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The Late Debate | 21 May · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lately.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome late, what it's great to have your company.
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  Speaker 3: I'm James macpherson with Liz Staurer and Caleb Bond. Coming
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  Speaker 3: up a little later, one of those only in America stories.
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  Speaker 3: Get this, people in San Francisco who are homeless will
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  Speaker 3: be given taxpayer funded vodka shots as a way of
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  Speaker 3: improving their health.
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  Speaker 4: Get me to sand friends.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be homeless.
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  Speaker 2: It's a good time to be I'm not joking. That's
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  Speaker 2: real news. We'll talk about that a little later.
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  Speaker 3: Plus, when we get to the papers, Anthony Albanesi reveals
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  Speaker 3: his timetable for the next election, and the Adelaide Advertiser
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  Speaker 3: reckons they've found South Australia's most unlucky woman. I thought
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  Speaker 3: that was the woman who failed to date you, Caleb.
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  Speaker 5: There's quite a few of them, kidding a few of them.
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  Speaker 3: Apparently they've found a lady who's gone for five hundred
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  Speaker 3: job interviews, all without success.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about what.
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  Speaker 3: That means for unimp deployment a little later, but first,
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  Speaker 3: you might have expected the death of Iran's president in
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  Speaker 3: a helicopter to be welcome news.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he was, after all, known as.
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  Speaker 3: The butcher of Tehran, and yet such as the moral
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  Speaker 3: fog now enveloping the West his death, this murderous tyrant
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  Speaker 3: was actually mourned by the United Nations, no less by
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  Speaker 3: the BBC and even on the floor of the US Senate.
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  Speaker 3: President Imrahem Razi was responsible for the imprisonment and execution
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  Speaker 3: of tens of thousands of political opponents. More recently, he
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  Speaker 3: was responsible for a violent crackdown on women and girls
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  Speaker 3: whose only crime was not wanting to wear the Islamic hijab.
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  Speaker 3: He oversaw Iran's nuclear weapons program, of course, which was
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  Speaker 3: aimed at the destruction of Israel. And speaking of Israel,
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  Speaker 3: he was responsible recently for that massive missile and drone attack,
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  Speaker 3: the largest drone attack in history, launched again against Israel.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't exactly Mother Teresa. Heck, he wasn't even George Floyd.
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  Speaker 3: And yet the United Nations Security Council had everybody stand
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  Speaker 3: to their feet and observe a moment of silence to
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  Speaker 3: mourn his passing. Little wonder, the Israeli ambassador to the
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  Speaker 3: United Nations was less than impressed.
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  Speaker 6: The UN Security Council dedicated a moment of silence in
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  Speaker 6: memory of the mass murdering president of Iran RACI. What
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  Speaker 6: a disgrace This Council, which has taken no real steps
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  Speaker 6: to advance the release of our hostages, abowed its head
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  Speaker 6: for a man responsible for massacring and murdering thousands in Iran,
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  Speaker 6: in Israel and around the globe. What's next? Will the
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  Speaker 6: Council dedicate a moment of silence to commemorate Hitler? The
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  Speaker 6: Security Council has become a threat to global peace and security.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 3: Those who stood to mourn the passing of the Iranian
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  Speaker 3: president included America's ambassador to the United Nations. When Matt Miller,
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  Speaker 3: the US State Department spokesman, was asked why did the
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  Speaker 3: US representative stand, he said, and I quote some of
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  Speaker 3: the worst human rights abuses occurred during his tenure as president,
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  Speaker 3: especially the human rights abuses against the women and girls
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  Speaker 3: of Iran. That said, we regret any loss of life.
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  Speaker 3: We don't want to see anyone die in a helicopter crowd.
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  Speaker 2: And I guess the big mistake.
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  Speaker 7: Mate, I've got a list of names that would have
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  Speaker 7: crammed aboard had I known the thing was going to
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  Speaker 7: go down. What is this talk pretending like all lives
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  Speaker 7: are equal, and we'd hate to be seen to rejoice
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  Speaker 7: over a set the loss of some lives are an
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  Speaker 7: absolute service to humanity.
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  Speaker 1: Do me a favor.
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  Speaker 2: Hitler shouldn't have shot himself in the head.
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  Speaker 3: He should have gone down in a helicopter and history
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  Speaker 3: would have been very different.
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  Speaker 7: Look.
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  Speaker 5: Look, shortly after they had Osama bin Laden killed, they
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  Speaker 5: should have all come out and said.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, we're very sorry we had to do that. You know,
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  Speaker 4: loss of life. We don't like it. It is utterly.
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  Speaker 5: Absurd and like the comparison to Hitler is a stark one,
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  Speaker 5: but it's so true. I mean, this bloke was a murderous,
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  Speaker 5: dictatorial thug going all the way back to the eighties,
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  Speaker 5: his involvement in the killing of political dissidence for all
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  Speaker 5: those decades, and that anyone in any Western nation, let
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  Speaker 5: alone any other part of the world, would stand up
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  Speaker 5: at the moment and dedicate a moment silence or talk
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  Speaker 5: about how sorry they are for the people who around him.
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  Speaker 4: And even NATO got in honor.
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  Speaker 5: They said, this is the NATO spokesperson Farah Dakkala, our
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  Speaker 5: condolences to the people of Iran for the death of
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  Speaker 5: President Raci. Foreign Minister Amir Abdolihan and others who perished
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  Speaker 5: in the helicopter crash.
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  Speaker 7: How many times do I have to tell you NATO
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  Speaker 7: are the original bad guys since nineteen eighty nine.
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  Speaker 1: None of you ever agree with me.
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  Speaker 7: But when they start showing their colors like that, you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 7: wait a.
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  Speaker 1: Minute, maybe they're no better than the UN.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 5: But but Iran and NATO were on different sides of
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  Speaker 5: the Ukraine Russia War.
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  Speaker 4: But we were not going to open I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm simply saying.
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  Speaker 7: We're not going to open that CAD.
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  Speaker 5: I understand, I understand, And even the US Senate, for
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  Speaker 5: Heaven's sake, I mean, their chaplain got up and spoke
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  Speaker 5: about you know, we're so sorry for the loss of life.
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  Speaker 5: I'm expecting this treatment when I cart it.
