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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Breaking new Tonight, a crack in the disappearance and dismemberment
- 0:11Speaker 2: murder of a beautiful ten girl Shawdey Robinson did the
- 0:18Speaker 2: spoiled brat sun of a Milwaukee millionaire, Lure shaw Day
- 0:24Speaker 2: on a date turned murder.
- 0:28Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace.
- 0:29Speaker 2: This is Crime Stories and I want to thank you
- 0:31Speaker 2: for being with us.
- 0:32Speaker 3: Five point thirty pm, April second, Cutahey Police respond to
- 0:36Speaker 3: a call along Lake Michigan at Warnemont Park, a popular
- 0:39Speaker 3: recreation area. A parkgoer reports finding a severed human leg.
- 0:43Speaker 3: According to a post from cuta Haey Sheriff's office, the
- 0:46Speaker 3: limb was found in or near the water east of
- 0:49Speaker 3: the golf course near the pump house. There are steep
- 0:52Speaker 3: cliffs leading to the shoreline in that area, and large
- 0:55Speaker 3: numbers of police canvassed the area and kept away gawkers.
- 0:58Speaker 4: Three days after the Warnamont Park discovery, another call to
- 1:01Speaker 4: police about a severed body part. Eleven miles away from
- 1:05Speaker 4: the shores of Lake Michigan in a Milwaukee West Side neighborhood,
- 1:08Speaker 4: a body part is found at a playground. Within twenty
- 1:11Speaker 4: four hours, police respond to another call about the discovery
- 1:15Speaker 4: of human remains on Saturday, just a few blocks from
- 1:19Speaker 4: the same Westside Milwaukee area as Friday's discovery, police set
- 1:23Speaker 4: up a crime scene near a park.
- 1:26Speaker 2: After a car is found on fire. Paired with a
- 1:33Speaker 2: pet tribute blanket found near some of the human remains,
- 1:41Speaker 2: police begin to focus on a beautiful young teen girl,
- 1:48Speaker 2: shaw Day Listen.
- 1:51Speaker 5: Shade Robinson graduates with honors a semester early from Riverside
- 1:54Speaker 5: High School. She continues her education at Milwaukee Area Technical College,
- 1:59Speaker 5: working towards her a degree in criminal justice. In fact,
- 2:02Speaker 5: she's only a month away from graduating, but Robinson hasn't
- 2:05Speaker 5: been spending all her times in the books. She works
- 2:08Speaker 5: through high school and college at the Pizza Shuttle on
- 2:10Speaker 5: Milwaukee's Lower East Side. She makes such a difference at
- 2:13Speaker 5: work that her coworkers say Robinson is considered the heart
- 2:16Speaker 5: of Pizza Shuttle. Former owner Mark Gold says she is
- 2:19Speaker 5: the type of employee who never calls out and is
- 2:21Speaker 5: loved by customers and our coworkers. Robinson is heavily influenced
- 2:25Speaker 5: by her family, with many family members serving in the military.
- 2:28Speaker 5: Shade Robinson wants to look at career opportunities available for
- 2:31Speaker 5: her in the United States Air Force.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Joining me is a very special guest, along with an
- 2:36Speaker 2: all star panel. Seriously the brain Trust, but just hearing
- 2:43Speaker 2: hold of Zapple speaking from crime online dot Com about Shade,
- 2:47Speaker 2: She's everything you want.
- 2:51Speaker 1: Your child to pay.
- 2:53Speaker 2: She's this fantastic student, she is working while she's going
- 3:01Speaker 2: to school, very close family, tons of relatives in the military,
- 3:09Speaker 2: and she is inspired to consider the US Air Force.
- 3:16Speaker 2: I mean, this is the.
- 3:18Speaker 1: Girl we all want to have.
- 3:22Speaker 2: I remember my grandmother. I would give her my school
- 3:25Speaker 2: picture every year and she could say, I can just
- 3:27Speaker 2: see see the mischief coming out of your eyes.
- 3:32Speaker 1: Look at this girl. Can't you just see.
- 3:34Speaker 2: The joy, just the love of life, crackling smart, just
- 3:43Speaker 2: beaming out of her. How in the world did she
- 3:50Speaker 2: collide cross paths with an alleged spoiled brat killer, the
- 3:57Speaker 2: son of a Milwaukee millionaire, a former ex high school
- 4:05Speaker 2: football star now a thirty something meters bartender.
- 4:11Speaker 1: In addition to.
- 4:12Speaker 2: Our all star panel of trial lawyer Eric Fattis, renowned psychologist,
- 4:17Speaker 2: doctor John Delatory, death investigator professor Joe Scott Morgan, and
- 4:23Speaker 2: investigative crime reporter Alexis Tereschuk. A special guest joining me.
- 4:29Speaker 2: This is Shawde's mother, Miss Gina Scarborough. You know, miss
- 4:36Speaker 2: Miss Scarborough. Whenever I have to travel for work, my
- 4:39Speaker 2: backpack is so heavy because I have all these mementos
- 4:44Speaker 2: of the twins.
- 4:44Speaker 1: I carry with me and set up wherever I am.
- 4:48Speaker 6: I know I heard you talking about your swins a lot.
- 4:50Speaker 2: It's just killing me to think that you have this
- 4:53Speaker 2: picture instead of your girl.
- 4:56Speaker 1: First of all, tell me about shaw Day Shady.
- 5:00Speaker 6: This is beautiful, beautiful soul.
- 5:04Speaker 7: I know that my kids were very special and different.
- 5:09Speaker 7: They my parents raised me, They raised us. We are
- 5:15Speaker 7: light workers. We put out positive energy, we exert we
- 5:20Speaker 7: help others. I'm a community advocate as a personal way
- 5:26Speaker 7: of my life, the way I live. I've worked for others.
- 5:30Speaker 7: I help others my whole life. I've raised my daughters
- 5:33Speaker 7: that way. My daughters have excelled. I have two daughters.
- 5:38Speaker 8: This has called so much emotional effect to my family
- 5:41Speaker 8: or her. My parents who love my baby so much,
- 5:46Speaker 8: her grandparents, her uncles, her aunties are the community. Everyone
- 5:51Speaker 8: has pulled up. This has affected many people in Milwaukee.
