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Blood Pressure Secrets: Warning Signs You're Ignoring · The BP Triangle

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  Speaker 1: Most people think high blood pressure is the problem, but
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  Speaker 1: what if it actually the signal, a warning light, a
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  Speaker 1: message from the body that something deeper maybe going on, stress, hormones, inflammation, lifestyle, sleep, nutrition,
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  Speaker 1: metabolic health. Today we are talking about how to stop
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  Speaker 1: chasing symptoms and start asking better questions about what your
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  Speaker 1: body really is trying to tell you. My guest today
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  Speaker 1: is Joel Polly. He's a nurse and an entrepreneur who
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  Speaker 1: is passionate about helping people understand the root cause of
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  Speaker 1: illness instead of only treating the symptoms. Joel's work focuses
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  Speaker 1: on health, hormones, blood pressure prevention, and empowering people to
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  Speaker 1: better understand what's happened inside their bodies before issues become
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  Speaker 1: bigger problems.
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  Speaker 2: Joel, Welcome to the show. I'm so excited to have you.
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  Speaker 3: On honor to be here. Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: Stacey, Oh, you're very welcome. Now, Joel, let's start with
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  Speaker 1: the big idea. Now, you believe people need to look
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  Speaker 1: for the root cause of the illness, not just treat
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  Speaker 1: the symptoms.
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  Speaker 2: Why does that? What does that actually mean in real life?
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  Speaker 3: So I like to use the analogy of a flooded basement,
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  Speaker 3: right you have a pipe that's leaking in your basement
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  Speaker 3: and you take a mop down there to clean up
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  Speaker 3: all the water. Well, what happens if you don't fix
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  Speaker 3: the pipe first? You're just mocking endlessly, right, And so
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  Speaker 3: that's what people are doing when all they do is
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  Speaker 3: focus on the symptoms. So you have to find the cause.
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  Speaker 3: And when you find the cause and you eliminate the cause,
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  Speaker 3: your body is capable of healing itself. There's so many
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  Speaker 3: functions that go on in our bodies, and it is
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  Speaker 3: something that the body was designed to do on its own.
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  Speaker 3: So that's kind of how I look at treating symptoms
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  Speaker 3: versus treating the cause.
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  Speaker 1: I love that because in our society, I see so
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  Speaker 1: many people looking at the symptoms and they're they're not
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  Speaker 1: going for the root cause. And you see that a
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  Speaker 1: lot of times when people go into a lot of
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  Speaker 1: doctor's offices. So they'll say, you know, this is bothering me,
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  Speaker 1: that's bothering me, and they'll give them a prescription to
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  Speaker 1: mask the symptom. But then all of a sudden, they
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  Speaker 1: have another symptom because that medications given them another symptom.
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  Speaker 1: Then they're going back to the doctor and they're saying, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this symptom doesn't have you know, it's not existing anymore.
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  Speaker 1: But now I'm feeling this, and I know, they write
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  Speaker 1: another prescription and then before you know it, you have
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  Speaker 1: a whole pharmacy in your bathroom and you're not feeling
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  Speaker 1: any better. And you know, you see that all the
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  Speaker 1: time when if people just focused on the root cause
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  Speaker 1: to begin with, you know, that's what the main thing is.
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  Speaker 1: You know, these symptoms is our body saying, yo, there's
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  Speaker 1: something wrong, there's something going on here, I need some help,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And that's all they are. Just like inflammation,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it causes pain, it presses on nerves. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it's saying that there's a problem in that specific area,
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  Speaker 1: come and help me, you know. And people have to
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  Speaker 1: realize that it's not just you know, this is not
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  Speaker 1: just the problem. It's bigger than that, you know. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, one other questions I want to ask you
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  Speaker 1: is why do so many people focus on the number
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  Speaker 1: of symptoms or the diagnosis instead of asking, like, what
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  Speaker 1: caused it?
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  Speaker 3: Just like I was saying, yeah, that's a great question, Stacy.
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  Speaker 3: I think that one of the main reasons is because
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  Speaker 3: of our perception of the healthcare system. The healthcare system
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  Speaker 3: to us is the only option. Doctor, hospitals and one one.
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  Speaker 3: You know, these are all great things that are in
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  Speaker 3: our in our society, but we often place them on
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  Speaker 3: a pedestal of infallibility, right, Like, they can do no wrong,
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  Speaker 3: they can think no wrong. And when it comes to
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  Speaker 3: chronic disease, especially like you said prescription, the word prescription
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  Speaker 3: itself should indicate to the person that this isn't something
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  Speaker 3: that's going to cure you. Otherwise it wouldn't be a prescription,
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  Speaker 3: right If you took something that cured you, you wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: have to keep going back to take it. So I
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  Speaker 3: think that's one of the reasons, is the perception of
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  Speaker 3: the medical system that they can do no wrong, and
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  Speaker 3: we don't take the time to critically think through some
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  Speaker 3: of these things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I agree of acent. And what happens when
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  Speaker 1: we ignore the root cause for too long.
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  Speaker 3: So back to the flooded basement analogy, It's like your
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  Speaker 3: basement just keeps getting more and more flooded. You can't
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  Speaker 3: keep up with a mop. And so that's how the
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  Speaker 3: chronic diseases start turning into other things. High blood pressure
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  Speaker 3: turns into heart attack, or stroke or neuropathy or all
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  Speaker 3: of these other fringe things are where the root cause
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  Speaker 3: has just grown to another part of the body.
