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- 1:20Speaker 2: This Disneyland story because Amy and Neil, of course are
- 1:24Speaker 2: Disneyland fanatics. I went there last Monday. Fabulous said a
- 1:27Speaker 2: great time rate. Facial recognition expansion, let's talk about that.
- 1:32Speaker 1: What's going on?
- 1:34Speaker 3: Yeah, so they are.
- 1:35Speaker 4: Now here's the deal. I have been to Disney in
- 1:39Speaker 4: recent years and they had facial recking. Maybe not facial recognition,
- 1:42Speaker 4: but they definitely took a picture of you when you
- 1:45Speaker 4: used your ticket. So I think now they're expanding that
- 1:48Speaker 4: to store that for a bit of time. And this
- 1:51Speaker 4: is all part of a push to speed up entry
- 1:53Speaker 4: times right, to get people through those lines faster, and
- 1:56Speaker 4: also cut down on fraud. So here's how it works.
- 1:59Speaker 4: You first use your tik it, Disney will capture your photo,
- 2:02Speaker 4: and then when you re enter, the camera will scan
- 2:05Speaker 4: your face and match it to that stored image. And
- 2:08Speaker 4: the idea here is that they're trying to prevent ticket
- 2:11Speaker 4: sharing or fraud, because I guess you could give your
- 2:15Speaker 4: ticket to someone else, slip it through the fence or something,
- 2:17Speaker 4: and someone else could walk in. Clearly that's happened to Disney,
- 2:21Speaker 4: because that's why they're trying to make things faster and
- 2:23Speaker 4: easier and more secure.
- 2:25Speaker 2: And that happens across the board where the security and
- 2:29Speaker 2: not so much in terms of the physical security. I
- 2:32Speaker 2: mean that's handled at a different level, but the anti
- 2:35Speaker 2: fraud making sure that it's you who are going through.
- 2:39Speaker 1: I didn't know it was that big a deal where.
- 2:42Speaker 2: This much has to be invested or this amount of
- 2:44Speaker 2: time and effort has to be given to this.
- 2:48Speaker 4: Well, I think we're seeing the natural evolution in all
- 2:51Speaker 4: forms of events, and security is probably another aspect of this.
- 2:55Speaker 4: They don't want one person coming in with the ticket
- 2:57Speaker 4: and then someone else coming in again with that same
- 3:00Speaker 4: so I think there's a security aspect as well. But
- 3:02Speaker 4: if you look at in general, the amount of places
- 3:05Speaker 4: where facial recognition and facial idea is now a part
- 3:09Speaker 4: of everyday life. Like I don't know if you've been
- 3:11Speaker 4: to the Into It Dome, but it is part and
- 3:14Speaker 4: parcel of the entire facility. I mean you have to
- 3:17Speaker 4: sign up with your phone, you know, if you look
- 3:20Speaker 4: at the airport, you know TSA. They're adding more of
- 3:23Speaker 4: the facial recognition lines, which by the way, are super
- 3:27Speaker 4: fast and easy, and my preferred method and again Bill,
- 3:30Speaker 4: a lot of these systems don't necessarily store your photo.
- 3:34Speaker 4: They store biometric data, so it kind of converts that
- 3:37Speaker 4: photo into data points that then are then you know
- 3:42Speaker 4: confirmed or you know, checked against the next time you
- 3:46Speaker 4: do that. Instead of storing your photo specifically, it kind
- 3:49Speaker 4: of measures your face basically.
- 3:51Speaker 1: Fair enough. Now you talk about airports.
- 3:55Speaker 2: Robots at airports, let's share that one for a bit.
- 4:00Speaker 4: Yeah, this is wild. So we've seen these humanoid robots.
- 4:03Speaker 4: You've seen a million videos of them online. They're the
- 4:05Speaker 4: ones that look like a human, right. They walk around,
- 4:07Speaker 4: they're a little wobbily sometimes. But Japan Airlines is actually
- 4:11Speaker 4: going to test these robots to help them move luggage
- 4:15Speaker 4: at an airport in Tokyo. So these robots are going
- 4:18Speaker 4: to walk around doing the heavy lifting, the loading, the unloading, moving.
