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#192 - Sandy Martin - Bioedgelongevity.com · The Chris and Mike Show

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Oh, Speaking of which, welcome YouTube and Twitchers.
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Welcome. Welcome back twitchers.
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I don't know what happened last week, but I had to reconnect us.
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It was broken. It's the Internet.
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It's the ghost in the machine. That's Sandy Martin.
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I don't know how it lays out, but over.
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Here to Sandy Martin. Or she could be open there.
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She's on my. Left.
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We should give you up there. Yeah.
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Hey, boys and girls, it's the Chris and Mike show.
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I'm Chris. He's Mike.
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And with this today is Sandy Martin.
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Just so you know, this show is yeah.
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Oh, man, I screwed that up. A portion of the show is brought
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So if you happen to just go to our website, you can watch the
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show live there as well. And then this will drop.
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I believe Mike said this is going to drop Sunday.
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Actually, Sunday, yeah, we're right on top of things right
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now. You're the quickest turn around
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show ever Sandy, so no pressure on you at all.
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Welcome, Sandy. Welcome Sandy.
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So we're going on a 30 floor elevator ride from the first
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floor to the 27th. Give us a you got that amount of
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time to tell us why you're here, what you're all about and what
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we're going to chat about today. 123 go.
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Well, I think most people who are trying to fix something with
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their health or getting it all backwards, I think everything
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starts with what we stop. I think the biohacking industry
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has been, well, it's, it's, it's something that people, it's a
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dirty word. Hacking might as well be the F
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word. People are upset at the idea
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that people would hack. And I started my I started my
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health business in biohacking. And I did that because I had a
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brain injury after running comic cons.
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I'm all over the place. This morning I think I got a
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little nervous because it's live.
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I didn't realize I was going to be.
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Live. Oh, don't be nervous.
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Don't. Everyone knows it's real and not
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AI, right? Real, raw and irrelevant as I
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like that. Part of our charm is there's a
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little bit of chaos within the. Structure, absolutely, and.
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So I'll say that that everything you can do to better yourself
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starts with something you say no to.
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Oh, I like that. And so it's a different concept.
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And I came to this after a couple of years of presenting
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exhibitors, trying to push products on people, which I
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thought was a great idea because in my own experience, I was just
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fumbling through the Internet trying to find stuff.
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And I thought if I put them all in a room, it would help people
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figure out what's best for themselves.
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Give me an example of what you're talking about, Sandy.
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So there are things that we can do.
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Everybody knows what a vitamin is.
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We call them supplements now because we've got a wide variety
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of options that aren't just your typical vitamins and minerals.
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You could take alpha DPC for a brain boost, or you could take
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Omega threes for, you know, fish, fish oil for heart health,
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or they're all kinds of things. So we'll call them supplements.
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And that's one category and the other category would be devices
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like a red light device or. I like red light.
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Yes. Or a pulsed electromagnetic
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frequency PEMF device, or a hyperbaric oxygen chamber, or
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something that would be designed to activate your body on a
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different kind of a level. A lot of that can be done with
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exercise. OK.
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Yes, a lot of things are. Most of what benefits us is
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free. Our bodies have a natural
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intelligence, and our bodies send signals, accurate
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intelligence reports that tell us when something.
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'S off OK. And so a problem is a signal
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that something else needs to change.
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Usually stopping something harming us is the best place to
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start. But there's this whole industry
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of stuff you can buy, and they're all these companies
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trying to push things on people. And I'm culpable because I
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assemble them in a room in a trade show setting.
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And so in bringing them all into a room and I'm, I'm upsetting my
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exhibitors at this moment. I, I'm confusing the
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marketplace. You put 50 to 100 different
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companies in a room that are like, do this for your health.
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Do that for your health. If you just take the supplement,
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if you just sit in front of this light, if you just breathe this
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thing, if you put hydrogen in your water, I mean, it goes on
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and on and on and on and on. People walk out more confused.
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Yes they do. So after two years of that, I
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realized that I needed to put some order into this.
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And so I came up with the edge framework.
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My second book is called Biological Edge, and edge stands
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for eliminate, decode, gain and execute.
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And so I'd love to talk at length about things we can stop
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and pick your brains about things we can stop so that we
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can feel better. And then once we reduce some of
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the noise, after maybe getting some fragrances or plastics or
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heavy metals out of our water, air, etcetera, we can feel
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different and start to understand what's happening with
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our bodies. That's amazing.
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I don't know if. You came.
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Yeah. Go ahead, Go ahead.
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Being over 50, I refuse to accept that I should be tired in
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the evenings or that my joints should ache, but I think this is
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a normal mentality for people. Once you get to a certain age,
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those things are. Normal.
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Yeah, I just, I don't expect it. Yeah.
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So when, when I when. And you can correct me, but Mike
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and I have had this conversation before and I'm sure you feel the
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same way. When we were kids, when we were
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at that 12 year old mark, you know, whatever.
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Everybody when they hit 40 had the over the hill party, right.
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And black balloons and shit like you had you had 10 years left
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and then you hit 100% five. And then you leave you move from
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the house and you move them to the retirement community and
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you're dead within 10 years. Yeah.
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And you, and you could see, you could see when they turn 40, all
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of a sudden the hair turns Gray. And then when they're 50,
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they're in walkers and shit. It's, it's crazy.
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Now I'm, I'm a little different in the sense that, that I'm 21
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years sober. But when I got sober 21 years
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ago, my entire addiction turned to fitness.
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So I'm that guy. When I was 53 years old, I, I
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ran a mile in under 6 minutes. I, I could run a half marathon
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an hour and 48 minutes, you know, 8% body fat and, you know,
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doing 75 hard twice. And I, I stress fraction my
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foot. So that kind of knocked me off
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for a little while, but I'm still, I still work out, still
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do everything I've been doing. But so nobody's ever guessed
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that I'm over 50. And then when I tell them I have
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grandkids, they're like, you're too young to have grandkids.
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And I was like, well, you know, actually my daughter had her
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first child when when I was 50, So she was 25, which my wife and
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I have got married at 20 and 25. So that's kind of, you know, we
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started young. So people are surprised that
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we're as old as we are. But it's because of the way we
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live. Like we don't drink, we don't
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smoke, we're very clean, we eat very clean.
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I mean, we don't eat shit. We every now and then eat shit
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'cause, you know, you just do. But on a whole, it's like my, my
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diet is eggs in the morning, I have some type of chicken and
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rice for lunch. And then I have healthy snacks,
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apples and nuts throughout the day and then whatever we have at
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night. But I don't, we don't go to fast
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food. We don't eat fried food, you
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know, we air fry fish and stuff like that.
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But I think it's all kind of geared towards how you live too.
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And what you put in is, is what you get out, right?
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So and what you take out, right? Matters too.
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You took out the alcohol. Right.
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Oh yeah. Yeah, I've I.
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Yeah, I come across people that are my age and it's like, holy
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shit, you look like you're 75. Oh, for sure.
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You know, and especially if. They drink every day.
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Right. And smoke like Sean Penn Prime
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example. That dude smokes and drinks like
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nobody's business. We're about the same age and
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Sean Penn looks like he's 80 years old.
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Just I saw an interview with him after after the movie every
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other battle, whatever, which great movie, but it blew my mind
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how how how old he is and just how old he looks.