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  Speaker 2: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: Now, let's talk about blood pressure for a second, and
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  Speaker 1: it's something that a lot of people in the United
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  Speaker 1: States suffer from, and a lot has to do with
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  Speaker 1: how we take care of our bodies. You know, most
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  Speaker 1: people hear high blood pressure and immediately they think medication, stress,
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  Speaker 1: or age. But from your perspective, what can high blood
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  Speaker 1: pressure actually be telling us?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so high blood pressure. I've in my studies and
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  Speaker 3: in my interaction with hundreds thousands of clients, I've kind
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  Speaker 3: of discovered that there's three main pieces to the cause
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  Speaker 3: of high blood pressure, and I call it the blood
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  Speaker 3: pressure triangle. And the three points of the triangle are
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  Speaker 3: the top three causes in my opinion, And at the
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  Speaker 3: top is stress. You know, that's the big one. And
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  Speaker 3: but stress takes the form of so many things that
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  Speaker 3: we don't think about too. It's not just my job
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  Speaker 3: stressing me out, or my kids are stressing me out.
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  Speaker 3: It's also past trauma, it's unresolved grief, its anger issues.
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  Speaker 3: You know, those are all stressors on the body that
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  Speaker 3: the brain interprets as the need for fight or flight,
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  Speaker 3: so the cortisol goes up, the hormones get out of
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  Speaker 3: whack all of that, and especially when over forty, when
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  Speaker 3: they start to have those hormonal shifts, the estrogen doesn't
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  Speaker 3: protect them from the cortisol like it used to. So
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  Speaker 3: that's how hormones affect your blood pressure. So that's the
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  Speaker 3: big one right there. And in the other corner is
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  Speaker 3: blood sugar. So if you're diabetic pre diabetic, you most
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  Speaker 3: likely have high blood pressure because of the excess sugar
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  Speaker 3: and how it affects your kidneys, your water retention all
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  Speaker 3: affects your blood pressure. And then the third point is
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  Speaker 3: just lifestyle habits. There's some things that we do just
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  Speaker 3: day to day as Americans that really affect our blood pressure.
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  Speaker 3: But the number one for me, yeah, is definitely stress,
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  Speaker 3: stress and hormones being the main cause.
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  Speaker 1: I remember hearing it was like seventy percent of illnesses
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  Speaker 1: are caused by stress, and then I had a doctor
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  Speaker 1: from Harvard Kamani, and he corrected me and he said, no,
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  Speaker 1: one hundred percent of illnesses are caused by strong Interesting. Interesting, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, stress plays a big role on you know,
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  Speaker 1: on illness. Just it's like knocking down the walls of
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  Speaker 1: the immune system and saying, come on in, you know,
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  Speaker 1: have a ball, and you know then and that's how
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  Speaker 1: people start to get sick, is their immunity goes downhill.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they're open to all these different things. Their
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  Speaker 1: body isn't as strong because of stress.
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  Speaker 2: Stress can killing. When they have the saying is killing,
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  Speaker 2: it really can killing.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. In fact, they did a study and they
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  Speaker 3: said that ten minutes of road rage, just ten minutes,
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  Speaker 3: is equivalent to smoking a pack of cigarettes. No way, really,
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  Speaker 3: So imagine the amount of stress that you know, we're
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  Speaker 3: under normally in American society. It's way more than that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing. That's that. That's an amazing fact.
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  Speaker 1: Now, why should people look at blood pressure as a
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  Speaker 1: signal rather than just the number?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so a lot of people get obsessed with the number, right,
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  Speaker 3: They have this whole ritual of taking their blood pressure
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  Speaker 3: every morning, what's the number going to be? And then
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  Speaker 3: they hype themselves up, which makes the number even higher.
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  Speaker 3: And it's this whole cycle and it just causes your
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  Speaker 3: doctors to think chi ching because here we go more meds,
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  Speaker 3: more prescriptions, and things. But the number itself is not
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  Speaker 3: the important piece. It's why the number is what it is,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's low, whether it's high, whatever the number, it's
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  Speaker 3: really why is the important question to ask. And that
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  Speaker 3: reason can change based on what you're thinking about, how
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  Speaker 3: you're feeling, what you drank or didn't drink, what you
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  Speaker 3: ate or didn't eat, how you slept last night. There's
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  Speaker 3: so many variables that looking at the number is like
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  Speaker 3: looking through a pinhole and trying to explain the forest
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  Speaker 3: like it really it matters as a signal, like you're saying,
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  Speaker 3: but that's not what we should be obsessed with. We
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  Speaker 3: should be obsessed with. Okay, this number is high today, Why,
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  Speaker 3: how am I feeling? What did I do last night?
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  Speaker 3: What can I change to make this number lower? And
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  Speaker 3: some of the easiest things is just taking a few
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  Speaker 3: deep breasts and then retaking it. So it's that easy
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  Speaker 3: to modify that number, and it's not something to be
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  Speaker 3: obsessed about.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel that so many people are obsessed
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  Speaker 1: with the number. People all the time consist, you know,
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  Speaker 1: checking their blood pressure every day and checking their numbers,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when they have diabetes and well, why is
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  Speaker 1: my sugar level so high today if I'm on medication,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know, why do I have these numbers
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  Speaker 1: for a high blood pressure? And they're not looking at
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  Speaker 1: the key factor of what cause this. They're just looking
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  Speaker 1: at the number. They're obsessed with the number, and right away,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, maybe they'll run to the doctor say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: my numbers are really high today. My number's been high
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  Speaker 1: for the last two days, instead of saying, Okay, what
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  Speaker 1: have you been doing those last two days that might
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  Speaker 1: be a little bit different than any other day and
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  Speaker 1: trying to fix that, you know, instead of trying to
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  Speaker 1: up your medicine and maybe get you know, effects from that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, I do have some good news
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  Speaker 3: for your audience. There's three beliefs that I find people
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  Speaker 3: tend to misunderstand about blood pressure. Number one is that
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  Speaker 3: it's genetic. There are genetic propensities to high blood pressure,
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  Speaker 3: but it's not a gene that says you have high
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  Speaker 3: blood pressure, because if it was a gene, you would
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  Speaker 3: have high blood pressure at five years old, ten years old,
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  Speaker 3: but you didn't, and so it's more of a lifestyle
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  Speaker 3: trigger that really causes that to take effect. The second
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  Speaker 3: thing is that it's permanent. You know, they think that
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  Speaker 3: once they're on blood pressure pills there they have to
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  Speaker 3: be on them for life. That's not true either. And
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  Speaker 3: then the third thing is just that blood pressure is
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  Speaker 3: one of those things that has to control every aspect
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  Speaker 3: of your life, and it doesn't. Like I said, you
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  Speaker 3: don't have to be obsessed with the no as long
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  Speaker 3: as you are looking at some of those causes.