- 5:56Speaker 8: I'm come here today.
- 5:58Speaker 7: This is the hardest thing I would ever have to
- 5:59Speaker 7: do in my life to speak Shaddy's voice.
- 6:03Speaker 6: Shadday was a beautiful soul. She was an amazing girl. Nancy.
- 6:08Speaker 7: Everything he spoke is exactly what my daughter exerted. I
- 6:12Speaker 7: couldn't have asked for any better daughter. There was things
- 6:17Speaker 7: my daughter did that many adults were not even able
- 6:22Speaker 7: to accomplish in their lifetimes. And I'll be forty three
- 6:27Speaker 7: in a week. My birthday's life twenty seven Shoty's birthdays
- 6:32Speaker 7: on Mad the tenth. I had her on Mother's Day.
- 6:36Speaker 6: The son of a.
- 6:37Speaker 7: I'm gonna watch my language on this platform.
- 6:41Speaker 6: But the son of a took my daughter from me
- 6:47Speaker 6: a month before. She's graduating with her Associate of Artist degree.
- 6:51Speaker 7: She works so hard. She's a full time student. She
- 6:54Speaker 7: has two full time jobs. She has her own little
- 6:57Speaker 7: bachelor red apartment. She does to stay in a college
- 7:01Speaker 7: dorm campus. She has her own bacherette department. She has
- 7:04Speaker 7: her own car.
- 7:05Speaker 6: She pays all of her own pills. This is trauma sizing, Nancy.
- 7:11Speaker 6: I never expect this is the pull up on my
- 7:14Speaker 6: front door. This is a normal.
- 7:18Speaker 7: This is a twenty twenty four Jeffrey Dahmer. I need
- 7:22Speaker 7: him held accountable. I need justice for Shada. Hey, there
- 7:27Speaker 7: has been a lot of in the many black and
- 7:30Speaker 7: brown girls that I've been called missing in Milwaukee for
- 7:34Speaker 7: a moment, and all of them are going to be
- 7:37Speaker 7: held accountable now because they put they messed with the
- 7:40Speaker 7: wrong family, they mess with the wrong family.
- 7:44Speaker 6: Because we're not gonna.
- 7:45Speaker 7: Stick wide, and we're not gonna sit still, and we're
- 7:47Speaker 7: gonna call all of them out, and we're gonna speak
- 7:49Speaker 7: for the whole community, because I'm not about to sit
- 7:52Speaker 7: down and I'm not about to sit still on this one.
- 7:54Speaker 7: It's justice for Shada, Nancy. It's justice, Miss Scarborough.
- 8:00Speaker 2: Like anything anything I or anybody on this panel could
- 8:07Speaker 2: say right now, it pales compared to what you just said.
- 8:16Speaker 2: And believe me, Miss Garborough, this story of Shahday has
- 8:23Speaker 2: not just touched people in Milwaukee.
- 8:26Speaker 1: It has touched people around the world. And when you.
- 8:30Speaker 2: Say you're not going to sit back, neither are we
- 8:35Speaker 2: until there is justice for your girl and the other
- 8:40Speaker 2: missing and murdered girls across Milwaukee. They're not all just missing,
- 8:48Speaker 2: they're dead. Many of them are dead exactly. Guys with
- 8:54Speaker 2: me is Shadai's mother, who is so much pain, but
- 9:02Speaker 2: she is joining us tonight to speak out for Shah Day.
- 9:08Speaker 1: What happened? What led up to this night?
- 9:16Speaker 6: Nancy. The last time I spoke to my daughter was
- 9:19Speaker 6: on Easter Sunday.
- 9:20Speaker 7: Okay, we've seen her. She came by my parents' home.
- 9:25Speaker 7: We spent the Sunday together. This was Easter Sunday.
- 9:29Speaker 6: Okay.
- 9:31Speaker 7: I cooked for them, both of my daughters. We all
- 9:34Speaker 7: met by my parents' house where I'm currying the ad.
- 9:37Speaker 7: We all commute here. All my girls are busy. They're
- 9:42Speaker 7: my youngest is sixteen. They have a lot of activities.
- 9:44Speaker 7: They're working, they go to school. I have very successful
- 9:48Speaker 7: and independent, self sufficient darts. We harmy her nobody. We
- 9:53Speaker 7: just put out and help others into the universe.
- 9:56Speaker 6: Okay. So I seen like she is. It's just very
- 10:00Speaker 6: It's like she's a nineteen twenty year old young lady.
- 10:04Speaker 7: Okay, we all at this age. We have a lot
- 10:07Speaker 7: of friends. She's not in a relationship. She didn't have
- 10:10Speaker 7: a boyfriend. She wasn't tied down to anyone. She's single
- 10:13Speaker 7: and she's dating. I knew she hung out with her
- 10:16Speaker 7: coworkers at Pizza Shuttle. They went out to little bars
- 10:21Speaker 7: and hung out. Sometimes. I'm a very concerned mother. I'm
- 10:24Speaker 7: very overperspective. I always would put in shodday's ear, be careful.
- 10:29Speaker 7: I don't trust these people around Milwaukee. I'm just that
- 10:33Speaker 7: exercype of mom and my daughter's always mom.
- 10:36Speaker 6: Just sit back. I try to give them space, let
- 10:38Speaker 6: them be independent.
- 10:40Speaker 7: But I just been having this vibe and intuition and
- 10:43Speaker 7: I have been wanting her just to like not hang
- 10:45Speaker 7: out and.
- 10:46Speaker 6: Go out to places for some reason.
- 10:49Speaker 7: And I don't know exactly, and I'm still trying to
- 10:51Speaker 7: find out the facts, but I know that this type
- 10:55Speaker 7: of this individual, and I want to make clarity because
- 10:59Speaker 7: there's been a lot of trolls. There's been a lot
- 11:02Speaker 7: of media I can't interact and deal with. I'm grieving
- 11:05Speaker 7: my daughter right now. I want respects, I need time.
- 11:10Speaker 7: I'm gonna this is about advocating not only for my daughter,
- 11:13Speaker 7: but for all of the young women that are missing,
- 11:16Speaker 7: and for the actions to have been taken to find
- 11:19Speaker 7: my daughter. And there's a lot of information, but I
- 11:24Speaker 7: need the community and people to know that my daughter
- 11:28Speaker 7: helps others. She was a positive spirit. This this like
- 11:33Speaker 7: they they're claiming this was the first day, Like you know,
- 11:37Speaker 7: it's just a first day.
