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241: Sister Wives Recap - The Land of Milk and Honey? (S19 E21) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe on the night
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  Speaker 1: of My Cat's King Saniera and two nights after Sister
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  Speaker 1: Wives Season nineteen, episode twenty one. Yes, we have returned
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  Speaker 1: to season nineteen and a lot has happened and I'm
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  Speaker 1: So Sister Wives Season nineteen, episode twenty one, if you can.
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  Speaker 2: Believe for donculous and title the Land of Milk and
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  Speaker 2: Honey question mark.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, I don't know if that's.
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  Speaker 2: Referring to Tieta Farms.
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  Speaker 1: I think so. I think it's referred to its referring
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  Speaker 1: to Janelle's trek across the nation and her new home
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  Speaker 1: in North Carolina. That's what I think it.
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  Speaker 2: Is, probably, yeah, And I mean that's where we start
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  Speaker 2: the episode. We start still on the way to North Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: Last we left was when Janelle and Christine and David
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  Speaker 2: were taking shots in some bar in Louisiana or something, right,
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  Speaker 2: And so now they're on the road again. David's driving
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  Speaker 2: the U haul for Janelle, which is very sweet, very nice,
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  Speaker 2: very nice, And we have some interesting conversations between Christine
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  Speaker 2: and David in that U haul, and then we have
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  Speaker 2: some interstitials between Cody and Robin God and Janelle. Pause,
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  Speaker 2: what because I forgot to ask you what your major
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  Speaker 2: takeaway was? And I really did want to ask you, like,
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  Speaker 2: after you watch this entire episode, did you walk away
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  Speaker 2: with a specific flavor or a vibe And if.
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  Speaker 1: So, what was that?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Robin looks less terrible, okay, And these interstitials
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  Speaker 2: I think it's very generous of you. I know, I'm
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  Speaker 2: being really nice starting off on a good note. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: but she was a major bstch this episode. Yeah, Like
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  Speaker 2: she was just talking some smack about Mary. She was
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  Speaker 2: kind of throwing some digs towards Christine and Janelle a
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  Speaker 2: little bit, calling them all toxic. I'm like, you, little snake,
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  Speaker 2: little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Mask off. Yeah, mask is coming off. It's slipping, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: slipping off.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 1: My major takeaway was like, this is what it would
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  Speaker 1: be if the show was just about Cody and Robin
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  Speaker 1: and their kids, Like the baptism stuff and the Josephines
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  Speaker 1: outside all dressed as if it's Easter, which it's not
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  Speaker 1: because it's June of twenty twenty four, pretending that Aura
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  Speaker 1: just got baptized, which she did not. Everything is a performance.
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  Speaker 1: Everything is fake, and it's all just set up to
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  Speaker 1: talk about Robin and Cody being soulmates or how fantastic
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  Speaker 1: apparent Cody or Robin is. I mean, like, this is
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  Speaker 1: all it is, and I seriously, I seriously could have
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  Speaker 1: done without seeing them at all, and it would have
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  Speaker 1: been a better episode. Like I can spend all day
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  Speaker 1: with Janelle talking about her plans her Farmers Only dot com.
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  Speaker 1: I can even listen to Christine Babylon about what she's
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  Speaker 1: doing with David. And I loved the scenes with Mary
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  Speaker 1: and especially with jen like that could have been the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing, and I would never have missed Cody and
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  Speaker 1: Robin and their progeny. Yeah, all rotten Hale, according to
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  Speaker 1: Brittany in Hale.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, I just didn't understand that whole baptism.
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  Speaker 1: We don't need them. We literally only need to refer
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  Speaker 1: to them and what might be happening as their lives
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  Speaker 1: are destroyed. Yeah, extraneously, Like we don't need to have
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  Speaker 1: scenes with them at all, right.
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  Speaker 2: We just need Newsweek articles about them filing for bankruptcy.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, j for all of that. That's all like people
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  Speaker 1: talking about that but never ever having to see them again.
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  Speaker 1: That's like how I felt about it.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, how do you guys feel about it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Like, did you have any major takeaways after you watch
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  Speaker 1: this episode? If so, drop down in the comments or
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  Speaker 1: on the Instagram or Patreon or Patreon. Yeah, absolutely, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: back to the episode. Sorry, that I took us on
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  Speaker 1: a detail.
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  Speaker 2: It's okay.
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  Speaker 1: So we've got Janelle and Christine and David making the
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  Speaker 1: truck all the way to North Carolina. There were some
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  Speaker 1: interesting conversations in the U haul YEP, like what struck.
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  Speaker 2: You Well, it was interesting how they were talking about
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  Speaker 2: marriages keeping score. I think David was the one that
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  Speaker 2: brought it up. He's like, you should never keep score
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  Speaker 2: in a marriage, because Christine was talking about how everything
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  Speaker 2: had to always be like fifty to fifty and now
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  Speaker 2: she doesn't have to worry about it because David's still amazing.
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  Speaker 2: He's like the most perfect husband. And David's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you should never keep score in a marriage. That's like
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  Speaker 2: when it's doomed. And then Christine makes a comment about
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  Speaker 2: how she was always keeping score in her marriage with Cody,
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  Speaker 2: specifically with Robin. She would look over at Robin and
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  Speaker 2: be like, Wow, she has better dishes and a better
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  Speaker 2: couch and better clothes and better everything, and I'm left
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  Speaker 2: with all of the scraps. And that was kind of
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  Speaker 2: spelling doom for their family and for their marriage.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and then pan to Robin on the couch and
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  Speaker 1: she's talking, well, oh my gosh, if we have to
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  Speaker 1: keep scored, then like are we even friends? Are we
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  Speaker 1: even in a family together? Like it makes no sense.
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  Speaker 1: Are they supposed to be on the same team? Which
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  Speaker 1: is easy for you to say when you're the one
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  Speaker 1: who's getting all the stuff, you're the one that's taking
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  Speaker 1: all the resources. You're the one that's getting all the
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  Speaker 1: money and the McMansions and the benefit of this family.
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  Speaker 1: But when somebody else isn't, and indeed, when they're getting
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  Speaker 1: the dregs and the scraps, you come in acting like
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  Speaker 1: that's not valid. Come on, Robin, no, you cannot believe
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  Speaker 1: that yourself. That does I think I don't think she
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  Speaker 1: believed that.
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  Speaker 2: She's been tough in her farts for so many years.
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  Speaker 2: I really do think she believes it because it makes
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  Speaker 2: her think that she's not the villain in this whole
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  Speaker 2: entire situation. And she can't acknowledge that she's the villain.
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  Speaker 2: She can't acknowledge that she's even at fault for anything.
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  Speaker 2: It's everybody else has to manage their jealousy, everybody else
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  Speaker 2: has to stop comparing their apples to my orange, like
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  Speaker 2: it's everyone else's fault.
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  Speaker 1: Well, she kind of comes close when she talks about
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  Speaker 1: the failings of the family, like the things they could
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  Speaker 1: have done differently, like God could have been more centered
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  Speaker 1: in their relationships, et cetera, et cetera. But like she
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  Speaker 1: never gets to the part where she says, and what
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  Speaker 1: I could have done differently exactly, and this is what
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  Speaker 1: I learned from all of this, and this is how
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  Speaker 1: I'm changing my behavior going forward. Like it, we never
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  Speaker 1: get in the ballpark.