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  Speaker 1: This is something a lot of people do not connect,
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  Speaker 1: like how to hormones affect what pressure will.
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  Speaker 3: G Yeah, yeah, absolutely so I touched on that a
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  Speaker 3: little bit earlier. But one of the main things is estrogen.
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  Speaker 3: So as your estrogen production begins to drop, you no
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  Speaker 3: longer have that protective mechanism against cortisol. So you might
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  Speaker 3: have felt it as you went through parimenopause, like what
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  Speaker 3: stressed you out at the age of twenty now feels
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  Speaker 3: like it's doubly stressful at the age of forty or fifty.
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  Speaker 3: And that's just the lack of estrogen that you used
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  Speaker 3: to have. And so understanding that shift is going to
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  Speaker 3: help you re calibrate kind of how you approach stressful situations,
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  Speaker 3: giving yourself more grace, giving yourself more understanding, and just
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  Speaker 3: saying listen. Yes, it's a chemical situation that I can't
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  Speaker 3: really help. The other thing, though, is understanding what are
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  Speaker 3: some of the things that are really affecting my estrogen
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  Speaker 3: levels negatively. So a couple that many people don't know
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  Speaker 3: about is, yeah, natural fiber, unnatural fibers rather so anything
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  Speaker 3: that's not cotton, or it's a lot of plastics. We're
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  Speaker 3: exposed to a lot of plastics in our clothing, in
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  Speaker 3: our soft water bottles, in some of the foods we eat,
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  Speaker 3: the makeups we put on, and that can affect our
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  Speaker 3: estrogen levels negatively as well. So those are kind of
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  Speaker 3: two of the main ones.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think people realize that too.
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  Speaker 1: Like, you know, there are so many people that they
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  Speaker 1: will cook and they will cook in plastic bowls, or
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  Speaker 1: the food will come in microwavable plastic bowls, and they'll
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  Speaker 1: cook in those plastic bowls, and then people wonder why then,
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  Speaker 1: you know, after time, after the build of a plastic
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  Speaker 1: in your body, why they're not feeling you know, they're
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  Speaker 1: not feeling as good as they used to. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: if your boy doesn't know what it is, it can't
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  Speaker 1: break it down, It can't break it down. It stores,
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  Speaker 1: it stores it then and it's effected in all different
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  Speaker 1: areas of your body, and then you know you're running
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  Speaker 1: into a.
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  Speaker 2: Lot of problems for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Now, are there specific hormonal changes that can affect energy
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  Speaker 1: and weight, stress, sleep, and inflammation or cardiovascular health.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. Cortisol is the main trigger for weight especially
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of your cardiovascular issues because cortisol is
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  Speaker 3: part of that hormonal cascade when it comes to fight
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  Speaker 3: or flight. So you've got a tiger walking up on
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  Speaker 3: you about to pounce. All that adrenaline, all that cortisol
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  Speaker 3: that floods your system is designed to save your life, right,
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  Speaker 3: And so what happens though when we're in stressful situations
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  Speaker 3: is all that hormonal shift doesn't go away. It's supposed
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  Speaker 3: to reset and go back to zero. But when we
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  Speaker 3: hold on to stressful situations or like I said, unresolved
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  Speaker 3: trauma and resolved past issues with people, that is an
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  Speaker 3: ongoing fight or flight gas to the to the gas
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  Speaker 3: pedal situation in our body. And so that causes all
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  Speaker 3: sorts of gut problems and vascular problems. And the first
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  Speaker 3: place you see it is the blood pressure.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's one percent.
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  Speaker 1: And you know I remember when I was going through
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  Speaker 1: hormonal changes like I always had straight hips. One day
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  Speaker 1: I woke up, I looked in the mirror. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: where these things come from?
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  Speaker 3: And what?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my cordsal level was up.
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  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, cortisol is like gasoline. It really is.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Now, why is this especially important for people
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  Speaker 1: in their midlife?
