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Episode 255: Bounty (SG-1 10.15) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Get into Gate episode two hundred and fifty five talking Stargate SG one two thirds.
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Here, we've got a Lewis. Obviously that's me talking. We've got
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a Gibson and we're down at Gibson. Get a Maddie. Oh see,
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what would have been amazing if you'd be like, get a Brennan and it
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was the first time I wasn't here. Well, I mean we we we
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were. You know, obviously we missed a U if you're listening live,
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we missed a week last week, and there was a chance it was like,
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oh, well maybe you couldn't have made it, but Brennan could have.
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And I'm like, you know, Maddie hasn't missed one yet, and
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you said you're saving that up for season four and five of Atlanti's leave.
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I'm gonna starts to dip a little bit. I mean, so you tell
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me, I don't know, I'm the first time Atlanta's watcher. So yeah,
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but no, Brendan. I mean, in fairness, it is for
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those listening live that are in Australia that understand what state of origin is Brendan
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guess one side I go for anow that we've got game one on in a
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handful of days and we just can't be in the same room at the same
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time very often over the next six weeks, because I mean the sexual tension
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is obviously always there, but just the rivalry and sometimes those two overlap and
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it's just like I didn't notice you're very pointly wearing your Maron's hat today,
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only because my hair looks awful. It is a new hat and look at
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it. I mean, I've got a big head, but it's like corduroy.
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It's like the old school Queensland regul League symbol. Not only does it
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fit and go around my head with two clips because it's a little clip situation.
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You have to do like one clip and then it doesn't stay. It's
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two clips, I could probably do three and it comes down low enough near
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my ears. I have that same issue. Yep, it's good when you
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get a win. I'm still running on a Fox Trucker cap that I bought
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from dream World in about two thousand and three. You take what you can
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get. Yeah, that was back in the day when everyone used to wear
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caps where they would just sit on their heads. They want them to sit
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up really really high. That's all. That's all. That was the golden
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time. That was the golden time because it would actually fit my head.
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There we were in fashion at that point. Yeah, we are talking Stargate
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SG one episode Bounty from season ten. Now, I d Maddie, you'd
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love this. I do have the DVD on me. It's literally three fours
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below us in my car, and I can't be rather going down to get
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it, so I'm just going to go to the next best thing. And
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it's actually the Stargate fantom page and I'm looking at it. It's actually better
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than what is on the back of the DVD. Right. SG one's efforts
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to weaken the Lucian Alliance drives Natan Naton Natan Natan to place the bounty on
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each of their heads. Whiless you one go their separate ways to spend their
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time off the bounty. Hunders are on their trail. There's an old delawase
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episode. Yeah, he's been been missing for a while. Yeah, and
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I'm watching this going, oh, I thought we'd almost like exhausted our our
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Delawase allowances. Technically it's a double Delawasee episode. We've had plenty of episodes
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where you know, his brothers have been in his dad's been on the show
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this episode his wife, So the blondie, the one that's his wife.
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Now, last time we saw her was when she was just his girlfriend.
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She was in the Space Nazi Underground episode. Guys. She was like the
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little offsider to the main space water Space Nazi water guy. Okay, because
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I'm on from d Space nine obviously obviously mean you go on early, mate,
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this is Brenda's on here or just trying to reference it, just trying
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to reference it, paint a mental picture with my imagination brush. I mean
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elsewhere if you want to go and here made you talk about some trek.
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He and Craig did their series finale rap rant. God damn you did you
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swear a lot in that episode. It's so refreshing because Craig doesn't bleep it.
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We just do it all in one take. Now, edit's so I
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can go, I can do whatever I want over there. It's over,
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and I'll get into Geek Channel, our sister podcast if you will. And
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yeah, it's a little bit filthier over there. And I listened to it
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still before I hit publish. And I get nervous every time someone swears because
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I've got to take that out. You know, we like to keep it
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family friendly here and get it a gate except for all the content around the
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swearing. Of course, it's a real contradiction. But yeah, I believe
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that the term this show came up so many times, No, no episode,
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this show man, sorry I or this can show man. Yeah,
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so much more frustration when you add man to the end of it. So
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if if you do dabble across sci fi into into the world of track,
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then go and check it out. I think like or hate the show Discovery,
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go and check out the I mean all of it. And if you
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if you listen to all ten episodes for the last seasons Discovery, you'll see
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my my transition from like to hate. I was so surprised that first episode
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you're like, hey, they're starting to find their way, and then by
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episode what four, You're like, where's the end? Thing stinks? You
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smell that smell, that smell that shitting happy Yep, that's Michael's anyway Bounty.
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Look, I mean we're not exactly talking about a high quality episode here
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as well. Well, it's interesting because it's a bummer that Brennan's not here
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because he did talk about last week or the week before, like we talked
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about how Vala and Daniel are always paired up together, and he was like,
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Oh, I really wish we could get an episode where we could see
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Mitchell and Valla team up together because of their chemistry from Fast Gate. And
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obviously, you know, I knew this one was coming, but I'd forgotten
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about that element of it, and I'm assuming Brendan had too, given that
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he doesn't. You and he both don't really watch season nine and ten as
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regularly as I would. I mean, he definitely watches I think Stargate as
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a whole. I certainly did before we started the podcast, and where we've
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just been like watching it as we go a lot more than I ever have.
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Absolutely, but I remember it's like he's a bit lighter on. Yeah,
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lack of Jack, I imagine definitely helps with that. But yeah,
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I thought the same thing. It was just there even if I didn't.