- 11:38Speaker 6: I don't this dude, never she never mentioned this.
- 11:41Speaker 1: Dude, Well, we're learning a little bit about that. Take
- 11:45Speaker 1: a listen to Dave Matt Crime Online.
- 11:47Speaker 3: A month away from turning twenty, Shade Robinson tells a
- 11:50Speaker 3: maintenance worker at her building that she's excited about her
- 11:53Speaker 3: first date with thirty three year old Maxwell Anderson. Robinson
- 11:56Speaker 3: texts Anderson about where to eat and tells him she's seafood.
- 12:01Speaker 3: Anderson takesha day to a place he used to work,
- 12:03Speaker 3: the Twisted Fishermen. After dinner, they spend some more time together,
- 12:07Speaker 3: having drinks at Dukes on Water. The couple leaves Dukes
- 12:10Speaker 3: together around nine pm.
- 12:19Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
- 12:25Speaker 2: Straight out to Alexis Tereshung, joining US Crime online dot
- 12:28Speaker 2: Com investigative reporter. I want to make sure that we're
- 12:33Speaker 2: right about that this was at most a first maybe
- 12:39Speaker 2: a second, but most likely a first date, probably nothing
- 12:43Speaker 2: that she was.
- 12:44Speaker 1: Telling everybody about.
- 12:47Speaker 2: Tell me how we know, Alexis that the two actually
- 12:52Speaker 2: went out because reports are in Our investigation tells us
- 12:57Speaker 2: that there may have been either surveillance footage or witnesses
- 13:04Speaker 2: placing them at Twisted Fishermen, where he worked, and then
- 13:09Speaker 2: later at Dukes on water. How do we know that
- 13:13Speaker 2: they were together that night they met there.
- 13:15Speaker 9: There are multiple surveillance cameras outside these restaurants, both of them,
- 13:20Speaker 9: that show her arriving walking through the east side of
- 13:24Speaker 9: the restaurant. He arrived on the west side of There's
- 13:27Speaker 9: such good video footage of this. This is just such
- 13:30Speaker 9: a good helpful part of the case. They go there together.
- 13:33Speaker 9: He used to work there at the Twisted Fishermen. So
- 13:36Speaker 9: the bartender there spoke with police and said they came in,
- 13:41Speaker 9: they sat at the bar together, they had a drink.
- 13:43Speaker 9: It seemed friendly and casual, nothing that would alert the
- 13:47Speaker 9: bartender to anything that was wrong. He said, they just
- 13:51Speaker 9: had a few drinks and they left within an hour.
- 13:53Speaker 9: They then, according to surveillance, leave together surveillance videos to
- 13:57Speaker 9: the next place.
- 13:58Speaker 2: Joining us an all star panel to make sense of
- 14:00Speaker 2: what we know right now. But to missus Scarborough, this
- 14:04Speaker 2: is shaw Day's mother, Miss Scarborough, when did you really
- 14:08Speaker 2: I know that right now you're at your parents' home.
- 14:12Speaker 1: I know that shaw Day, as.
- 14:14Speaker 2: You beautifully described it, had her own little bachelorette pad
- 14:19Speaker 2: that she paid for from her two jobs. She's working
- 14:23Speaker 2: while getting her college degree. Amazing So when did somebody
- 14:30Speaker 2: realize they needed to call you and ask where's shaw day?
- 14:35Speaker 7: It wasn't until Wednesday, Nancy, I like you, It was
- 14:41Speaker 7: a whole twenty four hours. I just had this Billy again,
- 14:45Speaker 7: like we spent. The last time I seen her was
- 14:47Speaker 7: on that Sunday for Easter. Everything was good, it was
- 14:50Speaker 7: a normal family visit. We all had a good interaction.
- 14:54Speaker 7: Then Monday, she facetimed me. That morning Monday, she facetimed me.
- 14:59Speaker 7: She was getting ready for work and we had a
- 15:01Speaker 7: good interaction. She's like mommy, like you know, so I
- 15:04Speaker 7: had some more you know, like getting dressed.
- 15:07Speaker 6: I was at my job. I went to work that morning,
- 15:10Speaker 6: I got off.
- 15:11Speaker 7: As soon as I got home from work, I was
- 15:14Speaker 7: receiving calls from like my.
- 15:17Speaker 6: My, my mother, and my brother. We were all concerned
- 15:20Speaker 6: because we.
- 15:20Speaker 7: All have the three sixty location app. Okay, we all
- 15:25Speaker 7: shared it as the family. So I have the app
- 15:27Speaker 7: shared with me, my mom, both of my daughters. Then
- 15:31Speaker 7: my daughter also shares shut ay. My oldest daughter also
- 15:34Speaker 7: shares the app with additional friends and like other groups.
- 15:39Speaker 7: But I have my own group with her, myself, my mother,
- 15:42Speaker 7: and my youngest darter. So we've seen her like this
- 15:46Speaker 7: location Monday, like again, Monday night she I seen her
- 15:50Speaker 7: getting I mean Monday morning, I've seen her getting ready
- 15:53Speaker 7: for work.
- 15:54Speaker 6: She facetimed me. Then she that evening around three forty.
- 15:58Speaker 7: Five, four o'clock, I got a text message from her
- 16:00Speaker 7: asking a cash apt for fifteen dollars. My daughters does
- 16:04Speaker 7: not ask me for money like she has. My daughter
- 16:07Speaker 7: makes more money to me. Literally, she's that was that boss, okay,
- 16:12Speaker 7: So like those in a big bill, I'm just that
- 16:15Speaker 7: type of mom. You need something, I'm gonna cash appy.
- 16:18Speaker 7: It's very strange that she asked me for fifteen dollars.
- 16:20Speaker 2: Yet you know what's very odd about that, Miss Scarborough.
- 16:23Speaker 2: It reminds me of when Gabby Petito went missing and
- 16:28Speaker 2: her family started getting texts that didn't sound like her.
