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The Biggest Quasar Ever Seen Has Quite an Appetite · Made of Stars

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Warning. The following podcast contains an entertaining look at astronomy, physics, and
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space news throughout the known universe. Listeners have been known to learn about astronomical
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phenomenon, the scientific method, and expanded vocabulary to include terms like quasar asterism
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and uranus. Listen, that's your own risk. Go ahead. When made
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of stars, made them stars, made sizes. When made of stars,
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you could be from high they would New Mexicomus, where all stars? When
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we are made of stars. I'm West Carol, joined by my good friend
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doctor Sean Cruising from Columbus State University's Coca Cola Space Science Center. Hey Sean,
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Hey, we's good to be here today. This is a big day.
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It is a big day for a lot of reasons, but one in
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particular. Well, I'm assuming that you're talking about the follow up stories that
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we had from from last week, and these are big because we're waiting and
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we record this on Thursday. As we talk about that a lot. I
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think last week we did a Wednesday show, so we were in a little
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bit early last week. But today we're doing it on Thursday as we normally
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do, and we've got we're talking about something that hasn't happened yet, because
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it's going to happen later today. So if you're not listening to it straight
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after we release it, you know, you may already know the outcome of
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what we're what we're talking about. I do want to just mention that towards
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the end of the show, it's another big show because our good friend Joey,
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who does the opener or the disclaimer, if you will, at the
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beginning of the show, he always mentions that, you know, there's some
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things we could talk about in one of those is quasars, and we have
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a Quasar story, and it's a big one. It's a it's a massive,
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epic quasar story. I would say, yes, this isn't this isn't
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your garden variety, you know, made of Stars Thursday quaisar story. This
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is something that's truly special. This is huge. So we'll get to the
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Quasar story coming up a little bit later in the show. Let's start with
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follow up stories from last week, because or the last couple of weeks,
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because we've been talking about these for a little bit. Intuitive Machines, we've
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been talking about this mission really into last year. Maybe EMUs farback is November
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October, because all this stuff was in motion and maybe even before that.
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But later today we're gonna find out have they done something pretty special before the
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day's end? Yeah, exactly. And we probably won't spend a lot of
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time on this one just because yes, it's one of those stories that we're
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all gonna find out together sometime later today. But it's maybe just important to
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put in quick historical significance of this thing. If this Intuitive Machines Odyssey lander,
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which is a robotic lander by the way, if it lands safely on
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the lunar surface today, it will be the first US landing since the Apollo
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program. It's the first US space mission to land safely on the Moon in
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more than fifty years. So that's why you know, the eyes of America
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are upon this mission, right And if you've been paying any attention lately,
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landing on the Moon is hard. There have been lots of different probes and
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from lots of different countries, and they have had unsuccessful landings on the Moon.
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Now the Japanese probe is somehow bring itself back to life. That's still
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a bit of a medical mystery. I'm not really sure how that happened.
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But but yeah, no, the sun got in the right angle that it
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recharged its solar panels and it did come back to life in a limited way.
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But other than that, they're a lot of failures on trying to land
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payloads on the Moon other than from China lately. So this is why this
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is a really big deal. It's schedule at five forty nine pm Eastern time
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today and I can just tell you that we'll be watching and we'll chat about
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this more next week. And you mentioned that the eyes of America are on
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this as a China might be paying attention to. I would think the eyes
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of the world are on this because because of the rash of unsuccessful landings on
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the Moon by a variety of other countries. I'm neglect you to mentioned that
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India had a success here recently too, but that's after they had a different
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failure. So it's really a difficult thing to do. I mean, I
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know, the Apollo program made it look easy, maybe made it look so
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easy. That's one of the reasons why people don't really believe we landed on
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the Moon, just because it was so miraculously easy. If you really are
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in that camp, I would point you to go back and look at Apollo
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thirteen, which maybe had a bit of a hard time barely even got those
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guys back home. So yeah, anyway, it's gonna be a big day
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and a big story, and we're gonna check back in more next week on
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that one. All right, let's follow up on another one, because the
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zombie satellite, the European zombie satellite, did what a lot of things tend
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to do when they come back down to the Earth. It went spolloosh.
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Yes it did, and maybe kind of a planned way, which is good.