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  Speaker 8: And Lord, we pray for the Iranian people who mourn
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  Speaker 8: the death of their president. We pray in your loving name.
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  Speaker 5: Actually, I think in Iran it's going something more like this.
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  Speaker 5: And of course they'd be happy to see the bloat dead,
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  Speaker 5: the subjugation of women, the killing of people who disagreed
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  Speaker 5: with him. Why would anyone celebrate? I was going to say,
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  Speaker 5: celebrate the death. Everyone should be celebrating the death. Why
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  Speaker 5: would anyone commemorate the death of a man like that.
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  Speaker 5: It reminds me of when Fidel Castro finally carct it
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  Speaker 5: and you had all these lefties coming out and oh,
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  Speaker 5: it's so sad. What a terrible moment for Cuba, What
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  Speaker 5: a terrible moment for the world. You know, the man
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  Speaker 5: that caused eighty thousand Cubans to flee on boats, most
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  Speaker 5: of whom died at sea, Who put gays in internment camps,
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  Speaker 5: who kept Cuba behind for so long, to the point
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  Speaker 5: where they're still driving around in nineteen fifties cars because
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  Speaker 5: there's nothing else they can get around in, where there's
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  Speaker 5: internet censorship.
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  Speaker 4: On and on it goes.
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  Speaker 5: These people get lionized. I do not cry for one
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  Speaker 5: moment for the fact that the president of Iran is dead,
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  Speaker 5: or any other dictatorial thug in the world.
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  Speaker 4: They should all be popped off.
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  Speaker 7: The only people who are genuinely mourning his passing are
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  Speaker 7: the friends and family of the people the innocence he murdered,
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  Speaker 7: who were in fact holding out hope that one day
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  Speaker 7: he would face some sort of justice for the crimes
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  Speaker 7: against humanity that he perpetuated on their nearest and dearest.
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  Speaker 7: But get this from the BBC world. These guys call
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  Speaker 7: themselves the world's most trusted international news broadcaster.
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  Speaker 1: Get their headline.
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  Speaker 7: They say, President Ibrahim Racey's mixed legacy in Iran?
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  Speaker 1: What the heck is mixed about it?
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  Speaker 7: The murder part, the right part, the mass executions part.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, in order for it to be mixed, there's
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  Speaker 7: got to be some good in there somewhere, right, What
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  Speaker 7: the heck about it is a mixed BBC. Well, thank
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  Speaker 7: god for Community Notes, which was slapped on their tweet
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  Speaker 7: version of that headline, which quickly made sure everyone knew
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  Speaker 7: that Ibrahim races Name was the butcher of Tehran as
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  Speaker 7: a result of his mass murder and brutal torture of
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  Speaker 7: political dissidence, his victims, numbering in the thousands, included children.
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  Speaker 7: Once again, thank you to Elon Musk for his platform
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  Speaker 7: X where we can actually let people know the truth
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  Speaker 7: of the matter. This is literally like saying Stalin's mixed
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  Speaker 7: legacy in Russia.
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  Speaker 1: Find me one Russian who likes the guy.
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  Speaker 7: And let's keep in mind when we talk about the
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  Speaker 7: tens of thousands of political dissidents that this guy oft.
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  Speaker 7: They were simply disagreeing with the radical Islamic regime that
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  Speaker 7: is in place iron clad in that country. Like you said, Mac,
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  Speaker 7: all you have to do is not where you're head
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  Speaker 7: covering properly, and that's your life gone.
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  Speaker 3: Talking about the Iranian president's mixed legacy, it's like describing
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  Speaker 3: Idio min as a colorful character.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the sort of language.
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  Speaker 5: Give my dear. Yes, I know, I know you think
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  Speaker 5: of the Iran of like the nineteen sixties versus the
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  Speaker 5: Iran of Todship and how much it has changed and
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  Speaker 5: what people like him did to drive that change.
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  Speaker 4: The fact that anyone.
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  Speaker 5: In the West would mourn his death is an absolute disgrace.
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  Speaker 5: Let's come back to Australia now, where, of course, we've
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  Speaker 5: been talking a febit recently about the Safety Commissioner Julie
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  Speaker 5: Inman Grant. After first she went after a bloke on
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  Speaker 5: X of course, formerly Twitter goes by the screen name
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  Speaker 5: of Billboard Chris, who dared to make some criticism of
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  Speaker 5: the UN for a transgender person it had employed to
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  Speaker 5: advise it on health. This person, meanwhile, I'd been posting
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  Speaker 5: on Instagram about bestiality and all sorts of things. And
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  Speaker 5: then of course she went after X again for allowing
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  Speaker 5: videos to be posted of Bishop mah Mai am Manuel
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  Speaker 5: being stabbed at his church about a month ago. Of course,
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  Speaker 5: in the first instance they won that case in court.
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  Speaker 5: There was an injunction put in place where those videos
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  Speaker 5: had to be covered up. Last week that was changed
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  Speaker 5: and thank goodness. But it turns out the E Safety Commissioner,
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  Speaker 5: apart from running around telling people on the other side
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  Speaker 5: of the world what they should and should not be
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  Speaker 5: able to post on X for people to view in Australia,
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  Speaker 5: she's also monitoring absolutely everything that.
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  Speaker 4: You say about her.
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  Speaker 5: Now, look, it's not unusual for organizations, media organizations, government
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  Speaker 5: departments to have what we call media monitoring where they
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  Speaker 5: people sit there and listen to the radio and go
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  Speaker 5: through newspapers and look for mentions of government departments. But
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  Speaker 5: they have contracted someone. The E Safety Commissioner has contracted
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  Speaker 5: someone to go through every single tweet that is posted
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  Speaker 5: with Julie Inman Grant tagged or mentioned in it.
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  Speaker 4: They are not just tweet So if.
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  Speaker 7: You write on Facebook about her, so any of the
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  Speaker 7: meta platforms, Instagram, even Reddit. This is literally even if
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  Speaker 7: you have a private blog that mentions her that's what
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  Speaker 7: meltwater this contractor that they've got to do this. So
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  Speaker 7: it's not just X, it's every platform on social media.
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  Speaker 1: She wants to know what you've said.