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  Speaker 2: Of that, yeah, never. And then we have another conversation
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  Speaker 2: with Christine and David about camping, and this is like
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  Speaker 2: in the context of Christine mentioning how Cody wanted everybody
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  Speaker 2: to always look very nice, and he would praise the
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  Speaker 2: wives when they would like wear a lot of makeup
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  Speaker 2: and they'd wear their push up bras. I'm just joking,
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  Speaker 2: but like when they would like look really nice and
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  Speaker 2: done up for him. And Robin was always prioritizing that,
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  Speaker 2: like when they went camping as a family, Christine and
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  Speaker 2: Janelle would be slaving away caring for all of the
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  Speaker 2: thousand of kids that were on this camping trip, cooking
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  Speaker 2: and cleaning and sweating and looking like crap. And then
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  Speaker 2: there's Robin and we have a flashback.
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  Speaker 1: Which I love. I love that because they really don't
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  Speaker 1: do that at all. They don't like and there are
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  Speaker 1: so many cataloged lies and we're constantly screaming from the
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  Speaker 1: dumpster that can you just flash back to season X,
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  Speaker 1: Y or Z. And here we have it. We have
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  Speaker 1: the actual flashback to that camping trip. I want to
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  Speaker 1: say it was the first or the second season, and
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  Speaker 1: that's the camping trip that Hunter gets really upset and
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  Speaker 1: Janelle has to correct him, right, because how dare you
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  Speaker 1: have feelings exactly? You're not entitled to feeling yep. But
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  Speaker 1: we see her sitting on her ass putting non makeup.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't look six months pregnant to me, I know,
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  Speaker 1: but that.
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  Speaker 2: Was her justification. Well, the producer showed the splashback of
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  Speaker 2: her doing her makeup while everybody else is slaving away.
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  Speaker 1: Well Mary's not well, Mary's.
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  Speaker 2: Sitting there with her friend watching her do makeup. Right, So,
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  Speaker 2: and then we have Rob and being like, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: on that camping trip, it was six months pregnant. I
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  Speaker 2: was really sick and I was up all night on
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  Speaker 2: my hands and knees, throwing up outside of my tent.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's why I was doing my makeup because
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  Speaker 2: I had to get ready for the day because I
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  Speaker 2: was sick.
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  Speaker 1: I just think she's lying, So, yeah, bald is it
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  Speaker 1: bald faced? Is it a bold face?
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  Speaker 2: She's lying? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Why are you always lying? And she's just making it
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  Speaker 1: up on the fly. Maybe she didn't expect the producer
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  Speaker 1: to ask that question, and she's like, what they said, what?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: No, absolutely not. It was six months pregnant.
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  Speaker 2: You were No, you weren't.
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  Speaker 1: You don't look like you have any belt. Maybe you're
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  Speaker 1: a little bit pregnant, maybe you could have some morning sickness.
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  Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is you let these
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  Speaker 1: other women do all of the heavy lifting while you
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  Speaker 1: sat your pretty self down in your decel genes and
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  Speaker 1: you put your eyeliner rod.
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  Speaker 2: For your man on a camping trip, which is just ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: And then this was where Christine made a comment that
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  Speaker 2: I wish she would have expanded on about how Cody
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  Speaker 2: that camping trip is like praising Robin over and over again,
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  Speaker 2: about how beautiful she looked and how amazing she looked
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  Speaker 2: in front of all these other wives, And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I want more examples like this. I want more of
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  Speaker 2: the wives to say stories like this because I want
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  Speaker 2: more of a window into how they were treated differently
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  Speaker 2: off camera, because we don't really see moments like that,
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  Speaker 2: especially in the earlier seasons. Like Cody is very careful
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  Speaker 2: to make us believe that he cares about all of
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  Speaker 2: the other wives. We don't get to see those moments
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  Speaker 2: off camera where he's like, oh my god, Robin, you're
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  Speaker 2: so beautiful. O my god. Right, and then not like
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  Speaker 2: praising Christine or Janelle or any of the other ones,
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  Speaker 2: or maybe putting them down. We just don't know, Like
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It was just an interesting comment that
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  Speaker 2: Christine made very much.
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  Speaker 1: And of course all along as an audience, we've been
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  Speaker 1: sniffing it out and we have our monocles and we
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  Speaker 1: can sense what's going on the disturbance in the forest,
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  Speaker 1: but like to actually have these open conversations, that's what
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  Speaker 1: we have been waiting for. Yep, And we get some
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  Speaker 1: of that from Mary. I know we're rushing ahead, but
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  Speaker 1: Mary does bring us some tea in this episode, which I.
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  Speaker 2: Loved a little bit, like a tiny little saucer of tea.
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  Speaker 1: She's still a bit defensive of Cody, but yes, it's something.
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  Speaker 2: It is something and then we have like an interstitial
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  Speaker 2: with Cody and Robin where Cody says they're like moving
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  Speaker 2: on from all of the toxicity of all the other
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  Speaker 2: wives leaving him and him and Robin are like really
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  Speaker 2: trying to work on their relationship, make things better. Sure,
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  Speaker 2: then we have Robin saying there was a lot of
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  Speaker 2: unfair fighting going on behind the scenes, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people punching below the belt, calling each other names. And
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  Speaker 2: I think she said something, oh, jumping to conclusions, and
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  Speaker 2: all of these fights were what broke up the family.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, can you explod on that?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, please elaborate.
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  Speaker 2: I would love to know who was fighting who.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like when Robin is saying this is
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  Speaker 1: what we were doing, I think what she's really saying
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  Speaker 1: is that's what I was doing. I was not fightings faily.
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  Speaker 1: And I think also she might be referring to keeping
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  Speaker 1: school and things of that nature, to the schedule, to
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  Speaker 1: the amount of time that Cody spent at her house
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  Speaker 1: versus everybody else, and so this unfair of fighting, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's coming from you, Robin. I think the
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  Speaker 1: call is coming from inside the house.
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  Speaker 2: She makes a couple comments like that that I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you're referring to yourself.
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  Speaker 1: You're telling on yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, but you think you're telling on the otherwise, but
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  Speaker 2: it's you. And then we finally arrive in North Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: I guess Janelle's going to be living with Caleb and
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  Speaker 2: Maddie in a room above their garage, which I thought
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  Speaker 2: was really sweet, actually yeah, and really great for her.
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  Speaker 2: And she's sold everything, She's terminated all her releases, like
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  Speaker 2: she's done. She straight up says the only ties that
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  Speaker 2: she has to flag Staff now are Savannah and Gabe,
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  Speaker 2: because I guess they still live out in town.
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  Speaker 1: Which is interesting because when we were actually moving, leaving
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  Speaker 1: flag Staff and getting in the U haul to start
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  Speaker 1: this journey and go to the storage unit in the
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  Speaker 1: sky and then get on through to Louisiana, like that
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  Speaker 1: was like January of twenty twenty four, I do believe,
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  Speaker 1: and at that time, Garrison was still with us, and
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  Speaker 1: so she referred to Garrison then in those particular scenes.