- 4:21Speaker 3: Baggage containers on the tarmac. And the reason for this
- 4:25Speaker 3: is because Japan has a worker shortage. Less people want
- 4:29Speaker 3: these physically demanding jobs, so they're going to run this
- 4:32Speaker 3: trial through twenty twenty eight. See how it works. The
- 4:34Speaker 3: robots can go for a couple hours before a charge,
- 4:37Speaker 3: better than the I guess, smoke brakes and the coffee
- 4:40Speaker 3: breaks that humans.
- 4:41Speaker 2: Have to take every so often, and I'm assuming they
- 4:44Speaker 2: can lift a lot heavier baggage and items because they're
- 4:50Speaker 2: not going to go as play.
- 4:51Speaker 4: Yeah, and not just that, it's also the physical toll
- 4:54Speaker 4: it takes in your body. You know, if you're a
- 4:56Speaker 4: human lifting something, especially luggage, all day long, you have
- 4:59Speaker 4: to know the right way to do it or else
- 5:01Speaker 4: you're going to get hurt. And so I'm sure there's
- 5:02Speaker 4: another aspect here of safety where you know, they don't
- 5:06Speaker 4: have to pay out these claims for people saying, oh
- 5:09Speaker 4: I hurt my back lifting all these luggage pieces and
- 5:11Speaker 4: these cargo bins.
- 5:13Speaker 3: So we'll see how it works.
- 5:14Speaker 1: I looked at the.
- 5:15Speaker 4: Video from Tokyo and you know where they had a
- 5:17Speaker 4: media demo, and I'll be honest, Bill, it looks like
- 5:19Speaker 4: a human could do a better job at this point.
- 5:21Speaker 4: But again it's probably a bigger picture of these jobs
- 5:26Speaker 4: are tough to fill. And again all of the claims
- 5:29Speaker 4: that these people have with you know, getting hurt on
- 5:32Speaker 4: the job is probably a big aspect of this as well.
- 5:34Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense. And what do you tip these
- 5:36Speaker 2: robots like a can of WD forty? I mean, it's
- 5:39Speaker 2: you know, they don't take money. Some media scams. Social
- 5:43Speaker 2: media scams have serge. I'm getting these more and more.
- 5:48Speaker 2: I enjoy them. I'm hoping that someone on the other
- 5:50Speaker 2: end actually talks to me. But I say no to everything.
- 5:54Speaker 2: So I'm not a victim of this stuff. But a
- 5:57Speaker 2: lot of people are. You want to share some of
- 5:59Speaker 2: the facts on this one, Rich.
- 6:02Speaker 4: Yeah, The thing is you know what you're doing, but
- 6:06Speaker 4: clearly these scams hook a lot of people. New FTC
- 6:09Speaker 4: data shows that total losses stemming from social media hit
- 6:14Speaker 4: two point one.
- 6:16Speaker 1: Billion dollars last year.
- 6:18Speaker 4: That's up eight times since twenty twenty, which means more
- 6:21Speaker 4: and more people are being scammed out of things on
- 6:24Speaker 4: social media platforms. Number one Facebook, that's the biggest, Number
- 6:28Speaker 4: two Instagram, number three WhatsApp, the trifecta of meta companies.
- 6:34Speaker 4: And it's not because they're doing anything wrong necessarily, it's
- 6:37Speaker 4: because they are the three biggest and that's where the
- 6:40Speaker 4: scammers go to find folks, and believe me, they find them.
- 6:44Speaker 4: So the biggest issue investment scams over a billion dollars loss.
- 6:48Speaker 4: This often starts with an ad or a message. You know, obviously,
- 6:52Speaker 4: people are always looking for an easy book number two
- 6:56Speaker 4: shopping scams. I did a story with a guy who
- 6:58Speaker 4: ordered one of those face Well, I guess it looks
- 7:02Speaker 4: like a real puppy, like an AI puppy.
- 7:04Speaker 1: It's called waffy.
- 7:05Speaker 4: And you know, got a cheap five dollars five and
- 7:08Speaker 4: dime store puppy. Oh my gosh, I just dated myself
- 7:10Speaker 4: five and dime store. That's number two. And then romance
- 7:15Speaker 4: scam still huge. I had a caller to the radio
- 7:18Speaker 4: show said, Hey, Rich, I've got friends this country country star,
- 7:22Speaker 4: the singer wants to be friends with me. And I said, now, why,
- 7:26Speaker 4: nothing against you, but why do you think this country,
- 7:29Speaker 4: this superstar wants to be friends with you. They don't.