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Just mind boggling. Well, the other thing is stress.
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Look at that famous picture of Bill Clinton and Sammy Hagar
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next to each other. Oh yeah, they're like a year
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apart. Oh, it's terrible.
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Oh, it's fantastic. They're like a year apart and
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Bill Clinton looks like he's about 97 and Sammy looks like
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he's about 57, and I think they're 70 and 71 in the photos.
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Oh wow. Well, the presidency will aid
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you. Well, that's why I bring that up
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because stress is a, even the underlying stress of just the
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everyday going to work and the grind.
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And people don't realize that they're stressed subliminally
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almost, you know, it's just, it's there and they don't
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realize it because I have to be here.
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I have to be there. I have to.
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And they never stop to take 10 seconds for themselves either.
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I agree with everything Chris said.
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Nutrition is so important and it's so overlooked.
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And we've had people like yourself who have had their own
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take on, you know, longevity and how to remain younger longer.
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But all the things that you brought up are pretty similar to
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the things that they brought up as well.
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I was taking my mom to hyperbaric oxygen therapy after
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she had a stroke. So it's not that I don't think
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we should do these advanced therapies because I think
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they're very helpful when when called for.
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And we got her better in four weeks with that therapy.
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But on the way there, she said, Santa, you know, stress can kill
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you. I was like, yeah, I know, mom.
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She goes, no, I mean it, Stress can kill you.
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And I said, yeah, get it. She goes, no, I'm serious,
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stress can kill you. And I said, yes, mom, it can
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cause a heart attack or stroke. And she said, oh, I wish I'd
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known. She didn't know and.
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Also, she was making the statement like she's did you
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know? She's trying to say did you
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know? Yeah, I get it.
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OK, OK. Yeah.
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Interesting. And and so when she got better,
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and I think maybe brain injuries are good for the women in my
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family, we can go into how I had a brain injury too.
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But following her recovery, yeah, she stopped hating my dad.
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Oh. So that's lovely.
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Absolutely. Ex number.
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I think you got married in 1969, so it was a long time to be
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agitated every day of your life. And they go grocery shopping
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together. Like that's the last thing
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anybody wants to do with my dad. He looks at every label, every
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price, how much sugar, how much salt?
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What does this cost? He's really annoying.
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And she's like whatever, whatever.
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So so. So what was your mom's brain
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injury? She had a stroke in her left
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lungs and I had a P/E MF device that I was keeping there for a
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while to help my dad with his osteoporosis.
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And she felt a little dizzy one day and was like, oh, I guess
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I'll sit on this thing. And so she, she did a session on
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it, but her dizziness didn't clear up.
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And by the next day, her speech started to slur.
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And we, we think that if she had not sat on that device when it
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first happened, she might have had, she could have had locked
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in syndrome. That's what you can have when
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you have a stroke in your left pawns.
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It could have been really, really bad.
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But there was nothing they could do for it either, because she
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spent 24 hours having a stroke before she realized it.
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Oh God. Yeah, wow.
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Made it to the hospital and then they did the CT with contrast
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and all the things that they do. She'd had an MRIA year prior.
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Her doctor said there's nothing anatomically wrong with your
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brain. We knew there was something off,
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but the doctors don't do enough testing to tell us what's
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actually wrong with us And and it's not their fault the
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insurance companies govern what they're allowed to do. 100%.
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Well, then they're just, and they're just practicing medicine
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too, Like people think doctors like they should do everything,
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but they're, they're practice. They're practitioners.
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You're not. Exactly.
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Doctors, lawyers. It's the practice of medicine,
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the practice of law, that leaves them open to make mistakes.
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Right. Nobody knows everything unless
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you watch the Pit and know Wiley's character.
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He knows it all. Every single he has the script.
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Every single moment of the day, you know, he started remember
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when he was an intern in Chicago at I forget the hospital, you
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know, and, and now he's like head of Pittsburgh.
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It's like he moved further to the East Coast and got
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completely burned out. It's good to be the star.
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Right. Yeah.
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At least you caught that. At least you caught that, Sandy.
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Some people don't. Some people don't catch my
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random conversations like about the.
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Fun. Sometimes he catches you so by
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surprise. I give him credit for that.
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Yeah, no, it's all good. So she she just decided that
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nothing was worth getting worked up about anymore.
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Now a a year later, she's not as good at letting shit go.
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But. So, you know, that's something
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you have to practice every day because, yeah, not only is it
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the letting things go, but it's the underlying negativity that
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will also kill you. Yeah, I had to learn that lesson
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the hard way because I became negative about everything.
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And I looked around and there was nobody left.
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You know, I was sitting there by myself thinking, well shit, I
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guess I'm the problem, right? That's awfully insightful.
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I had no other choice at that point, Sandy.
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I had no other choice because seriously, there was one person
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left in my life that I really could count on.
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And I'm, I'm talking to him now, you know, we were starting to
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put another band together. It, it just was a the lowest
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point in my life. I've seen other people at that
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point. And you just feel for him
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because, you know, if you don't change the way you think and
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realize that every day is a new beginning, you're never going to
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move forward. So many people live in their
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past or worse yet, carry around that negativity.
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Everything is somebody else's fault.
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They screwed me. The government screwed me.
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My family screwed me. Well, what are you going to do
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about it? You know, I was smart enough to
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look in the mirror and say, I guess I'm the problem.
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And I'm going to become a positive person.
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I'm going to try to be nice to everybody, even if they
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disrespect me. I'm not going to let them have
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any power over me. I'm not going to be friends with
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them. But I'm going to be kind as much
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as I can. I'm following his shirt, right?
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Yeah, well, I was a raging bitch until I got mold in my brain.
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Oh shit, I say. I read a little bit about that.
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You spent. Like almost 100 that for sure.
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Yeah, well I want to preface it though, you spent, she spent
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almost $100,000 trying to figure out what was wrong.
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Yeah, and then you realized it was mold.
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Right. And so how did getting better
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cost nearly nothing? And yeah, part of what I spent
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was $27,000 on a hyperbaric oxygen chamber because they
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prescribed 20,000 in treatment and I thought well I'll spend
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the extra 7, have it at home and then other people can benefit.
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I owned the company of my ex-husband has it.
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He got in a divorce. It was too big.
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He'll let me take it back anytime I want, but it's.
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I would say I got trouble. The thing is so heavy and.
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It weighs 4000 lbs I. Think it might be 2000 but it's
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a lot. That's still correct.
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It we had to keep it at the warehouse, not actually at home
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because we couldn't get it into the home.
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So he has it in one of his office spaces.
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We were running comic cons together and that's a that's a
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really stressful kind of an event to run 50,000 people in a
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weekend. Comic Con.
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Yeah, so ours was Galaxy Con. OK, so what's Galaxy Con says?
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I don't know. So what's Galaxy Con?
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Galaxy Con is like a Comic Con, but whereas most comic cons are.
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Dress up and. That's the same as that, but
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they they have limited hours and limited content.
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This is from 10:00 AM to 2:00 AM.
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Something happening in 10 different rooms at the same
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time, 50,000 people running around.