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  Speaker 5: They're going through all of it, right, they want to
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  Speaker 5: know what you're saying about her, when you're saying it,
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  Speaker 5: why you're saying it. And they've even gone down The
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  Speaker 5: allegation is they've gone down to the minutia of the
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  Speaker 5: people who have been posting it. This is a story,
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  Speaker 5: by the way, from an independent journalist in Wa, Rebecca Barnett.
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  Speaker 5: She sent off an FOI request to find out whether
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  Speaker 5: these reports existed, and of course they came back and
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  Speaker 5: she has since written an article about it, which went
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  Speaker 5: up today on.
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  Speaker 4: Her substack blog.
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  Speaker 5: But she has spoken to a bloke who was putting
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  Speaker 5: stuff on Twitter about Billboard Chris when the e Safety
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  Speaker 5: Commissioner was going after him, and he's got evidence that
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  Speaker 5: the E Safety Communite, well know, probably not Julian mcgrand herself,
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  Speaker 5: but staff of the Safety Commissioner had gone and had
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  Speaker 5: a look at his wife's LinkedIn Because of course, when
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  Speaker 5: you get and have a look at someone's LinkedIn, it
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  Speaker 5: sends them a little email to say that they've looked.
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  Speaker 4: At your profile.
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  Speaker 5: So they are that concerned that they are going into
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  Speaker 5: the minutii of the family of people who criticize the
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  Speaker 5: E Safety Commissioner online. That is how much they care.
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  Speaker 5: So you know they'll probably have an injunction against them
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  Speaker 5: very soon as well. You can't say anything at all anywhere.
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  Speaker 3: According to the FOI request, she's getting three to four
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  Speaker 3: reports every day containing between seventy and eight thousand mentions
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  Speaker 3: anywhere on social media. You talk about people being obsessed
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  Speaker 3: with social media. With the E Safety Karen, she's very
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  Speaker 3: concerned to know what everybody thinks about her and tweets
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  Speaker 3: even that we're viewed by just two people, and yet
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  Speaker 3: she is personally notified who's saying nasty things about her.
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  Speaker 3: I think the solution to this, Liz, is we should
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  Speaker 3: bury her in data.
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  Speaker 2: We should he mention anything.
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  Speaker 3: On Facebook, on Twitter, just include her tag in it,
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  Speaker 3: so that she's just inundated with so much information it
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  Speaker 3: becomes useless.
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  Speaker 1: She's got to be.
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  Speaker 7: The most sensitive authoritarian ever. This woman's got thinner skin
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  Speaker 7: than he for a rog I mean, he literally lays
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  Speaker 7: out the numbers. On the fifteenth of April, which was
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  Speaker 7: the day of the stabbing, two hundred and thirty nine mentions,
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  Speaker 7: that's all she had online, Not many people, not much action.
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  Speaker 7: Less than ten days later, on the twenty fourth of April,
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  Speaker 7: there was over thirty one thousand mentions. So whoever's doing
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  Speaker 7: that job at e Safety now going through these massive
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  Speaker 7: reports of who said what about the East Safety Commissioner today,
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  Speaker 7: they're probably gonna need to onboard more staff. And of
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  Speaker 7: course there's not many nice comments, is there, because Australians
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  Speaker 7: like never before, are now aware that this woman exists,
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  Speaker 7: that our government has foisted onto us, this net nanny that.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody voted for, nobody wanted.
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  Speaker 7: Who's just silently censoring what Australians Kennon can't see and
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  Speaker 7: ken And can't say.
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  Speaker 1: That is her job.
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  Speaker 7: And it turns out she's doing a brilliant job, except
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  Speaker 7: when she gets herself international attention like this because her
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  Speaker 7: overreach is so unhinged, not a single soul in Australa
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  Speaker 7: is like, yeah, back your Julian mngrant could call on
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  Speaker 7: the whole stabbing video thing. No, everyone's just like you're ridiculous.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, there were even people on ABC's Q and
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  Speaker 7: A who I mean, must be a cold day in hell.
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  Speaker 7: We don't agree on much. I'm sure we can all
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  Speaker 7: agree on that who were questioning the wisdom of how
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  Speaker 7: far this woman had gone to censor something that literally
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  Speaker 7: was not worth the censorship. But get this, as this
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  Speaker 7: affidavit has come out telling everyone about what melt water
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  Speaker 7: is doing. By the way, how much is that costing
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  Speaker 7: the taxpayer, we find out something else is costing the
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  Speaker 7: taxpayer because then E Safety has gone all these nasty
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  Speaker 7: comments online.
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  Speaker 1: The East Safety Commissioner isn't safe.
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  Speaker 7: They've got the AFP involved, the New South Wales Police
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  Speaker 7: Force involved.
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  Speaker 1: Again, thanks taxpayer.
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  Speaker 7: All for this woman that again nobody wanted.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone hates her job. We all agree she shouldn't even exist,
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  Speaker 1: not her personally, but the job, the role. Okay, let's
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  Speaker 1: be careful about that.
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  Speaker 7: But how are Australians supposed to feel knowing that every
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  Speaker 7: word we say about this very sensitive authoritarian woman is
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  Speaker 7: being collated, studied, presented several times a day.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, A, it's self obsessed and B what are
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  Speaker 1: you trying to do? They've told the public it's to
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  Speaker 1: monitor public sentiment.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I hope you're taking notes, because it sounds like.
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  Speaker 1: You're getting plenty of it.
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  Speaker 3: Initially means every Australian now who's said anything untoward about
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  Speaker 3: the e Safety Commissioner, who has already shown her propensity
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  Speaker 3: for censorship, you're.
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  Speaker 2: Now on a list and do the math.
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  Speaker 3: At the same time, the government are pushing through their
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  Speaker 3: digital identity, so I wonder if they'll connect the digital
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  Speaker 3: identity with any social media violations you may have made
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  Speaker 3: against the Safety Commissioner and sort of put those together.
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  Speaker 5: Traditionally, if you wanted to work out public sentiment, you
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  Speaker 5: just get a polling company to go and do a
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  Speaker 5: poll and they'd come back to in a couple of
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  Speaker 5: weeks and they tell you what the public sentiment was, right, Like,
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  Speaker 5: I'm happy to be corrected, but I'm pretty sure there's
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  Speaker 5: no one in the Prime Minister's private office who receives
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  Speaker 5: a report every single day of every single social media
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  Speaker 5: post that has been made about the Prime minister.