- 7:32Speaker 4: This is a scam. It's happening, Bill, It happens all
- 7:35Speaker 4: the time, so be on the lookout.
- 7:38Speaker 2: And I'm assuming it is so easy because they can
- 7:42Speaker 2: send out five million of these messages with just a
- 7:46Speaker 2: touch of a button, where it's just just so sie.
- 7:49Speaker 2: They could even do it to the entire population in
- 7:51Speaker 2: the United States. I'm assuming we're just a touch of
- 7:53Speaker 2: a button.
- 7:55Speaker 4: Well, yeah, there's so many ways they can do it.
- 7:56Speaker 4: I mean, they can do it by taking out ads,
- 7:58Speaker 4: and they can target those ads specific to people.
- 8:00Speaker 1: So that's one way.
- 8:02Speaker 4: They hack accounts, so they grab you know, Grandma's account
- 8:05Speaker 4: and then they send messages out to all of her
- 8:07Speaker 4: friends so it looks like it's coming from grandma. And
- 8:10Speaker 4: then that's another way, and you know it's just people
- 8:13Speaker 4: chatting people, unsolicited messages, all kinds of stuff. But the
- 8:17Speaker 4: bottom line is you have to be aware. I post
- 8:21Speaker 4: these things to my Instagram at richon tex I'm always
- 8:23Speaker 4: posting the latest scam, so follow me there if you
- 8:25Speaker 4: want that. But what I find interesting is it's two groups, right,
- 8:30Speaker 4: I mean it's the young people who you know, Bill
- 8:33Speaker 4: haven't really seen this stuff before, so they're getting tricked.
- 8:36Speaker 4: And then of course the old people, which you know
- 8:39Speaker 4: you don't they're not necessarily thinking clearly and they may
- 8:42Speaker 4: not have the facilities to figure out that these things
- 8:45Speaker 4: are a scam. So please tell your friends and family,
- 8:48Speaker 4: educate them, slow down, don't send your money to people,
- 8:51Speaker 4: don't reply, don't link, don't click links that you get randomly.
- 8:55Speaker 4: There's just so many ways, there's so many attack vectors.
- 8:58Speaker 4: At this point, you just always have to ass whom
- 9:00Speaker 4: everything is a scam.
- 9:02Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the other issue, is I assume that literally
- 9:06Speaker 2: everything I get is a scam. People who email me, friends, family,
- 9:10Speaker 2: It's all a scam.
- 9:11Speaker 1: I'm not interested in talking about.
- 9:13Speaker 4: If I get a phone call, I'm just ignoring them,
- 9:16Speaker 4: closest friends sending right to voicemail.
- 9:20Speaker 2: Yeah, and also the easy one is just don't have
- 9:23Speaker 2: any friends and ignore your family like I do, and
- 9:26Speaker 2: then none of this happens. Now it ranges from where
- 9:30Speaker 2: you can easily see the scam.
- 9:32Speaker 1: I mean again, I'll tell you what I get three
- 9:34Speaker 1: times a day. Pick up.
- 9:35Speaker 2: You have a pickup waiting for you? Yeah, from where?
- 9:38Speaker 2: From whom? It's just pick up waiting for you, not
- 9:41Speaker 2: even a place. And then of course you go to
- 9:44Speaker 2: the link. And that was fairly easy to figure out.
- 9:48Speaker 2: What are the real sophisticated ones that could even fool
- 9:51Speaker 2: you if they're done right.
- 9:53Speaker 4: Well, I think there's some new ones coming down the line,
- 9:56Speaker 4: and these are really dealing with authentication of your accounts.
- 9:59Speaker 4: So so we already know that if you have two
- 10:02Speaker 4: factor authentication in place and also a strong unique password,
- 10:06Speaker 4: it is infinitely tougher for these people to hack you.
- 10:09Speaker 4: So what do they do? They come up with ways
- 10:12Speaker 4: of getting around that. So the newest way we're seeing
- 10:15Speaker 4: is they will send a QR code that when you
- 10:18Speaker 4: scan it, and you have to do this from your phone.