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It wasn't sort of top of mine. It was just almost like subconsciously going
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oh, thiss, refreshing in a way. And I think even if you
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just take the final scene alone, I mean where they're separated, she's yelling
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at him to get in the car and to stop hooking up with the blond
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chicken. Oh my god. When she gets in when he gets in the
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car to drive, and she just like, without asking, without him looking
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over and asking himself, just feeds him some pie and he takes the fork,
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eats it, gives it back to her while he's telling her, no,
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I think she literally fed him. Oh, I don't think he took
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the fork. I think he just literally just ate it off the fork she
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was holding. Yeah, I just I just love that, even the idea
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of like, who he's just hooked up with this girl that he's had a
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crush on for twenty years and then says, oh, there's nothing between her
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and I, which she's annoying, and then she feeds him in the car
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without a blink from either of them, and it's like, doesn't matter if
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anyone watches us who. He mentioned that Amy girl. Back in Ripple Effect,
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when they'll talk about all the alternate SG ones coming in, He's like,
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you mean there's a Carters, you know, explaining, he goes,
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you're telling me there there's a there's a universe where I got to second base
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with Amy blah blah blah in the back of my pickup drug Aha, that's
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her. I didn't know. Yeah, yep, but no, you did
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just mention my favorite line of the whole episode. I think, can we
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have to get moving? Going the car? It was so aggressive, such
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and given that he was just all like, you know, lovey dovey insiffe
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with aviansuff like that, and he's normally very quite professional, you know,
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and then just going the car. I mean, the focus was never on
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the melodrama of the romance like it would be in other shows. But if
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you just look at on paper and if you drew dots between different relationships and
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what was it was like between him showing up and then Blondie coming along and
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sort of seeing that him and Vaala were together, and then the best friend,
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assuming that Vala was in on the picture, and then we never really
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saw a conversation between Mitchell and the best friend to establish no, she's just
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a work for him, Like he was clearly annoyed by her, but it
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was like, is that part she's a friend from what? Like that part
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of the charm right? And then all of a sudden we get to prom
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and he I think like he's, oh, yeah, he's off talking to
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another blonde check But It's like it could have been he was where did to
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do that? Without knowing what might have happened off camera, It looked like
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he was ready to do the dirty on Mitchell as his best friend. Because
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he shows up, he sees Valor by herself. She's like, where's Mitchell.
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He's oh, yeah, he was off with that chick he was talking
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to yesterday that you're a little bit weary of And she's like, great,
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do you want some alcohol? Absolutely? Let me. Will you out of
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here by your tie? And then she's sitting there with her legs on top
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of him, and he's trying to hook up with her, and I'm like,
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has there been a conversation? To be fair, I think all bets
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are off. When they were out shooting cans and he asked where she works
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get and she says accounts M dot dot dot receivable. I mean, it's
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like, I'm open for business. We're not here exclusive. What's the daisy
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duke she was wearing? Oh yeah, that was like certainly a choice.
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I mean, you know, hate power to her, and you know,
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not to sound like a pig is a man watching or anything, but I'm
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like just watching that scene, like, okay, there was nothing subtle about
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her. There's nothing subtle about Valor anyway, but the idea that she is
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going to his hometown, to his old high school, meeting his parents,
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and then while they're there sort of setting up and whatnot, she's like the
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shortest shorts and then a shirt that's brought up to be tied up in front
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of her, and the pigtails and stuff like, you look, you're a
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walking cliche for a country town. It almost like it's like she googled country
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town how to blend in, and then that's what she went and bought.
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If there was a guitar around you, you would assume you're getting up on
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stage just to sing the most cliche country song. Imaginable. What I think
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is incredible though, and full credit to Claudia Black on this, Like how
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amazing she looked. You got to remember, at the end of last season
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beginning of this season, yes, she was pregnant with Andrea, but that
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was written to the show because she was pregnant in real life. Yeah,
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yeah, that's so the end of last season she was fully like eight months
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pregnant in this show. Cut to episode fifteen of this season, and she's
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looking like that I mean, I wonder like that's some dedication you well done.
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Do you get into the the I don't know how much Peter Delawy's well,
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I don't know how she would want to talk about this in the director's
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commentary, but that would almost seem to me like something that Claudia Black herself
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would suggest. We're here, we're doing this, She's like, can I
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do this? Like you know, they would never an I don't know whether
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it's just a woman thing or what, like a woman post pregnancy. They
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never going to come up to it. Surely you'd think it. Let's sort
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of family, close knit unit that the SG one crew and cast are would
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go up to and go, hey, do you mind if we get your
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stomach out? Like is that okay? Not only sorry you are doing this.
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It would be more of a can you or just her coming up and
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saying, I reckon, we can do this, and like if you're comfortable
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to do that, yeah. I would not be surprised if that was Claudia
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Black's choice, because you know, Peter Delawiz was too busy focusing on the
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fact that he was asking his co worker to make out with his wife on
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camera. Once you get one scene, Ben, Oh no, you know
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what Peter delous like. They were filming that for a day and a half,
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I bet. And he's standing right over the back of whose I guess
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it would be behind his wife, so that as Ben Brader goes in for
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the kiss, he's staring at you. Oh no, I think he's more
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he's the guy in the cup chair. I reckon, so's Peter Deliz is
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like, and then and then she likes it when you grab her back there,
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So just put your hand on the small of it, back just there.
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No, no, no, don't go right, go left. You
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got you gotta go left. She doesn't like it when you go right.
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Peter. I'm right here, darling. Yes, yes, I know.
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We're gonna have fun with this later on. I'm just just prepping the oven
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here. Children, Look what your mother did today. She came to my
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workplace. Look what you did? The height of that woman? Yeah,
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it was. I mean when Natan, I know, I asked you like
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ten minutes ago, shows up at the start and it's like, oh,
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those pesky SG one and I'm like, oh, that's right. The last
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time I feel like we saw you was when you had a little man baby.
