3: say that was probably, and I don't know about you, most.
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  Speaker 1: Of my life.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't enthusiastically vote for anybody. I looked at this
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  Speaker 3: one seems better than that one. And that was the selection,
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  Speaker 3: with the exception of Trump. I enthusiastically voted for Trump.
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  Speaker 3: So there are exceptions to that. But I mean, so
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  Speaker 3: you'd say, OK, I disagree with Ramaswamy on this.
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  Speaker 1: These visas. And let me put it this way.
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  Speaker 3: When you were talking and you were saying, well, we've
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  Speaker 3: got a shortage of this, a shortage of that. Well,
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  Speaker 3: we've got a lot of shortages supposedly in the labor sector.
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  Speaker 3: We've got a lot of shortages of people that need
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  Speaker 3: roofing crews. We've got shortages of painters. We've got shortages
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  Speaker 3: of a lot of people that do manual labor type work.
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  Speaker 3: So should we say, well, they don't get a special
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  Speaker 3: visa only if you've got this certain degree, only if
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  Speaker 3: you've got The smarts for this degree. And incidentally, was
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  Speaker 3: it not you that sent me an article the other day,
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  Speaker 3: which I've always suspected. How do you know that the
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  Speaker 3: degrees are legit that are coming over here from those countries?
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  Speaker 4: They're not. That was an article. I think it was, what,
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  Speaker 4: 30,000 or 35,000 fake degrees were sold by a diploma mill.
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  Speaker 2: Over in India.
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  Speaker 4: But that's the other issue. You get a lot of
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  Speaker 4: these people in, and when American-trained workers have to start
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  Speaker 4: working with them, they find out these people are incompetent
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  Speaker 4: because they don't know what the heck they're doing. Right.
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  Speaker 3: In other words, people assume that they have the same education,
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  Speaker 3: the same standards as you would have here in America.
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  Speaker 3: But they do not. And in some cases, this is
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  Speaker 3: just all phoniness.
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  Speaker 1: It's all... it's a fraud. They don't even have the background.
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  Speaker 4: You can't buy a degree in our country either. It
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  Speaker 4: may be in very rare cases, but you can't go
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  Speaker 4: to YSU or Ohio State and pay somebody to print
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  Speaker 4: you out a degree and put your name on a
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  Speaker 4: list that says you graduated and got a degree in
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  Speaker 4: mechanical engineering or what have you, you know, medicine, pharmacy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, do you understand?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm always concerned when it's like, well, look
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  Speaker 3: at all these people are here from other countries. Do
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  Speaker 3: they have the same standards as we do with their education? Now,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm sure there are tests that they have to
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  Speaker 3: pass to get here. Once they get here, I would assume,
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  Speaker 3: would you not, to go in?
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  Speaker 4: No, but there are, like, the one thing that surprised
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  Speaker 4: me with engineering, once you graduate, you don't take a test.
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  Speaker 4: It's not a profession, so to speak, the way the
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  Speaker 4: medical professions are where you're board certified. And you have a,
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  Speaker 4: I think your daughter's an engineer, isn't she?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so they don't have to take state board testing to,
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  Speaker 4: you know, certify that they know what they know. They
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  Speaker 4: just graduate with that degree. I'm not sure if teachers
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  Speaker 4: do either, to be honest with you. They've got a
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  Speaker 4: lot of requirements. I'm not sure if they have to
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  Speaker 4: take an exam that says they're qualified to be a teacher.
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  Speaker 4: There are certain professions that don't. Most of your, you know,
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  Speaker 4: professions where you've got lives and things like that at stake,
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  Speaker 4: are required to do that, every medical profession.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not so sure. Well, nursing, you've got to take
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  Speaker 3: your boards for nursing, right?
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  Speaker 4: All the medical fields. I don't know one that you can't.
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  Speaker 4: Even cosmetology and things like that, where you're dealing with
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  Speaker 4: people's health and well-being, you have to have boards.
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  Speaker 3: But what was that story where they were just giving
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  Speaker 3: them degrees, basically? They were buying degrees, right?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they were just paying money and buying degrees. And
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  Speaker 4: apparently that is a big thing in India. that it's very,
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  Speaker 4: you know, if you've got the money and the connections,
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  Speaker 4: it's very easy to go out and buy a phony degree.