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And you know, anytime we start off with European zombies, you know
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it's gonna be a good story. So this is not your garden variety Southwest
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United States zombies. This is a European zombie, the European zombie SAT.
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A zombie SAT just means a satellite that has ceased to be controlled from the
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ground. It's no longer communicative and it's basically doing its own thing. So
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this zombie SAT came in in an uncontrolled manner, crash landed into the northern
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part of the Pacific Ocean, and honestly, it looks as if all of
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that did go to some level of plan as much as you can plan for
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a zombie SAT crash into the Pacific Ocean. But back in the year twenty
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eleven, the European Space Agency who ran this satellite did some maneuvers to do
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two things. They burned up all the fuel and they got it into the
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correct position that many years ago for this last splashdown. So it's actually pretty
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amazing that they were able to position it back in twenty eleven for a re
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entry in twenty twenty four that came in safely over uninhabited waters of the North
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Pacific Ocean, which is pretty incredible. So the fact that it landed in
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the ocean, and we talk about this from time to time, and I'm
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just gonna mention it because Luke recently came home from school and said that some
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of the kids were talking about how, you know sometime I forget which year,
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he told me twenty fifty. You know, we've got this some sort
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of a rock flying towards the Earth that's supposed to get to us by twenty
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fifty, and all the kids were saying, it's going to kill us all
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and you know, without having a whole lot of information about it. And
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I just said Luke, just just a quick reminder. You know, most
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of the time anything that comes into our atmosphere burns up, which he knew
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that. Or you know, if it's you know, big enough, it's
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probably going to hit ocean or some sort of body of water, being that
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that's what the majority of the planet's made of. So yeah, when you
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talk about they sort of planned this, I mean it's pretty easy I think
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to make it land in the ocean, isn't it. Yeah, well,
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yes, so I mean I don't want to I don't want to diminish the
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efforts of the European Space Agency to let this thing come in in a safe
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manner. Certainly that was a success today. But as you state, I
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think, I think we just don't have a feel, being land dwellers,
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just how massive our oceans really are, and just just how big they are
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right and how much of our planet they actually cover, even when we kind
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of see those pale blue ball pictures like from intuitive machines recently they shot a
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lovely picture on their way out from Earth. They kind of spun back around
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at a selfie of the spaceship and saw the Earth in the distance. Excuse
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me, you see Africa easily in that picture. But honestly, most of
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that picture is blue, and that's because most of this world is ocean,
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right, So so yeah, the oceans truly are a large target on the
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Earth. However, we've seen certain Chinese boosters fall back in in an uncontrolled
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manner and definitely not hit the ocean, So so it's always there is always
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somewhat of a risk. I would tell I would tell your son that the
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asteroid coming near to us and about the timeframe that you mentioned is a Pofus
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and Apofus is an asteroid that certainly bears observing, but that pass is not
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going to be at close at least not at this time. And the reason
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I say say it that way is because sometimes the orbits of of large asteroids
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like that can change slightly, uh due to heating effects or gravitational interactions.
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But we are sending Osyrius Rex out to check out that asteroid right now.
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So o Cyrus Rex did a quick drive by you know the you know,
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like the bank teller, and dropped off its payload into the vacuum tube and
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kind of got sucked into the bank terro. It dropped off a payload of
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material from the asteroid venue and then it zipped off to go study Apophice.