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Cry. Yeah, it was that you were having a laugh at and
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then it's like, oh, that's most for the last time, I'm going
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to put a bounty of their heads. And I'm like, you haven't thought
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of doing that before, like up until now, Like they blew up a
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ship, it's the third ship they've blown up, like, but even up
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until them stealing you know, your harvest at the last time, even coming
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along and finding old mate in the dirt road and stealing one of your little
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drug apples, Like what what about it being now like, no, this
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is it and only that that's fine. I can allow that. But the
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the speed in which so many bounty hunters from across the galaxy, I mean
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again vast galaxy. We only saw a handful of them come and find them.
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But still across the episode, what we saw a couple of groups,
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couple of solos. If you just can't even a group as one, what
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did we see like six seven eight different? Yeah, well there was the
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really inept one that got hit by the bus that was floating with Daniel yep,
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there was the ones in space that got shot by the ones who got
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shot by Ventrail. Then there was Ventrail himself. Then I feel like Ventrail
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killed someone else, Like, yeah, there was a lot and we didn't
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even see any go after Tilk. We saw that one go after Sam or
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yeah, the guy that was a Jafar, right, the guy that looked
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like the Jafar. Oh, sorry, you're right, that's right. And
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then yeah, he wiped it off the top off his head. That's yeah,
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I forgot about that. The sniper. So's so many and I'm like
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with a Ghul just that, like did they not matter that much to the
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gold or did they never think to outsource finding SG one? Like they knew
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about Earth and it's like, oh, one day, we're going to get
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there and we're going to like either blow it up or take it over.
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But that's like seasons away, guys, so yeah there. Eventually, it's
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weird that I think at a certain point, maybe like season eight or something,
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that they're like, oh, yeah, we have these cloaked cargo ships
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that could just come to the planet whenever they want it, and we would
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have no idea, whereas the goa will drawer is like, no, I'm
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going to bring my entire fleet fully visible and it's going to take me three
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weeks to get there. So you could have plenty of time to defend,
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work up a defense, your deep space sensors have scene is coming, yeah,
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yeah, from ages away. These days, it's just like, yeah,
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anyone can just pop in whenever they want, Yeah, just show up.
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And I'm like, yeah, this seems like so impossible, And then
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you know, how did it have happened? Even at what a season ago?
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Two seasons ago? Card is dead on that stage, Like the only
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reason she's able to have survived that is because they're flashing out that they've only
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been showing off in the grand scheme of the franchise pretty recently. I mean
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then they get to I feel like that, Yeah, it was almost like
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a part two to the Mister Sheffield episode. Yeah, with the hologram and
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all that kind of stuff. Yeah, and I like that that was yeah
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the follow up and she's referencing that episode and hey, I'm going to show
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you how we did that. And so obviously it played into the why of
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what she was there. It wasn't just a matter of convenience. Or maybe
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it was, but that doesn't really matter. I do like though, that
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the assassin, the bounty hunter that was there to kill her still operated like
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a very human assassin would like show up with these very long, you know,
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nondescript briefcase. Yeah, takes out like a sniper in three pieces,
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assembles it. I'm like, could you be less human about it? Like
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it's it's something that reminds you, and it's one of it's one of it's
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one of my favorite episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. But it's also the
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one that I think and in a world where there's vampires and demons and all
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these kind of things, it's the part that stretches the imagination the most for
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me. Is there there's an episode where like Buffy can like hear people's thoughts.
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Yeah, and it's she's in high school still, and she hears like
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this time tomorrow you're all gonna die, you know kind of thing as you
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think someone's gonna like you know, it was the nineties school massacres, yeah,
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and all that kind of stuff. So there's this long shot of like
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montage of this guy like in like the clocktower, bell tower of like the
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La School assembling like this long rifle and the scope and all that kind of
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stuff, and Buffy sees it. So she does this amazing you know,
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running up the thing and jumping and flipping and getting up there in like a
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second and a half and she breaks to the wall and she knocks it out
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of his hand. And he's like, Oh, I wasn't trying to kill
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anybody. I came up here to kill myself with this giant like rifle that's
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like a meter and a half long. It was gonna be awesome with a
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scope and all these things. And I'm like, what is he? What
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is he using his toes with that one? Like, how the hell is
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he gonna kill him? So I'm just like, yeah, they didn't quite
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didn't quite get there when they needed to with that one, But yeah,
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I guess you could say, I guess it was a little bit easier this
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because they did have that line at the start about how they were all like
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tagged with radiation. That's true. Unfortunately, the Odyssey is not available for
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transport, but we've got a couple of three Zoro twos waiting. They should
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get you there pretty quick. Do we know how the assassins have been able
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to target us so precisely? I think? So. During our last mission,
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we were hit by what we thought was a scanning bit. Turns out
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it was a little more sophisticated than that. We were tagged. We're all
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emitting low levels of a particularly exotic form of radiation. That's what they're tracking.
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How the good news is it has a limited half life, so it
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should wear off in a couple of days. So I guess it definitely worked
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for what they ended up using it for. But I wonder at the time,
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was it is it a just in case measure? I guess if they
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detect any one on their ships or in their bases or anything, was that
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instantly sort of tagged just in case they get away, because they obviously had
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soldiers and stuff coming up to stop them and to try and kill Mitchell before
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he escaped on the rings and whatnot. But I guess it's like a yeah,
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they had that moment because it was there was something we'd never seen.
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I referenced a while ago, and it's probably one of my favorite visuals in
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the show. Doesn't really make a lot of sense in universe, but the
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the train Alkesh like the Alkesh with all the yeah, the supers cool,
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but yeah, there was the moment there where they had like the green lasers
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that sort of went through and obviously that was that was that that moment when
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that were tagged. Yeah. Yeah, so I guess that's probably more a
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loution lines thing that it is a gold thing. Yeah, and maybe the
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maybe the LOOTIONI lines just pays better than the gold. Yeah, because I
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guess we did have to deal. I mean, he wasn't physically sent after
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us, but old mate Flash Gordon Aris Boch was was a bounty hunter.