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  Speaker 2: Well the Prime minister does monitor?
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  Speaker 4: Mean yes, well, well he lets him. That's just him
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  Speaker 4: doing it.
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  Speaker 5: Does that's him doing it personally, I assume, But not
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  Speaker 5: when he's in the back of cars because remember he doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Have access time.
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  Speaker 5: Oh but media monitoring is normal. They monitor what's said
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  Speaker 5: on radio, any newspapers. But I don't think that there
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  Speaker 5: would be a politician in the country who is having
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  Speaker 5: a report brought to them every day on every that
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  Speaker 5: he said about them on social media. It takes media
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  Speaker 5: monitoring to a whole new level.
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  Speaker 7: Speaking of a whole new level, Victorians, you might want
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  Speaker 7: to start building molts around your property because today your
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: premiere to Center Allen decided to say that we're not
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  Speaker 7: even ruling out giving compulsorily acquired land to this whole
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  Speaker 7: Indigenous groups treaty settlement that they're working on in the
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  Speaker 7: state of Victoria.
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  Speaker 1: We'd asked today if she would rule this out.
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  Speaker 7: She said, after two hundred years of colonization, where this
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  Speaker 7: state took away lands in the settlement, murdered people and
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  Speaker 7: took away culture.
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  Speaker 1: And language, we are not going to be ruling out
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  Speaker 1: anything in or out.
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  Speaker 7: As we go to the negotiation table in regards to treaty.
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  Speaker 7: She said she wouldn't even rule out dedicating seats in
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  Speaker 7: the Victorian Parliament to Indigenous people.
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  Speaker 1: So when they say everything's.
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  Speaker 7: On the table, literally mean everything is on the table, Like,
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  Speaker 7: why shouldn't every single Victorian beyond tenter hooks after this
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  Speaker 7: Because they're not mincing their words when they say everything's
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  Speaker 7: on the table.
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  Speaker 1: It appears the Premier very much means absolutely everything.
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  Speaker 3: I should point out it wasn't the Premier who said that,
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  Speaker 3: it was the Treaty Minister Natalie Hutchins speaking on behalf
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  Speaker 3: of the premier. But I reckonize, well, if they're going
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  Speaker 3: to compulsorily acquire property and hand it over to the
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Indigenous people in Victoria, well you would start with Jacinta
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Ellen's home, followed by the Deputy Premier Ben Carroll, maybe
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Dan Andrews's place. We could repossess that Manik Bryan is
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: in Victoria. I'm sure she'd be happy to hand over
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: her property. I mean, this is just unbelievable. You've got
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: one percent of Victoria are Indigenous people.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: There's zero mandate for this, and for the.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Government to be negotiating a treaty on behalf of Victorian's
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: but refusing to rule anything in or out and making
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: incendiary comments like that after two hundred years of colonization
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: and murder and dispossession and well, everything's on the table.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, you would be mad if you were John Pascito,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: you would be mad not to make this the key
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: cornerstone of your campaign at the next election.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: But he is mad.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: We're no way you do that to hope.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Well he should.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: You'd want to hope the table isn't a trestle table,
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: because there's a lot of bloody weight on top of
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: that table right now. I mean, how hard is it
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: to simply rule out that you would just hold us
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: bowl as hand land over to.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Indigenous people, like you could say.
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: Look, it may well be a discussion in the future
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: that through Native title there are certain lands that are handled,
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: but that's out of the control of the SAD government.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: How hard is it to say, no, we're not going.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: To have dedicated seats in Parliament on the basis of race,
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: and no, we're not going to hand land to certain
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: people on the basis of race.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: It ain't hard to say it, though it is.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: It was funny to note that Miss Hutchins, when she
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: was asked this question about whether or not there would
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: be dedicated seats for Indigenous people, she said, look, you know,
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: it's nothing in all out, but the sentiment I get
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: from indigenous people is that Parliament is a quote unquote
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: aggressive place and they don't really want to be here anyway,
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: by which she's saying, we're probably.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Not going to give them the seats.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: But how funny is that she's buying into this idea, Oh,
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: you know, this is this terrible white colonial place. They
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: don't even want to come and engage with us. Well,
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: they don't want to come and engage. And my understanding
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: of a treaty is that it is an agreement between
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: two peoples who then say that, you know, we've sorted
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: all the problems out and from here on we carry
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: on as one. That's what a treaty is meant to
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: be about. That's not what they're talking about here. What
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: they're talking about is furthering the division, which surely is
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: as far away from what a treaty ought to be.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: So what's going on with the Victorian government because either
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: they literally do not know what a treaty is going
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: to look like, which is frightening that they would don't
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: think they do headlong into this thing with no idea
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: what they're going to end up with. I mean, that's
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: the worst kind of leadership you can imagine or on
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: the other hand, have they got something in mind but
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: they don't want to upset either Indigenous people or the
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: rest of the community.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: What games are they playing here now?
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think they do have any idea.
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: They're trying to figure out what will appease.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Because they're the ones who have put together.
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: There's about twelve Indigenous people involved here.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: So they're the ones. They're actually smarter than some states.
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: Queensland was talking about making a treaty with each different
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: tribe and there's tens and tens of different tribes in Queensland,
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: whereas at least Victoria's going, no, no, we're going to
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: statewide approach.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: We're just going to get a.
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: Group of about a dozen Indigenous Aussies together.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: You guys, at the end of.
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: This process, this path to treaty, will have an idea
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: of what that looks like. But the unfairness that this
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: foists on the taxpayer is just indescribable. This idea of
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: collective guilt where we now collectively owe millions upon millions
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: of dollars.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: That's what this equals.
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: Whether it's land, whether it's reparations, whatever form those reparations take,
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: it's going to be very, very expensive, and people are
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: paying this out having absolutely nothing to do with what
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: happened two hundred years ago.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: And then, if you want.
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: To follow that line of argument, how about people whose
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: ancestors fought for the indigenous cause and have done for years,
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: for decades and decades.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Why are they being made to payout?
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: And immigrants have only rocked up in the last like
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: fifty years or so, what's it got to do with them?