- 16:32Speaker 2: For instance, she wrote about her grandfather. She texted about
- 16:37Speaker 2: her grandfather, but she called him.
- 16:38Speaker 1: By his full name. That would be like me writing.
- 16:44Speaker 2: My producer right here Jackie and going hi Jackie, how's
- 16:47Speaker 2: Jackie today?
- 16:48Speaker 1: It just doesn't make any just wrong.
- 16:52Speaker 2: So you get this test asking for fifteen dollars, and
- 16:55Speaker 2: Shade would never have done that.
- 16:57Speaker 1: I mean, if she needed she.
- 16:59Speaker 2: Got a charge Apple pay you name it so you
- 17:03Speaker 2: knew right then something was wrong and then this take
- 17:07Speaker 2: a listen to Chief Jeffrey Norman.
- 17:10Speaker 10: Saturday April six, MPD continued the search of in the
- 17:15Speaker 10: area and located additional human remains on the railroad tracks.
- 17:20Speaker 10: Learn you know. Saturday April six, MPD returned to the
- 17:23Speaker 10: area when Miss Robinson's family located her blanket. At this time,
- 17:29Speaker 10: do you take thus located additional human remains.
- 17:32Speaker 11: According to court documents, the remains found Saturday included human
- 17:36Speaker 11: flesh and a foot. The foot had pink nail polish,
- 17:40Speaker 11: possibly mounting the polish on the leg found days earlier.
- 17:43Speaker 1: Another thing that reallyncy.
- 17:45Speaker 6: Can I say something real quisly?
- 17:46Speaker 1: Yes?
- 17:47Speaker 7: Please do I just, I just I just want to
- 17:49Speaker 7: clarify that the community. I want to make this clear, okay,
- 17:54Speaker 7: and I'm going to be holding all accountable that have
- 17:56Speaker 7: been I'm not blaming or attacking people. There have been
- 17:59Speaker 7: to tech business sergeants that I've been pulling up selectively
- 18:02Speaker 7: on my team. There has been the community. There have
- 18:05Speaker 7: been active members advocating for this case. I know it
- 18:08Speaker 7: is affecting many, but there is some faulty things that
- 18:11Speaker 7: have been being handled.
- 18:12Speaker 6: Okay, First of all, I want to.
- 18:14Speaker 7: Correct all of the chief executives that are pulling up
- 18:18Speaker 7: from my county and my community that are not pronouncing
- 18:21Speaker 7: my daughter's name correctly. I respectfully thank you Nancy Grace
- 18:25Speaker 7: and your team. The way you guys pulled up respectfully,
- 18:28Speaker 7: asked me my name, ask me my daughter's name, and
- 18:31Speaker 7: asked how to pronounce it. I respectfully thank you for that.
- 18:34Speaker 7: I wanted to tell you that first of all and foremost.
- 18:37Speaker 6: Because a lot of these a lot of people.
- 18:39Speaker 7: Are pulling up and being disrespectful, and this is my
- 18:42Speaker 7: own community.
- 18:42Speaker 6: The mayor, the chief executive. They have not pulled up
- 18:45Speaker 6: to my front porch.
- 18:46Speaker 7: They have not told me they're sorry, they have not
- 18:48Speaker 7: sent their conposis. They're on the news talking stop and
- 18:51Speaker 7: the community are the members who found my daughter's remains
- 18:55Speaker 7: and other items the second and third and the foe time.
- 18:59Speaker 7: They the public was not doing a job the first
- 19:02Speaker 7: time correctly for the community to keep kind of stuff
- 19:06Speaker 7: and doing their own search parties.
- 19:07Speaker 1: Because I'm too weak to go out there and search
- 19:09Speaker 1: for my daughter.
- 19:10Speaker 6: I'm sorry, Nancy, Don't be sorry.
- 19:13Speaker 1: Don't be sorry.
- 19:15Speaker 2: You're right and I got to tell you something, Miss Scarborough.
- 19:18Speaker 2: Guys you were hearing Chade's mother. I always do that
- 19:24Speaker 2: every case, and I did it with every case I
- 19:26Speaker 2: ever investigated a prosecuted.
- 19:28Speaker 1: And this is.
- 19:29Speaker 2: Why this may mean something to you, Miss Scarborough, because
- 19:33Speaker 2: when my fiancee was murdered at his funeral, it didn't
- 19:37Speaker 2: make me angry or mad, but I remember in the
- 19:41Speaker 2: middle of the funeral.
- 19:41Speaker 1: I noticed it.
- 19:43Speaker 2: The pastor kept referring to me as Mary throughout Keith's entire.
- 19:49Speaker 1: Funeral, over and over and over. I mean, I wasn't.
- 19:52Speaker 2: Angry, but I remember it to this day, and it's
- 19:57Speaker 2: just one of those things that just stick with you.
- 20:01Speaker 2: I know you don't care what any of these politicians say,
- 20:05Speaker 2: but for Pete's sake, at least get the name right.
- 20:08Speaker 1: At least do that much.
- 20:10Speaker 2: Guys we're talking about is so hard for everybody on
- 20:14Speaker 2: this panel to talk about this with Chadai's mom with us,
- 20:20Speaker 2: But she says she wants to justice and justice comes
- 20:23Speaker 2: at a price, let me tell you that, and that
- 20:25Speaker 2: price is suffering, and she is suffering right now. But
- 20:29Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about these facts because these facts
- 20:34Speaker 2: are what I pray to God. Are going to put
- 20:36Speaker 2: the son of a Milwaukee millionaire behind bars.
- 20:41Speaker 1: For life because I believe in DNA.
- 20:44Speaker 2: DNA cannot lie, science cannot lie. Joe Scott Morgan, we
- 20:51Speaker 2: just heard very upsetting details about fingernail and toenail polish
- 20:57Speaker 2: on the remains guys. Joseph Scott Morgan, renowned professor of
- 21:02Speaker 2: forensics Jacksonville State University, which has an incredible criminal justice program.
- 21:07Speaker 2: We've re enacted several crimes together. He is a professor forensics.
- 21:14Speaker 2: He is the author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon,
- 21:18Speaker 2: and now he's the host of a hit series, Body
- 21:20Speaker 2: Bags with Joe Scott Morgan. Joe Scott, you know, we
- 21:24Speaker 2: talk about DNA all the time, how you can match
- 21:28Speaker 2: this and that, and every.