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  Speaker 3: Because I think, really, your body starts to decrease its
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  Speaker 3: ability to bounce back around midlife. Like you know, I'm
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  Speaker 3: midlife right now. My body doesn't respond the same way
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  Speaker 3: it used to in the gym again, and like you said,
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  Speaker 3: the weight doesn't respond in the same way, and so
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  Speaker 3: these things are starting to build up, and your body
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  Speaker 3: is not able to recuperate as quickly, and so you're
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  Speaker 3: seeing all of the effects the diabetes, the heart attacks,
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  Speaker 3: the strokes that are just really a result of not
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  Speaker 3: addressing the cause early on in the midlife, and then
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  Speaker 3: by fifty sixty seventy, those things start to become really
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  Speaker 3: big problems. So it really really is a thing about
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  Speaker 3: just saying, Okay, to protect my next ten years, I
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  Speaker 3: need to start working on this right now. And that's
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  Speaker 3: what I tell clients, you know, future pace yourself think,
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  Speaker 3: you know, five ten years down the road, where do
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  Speaker 3: you want to be in your health Because when it
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  Speaker 3: comes to chronic disease, the healthcare system we struggle. We struggle.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a nurse, like I said, still a registered nurse,
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  Speaker 3: but we struggle with chronic disease because we don't have
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  Speaker 3: time to address the cause. We have to treat people
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  Speaker 3: a specific way because we have so much to do,
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  Speaker 3: and so it really behooves people to when I say
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  Speaker 3: be your own doctors on my show, sometimes I mean
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  Speaker 3: spend that time thinking through the stuff that the hospital
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  Speaker 3: doesn't have time to talk with you about. It's not
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  Speaker 3: get on doctor Google, it's work with your doctor and
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  Speaker 3: spend the time saying, okay, listen, I understand what you're saying.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to take these pills, but let's try to
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  Speaker 3: find the root cause. And sometimes you have to do
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  Speaker 3: that on your own.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you could stress to people why you know, trying
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  Speaker 1: to be your own Google doctor is not such a
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  Speaker 1: great thing because nowadays, you know, we were talking to
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  Speaker 1: people and you know, other doctors and nurses and stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that. You and you also you hear it all
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  Speaker 1: the time. Everybody's trying to be their own Google doctor.
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  Speaker 1: You know people are using they're using AI for psychologists
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  Speaker 1: and psychiatrists, and now why is this a dangerous thing
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  Speaker 1: and not.
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  Speaker 2: A good thing?
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  Speaker 3: Well, because on there is no touch, Like there's so
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  Speaker 3: much that as a practitioner spent most of my career
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  Speaker 3: in the emergency room. I have to see the person
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  Speaker 3: and I have to touch them. And it's part of
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  Speaker 3: an assessment that has to occur to rule out a
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  Speaker 3: huge list of possibilities that Google cannot do for you.
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  Speaker 3: So when you tell Google that you have a headache,
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  Speaker 3: Google can't determine whether your eyes are looking crooked and
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  Speaker 3: you might have a brain tumor or you know, it
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  Speaker 3: can't do all of these things, and it just gives
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  Speaker 3: you this list and you try to pick the most
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  Speaker 3: accurate sound and then you show up in the er
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  Speaker 3: and you're like, I have a brain tumor. I need help. No, like,
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  Speaker 3: calm down. But that's what happens when you don't have
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  Speaker 3: a human that is able to touch and assess you.
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  Speaker 3: And so yeah, definitely using your smarts, get with your doctor.
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  Speaker 3: And I tell my clients all the time, I work
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  Speaker 3: with your doctor, and so that we look at the causes,
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  Speaker 3: we address the causes. We fix the causes, and as
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  Speaker 3: your doctor begins to see that, hey, your blood pressure
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  Speaker 3: doesn't need as much blood pressure medication, your doctor will
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  Speaker 3: cut your medications in half. Like he's very logical and
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  Speaker 3: science based and he will do that as you fix
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  Speaker 3: your body. But it's not something for you to do
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  Speaker 3: on your own with doctor Google by any means.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Now, I want to help listeners right now. If you're
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: listening and you have felt like your body is giving
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: you warning signs but you do not fully understand what
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: they need, make sure to follow this podcast. These are
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: conversations that help you stop guessing, ask better questions, and
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: take a more active.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Role in your health.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Now, a lot of people, you know, go to doctors
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: because they feel tired, stressed, anxious and flamed, or just
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: they just feel off, you know. Then they're told everything
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: looks normal. You know, why does that happen?
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: So oftentimes there's things that we feel within us that
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: don't show up on labs, or they may show up
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: on labs a year later. So labs are not infallible either.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: We put a lot of weight on labs because again,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: we don't have time to dig into your why or
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: your causes, so we have to work with numbers what
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: we have data, right, And so oftentimes people will show
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: up and they just feel off, you know, especially women
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: going through perimenopause menopause period, you just don't feel right.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: But there's no lab that says she just doesn't feel right.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: You know, there's enough we don't have that, and so
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: it really is a real situation. And again it takes
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: some introspection sometimes to say, Okay, how old am I?
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: What am I eating? What kind of stress am I?
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Because stress and it does show up as cortisol, but
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: sometimes the deeper stressors don't even show up as cortisol
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: as much. So again, past trauma, unforgiveness, anger, just worry, anxiety,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: some of those things are just like this low hum
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: that does get real your body, but doesn't show up
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: on a lab. So those are the things that I
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: really help clients work through with my assessments and things
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: to understand that there's things that go on in your
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: head that aren't going to show up on a lab.
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  Speaker 2: That's so true.
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  Speaker 1: I see people all the time, and especially you know,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I know elders, they are like you see things happening
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: to them that aren't normal. And they go to the doctor,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: they get a lab work done, or they get a
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: few test done, and the you know, the either if
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: they go to the hospital or they go see their doctor,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: everything's okay, everything looks normal, and they send them home.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: And I say, you know, try to dive deeper, you know,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: maybe get in second opinion, you know, or you know,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: because you know, there are some things, you know, especially
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: as you get older, if you're getting certain symptoms, you know,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: and it's out of the ordinary, and you know, you
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: really should look into these things, or if you're getting
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: recurrent symptoms all the time, right, you know, people should
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: pay more attention to their bodies because their bodies are
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: trying to talk to them.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Absolutely? Absolutely, It's just like skin. So skin is one
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: of those things that people really take note of quickly,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: some sort of skin eruption or new bump or whatever
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: a bit immediately to the doctor like what is this?