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  Speaker 4: So that's not saying that everybody that comes here from
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  Speaker 4: India has that, you know, obviously, I mean, there's the
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  Speaker 4: doctors and the medical professionals are coming over here, still
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  Speaker 4: have to pass boards in this country. So we have
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  Speaker 4: to know something. Um, so, and a lot of those
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  Speaker 4: people probably have real degrees, but you know, 30, 35,000
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  Speaker 4: fake degrees is concerning. Um, So these are issues that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, hopefully this little foreign escapade that we've had
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  Speaker 4: for the last four months is winding down and we
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  Speaker 4: can start to address issues. that need to be addressed
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  Speaker 4: in this country again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I go back to say this.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I understand what you're saying about these visas
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  Speaker 3: and I get it. But so would you say, well,
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  Speaker 3: they either won't vote, which is a mistake, or they'll
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  Speaker 3: vote for the Democrats to go what? Vote for the
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  Speaker 3: crazy agenda that the Democrats stand for? I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, where do the Democrats stand on these visas?
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  Speaker 3: Are they opposed to them? It seems like the Democrats
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  Speaker 3: stand for open borders and letting everybody in.
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  Speaker 4: I can't imagine the Democrats would be opposed to them.
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  Speaker 4: The more the merrier. Hopefully that's a fresh new voter
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  Speaker 4: that they can wrangle, and that's where the Democrats stand.
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  Speaker 3: No, but I'm saying that's a foolish vote. I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to vote for the Democrats. Well, they don't believe in
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  Speaker 3: a secure border in anything. They've got this crazy agenda
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  Speaker 3: of theirs. So you're voting for something worse than... I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's the lesser two evils as opposed to Ramaswami.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's how I would view it.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of people look at it, though, as if
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  Speaker 4: it's a protest vote. And is it really going to
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  Speaker 4: make much of a difference who you vote for? Does
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  Speaker 4: it really change? Like, what disturbed me just now listening
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  Speaker 4: to the news before you came on. was you have
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  Speaker 4: DeWine saying that he believes the death penalty should be abolished.
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  Speaker 4: And he's entitled to that opinion. I'm not a big
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  Speaker 4: fan of the death penalty, personally. But that said, it
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  Speaker 4: would not surprise me, before he leaves office, that he
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  Speaker 4: goes out and commutes all the sentences of those on
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  Speaker 4: death row to life in prison without possibility of parole.
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  Speaker 4: Because I could just see DeWine, that would be his
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  Speaker 4: last parting shot as the little rhino Republican that he is,
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  Speaker 4: to basically, you know, stoop your MAGA Republicans and the
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  Speaker 4: people that believe in law and order and things like
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  Speaker 4: that in the foot. Because he's been nothing but an
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  Speaker 4: obstructionist in the Republican Party the.
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  Speaker 1: Last four years.
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  Speaker 3: He was talking about that and saying, well, maybe the
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  Speaker 3: people of Ohio should get a vote on it.
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  Speaker 2: And..
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't object to that. I mean, I wouldn't object
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  Speaker 4: to that, but I'm just telling you, you mark my word,
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  Speaker 4: before he leaves office, if he doesn't commute all of them,
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  Speaker 4: he will commute a significant number of the death row sentences.
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  Speaker 4: That's my prediction.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you're wrong on that.
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  Speaker 4: He's Catholic, and I mean, I was raised Catholic, and
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  Speaker 4: the death penalty is realistically against..
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  Speaker 2: Your religion.
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  Speaker 4: If you're Catholic, you don't believe in killing anybody for
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  Speaker 4: any reason ever. But I could easily see him. It
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  Speaker 4: would fit right into the DeWine modus operandi, the way
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  Speaker 4: he operates. And remember, whatever the date is today, I
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  Speaker 4: can't remember, but it would not surprise me to see
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  Speaker 4: him do something like that. Not at all.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'll be glad to see when it's his time
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  Speaker 1: to go. I'll be glad to see him go. If you...
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  Speaker 1: Get Amy Acton as governor in Ohio. Good luck.
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  Speaker 4: In that respect, is she really going to be any
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  Speaker 4: worse than DeWine has been? I mean, look at all
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  Speaker 4: the stuff that Dave Thomas passed last year that he
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  Speaker 4: then line item vetoed. You know, we'd have better property
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  Speaker 4: tax reform if DeWine wasn't in there. Although I'm sure
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  Speaker 4: a Democrat would have line item vetoed it, too. But,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's really no better. And that's the argument. Like,
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  Speaker 4: when I talk to my kids about it, that's the
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  Speaker 4: argument they make. They're like, is there really a difference?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think they'll find out that there's a big
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  Speaker 3: difference if Amy Acton wins as far as the taxes
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  Speaker 3: and all the nonsense that you see in a lot
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  Speaker 3: of progressive states.