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  Speaker 1: But now we see sufficient time has passed and we've
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  Speaker 1: got Janelle kind of correcting the record, like Harrison is
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  Speaker 1: no longer in flag Staff, And for me, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: can we take a beat, though, yep, can we pause
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  Speaker 1: and address that? I would have loved that? Ye, I
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  Speaker 1: am not owed that. I acknowledge it, But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: just like, when are we going to talk about this,
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  Speaker 1: because at least in the timeline with Aurora getting baptized,
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  Speaker 1: which we'll talk about, and with the move and the
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  Speaker 1: farms and the acquiring of the property in North Carolina,
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  Speaker 1: like Garrison has past, are we just not going to
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  Speaker 1: mention it until Suki's talking to us about it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to talk about it at all, unfortunately, Wow,
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  Speaker 2: and I just don't understand it. Me and Ethel were
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: actually talking about it today and she was making some
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  Speaker 2: good points about like it might have been Janelle's call
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: that and we've talked about the show for like Janelle
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  Speaker 2: probably was the one that said we're not going to
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  Speaker 2: talk about him at all on the show. Or it
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: could have been TLC's call because he was texting TLC
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  Speaker 2: producer the night that he died, and so maybe TLC
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  Speaker 2: wants to not be liable at all, and so they
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  Speaker 2: just were like maybe they pitched it to the family
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  Speaker 2: and they were like, yeah, we're just not going to
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  Speaker 2: mention Garrison at all. And the family being the family
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  Speaker 2: who's great is like, you know what, that's fair great.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have to talk about it. And I mean,
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  Speaker 2: like you had said, we are not owed anything as
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  Speaker 2: the fans, We do not deserve any kind of conclusions
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  Speaker 2: or anything like that. I just feel bad for the
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  Speaker 2: memory of Garrison, for him to just be a bit erased, yes,
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  Speaker 2: as if he.
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  Speaker 1: Never was, as if he's not factoring in so deeply
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  Speaker 1: and profoundly to Janelle's journey right now and to her
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  Speaker 1: experience of exact life and all of the thoughts that
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  Speaker 1: she's having right now acquiring this land in North Carolina,
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  Speaker 1: Like that's I mean, I would really love to tap
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  Speaker 1: into your spirit about that. And yeah, we're not out
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  Speaker 1: that and she can do whatever she wants. Like from
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  Speaker 1: a meta position, if we could all just pop up
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  Speaker 1: out of this dimension for just one moment. You've shared
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  Speaker 1: your entire life with us thus far, You've shared almost
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  Speaker 1: all of Garrison's life with us. And the reality is,
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  Speaker 1: though that we're so invested and a lot of us
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  Speaker 1: out here actually have real love, concern, compassion, and care
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  Speaker 1: for you, and we have our own ideas about how
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  Speaker 1: we might honor this young man as well, and it's
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: just like it is a parasocial dynamic and in and
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: of itself, it is inherently toxic in that way. But
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: at the same time, I just feel like this could
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: be handled so much better in these moments. I agree,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: And so all I will say besides everything I just did,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: is that like I noticed it, Yep. I noticed it,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: and it felt a little weird to me me too.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: It felt like something was missing, and that's because there
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: is something missing. Yes, So yeah, it's a it's a
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: it's a difficult conversation. It's very convoluted. I don't want
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: to be like critical of the family and everything. If
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: this was their choice. It's just weird. It just feels weird.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, as the viewer, yep.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: But as we're in North Carolina, the mood is pretty light,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: like Janelle's really happy to be out there. The only
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: things that are tying her are the kids that are
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: left out in Flagstaff and Coyote Pass, of course, and
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Janelle says she's very eager to get that done and
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: over with so she never has to talk to or
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: refer to Cody ever again in her life. Based and
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: then we have Christine and David Janelle, Caleb, and Maddie
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: all in the kitchen, and then I guess David's gay
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: friend who gave him the lap dance, sorry, who gave
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: him the lap dance at their wedding is also there. Yeah,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: and then this kind of prompts like some weird discussion
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: about setting up Janelle with a Mia yes, which was
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: kind of interesting.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: It was interesting. And then later they kind of talk
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: about farmers only dot com, which is only dreamaine as
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, because we continue to talk about
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: like it feels like we're dreaming all of us together.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Even Christine and David are dreaming of the same kind
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: of man for Janelle, this rough and tumble cowboy slash
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: farmer naturalist that she would love to be with. But
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: this is the segment in which we get to the
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: rock hard abs of Cody Brown, and Christine makes like
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: a little joke about it, like, well, we know what
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: kind of man you're gonna be looking on looking for
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: on the dating apps. He's got to have those rock
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: card apps, you know. And then cut to Janelle in
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: her talking head and she's like, I mean, according to
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Cody Brown, And then cut to Cody Brown on the
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: couch girl. And he doesn't make a joke out of it,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: which I totally would have, because that was a ludicrous
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: thing for you to say.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: He's dead serious.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: He's dead serious. He feels the need to clarify. He doubles,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: stonelines it, he points with arrows to it. Oh, I'm sorry.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: If I said rock hard apps, I meant washboard apps,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: as if we all haven't seen the photographs of him
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: shopping for beer at the Pigley Wiggly with his big
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: old beer gut, as if we all cannot remember him
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: out in the lip products syphilitic pond with the prairie
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: dogs with just his underwear on his big old like
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: there was never a time since we've met you, I
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: would dare say, but she would washboard as only the
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: men in my smut books on the cover. Yeah, twenty
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: three years old have washboard apps. I just can't believe it.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: He's a preposterous person.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Well, and he also wanted us to know that he
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: has buns of steel.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, why, all right, you are in.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Your fifties, my guy, wow peaked years ago.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: You are in your fifties.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: You're bald, you are baldy and no, no offense to
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: people in your fifties. But I'm just like Cody, you
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: are not twenty three.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: No, and I don't think you ever had washboard apps.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: But it really does underscore how attached to image he
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: is and how even in his own mind, he has
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: this idea of himself as being well put together and handsome.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: And Janelle only ever wanted me for this sex, Hudie.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: She only ever saw me as a piece of meat.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I can assure you on behalf of Janelle.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: It has been a long, long, long, long, long long
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: long time since she has ever seen you as a
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: piece of meat. Cody exactly well.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: And he also said he couldn't be a person, like
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: a vulnerable person with Janelle. So that was like the
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: other part of it, which I thought was really interesting,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, what are you talking about.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I feel like with.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Janelle, you guys had a sweet relationship. You said that
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: a lot in the earlier seasons. We could kind of
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: see the chemistry with you guys, yes, And you guys
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: would talk and you were very companionable. Like I don't
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: understand what you mean there. That just seems like a
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: dig And nobody sees you as a piece of meat.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not no one. I feel like it is his
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: caveman attempt to kind of slut shame her because I
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: do think that there was a period of time probably
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: approximate to when he's saying this. So again, this takes
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: us back to the cul de Sac in Vegas, when
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: we're talking about a sexual renaissance. There was a period
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: of time where maybe Janelle was very interested in connecting
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: with him in that way and maybe pursued him in
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: that way, maybe more than the other wives did. And
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: so he's still kind of hanging on to that, and
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: he's using it as some kind of a to shame
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: her for like having a healthy sex drive and wanting
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: to be with her husband, which I think he probably
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: also did with Christine as well. So like he's just
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: a piece of crap all the way around every day
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: and twice on Sundays, he can't say a nice thing
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: about any of these women to save his life, These
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: women who gave him absolutely everything that he has, These
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: women who paid into funneled their resources into the LLC
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: that I allege he stole from in my opinion, and
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: so did Robin so she could buy Etsy doll Yeah,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: at sixty thousand dollars a year, and you don't have
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: one nice thing, not even one nice thing you could
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: say about Janelle, who, by the way, sidebar side bar,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: looks beautiful.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Of course she does.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Looks beautiful, like you can just tell when someone has
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: walked away from a truly toxic and poisonous relationship, like
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: something shifts in their energy. She looks ethereal, she looks lighter,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: she's wearing like different colors. She just looks so good
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: and I'm so happy for her. Me too, she got
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: rid of him.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Honestly, all three of the OG wives are
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: looking great. I mean, like Mary lost all of her
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: way yea. Christine is also glowing because you know, David's
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: eating that bucks.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I hope so for her face.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: And they're all like so much happier, like when we
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: just got out of the Rewinds. I'm like watching season nineteen,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I'm like, dang, these women look better than they did
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: twelve years ago. And season six it's crazy what the
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: codification does. Tease, yes, and then you look at Robin, who, like,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I know, I said she looked better in these interstitials
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: at the beginning of.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: This better for her over the last few years.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but like earlier season Robin and season nineteen Robin,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: two different people.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: In yeah, well even season eighteen Robin seventeen Robin eyebrows
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: versus this Robin. I mean, Sam pic someth's going on.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Something's happening over there for a couple of these wives.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: But yeah, and she's trying a little harder with the
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: ming h. Yeah, we've got some lashes that are trying
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: to emerge.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: The curls are tightening.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: So I think she's hearing the feedback, and I think
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: she sends it to it. And I think she looks fine.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I mean she looks dour. I mean, yeah, she looks sour.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: She looks like a bummer if a bummer were a person.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: But I mean nice lashes. I guess, I guess.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I guess who pay for those?