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: But that is just an indication of a deeper problem skin.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Most skin issues are a gut problem. I tell people
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: that all the time. And so, yeah, your body as
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: a whole is the same way. There's gonna be some
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: things that occur and you have to take note of them.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: You've got to listen to them as signals. You don't
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: necessarily have to panic and freak out and say you're dying,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: but you do have to listen to the signal. So
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: I do I do encourage people to do that.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: What are some of the signs people should pay attention
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: to even when they we are told that their basic
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: numbers look okay.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so blood pressure is a good signal to keep
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: an eye on. But also, you know your gut, how
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: does your bowels move? Because oftentimes when it comes to
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: stress and some of these I don't feel right, you
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: can tell by how your gut is moving. Because it's
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: true that there's a lot of emotional connections between the heart,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: the mind, and the gut, and they're all connected. And
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: when you see a change in your gut, know that
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: there's something going on potentially elsewhere in your body. So
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: that's a big one that I tell people to watch
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: out for. Constipation is a big source of toxic overload
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: that people don't pay attention to. So gout is a
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: huge one. And then you know, memory is a big
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: one for older adults. When your memory starts to slip
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: It doesn't necessarily mean that you have Alzheimer's or dementia,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: but it does mean that your body may be lacking something.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: And oftentimes it's good fats. Good fats and good sleep.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Sleep is a huge problem for people. Insomnia is a
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: huge source of not only high blood pressure, but hormonal
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: in bower and memory loss. Yes, when it comes to memory,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: that's such a huge deal for older adults because that's
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: the border between staying home on your own and being
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: placed in a facility, and so you have to protect
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: your brain.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred yes, I and I.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: You know, insomnia is like one of the biggest problems
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: you know that you hear all the time from people,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: and people will always look up for ways to actually,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: you know, get to sleep because they're tossing and turnin
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: all night long. And a lot of times it's hormonal
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: issue too, because when your hormones start to decline and
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: they are they're off, you know, a lot of times
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: it affects the sleep.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. And there's a couple housekeeping things I
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: always tell people to check if they are struggling with insomnia.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: First is get off your screens at least an hour
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: before you go to bed because the blue light on
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: the screens turns off your melatonin production. And so if
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: you're one of those people like me sometimes in the
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: bed texting until you want to go to sleep or
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: on TikTok or whatever, that's shutting off that trigger for
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: your brain to go to sleep. The second thing is
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: making sure your room is dark, another trigger for melatonin production.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: And then thirdly, and this one a lot of people
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: fall for because they don't want to get up and
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: pee at night, they stop drinking water, you know, several
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: hours before bed, thinking that's the solution, but it makes
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: it worse. You only wake up more because your body
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: thinks you're dehydrated. So drinking more water before bed will
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: acclimate your bladder and keep you asleep throughout the night easier.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: So those are a few things I tell people.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: That's great advice. Now, how can people advocate for themselves
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: without feeling overwhelmed or dismissed?
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: So that one can be tough. You know, oftentimes it's
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: really doctor dependent, Like some doctors are better at listening
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: than others, and just don't feel taugh to your primary
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: care physician just because you've had them for years. You know,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: there's other doctors out there that you may click with better.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Sometimes it takes having a nurse in your corner. And
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: so that's why I tell my clients that's the good
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: thing about me as a coach, naturopathic coach, I'm also
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: a nurse, and so I can help you have these
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: conversations with your doctor in a different way. I'm not
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: just a tree hugger with some herbs r like.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: No.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: I actually understand the medical system, the terminology. I know
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: how to talk to doctors. So sometimes it's getting a
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: family member that's a nurse or a friend that's a
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: nurse in your corner to help you speak those things
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: that you're feeling but aren't showing up on the labs.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: That's so true.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Now let's bring this back to daily life. So what's
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: the biggest lifestyle factor that affect web crunch and overall wellness?
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: So American society has been taught that certain things are
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: healthy for us or that they're okay, and they're just not.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just there's no two ways about it.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: The World Health Organization recently put processed meats in the
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: one A category of carcinogens. So there is science showing
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: that some of the processed things that we eat, anything
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: in a package, any meats that are really processed, just
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: contain things that are just very, very harmful for our bodies.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: So that's one of them. The other one is things
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: that are pretty simple, like drinking more water, for instance.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: I talked about that a little bit. I'm a big
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: proponent of water because dehydration shows up in so many
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: different areas of our life we just don't even know.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: There's a book called The Body's Mini Cries for Water,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: and this doctor just kind of goes through all the
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: different illnesses that are just associated with dehydration. It's incredible,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: so real. And then and then thirdly, I think the
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: big one is caffeine. I worked as a night nurse
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: for nine years, huge caffeine fan. Like it was just
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: something part of my daily routine and it's something we
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: all do almost nostalgically now coffee or Starbucks or whatever.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: But what it does to our adrenal system, our blood pressure,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: our cortisol levels is very documented as a negative effect.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: So I'm not saying you need to go off caffeine,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: but I'm saying, if your blood pressure is an issue,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: if your cortisol is an issue like, these are things
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: that you need to look at in your life and
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: really begin assessing. And then the stress, you know, the stresses,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: We come back to that over and over, really analyzing
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: what parts of your mind and your heart are stressed.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Not peaceful if you can't think stress, think of just
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: not peaceful, What relationships, what memories? And really everybody asks me, well,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: what do I do once I think of something? Now,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: once I think of something that's really stressing me out,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: maybe it's in my past, what do I do? Science
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: has shown that the brain cannot focus on two things
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: at once, and so you leverage that and you start
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: being grateful. Science has also showed that gratitude has direct