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It's, it's a major undertaking. We were doing fantasy cosplay
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wrestling and, you know, celebrities on stage and kids
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teaching other kids how to create costumes or play games or
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I mean, just everything. It's really a lot of fun, but
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that's his, that's his baby. And I helped him with it for a
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long time. And I really felt like the
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pooper scooper of the business, like felt like the guy that goes
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behind the horse in the parade and just kind of just scoops up
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the poop and I gotcha. I felt like really stressed and
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responsible for everything that had to take place.
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And I was a raging bitch. And then I was COVID hit.
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We had to convert the whole thing.
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We had to refund 400 grand in tickets.
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We had to convert it all virtual talk about stress.
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So I built an e-commerce system to make it work.
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And then in the next month I couldn't run reports on the
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system I built and I didn't know what happened, but I suddenly
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couldn't function. Like weird.
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Everything about thinking was tough.
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And thinking. Out of nowhere.
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And so I thought, oh, I fried a circuit.
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I've been working so hard. I just finally blew it.
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Like my brain is done. Let me take some time off.
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Took the day off, a couple days off.
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Took two weeks off, got worse. You probably should.
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Oh really? You time off got worse.
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I got worse. That's that's.
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Strange. Because I wasn't burnt out.
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I had mold in my brain, but I didn't know what was going on.
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I didn't understand. I had painted an area that was
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wet and I didn't know that it had been, It must have been wet
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for decades, like it was, it was just a danger zone.
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But mold exists behind the walls, but it can go through the
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air and can be in there. And someone who's an expert on
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it explained to me that it was probably because I was painting
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in the area that those paint fumes took it directly into my
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brain through my optic nerve or my.
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Sinuses. Crazy.
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And so I went to a screeching halt and then I believe I have
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no basis for knowing no ability, there's no test that will tell
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you. But I believe that the
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inflammation that the mold travelled because it, it eats
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like it feeds off of us, whether we are alive or dead.
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So it doesn't really either way. And so it went to the most
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active part of my brain. Everything I knew to be me got
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real quiet and, and I couldn't make judgments, I couldn't make
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decisions. I couldn't decide what goes in
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that field in that spreadsheet, right.
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Like, it wasn't just that I couldn't decide What Car to buy,
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which was also a thing. I had my brother pick a car for
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me 'cause I had to trade in a lease and get something new and
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I couldn't make the decision on my own.
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And so I I picked somebody who I trusted and let him decide.
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Yeah. And then I I spent five months
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trying to figure out what was wrong with me before I stumbled
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on Dave Asprey's book and he described his situation with
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mold. I got tested for that and sure
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enough I had the mold and I was able to start to heal.
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What was the time? Frame between you painting and
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this first day that you noticed. Two weeks.
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Wow. OK, so how I was like.
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Fatigue. Yeah, and.
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By two weeks, I was toast. I'm curious to know how how so
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you breathing in, right? You're breathing in the mold and
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then it just decides to find a place to your brain.
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So I the cause. So most people who have a moldy
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environment, they are they, they gradually get sick, right?
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It's, it's small doses. They get it, over time it builds
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up. But you disturbed it by painting
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it, right? Well, I the paint fumes
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themselves are were carrier. They picked it up and stuck it
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right in your nose and it went right to your brain instantly.
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Also my optic nerve, so I don't know if you know, but your
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eyeballs are actually part of your brain.
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OK. Really.
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I guess I did not. No, I did not know that.
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That they're directly attached to the brain.
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That's why we do this. I there's my one thing I
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learned. To do that's.
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Fantastic. Yeah.
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And so, and they found it on my optic nerve.
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So that's one of the ways they test for it.
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Yeah. And so I just, I went to a
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neurologist, this I figured out I was sick mid mid-october.
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By mid November, I was at a neurologist office, had a brain
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scan. They performed the brain scan
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wrong and so I was diagnosed misdiagnosed with ATBI.
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He had take done an intake. I'd hit my head when I was 10.
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He's like it's come back to haunt you.
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I see it all the time. I'm like.
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And how and how old? How old were you when this when
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this started happening? I was 45.
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Perspective. OK, so this so so 35 years
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later, he's trying to say this came back.
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Wow. Practicing.
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Practitioners, yes. And so I, you know, I, I refused
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to accept that diagnosis. I refused to take the drug he
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prescribed. Good job.
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And I set out to figure this out on my own and it was slow
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because my brain wasn't processing.
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I was still in my intellect but but my ability to discern was
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off. So I could read and take notes
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and review them, but it didn't flow like we understand
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information to be absorbed and digested and.
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So it kind of got stuck. It got stuck from the eyes to
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the translation. It just kind of like I'm, I'm,
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I'm reading it all, I'm seeing it all.
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I think I'm grasping the concept.
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But then not processing. Process.
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It's just kind of lays there. Yep.
23:38
That's well, that's a trip. That would be so.
23:41
Frustrating. Wow, that would be.
23:45
You described it very well. Yeah.
23:46
Thank you. That's a trip.
23:48
That's just wow. I can't imagine that that would
23:51
be frustrating on on his own. And so I I just need to optimize
23:56
my brain. Oh, it was extremely
23:58
frustrating. It's like when you're sitting
23:59
there waiting for a file to upload on your computer and it
24:02
just never ends. I called it buffering.
24:04
Yeah, that's it, right. Now, yeah.
24:06
That's what he just described. It's there's no processing it.
24:10
Never. Ends right.
24:12
OK, interesting. That would be horribly
24:15
frustrating. Yes, it I I went on a wild goose
24:21
chase to figure out what was wrong with me and.
24:23
The fact you didn't go crazy is a testament to your willpower.
24:27
Thank you. It really is.
24:29
I was really, really dedicated to two ideas.
24:35
One, it wasn't me because my first symptom was depression.
24:42
OK, I felt depressed. Anybody want?
24:46
The brain wants to close the loop, right?
24:49
Doesn't like uncertainties. So I had a sensation in my
24:53
emotional and physical body that said my brain said, oh, we've
24:58
been here before, That's depression.
25:00
And I was like, yeah, I don't think so.
25:04
And so I had to argue with my brain quite a bit.
25:08
And then I really just wouldn't accept that at 45, that was the
25:14
end of me. Yeah, that's good.
25:16
It came on stubborn suddenly I am sometimes.
25:21
That's good though. Yeah, me too.
25:23
I think we all have that in common.
25:25
Yeah, so I'm no longer a raging bitch.
25:28
I might be an occasional pain in the ass, but no longer a raging
25:34
bitch. How long?
25:35
How long did it take for the? Is the mold gone?
25:37
Does it just what you did made it just disappear?
25:41
It started to go down. I had two tests and it was
25:43
lessened the second time I took a test, but I'm going based on
25:47
how I feel. And.
25:50
I'm almost just afraid to know, like if I still have mold but I
25:55
feel fine and I'm doing all the right things, then maybe
25:59
they're. Just a trigger.
26:00
You thing that makes me. Yep, I get that you.
26:04
Don't want to be like a logic right now.
26:06
Right. Yeah, creeping back in trigger
26:08
you. Yeah, it could.
26:08
Trigger you thinking, oh gosh, shall I go again?
26:10
And then you're automatically your your mind's going to shift
26:12
that way because why wouldn't it?
26:13
It's human nature, right? Like, oh shit, now I got to do
26:16
this again. Here we go again, right?
26:19
That's crazy. Have you guys ever had any
26:22
mysterious illnesses? I don't, I don't know.