- 21:31Speaker 1: Action has a reaction and leaves a trace.
- 21:34Speaker 2: But when it comes down to human talk, like the
- 21:38Speaker 2: color of Chade's tonyill polish matches the color of her
- 21:43Speaker 2: fingernail polish, we're talking about a severed leg. Somebody at
- 21:49Speaker 2: the medical examiners went, look the polish matches.
- 21:53Speaker 1: I don't need DNA. A jury's not gonna need DNA,
- 21:56Speaker 1: but they're gonna have it.
- 21:58Speaker 12: Why because every contact, as you mentioned, does in fact
- 22:02Speaker 12: leave a trace. We've known that for over one hundred
- 22:04Speaker 12: years now, and it's coming to fruition here in the
- 22:07Speaker 12: world in which we inhabit. You know, you think about
- 22:11Speaker 12: things like tool marks and all these other identifiers fingerprints traditionally,
- 22:15Speaker 12: But DNA is going to play a big role in this,
- 22:18Speaker 12: and we're talking about proximity Nancy. With the alleged perpetrator here,
- 22:23Speaker 12: he will have had a very intimate contact, unfortunately, with Shade.
- 22:29Speaker 12: My apologies, missus Scarborough. I know that this is very painful,
- 22:34Speaker 12: but there will have been an intimate contact on some level.
- 22:37Speaker 12: Just this idea of dismemberment alone is going to leave
- 22:42Speaker 12: a trace behind, and it's not necessarily his trace on
- 22:46Speaker 12: her as much as it will be her trace on
- 22:50Speaker 12: him potentially, and ultimately it could be her shade that
- 22:57Speaker 12: actually brings him to justice. That's one redemptive point along this,
- 23:04Speaker 12: because her DNA will be found on him and it
- 23:07Speaker 12: will be pointing a big, accusing finger back at him.
- 23:11Speaker 13: On Wednesday, April the fourth, our investigation led to a
- 23:16Speaker 13: person of interest, Maxwell Stephen Anderson, who lives in the
- 23:21Speaker 13: thirty one hundred block of South thirty ninth Street, where
- 23:26Speaker 13: He was arrested after a traffic stop near the home.
- 23:32Speaker 13: A search warrant was conducted.
- 23:35Speaker 11: That search warrant unearthed evidence of blood in the home.
- 23:38Speaker 11: Investigators reportedly found blood on a comforter and on the
- 23:41Speaker 11: wall of a stairwell leading down to the basement. No
- 23:44Speaker 11: details have been released on whose blood was recovered.
- 23:47Speaker 2: You were just hearing the Milwaukee City Sheriff Danita Ball
- 23:52Speaker 2: and Sydney Sumner chronell line.
- 23:54Speaker 1: Not only did blood evidence.
- 23:57Speaker 2: Emerge in his home, this guy, this idiot technical legal term,
- 24:05Speaker 2: left a phone trail.
- 24:07Speaker 1: A mile white.
- 24:08Speaker 2: You know, when you look at his home, you think, wow,
- 24:12Speaker 2: beautiful yard, immaculately kept.
- 24:15Speaker 1: You know why not because of him?
- 24:18Speaker 2: Thirty three year old former high school football star. He's
- 24:23Speaker 2: a nepo baby, nepotism baby. This thirty three year old guy,
- 24:29Speaker 2: Maxwell Anderson has a millionaire dad who ran a Milwaukee
- 24:34Speaker 2: insurance brokerage firm. Now what do we know about him?
- 24:40Speaker 2: Alexis Tereschuk, He.
- 24:42Speaker 1: Has a rap sheet.
- 24:43Speaker 9: He has been arrested for domestic I'm sorry, not just arrested,
- 24:47Speaker 9: convicted for domestic abuse, for disorderly conduct, and for drunk driving.
- 24:53Speaker 9: This guy has a rap sheet. A mile long. He
- 24:56Speaker 9: is not an upstanding citizen of the community. And as
- 24:59Speaker 9: I said, these are not just arrests we're waiting to
- 25:01Speaker 9: hear from. He has been convicted of all three of
- 25:04Speaker 9: these things.
- 25:04Speaker 2: Did you just say he's not an upstanding member of
- 25:07Speaker 2: the community.
- 25:08Speaker 1: You know what?
- 25:10Speaker 12: That is?
- 25:11Speaker 2: Certainly putting perfume on the pig. Guys, listen to Sidney
- 25:16Speaker 2: Sumner Crime Online following what Alexis has just told us.
- 25:20Speaker 11: Growing up the son of a millionaire businessman, Maxwell Anderson
- 25:23Speaker 11: was a Catholic school prep football star with a bright future.
- 25:27Speaker 11: Anderson works for his millionaire dad's insurance companies with limited success,
- 25:31Speaker 11: but when his father moves to Florida, Anderson's days in
- 25:33Speaker 11: Milwaukee working as a bartender. A former co worker of Anderson,
- 25:37Speaker 11: Samantha Brenner, describes Anderson as erratic, sometimes getting drunk while
- 25:41Speaker 11: bartending at Victor's nightclub. A friend describes Anderson as childish
- 25:45Speaker 11: and having quite the temper.
- 25:47Speaker 2: Joining me right now is renowned forensic psychologist and mediator
- 25:52Speaker 2: doctor John Adelatory now Delatory.
- 25:56Speaker 1: No if it's to bartenders.
- 25:58Speaker 2: My brilliant niece tended bar for a while while she
- 26:03Speaker 2: was in graduate school. Long story short, what do you
- 26:08Speaker 2: think this mom and dad are thinking about right now?
- 26:12Speaker 2: They pump all this money, all this time into their son.
- 26:17Speaker 2: It turns out to be a thirty three year old
- 26:21Speaker 2: abuser of alcohol, bully, tending bar erradically when he shows
- 26:27Speaker 2: up to work.