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And so so we we have we already have a spaceship, Luke, it's
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going out there. It's gonna check it out, just so we know our
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enemy, right, it's going to study that pretty closely. So so rest
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assured that the folks at NASA, they're they're taking every precaution to understand that
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asteroid very very well. And it does not look like it is currently on
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any kind of collision course with the Earth. I even told him about Osiris
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Rex and he seemed a little more u it. But I think just letting
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him hear this from you will make him feel a little bit better. Something
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about your expertise overqualifies my expertise, I guess, so, which I don't
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blame him. I mean I would trust you on it too. I mean
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I was saying all of it, and I'm thinking, man, I hope
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I'm right. But you know, we still got twenty six years or whatever
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to get ready for this thing, so we do have some plans in place
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to take care of it. All. Right. Let's talk about AR thirty
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five ninety. It's a big sun spot. Yeah, so this is an
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interesting story. It's part of our monitoring of the Sun. We're watching the
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progression as the Sun in its eleven year solar cycle moves toward what we call
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solar maximum, a maximum period of activity. But there is one raging,
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large sun spot on the Sun today. It'll be on the Sun for several
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days. So even if you don't pick up this podcast right away, it's
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large enough, friends to grab a pair of eclipse glasses and just walk out
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and see it. Now. We had another one of those sunspots earlier this
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month, and we talked about that on this show too. It's not the
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same sunspot as that one. In fact, this sunspot while it's coming around,
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it's rotating around to give us a better view, shall we say,
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it's also firing off X class flares because it has what's called a beta gamma
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delta magnetic field right now, which is the beta gamma delta is a way
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to describe how distorted that field is, or how active that field is around
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that sunspot. It's the kind of sunspot group with that magnetic field distortion that
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can have the largest flares, and it's actually doing that. It's popping off
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X class flares as it rounds the Sun's limb on a rotational path to put
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it in a line with the Earth. Oh in about the next week or
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so. Really it'll be pretty well aligned, so it does actually bear watching.
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The last big burst came yesterday on February twenty first. That was an
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X one point eight class flare, which is getting on up the scale a
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little bit for X ray intensity of solar flares. That particular flare caused a
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short term shortwave radio blackout over the Western United States and the Pacific Ocean.
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So it is, you know, producing storms large enough to interact with the
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Earth's atmosphere and magnetic field enough to cause radio disturbances and things like that.
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So certainly bears watching. And again, if you have some eclipse glasses,
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pop them on, go outside, take a look, and you can see
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R three five nine zero that big sunspot group without the aid of magnification.
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You don't need a telescope. All you need to do is keep your eyes
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safe with some eclipse glasses and don't look at it with a telescope for crying
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out loud, nuch that idea unless you really know what you're doing and you've
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paid a lot of money for a really good solar telescope. Yeah, just
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don't point telescopes at the sun. It's just a bad idea. It's kind
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of like an electrician going, I think this wire is not a I'm pretty
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sure it's it. We're getting a false positive on this. This is just
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cut it, you know, It's it's like that, basically. It's a
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lot like that. It's not something that you want to one of those things.
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Really. Yeah, you know what, maybe maybe test that wire with
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some kind of tester, or you know, maybe gohead and put the solar
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filters on your eyes. Just don't even point a telescope up there to begin
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with at the sun. It's all it's all bad. Sometimes you just overhear
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things and you just think this is kind of comical. I wish I was
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rolling tape on this. I could have used some audio. But anyway,
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in the end it all worked out just fine. But sometimes you overhear things.
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But yes, don't go stare at it the sun with a telescope.
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That's never really it. I mean unless you're with a professional who has the
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proper telescope, and then that's different. But if you're at home, don't
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point your binoculars or kids. Let's not attempt this at home. That's this
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is what we like to tell people. But we are using our solar telescopes
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and solar observatory. Yeah so yeah, but hey, that story we're just
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telling about, you can check it more out on that on spaceweather dot com.
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And it turns out that our next story, also Wes, is from
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spaceweather dot com. So this day, February twenty second, twenty twenty four
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is a great day to jump on spaceweather dot com. And if you've missed
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this live sort of airing of this podcast, just go back to the archive.
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You can pull up the archive on space weather and pull up this day
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because they have great pictures of that sunspot group. They also have great pictures
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of a comet that might be visible also during the April eighth solar eclipse.
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That's a pretty cool story. Now, as we we te up this story,
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I just this is one of those things it's like a really good it's
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a nice add on to something that's already special. And we've talked about this
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before with like an eclipse happens and we get excited because this is the kind
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of thing that We'll take you know, the average person that doesn't get excited
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about anything space related and get them excited all of a sudden. It draws
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them in. It pulls that interest in. And at least, you know,
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for average to below average people that get interested in this stuff, they
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get as excited about all of this as we do for like a day or
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two, and then you know, then maybe they move on from that.
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Now, a comet has the same kind of an effect, and eclipse does
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it. A comet does it? You double them up. I mean that's
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like two pieces of meat on a hamburger. I mean, then you suddenly
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got a double cheeseburger and really gonna draw people in. So this is this
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is a nice addition to this story. Yeah, it's an Eclipso commentary party.