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  Speaker 1: And then you want to see that in Ohio?
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  Speaker 3: I think there'll be a huge difference and a regret
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  Speaker 3: that they've even went down that road.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Ricardo. Thank you. Appreciate it. Rich, the pharmacist,
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  Speaker 1: starting things off. You're on air.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. That was a bundle of information.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's true.
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  Speaker 3: DeWine did say that today. I got the story right
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  Speaker 3: in front of me. Death penalty announcement from Governor Mike
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  Speaker 3: DeWine today could affect nine inmates on Ohio's death row
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  Speaker 3: who were convicted of capital crimes in the Mahoning Valley.
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  Speaker 2: I was talking about that, the information about these Immigrants
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  Speaker 2: coming in here saying they've got degrees in engineering. That's
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: I just was reading the article the other day where
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  Speaker 3: they say there's a bunch of this. It was somewhere
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  Speaker 3: in India or something that they just had. They didn't
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  Speaker 3: really actually have the degree. It was all phony.
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  Speaker 2: What a way to make a buck. But that's not
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  Speaker 2: why I called.
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  Speaker 1: Here it is. Wait a second.
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  Speaker 3: India's academic sector has been shocked. Stand by for one second.
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  Speaker 3: Let me come right back to you. I'll get right
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  Speaker 3: back to you and take more of your calls. 322
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  Speaker 3: on a gorgeous looking Tuesday afternoon. Ron Furb from the
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  Speaker 3: Kingdom of Mahoning.
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  Speaker 1: 570 WKBN. Here's a new story.
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  Speaker 3: It says Indian University caught selling 36,000 fake degrees as
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  Speaker 3: graduates working.
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  Speaker 1: So they sold all these degrees. And It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: What scares me is now when I go in to
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  Speaker 2: see a doctor or a nurse, and they're from India,
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  Speaker 2: do they really have the education to do it, to
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  Speaker 2: do the job?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think they have to take some type of
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  Speaker 3: boards to get certified here in this country. What about
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  Speaker 3: nuclear physicists?
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  Speaker 2: The ones that are going to work on the nuclear reactors? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it opens up a whole different thing. This
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  Speaker 2: is where my, this is when I start thinking, what if,
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  Speaker 2: what if, what if. But anyhow, I'd like to ask
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  Speaker 2: you to do me a favor.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yes. You need some money or something? You in trouble?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not in trouble.
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  Speaker 2: I'm worried about money.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know if you needed a couple of bucks.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, well, that's it. Where am I going to buy
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  Speaker 2: something for a couple of bucks?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just trying to help you out. That's all.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. I've been reading
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  Speaker 2: here for the past month and a half now. Trump
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  Speaker 2: wants to take the post office and have them check
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  Speaker 2: the absentee ballots. Now, we both understand that there are
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: some areas, California, where it smells rotten fish. Okay. So,
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  Speaker 2: with that in mind... Now the post office is going
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  Speaker 2: to have to take each ballot and figure out whether
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  Speaker 2: that person can actually vote. They've got all they can
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  Speaker 2: do to get the mail out, plus now they've got
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  Speaker 2: to stop it. So these mail-in ballots, each post office
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  Speaker 2: may carry, let's say, a thousand of them, and they
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  Speaker 2: don't have time to check them all out. That's supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be the state's job. So, I mean, he just
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  Speaker 2: wants to corner that up, tie it up, But it
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  Speaker 2: was okay for him to do an absentee ballot. I've
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  Speaker 2: been doing absentee ballots since Reagan, and so has my wife.
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  Speaker 2: And they're going to turn around, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: trust the mail to send it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but here's my question. You've been doing an absentee ballot.
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  Speaker 3: How do I know you're not dead?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm AI. I'm sorry. I should have.
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  Speaker 1: Told you that. I mean, you could be dead for
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  Speaker 1: all I know.
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  Speaker 2: I might be. I don't know yet. I just bit
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: my tongue.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: So..
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: All right, but I said this to you yesterday, and
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: I'd say it to you again today. We do it
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: the right way in the state of Ohio. I mean,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: it's out of control. I was talking to you yesterday,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: and I want to bring that back today. You've been
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: around long enough like I have. Was it that big
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: a deal when you went to vote on Election Day?