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: effect on your emotional well being and your ability to
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: handle stress. And so as you just spend time meditating
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: on gratitude, things you're grateful for, I can breathe, I
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: can see, I can hear you know, those things start
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: to unravel that not of stress. So that's my number
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: one key for people to undo stress and lower quarters all.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: And I love the ideas, and I love that you
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: brought up gratitude too, because they say gratitude and you know,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: having gratitude and having love in your life and being
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: at peace with yourself is one of the healthiest things
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: you could do for longitivity and to live the fill
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: in life, because you know when you are on that
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: pathway of thinking and you just start letting go of
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: all the other things in life because you can't take
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: when we pass over and we go to the other land,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: you know, we can't take what we.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Have down here.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: So absolutely, you know why you're stressing over it. Our
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: most important thing is in our bodies, and you want
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: to feel good. No one wants to wake up not
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: feeling good, So you know it's it's time to focus
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: on yourself and put yourself on the pedestal and take care.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: And number one, it's just like they say on the airplane,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: you can't help somebody unless you have a mask.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: On it, right, absolutely, absolutely can. I think women struggle
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: with this one a lot more than men, which is
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: the major base of my clientele is older women. They've
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: spent so many years taking care of other people, they
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: forget how to take care of themselves, or they don't
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: invest the time or the finances in just fixing their
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: bodies now that they've helped everyone else, and so it's
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: very very important. Yeah, absolutely, Now.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: How much do sleep, stress, nutrition, hydrate your movement and
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: an emotional health play a role.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: In our lives.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: So I think it plays all the role. Like I
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: think that when it comes down to what is reality,
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: that's reality. It's not you know, the idea that one
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: day I'll die of a heart attack or I'll die
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: of a stroke, or I get cancer, like we live
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: in that future paced like just ephemeral world in our
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: minds sometimes. But the reality is what did I drink
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: last night? You know, did I sleep well last night? Like,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: it's what's happening right now and how we're behaving moment
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: to moment that really matters, and that's what's going to
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: keep us healthy around, for our family, around for our
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: grandkids for the next five ten years. It's not all
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: these fears and these things that we just conjure up
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: in our mind like it is. That is reality. So
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: it's it's absolutely necessity.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, what is one thing people are doing every
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: day that might be hurting them without them or even
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: realizing it.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: I think probably the number one thing that people are
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: doing that is hurting them is I'm torn between eating
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: the wrong thing and drinking the wrong thing, because those
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: two are just so paramount in people's day to day life.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: But when it comes to trying to fix your diet
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: or find the right diet and all that, it gets
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: overwhelming and people freeze. So I always target drinking the
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: right things first, because it's so much easier to just
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: start drinking more water. Drink more water, drink less of
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: anything else, and you're going to immediately see the effects
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: in your body.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Right you know. That's that's so true.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: And you know, we can go we could talk about
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: this on another show, but you know, it drives me nuts,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: is that our food industry is so toxic and now
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: if you go to another country, you know, not even
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: one third of the food is a lot in other
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: countries because it doesn't pass their health you know code,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: because we have so many preservatives and so many bad
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: things in our food that and we you know, even
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: addictive substances that make us addictive to certain foods, right
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: you know, And you know, and it's it's crazy because
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: we are killing the people in our country by giving
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: them a lot of the foods that are on the shelf.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Nobody's doing anything to make a stricter got better. You
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: know food, you know, list of food restrictions in the
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: United States to make the food healthier so people can
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: be healthier and live longer lives, right, you.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Know, right, And you know Americans are starting to wake
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: up to this. You know, the biggest group of people
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: right now is the baby boomers, and the baby boomers
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: are more health conscious right now than any other group
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: in society. And so it's putting a lot of pressure
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: on the food industry. But they're being tricky about it.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: All they're doing is changing the packaging. They're saying the
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: words healthy on the front, but nothing has changed on
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: the inside. Or you know, all these different things where
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: they're putting organic when getting the organic stamp is like
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: just paying somebody so money and getting the so all
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: these things to say, absolutely, our processed food is incredibly,
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: incredibly harmful in a lot of ways. And I'm not
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: a war path kind of nature path, Like I'm not
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: saying don't ever eat processed food, but if you go
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: by an eighty twenty rule, it helps relieve a lot
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: of that guilt and also helps your body continue to heal.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Eighty percent healthy, twenty percent processed ask food sometimes, you know,
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: once a week whatever, but staying balanced in that idea,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: but having an understanding that yes, tons of what we
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: eat is poison. Start reading ingredients. That's what I tell people.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: First thing. Just start reading it. You may not understand it,
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: but just start reading ingredients because eventually you'll come across
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: a news article where a word will pop out and
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: you're like, oh, that was in the ingredients I read yesterday,
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Like yeah, maybe I shouldn't eat that, you know.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: So, you know, most people wait until something actually goes
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: wrong before they take you know, health seriously, why is
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: prevention so important?
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: So it's really the difference between a fifty thousand dollars
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: medical bill and a twenty dollars or over the counter
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: It's really that big a difference. And people just don't
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: think of it in terms of that because prevention seems
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: like a lot of work to them, and so they'd
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: rather just wait for something big to happen. You just
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: have to be logical and take some time to think
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: about the effects of not doing prevention. You don't know
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: whether you're going to survive that big event or not,
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: and so you have to take the time now to
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: invest invest in your health. And I get a lot
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: of clients that are like I can't afford your coaching.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: I can't afford group coaching or anything like that. I'm like, well,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: can you afford a heart attack? Can you afford a stroke?