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That's right, what it sounds like to me. And once you have
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a a Eclipso commentary party, you never go back, my friend, you
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just never go back. It just sounds like, right, you sounded like
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you were channeling Dennis Miller for a minute. There. It's an ECLIPSEO commentary
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party. I mean, one can never have enough Dennis Miller. No,
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so anyway, Yeah, so there could be a rare sighting of a comet
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during the April eighth total eclipse of the Sun if you're in the path of
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totality and the comet brightened sufficiently, So there's a comet out there right now.
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The comet is called and remember these are catalog numbers or catalog names,
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but it's twelve P. Ponds Brooks, Pons Dash Brooks, Ponds Brooks,
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twelve P. Ponds Brooks is a comet that is brightening nicely as it approaches
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the Sun. Some amateur astronomers are getting lovely photographs which that you can also
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see on spaceweather dot com today February twenty second, twenty twenty four. If
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you want to go back in the archive, check out the comet Ponds Brooks
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photograph. It's not Garth Brooks, it's Ponds Brooks. So anyway, so
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there's a lovely shout of that comet today. And what's happening is as that
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commet approaches the Sun, it's going to get very near to the Sun,
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almost exactly at the same time that the Sun will move into the Earth's shadow
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as viewed from certain parts of the Earth, and go into total eclipse mode.
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So you could have all of the beautiful things that you see in the
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sky during a total eclipse, including what I saw last time was a three
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hundred and sixty degree ring around the sky of sunset colors, which I will
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just never forget that that was an unanticipated joy to see in the sky during
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the twenty seventeen solar eclipse that I got to see. And then of course
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there's this thing hanging in the sky that looks like something from some science fiction
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movie where it's really the sun hiding behind the moon, and we see the
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solar corona. But that's just epically spectacular. And then oh yeah, Comet
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Ponds Brooks hanging nearby with a two plus degree tail, which means about four
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times the width of the full moon. And so that's a really epic sight,
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right, And so we're really hoping that that comment does bright and nicely
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and we all get to look at it. Forecasters expect that comment to increase
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by a factor of fortyfold in terms of brightness from what it is now to
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the day of the eclipse, and so it should be brightened enough to be
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right on the borderline into being naked eye visible at worst. You could during
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the eclipse you could point a pair of binoculars up there and see the comment
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for sure. I'm going to go ahead and bring all of these kinds of
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tools with me to my eclipse party that I'll be having somewhere in somewhere near
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the city of Waco, Texas, and we hopefully we'll see comment Ponds Brooks
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during that day. Coming up after a quick break, Yes, this week's
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quasar story, and it's a good one. It's a great one. We'll
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talk about that next. I'm just gonna say the words asterism and uranus to
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complete the trifecta for this week. But we got a quasar story this week,
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and we warn you in the disclaimer you might hear about quasars. And
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this is a really cool story. I mean not if you're a you know,
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a star, I guess that might get gobbled up. But this is
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the brightest quasar ever seen and it's got quite the appetite, and it's worthwhile
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to take just a moment and talk about what a quasar is. So the
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word quasar comes from a shortening of the much longer term quasi stellar radio object
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quasi stellar radio object. It turns out that back in the nineteen fifties nineteen
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sixties, astronomers were seeing these very very bright radio sources coming from unknown locations
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in our universe, and they would point these radio telescopes up there and get
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these really bright radio sources being detected. But when they pointed optical telescopes,
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all they saw was just a little point of light that looked just like a
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star, but it didn't really have the property the rest of the optical properties
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of a star, so they call them a quasi star. So that's where
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the name quasi stellar radio source came from. So these bright radio sources that
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appear to come from things that look like stars in the optical and they just
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didn't know what they were until this gentleman by the name of Martin Schmidt figured
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it out. He actually was analyzing spectral lines coming from these quasi stellar radio
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sources when he realized that they were just regular optical spectra at really high redshift,
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which means they're really really far away. So they're not right here in
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our own Milky Way. They're at the visible limits of the universe. And
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so if they look that bright in radio and even are visible and optical at
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all, at the very limits of the visible universe, they must truly be
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bright. So they went that day from figuring out that these things were not
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some kind of just odd star in our own milky Way, but they were
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some kind of ultra bright engine at the center of distant galaxies, which is
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exactly what they are. We know them well now. They are super massive
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black holes in the middle of galaxies that are at the outer limits of our
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visible universe. And when we look at the outer limits of the visible universe,
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we're also looking back in time, almost as far back as we can
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look, so they're in the very youngest ages of galaxies. They have these
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super massive black holes that are feeding in a frenzy, gobbling up thousands and
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millions of tons of matter in a very short period of time. And then
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as that material falls into the black hole. Before it falls in, it
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forms this thing called the accretion disc. It's really the accretion discs around these
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super massive black holes that get very bright. Okay, well, there's your
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science lesson for today. Now here's what we just found. The brightest ever
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quasar ever seen. Now, all of these things are super bright, but
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this thing shines with the irradiance of five hundred trillion suns that's a lot.