- 10:21Speaker 4: You scan it from your phone, and a lot of
- 10:22Speaker 4: times your phone may automatically log you in or help
- 10:26Speaker 4: you log in quickly because you have a password manager
- 10:29Speaker 4: on there, some sort of system that helps you log
- 10:32Speaker 4: in faster. Multi factor authentication. So that's the new attack
- 10:35Speaker 4: vector where they're trying to come up with ways that
- 10:37Speaker 4: we know we're authenticating these accounts, but it's using that
- 10:41Speaker 4: against us. And so you have to be very careful.
- 10:44Speaker 4: Anytime that you see autofill anywhere, just confirm that is
- 10:49Speaker 4: actually the website you're trying to autofill on. Most of
- 10:52Speaker 4: the systems are pretty good at not filling in your
- 10:54Speaker 4: user name and password and all that stuff on a
- 10:56Speaker 4: bogus website, but they can make mistakes, and especially bill
- 11:00Speaker 4: one I saw today. I got an email that said, hell,
- 11:03Speaker 4: your your CHATCHBT payment could not be processed. And if
- 11:06Speaker 4: you click through to this website, and you know, if
- 11:09Speaker 4: you do that and you click through the credit card
- 11:12Speaker 4: field where they want you to type in your credit card,
- 11:14Speaker 4: what pops up all your saved credit card information it's like, hey,
- 11:17Speaker 4: do you want me to auto fill this? So, I mean,
- 11:20Speaker 4: these are the things that you just have to be
- 11:22Speaker 4: aware of and just understand. Slow down, that's the main thing.
- 11:26Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to keep up. Who's the ahead?
- 11:28Speaker 2: I know, the bad guys are always ahead of the
- 11:31Speaker 2: people that are trying to regulate.
- 11:33Speaker 1: How far ahead are those bad guys?
- 11:37Speaker 4: I mean, look, if they're still getting two point one
- 11:39Speaker 4: billion dollars worth out of Americans just on social media alone,
- 11:43Speaker 4: they're ahead. Now. Now, if you and I saw the scams,
- 11:46Speaker 4: could you identify it? Probably? But the problem is there
- 11:50Speaker 4: are many many people out there. There are people, like
- 11:52Speaker 4: I say on the show, you know, you're doing your job.
- 11:54Speaker 4: You're busy doing your job. You don't have the time
- 11:57Speaker 4: to keep up with all this stuff.
- 11:58Speaker 1: Like I do.
- 11:58Speaker 4: I'm seeing everything, and I'm talking to every expert and
- 12:01Speaker 4: I'm hearing what's coming down the line. So not everyone's
- 12:04Speaker 4: doing that. And that's, by the way, why you should
- 12:06Speaker 4: listen to the show, because once you're aware of all
- 12:09Speaker 4: these different ways that they come and get you, you
- 12:12Speaker 4: can be you know, on guard and understand that most
- 12:15Speaker 4: of this stuff is completely bogus.
- 12:17Speaker 2: Okay, Rich, this Saturday eleven or two right here on
- 12:21Speaker 2: KFI TV KTLA every day his Instagram account at rich
- 12:26Speaker 2: on Tech website, rich on tech dot TV, and Rich
- 12:31Speaker 2: asks you for money.
- 12:33Speaker 1: It's not a scam. He really wants and needs your money.
- 12:36Speaker 1: Is that fair?
- 12:37Speaker 2: Rich?
- 12:39Speaker 4: No, people pretend they're me.
- 12:42Speaker 3: No.
- 12:42Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you got it.
- 12:44Speaker 2: We'll catch you this weekend and then next Wednesday, have
- 12:47Speaker 2: a good one, or actually next Tuesday on tech Tuesday.
- 12:50Speaker 2: All right, all right, yesterday I was at Gelson's buying
- 12:55Speaker 2: an item and either that or making a mortgage payment.
- 12:58Speaker 2: You always have your choice when you go to Gelson's.
- 13:01Speaker 2: But I also shop at Ralph's and I shop at Pavilions.