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Though, well I thought it was Miss Scara, but I'm
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: old school. People are so in those in now right.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, those are fake lashes flash texts. Yeah, those
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: are fake lashes for the show.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: They don't look good. Oh no, sorry, maybe they do.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: But then we have everybody heading to Janelle and Maddie's
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: property that they just bought It's one hundred and sixty
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: five acres of completely rugged land, undeveloped rawland. And I
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: was looking at that and I was like so intimidated,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: were you Yeah, I'm just like I could not imagine
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: like developing that. And I'm totally on the side of
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: like Christine and Mary when they're like I would never
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: find like Janelle. But I am so happy for her
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: because you can tell she is so invigorated by this.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: She's like so excited, Like she's like, I know, it's
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: going to be a lot of work. It's going to
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: be several years. We have to do a lot of permitting,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: we have to chop down all of these trees, and
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: a lot of landscaping and all this stuff. But I'm
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: so excited. It's gonna be really great. But she did
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: say something that made me a little nervous because she said, financially,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: everything is riding on this farm to be successful.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: That scares me. It scares me a lot, quite a lot,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: especially since last week you told us that their permits
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: didn't come through, or else they didn't get them or
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: something spung on with like the regulation aspect of it.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: And now Caleb's growing trees behind his home or something
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: It was kind of giving with Janelle, like the fervent
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: energy that she had, that sort of almost manic energy
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: to get out on Coyote Pass and have like a
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: casita or something and getting the blueprints together and nobody
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: else is yeah, like co signing any of this, and
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: she was just almost desperate to make it happen, and
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it did not happen
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: for her. And so I'm just hoping that and trusting
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: that she's learned from some of these mistakes that she's
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: not putting all of her eggs in one basket. I
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: think she is, though you think she's I mean.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Really yeah, I mean she said, financially everything is riding
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: on us.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I'm worried. And she did just release on Instagram like
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: photos of them clearing the plot for her home, which
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: is going to be a fifty by fifty home, which
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I looked it up on my calculator. That's a twenty
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: five hundred square foot Oh, it's going to have like
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: a wrap around port. But like it feels to me
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: like once Coyote Pass was fund like sold and then
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: funded to everybody got their payout. Then she started maybe
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: moving on the home. I'm not sure if that is
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: what happened, but maybe she needed that money, that injection
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: of CA maybe in order to do If it's like
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: that though, like if it's like that, if it's tight
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: like that, like I'm waiting for the Coyote Pass money
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: in order to start just breaking land on this home,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: then it is a little nerve wracking. However, the silver
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: lining here is I think how established Maddie and Kayleb
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: bar yes, and I don't think they're going to be
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: getting rid of their home anytime soon. I think that
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Janelle will always have a garage apartment if she wants it.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I just hope it works for her.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I'm a little nervous me too, And I mean, Cody's
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: not involved in this vendurin at all, so like they
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: might actually be able to get stuff done and like
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: actually develop the land like Janelle had wanted to do
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: on Coyote Pass. So I'm really hoping that everything works
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: out the best for her and she develops her farm
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: and she has a very successful tree farm or whatever. Right,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: but that comment made me a little nervous.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Did you hear Maddie's comment in the minivan when they
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: were driving, or Christine and her were kind of sitting
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: next to each other, and Christine like, well, at least
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: you guys are going to be developing your land like
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: we had Coyote Pass and we never were able to
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: develop it. And Maddie says something like, yeah, well, Cody
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Brown says things, but he doesn't really do things.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: That was get him shaking shang knife and the kidknife,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: and he's gonna hear that. He's gonna be so mad
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: because in his mind he feels like he has accomplished
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: so much based on his station in life. He doesn't
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: understand that it was all these women who gave that
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: to him.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Yep. And I think that that was also around the
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: same time where Christine had made the comment of like, yeah,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I learned quite late that if I waited for Cody,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I would never get anything done. But Janelle was always
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: super independent and apparently during their marriage she would just
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: go and take like girls' trip solo by herself. She'd
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: be like peas out going Candy Bay.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: That's why we never saw that though, I know right, yeah,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: like we are currently during doing a rewind. We were
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: in season six but I mean, maybe we'll see it
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: in the coming seasons, but like I don't remember that,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: and like I would have loved to see her actually
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: taking that initiative and doing that right, But that's just
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: another thing I think that she probably hid from the viewers.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Probably she seems like a very private person, like she
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: just wants to keep her own stuff. Yeah, like she'll
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: show what she wants us to see, but other than that,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: we don't see anything else. So I was very surprised
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: to hear that.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: And then we have up in Pairwan got Mary and
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: her lesbian lover Jen.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but they are.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Talking some smack a little bit about Robin em Burrow,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: and you.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Know that this whole scene is just set up so
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: that they can have this conversation, and that Jen is
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: just waiting, Hanny, She's just champing at the bit. She
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: can't wait to start talking about Robin. And so as
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: soon as Mary walks in, she's like, did you get
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: my email? Like, Mary's like, what email? And she's like, wow,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: that guy wrote back the guy who wrote before, because
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: apparently he's ordered something from my sister wive's closet and
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: never received the actual merchandise, and so he reached out
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: via the website, no response, and so he took it
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: upon himself to reach out to Mary, and so Mary
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: took a screenshot, sent it to Robin and said, hey,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: this is your bum ass shit. Can you please take
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: care of this? But apparently she has it, and this
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: person has reached out to Jenna's second time, and they're like,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: what are we gonna do about it? And then we
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: have that little thing with Robin all uncomfortable in her
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: talking head talking about my Sister Wives closet.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and how it's put a pause for right now,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: as if it's going to get restarted right like you're
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: not gonna do crap with this, like, so miss me
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: with that, but it's all pause. And apparently some people
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: sneak orders in.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Right as if it's the customer's fault. Yeah, knock on
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: to the website and they prowled around looking at all
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: of their Sister Wives wares and purchased and had the
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: audacity to send me money that I did not refund. Yeah,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: did I fulfill their orders? How dare they? And that's
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: what's crazy.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: I'm like, is it going into Robin's account or does
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: it go into like some family joint account that nobody's.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Robin's account, right, Robin's account.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: But like, how did nobody notice this until the customer
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: had to reach out and be like, I ordered this
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: six months ago, where's my chunky, ugly bracelet?