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Yeah, he was sent after that toker guy that had been to have seen
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him pop back up here and maybe he's like he knows who. Maybe you
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don't want to say he's just going to have given up, but like you
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know, on that life, but he's coming. He's gone to all this
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trouble to come and try and save us. But to have him show back
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up in the episode somehow would have been kind of fun that season two,
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Season two, season three, I want to say early Yeah, I would
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almost love the fact that he's not so much an ally but we kind of
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made good with him by the end all these years later, Yeah, to
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actually get a follow up on what happened. Was he able to track down
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his sun all that kind of stuff. Yeah, he's still a bounty hunter
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and he's like look, I know you guys helped me out that one time,
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but this money is too good, so you know, yeah, and
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then play with that rather than the ventrail or whatever like that was kind of
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dull and boring. It's just a generic, yeah, kind of baddy although
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something I think you'll like because obviously there's been a connection with Stargate to the
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Blade franchise because Atlanta shoots on the Blade Trinity set and we've used a lot
18:36
of their old props and stuff like that. The gun that Van Trell was
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using was Ryan Reynolds, yeah, from Blade three, big fat barrel on
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it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was just obviously must have gotten
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that in the in the deal of all the stuff they bought for a dollar.
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That's cool. Yeah, so they were reusing a what was his name,
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that King something, Hannibal King. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Back
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then we're like, huh, so we see Ryan Reynolds in a superhero franchise,
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Hey wow, we'll never see the Oh. He goes into play like
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almost more than anybody else I think he has, because there's even like a
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little indie film he did called like Paper Yeah where he was and he was
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like a comic book like Superman. Yeah, brought to life that green lantern
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Deadpool. What else has he done? His son? Like, I always
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get confused with losers, the Chris Evans one because that was comic. Yes,
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yeah, where he gets another notch up there? Yeah. Yeah.
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I was listening to an interview with Ross Markwan last week and they was saying
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he might even have the record now because he's doing obviously the voice of Professor
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X in X Men ninety seven. He did another one in that he obviously
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is he did. I think he did Apocalypse or something like that. Yeah,
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Okay, he's cgi Red Skull in Endgame and Affinity War, and there's
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something I think he's done other voice work and other like animated shows and stuff,
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and it's like he might actually be the record holder as far as like
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appearances, can I just say in the safety of the podcast and not a
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great casting for Professor X. Okay, there's a lot of wrong voice choices
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in the yeah, right, See, I don't know the original. I've
20:08
never seen the original X Men, well not enough to remember it, so
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when I hear it, I'm like, well, I've just seen I've seen
20:14
that one. Then there was X Men Evolution and there in the X in
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so many good Professor X voices and that I mean otherwise he's like he's a
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he's a great impersonator. So yeah, his his Red Skull was incredible.
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I thought that was old mate, real sidebar. Like in that interview he
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said, like Marvel, it's so it's secrecy that he was sent. You
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know. The pitch was, hey, record yourself doing a hugo weaving German
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accent. That's what we're going for here. Yeah, and he did that
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not knowing what it was. He didn't know his going It wasn't even like
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Marvel wants you, I don't think so, Like surely when they're saying Marvel
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want you, but we don't want to tell you what project. But can
20:52
you do like a German esque hugo weaving and we're not gonna, Oh no,
20:56
it's what red skull? Why would it be red skull? You wouliot?
20:59
Like it was very agrocab. You know. I saw an interview with
21:03
the guy who voiced MORPHINEX been ninety seven and yeah, he didn't know that's
21:06
what he was auditioning form. Yeah, it's too sick. Come guys,
21:11
get a grasp on the character. If you're just telling what they're doing here.
21:14
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean old Aris Boker. I mean,
21:15
you know, we keep saying, oh what if what if star Get
21:18
comes back? It would be kind of fun to I still feel like,
21:21
oh god, what's his name now? Flash Gordon real life Flash Gordon sa
21:23
Sam Jones, Right that, like he could he could pop back up,
21:26
and like he's still Aris Bok, He's still out there, like, yeah,
21:29
he didn't find his fair but he could. He couldn't turn down that
21:30
lifestyle, and that he's still like an aging you know, seventy year old,
21:33
mid seventies whatever, some guy just rolling around, still doing the thing,
21:37
still wearing the exact same outfit. I would love that on a that's
21:42
just coming out of the back. Yeah yeah, and he still remembers SG
21:45
one like nothing's happened. He's sort of someone will probably like you could even
21:49
have him like continue making the family business. And he's found his son,
21:52
and his son's a bounty hunter as well. Yeah. Yeah, he's played
21:55
by Mark Wahlberg. Obviously it's a real ted thing going. Oh see,
21:57
I was going to say, like the guy who played the son of Drago,
22:02
Oh yeah, the Drago guy yeah, okay, mum was good.
22:04
Yours is better. And then he'd have a history with Varla, like they
22:07
looked up in the past as well, and she's one of her many former
22:11
husbands. Yeah. I did like in this that Varla actually recognized Ventrail on
22:15
the spot. Yeah, yeah, that was like I thought that was quite
22:17
cleverg he thought he was hiding and playing side. Yeah, and she went
22:19
not that guy. Yeah, when when you had that little the lizard looking
22:22
bloke and like he's got the ability to obviously, you know, morph into
22:26
somebody else. Then oh yeah, he had one of the little hologram things
22:29
from him from Foothold. Yes, and then I'll make comes with Ventrail.
22:32
Ventral comes along, kills him and just looks the same way that he does.
22:36
The point where some people like, well even when Mitchell first threw him,
22:38
he's like, I didn't go to school with you, did I Like
22:41
it was just like a joke, but like he was so comfortable walking around
22:45
that well, he doesn't care why he's there. He's there to do a
22:48
job. And there's you know, for all the someone that might recognize that
22:51
they don't recognize him, there's ninety five percent others that are just going to
22:55
look straight past him, so that like he thought, you said, he
22:56
thought he was safe by being completely open, He's not going to expect the
23:00
Barla is going to be there exactly. There was, although she's part of
23:04
sgu one, So you think he you know, hmm, yeah, but
23:07
I guess he didn't see what he saw cam he hadn't seen her yet.