- 26:27Speaker 14: Yeah, listen, they probably know who he is. And I'm
- 26:32Speaker 14: gonna be real frank with you here, Nancy. This isn't
- 26:34Speaker 14: the first person that he's done this too. Shade is
- 26:36Speaker 14: not the first person. This is someone who has a
- 26:40Speaker 14: long history and I'm not surprised to hear about a
- 26:43Speaker 14: rap she with disorderly conduct and domestic abuse. This is
- 26:47Speaker 14: not someone who just one day decides that he's going
- 26:50Speaker 14: to stock a nineteen year old and then dismember. This
- 26:54Speaker 14: isn't someone that does that. This is someone who has
- 26:56Speaker 14: been long planning and been engaging in problematics, escalating them
- 27:01Speaker 14: each time so that eventually he's comfortable with actually doing
- 27:05Speaker 14: the things that he's been fantasizing about. His parents knew
- 27:08Speaker 14: who he was, and they tried and they did whatever
- 27:12Speaker 14: it was that they tried and they did to get
- 27:14Speaker 14: him to not do those things, but ultimately he was
- 27:17Speaker 14: going to do it anyway.
- 27:18Speaker 1: Let's have a little reality check.
- 27:20Speaker 2: Alexi says he's not an upstanding citizen. Okay, Delaty, you're
- 27:27Speaker 2: also airbrushing the truth.
- 27:30Speaker 1: Let me talk about this guy.
- 27:33Speaker 2: Police find a foot apparent apparently human flesh at a playground,
- 27:42Speaker 2: pink nail polish matching up. In the home, they find blood,
- 27:50Speaker 2: gasoline containers, blood on a comforter, blood scattered throughout the home.
- 27:58Speaker 2: Let me tell you this, I'm I want to go
- 28:00Speaker 2: to you. Fattus with me. High profile trial lawyer, TV
- 28:03Speaker 2: legal analyst, founding partner of the Warner Fattest elite legal group, Eric.
- 28:09Speaker 2: I agree with Delatory. This isn't his first time at
- 28:15Speaker 2: the rodeo. You don't go from zero to one twenty
- 28:22Speaker 2: mph in two seconds. There has to be something some
- 28:27Speaker 2: revving up up to not only a murderer, but alluring,
- 28:32Speaker 2: luring her onto a day. How many times do you
- 28:35Speaker 2: think he watched her come in, have a drink, have dinner,
- 28:39Speaker 2: anything like that before he gets the guts up to say, hey,
- 28:43Speaker 2: would you like to go to dinner?
- 28:45Speaker 1: He planned this.
- 28:47Speaker 2: You think you go from zero to murder and dismemberment
- 28:51Speaker 2: and one night.
- 28:52Speaker 1: Oh.
- 28:53Speaker 2: I agree with miss Scarborough. This is not his first
- 28:57Speaker 2: time and dilatory. Hit the nail on the head about it, Eric.
- 29:00Speaker 15: Yeah, Nancy, it's chilling to think about what was going
- 29:03Speaker 15: through Maxwell Anderson's mind allegedly as he appears to have
- 29:07Speaker 15: been preparing for this. You know, the details give rise
- 29:10Speaker 15: to a predatory nature here. There's a huge age gap, right,
- 29:14Speaker 15: and then there's also a friend who says that Maxwell
- 29:17Speaker 15: Anderson had a five foot by six foot deep hole.
- 29:20Speaker 1: Dug in his backyard.
- 29:22Speaker 15: And then we look at the rapidity how quickly this
- 29:26Speaker 15: turning from a murder to dismemberment in a like overnight.
- 29:31Speaker 15: That's not something that just happens on a whim in
- 29:33Speaker 15: my personal opinion, that's something that was planned out and
- 29:37Speaker 15: is just grotesque in terms of what we're learning.
- 29:40Speaker 3: Anderson has his share of troubles with the law. He
- 29:42Speaker 3: gets violent with family in Colorado, steals a family member's car,
- 29:46Speaker 3: crashes into a patio, breaks his collarbone, gets misdemeanor charges
- 29:49Speaker 3: for that. While staying with a different relative, he refuses
- 29:52Speaker 3: to clean up after himself and win. The relatives try
- 29:54Speaker 3: to lay down the law, their ungrateful guest punches a
- 29:57Speaker 3: hole in the wall and breaks their cell phone. So
- 29:58Speaker 3: they can't call police for help. Maxill Anderson also has
- 30:01Speaker 3: two delegu eyes in the last ten years.
- 30:03Speaker 2: Good Gravy Okay, Alexis Terraschuk. There's so much in this
- 30:08Speaker 2: guy's criminal history. Of course, he is presumed innocent until
- 30:12Speaker 2: proven guilty in the current case. You know, I'm looking
- 30:15Speaker 2: at a photo of him holding onto a strip and
- 30:18Speaker 2: a bus. Apparently the Milwaukee Transit captured the face of
- 30:24Speaker 2: the subject boarding and remaining on a bus. The booking
- 30:29Speaker 2: photo seems to be the same guy wearing the exact
- 30:32Speaker 2: clothing depicted on the subject who fled the scene of
- 30:38Speaker 2: the car arson, including a large ten backpack with ten
- 30:44Speaker 2: stripes that goes to corroborate the gas cans found in
- 30:50Speaker 2: his home. He is the guy, according to police, that
- 30:53Speaker 2: burned Shade's car that she worked so hard to.
- 30:58Speaker 1: Buy all on her her.
- 31:00Speaker 2: Own, holding down two jobs while going to college.
- 31:04Speaker 9: There was an eyewitness to the burning of the car.
- 31:07Speaker 9: As Shade's mother said, this community did everything when it happened.
- 31:13Speaker 9: The eyewitness said they saw a man in a jacket
- 31:15Speaker 9: with a backpack closed the door of this Honda and
- 31:18Speaker 9: flick a lighter into the car and it burst into flames,
- 31:22Speaker 9: so the person started screaming he did that, he did that,
- 31:25Speaker 9: he did that, and he ran away. That person contacted
- 31:29Speaker 9: the police to tell them about being the actual eyewitness
- 31:32Speaker 9: to him burning it. This was absolutely the community being
- 31:35Speaker 9: on their high alert and really helping out here.
- 31:45Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
- 31:51Speaker 5: A neighbor's security camera shows two figures entering Anderson's backyard
- 31:55Speaker 5: at nine twenty four pm. At twelve forty seven am,
- 31:59Speaker 5: a street camera shows Robinson's car departing Anderson's home. A
- 32:03Speaker 5: camera at Cutahey High School shows a car drive towards
- 32:07Speaker 5: the pumphouse at Warnamont Park at two fifty three am.