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: But I thought that was great. Here's like I screenshot
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: it and sent it to Robin. I'm not dealing with.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: It, right, Yeah, But I mean just wild that she's
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: still stealing money from people after all these years. She's
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: nothing if not consistent.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Robin, of course, and then this kind of opens up
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: the conversation for Jen and Mary to talk about Mary's
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: relationship with Robin or lack thereof, and Jen kind of
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: just gets right into it and says that Robin was
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: never really a good friend to Mary. She would talk
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: behind her back, she would hurt her feelings, and she just,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know, just would make crap up. And this
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: is where Mary starts opening up about COVID specifically, was like,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: seems like that was the I don't want to say catalyst.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Well, the clarifying time in Mary's life where like Mary
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: says that she was following all of those I dare say,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: ridiculous rules that Cody and Robin had for the entire family,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: but that they didn't follow themselves, because they ended up
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: bringing COVID into their home visa either housekeeper or maid
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: or nanny or whatever. But Mary sitting there in her
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: big rental with like a playground in the back that
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Salinari could come over and play on, which she said,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's implying that she actually got that property
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: so that the kids could come over and hang out
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: with her. Yeah, And it sounds like her and Robin
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: had discussed when they moved to flag Staff that they
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: would be hanging out, and so Mary had this existing
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: and a live expectation that she would be called mingling
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: her life with these folks, and it sounds like they
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: gave her an assurance that that would be the case.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: And then she gets to Flagstaff and like during all
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: of COVID, she's alone, nobody's there, nobody's coming to visit,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: least of all Robin. And what they're getting to the
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: heart of I think is that Robin likes to talk
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: a good game on camera and talk about how close
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: we are, and she's may for him, but when push
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: comes to shove, she just left her in the dust. Yeah,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: it's actually really really sad.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: It's really messed up because Mary we've talked about before,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: is very very loyal, and she was very loyal to
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: not only Cody, but to Robin and was friends with
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Robin for all of these seasons, and then COVID hits
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Mary follows all the rules and Robin ghosts her, like
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: not only doesn't like doesn't tell her like, oh, you
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: can't come over, totally ghosts her, doesn't talk to her
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: at all. And then Robin's justification for this and her
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: interstitial is just like, well, our schedules just like couldn't
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: line up, and like we both really wanted to hang out,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: but like it just didn't work out that way.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Sorry, Like I had five kids, I had to homeschool,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: and then the year after that, Mary was traveling so much.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: So I just know that we really wanted to but
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: it just didn't work out, like you said, And I'm
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: just like, God, Robin, ever, do you hear yourself talking?
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: And how is she going to feel when she actually
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: watches this back and sees Mary start to call out
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: some of this behavior. And we even kind of touch
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: upon when Mary is leaving flag Staff and Cody and
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Nate are over helping her to pack and here comes sour.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Rob God with the junk journal.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: With her junk journal, like, and the cameras are there though,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: so here comes Robin to say goodbye. But like, did
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: she help actually pack up? Was she part of the
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: moving process? Absolutely not. She only came for her time
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: on camera. So yes, call this out.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: And that was so good that Jen brought that up.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: She like literally tells Mary, if Nate and Cody and
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: the cameras weren't there, Robin would not have showed up.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: And Mary and her interstitials like, yeah, I wasn't even
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: expecting her to show up. I didn't know. I didn't realize.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: She was so sad. And then Jen and Mary kind
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: of make fun of the junk Journal just a little bit.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: They don't like outwardly say.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: It, but Jenn's like, it's fabulous, your fabulous gift.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: And Mary laughs about it. Right, I'm like, yay, more
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: of this, please, Yes, more of this mean girl energy.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I want it. And then Mary talks about how there's
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: been a divide between her and Robin that has grown
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: over the last few years, especially during COVID. That was
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: definitely like the thing the straw that broke the camel's back, really,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: And this is where Mary started questioning how close her
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: and Robin actually were. And she's kind of grieving this
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: relationship that she thought she had with Robin, but she
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: doesn't even know if it was genuine. And I just
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: want more. I want Mary say more about that.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but even in these moments, she's still kind of
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: covering for Robin. She's like, I don't think she did
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: anything maliciously. I'm like, really, Mary, you don't think she
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: knew full well that you were alone in your home
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: during a worldwide pandemic, probably very afraid and also lonely.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: And I think her dog died during those years as well. Yes,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: she has a dog, and I think the dog dies.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: And you know, Leon, I think at the time was
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: in Chicago and then they moved somewhere else. I don't know. Yeah,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: but like Mary's alone, and you could have been there
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: for her. You could have been a friend, even if
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: you just text it, even if you just call. But
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: the way it sounds is like crickets, Like Robin's not
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: even calling to check in at all. And then of
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: course we had like Christmas and various holidays like Isabelle's
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: in town and Mary would love to see Isabelle, but
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: nobody tells Mary.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: It's just like so bad, It's really bad. And this
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: out multiple times. She's like, you know, she would act
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: like your best friend but then not talk to you
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: at all, and she would hurt your feelings and that
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: was totally messed up. And it's weird how both Jen
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: and Mary are very quick to say that Robin wasn't
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: intentionally manipulative. They actually put the onus more on Cody,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: that Cody became obsessed with Robin and her Diesel jeans,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: and Mary calls Robin his shiny new toy, which was interesting,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: but they don't elaborate more on.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: That, right, I mean, there is some good information coming through,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: like apparently there was a conversation. It feels a little
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: bit like Robin initiated it, like hey, next time you're
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: in Flagstaff, you want to hook up, we can get
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: some coffee or something. And Mary very directly says, well,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to be friends with my ex
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: husband's wife, yeah, which shocks Robin, like she's like, what
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: are you talking about? Like being in a sister wives
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: relationship is way more difficult. Than just having a friendship
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: with me. But is it the Are you sure.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Something like that, especially to freaking Mary, who was like
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: begging basically for Cody to stay married to her and
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: love her, and.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Begging to be able to come over and see the kids. Yeah,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: the kids come over and hang out with her, even
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: if it's outside during COVID begging.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: But sister wife relationship is harder than being friends with
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: your husband's favorite wife that he chose over everybody else,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: not only just the OG wives, but all of his
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: other OG children. Yeah, it's like crazy that Robin even
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: said that. But apparently Robin.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Was very hurt. Yeah, very surprised and disappointed.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: And then she makes a little dig to Mary, saying, well,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: but I heard through the Great Vine that Mary was
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: talking bad about me and bashing me publicly with her friends,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: to her friends, and so like, I don't know what
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: to do that, Like, that's clear to me that she
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: doesn't want to have a relationship with me. So I'm
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: just gonna have to deal with that.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: And so I'm wondering what she's referring to here. I
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: would really love to know when these talking heads are
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: being filmed, I'm wondering if like she's one of us,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: if she's in the dumpster with us when Mary and
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Jen go live Friday with friends, and if she's like
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: got some sort of a stock account and she's she's
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: following those two and listening to every single thing that
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: they've said, and maybe she's heard some of the things
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: that Jenn has said. Is this filmed after like all
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: of these other scenes with Mary and her random friends
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: in Utah and things. I guess she's seen some of
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: this footage. Has production like clued her in on some
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: of the things that are being said, or is this
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: just stuff that she's picking up because she's following it
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: on social media? What do we think?