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That's a lot considering that all the stars in our Milky Way galaxy only number
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somewhere on the order of one hundred billion, five hundred trillion is more.
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Yeah, that's a lot more. It's a lot more so when one quasar
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can shine with the equivalent light of five hundred trillion suns, it is truly
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a unique object. And what it is, what it's estimated to be,
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is a black hole that's feeding voraciously somewhere around twelve billion years ago, so,
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in other words, almost as old as our whole universe. But that
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black hole is estimated to be anywhere between seventeen and nineteen billion times the mass
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of the Sun. And friends, I know, this is one of those
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stories where you can start getting too many billions and trillions and we will start
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making fun of Carl Sagan, you know, at this point, and I
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realized that those are really just big numbers. But think for a moment,
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this one black hole is somewhere on the order of ten percent the mass of
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an entire Milky Way galaxy, And when you think of it that way,
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it begins to put it in perspective. Wow, right, so this is
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one really huge black hole feeding at a really accelerated rate somewhere around twelve billion
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years ago, and the light is just now coming to Earth and we're just
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now detecting it, and we're just now figuring out that this thing is what
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it is. It's a quasar. We've known about this object for over forty
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years, but we just didn't realize how far away it was until recently.
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Now, this quasar, which is catalog J zero five nine dash four three
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five to one. That's a great name, right, Hello, I'd like
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to introduce you to my friend, and his name is Jay zero five nine
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dashboard three five one. He's a quasar. I think it would be well,
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I think it would be great. First of all, let me just
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love this out there that maybe Star Wars could introduce a droid that has Jay
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zero in the name, and it could be played by Jay Z at least
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voiced by Jay Z, because when you started to say it, I thought,
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oh my gosh, this thing's named after jay Z. But anyway,
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I mean, and why not have a quasar in a movie that's voiced by
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ja Z? There you go, that would work to By the way,
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just I looked it up because while you were talking I thought, I'm curious
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when you start talking about five hundred trillion suns the brightness level. For me,
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I go to that thing where I think, okay, well, because
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we always talk about things and we go, there's how many horsepower it is?
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And we've always said, you know, I think I'm the one who
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coined this. It may have been you, but I think it was me
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that I would like a new unit for things like rockets where they could call
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it pegasus power. At least it's a flying horse right anyway, So I
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start thinking when you talk about five hundred trillion sons, I'm like, uh,
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well, how many lumens would that be? And I looked it up.
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I don't I don't know if this is accurate. I looked it up
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for our sun, all right, And you can tell me if this sounds
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like it's because I think this sounds believable. But that may just very well
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be. But I'm telling you, if you're if you're writing a paper,
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a research paper, don't use us as a reference. I'm reading this from
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the world Wide Web. It is not from Wikipedia. Though our sun thirty
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five point seventy three octilian lumens. It sounds believable, right, Yes,
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multiply that by five hundred and then that's that's how bright this quasar would be.