- 13:04Speaker 2: There's one down the street. A couple things that are
- 13:07Speaker 2: fairly new in the world of markets. I mean, we
- 13:10Speaker 2: were around for a few years, but things that never
- 13:12Speaker 2: happened before. And that is one, there's a deli counter
- 13:16Speaker 2: where they make fresh foods, and that wasn't in your
- 13:19Speaker 2: supermarket for well until fairly recently. The other one that
- 13:26Speaker 2: you're seeing more and more, Ralphs has it, Pavilions has
- 13:29Speaker 2: it around my house, certainly Gelson has it. Is a
- 13:32Speaker 2: sushi bar where they make fresh sushi. Now, ten years ago,
- 13:39Speaker 2: would you ever have noticed there was a sushi bar
- 13:42Speaker 2: at a restaurant, a supermarket?
- 13:44Speaker 1: Of course not.
- 13:45Speaker 2: And it's always some Japanese guy who is making the sushi.
- 13:49Speaker 2: You ever notice that because you go to restaurants like
- 13:53Speaker 2: Anaheim White House restaurant Italian high end Italian food. They
- 13:58Speaker 2: pretend Bruno pretends to have Italians there, but they're all
- 14:02Speaker 2: from South Dakota with the fake Italian accents.
- 14:05Speaker 1: And when you go.
- 14:07Speaker 2: To pizza parlors, when you go to other high and restaurants,
- 14:10Speaker 2: it's always Hispanic. By the way, they really are Italian
- 14:13Speaker 2: at at Anaheim White House. But the point is, these
- 14:16Speaker 2: are Japanese guys who are cutting up and making the
- 14:21Speaker 2: sushi and traditional sushi. And I'm thinking, how long ago
- 14:26Speaker 2: was it where sushi you never even heard of sushi?
- 14:30Speaker 2: It was so exotic. I mean certainly, not even just
- 14:35Speaker 2: in my lifetime. But Neil, maybe in the last twenty years,
- 14:39Speaker 2: sushi has become a regular thing.
- 14:41Speaker 1: Oh more and more.
- 14:42Speaker 5: I mean it's been around since earlier than that, the fifties.
- 14:48Speaker 2: No, what I'm talking about, I understand that, but I'm
- 14:50Speaker 2: talking about in the supermarket all sushi bars we're talking about.
- 14:56Speaker 5: I will tell you one of our favorites here at
- 14:58Speaker 5: the house is zen Shi sushi and you can find
- 15:02Speaker 5: it at grocery stores. You know, Vaughn's Albertson's type of thing, Ralph.
- 15:06Speaker 1: But those are I understand those are that's package sushi.
- 15:09Speaker 5: She's sushi right. Well, no, some of them have set
- 15:13Speaker 5: up right there in this wor right.
- 15:15Speaker 1: That's the point I'm making. They have sushi chefs.
- 15:19Speaker 2: Now, I haven't seen you where you sit down like
- 15:21Speaker 2: in a sushi restaurant at the counter. They just make
- 15:24Speaker 2: it fresh right there, and then they'll give it to
- 15:27Speaker 2: you and wrap it up. And there is a whole
- 15:29Speaker 2: history of sushi in the United States that I want
- 15:32Speaker 2: to share with you because this is fascinating stuff.
- 15:35Speaker 1: It really is.
- 15:36Speaker 2: Because you have certain things that have come from Italy
- 15:38Speaker 2: that really don't come from Italy. For example, pizza is
- 15:41Speaker 2: much bigger here than over there. It's just a huge
- 15:45Speaker 2: thing here. Saint Patrick's Day is more American that will
- 15:48Speaker 2: than ever be in Ireland. Ireland, they follow the United States.
- 15:54Speaker 2: Saint Patrick's Day. Cinco de Mayo is American. It is
- 15:57Speaker 2: not Mexican. Yeah, it is not and sushi still is Japanese.
- 16:03Speaker 1: But it has become American eyes. For sure.
- 16:05Speaker 2: I love going to sushi restaurants and asking for my
- 16:09Speaker 2: sushi done, well done, and they always think that it's very,
- 16:13Speaker 2: very strange.
- 16:14Speaker 1: Here comes that idiot handle.
- 16:16Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the ones I love where they scream
- 16:20Speaker 2: when you leave the restaurant, you know, and then everybody screams,
- 16:24Speaker 2: and it's great fun. Sure, but I don't know what
- 16:27Speaker 2: it is. I know it's not an eba iba. I
- 16:30Speaker 2: know it's not that.