- 32:11Speaker 5: A figure is seen walking from the road and climbing
- 32:13Speaker 5: down the bluff to the beach several times. At four
- 32:17Speaker 5: thirty one am, the car leaves the park. Three hours later,
- 32:21Speaker 5: bus surveillance catches a man carrying a tan backpack walking
- 32:25Speaker 5: away from a fire at thirtieth and Lisbon. At eight
- 32:29Speaker 5: twelve am, Anderson, carrying a tan backpack, is seen boarding
- 32:34Speaker 5: a bus heading toward his home. Anderson gets off at
- 32:37Speaker 5: eight thirty five am and enters his backyard eight minutes later.
- 32:43Speaker 2: Two Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State, Joe Scott,
- 32:47Speaker 2: what do you believe those ten backpacks are going to reveal?
- 32:53Speaker 2: And how is the search of the backpacks? And I
- 32:56Speaker 2: don't mean open the backpack and take everything out, I
- 32:58Speaker 2: mean the forensics of the backpacks.
- 33:01Speaker 1: What is that search going to reveal?
- 33:03Speaker 12: They're going to take that thing apart, piece by piece, Nancy,
- 33:06Speaker 12: And I can tell you down deep in those fibers,
- 33:08Speaker 12: you're going to find DNA evidence. You'll be able to
- 33:11Speaker 12: actually see perhaps body fluids, and I'm talking about blood
- 33:16Speaker 12: just with the unaided eye that might actually appear as
- 33:20Speaker 12: they are actually taking the thing apart and looking at it.
- 33:24Speaker 12: And they need to and they need to take a
- 33:26Speaker 12: look at all I mean all of his clothing in
- 33:30Speaker 12: that house. I you know, I got to join in
- 33:33Speaker 12: in Unison. I got to join Miss Scarborough in Unison
- 33:37Speaker 12: on this, on this particular point, and you as well, Nancy.
- 33:41Speaker 12: I think that this place should be locked down and
- 33:45Speaker 12: every square inch of it has to be examined. I
- 33:49Speaker 12: mean gone through with a fine tooth comb, because I
- 33:52Speaker 12: don't think this is his first rodeo. You do not
- 33:56Speaker 12: get to this level of violence. And I'm talking about
- 33:59Speaker 12: post mortem violence here just instantaneously doesn't happen like this.
- 34:05Speaker 12: This almost seems practiced in one level. You have to
- 34:09Speaker 12: have the tools, you have to have the ability. Now
- 34:11Speaker 12: in that basement down there, that's going to be a
- 34:13Speaker 12: treasure trove of biological evidence. My curiosity is peaqued in
- 34:18Speaker 12: the sense is do we have any kind of layering
- 34:20Speaker 12: of evidence there are there any other biological samples down
- 34:24Speaker 12: there that are not necessarily belonging to those of Shahda.
- 34:29Speaker 12: Have any other potential victims been down there at any
- 34:32Speaker 12: potential time? I think that that's very important. Here.
- 34:35Speaker 2: Can I throw a scenario jumping off what Joe Scott
- 34:38Speaker 2: Morgan is saying to Eric Fattus, everybody jump in, please,
- 34:42Speaker 2: we need all of your brain power.
- 34:45Speaker 1: Eric Fattus, think about it.
- 34:47Speaker 2: You just told us that in the purp, the alleged
- 34:51Speaker 2: purpose backyard, there was a grave Doug, I mean a
- 34:55Speaker 2: full on grave five feet I believe you said, what
- 34:59Speaker 2: person does this? You have murdered at tained girl and
- 35:05Speaker 2: you dig a grave in the backyard and then you think,
- 35:10Speaker 2: oh wait, you know what, never mind, I'll just go
- 35:13Speaker 2: through a very lengthy dismemberment and then I'll scatter this
- 35:16Speaker 2: little girl's remains all across Milwaukee and he nobody will
- 35:19Speaker 2: piece it together.
- 35:21Speaker 1: Well, he was wrong.
- 35:22Speaker 2: My point is, Eric Fattis, was that grave for somebody else?
- 35:28Speaker 2: What else is in that backyard or in his childhood
- 35:32Speaker 2: home backyard?
- 35:33Speaker 1: I mean, what has this guy been up to?
- 35:36Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean that's the alarming prospect here is for
- 35:39Speaker 15: whom was he digging this five foot by six foot
- 35:41Speaker 15: grave in his own backyard? You know, his friends were
- 35:45Speaker 15: talked to and a lot of them said that they
- 35:47Speaker 15: had a creepy, weird vibe, he had erratic behavior, he
- 35:50Speaker 15: may have had an alcohol issue. And then we look
- 35:52Speaker 15: at you know, there are gas canisters found in his
- 35:54Speaker 15: home that he just quickly turns from date to homicide
- 35:59Speaker 15: to dismant to scattering human remains all across Milwaukee. It's
- 36:04Speaker 15: just not something that happens on spur of the moment.
- 36:05Speaker 11: Nancy family and friends of shaw Day Robinson are still
- 36:09Speaker 11: looking for her remains, basing their searches where Robinson's phone pinged.
- 36:13Speaker 11: Volunteers canvas the bluffs and beach near Warnamont Park. There
- 36:17Speaker 11: have been no reports of law enforcement searching the area
- 36:20Speaker 11: of Kern and Pleasant Valley Park, where Robinson's phone pinged
- 36:23Speaker 11: before it traveled south to Warnamont. Both Kern and Pleasant
- 36:26Speaker 11: Valley have access to the Milwaukee River, where Anderson could
- 36:29Speaker 11: have scattered more remains. The family says they will not
- 36:32Speaker 11: stop searching until Robinson is found and can be properly
- 36:36Speaker 11: laid to rest too.
- 36:37Speaker 2: Doctor John Delatory joining US renowned psychologist and mediator. Doctor Delatory,
- 36:43Speaker 2: I don't get it. A guy that is born with
- 36:47Speaker 2: a silver spoon in his mouth, sent to a fancy
- 36:51Speaker 2: Catholic school, football star and high school. You know those
- 36:55Speaker 2: people that their glory days were when they were in
- 36:57Speaker 2: the ninth grade.