26:27
No, the more I talk to people like yourself who have, I know
26:32
you didn't have TBI, but I've taken some pretty serious shots
26:36
to the head that I never really gave any credence to until I
26:40
started learning how serious even one of those is, you know?
26:45
And then I think back to some of the impulsiveness in my life and
26:50
things that I can't explain. All those things make sense now
26:53
that I understand that, right? You know, I don't beat myself up
26:57
so bad for some of the what I considered stupid decisions at
27:01
the time. You know, where why did you do
27:03
that? That really made my life take a
27:06
turn a a hard left turn or a hard right turn that I didn't
27:09
anticipate just because I made one decision or another.
27:13
I give myself credit for that those moments.
27:17
Now, you know, and you don't beat yourself up and be so
27:21
negative about not being smarter.
27:23
That has nothing to do with it. You know, you just, you think
27:27
differently than other people. But I think those, I think that
27:31
same curse was also a gift in that I've never been able to
27:35
explain how I can play an instrument or how I understand
27:40
sound and how something should sound good.
27:43
And I'd look at somebody else who thinks that something sounds
27:47
good. And I wonder how do you not know
27:48
that? That sounds bad, right?
27:52
So I think that there was a gift that kind of came along with
27:55
that curse as well. Yeah, Yeah, that could be
27:59
because if they it, it would be really interesting to see inside
28:05
of your brain and see the balance between the the default
28:10
mode network and the frontal lobe.
28:12
I should default mode network is where that creativity happens.
28:16
I should definitely go, you know, again to a neurologist.
28:20
I went after I was in a bad car accident and I was more
28:23
concerned about what happened in the accident then, you know, I
28:26
wasn't thinking about anything we're talking about now.
28:29
I've learned that probably in the last five to six years, you
28:33
know, just through listening to podcast myself with doctors who
28:36
understand this and. I really love Doctor Daniel Amen
28:41
and what he does with SPECT scans.
28:44
It's really fascinating to see personality show in which
28:50
regions of the brain are quiet or active.
28:53
Really fascinates me. Yeah, I'm with you.
28:56
I would definitely like to see what that looks like in my case.
29:02
Yeah, so I pulled up one of your pages, Sandy, the 15 biological
29:06
systems. Yeah.
29:09
So let's, yeah, go ahead. I want, I want you to kind of
29:11
elaborate on these things without, without spending, you
29:13
know, too much time on each one because obviously there's
29:15
fifteen of them. But I, I, I think what you're,
29:18
what you're sharing with us is fascinating #1 and and so as I
29:23
scroll to this, I stop because I, this just, it's fascinating
29:27
to me. So you're what you're doing is
29:29
kind of addressing all these 15 biological systems to to have
29:34
better longevity and healthier life.
29:36
What I hope to do by outlining the systems which I pulled
29:42
together using AI. Like, OK, I don't have the
29:45
education or experience to be able to explain to you how the
29:49
detoxification system of the body works.
29:52
I know a little bit about the nervous system, a little bit
29:54
about breath and circulation, but not to the degree to which
29:58
we can dive in on the website. But my goal with identifying the
30:04
systems was to identify how they interrelate and what kinds of
30:11
activities can enhance multiple systems.
30:15
And so, you know, if you reduce sugar in your diet, how many
30:21
systems is affected? If you increase your hydration,
30:25
you know, how far does that go? Considering that it's your
30:32
emotional system and your stress response are two different
30:35
things and and how our hormones coordinate the functioning of
30:41
our cells is not something I'm equipped to describe.
30:47
But what I am interested in is getting people to understand
30:51
that optimizing any of these, and you can go through and and
30:55
look at the edge framework in each one, is that everything
30:59
starts with what we stop and then we can decode what's
31:04
happening in our bodies and only then do I believe we should
31:08
start adding. OK.
31:11
I really love the idea of hyperbaric therapy for a
31:15
traumatic brain injury. I think it's wonderful.
31:18
But when I was misdiagnosed with the TBI and I put H bot on my
31:22
brain, it gave me headaches because mold fights back.
31:27
Oh, that's fun. It gave me headaches.
31:29
Yeah. Mold.
31:30
So waste. Of money that keeps on giving.
31:33
Right. I didn't.
31:34
I didn't. It helped after I got the mold
31:35
out, but not before. OK.
31:38
And so I also have there's a link at the top for decoder and
31:43
I built an AI chat based on these systems and this, this
31:48
information so that if you type in something, I don't know, you
31:51
might want to do this, you can click on decoder.
31:53
Well, let's do our live, boys and girls.
31:56
Yeah. Did that share?
31:57
Did that share? Click on Get Clarity I.
31:59
Want to make sure it's shared because OK, cool.
32:02
And sometimes, sometimes when I click something, it won't, it
32:04
won't share it. We'll let you know 'cause we
32:06
won't be able to see it. So I'm gonna.
32:07
So you want me to click on Get clarity?
32:09
OK, So just type in something. All right?
32:12
What do you experience? OK.
32:14
Anything you're feeling and. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
32:17
do, I'm gonna do, I'm gonna do this for someone I know who's in
32:21
over the age of 50. And it has to do with with the
32:26
menopause thing. OK.
32:29
Why you guys give away all my secrets?
32:31
That's good. That's that's good.
32:34
That was personal, dude. I'm sorry.
32:38
So hip pain and menopause together, there's likely a lot
32:41
going on. Where exactly does the pain sit?
32:43
Deep in the joint along the outer hip or more lower back
32:45
area? I'm just going to, I'm just
32:47
going to guess. I'm going to say deep.
32:49
Whoops. This is fascinating, Sandy.
32:55
Yeah, that's really cool. This is designed to give you.
33:00
So after three responses it'll give you a summary.
33:03
So I want you to get. Deep joint, so deep joint pain
33:05
that connects into the lower back is noted.
33:08
How long has it been present and did it come on gradually or did
33:11
something specific seem to trigger it came on and gradually
33:18
with that? Was my choice as well.
33:19
Good choice. OK, so those of.
33:27
You going to start summary and identifying the systems of the
33:31
body that are related now that you've given it 3 responses and
33:35
it will continue to ask you questions.
33:37
OK. What this presumes is that your
33:40
body is accurately sending intelligence reports about
33:44
what's happening, and that pain is an appropriate signal, not a
33:49
problem. If you're having hip pain, your
33:53
body's telling you to pay attention to what we don't
33:58
generally know. And interesting that you bring
34:03
up menopause. I have a very contrarian view
34:05
about menopause. I believe that.
34:10
I believe it's not a disease, it's not a disorder, but we're
34:14
treated as if it is because our health system can't give a drug
34:21
unless it diagnosis a problem, right?
34:24
And so in order to sell us hormones, they have to label us
34:29
as problems in order to give us the hormones to make it better.
34:32
I'm not anti hormone therapy, right?
34:34
But I do believe it's like taking an Advil for pain.
34:38
I think it's just symptom treatment that.
34:41
So even if so, even if the hormones, taking the hormones
34:45
actually have had a benefit in this person.
34:47
Yes, so does Advil takes away pain?
34:50
Oh. Good point.
34:52
So we'll reduce a fever. Well, but but what are we
34:55
addressing and what's going on? Gotcha.
34:58
Women seem to me to be designed by nature to have these hormones
35:03
fall off OK and over a certain age.