- 16:32Speaker 1: If they do, I would run, Yeah, pretty much.
- 16:36Speaker 2: So I want to go then the history of sushi
- 16:38Speaker 2: in the United States, because we have accepted sushi as
- 16:42Speaker 2: this part and parcel of what we do. And keep
- 16:45Speaker 2: in mind as a kid, where sushi wasn't all that popular.
- 16:50Speaker 2: Raw fish, Who the hell eats raw fish? That is
- 16:56Speaker 2: one of the most disgusting things you would think, Amy,
- 16:59Speaker 2: we all eat sushi. I get it, But when you
- 17:02Speaker 2: were a kid, the concept of raw fish.
- 17:05Speaker 1: Didn't you find out?
- 17:06Speaker 5: Americans decades, decades, thirty years plus to accept this, and
- 17:12Speaker 5: we modified it into roles which are not traditional by
- 17:15Speaker 5: that's correct, that's correct.
- 17:17Speaker 1: They're not in Japan.
- 17:19Speaker 2: They don't do roles the way we do fascinating stuff.
- 17:23Speaker 2: It really is, we've gone from raw fish to sushi.
- 17:28Speaker 2: Restaurants are just simply part of America. And I brought
- 17:32Speaker 2: this up because supermarkets now have a sushi bar where
- 17:35Speaker 2: you have someone making sushi fresh right there, and so
- 17:40Speaker 2: a little bit of the history of sushi. It was
- 17:42Speaker 2: actually introduced in the United States in the late eighteen hundreds.
- 17:47Speaker 2: Japanese immigrants of which there are plenty of them, especially
- 17:51Speaker 2: La and San Francisco, brought sushi to the US, but
- 17:55Speaker 2: it was mainly eaten within the Japanese community. I mean
- 17:58Speaker 2: we did not we as Americans not accept sushi, and
- 18:02Speaker 2: it wasn't widely known or accepted.
- 18:05Speaker 1: Now.
- 18:06Speaker 2: It was getting more popular prior to World War Two,
- 18:09Speaker 2: but during World War Two there weren't any Japanese because
- 18:12Speaker 2: they were all in turned and internment camps in the desert,
- 18:16Speaker 2: and it's very hard to get fresh fish in the desert,
- 18:20Speaker 2: so that didn't happen. But the nineteen fifth through the
- 18:24Speaker 2: sixties there was this revival and one of the first
- 18:28Speaker 2: sushi bars that catered to non Japanese customers opened La
- 18:33Speaker 2: in the sixties, and that was in Little Tokyo, still exotic,
- 18:40Speaker 2: unfamiliar to most Americans.
- 18:42Speaker 1: Ooh, raw fish. So how did it turn around?
- 18:45Speaker 2: Well, we start with, as Neil pointed this out, the
- 18:48Speaker 2: California role came into being, replacing raw fish with imitation crab,
- 18:55Speaker 2: crab with a K, which is it's with a k.
- 19:01Speaker 2: Avocado there is not much. There's not a big avocado
- 19:05Speaker 2: industry in Japan. They don't use a lot of avocado there.
- 19:09Speaker 2: Turning the rice to the outside it became an inside
- 19:13Speaker 2: out roll, which was usual, which was unusual, and so
- 19:19Speaker 2: it became all more approachable. And the mainstream popularity started
- 19:23Speaker 2: in nineteen eighties. Before that, if you were around, who
- 19:28Speaker 2: heard from sushi? So by the eighties in New York
- 19:31Speaker 2: and LA particularly, it was associated with health conscious eating
- 19:36Speaker 2: and upscale dining. Good sushi is still very expensive, and
- 19:41Speaker 2: that's one of the things that I eat because I
- 19:42Speaker 2: really enjoy eating that's healthy for you.
- 19:45Speaker 1: I hate healthy. I think healthy will kill you every time.
- 19:49Speaker 2: And then we now have grocery stores, casual sushi spots,
- 19:54Speaker 2: all you can eat sushi. I don't know if any
- 19:57Speaker 2: of those are left where you can do all your
- 20:00Speaker 2: Yeah it's horrible sushi.
- 20:02Speaker 5: Yeah, No, no, there's there's one in upland that's that's great.