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: But we don't think of it in terms of that
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: prevention is a savings. They say, what's that saying? That
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: old saying about saving money. I can't think of it
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: right now, But health prevention is a savings. It's a savings.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. So it's like it's that preemptive, keeping
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: that big occurrence from happening is saving you money from
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: your future self. So thinking of it in terms of
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: that is helpful for a lot of people. I think.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. Now, what should people be tracking?
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Are paying attention to you before they get stuck.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: So the main one, like I said, is gut your gut.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Pay attention to your gut. Pay attention to your skin.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: If your skin is dry, if you have to use
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: lotions and things like that a lot, that's a sign
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: of dehydration. Pay attention to your sleep. So those are
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: the big ones right there, gut, skin, and sleep. If
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: those are not doing well, if there's a change in
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: those at all, really start to focus on increasing that
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: area of your life.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Right, I agree.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Now, how can someone start becoming more proactive without becoming
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: obsessed or anxious about their health?
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: So do the little things. Do the simple thing. I
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: believe in this idea of eight laws of health, and
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: they're really easy to remember. It's an acronym called new Start.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: So it's nutrition, yeah, exercise, water, sunshine, temperance, air, rest,
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: and trust in God. So as you look at those,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: some of them are pretty obvious. Air fresh air, breathing deeply, water,
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  Speaker 3: drinking enough water half your body weight announces up to
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  Speaker 3: a gallon a day. Somewhere in there. Rest, eight hours
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: of uninterrupted sleep. So it's the simple things, it really is.
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  Speaker 3: It's the little things that matter when it comes to
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  Speaker 3: your body healing itself. So that's what I teach in
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: my coaching. It's all about the little things. I love that.
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  Speaker 1: Now, well, Joel, and you're also an entrepreneur. What inspired
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  Speaker 1: you to build bpquiz dot com.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? So I really enjoy teaching people, but I wasn't
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  Speaker 3: making any money on it, and so I couldn't keep
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  Speaker 3: doing it consistently. I had to work as a nurse,
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  Speaker 3: but I really wanted to throw myself all into education
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  Speaker 3: and teaching people how to heal their bodies naturally and
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: how to work with your doctors not be doctor Google
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: addict addicts or whatever. And so I began to understand
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  Speaker 3: that people really like quizzes and they really like simple
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: methods that they can do on their own, and so
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  Speaker 3: I packaged the two together. Bpquiz dot. It's just a
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  Speaker 3: simple quiz that talks about the blood pressure triangle and
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  Speaker 3: which part of that triangle you are struggling with and
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  Speaker 3: which one you need to focus on. That was the
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: other piece I forgot to say is that people think
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  Speaker 3: that blood pressure has to do with your heart. It's
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: not a heart problem. Blood pressure is not a heart problem.
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  Speaker 3: You can address the issues that are affecting blood pressure,
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  Speaker 3: but it's not a heart problem. In fact, if your
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  Speaker 3: heart is failing, your blood pressure is low, we put
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: you on a pressor, on dopamine and all these other
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: medications to raise your blood pressure because your heart is failing.
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  Speaker 3: So your heart's not failing, it's some other part of
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  Speaker 3: your body that's causing that pressure to be high. And
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: so that's what that quiz shows. You know which part
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  Speaker 3: of the triangle you need to focus on. And then
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  Speaker 3: I immediately sign you up for this mini course of
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  Speaker 3: emails that comes to your inbox and teaches you very
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  Speaker 3: specifically some things you can do at home to start
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  Speaker 3: lowering that number, and then the conversations you can have
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  Speaker 3: with your doctor, like, Hey, you know, my blood pressure
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  Speaker 3: is looking better. I've been walking, I've been drinking water.
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  Speaker 3: I've got you know, cut some of the caffeine. I
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: don't need so much the topra lol, I don't need
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: so much the center pro. What do you think? And
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: the doctor's gonna be like, yeah, I see your numbers.
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  Speaker 3: They look great. Let's cut that in half, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And people are thrilled messages on TikTok all the time.
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  Speaker 3: I've been watching your videos and I did some of
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  Speaker 3: the stuff you said. I incorporated magnesium in my diet,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, I'm walking, I'm drinking water, and my
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  Speaker 3: doctor's taken me off one of my pills, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: just ecstatic, like yeah, it's simple stuff. So that's what
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  Speaker 3: I That's why I created that. And people are just
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  Speaker 3: overwhelmed with the idea that blood pressure is not something
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  Speaker 3: that they're stuck with for the rest of their life,
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: that what they can do helps their body heal and
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  Speaker 3: address the causes and it. It's just been extremely successful though.
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  Speaker 3: My TikTok following, my Facebook following has grown considerably over
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  Speaker 3: the last few months. I think I'm over four hundred
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: thousand followers now. So I'm officially retired from nursing. I'm
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: ecstatic about that as well. But that was what it
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: was about, is really just creating something of value for
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: the people that I care about and older Americans with
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: high blood pressure. Close to my heart spent much of
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  Speaker 3: my time in cardiac ICU and telemetry floors and it's
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  Speaker 3: a big problem, and it's a problem that people can
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  Speaker 3: really help lower some of those numbers. Naturally.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. I love that.
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  Speaker 1: Now let's make this very practical. If someone is listening
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  Speaker 1: right now and they want to better understand their health,
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  Speaker 1: where should they start.
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  Speaker 3: Well, free stuff. I always tell people start with the
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: free stuff. Go on YouTube, Go on TikTok. I have
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: hundreds and hundreds of videos. Obviously there's other, but be careful,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: you know, don't listen to everybody. Do your own research.
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  Speaker 3: Listen with a lens of Okay, this person is not
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: telling the truth until you believe that that is not
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: the case, Like, don't go into it except swallowing everything
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: people tell you, because that's just a whole nother trap.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: But find reputable sources and start educating yourself with the
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: free stuff, and then go to places like dpquiz dot
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: com where you get a free quiz that starts to
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: show you some things that you can further identify and
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: work on. And always always keep in mind what's the cause?