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I wondered how many fireflies this quasar would be. So there's a unit
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for you. Take some fireflies, put them in a jar, measure their
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you know, luminescent output. It would be more. It would be more
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a firefly power than this many lumens. I think Octilian doesn't even begin to
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touch it. My friend, I don't know. I don't know how many
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lumens a firefly is, what percentage should point whatever? Anyway, Wow,
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I need a lot of zeros. That's all I know. It's gonna require
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a lot of zeros. It's a lot. So this is just a cool
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story. I mean, this is uh and and uh you asked me about
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and I had to look it up because I couldn't remember his name. But
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the astronomer, Christian Wolf, that's the same name as Ben Affleck's character and
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the accountant. I don't know if that means anything. I mean, is
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it the same guy? It's not spelled the same. I'll point out that
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this Christian Wolf, the Aussie, has one one F instead of two as
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he did in the account but that could just be the Australian spelling. It's
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important to note now that this this object should be credited to the Australian National
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University and astronomer Christian Wolf, which you know, struck me that it's the
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same name as the guy in the Accountant but yeah, it's Ben Afflecks tied
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in here somewhere. Is this like six steps to Kevin Bacon? Can we?
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I think Ben afflectic Kevin Bacon. Somehow He's got to be there's a
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tie. There's oh, absolutely absolutely right. So yeah, keep on with
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this story because uh, there's more. But wait, there's more. Wolf
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says, this makes it the most luminous object in the known universe. Friends,
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think about that. Stop pause. I know that West and I have
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been joking around. Christian Wolf from the Australian National Observatory just found the most
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luminous object in the known universe. Nothing that we've ever discovered is more luminous
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than this quasar. It is the brightest quasar ever seen. It is the
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fastest growing super massive black hole that has ever been discovered. And it is
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also not just the brightest, not just the brightest quaser, but the brightest
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object overall. That has ever been discovered by astronomers. That's what that five
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hundred trillion sun luminosity points toward. So this is truly an exceptional story.
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And though Wess and I enjoy having some fun here, hold on to your
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shorts because this baby is going to be around a while. This is an
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amazing discovery. It has reset the calibration about how bright we think objects can
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be in the universe. It's that kind of a story. So so it
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really it really bears, you know, a lot of historical references to be
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made to it. The day that we discovered the brightest ever object in the
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entire known universe, that's today, well it's recently. Yeah, it's on
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the podcast today. How about that. There you go. And by the
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way, I didn't mention it. I was about to because I wanted you
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to finish the story. But Kevin Bacon Ben Affleck did a movie together called
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interestingly Enough coincidentally Enough sun Dance Skippy oh Man. Was it about a roue
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that would only make it better. I never saw the movie. It's got
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a really good cast, but I never I never saw the movie. I
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think, uh, I think Joe Gordon Levitt sent it and Zoey Deschanel and
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a couple of those people. So, I mean it's a pretty good cast.
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And I think Affleck's pretty deep down the uh. I don't think he's
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in it very much. But anyway, they did do a movie together.
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Did we just go four Steps from the Brightest Quazar Ever Discovered? To Kevin
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Bakes, it's pretty remarkable. That's pretty good. I would say, yeah,
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that's pretty good. And I would be remiss if, since it was,
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you know, the Australian National University, if I didn't give an assy
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azy azy oi just for my wife. So uh so, speaking of universities,
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the Columbus State University Coca Cola Space Sign Center has had a busy February
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and still has some busy stuff to come, including something special this weekend.
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are going to be open this Sunday, February twenty fifth, from four I'm
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the information about our Music Under the Dome series. But alas the Music Under
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the Dome is coming up and just a little over a week on March the
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fifth, it's already so out. Sorry friends, miss the boat on this
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Kime of the Dome from March fifth, already sold out unless you're in the
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for Coca Cola Space Science Center. All right. I had to look it
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up because I couldn't remember the plot of this thing. Sundance Skippy is a
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documentary comedy biography about it someone named Skippy who seeks to win the love of
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celebrities and a woman by getting his photograph taken with as many famous people as
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possible. So Afleck and Bacon and others, Liam Neeson, Josh Brolin,
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they all play themselves in this. They're all basically, you know, playing
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the character of themselves in it. So that's the point. I don't see
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any connection specifically to the sun or kangaroos or anything. So there you go,
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all right. I mean, could you tie to Kevin Bacon on a
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documentary? I mean, I think so. They're both in the movie.
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It's a movie, I think so. I mean it was when we used
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to play it on the old nql N TV show, So I guess,
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I mean I would, I would say, I'll allow it. But that
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