35:06
Once we're postmenopausal, they don't encourage us to keep
35:09
taking the hormones. We can.
35:12
Some do, but it's this painful mid period that's being
35:18
diagnosed and treated. And I think that a lot of that
35:24
pain and suffering is coming from high inflammation.
35:27
And I think that the estrogen levels that we've had so that we
35:31
could, I don't know, maybe birth babies through a famine, maybe
35:35
that protective layer makes us less likely to feel pain.
35:41
OK. And then when those hormones
35:43
fall away, all of the damage we've done to ourselves through
35:46
stress and diet and drinking and whatever else we do, maybe we
35:51
suddenly just feel the damage we've been doing all along.
35:56
Right. And so I would encourage anyone
36:02
my age younger to say, OK, I'm having a hot flash.
36:07
What did I eat today? Did I, did I get stressed out?
36:11
What's going on is. There.
36:13
Yeah. And then is there something I
36:17
can do to minimize the symptoms beyond just going straight to
36:23
hormones? Interesting and that's and that
36:29
and that's basically what you did with your situation, right,
36:31
because you had all the doctor, doctor, doctor and then you
36:34
decided, you know what, stop. Instead of doing that, let's
36:37
find a natural way to to resolve this issue without pumping
36:40
myself full of the drugs and the chemicals that we all know the
36:43
pharmaceutical companies a trillion dollar industry a year
36:46
because America is let's make sure you're unhealthy so we can
36:50
generate all this income where as opposed to all the other
36:53
countries in the world. Well, one thing that's the
36:55
opposite. One thing that she just said
36:57
that we hear all the time is inflammation.
37:00
And what is most inflammation caused by your diet?
37:03
Yeah. Yeah.
37:05
Yeah, and what's in the water and what's in the air.
37:07
And, you know, it's not just the diet, but I mean, we do eat
37:10
every day. Yes, we do eat.
37:13
We do eat food every day. We have to.
37:15
We have to. So the.
37:17
That's interesting. I made reference earlier to
37:19
mold, not caring if you are alive or dead.
37:24
When I finally figured out it was mold and my first Doctor Who
37:27
was who diagnosed it, she put me on a drug called Nystatin and I
37:33
took it because by that point I was five months and I was
37:35
desperate. I was going to do whatever
37:38
anybody said to feel better. And four days in, I just kept
37:45
imagining myself drowning myself in my tub.
37:49
And I did not have a history of suicidal thoughts.
37:54
And the 5th day I went to my cabinet and I took the pill
37:57
bottle out and I went, oh, you're new.
38:01
But that day before it was so bad.
38:05
I'd had a fight with my ex-husband.
38:07
I couldn't get anyone to help me.
38:10
I had to call his mother to get any help at all.
38:13
Like after 12 hours of really like out of my mind.
38:17
Why am I picking these thoughts in my day?
38:21
And when I when I recognized the drug as what was new in my
38:28
environment, I didn't take it. I called my doctor and I said,
38:32
hey, I can't take this. And she said, I told you you'd
38:36
need mental health help to get through this process.
38:39
And I said that's not how this works.
38:41
You don't give me a drug that gives me suicidal ideation and
38:46
then I just go talk to somebody about it so I feel better.
38:49
That's not how we do this. And.
38:51
That was my. Real turning point, that was
38:53
when I had to take matters into my own hands because I couldn't
38:57
trust the doctors at all anymore.
38:59
And I did go to another doctor. That's a. 13,000 up front and
39:05
I'm not because I was desperate, desperate but he had the
39:11
protocol I had researched and he was going to be the one who
39:14
could help me and his best advice was to not acknowledge my
39:20
symptoms which was great advice and it changed my life.
39:26
But he he also didn't do anything for me and so when all
39:32
he had. So give me 13 grand and I'm
39:34
going to tell you ignore your symptoms.
39:36
Have a nice day, Sandy. Is that check or cash?
39:39
Because I'll take. You there?
39:40
I need that job. Right.
39:43
Yeah, I'd be good at that. He gave me a.
39:45
Genetic test that he couldn't interpret.
39:48
Oh, OK. Yeah.
39:51
OK. And so that.
39:53
Wow, I could probably do that. It's.
39:56
It's really out of desperation that I've come.
40:00
Up with, you know, I had to really parse all the things.
40:04
Yeah, How? How did I get better?
40:07
OK. How did I get sick?
40:09
How did I get better? Which things worked?
40:11
Which things were a waste of money?
40:13
And I like to share the story because the the biggest
40:17
aggravation people have with the longevity space is that they say
40:20
it's for tech billionaires. Well, I'm not that right And I
40:25
and. It shouldn't be.
40:26
It's yeah, I was for billionaires and I.
40:29
Had I had some money to spend on my brain, but that money didn't
40:33
even work? Yeah, it didn't get me where I
40:36
am. And it shouldn't it shouldn't
40:38
matter what your what your financial, what it was, what's
40:42
the word, what your financial availability is because of the
40:45
help you need to live a a a better, healthier life, right?
40:50
It's just, I mean, I know that's what is that socialism medical
40:53
medical like Canada A, but I I just, that's mind boggling.
40:58
Well, there's $1000 for nothing. Jeez.
41:02
A bunch of tests he didn't know how to interpret.
41:04
Jeez, let's what? Let's smear him?
41:06
Let's do a smear campaign. That is terrible.
41:10
It really is. It's.
41:11
Ridiculous. And you said it earlier, Sandy,
41:13
we're not. We're not discounting modern
41:16
medicine because modern medicine has its place.
41:19
And if you're dying and you need a blood transfusion, you should
41:22
go get a blood transfusion so you don't die.
41:24
If you need whatever to stay alive, my dad's on medicine that
41:29
keeps his heart in rhythm, right?
41:31
There's no reason he shouldn't take that because he's a
41:33
naturalist. There's a version of lunacy on
41:37
both ends, right? But I think it's important for
41:40
people to understand, like you said, if you're going to your
41:42
doctor and you are not getting any better, there's no reason to
41:46
continue to go to that doctor, right?
41:48
You should go either get a second opinion or start doing
41:52
your. I mean all the You have the
41:54
Internet at your disposal, you have most of the answers you
41:57
need, you just have to ask the right questions.
42:01
Right, but at the same time you don't.
42:03
Is self diagnosing always the best approach?
42:06
No, that's why I said I think, yeah.
42:08
And she did it. She went and got a second, a
42:10
third, a fourth, a fifth opinion.
42:12
But right, your situation was so unique and there's a lot of
42:16
people who end up in these unique situations where you're
42:20
being attacked by something that is not normal on a day-to-day, a
42:24
day basis for most people. Well.
42:26
Let's talk about what I would have been diagnosed with if I
42:28
hadn't kept fighting. Yeah.
42:30
Chronic fatigue syndrome, right. Autoimmune condition, right.
42:34
You know something? Because the what it causes is an
42:38
inflammatory response. They call it chronic
42:40
inflammatory response syndrome. Yeah, that's how did in 2017, I
42:49
went to my primary and I got a big blood panel done and he's,
42:54
he I said can we do C reactive protein, I want to check my
42:57
inflammation levels And he said no, I don't test for that.
43:00
I was like, why not? And he goes, well, we can't do
43:02
anything about inflammation, so I don't test for it, but we can
43:06
do something about inflammation. I'm proofed up.