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  Speaker 3: Where is the cause making this thing my reality? So
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: those are just a few tips that are easy to implement.
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  Speaker 3: Anybody can do it no matter how much money you
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: have or don't have, you know, because that's a big, one,
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: big barrier for people. I just don't have enough money
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: to be healthy. Do you have enough money to be sick?
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  Speaker 3: Is the real question?
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Now, What are the three questions they should ask themselves
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: or their healthcare provider?
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  Speaker 3: What's my biggest problem? Like, if I were to analyze
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: how I feel, you know what my sickness level is,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: what's my biggest problem? The second thing is why do
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: I have that biggest problem?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Like if I were to figure out just when did
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: it start? What was happening in my life around the
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: time that it started? That's question number two. And then
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: question number three is what's something I can do today
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  Speaker 3: for free to start working on that? Why you know,
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: once you've identified your biggest call or your biggest problem
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: and maybe a thing or two of why you have
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: that problem, what's something you can do today? And I
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: promise you there's always something you can do in your diet,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: your drinking habits, and in your sleep habits that will
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: help any problem.
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  Speaker 2: That you one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: Now, what is one small change they can make this
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: week that could support better blood pressure and overall wellness?
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, and I'm not saying this to sell you anything,
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: but go to bpquiz dot com just as a first
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: insight into what blood pressure, the blood pressure triangle really
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: is about and which part of that triangle is your problem.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: That knowledge in itself is going to be so liberating
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: for you that think that it's genetic, that you're stuck
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: with it forever, that it's a heart problem that you
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: can't do anything about. And so do that. Start listening
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: to some of the things that I'm talking about when
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: it comes to finding the cause. How to find the cause?
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: What are some supplements? Oh, and real quick, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: one of those natural paths that wants to get you
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: off pills onto supplements for the rest of your life.
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  Speaker 3: I believe in true healing. So if it comes down
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: to healing something for good, I mean it's coming off
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: of supplements as well, coming off of working with a
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: natural path as well. That's true healing. And so do
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: promote some supplements to help people make that transition. But
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: I don't want people thinking I'm a nutraceutical like natural
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: path either. That's not what I'm about. So I'm a
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: very holistic approach to simple methods of allowing the body
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  Speaker 3: to heal itself.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Joel, there is one thing you want people to
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: understand about their health, their symptoms and their bodies worn
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: in signs.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: What would that be?
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: That it's very important to understand that no one will
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: ever really get how you're feeling, no matter how much
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: you explain it, no matter how many analogies you come
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: up with. No one is ever going to be in
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: your choose or feeling what you feel. It's like trying
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: to explain to somebody what you see out of your eyes.
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  Speaker 3: It's never going to happen, and so you have to
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: give people around you grace. You have to give yourself
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: grace and just understand that if you don't feel right,
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: trust that no one else may understand that. Labs may
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: not show it, people may not see it, but trust
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: your feeling that something's just not right and I need
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: to assess it, fix it, find the cause, do something
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: about it today.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. Can you tell us about the services
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: that you provide and where they can find you?
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm on TikTok. Brave Works are in on TikTok.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: I'm on Facebook as well, same Brave Works are in
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: also Instagram, Think Brave Works are in and again. Bpquiz
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: dot com is my free quiz for everybody to really
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: just analyze their blood pressure triangle. Which one's really stimulating
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: the blood pressure? And we are putting together. We talked
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: about hormones a lot my wife and I. My wife's
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: also a natural path, she's focuses on women's hormones and
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: so her and I are putting together and live event
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: in Louisville, Kentucky, June twenty fourth, twenty fifth, twenty twenty
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: six with Barbara Neil herself. Many of your audience probably
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: know her and she's going to be there and we're
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: going to be talking about how women's hormones is really
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: running the show in America, especially blood pressure, diabetes, pcos,
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: all the menopausal symptoms and how to just how to
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: understand it first. And then what's in your kitchen, what's
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: you know able to start reversing some of that naturally. Yeah,
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: take my quiz. I'll send you that information in the
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: email from the quiz as well the event, my coaching
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: options and things like that. But that free quiz is
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: just really important for people to start. It's free, and
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: it really just helps you start the journey of understanding
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: the cause. And that's that's all I care about. That's
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: all I care.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: And for the listeners out there, your body is always communicating.
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  Speaker 1: The question is whether you're listening early enough. You know,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: blood pressure, fatigue, stress, weight changes, poor sleep, and feeling
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: off are not the things to ignore. They may be
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: signs that your body is asking for support, clarity, and
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: a deeper look at what really is going on. Joel,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I want to thank you so much for being here
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: and for helping people think differently about their health. And
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: if this episode has helped you make sure you follow
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: the show and share it with someone who needs to
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: hear it. I really do appreciate you coming on the
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: show today and really sharing your knowledge with us. I
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: think it's so important, especially in today's society, where you
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: see high blood pressure is on the rise, you see
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: diabetes is tripled, you see you know, people are having
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: so many different issues, and we need people like yourself
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: who can help people, guide people, give them direction, and
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: really put them on a path that it's going to
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: help them get back to the way they want to feel.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: So I really thank you so much, especially if you're
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: talking about high blood pressure today and really making people aware.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: And I encourage our listeners to take the quiz, find
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: out where you're at, and find out if there's something
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: you could do to make yourself even feel better than
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: what you feel already.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you so much, Joel.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I hope you'll come on again and we could talk
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: some more, and I appreciate you.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Stacey, it's been an honor. You
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: have a great day, you too,