- 20:07Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, because there's none around here, and the sushi
- 20:11Speaker 2: around here or where I lived in the valley not
- 20:16Speaker 2: not particularly good anyway. Like many other kinds of food,
- 20:20Speaker 2: it evolved Chinese food. Chinese people don't really recognize Chinese
- 20:26Speaker 2: food here in southern California particularly, or you've.
- 20:31Speaker 1: Got what else.
- 20:34Speaker 2: Italian restaurants have become very Americanized in many cases, and
- 20:39Speaker 2: so you now have fusion roles which don't exist in China.
- 20:47Speaker 2: We have presentations that are not the same. And there's
- 20:51Speaker 2: also growing appreciation for traditional sushi, sushi with chefs focusing
- 20:58Speaker 2: on authenticity. Those are the restaurants that cost a fortune.
- 21:03Speaker 2: And I remember, well in Japan. I don't know if
- 21:05Speaker 2: you've ever eaten sushi in Japan. I've ever been to Japan.
- 21:08Speaker 2: I mean it is science fiction. What the cost of
- 21:10Speaker 2: sushi is over in science over in Japan, and sushi
- 21:15Speaker 2: chef spend years learning their skill. It's taking a knife
- 21:21Speaker 2: and cutting up fish. Okay, thank you, that takes years
- 21:27Speaker 2: to learn. Don't you just get a big cleaver and
- 21:30Speaker 2: just cut off a fish's head.
- 21:32Speaker 5: A lot of former moils.
- 21:36Speaker 2: Yes, because they are the super sliced in them. There's
- 21:39Speaker 2: a whole world to sushi. There is, and I am
- 21:43Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan. I really really enjoy sushi.
- 21:46Speaker 5: It's delicious, but it is you know, the traditional sushi
- 21:51Speaker 5: is so simple that it's really a flavor forward on
- 21:58Speaker 5: just the elements where we put I mean some of it.
- 22:01Speaker 5: If you go i'm asake, they will tell you, don't
- 22:05Speaker 5: put soy sauce on this, don't do this, don't do that.
- 22:08Speaker 5: And a lot of them are eaten very purely, whereas
- 22:12Speaker 5: we put sauce and goop and dip it in this
- 22:15Speaker 5: and all of that stuff.
- 22:16Speaker 1: You know, it's really good with sushi. A one sauce.
- 22:21Speaker 2: Gross barbecue sauce also works very well with sushi. Some
- 22:26Speaker 2: sweet eel sauce those are now sweet eel sauce is great. Yeah,
- 22:31Speaker 2: I mean that is terrific. Oh wish I'd go to
- 22:34Speaker 2: a sushi restaurant. You know what we ought to do
- 22:36Speaker 2: is have a sushi restaurant deliver. If there's a sushi
- 22:39Speaker 2: restaurant chef out there or an owner, tell you, what,
- 22:41Speaker 2: why don't you deliver some to the station and we'll
- 22:44Speaker 2: give you we'll give you a free plug. Yes, that
- 22:47Speaker 2: is completely houring ourselves. There is no way the better
- 22:51Speaker 2: come from San Diego.
- 22:53Speaker 1: Yes, all right, guys, we are done again.
- 22:57Speaker 2: Tomorrow morning we start all over again, and it's a
- 23:00Speaker 2: Wednesday tomorrow, which means which means Jim Keeney is going
- 23:03Speaker 2: to be with us. And we've got Gary and Shannon
- 23:07Speaker 2: up right now tomorrow morning, will Cole, Schreiber and Amy
- 23:11Speaker 2: from five to six, will wake up, call Neil and
- 23:13Speaker 2: I jump in from six to just about now, and
- 23:16Speaker 2: Cono and and uh, sort of the oil that keeps the.
- 23:22Speaker 1: The show running. Yeah, it's a little bit. You know,
- 23:24Speaker 1: it's a lot.
- 23:25Speaker 2: That's why you don't have pimples, Cono, because they slide
- 23:28Speaker 2: right off. You are the oil of mean it means
- 23:34Speaker 2: you're oily.
- 23:37Speaker 1: Did that work? I guess not. It was a little
- 23:40Speaker 1: bit obscure. Yeah. KFI am sixty. You've been listening to
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