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: The polls were open from 6 in the morning. till
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: seven at night. I mean, was that that big a
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: deal during that, what, 13-hour period to actually.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Go down and vote?
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: You could go down really early in the morning or
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: in the evening to vote. I mean, I don't understand
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: why all of a sudden we have like voting month. Like, oh, geez,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: a lot of my life, there was election day. The
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: people that got an absentee ballot were people that were
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: in the military or like pilots or salesmen or people
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: that weren't going to be around, truck drivers during Election Day,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: that they could get an absentee ballot. Those are the
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: people who had to go get absentee ballots. But everyone
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: else we expected to show up on Election Day. Now
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: it's like election month.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. Stand by. Stand by.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Let me do my commercials. I'm coming right back to
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: him in a minute. Ron Verp, NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: 256 NewsRadio 570 WKBN. All right, Heidi Ho, 335 in
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: the afternoon, NewsRadio 570 WKBN. So why is that such
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: a big deal back in the day when I'm tired
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: of this election month?
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, I just think the whole period of time
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: for you to go vote is just getting out of
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: control and way too long.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I kind of disagree with you because, well, they shortened
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: it in the state of Ohio, you know. They shortened
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: that time span, which is okay for me because I
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: can still make it work.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Right, I mean, even if we said it's going to
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: be four days, as far as one day the polls
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: are going to be open, but..
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: It just seems like it's going on for a month.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: And it's getting and it's getting ridiculous.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: We do it the right way in Ohio.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: You show up at the polls. You got to show
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: your ID and then you go vote. And whenever I've
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: gone to the polls whenever I went to vote, I
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: never really had to wait in line very long. It
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: seemed like they always had enough people there, and it
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: moved right along.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Well, you're kind of, you're a unique case in itself,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: being unique as you are anyhow.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Yes, does that mean special? I'm special?
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about that. Trump thinks he's unique.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's special, but anyhow. My wife thinks
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I think I'm unique, but my wife don't think so either.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: But anyhow, as it goes, there's your privilege in yours,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: because you worked in, let's just say, the second trick.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: So you had almost all morning to where you could
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: at least have four hours at 6 o'clock in the morning.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Right, exactly.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: But in my case, or what about the young woman
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: that's got two or three kids, she's got to run
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: up there. And my wife, when she came home, said,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I had to be up there with them kids for,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: you know, 10, 15 minutes and waiting and then have
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: to watch them at the same time. I mean, our
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: kids are great. At that time, they were disciplined. But anyhow,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: the fact of the matter is, is when she did
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: her first absentee ballot, she said, I'm going to do
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: this for the rest of the time. I'm not going
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: to be getting in line and waiting. Mm-hmm. So, I mean,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: that's how that worked. But my question to you is,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: if you were willing to do it, take a week,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: take your little clipboard there that's off on the right-hand
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: side of the desk and draw a line on a
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: clean piece of paper and mark on there who uses
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: the mail-in ballots and who doesn't when they vote. Just
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: to see how that would work out.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Well, I'll say again, I don't have a huge problem
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: with it in the state of Ohio. I mean, I
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: do think we do it the right way in Ohio.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying in the states where they mail everybody
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: a ballot is wrong. I mean, here you have to
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: request one. You have to actually request it.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I agree with you, because I could be dead. I mean,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: I could be AI, like I said, but I'm still
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: saying it. Right. How many states do that now? Just
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: mail them out there.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Well, I think Colorado does that. I think California does.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, I would have to research it more. I
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: know California, Colorado. I'm sure there are others. But I
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: just think that's wrong. Listen, I want there to be
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: security in my vote. Like I said, I don't want
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: to lose confidence in a system. When you're saying to
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: me we're mailing everybody out of ballots, and then I
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: don't know if they moved or if they're dead and
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: who's voting that ballot, it just puts fraud into the system.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: And I think that is wrong. That's wrong.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: What if you're mailing a ballot to somebody that has
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: dementia in the nursing home? Who's voting that ballot? it's
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: strange when you look at that kind of stuff. So
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: you have to eliminate that. In Ohio, we do it
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: the right way. I understand being an old person like yourself,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: you don't like to leave the house, and you don't
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: want to go to the polls and vote. I would
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: think that would be a big day out for you
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: at your age. You'd be looking forward to it. Like, hey, honey,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: guess what? We get to go for a car ride
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: tomorrow and go vote or something like that. You don't
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: look at it that way at your age?