43:08
We can. And that's what so much of the
43:12
industry is missing. They're missing the tools and
43:15
the wherewithal and the motivation to reduce
43:19
inflammation. We don't even have a really
43:21
great way to measure it. C reactive protein, what isn't
43:23
the best measurement for it? There are other tests that are
43:27
more specialized that you frankly just can't get from your
43:32
regular doctor. The interleukin 6, Interleukin
43:35
9, like you can't get these from your doctor.
43:37
The insurance companies won't let them order those tests for
43:41
you. They don't want you to know.
43:43
No, of course not. It's kind of like you have, you
43:45
have you have the ability to make what is what's the big rage
43:48
is diabetes to make diabetes medicine, you know very
43:51
inexpensive, right? And they don't.
43:53
It's like let's overcharge arm and leg, but you can get Viagra
43:56
for 5 bucks for a month's supply.
43:59
So let's make sure you can have sex.
44:01
But it's the same because it's everywhere.
44:04
It's everywhere you have a commercial.
44:06
Every two seconds on. TV no, no, but it but it pops up
44:09
on everything. It's, it's, you know, anything
44:12
you have like the fun thing about this show, right?
44:15
Because my phone's in front of Mike's phone's show.
44:18
Mike's Mike's phone is in front of him.
44:19
We all know that, that the phones listen to everything.
44:23
Because as soon as we get done with one of these recordings,
44:25
all of a sudden I get these different algorithm.
44:26
My my algorithms online are so out of whack.
44:30
This podcast has definitely screwed up you're.
44:34
Going to get a bunch of menopause ads.
44:36
Next Oh, I don't doubt that we are just.
44:38
It's funny. He brings a Sorry to interrupt
44:40
you. It's funny because I was just
44:42
thinking about that two or three days ago Go as I'm sitting at
44:44
break at work and scrolling through my Facebook, I'm like,
44:47
what are all these? Ohh, these are all podcast
44:50
people. They were all ads for people who
44:53
had been on here, you know, the Kava guy and.
44:56
Yep, yeah, I get Kava emails now.
44:58
We had this couple on that they're they're they're in the
45:01
the, the active adult or not the active adult, the the swinger
45:05
lifestyle called the impulsive duo.
45:06
So all of a sudden I started getting things for that.
45:08
Yep, them too. We've had, we've had musicians
45:11
on and they started getting things for, for music and
45:13
recording. We have producers on, directors
45:14
on, actors on, talent agents on. It's it's this broad spectrum of
45:18
stuff because we started this thing originally just based on
45:21
recovery, because I'm 21 years sober.
45:23
Mike's about 15-18 years clean. So it was the foundation was
45:27
that music. And then we had this stupid
45:29
little innuendo bit. We were talking for no reason.
45:33
We had a guest that belled on us and, and it was like, I just,
45:35
you know, I just want a living, breathing human being.
45:37
And I was like, you know, maybe we have a zombie and Mike's
45:39
like, you can't have a zombie. I don't think that would work,
45:41
right. So that little like less than
45:43
62nd clip blew up and then all of a sudden people started
45:46
knocking down our door to be guest.
45:48
And what we call it is life resume.
45:51
So you have this amazing life resume, which is you somehow you
45:56
prompted to reach out to Mike for you saw something.
45:59
But and so the based on what I read, I'm like when you get
46:01
Sandy on, even though I had that Little Mix up a couple weeks
46:04
ago, are you Sean or you Sandy? Because it was weird because
46:08
there's I know a guy named Sandy.
46:09
So that's why it wasn't it wasn't off putting to me.
46:11
I thought maybe it's the same person.
46:13
And right away we had the same last name and two guests back to
46:17
you guys were so close together and both it.
46:19
Was weird. It was weird.
46:21
It was weird. So but but that's the fun thing
46:23
about this show. It doesn't matter who you are.
46:26
And like comedian, we have comedians on.
46:27
Then all of a sudden I'll have a bunch of comedian shows come up
46:29
my feed. So when we when we finish this
46:31
thing and you know, it's going to be all about bio biometrics
46:34
and different things, health and because that's what it does,
46:37
which is neat. So, you know, it's interesting
46:39
to see what the phone picks up, you know, days after the show.
46:44
And then all the things that we've learned, I'm just today we
46:47
learned that the optic nerve is part of the brain.
46:50
I it is. I had no idea.
46:51
I had no idea. I had no idea.
46:54
And the fact that you have that really cool bio edge decoder,
46:57
I'm I'm going to share that with a couple people because I think
46:59
it's fascinating. You know, I mean, I don't, I'm,
47:02
I'm pretty damn health. My biggest, my biggest thing is
47:05
asthma. I've had asthma since I was
47:07
what, 3 months old? But I was a product of the
47:09
environment in Illinois where it's like I had to move where I
47:11
was going to be dead in three months.
47:13
So we decided Arizona because it's hot.
47:15
They're tired of the cold. Now, listening to you, though,
47:19
obviously I couldn't make a conscious decision when I was
47:21
three months old, But is asthma really a product of who I am or
47:25
is it a product of the environment?
47:29
You know, because Illinois, all that mold, right cold.
47:33
Very good kind of mold too. Oh, sure.
47:37
Oh yeah. And so.
47:39
Tons of pollen. Uh huh.
47:41
Oh, Pollen's crazy right now. Arizona's one of the worst
47:44
states for asthmatics to move to nowadays.
47:46
There was a point in time where I was allergic to everything in
47:48
Arizona except horses, dogs and Guinea pigs.
47:51
And there was a time in the past where they sent people there who
47:54
had tuberculosis because it was the perfect arid environment,
47:58
right? Right.
47:58
But what happened is, for lack of a better term, while the
48:03
assholes moved from the east and West of Arizona and brought
48:07
their plants from those states, and they screwed up that desert
48:10
environment. And now they have what he's
48:12
describing. Yep.
48:15
Yeah. Like one of my grandsons is
48:17
allergic to Palo verdes, orange trees and any type of wood
48:21
because his, his dad worked in wood.
48:24
Like he, he put in wood floors and stuff.
48:26
So he'd come home from work and he'd pick up trip and trip a
48:28
break out in high. So I'm like, what's going,
48:29
what's going on? And they finally get that whole
48:32
back allergy test for trip and realize, oh, you're allergic to
48:35
all these things that your dad does for a living.
48:37
So we had to completely change his line of work and we had to
48:39
cut down, which I was happy to do.
48:41
So I hated him. 55 Palo Verde trees and an orange tree just
48:45
because those alone were were making him chaos, just making
48:49
his nose constantly run ice water.
48:50
It was it was terrible. And he's, you know, at the time
48:53
he was a year, year and a half old.
48:55
So you he couldn't vocalize anything.
48:57
He couldn't explain anything. You just constantly running from
49:00
allergies. I'm really curious, you said you
49:03
still have asthma. I do it's, it's more like I have
49:10
an inhaler. I don't remember the last time I
49:11
took it because it's a PRN. It's a PRN thing.
49:14
I got to the point when because I've worked out so much because
49:17
of my running, things like that. I, I like when I ran my
49:19
back-to-back under 6 minute miles.
49:21
I didn't take my inhaler. You know, I got in such really
49:24
good physical condition, cardio condition wise before I broke my
49:28
foot and I was basically not able to do any cardio for eight
49:31
months. So I just did upper body core.