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I don't know. It might be a
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: bit of both. But let us know your theories below
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: in the comments. But I thought that was kind of interesting.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, so you're listening.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's your Definitely, she's definitely listening. I think
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: that the most interesting thing was that Mary said that
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: it would kind of take a lot for them to
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: get their friendship back to a good place. Like there's
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of anger, there's a lot of sadness, and
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of grief that they would have to
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: work through. And I'm like, talk more about that anger though, yeah,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: talk more about the feminist rage. That's what I want
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: to hear about. But like, there are things that they
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: would have to work through that I do not think
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Robin personally. I don't think Robin is capable of it.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: And she even says I don't think Robin would would
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: be able to hear and like witness what it is
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: that I have to say. And I don't know that
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: she would be honest with me, which is really saying
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I think Robin would probably lie to me.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Yep. And I'm like, yes, yes, finally Mary is awakening. Yes,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: give me more of this, break your nda. I don't
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: care talk crap about this. I want to know what
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: the kinds of things you want to say to Robin are, Like,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: please tell us, please give us the deeps.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: But she has to do it in this kind of sideways,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: of course manner in which she has these conversations and
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: she allows people like Jen to take the lead and
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: say the things that she wants to say, but like
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: she doesn't have the courage yet to say. And this
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: is the part of the healing process, healing process that
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I really need her to move through so she can
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: get to the feminine rage part in which she's calling
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: all these people in the carpet. That's what I want
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: to get to expedite it.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, jeez, But nonetheless it was still a very interesting conversation.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Indeed, more of that, more of that.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Her engine, I want more of that. I want more
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: e gent I like her, I do as well. And then, last,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: but not least, we have Cody and Robbie and flag
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Stack and we talk about Aurora's watering trough course baptism
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: because it trot it was.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I actually went to the website for her church. I've
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: already forgotten the name of it. It's like Nighted or
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: something Urban Hope Church or something in Flagstaff, and I
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: like looked all because I wanted to know who they're
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: affiliated with. I wanted to know if they were in
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Assemblies of God or like, who are they like denominationally speaking?
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: But I was not able to sess that out from
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: the endless verbiage found on their about page. I'm like, okay,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: what do you get a butt? What are you affiliated with?
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know, But like right on the front page
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: was a picture, Oh no, no, on the Google search was
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: a picture of the trough.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Stop it.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like multiple pictures that people had uploaded of the
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: trough where people got baptized, which I mean, I get it.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Not everybody can be born and raised in Hawaii and
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: get like baptized in the beach. Yeah, on a beautiful
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: day in your bikini. I mean, but I'm sure it
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: was a lovely moment for Aurora.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it was. But like I literally I could
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: care less.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care about it, not at all. I
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: don't care about everybody talking about their own baptists.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Care about Aurora. I'm sorry. You seem lovely, but I
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: don't care.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: I care about her at all.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: You seem really happy about Jesus and everything, and I'm
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: happy for you, but I don't care. That's because your
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: mother and father set it up in such a way
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: that we really never got to know you exactly, and
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: we really never got to spend any time with you,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden in season nineteen, I'm gonna
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: start trotting you out in some sort of a pr
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: campaign to get us to like them, and has nothing
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: to even do with you. I'm not invested in your
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: faith journey. I don't care yep. And they're so simpering,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: just a timid and oh I just please again some
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: feminine rage, like break out of the cycle of abuse
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: and religious abuse. I Handmaid's Tale vibes and stream up.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, move out of your creepy parents' house already,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: and like live your own life and wake up to
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: the fact that your parents are demons.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're awful people. I mean, you're going to church,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: but you can't recognize a demon. Oh, you're wrestling against
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: principalities and powers. I live in your house. You can
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: call this coming.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Get out. And I was like, I was feeling so
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: bitter seeing the photos of Cody with Aurora during the
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: baptism and like whispering in her ear and like smiling
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: like he's this proud dad. I'm like, you can't even
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: see your other kids, the other kids that you raised,
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: that you brought into this world, that didn't ask.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: You to see them. He won't see them, No, I
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: literally I know. But I mean I'm just pedantic, like
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: he doesn't even care about them, but he's willing to
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: show up to Aurora's weird ass trough baptism, right, and
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: he's And this is after we just had a season
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: of him questioning his face, questioning his relationship with God,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: and not believing anymore in his prior religion. And yet
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: he's telling us that as he's who, I don't know
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: why he's there baptizing Aurora, Like why you're not a
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: part of this church. You're not a part of this faith.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: You're in a totally different religion. But you're there, and
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: as you are baptizing her, you're whispering in her ear
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: like your your au B Mormon baptism doctrine words, Like
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: you're not even there for her process. You're still there
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: to push your own bs on this girl. It's all
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: about you, Cody, huh. At the end of the day,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: of course it is.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: And this was again like a total PR stunt for
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: him to try and rehab his image, like fucking Tom
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Sandoval on VPR, like him being like, look, I'm a
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: really good dad in present and I pray for my
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: daughter's baptism. But it's like, what about your other kids
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: in flag stuff that you don't even talk to. You
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: couldn't even wish Savannah a happy birthday.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: You didn't even talk to Savannah for months after you
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: fought with her mother at Christmas.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Like, what the heck? I just I hated this so much.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: I just don't like it. And sidebar because you sent
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: me a post on Reddit from I think it was
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: today in which people were talking about the baptism. Yeah,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: and somebody actually went to the church's instagram. It looked
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: like it was an Instagram post in which they're featuring
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Aurora in her baptism. They're doing it because they're talking
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: about like, come on in to be baptized. So two
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: for one say, oh Jesus is right here. Yeah, that's awesome.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: But they're like talking about baptizing and they've got a
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: picture of Aurora and it is dated April, like I
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: think twentieth twenty thirty twenty, so something like that, late
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: April twenty two four. That doesn't mean that she got
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: baptized that week. It doesn't mean she got baptized that month,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: but it does seem to imply that that's around the
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: time that it happened. And so people out there, at
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: least on Reddit right now are kind of having this
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: issue with the fact that Garrison passed early March. If
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: you recall, we have that scene with Aurora and Cody
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: and Robin in their kitchen in the McMansion, where Aurora
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: broaches the subject of getting baptized, and we have Easter
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: stuff out and about Easter, which happened after Garrison passed,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: and they're pretending there's, you know, this wonderful moment in
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: the family about Aurora's baptism, and we're not even addressing
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: what has actually just happened, this monumental, catastrophic thing that
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: has just happened in the entire family. You would think
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: that that would be pre eminent in their mind and
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: in their consciousness. But now we're gonna pretend that we're
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: so happy for Aurora. And around that time, it does
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: seem that Aurora went out and got her baptism and
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Cody participated in it.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: While which is fine, but I mean, like, while your
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: entire family is so shell shocked over the passing of
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: their beloved child and sibling, and this is what you're
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: out here doing. This is what you're out here promoting
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: with your other family. It was just like, I'm of
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: two minds. I want Aurora to have a dad. I
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: want Aurora to have a baptism. I want Aurora to
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: have a faith. That's great. I love that for you,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: although I don't care about you at all. At the
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: same time, this very moment in the family, people are
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: stricken with grief, and why are we focusing on this?