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: No. I'm so used to doing it, like I said,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: from the time... Reagan was in, and that's when I
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: got hooked on it.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean, look at it. Listen, I know
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: you old people and how you are. Like, big days
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: for you when I ask old people like you, hey,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: what are you doing today? Oh, I got to go
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: to the dentist. What are you doing tomorrow? I got
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: to go to the doctor. These are big days for
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: you old people, people like you. It's like every day
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: it's like, oh, I got to go to the grocery store.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: I got to go to the dentist. I got to
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: go to the doctor. I have to go pick up
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: a prescription. That's how you get out of the house.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Isn't that how you old people work?
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, I get out of the house when I feel
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: like getting out of the house. But I'm not in
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: a big push. Why should I?
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, you only go if you have to, what,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: pick up a prescription, go to the doctor, right?
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Or go to a hardware store. Or go get groceries.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Or I'd go.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Get groceries or go someplace where I can get two-cycle
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: oil for my... Right.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Or you say, listen, we can't go now.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: The Price is Right is going to be coming on,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: and I want to see the showcase today. Well, we
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: can't go now because the Jeopardy is coming on and
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: the Wheel of Fortune. We've got to watch that.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I know how you old people operate. I know your days.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I know like the back of my hand.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: The next thing you're going to be telling me is
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I watch all those noon-on shows of the life of– Whatever.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Now, don't be making fun of General Hospital because my
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: wife watches that. She tapes it. And sometimes when I'm there,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: I watch it with her. So don't be making fun
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: of these soap operas because General Hospital's been on forever,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: I want you to know. And it's not a bad show,
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: just so you know.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't waste my time. I could..
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: How would it be then if it was election day
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: and I came down and I picked you up and
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: I took you to the polls to vote? And I said, here,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: I'll drop you off at the door and I'll wait
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: for you out here.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: You want to know something?
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: You'd get tired. You'd get tired waiting. You'd get, what
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: the hell?
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: And listen, I understand how you old people are because
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: you don't want to be in line because dinner is
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: usually at 4.30, right? You like to have dinner by 4.30.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: And then you like to be in bed by, what,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: 9 o'clock. So you can get up at 5 in
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: the morning. For what reason?
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: God only knows. Isn't that what you old people do?
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: When my wife or I make dinner or supper... When
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: it's done, it's done. Whether it's at 4.30, 5 o'clock,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: 6 o'clock, 7 o'clock, it makes no difference. And the
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: things I want to watch on TV, I record so
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I don't have to listen to them stupid commercials.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: So you're doing what? Listen to this. Listen to this,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: you old people. You're doing what you want when you want.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: You're living life kind of wild and free, right?
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know about the wild part.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: No, it sounds to me, all kidding aside, it sounds
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: to me like you're enjoying your retirement.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Is that true?
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Except for my disabilities, yes. Other than that, yeah.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Remind me, what is your disability?
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: I have to walk with a rollator or a walker.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Have to walk with what?
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Have to walk around with a rollator or a walker.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. So it's tough to go out and take
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: a walk around the block or something, right?
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: If it was 10 by 10 feet.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: So I would say a guy like you deserves to
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: have a mail-in ballot because it's tough for you to
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: move around. Like you say, you can't just get up
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: and walk like a lot of other people.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: So I'll throw you that bone.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, what's in the bone?
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I've got to watch my sugar now, you know what
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I mean?
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: A knuckle sandwich.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, wait a minute now. I've already got falsies.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I don't need any more.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Right, right. You're a joy. I enjoy my talks with you.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Thank you for calling.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you something about that guy I just enjoy.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: News Radio 570, WKMU, and you're on the air.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was nice that he could choose whether I'm
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: going to eat at 4 p.m.
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: Or 4.30.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Well, he's retired.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: He can do whatever he wants, whatever he wants.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: That's what he's saying.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: I heard. And the only issue I would have is, okay,
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: you have all this time and you're choosing to do
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: everything else. We're asking you to just vote within this
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: one week and maybe go there.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: But you learned he has a tough time moving and
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: walking in that sense. Listen, I'm not against absentee ballots.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Like I say, there's a reason for them. People in
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: the military, truck drivers, pilots, people that aren't going to
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: be around, or somebody that's got some issues like he has.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I'm cool with that.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: Me too. And thank you for saying truckers because my
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: first four years going to Tamarkin, I was on call 24-7. Well,
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: guess what? I might go to work at 6 a.m.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: and have a 14-hour day. Guess what? I'm out, right?