49:34
Even that still helps the the heart cardiovascular because
49:37
you're still straining and that type of thing.
49:40
But I've when the pollen's out like this time of year, I notice
49:43
it's it's even though I'm in shape.
49:46
I know I noticed there's, there's OK.
49:48
If I don't catch my breath when I first start running, I can't
49:51
catch my breath. As long as I start with a good
49:54
breathing pattern, then I'm cool.
49:56
But up in the if I'm in the midst of something, one of those
49:58
days where I just and there's days like that, I just can't
50:00
catch my breath. No matter what I do.
50:02
I just can't catch my breath when I'm running.
50:03
So then I got to slow down and walk it out and and start over
50:06
again. So what I think is really
50:08
fascinating about all of that is that you have demonstrated the
50:12
ability to shift your biology from something that people
50:17
thought you were born with. Oh, I didn't thought it.
50:19
I never thought of it that way. And so power of the mind might
50:24
be difficult. That's it.
50:26
Well, it could be the absence of the alcohol it there might.
50:30
Well, it wasn't drinking when I was 3.
50:33
That's true, but there, you know, what's what's in alcohol
50:37
could be in, you know, for the wheat, the barley, the whatever
50:41
could have been your diet in some way could have been, there
50:44
could have been things about it, interesting food sensitivity, a
50:48
lack of physical vigor, you know, 'cause you aren't running
50:53
marathons at 3, not nor should you.
50:57
But there are there are factors that we can shift over time and
51:02
our bodies completely change over every seven years.
51:06
Sure, right. And it's a snake A.
51:08
Snake shed in their skin, right? Yeah.
51:10
Yeah, and our gut lining repairs itself every three days.
51:14
And so it's. Really.
51:15
I didn't know that. Oh yeah, it's all in a different
51:17
timetable. Wow.
51:19
But we're constantly remaking ourselves and that's the piece
51:23
that I think is brilliant. If if you think about the world
51:26
we live in with AI and how it's going to change everything, Also
51:30
know its limitations. It's limited to language right
51:34
now. Every smart thing it knows is
51:39
only based on what we've been able to put into words.
51:42
True. And what we yeah, exactly what
51:44
you feed. Because a year ago, the level of
51:46
AI was nowhere compared to what it is today.
51:49
We had a guy on We. Yeah, yeah.
51:51
Our bodies are working in ways that no one has been able to
51:55
describe. The.
51:57
Capacity inside of us is beyond anything ever spoken or written
52:02
or what have you, so our bodies are still the smartest things on
52:06
the planet. Smarter.
52:08
Than us, smarter than the AI, smarter than anything.
52:11
The body itself is just an amazing thing to begin with and
52:14
people don't look at it that way, they just the.
52:16
Brain alone, we don't understand the brain.
52:19
No starting, that's right. Let alone the rest of the body.
52:22
That's why it drives you and I'm not, I'm not slamming people,
52:24
but that's why it drives you. And that's when you see somebody
52:26
who's who's so OO just overtly obese and just so unhealthy and
52:29
out of shape. Like you have one body, you have
52:31
one soul, you have one life. You're choosing to live like
52:35
that. I just, I can't wrap my hat
52:36
around that. When you have the ability of
52:39
self-control and to be, you don't have to be crazy fitness,
52:43
but you have the ability to exercise and take care of
52:45
yourself and you know what you're eating is good or bad
52:47
you. Know, but they don't know they
52:48
have the ability. My ex.
52:50
Husband. Oh, I guess that's a good point.
52:53
Say that again. My ex-husband was £400.
52:55
We ate. We ate the same things, we
52:57
worked the same job, really same lifestyle.
53:01
How tall was he? 511 and he's a big guy and So
53:08
what I know is that in the same living environment he he tested
53:13
as having more mold in his body than I did, but it didn't affect
53:17
his brain. Weird because his fat kept it
53:22
from harming him. Wow, wow.
53:25
And so think about every obese person that you see and those
53:33
fat cells being intelligent, those fat cells being there for
53:37
a reason. They're a protective layer.
53:40
They pull toxins out and store them away.
53:43
Wow. So that you can function And
53:48
then it just it can just get like.
53:51
Out of control. Yeah.
53:53
Thank you. Wow.
53:53
Wow. And so if somebody is in a
53:56
situation where their body is saying, no, no, no, I've got
53:59
you, let me put this insulating layer so you can keep going.
54:04
And there's a tipping point, right, where it becomes
54:06
difficult to get back on track. But if we're not interpreting
54:11
the signal correctly in the beginning, when the fat starts
54:15
to come on, we just get a little dad bod, or we just get a little
54:19
junk in the trunk, or we get whatever, whatever stereotype we
54:24
want to discuss here, then we're not recognizing that the body's
54:28
doing that to help us. That's interesting.
54:32
The sugar that we ate, it doesn't have the ability to
54:36
process fully. So I'll I'll just store that as
54:39
fat. OK.
54:41
Because I don't have the ability.
54:43
I've been overloaded. My, you know, as my body is
54:45
like, no, no, no, no, OK, I'll store it.
54:48
And if we don't catch that signal early on, then we can
54:52
become obese and extremely unhealthy.
54:54
But it's those early signs. That's kind of the whole point
54:57
of my work. It's those early signs.
54:59
OK. Where we can shift and make a
55:01
change. Otherwise, it's really hard,
55:06
really hard to reverse the body that's just so overprotective
55:10
that it's obese to that level. Yeah, that's amazing.
55:14
So just. Describe two things.
55:19
The same diet doesn't apply to everybody, right?
55:22
You just said it. So people telling you that this
55:24
diet or that diet works, that's all shit advice.
55:27
You have to figure out what works for you because
55:30
everybody's different and you just said it.
55:32
The other thing is, is some people just get a shit roll of
55:36
the dice. They just do, you know, you're
55:39
genetically challenged from the get go.
55:41
So you're either going to have to work harder or like you just
55:45
said, you're going to succumb to obesity.
55:48
You're going to succumb to whatever it is, what whatever
55:53
oddity it is that people are going to look at you and say why
55:55
is that person different? Part of it's just your genetics
55:59
too. But it's no more than half
56:02
genetics. They used to think it was 7%
56:06
that came out last week and said, no, we actually have new
56:09
markers. Now.
56:09
We believe it's 50 percent, 5050.
56:13
Your genetics can affect your overall outcome, but it's not
56:18
deterministic outside of a couple of things.
56:22
No, and it can't be because too many people overcome those
56:26
obstacles and prove that theory wrong that it could be over 50%.
56:32
Because if it was, if you were subject to obesity, there would
56:36
be nothing you could do to not be obese.
56:38
Yeah, I come. From obese people.
56:41
But I was bound and determined not to be, and so I'm not.
56:45
There you go mindset. This has been this has been
56:49
fast. Oh, it's not sharing.
56:50
I thought I was sharing. So this has been fascinating.
56:52
We have been talking with Sandy Martin.
56:55
It's all about hacking your your bio.
56:59
I don't know biochemistry, what you want to call it.
57:01
She has a bio edge longevity summit coming in July, July 10th
57:05
and 11th in New York City at the Metropolitan Pavilion.
57:09
Website is bio edge longevity.com.
57:13
Go there, check it out. You can click learn more.