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: They were involved in it.
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: It's parentally unfair and there is absolutely no end to
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: this because ten years from now, twenty years from now,
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: this same body of people can still be like, well,
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: we would have been better off if you guys had
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: never come, and so what more reparations?
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: It just never ever ends.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: And let's not forget it was only three minutes ago
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: that sixty percent of Australians voted no to the Voice,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: which most people well understood was also connected intrinsically to treaty.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Let's go to the Middle East, where the world's response
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: to events there gets increasingly ridiculous. News today that the
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court is seeking arrest
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: warrants for Benjamin nettin Yahoo and his Defense minister now
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Joe Biden has described this move as outrageous. But our
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi, well, he says he can't possibly
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: comment on an issue before the court. Let's go through
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: all of those reactions. We'll start with Karim Kahan. He's
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: the chief prosecutor at the ICC. Here's what he had
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: to say in announcing his request for these arrest warrants.
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: The crimes include starvation of civilians as a method of warfare,
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: willfully causing great suffering, serious injury to body or health,
• 23:58
  Speaker 9: or cruel treatment, will feel killing or murder, and intentionally
• 24:03
  Speaker 9: directing attacks against a civilian population, as well as crimes
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: against humanity of extermination and or murder.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Ji'd think it was Israel who launched an attack on
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: October seven. I might point out those two characters in
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: the background. They stood there like that for fully ten
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: minutes without changing expression. Very serious, is Israeli Prime Minister there,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: they are, very somber. Benjaminette Nyahu, the Israeli President, he
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: was his response.
• 24:35
  Speaker 10: The outrageous decision by the ICC prosecutor Karim Khan to
• 24:39
  Speaker 10: seek arrest warrants against the democratically elected leaders of Israel
• 24:43
  Speaker 10: is a moral outrage of historic proportions. It will cast
• 24:48
  Speaker 10: an everlasting mark of shame on the International Court. Mister
• 24:52
  Speaker 10: Khank creates a twisted and false moral equivalence between the
• 24:55
  Speaker 10: leaders of Israel and the henchmen of Kramas. This is
• 24:59
  Speaker 10: like creating a moral equivalents after September eleventh between President
• 25:03
  Speaker 10: Bush and Osama bin Laden, or during World War Two
• 25:06
  Speaker 10: between FDR and Hitler. What a travesty of justice, What
• 25:10
  Speaker 10: a disgrace.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: That's a prime minister of Israel. Lizzy's absolutely right, isn't it?
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: To put Hamas and the leadership of the only democracy
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: in the Middle East on the same footing and accuse
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: both of war crimes is so ridiculous.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: It would be funny if it wasn't so serious.
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: But nobody expects anything different from these guys. I mean,
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: it's the ICC, so they've got their South Africa's case
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: against Israel, being like, these guys are just genosidol maniacts.
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: They've entertained all of this, and these guys are.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: The International Criminal Court. This is supposed to where you take.
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: These claims and instead of throwing them out, they are
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: the ones who are entertaining it.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: They are the.
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: Ones who are stupid enough to put that guy in
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: front of a camera. Give it that kind of merit
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: and wait, instead of saying this is an absolute in embarrassment,
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: we cannot be seen to say this, and would you
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: believe it? Of all the people in the world, President
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: Joe Biden was able to read the teleprompter for long
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: enough to back Net and Yahoo to the hilt.
• 26:14
  Speaker 11: Today, let me be clear, we reject the ICC's application
• 26:19
  Speaker 11: for rest warrants against aswell as leading. When one of
• 26:25
  Speaker 11: these warrants may imply there is no equivalence between Israel
• 26:28
  Speaker 11: and Hamas, and it's clear to all do all it
• 26:35
  Speaker 11: can to ensure civilian protection. But let me be clear,
• 26:38
  Speaker 11: contrary to allegations against Israel made by the International Court
• 26:41
  Speaker 11: of Justice, what's happening is not genocide.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: We reject that. We will always stand with Israel.
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: Now compare the pair, because it's a very dark day. Indeed,
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: my friends, when our own prime minister is shown up
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: by that senile old man and check it out, you're.
• 27:02
  Speaker 12: Pretan Joe Biden seeing your restlance on Israelas is outrageous.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: You agree, well, I don't comment on court processes in Australia,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: let alone court processes globally, which Australia is not a party.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: You agree with, Jim, I.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Just answered the same question.
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: I just I just dodged that question. Please don't repeat it.
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: Do me a favor. We all know who side you're ron.
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: How easy is it to go? Yes, it's outrageous. Ditto
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: that well, Thank God for Peter Dutton being our Prime
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: Minister today because heaven knows, otherwise we wouldn't have one here.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: He was stepping in to fill the breach. Yet again, I.
• 27:47
  Speaker 13: Very strongly support to the comments of Joe Biden today
• 27:50
  Speaker 13: in relation to the ICC. It's an abomination and it
• 27:54
  Speaker 13: needs to be ceased. This action is anti Semitic and
• 27:58
  Speaker 13: it is against the self peace in the Middle East.
• 28:01
  Speaker 13: Either the prominise is not across the detail, or he's
• 28:04
  Speaker 13: trying to please a domestic audience here for political purposes.
• 28:08
  Speaker 13: Either way, he's selling out Australia and that is not
• 28:11
  Speaker 13: helping our interests internationally. And to draw an equivalence between
• 28:16
  Speaker 13: Israel and Amas, I think is repugnant.
• 28:20
  Speaker 14: There you go, Albert Easy, that's what you should have said.
• 28:23
  Speaker 14: That is how it's done. I hope you're home taking notes,
• 28:26
  Speaker 14: but of course you're not. I mean, this has got
• 28:29
  Speaker 14: to take the cake.
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: I know that we've beat Albanezi up over his limp wristed,
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: utterly pathetic, yellow bellied stance on this entire war from
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: beginning to end. But today when he could not even.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Say, yes, this is a joke, I YEA.
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: Comprehensively condemn this move by the ICC would have taken
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: him a few seconds to say. Instead he says, oh,
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: I don't comment on international court cases.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: That's funny because just today and yesterday you were.