23:11
Yeah. Yeah, they are also separated. Yeah, apparently that moment though
23:14
with the with the high school friend he was in the trivia. I didn't
23:18
I couldn't verify it, so I didn't include it, but you brought it
23:21
up, so I thought I mentioned it. Someone said it was a reference
23:22
to Groundhog Day in that whole Bill Ted because like the names were the same
23:29
or something like that. It was a Ted and then his wife's name or
23:32
whatever. Yeah, but I was like, it's a stretch, but it's
23:34
a delay. I mean, he did a great job the best mate when
23:38
Varlas obviously pinned him up when she's already said I'm married, and he's like,
23:42
oh damn it, and then she just slams it up against the wall
23:45
in front of everybody else and he's like, oh, I like this,
23:48
like where this is going and she's like, no, no, no,
23:49
this guy's here, he's dangerous or whatever. It gave him very minimal instruction
23:53
or time too, as far as we knew. And then he walks in
23:56
pretending to be drunk, to the point where even Mitchell thought that he was
24:00
drunk and in the wrong place at the wrong time. And I'm like,
24:03
man, he really took like that ad libbing. He you know, he
24:04
would absolutely kill it on whose line is it? Anyways? And scene go
24:11
like he really picked it up. So what I think was a missed opportunity
24:15
though, And it would have been a great world building for Cam. And
24:18
if you know, if the show had kind of planned this out a couple
24:19
of seasons ahead of time, but instead of killing off the hospital masturbator,
24:25
if it had been him. Yeah, they had actually been long life friends
24:29
from their hometown. Both joined the military, you know, then his friend
24:33
got hurt and Cam was the one that got the job in the SG program.
24:37
Yeah, and then this was actually his introduction to it. More like
24:42
obviously I'm still fine with him having you know, all the all the memories
24:45
and stuff from the from the device. Yeah, it probably needed some kind
24:48
of like what what what's the ily read about it the other week, and
24:52
it's more so about a woman dying so that a man can develop as a
24:59
character. But is that like we needed someone close to him to die to
25:03
develop into what he did so early into season nine, or he's a run
25:06
in his two seasons. So yeah, but like that connection. To have
25:08
that bloke another throwback would have been great. Yet to have bought him back
25:11
and have it midway between his old schoolmates and this guy that kind of knows
25:15
what he's doing but doesn't at the same time. So yeah, that's a
25:18
shame. Yeah, it would have been nice. I mean just the end
25:22
of it as well, like the fact that, okay, there's clearly there's
25:23
a guy dead out in the car park. Okay, there's another bloke that
25:27
just the guy who they went to school with, Yes, the car park.
25:32
Yeah, did his body get dragged away? We don't know who just
25:34
like gets killed and then we don't see it and then oh, hang on,
25:37
no, so he got killed. The bloke then used the device to
25:42
turn into him. He got killed then himself. Let's assume he even stays
25:47
looking human while he's deceased. We've got two blokes that look exactly the same
25:52
dead in the car park. Yeah. While then Trell then walks into the
25:56
car, into the into the building. He then because he out slash kills
26:03
yeah like Batman, Batman? Was it a joke? A Batman? Sorry?
26:08
Jack Nicholson joker electrocute electrocutes him with his handshake device. And so there's
26:15
a bloke laying there, let's even just say paralyzed, even if he's not
26:18
dead. There's some weird shit going on, and all of a sudden,
26:21
this guy brings out a gun and locks the doors. Don't even need to
26:23
know that he did it with a little magic device. It's like, how
26:26
are they going to explain this? This is going to be a tough little
26:29
nut to crack at the end of all this. And then when he starts
26:32
like, you know, wiring into the guy, Oh, I won't beam
26:34
out, you have to beam in. There's got to be some sci fi
26:37
fan out there. Even if Star Trek doesn't exist in this universe, which
26:41
we know it does, and so does Star Wars. Even though they don't
26:42
do a lot of beaming, someone would understand. I'm sure there be a
26:45
sci fi franchise within the Stargate world where beaming is a known term. Yeah,
26:49
Star Trek's where they stole it from. Even if the words somehow,
26:53
if the if the dialect, the dialogue in that terminology is somewhat different,
26:57
beaming itself enough of a descriptive word that you would understand what's going to happen.
27:03
And I'm like, you can't say that stuff in front of people.
27:04
There's a lot of people here. You're gonna have to men in black mind
27:07
wipe here and then SG one as far as we know beam in I'm like,
27:11
oh shit, this is just getting this is getting too complicated. And
27:15
then like suddenly Hammond Wilson is in NDAs for everybody if you don't get a
27:22
jab in the neck with some poison, yeah, or a car runs you
27:25
over in the car park, and I'm they go, oh man, it's
27:26
a shame that, Like, I guess this is maybe where they utilize some
27:29
hol of grome technology. But then I think, again, by the I've
27:32
done it so many times. By the time they get to using it,
27:33
I'd forgotten that I thought about that, and so I was like, ah,
27:37
that's awesome. Yeah, like they didn't disappear into the end of the
27:40
ring device. That's great. But then when they do and tilk and and
27:45
Sam sort of walk out of the out of the hologram, and Daniel still
27:49
there, and he just looks around to all of the high school you know,
27:53
formerly high school students going by now, and I'm like, stop showing
27:57
off at the fact that you are using incredible alien technology in front of it.