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: So for those four years, that's what I did because
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: I might miss out, right? You can't have me not vote.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: that's not right uh..
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: The uh..
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Uh..
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: Rich pharmacist uh... recall except for the uh... death penalty
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: thing in the catholic thing just open up the old
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: catechism of the catholic church or uh..
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Uh..
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Look at the canon law you it's it's not against
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: the catholicism it's against uh... some leftist freak from hell
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: like pope leo it's like against some leftist freak from
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: hell like pope francis so just to clear that up
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: Going back to my career at Giant Eagle, Tamarkin, when
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: I went there in 1994, they had a prohibition against
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: having trailers with our own banners on them in Ohio.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: So when you would take a trailer to Ohio, it
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: could not have a giant eagle, you know, big ice
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: cream picture or potato chips or something. It couldn't have
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: that because of the whole farm war mess. And before that,
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: they were in trouble because they were selling jobs So
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: in 1991, they're selling jobs, $ 5, 000. Boom, you get hired.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: And you know what? It was worth every penny. I
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: didn't get the opportunity to do it. I would have.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: It was amazing to get right on instead of be
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: on call for four years. They needed people then. They
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: need people today. So I think we have to shut
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: off the dole.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: People sitting around and not doing anything that can do something.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: We have too many jobs going unfilled. I agree with
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: Rich and the whole thing about the visas, especially the
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: fraudulent ones from India. That's what they do. But we
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: need to put a halt to everything. Remember when Trump
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: in his first term said, stop, we're just stopping immigration.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Stop it. Because we had to, because everything's out of control.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: And so we have people here that won't go to
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: work because somebody might be on the dole, right? And
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: then those people aren't going to work. We have these jobs.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: What do you want the poor business to do? Now,
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: is it skullduggery with Disney and other businesses.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: That do it the bad way?
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: But you hate to have to have so much goddamn
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: regulation in a government, but you have to. The company's
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: scamming you on one side, bringing these people in. The
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: people not going to work are scamming you on the
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: other side. We have to put a stop to it.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: You have to appoint somebody to look at this situation.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: Rich is right. You have to get somebody, but... You
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: have to stop the people from sitting around doing nothing
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: and getting paid for it by our tax dollars. It
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: can't work that way. You're paying people not to work
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: and then bringing foreigners in to do whatever. It's all wrong.
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: So did you enjoy the wrestling matches on Sunday night?
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I said it yesterday. I didn't watch it.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, I actually I didn't I didn't tune into it.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: I'll say it again. Listen, and people might get I
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: don't care if they get upset about it. I just
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: don't listen. I don't go for the White House. I
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: think it's a little bit of sacred ground there. I
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: didn't go for Biden with the what gay pride parade
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: or whatever he had at the White House yesterday. And
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: I don't go for we're going to have this boxing
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: or fighting match at the White House. I mean, it's
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: just I just don't foresee that that's what the White
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: House is there for, for that type of stuff.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's I just I think it belittles the
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: White House.
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: And that's fine, and that's your prerogative. When I found
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: the UFC, I started practicing it in 1994. Went to
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: New York City in 2007 to sign up for the
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: TV show that you didn't watch, The Ultimate Fighter, right?
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: And guess who was there? Donald J. Trump. It's just
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: a thing. It's just an audition, and he's walking around
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: schmoozing everybody.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: That's what he does.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: So you have him and Dana White, who Dana White
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: took over the UFC, and he's about to go under.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: And Trump says, no, look, everything's fine. And Dana White's going, no, no,
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: I'm going to lose everything. And Trump says, why? He says,
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: I can't have it anywhere. They didn't have the rules
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: like the Nevada Athletic Association and blah, blah, blah. Trump says, hey.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: Come to bring it to Trump Taj Mahal and we'll
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: do it there. And Dana White says, I can't afford it.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: There's no way I can afford that. Trump says, we'll
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: work it out. So those two have a very special bond.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: And Trump's been there from the beginning. All I'm saying
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: to you who's worried about, so, right, it's a personal
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: thing for me. That's my sport. And it's either no
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: holds barred fighting or mixed martial arts. Stop saying a
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: wrestling match.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: All right, stand by. Stand by. Stand by.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Back with Jake in a minute. More of your calls
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: straight ahead. 352 on a gorgeous Tuesday.
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