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: And why are we making a storyline now for the show?
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: And I think on that Reddit post there were a
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: couple of people commenting about how this storyline was used
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: probably as filler for all of the Garrison footage that
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: they got rid of, and so that's why we're like
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: kind of seeing this, and that's why we have the
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: family celebration dinner at Josephine's Bistro, which apparently was in.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: June four photographs of them wearing those same outfits out
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: at Josephine's that was taken by some raccoon out there
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: with the monocle and a cameraut June of twenty twenty fours.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: So they're pretending once again, they're performing. They're pretending that
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: this has happened right after Auro's baptism. So all of
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: y'all are lying already in the premise, you're all lying here, yep,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: or or even you and Brianna, even you taking your
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: jobs and all that. But it's just like the entire
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: thing sickens me. These people are gross ass people who
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: have no souls yep, their soulless zombie ghouls.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: And it's just so annoying to watch, Like as a
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: kid of divorce, Like, my perspective on this is like
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Cody's acting like a divorced dad. Like he divorces from
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: his other wives, and he already did this many years ago.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: But like he divorced from his other wives, he finds
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: a new woman, his soul meet. He's got this new family,
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: and he just like completely forgets and disregards his old
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: family that he created.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: And I think he loved I think he loved those kids.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Of course he did, yeah, but he just completely forgets
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: about it. And like this is my own perspective, So
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: don't come for me. If you had a divorced dad
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: that was like nice or whatever, I did it and
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: your daughter didn't either. Unfortunately, like the divorced dads that
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: we've experienced literally just forgot about their previous family. And
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: it's really unfortunate. And that's what is watching all of
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: this that like Cody just doesn't even regard as other family.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: It's not even a blip. On the radar.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: It's he's already got his family, he's got his other kids,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: he's got his soulmate.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: He's got his soulmate, and that's it, right, And.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Like we're at Josephine's bistro or whatever, and we're having
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: this like wholesome conversation with a family, but it's so gross.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: We start talking about soulmates for some reason.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Well, we start talking about Aurora's baptism and she I'm
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: sure she believed that maybe she could talk about herself
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: for a little while and people would be but it's
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: actually just this layup for them to be able to
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: talk about their relationship. And he's talking about other pivotal
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: moments in her life that'll be just as great as
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: getting married to Jesus in the draw and it's either her. Yeah,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: she mentions marriage, like my marriage day will also be
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: one of the most important days in my life. And
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: then Brianna says something snide.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Something scripted, being like, well, yeah, like, we're so lucky
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: to have been raised by you two, because you guys
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: raised us to marry our soulmates and we would be
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: fools not to do.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: But she's saying it in such an exaggerated way that
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: you know, she's in my opinion, she's taking a dig
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: at Christine who complained about the fact that Robin and
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Cody were soulmates.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Yep. And then we have this conversation with Cody and
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Robin about the meaning of soulmates, and Cody's like, well, yeah,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize that Robin was my soulmate when I
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: married her, and I never thought of her as my
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: soulmate until later. Whereas Robin in season one or whatever
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: episode where's he's he's my soul mate. And this was
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: kind of interesting because Robin brings this up and says
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: that that was actually an unfair comment for her to make,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: and she didn't realize it at the time because she
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: had never been in a polygamist marriage before, and now
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: she realized.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: In fast I know allegedly, although you'll mom was just
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: a mistress who saw her husband all the week, is
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: did the first wife even know about your ba ba exactly?
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: So I thought that was an interesting admission, kind.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Of a very roundabout way to actually approach the idea
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: of an approximation of taking accountability for something as she did.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Because Janelle goes on to say and Of course, Christine
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: goes on to say, like, it's just not something you
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: say or do in a polygamous family structure, because that's
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: going to obviously imply that the other women don't have
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: that kind of a relationship with the husband, and that's
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: gonna make people feel bad.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, And so Robin tells that to Cody. Cody was like,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: I guess flattered that she considered him her soulmate and
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: then now he considers her his soulmate, and I don't care.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Maybe have some weird interstitial about how they're so in
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: love and the kids watch them and are all goo
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: goo google about Okay, god.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: You all sound real weird. Your vampire children are vampiring,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: They're weird.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: I'm like, read the room, bro, Like, you just have
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: three divorces with these women talking about how you didn't
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: care about them, didn't love them, You have the loss
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: of your child, you don't talk to your other kids,
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: and you're talking about how you're a fool for Robin.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Nobody cares, No one likes you.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: It's so tone deaf, it's so inappropriate. It really they
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: don't understand. I just feel like they think they're cooking
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: out here. Oh they like Oh my god, they're gonna
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: love this. They're gonna love this whole baptism thing. And
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: they're really gonna see Cody. Hell, like you showed up
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: for her on the trough that day, was such a
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: good You're there that day and you were like really
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: a good dad. Yeah to Aurora, and like you love
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: me so much. And the kids even see it. Just
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: say that though, yeah, tell them that. The kids are
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: always looking and they just adorus and this is such
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: a happy family. If they see that, they'll believe that
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: exact And it's just the exact opposite that ends up
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: happening time and time again. It's these scripted, stupid, performed
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: conversations that everybody can see right through. And if they
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: only told the truth, right, if they simply told the truth, like,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: we'd have much more respect for all of them. And
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: the sad thing is that they're roping their dumb kids
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: into it. And I'm staking of the adults. I'm not
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: talking about Slinari. They're adorable, but like these adult other women,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: thank God, Dayton's not. Why wouldn't Dayton be there on
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: the day of Hurricane Sinierra slash Baptist Like you would
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: think Dayton would be there, but he's nowhere to be
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: fine found furthering our conspiracy and our idea that he
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: has just been like, I gotta go. I cannot associate
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: with you dregs of humanity anymore.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: I know. I want him to end up like Colin
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Goslin and start doing these e news interviews with.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: People and little please please choose to see please please.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, come on, I need some of these kids
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: to start spilling stuff. Yes, And then after the whole
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Soulmate talk, I'm barfing in my mouth and the Mazzonory
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Robin also makes a comment about how the reason why
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: they all broke up as a family was everyone was
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: too focused on their jealousy and in it for themselves
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: and didn't have God involved enough in their relationships. And
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: I thought that that was her telling on herself. Yes,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: because she was involved in herself. She didn't care about
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: none of these other last She didn't care about none of.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: These other kids.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: She just cared about Pagan Cody, That's all she cares. Yeah,
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: And then she talks about how her and Cody worked
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: really hard to make sure their relationship survived and they're
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: very proud that it survived. All of these divorces because
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: apparently Cody was a moody butthole.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Can we just talk for a moment about the languaging
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: of that, Yeah, and the fact that she's using the
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: term survive after we've just had the passing of our
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: beloved Garrison and you're talking about surviving, Like, what are
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: you the devastation that you yourself wrought and brought and
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: visited upon this entire family and you're a survivor? Like, please,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: I can't. It's enraging. Yeah, I'm filled with rage and
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: hate and vich real and it's not a godly moment.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: I like, I have to stop, I have to pray
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: a little, I've got to reset, I've got to get
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: myself together because these aren't real people. They're not in
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: my actual life. But when I tell you my blood
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: pressure because my jugular bitch just protruding, there's that fucking
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: fain on my temple, and I'm just like, if I could,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: like of fight these people, Oh my god, if I
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: fight these people, I would.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: They need to be punched a little bit.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Sorry, Sometimes that's all it takes. Ye Just knock somebody
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: needs to get just knock him out for reel. Uh.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: I just hate them so much.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: We don't advocate for violence, really.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Except for Cody and Robin.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: No, no, we're in a dumpster. We're trashy.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Robin makes a comment at the very end,
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: this is how the episode ends, about how she doesn't
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: know if she could live polygamy again, which I'm like,
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: for the last twenty freaking episodes, you've been saying that
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: you only wanted to live polygamy was your dream. You
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: were crying Coyote Pass. Now you're saying now you're saying
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: you don't know if you could live it again.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Girl, I deeply dislike her.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: I hate her so much, do not prefer her.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: I really am so bad as a person. You're just
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: failing hardcore.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Yep, And we have the preview for next week. We
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: have Christine. It's her first Valentine's Day since being married.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: So do we think this is Valentine's twenty twenty four?