28:00
Again. I know, Sam was at a place in a different part
28:03
of the country referencing hash they'd even used it, even though they didn't but
28:07
they used it a couple of years ago. This all seems like a bit
28:10
too much because now there were dead bodies around them. And then I'm just
28:12
whatever Sam was doing was being broadcast on news that night. Yeah, it'd
28:17
be different in the world exactly like, oh, you know, an assassination
28:22
was fored today by the use reuse I some amazing government technology, blah blah
28:26
blah. You could understand that, but this and I'm like, okay,
28:29
we're going to find out later. They've walked in, they've sprayed in with
28:32
some gas that they got from some bloody planet that we've never been to before,
28:34
and they just explained it away in dialogue. And now they just come
28:37
along Ago and old Amy's like, Man, those NDA's that we had to
28:41
side were pretty I don't even sure. I'm aled to think about it talk
28:44
about it. I'm like, oh, they're just trusting you. Because they're
28:45
just trusting it, there's got to be like a conspiracy or somewhere that's doing
28:49
the math because it's also like a couple of hours earlier, Daniel was also
28:53
on the other side of the country and the woman with the pram witnessed that
28:57
other boundtown to getting hit by the b and Daniel was there for that.
29:02
And then the only way Daniel was able to get from wherever he was to
29:04
Kansas Yea with the three O two's, which are going away faster than anything
29:07
else. So people are going there's no plane, there's no plane he could
29:11
There's no way he could have been there to witness that bus accident and then
29:15
get to where he needed to be within that amount of time. There's no
29:17
way it could be done. Yeah, yeah, I mean as they were
29:21
literally disappearing as the ring device was transporting them up, I'm like, oh,
29:26
imagine if this was kind of this was the catalyst to the public finding
29:30
out about the SGC or a lot more than what they already. Know,
29:36
we might not necessarily have to have the public find out that they've been you
29:40
know, traveling across the galaxy, across the universe, different galaxies for years
29:45
now, but like this seems like a pretty big thing to just try and
29:48
wrap up. You know, we've already had a building disappear in the middle
29:52
of a city and go, oh yeah, no one was around. That's
29:55
how great we are at evacuating places, which has never happened before or since.
29:57
No one was around except Colonel Carter, who was also present for this.
30:02
Like, you're right, the conspiracy theorist gone online. I mean that
30:07
could even be it probably wouldn't be, probably not the right show for it,
30:10
but I'm just thinking they did bring it back now if you're going to
30:12
reflect a little bit more real world sort of stuff to have that, Yeah,
30:17
I mean with online forums and the way that people like to theorize on
30:21
the conspiracy level, they wouldn't be able to get away with it. Yeah,
30:25
given that Daniels also the guy that a decade earlier was one theorizing that
30:29
you know, pyramids were landing platforms for alien spaceship him on a stage.
30:33
Yeah, I know, it's like weren't you the white Yes, and then
30:34
you disappeared, like literally without a trace for like a year and a half.
30:38
This is true where we're well, I can't it's classific. Okay,
30:41
so it's classified. Great, And then you've had you know, you had
30:45
had you know, someone who was related to you that also had disapp talk
30:48
about that. Yeah, I don't worry. And you were at this place
30:51
and then you an hour lady, you're on the other side of the country.
30:52
What do you have to say about all this? Like, yeah,
30:56
they're not they're not surviving any of that. There's there's there's just too many
30:59
peace to this giant puzzle and nothing's connected through guys. Like people aren't idiots
31:03
now, most of them are, but some of them that's why they end
31:06
up with enemies like Kinsey. Maybe you are losing control on your own mission
31:14
here, guys, in your own environment, like it all seems nice and
31:17
tight underneath the ground thirty eight floors or what are we not thirty eight floors?
31:21
What are they twenty twenty floors under the gate room? Oh god,
31:25
I've just drawn a blank. I'll say thirty eight, but that's thirty eight
31:29
minutes, twenty twenty eighth floor some plot. Yees, if I'm really sorry,
31:33
I need to listen to a start. The amount of times that we
31:36
would have said that Brendan's probably listening to is now going, oh God,
31:40
really, like of all things that I could have trusted you to get right,
31:42
and this is the one that you fail. Yeah, oh well,
31:45
let's just pretend that we didn't say it. I've got some numbers that I
31:48
thought perfect. Edit. I've got some numbers that I thought all quite interesting.
31:53
This is a nice little attention to detail for the show, all the
31:57
stuff for the reunion. It's obviously Cameron's twentieth high school reunion. This was
32:06
shot in two thousand and seven. He was the class of eighty seven stop,
32:10
which then also tracks because if you go, well, eighty seven minus
32:15
say eighteen, because normally in America they're eighteen when they graduate, makes him
32:19
born in nineteen sixty nine, which is the reference they made the joke,
32:22
remember saying that Jack was his dad being born in nineteen sixty nine and all
32:28
that kind of stuff. So it all kind of tracks there. Jesus.
32:30
The only problem which would also make Cam thirty eight as of that that episode,
32:36
which I feel like he's young to be an suc leader. The only
32:38
problem is that in nineteen eighty seven, when Cameron Mitchell was eighteen, Ben
32:44
Brad was twenty five. So they've rolled him back a little bit. They've
32:46
rolled him back a little bit. Yeah, yeah, but I did just
32:50
like the fact that there was the continuity between nineteen sixty nine, nineteen eighty
32:52
seven and two thousand and seven that I like that. That's cool. Yeah,
33:00
there's other shows Star Trek Discovery that would not actually, you know,
33:02
take that much note of things, Yeah, and have all that math add
33:06
up. Yeah, So I wonder if because it was what Damion Kindler wrote
33:10
this, So I wonder was that a hymn thing? Was it a delaweze
33:14
thing? Is Ben Browner keeping track of all these things and saying, well,
33:17
no, I remember that joke we made about me being born in nineteen
33:21
sixty nine and Jack potentially being my father because of the ninety six d episode
33:23
means it's got to be you know, and who came up with the other
33:27
year and said, oh shit, we're currently filming in two thousand and seven.