- 37:00Speaker 1: That's him.
- 37:02Speaker 2: Then his dad gives him a job through nepotism within
- 37:08Speaker 2: the insurance company, the insurance brokerage company that the dad owns.
- 37:13Speaker 2: That didn't last long. Then he wanders around and ends
- 37:16Speaker 2: up bartending after several, let me say, brushes with the law.
- 37:22Speaker 2: That whole place, his whole house needs to be taken
- 37:25Speaker 2: apart the way Rex Huerman's home was the Long Island
- 37:28Speaker 2: serial killer suspect and searched because I'm not completely convinced
- 37:36Speaker 2: that that grave he dug in the backyard was meant
- 37:39Speaker 2: for this teen girl, This beautiful teen girl, shah Dave Robinson.
- 37:45Speaker 1: So what else will we learn?
- 37:46Speaker 2: So my question to you, doctor delatorious, how do you
- 37:49Speaker 2: go from a silver spoon in your mouth to three
- 37:52Speaker 2: hots and a cot and an orange jumpsuit?
- 37:54Speaker 14: It takes a long time. Again, this isn't someone people
- 37:57Speaker 14: don't just snap right, that's a complete misnown or people
- 38:00Speaker 14: don't now. This is years of him building up to
- 38:03Speaker 14: get to this point. Now he's explored other ways in
- 38:06Speaker 14: which he's going to be engaging in violent acts, whether
- 38:09Speaker 14: it's using alcohol or whether it's domestic violence, intimate partner violence.
- 38:13Speaker 1: Right. But it's not just this house.
- 38:15Speaker 14: It's any place where the family used to live, or
- 38:18Speaker 14: property that the family would own, anything that he had
- 38:21Speaker 14: access to. This is someone who wants to be comfortable
- 38:25Speaker 14: when he's engaging in these violent acts, using the properties
- 38:29Speaker 14: that he already knows provides that sense of comfort, and
- 38:32Speaker 14: then he likes to flash it. As we see, this
- 38:35Speaker 14: isn't just disposing of body parts. He's putting it out
- 38:38Speaker 14: in places for people to see, for people to get scared.
- 38:41Speaker 14: This is someone who wants to be known for engaging
- 38:44Speaker 14: in these kinds of violent acts.
- 38:46Speaker 1: Miss Scarborough.
- 38:48Speaker 2: You have not even been able to have a funeral
- 38:52Speaker 2: foreshaw Day yet, Is that correct?
- 38:54Speaker 1: Why?
- 38:55Speaker 16: Yes, that's correct, Nancy. This is probably the hardest all right,
- 39:00Speaker 16: that we're struggling with right now. I'm trying to find
- 39:04Speaker 16: peace laying my daughter to arrests gig all. This just
- 39:10Speaker 16: give her her transition as she deserves because she was
- 39:14Speaker 16: taken too soon. My baby was only she didn't even
- 39:18Speaker 16: make twenty. She was twenty in a few weeks. I
- 39:20Speaker 16: made it, Nancy.
- 39:22Speaker 1: They don't.
- 39:23Speaker 17: They can't even provide us with a death certificate right now.
- 39:27Speaker 17: They don't even know the calls of my daughter's death.
- 39:31Speaker 17: They don't know when. Like they're not giving me enough information, Nancy.
- 39:35Speaker 17: This is so frustrating. There is no closure right now
- 39:40Speaker 17: for me and my family and everybody have to plan things.
- 39:44Speaker 17: But I will be having a community gathering this Friday,
- 39:48Speaker 17: and I will be letting the community know where with time,
- 39:51Speaker 17: in the place and event it will be at in Milwaukee,
- 39:56Speaker 17: just to have a candlelight balloon release.
- 40:00Speaker 6: Can not even plan a memorial for my daughter right now.
- 40:02Speaker 2: Also, I want everybody to know that there will be
- 40:05Speaker 2: a fundraiser for shah Day's funeral go to justice for
- 40:11Speaker 2: shah Day and that is spelled s a d E
- 40:17Speaker 2: like you would say saved, like sage is pronounced Shahday.
- 40:23Speaker 2: Justice for shah Day, our fallen angel, Missus Scarborough. Before
- 40:31Speaker 2: we sign off, I just want you to know how
- 40:34Speaker 2: much we are praying for you and thinking about you
- 40:38Speaker 2: and your whole family, and we will not rest until
- 40:44Speaker 2: her killer gets the maximum sentence in that jurisdiction, which
- 40:51Speaker 2: is life without parol. God, please be with Shahde's family.
- 40:56Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you.
- 40:58Speaker 2: This is.
- 41:02Speaker 6: These are her earrings that came in the middle yesterday. Nancy.
- 41:05Speaker 6: I don't know if you can see.
- 41:06Speaker 7: You had to go to my baby's place for the
- 41:09Speaker 7: first time and these came for her.
- 41:14Speaker 6: These are her earrings and I have her earrings. These
- 41:18Speaker 6: are my baby. Series. Think this is so traumatic.
- 41:22Speaker 1: You know what's so funny?
- 41:23Speaker 2: Look what I've got My dad's shirt, my dad that
- 41:28Speaker 2: passed away.
- 41:29Speaker 1: I don't know why.
- 41:30Speaker 2: I just feel better having it with me, like your earrings. Guys,
- 41:37Speaker 2: let's just stop for one moment and remember an American hero,
- 41:41Speaker 2: police officer Michael Jensen, just twenty nine years old. Jensen's
- 41:49Speaker 2: shot in the line of duty Syracuse, New York, leaving
- 41:53Speaker 2: behind his loving parents and sweet sister, American hero police
- 41:59Speaker 2: officer Michael Jensen. I want to thank all of our
- 42:04Speaker 2: guests for being with us, specifically Hidey's mother, Missus Scarborough,
- 42:10Speaker 2: who suffered greatly to get Shaday's story out, and to
- 42:16Speaker 2: all our other guests, but especially to you for being
- 42:19Speaker 2: with us tonight and every night. Nancy Gray signing off,
- 42:24Speaker 2: good night friend,