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know this is Valentine's twenty twenty five, because
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: her first Valentine's would have been twenty twenty four, So
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: that means we're jumping going back back in the timeline. Yeah,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: like before the baptism and like right after Janelle laughed
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: like a girl. I don't know, make it makes sense.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: I literally can't keep anything straight anymore. And then we
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: have Mary and Janelle talking about Coyote Pass and apparently
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: Mary is afraid of the raf okayoty all right about
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: like suing for what you're you're shared, your fair share.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Your fair share, but like she doesn't want to. I
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: guess upset this men and rock the boat and Schamelle's like,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: he can't do anything to you. This man has no
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: power in your life anymore. Why don't you worth the up?
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I heard it somewhere. Maybe you should
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: try it. Maybe you should try you're wearing the shirt
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: after it gosh for really?
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then we have Robin, who is fake concerned
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: about Cody and if only one wife is going to
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: be enough for him?
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Sure?
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: And I think she asks him that in the attic
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: of Justpine's pistra and Cody's like, that's a lot of questions.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: We already know his answer. And once again, these are
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: superfluous scenes. We do not need scenes with these people
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: who already heard all of the things. Please get them
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: off of my televisy yo.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: I literally don't care unless they start admitting to their
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: bull crabs and their crimes.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but they're not glad, No, they are not.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: But anyway, there were some juicy bits in this. Yeah,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: and I did. I mean, when I was not raging,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: I was enjoyed. I love I want to. I'm traveling
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: to Louisiana and then North Carolina with my girl Janelle
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: looking ethereal in pinks, wear more pinks. It's so pretty
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: of it. Yes, And I'm loving Christine being happy and Mary,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: you know, like thinking about ending up with somebody, yes,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: like and sharing her life with someone like. I love that.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: But I don't need any of the other stuff, like
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: we never need to go back to flag stuff.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: No ever, fire them, let them go bankrupt. I don't care.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: M Can you imagine if they got the proverbial pink
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: slip like that that communication that comes in from Bravo
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: with some of these housewives who get let go after
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: the reunion, and they make some posts on social media
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: like I've chosen to leave the franchise because I've got
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: other chapters that I've went to write, but you got fired,
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: and I.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: Would love I would love it.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: So if we had a little bit of that for Cocond,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: what would they do?
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: They would be so screwed.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: And I'm not just saying it, Beatrice, I don't think
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: we need them. No, we can just refer to them
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: and show like the articles and then talk about it
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: that way. Bring back Tamaron Hall. Did you see any
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: of the interview with Mary and Tamren Hall.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, it was pretty good. Did you watch it?
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: I watched some of them.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Like. There was obviously a lot of breadcrumbing from Mary,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: because that's what she's good at. Right. There were some
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: juicy things because apparently Tameron told Mary and all of
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: us that she was a little butt hurt that she
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: got ousted from the tell Alls and she didn't understand why.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: And Mary kind of alludes to how some of the
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: family members aka Cody and Robin, were upset with Tameron's
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: line of questioning and how she would press them on
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: some of the tougher subjects and some of their bs.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: And everything, trying to hold them accountable for things that
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: we had actually seen with our own raccoon eyes. Yeah,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Cody didn't like it. And essentially Cody is the one
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: that got Tarmareron fire, Yeah, which is crazy, which we
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: already knew, of course, but thank you for confirming that. Yeah,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: he cannot handle it. And so that's why we have
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: a Sukiana su Kanya I always do that asu Kanya
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: or Suki who is so like careful with how she's
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: approaching these conversations, particularly with Cody and Robin, because she
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: knows he's going to have a toddler tantrum pamper problem
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: with her if she presses too much, so she cannot.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: And this is why we need to kick them off
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: the show.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, if you can't handle he, get out of
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: the e F and kitchen, honestly, like, this is the show.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: We saw what we saw, and now address it. And
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: if you don't want to GTFO and furthermore, get you
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: all in a room so you can all talk to
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: each other. So as soon as you lie, which is
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: what you always you don't do anything but lie, then
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: you've got Janelle over here, you got Mary over here,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: you got Christine over here saying actually, yeah, that's not
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: how that happened. But yeah, So some of the stuff
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: that came out during that conversation with Tameron was was good.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: We need more, we need.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: More, and Mary, the Queen of breadcrumbs and over it.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want her to give me the full
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: freaking loaf.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: I'm starving.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're wasting away. I'm very worried about you. I
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: also know that was it Ethel who sent you the
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: astrological signs of the Wives. Okay, let's save that for Patreons.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: So let's conclude. Now, let's wrap this up, and then
• 1:02:22
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• 1:02:25
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• 1:02:28
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• 1:02:33
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• 1:02:36
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• 1:02:38
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• 1:02:48
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• 1:02:50
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• 1:02:53
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• 1:02:56
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• 1:02:58
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• 1:03:00
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• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: we are going next week we are going to be
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: talking about poly family. We're not going to be covering
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: the actual episode though, the first episode we're going to
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: be a week late for a little while, but we
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: are going to like just talk about the couple's first impressions,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: fake psychic predictions, and we'll introduce everybody to what's going
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: on with these folks. Yeah, and then we're gonna start
• 1:03:25
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• 1:03:28
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• 1:03:30
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• 1:03:32
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• 1:03:35
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• 1:03:38
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