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: Commenting on the international court case surrounding Julian Assange.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: So it's pathetic. It's just absolutely pathetic. But then presumably
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: at some point Penny Wong has to make some kind
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: of comment as Foreign Minister on this right, like the
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: government cannot at any point refuse to make a comment.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: So when I think he just shd.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Well, she actually has.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Tonight she's made a comment in support of the International
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Criminal Court saying that the Australian government supports and recognizes
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: their independence.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: So there you go.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: So the Prime Minister, on one hand says we can't
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: get involved because this is a court proceeding overseas and
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: therefore it's out of my jurisdiction. And then the Foreign
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: Minister comes out and says we support it. Now, of
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: course that's not the answer we would have preferred her
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: to give.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: But which one is true? We don't get involved, you know,
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: we do get we.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Know, we have a silly thing about this, like I
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: can't comment on an issue before a court, it's not
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: a real court. And we don't make our own foreign
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: policy subservient to some globalist body that's essentially a bureaucracy
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: with no real teeth or bite. And suddenly we're not
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: allowed as Australians to know what our own government thinks
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: because of a court in where they based in Europe somewhere.
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: Oh, they call themselves an independent body, right, But the
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: ICC came about because of one of the useless treaties
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: of the UN, which are also pathetic and toothless. So
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: now the ICC exists at the behest of the UN,
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: but they're.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Not the UN.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Did you see Alexander Downer's comments today, because he was
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: the Foreign Minister when Australia joined the treaty that made
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: a subject to the ICC, and he described it as
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: a moment of intense idealism, and he now regrets that
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: he ever signed Australia up to this.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: Look, it's basically like an arbitration commission essentially. But you know,
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: we're putting out a warrant for a rest and give
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: me a break.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Karim Kahan.
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: I don't know whether there's any of it, but he
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: probably gave a minute silence to the former president of
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: Iran before.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: He gave his speech.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: That's the sort of people we're dealing with here. Let's
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: move back to Australia now, where of course we've talked
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: about Snowy Hydro two point oh a little bit recently,
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: and the fact that this thing is probably never going
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: to get off the ground, the fact that it keeps
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: costing billions and billions of dollars more, the fact that
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: the boring machine that of course last year got stuck,
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: which meant they couldn't keep digging the hole to build
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: this thing. They finally got the thing unstuck towards the
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: start of the year.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: It kept going for a few months, and lo and.
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: Behold, by the start of March, sorry Sat of May,
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: it was stuck again. Things are going swimmingly over at
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: Snowy Hydro two point Oh, thank you Malcolm Turnbull for
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: the expense.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: But and I know what a great legacy.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: Author Alan Lawrenson, he's recently written a book about Australia's
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: energy mix and the energy crisis that we are walking into.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: And he had a stark rebel this morning on ben
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: Fordham's breakfast program on two GP. What about snowy two.
• 32:07
  Speaker 12: I don't think snowy too will ever generate omega watt
• 32:10
  Speaker 12: of power?
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Excuse me, I.
• 32:13
  Speaker 12: Don't think it will ever generate power.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Do you know how much it's costing?
• 32:18
  Speaker 12: US thirteen billion is the latest estimate.
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: Florence doesn't seem to be moving.
• 32:22
  Speaker 12: Let's face it, Florence a slow on, slow on moving.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: You don't think Snowy too will produce power.
• 32:27
  Speaker 12: That's my personal view. And by the way, recently I
• 32:30
  Speaker 12: was at a conference and I discussed with a number
• 32:33
  Speaker 12: of energy experts and I wasn't alone in that assessment.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: G were do him well, aren't we not a single millawat?
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: And he's not the only one who thinks that we
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: are going to Helen.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: The only thing Snowy two point zero is pumping is
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: taxpayer dollars down the toilet. This thing was announced in
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: twenty seventeen. It was meant to be two billion dollars.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: The cost has been adjusted up five times. It's now
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: thirteen billion. It was meant to be completed in four years,
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: but the completion date has been changed six times. It's
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: now hopefully completed by twenty twenty eight. The Florence, the
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: boring machine that was mentioned and that you spoke about, Caleb,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: it's moved eight hundred meters in the last twelve months.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: The good news is it's only got sixteen kilometers to go,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: so it's looking good.
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: Hang in there, guys, we are going to see a
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: return on this investment or in twenty twenty eight. Just
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: hold on to your hats. It's got to be marvelous.
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: It's got to be worth it.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Well to the Netherlands.
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: Now very sad story. We're a young woman who's not
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: yet thirty has decided that she would like to access
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: assisted suicide because she struggles with anxiety. Here's a grab
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: of her letting us all know about her decision. Hello,
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: Madame Chelia, and I'm twenty eight years of all.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I live in an.
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: Avalance and recently my you tunicha regress for my mental
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: suffering got approved.
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: And they say the slippery slope doesn't exist. How many
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: times have we been told that. Here's a quote from her. Also,
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: she says, in the three and a half years this
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: has taken, I e the approval. I've never hesitated about
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: my decision.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I have felt guilts.
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: I have a partner, family, friends, and I'm not blind
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: to their pain, and I've felt scared, but I'm absolutely
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: determined to go through with it.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: They'll start me by giving a sedative.
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: Won't give me the drugs that will stop my heart
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: until I'm in a coma.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: For me, it will be like falling asleep. My partner
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: will be.
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: There, but I've told him it's okay if he needs
• 34:42
  Speaker 7: to leave the room.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Now the points come, we're ready for it, and we're.
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: Finding a certain piece. I feel guilty too, but sometimes
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: when you love someone, you have to let them go.
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: So governments around the world spend millions of dollars in
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: suicide prevention, but here we have the Dutch government allowing
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: a woman who simply struggles with anxiety, as so many
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: people do, simply saying, oh, you think it's time to go.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Well, will help you out too.
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: And this is what I've always said about euthanasia. Once
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: assisted suicide, that's what it really is. What the heck
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: even is the word euthanasia. This is what is the
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: pinch point of assisted suicide. Once you agree that death
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: is a applicable out for suffering, you can't then quantify
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: the suffering or say only physical, only mental, only this
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: combination only emotional.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: No.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: No.