33:30
That means it would have been Ben brown like Camin Mitchell's twentieth Yeah,
33:35
school reunion. Did you see the Damien Kindler Kindler reference on screen reference?
33:42
No, so here, I'm just pulling it up for you now. But
33:44
the scene where Mitchell's run off down the hall because his cell phone's not working
33:47
and he's went to find the payphone, yeah, or at least the landline
33:51
two thousand and seven. Yeah, and that's when beltre Ben Treill Ben Trell.
33:57
I've got a written down the only way keep it in my mind.
34:00
On one side of the payphone is assigned blue tag to the side of the
34:07
phone Damien Kindler Kinder for glass for class president. Yeah, but treasurer class
34:15
it's like their treasurer. Yeah, for class treasurer. But they're like it's
34:20
been the graffiti itself. So yeah, that was kind of just like that.
34:25
Yeah. Yeah. And then just back to the amy side of stuff.
34:29
I think we're already lived through it enough with with Sam and Pete and
34:35
and other you know, potential suitors. But I'm like, look, knowing
34:38
that we're nearing the end of the show, and I'm like, ah,
34:40
this would be a nice little open ended thing, which we kind of did.
34:45
Anyway. He's like looking up with her and he's like, hey,
34:45
look, you know, Colorado is not that far away, so maybe you
34:49
want to come see me one day, and you know we can, we
34:52
can. So I mean, the fact that he drove off and left her
34:53
at his parents place, it's kind of weird. Like I'm sure they're all
34:57
like it's smallville, like everybody knows each other and it's fine. But you
35:00
know, his mum was still like, oh my god, I love what's
35:02
so much. His dad's like I'm kind of glad that she's not with him,
35:07
considering how much sex. She's like that was such a great. Yeah.
35:09
Yeah, she was like, oh, yeah, we've kind of ever
35:12
estimated our spiritual connection. And he's like, yeah, we figured that he
35:19
was just sitting in the first scene that right, the parents like they were
35:22
just having food outside already, they were already eating. And then because it
35:27
just really struck me when they're saying goodbye to Valla in that final scene and
35:30
the dads are there on crutches, and I was like, I just I
35:34
don't know, like not that he shouldn't be, but like it was just
35:37
yeah, because I I think that's a throwback to remember the last time we
35:40
saw his dad and like there was the whole trivia where it's like that act
35:44
is actually like younger than what been brouderers or whatever, And I don't remember
35:47
him being in crutches like that. He might have had a cane maybe or
35:51
something like that. Yeah, yeah, I don't remember what the like in
35:52
universe. Oh wow, Okay, so I just googled it. I literally
35:58
just googled stargate Mitchell Dad the thing comes up. Frank Mitchell, father of
36:01
Kavin Mitchell, a test pilot in the nineteen sixties. Mitchell lost his legs
36:06
after a plane accident. Okay, when will we ever told that? I
36:09
feel like this is new information. Sorry kkeb if it's not. Yeah,
36:16
unless that's like a well, I'm certainly not criticizing people that are on crutches
36:20
or that are amputees, that are people that have had and need some assistance
36:22
in walking. I just felt like being thrown back into that world and seeing
36:27
this blake sitting down and it wasn't I didn't take any notice. Sorry,
36:30
three star of crutches that were like standing by the table that he was sitting
36:35
at, and all of a sudden he's just yes, saying goodbye, and
36:37
I'm like, well, that's obviously they're making your point. You could get
36:39
around that even if you hired an actor who was not as able bodied as
36:46
what the character they're supposed to play is or something. You could find ways
36:51
of shooting around that. But yeah, not giving a defeat. He refused
36:54
to allow his son to see him destroyed by the accident, and eventually he
36:57
walked again. And yeah, literally the only episode the dad is in is
37:00
Collateral Damage, the memory episode and Bounty, and says Wall in the Galarian's
37:05
memory booth, Colonel Mitchell remembers his father and the impact he has on his
37:07
life. Maybe we all didn't pay attention to that scene because that was the
37:10
episode where we were making fun of, like when Cam was like in the
37:15
jet and he blew up that the convoy and stuff was it and stuff like
37:17
that. So it was that shepherd. Now, oh, I'm so sorry.
37:21
I I think that was a shepherd. Yeah, yeah, I didn't
37:24
realize that. Yeah, Cam's dad didn't have any legs. Okay, well
37:28
there you go. He'd lost him in he was a pilot as well and
37:30
lost him in the sixties. Yeah, so I don't know, I don't
37:34
I don't need any like happy endings for everybody, and everyone ends with in
37:38
the most positive way possible. But I don't know. I kind of like
37:42
the idea that maybe Mitchell, you know, post season ten, he was
37:45
able to go and shack up with Amy and keep something alive, and if
37:49
we caught up with them now, you know, fifteen twenty years or had
37:52
the show gotten the season eleven? Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah,
37:54
that you know, maybe I've just noticed we were just praising all that
37:58
math. Frank Mitchell, father of Cameron Mitchell, a test pilot in the
38:02
nineteen sixties. Cam was born in nineteen sixty nine. I mean not to
38:07
say you can't get a woman pregnant, you know, without the use of
38:10
your legs. But as says Mitchell, lost his legs after a playing excident.
38:15
Not giving in to defeat. He refused to allow his son to see
38:19
him destroyed by the accident. But wouldn't have happened before Cameron was born.
38:22
If Cameron was born in nineteen sixty nine, yeah, it might have just
38:25
been like a you know, or maybe it happened afterwards. Maybe we need
38:29
to do a podcast on the episode Collateral through a season nine. Look,
38:35
I'll tell you what We'll leave here and we'll go listen to what we thought.