57:15
I'm assuming that's where you click more to get information
57:18
about the event, tickets to go, etcetera.
57:22
Very, very fascinating. For sure.
57:25
I wasn't expecting this based on what you shared, which is why we
57:30
love doing what we do because we just the conversation takes us
57:33
where we go and it's it's I've learned a ton.
57:36
I know Mike's learned a ton. You got a, a great handle on all
57:39
this stuff. And I'm going to share your
57:41
website like crazy to people that I think would take would
57:46
really, really, truly benefit from it.
57:49
Just the, the, the bio decoding thing was, was, was fantastic.
57:54
So everybody go to bioedgelongevity.com.
58:00
Take a look at Sandy Martin stuff.
58:01
Go go to her event. You can buy her book.
58:03
It's on Amazon, I saw that a minute ago did.
58:07
You notice that that's what at the top of the page.
58:11
Where is it? And the video Right there, you
58:13
see it. Oh, that's Bill.
58:14
Oh, yeah. Oh, OK.
58:16
He was at my first event. Oh, that's Shatner.
58:18
Yeah. That's OK.
58:20
I kind of thought that, but I was like, you know, I, I wasn't
58:23
going to jump to conclusion, you know, but right on Bill Shatner,
58:26
OK, boys and girls, Bill Shatner, OK, believes in bio
58:30
edge longevity. So.
58:32
That's all you need to know. There you go.
58:34
That alone. That is all you need.
58:36
Captain Kirk, okay, Captain Kirk believes in is Sandy Martin,
58:42
that's amazing. She's Sandy Martin, go check her
58:44
out bioedgelongevity.com. We wrap every show up like this.
58:49
If you're feeling suicidal or depressed, don't do it.
58:51
Tomorrow is a better day with you in it.
58:54
Don't leave a hole in somebody else's heart because you decide
58:56
to leave this planet. Go, go run, go jog, go journal,
58:58
go screaming a pillow. Go find somebody to talk to you.
59:00
If you cannot find somebody to talk to you, we urge you to text
59:03
988. Somebody is there right now
59:06
willing to talk to you and just figure out how to make that you
59:10
get off that ledge and, and have a better day because it is the
59:14
world's a better day with you in it.
59:15
And we want you there tomorrow. Because Mike and I both been
59:18
affected by it. I, I, I seriously doubt anybody
59:20
who's ever watched our show has not had somebody to know that
59:22
has has taken their life. So don't do it.
59:25
Don't do that again. Sandy Martin, Bioedgeline,
59:28
zebra.com. Anything else you want to share
59:30
with us before we wrap this up? I just want to say thanks for
59:32
having me on. Thank you so much, Sandy.
59:35
You are awesome. You are awesome.
59:36
We have to have you come back on again because I'm sure we could
59:38
talk another five hours on this subject because there's so many
59:40
different things that that we could totally dive down that
59:43
path. But but forsake of not losing
59:47
people's interest. Let's bookshelf this one and
59:50
then we'll get you back on again in June.
59:51
We'll talk some more about the other things you're doing and we
59:55
can plug your summit again and make sure we get that place
59:57
filled up with people you know. And then you got a selfie with
1:00:01
Bill. Did Bill and you take a picture?
1:00:03
Oh yeah, yeah. Right on.
1:00:04
So you got to share. That on my YouTube page of Bill
1:00:08
in APEMF chair and how he felt and it's hysterical.
1:00:12
It's perfect. Awesome.
1:00:13
What's the YouTube page? What's what's?
1:00:15
The YouTube page longevity. At bio Wedge longevity is at
1:00:19
YouTube, so we're going to subscribe, check that out.
1:00:21
We'll drop it on our on our page as well.
1:00:23
Truly appreciate you being on the show because time is the
1:00:25
most valuable come out and we all have.
1:00:27
So we appreciate you taking time to come and join us today and
1:00:29
talk. I'm glad we figured out the time
1:00:31
thing because you know, everybody, everybody gets
1:00:33
confused when I because I don't change my clocks.
1:00:35
So when people ask me what time is like, I don't know, Mike was
1:00:39
trying to explain to me like, dude, you're going over my head.
1:00:41
So I just I'm Arizona. This is what time it is like.
1:00:45
That's why I type it's, it's, it's 8/18.
1:00:47
What time is it there? Because I don't know.
1:00:50
I don't. Know I've been there for almost
1:00:51
18 years. And as I'm explaining this to
1:00:54
him and I'm seeing the deer in the headlights look, I just
1:00:57
started getting quieter and quieter.
1:00:58
I was like, Oh yeah, I remember what that was like.
1:01:00
Yeah, I just, we don't change our clocks.
1:01:02
I just don't. And, and really, daylight saving
1:01:05
time was created for farmers. It was not that was.
1:01:08
That's a myth. Google it.
1:01:10
OK. Well, I sounded good.
1:01:12
Yeah, I thought it. Was it was mostly due to the
1:01:15
railroads before GPS so that you weren't starting trains at the
1:01:18
same time and they didn't crash into each other?
1:01:20
That's MO. There's several reasons for it,
1:01:23
but that was the big one was it had a lot to do with the
1:01:26
railroads. But it doesn't need to be there
1:01:28
anymore, just. Make a.
1:01:29
No it doesn't. Just make a.
1:01:30
Rockefeller for something else. Because so now where are you?
1:01:33
What? What state are you in, Sandy?
1:01:35
I'm in Norfolk, VA. OK, nice.
1:01:38
So you're 3 hours ahead. I am OK, see that's explains it
1:01:41
so you. Just figured it out that.
1:01:43
Because you told me before the show, man.
1:01:45
I know when you remembered you retained them I'm proud of.
1:01:47
This guy, it's because I don't have mold in my brain yet.
1:01:50
Who knows could be that wasn't a slight at you saying I was just
1:01:53
you know, I just I I processed it.
1:01:56
I processed. It we know she has a sense of
1:01:58
humor after talking to her for an hour.
1:01:59
Yeah, she does. Thank you so much.
1:02:01
Again, we appreciate you. Love you brother.
1:02:03
Love you too, man. Thank you, Sandy.
1:02:05
Yes, Thank you, Sandy. You're awesome.
1:02:10
We don't want to fly in this up to you.
1:02:15
Look the tablet, go insane, feel the teachers look at your life
1:02:22
long your journey. You will go be on the trail
1:02:34
behind your eyes, feel yourself and meet you.
1:02:40
Take a moment look at. You.
1:02:42
You see him fight the battle, that's you Fuck will fight the
1:02:49
battle, but you fuck will. Who will you be baby?
1:02:52
To your fear? Oh yeah, who?
1:02:53
Listen to your fear. Come down here.
1:04:15
You haven't found solely. You see your sands, you fuck
1:04:21
fighting. Wait for the dead.
1:04:25
Wait. It's going to rise and get.
1:04:27
For the wind you ain't no creature.
1:04:31
You're playing. Smile You should.
1:04:34
You press on the almighty dance you got to do.
1:04:38
You. Who is your life?
1:04:42
To keep our soul in every man. Take the trail behind your eyes.
1:04:50
Feel the soul revolution now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:05:00
yeah, yeah. Take a moment.
1:05:04
We can see you see him fight the battle in two more years.
1:05:36
You gotta, you gotta. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.
1:06:20
The.