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: If you've labeled this out as compassionate and a dignified death,
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: it should be allowed to everyone. Well.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Now, five percent of all deaths in the Netherlands are
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: a result of assisted suicide five percent, nine thousand and
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: sixty eight people last year.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Interestingly, in twenty ten, there were only.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Two cases where someone was euthanized because of mental illness.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: Last year, one hundred and thirty eight people with mental
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: illness were assisted to die by the government. And the
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: other interesting thing in the Netherlands is this phenomena of
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: what they're calling duo deaths, where a husband and wife
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: decide to die together at the hand of the state.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: A former Dutch PM and his wife were euthanized earlier
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: this year. In twenty twenty, there were twenty six couples
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one, thirty two couples, in twenty twenty two,
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: fifty eight couples.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: The slippery slope is real with all of these things.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: I mean, she had depression, anxiety and an a personality disorder,
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: and she decided that it was untreatable.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: She tried treatable. I don't think it's untreatable. We cannot
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: give up the.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: Easy road, of course, to go down to say well,
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: you can just go and have yourself knocked off, But
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: I don't think that's the reality. Very quickly, before we
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: get to the break, another reason today never to get
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: rid of cash. Of course, millions of customers at the
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: am Z couldn't log into their app as if you
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: needed another reminder, they just keep coming up.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: On that note.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: We're going to go to a break, but stick around
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: when we get back. We look at what's making news
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: in the papers tomorrow, including Caleb, South Australia's most unlucky woman.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: All right, let's look at what's making news in the papers. Caleb,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: you have the most unlucky woman in all of South Australia.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: Well, I don't have the most unlucky woman in all
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: of South Australia, because if she was dating me, she'd
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: be the luckiest.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Woman in South Australia.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: But anyway, let us go to the front of the
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: advertiser tomorrow, where indeed it says, essays unluckiest woman. She's
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: been knocked back five hundred times, not by me.
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  Speaker 4: Never had a job in forty years.
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: Now come up forty years, Elizabeth Penchon a Rosemarie Culick
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: fifty four is one unlucky woman, having been rejected for
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: more than five hundred jobs over forty years, as new
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: figures reveal Adelaide's growing unemployment crisis. Now, yes, there is
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: an issue with unemployment and underemployment, particularly when people have
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: a job, which means they don't show up in the
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: unemployment figures. But of course they're getting far less work
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: than they would like. But if you haven't had a
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: job in forty years, and you reckon you've applied for
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: five hundred jobs. This woman, by the way, has never
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: had a driver's license, and she had her first daughter
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: at twenty one.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: She's not had a job since then.
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: Might you not look at yourself and think perhaps I'm
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: part of the problem here.
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: There are entire agencies dedicated to helping people out of
• 38:47
  Speaker 7: work get into work, and I crunch the numbers. If
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: you've been knocked back five hundred times in forty years,
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: you've only been applying for one job every four weeks.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Rosemary, I'm going with that.
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: I mean, you just put the resume together once and
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: then fire it off twenty times in one setting if
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: you want to, But literally five hundred times in forty years,
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: that means you're applying for one job every four weeks.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: On the other hand, I mean, if you've been knocked
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: back five hundred times, it would be pretty tough to
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: put in your five hundred.
• 39:20
  Speaker 7: First applic No, I'm sorry, it just means you're not
• 39:23
  Speaker 7: trying hard enough.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Here, South Australia's most tenacious woman rather than unluckiest woman
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: to have applied that many times and been knocked back.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: But the Department of Social Services reckon. There's almost half
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: a million people who are currently on job seeker capable
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: of working at least thirty hours a week. So we're
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: back to this conundrum right where we're told that we
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: need immigrants because we need a labor force, and yet
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: we've got four hundred and sixty nine thousand people on
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: job seeker at payments who the Department of Social Services
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: say and would be well able to working.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: That excuse for decades now or skilled shortage.
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: That's why we need all these immigrants, really, because now
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: it's twenty twenty four and we've still got all these
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: skill shortages.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: So clearly it didn't work.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: And often what you'll find is these people who are
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: on jobs out who are more than capable of working,
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: don't want to do the.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: Jobs that are available.
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: They don't want to be the cleaners and whatever else.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: Oh you know that's immigrant work. Well, you know, a
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: job is better than nothing.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: And I'm certainly not saying this about the lady on
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: the front page of the paper, but there was the
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: comment the other day in the news by recruiter who
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: said that typically people on job seeker who don't want
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: to work they apply for jobs they know they're not
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: qualified for in order to tick the box and continue
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: receiving their payments, not saying that about the lady featured.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: The Herald's Son in Melbourne has a front page exclusive,
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: as does the Daily Telegraph.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: By our own Joe Hildebrand.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Elbow rules out early poll saying he wants to first
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: get on top of cost of living crisis. Well, I
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: guess that means we are never going to the polls,
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: will never be an election ever again. And he also
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: wants to combat social media's toxic impact on kids.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: I'm going the distance. Reads the headline.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Well, if he intends to break the back of the
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: cost of living crisis, I mean he's the cause of
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: the cost of living crisis. Our energy policy is driving
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: the cost of living up. Immigration is driving the cost
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: of housing up. If he's going to break the back
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: of cost of living, he's going to have to reverse
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: a whole lot of his own policies.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: I now all he wants to do, as evidence by
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: the budget is pushed down the headline inflation figure leading
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: into an election by of course giving three hundred dollars
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: not to you, but to the power company, so that
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: the number that shows up on your bill is list
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: than it otherwise would have been, which helps to bring
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: down the headline rate of inflation. Probably doesn't do much
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: about real inflation, but it changes the number that gets
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: reported by the boffins. That's what he means by reducing
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: the cost of living. It's not about what's in your
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: hip pocket. It's about what you read in the newspaper
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: so that when you go to the next election you
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: feel like maybe the cost of living is better, but
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: it won't be.
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: And let's not forget he didn't care until late last
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: year when he lost the referendum, which had been his
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: pet project for the entirety of his Prime ministership, and
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: now all of a sudden it was like, oh, yeah,
• 42:17
  Speaker 7: cost of living, let's start talking about that. Notice also
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: though not only is it cost of living, but it's
• 42:24
  Speaker 7: this banning anyone under sixteen. It's now so important that
• 42:29
  Speaker 7: it's sharing a headline with cost of living pressures and
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: mark my words, this has nothing to do with helping
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: teenagers and everything to do with ensuring that their Digital
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: Idea Bill, which they passed last week very quietly, again
• 42:45
  Speaker 7: something none of us wanted, but now we've got it,
• 42:48
  Speaker 7: that is going to come into play here, because the
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: only way to ban kids from getting online and lying
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: about who they are is to ensure that people have
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: these digital ideas that you cannot fake, that you cannot hack.
