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Bloomberg's Nizza on Trump Reversing Muslim Ban Stance (Audio) · Bloomberg Intelligence

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  Speaker 1: Well, let's look at politics now. Uh. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a hurricane, but we're waiting for some
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  Speaker 1: kind of storm of debate this weekend. Uh. And of
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  Speaker 1: course there's an earlier storm this week for Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 1: as his vice presidential running mate said that Mr Trump
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  Speaker 1: no longer wants to impose a temporary ban on Muslim
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  Speaker 1: immigration United States. Mike Meets is back executive editor for
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  Speaker 1: Bloomberg Politics, So let's start with that story. What's going
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  Speaker 1: on Mike there? So this is, uh, this is kind
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  Speaker 1: of a case study and how Trump has kind of
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  Speaker 1: carried on his candidacy for a long time. He Um,
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  Speaker 1: He's He's struck a lot of different positions, but the
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  Speaker 1: one that was the most popular on this issue was
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  Speaker 1: the emphatic Muslim ban that he announced last December that
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  Speaker 1: powered from through the primaries. UM. I think something like
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  Speaker 1: a majority of Republican voters in New New Hampshire and
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  Speaker 1: other states agreed with the band and backed him for
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  Speaker 1: the nomination, and then he started backing off of it
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  Speaker 1: as he got closer to uh, the actual Republican convention. UM.
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  Speaker 1: Even Mike Pence, who before he was the vice presidential
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  Speaker 1: nominee UH said that this would be unconstitutional, and so
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  Speaker 1: they shifted to another UH position, but never really disabowed
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  Speaker 1: disavowed the old one. So Trump never said a Muslim
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  Speaker 1: band is wrong and unconstitutional. I'd like to do this instead.
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  Speaker 1: Now to this morning, Pence. UH, Pence did specifically say
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  Speaker 1: that the Muslim band was out, Um, which might be
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  Speaker 1: a surprise to a lot of his supporters. So he's
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  Speaker 1: changed his mind or we don't know exactly what it state. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well we know that Pence says Trump's changed his mind
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  Speaker 1: and UH, but Trump himself hasn't said it. And as
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  Speaker 1: you'll recall a few weeks ago with UM, when Trump
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  Speaker 1: finally acknowledged that Barack Obama was born in America, you
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  Speaker 1: could never quite know what's going on. And Trump's said
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  Speaker 1: until he says it himself. So what about lace polls
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  Speaker 1: seems like they're going from not so good too bad
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  Speaker 1: a lot of them. Yeah, So I mean this this stretch, UM,
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  Speaker 1: this bout stretch for Trump started UH two mondays ago
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  Speaker 1: with his performance at the first presidential debate. UM. It
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  Speaker 1: takes a little while for those kinds of things to
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  Speaker 1: shake out and pulls. UM. You and pulls are noisy.
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  Speaker 1: They you know, they jump up, they jump down. But
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  Speaker 1: but I think a week and a half later, you're
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  Speaker 1: starting to see his numbers across the board kind of
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  Speaker 1: settle into pretty dangerous territory for someone who's people. One
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  Speaker 1: poll stands out in your mind. Um, well, Pennsylvania has
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  Speaker 1: definitely state he has to win. It was part of
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  Speaker 1: his Rust Belt strategy. Whereas is his rhetoric came to
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  Speaker 1: at uh you know these former manufacturing uh hubs uh
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  Speaker 1: you know, would like especially in Pennsylvania, just hasn't been
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  Speaker 1: on it. And that's because it's a different state than
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the Rust Belts in terms of demography.
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  Speaker 1: But in the Monmouth poll that was out yesterday the
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  Speaker 1: day before, he was down ten points. And just to
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  Speaker 1: give you a sense of how much that as, he's
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  Speaker 1: down eleven points in New Jersey, which is just you know,
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  Speaker 1: never state that either presidential Canada campaigns. And I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned New Jersey because I wanted to bring in
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  Speaker 1: New Jersey Governor Chris Christie and his role uh in
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  Speaker 1: the debate preparation the debate, which is of course scheduled
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  Speaker 1: for Sunday evening. Sure, so Chris Christie kind of is uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's just kind of a beloved character for for journalists
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to town halls. He's held dozens of
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  Speaker 1: town halls in the run up to running for president.
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  Speaker 1: Uh you know, of course, especially in New Hampshire. He
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  Speaker 1: went up there on the weekends. You know, the national
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  Speaker 1: news cameras weren't there to watch him, staying in a
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  Speaker 1: room with fifty or a hundred supporters and just kind
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  Speaker 1: of talk as long as they had questions, and he
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  Speaker 1: just he just got really good at it. He's known
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  Speaker 1: for the New Jersey too as governor. He he's affable.
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  Speaker 1: He was a popular guy in high school and that
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  Speaker 1: kind of comes through in all these uh these town halls.
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  Speaker 1: He's just uh, he's just really good at it. And
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  Speaker 1: he's one of Trump's top advisors. And so as Trump
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  Speaker 1: sets his sights on this town hall style debate on
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday with Hillary Clinton, he's, uh, he's getting some
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  Speaker 1: advice from Chris Christie. What do you think they're telling him.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're telling him that that thing is like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: like body language matters, so that that's something that Trump
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have to think about a lot since his campaign
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  Speaker 1: is so based on on media interviews either over the
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  Speaker 1: phone or at a desk UM, or big rallies where
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  Speaker 1: he's standing behind a podium. UM. In the town hall setting,
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  Speaker 1: you're kind of walking around stage, you're talking directly to voters. You're, um,
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  Speaker 1: you're you know, you're, you're using your hands to make points.
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  Speaker 1: So there's there's a lot of ways where uh, good
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  Speaker 1: body language can get you a pretty far. Bad body
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  Speaker 1: language could lead the wrong message and um. And so
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  Speaker 1: I think that's one definite thing. The next thing is
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  Speaker 1: kind of just the art of retail politics, which is
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  Speaker 1: something that I don't think, uh, there's ever been a
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  Speaker 1: presidential nominee from a major party who has had less
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  Speaker 1: experience uh doing retail politics, just you know, shaking hands
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  Speaker 1: in a diner, um, getting to know normal voters. Uh
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  Speaker 1: and uh. And it's something that Trump kind of doesn't
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  Speaker 1: like to do. By his own admission, he said he's
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  Speaker 1: a germophobe. You know, he doesn't really on a on
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  Speaker 1: a get in there too much. UM. But those two
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  Speaker 1: things are kind of really important when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: coming across as as warm and relatable in that kind
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  Speaker 1: of setting. Well, I want to thank you very much
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  Speaker 1: Mike Nitza. He is executive editor for Bloomberg Politics. You
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  Speaker 1: can follow him on Twitter at Mike Nitze and I
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  Speaker 1: double z a. Thank you very much for illuminating. I
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  Speaker 1: guess we um have to wait until Sunday to see
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  Speaker 1: whether that debate prep pays off. If you're listening to
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