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: Thereby you prove I'm James McPherson. I'm accessing my social
• 43:05
  Speaker 7: media right now.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: That's who I am. There's simply no other way to
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Well, clearly the government on this is I mean they've
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: been circling on this issue, right, misinformation that didn't really
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: misinformation and that didn't land, violence on the internet, with
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: that attack on the bishop that didn't land. Finally they've
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: found something that will resonate emotionally with people. We've got
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: to protect the kids, and he's decided to make that
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: his key folk.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: What do I always say?
• 43:30
  Speaker 7: They pick the most reasonable, the most rational reason that
• 43:33
  Speaker 7: they can possibly give something that people will go, oh, yes,
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: we are crying out for the solution that they have
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: ready already pre planned. Here's when I made earlier public
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: and now I get to usher it in with your
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: blessing because I've convinced you that it's for the greater good.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: And hashtag safety always for your safety to the front
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: page of The Australian.
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: Now murder, curfew breeches detainees allowed to walk free.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Gosh, it feels like groundhog day.
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: A former immigration detainee already convicted of a string of
• 44:06
  Speaker 7: offenses since his release from indefinite detention, has walked free
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: despite committing multiple curfew breaches. After Commonwealth prosecutors opted against,
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: insisting he.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Remained behind bars.
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: Barungi born kim Bingeiri Cossago.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's a pretty good effects.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I'm going my Bessie, thank you.
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: On Tuesday, was handed a one year jail sentence for
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: each of the six chargers laid against him this month
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: for breaching his curfew and failing to maintain his electronic
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: monitoring device.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: But hey, let's let him walk free, because I'm sure
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: all he needs.
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: Is a sixth, seventh, eighth chance.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: And this one's gonna lad.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: I just argue that that well, I mean, that's that's
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: what I've done. House charges.
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: How how have we reached the point where you can
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: be a Syrian sofenda who shouldn't even be here in
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: the first place. Yeah, and you get out like we're
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: just constructing a beacon on the border by the beaches,
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: well saying if.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: You're a criminal, come to Australia. It's the best place
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: in the world. That is the message we keep sending out.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: No wonder people keep rocking up on boats and occasionally
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: making it to shore.
• 45:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they're about the lucky country is I can.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Be a murderer in my own country.
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: As long as I make it to Australia, They're not
• 45:30
  Speaker 7: going to do anything about it.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: They're stuck with me to the second.
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: Splash, blackouts risk push for green transition. New South Wales
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: Premier Chrismians has warned renewable energy advocates that public support
• 45:42
  Speaker 7: for the transition to a green economy will vanish if
• 45:46
  Speaker 7: there are price spikes and blackouts, as he paved the
• 45:49
  Speaker 7: way for the life of the state's Raring qualified power
• 45:53
  Speaker 7: station to be extended.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Well well well, from the mouth of the premiere.
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: Now we have to keep the coal fired power station
• 46:02
  Speaker 7: burning otherwise you guys.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Are going to be lighting candles.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: It says a lot.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: About the federal government's energy policy when our state premiers,
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: now labor premiers, are starting to just position themselves to
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: deflect the blame and we're on the side.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Of the public need a safety blanket.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: We're in big trouble once they're doing that. We know
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: those problems.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: We pay to keep a rearing open and just before
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: we get to the break, the courier mail systemorrow not
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: stop the boats, stop the cars. Migration is to blame
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: for Queensland's clogged roads and stretched public transport network.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: Premier Stephen Miles.
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: Has declared, and of course he also said today doubling
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: down on this rhetoric about migration being the cause of
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: all the Queenslands, was that he was glad to see
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: that Peter Dutton had got on board with his idea
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: to reduce migration.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: Dutton taken his ideas from Stephen Mile.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: How good is that we're going to go to a
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: break when we come back San Francisco promising free vodka
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: shots to.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Homeless people at player expense.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Of course that's a month, all right. Get this for
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: a ridiculous government policy. Homeless people in San Francisco will
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: be served free vodka shots in a five million dollar
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: program to help the homeless. If they don't like vodka,
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: they can have beer or wine. It'll be served by
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: nurses who aim to curb the amount homeless people drink.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: They'll serve it up three times a day.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: As you can imagine, taxpayers in San Francisco are not impressed.
• 47:30
  Speaker 15: It's really conflicting to give alcohol to alcoholics because it's
• 47:35
  Speaker 15: a disease. It's a condition that is basically, you know,
• 47:41
  Speaker 15: an obsession of the mind that turns into an allergy
• 47:43
  Speaker 15: of the body. And it's a disease that they can't help.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: So it's basically you're enabling them.
• 47:48
  Speaker 15: You're enabling and the possibility is for them to die.
• 47:51
  Speaker 11: They're giving people alcohol who has crew, who clearly has
• 47:53
  Speaker 11: an addiction.
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: So if you're providing them with the means to get drunk,
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: I mean, it makes no sense to me.
• 47:58
  Speaker 8: That's what the program and it's given away free alcohol.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: That's not to give you some money.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: Only in a Democrat city, Liz, do they have nurses
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: acting as cocktail waitresses for homeless people.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: About you who we all know is from a Democrat city.
• 48:12
  Speaker 7: Check out these liberal women who went to a wellness
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: retreat for anger issues.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: They paid four thousand dollars each to.
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: Be there to effectively bash sticks on the ground and
• 48:24
  Speaker 7: scream like bangies.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Check it out, ladies. Trump hasn't even won yet. That's later,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: that's later.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: In the year.
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: If you, if you will pass a woman in the
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: park bashing a stick and screaming against the floor, you'd
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: say to your kid son, don't go near the crazy lady.
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: But when they get together as a group, somehow it's okay.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: They pay four grandeage for that.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: A fool and her money are soon parted.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: That's all from us stick Around. Coming up in just
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  Speaker 2: a moment is The Reader Penney Show.