38:37
Yeah, we definitely said in our own podcast of Collateral Damage. I
38:40
feel like Cameron's dad not having legs new information to me. So what's not
38:45
new information regarding Cameron? Yes, I feel like one of his most iconic
38:49
lines. And again, it plays in on several levels. One, I
38:52
wish Brennan was here for this because it was mainly something that Brennan and I
38:54
spoke about a couple of weeks ago. Two, the episode is Bounty County
39:00
years of you know, a fruitful you know it's you know, like a
39:01
treasure or something, something that you want. And one of Cameron's most famous
39:06
line deliveries of macaroon. I brought us some macaroon, not a macarn,
39:17
a coconut macaroon, just to prove you guys that I know what I'm talking
39:23
about. Hey man, I was kind of Switzerland and this whole thing,
39:28
I I m coconuty. This is a macaroon. A macaroon. Macaron macaron
39:36
is a little carmon biscuit. I've definitely never had one of them. Do
39:38
in the middle. I mean, I just made with coconut. It's delicious.
39:45
But if you were to, you know, walk me into a room
39:49
and they were different items on a table and say, what's this one called.
39:55
I never would have said, again, like Brendan, we didn't know
39:59
there were two different ones Calmel education aside, there was a macaron and a
40:02
macaroon. I mean the time, I'm wearing a queens and stative ogin hat.
40:08
Depending on who you talk to, where the maroons or the maroons are
40:13
we there's only one answer. It's written maroon, same maron. Get over
40:16
it. Yeah, that's I mean, that's delicious. But I never would
40:21
have said macaron for this or macaroon because you would have told me that existed.
40:25
That's that's that's not badlious. I would say better than macarons. I'm
40:29
a macaroon person. I'm going to say the next time, and I'm going
40:31
to continue eating while I talk excellent. The next time that you mention a
40:35
food in the podcast, I am going to pretend even if I do becoming
40:38
a tradition, isn't it. I'm going to pretend like I don't know what
40:40
it is, because then you end up bringing it in the next podcast.
40:44
You're gonna be like, I'd have no idea what's a maserati? What is
40:47
that? You would never give that to me? Yeah, Porsche never heard
40:52
of it. Yeah, thank you. I've still got some carrob at home.
40:54
It's still well. Take these. Make yourself a carrot a macaroon sandwich.
41:01
Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness, that's a that's again in the
41:06
gate official Ye whole thing snack on top of blue jellow with a side of
41:10
whatever the bar is that they eat in the movie. Oh the is the
41:15
Three Musketeers. Remember someone sent us on someone someone on Patreon sent some of
41:19
my desk outside too, because I never I thought we ate them. No,
41:22
we didn't. You might have eaten. Maybe I just kept mine on
41:24
Lincolns. Oh maybe that's what it was. And I kept it because I
41:28
wanted to keep it as like a prop, but essentially for the podcast,
41:30
in our videos and stuff, I would just have always a Musketeer just sitting
41:37
here just in case or in the event of apocalypse. I've got, you
41:40
know, a chocolate bar from five years ago to to get through and a
41:45
dicksticker from River flash up. Yes, I mean there's so many things.
41:47
Yeah, I thought the the inning was a bit weak, like the whole
41:53
thing where like we convinced Ventrail, oh yeah, to go in and like
41:58
kill the tar or be like, we didn't even convince it. Were like,
42:00
oh, surely there's someone else out there that's going to pay you even
42:02
more money to kill Natar And then yeah, you just cut to some random
42:07
bounty hunter got Natan is about to kill him. Then Ventrell shoots him in
42:15
the back, just so that then he can ambiguously did he or did he
42:19
not kill Natarm. I'm assuming he did, because I'm pretty sure this is
42:23
I mean, granted the show's only got five episodes left, I'm assuming he
42:27
killed him. I don't know whether they left it ambiguous in case they wanted
42:30
to bring the Taran back later on or whatever, but I think they did
42:32
that fade to black and then you know, you hear the shot go like
42:36
off screen or whatever. But yeah, this yeah, no, it was
42:40
just like it was Natan's face and then it just a cut to SGC or
42:45
whatever. And that's what I thought to him. I'm like, oh,
42:47
that's ambiguous. Yeah, but I'm like, yeah, I felt the same
42:52
way, because they're like, oh, well, we just have to convince
42:53
everybody else. He's like look, just because you got me doesn't mean no
42:57
one else is going to try and get usg one. He's like, sure
42:59
unless he put up a little pricey ahead up for grabs. Whatever could you
43:04
mean? And then it goes to the Natan on his ship and I'm thinking
43:07
that's cool. And when Ventrell gets there to to kill him and he's like,
43:14
yeah, but he said, I thank you for saving me. I'm
43:15
not here to save you, pulls the gun up and you know someone's willing
43:19
to pay that. I'm like, but who? Like SG one said oh
43:22
we could make it happen. What are they paying you? And galactic credits?
43:24
Like what was it one of Natan's like lieutenants who wanted to take control,
43:29
At which point, well, the Lucian Alliance is still a thing,
43:31
then it just has a different guy in charge. Yeah, and you just
43:34
got to hope that they're not as pissed off at SG one as what Natan.
43:38
And also like Ventrel didn't seem overly like honorable in like you know,
43:44
the honor of thieves company type thing in that a, he didn't on his
43:50
contract to kill SG one. He then came back when the other guy was
43:54
about to shoot Natan. Why didn't he just let him that guy shoot Natan
44:00
and then shoot that bounty hunter in the back and then just claimed the bounty
44:02
himself. Yeah, why did he kill that guy's first? You know,
44:07
I wanted you to know it was me type thing. Hmmm, So it
44:12
was. It was a bit of a weekending that one. But I do
44:15
enjoy this episode, Like it's not it's not terrible. It is something different
44:19
for the show to to, you know, have him go back to the
44:22
high school. I mean, Daniel would go back and do research and and
44:25
I mean even that with the bounty hunter that was you know, Daniel's not
44:30
stupid, but I mean, how much is he led with Little Daniel when
44:35
he goes there and pulls one book out randomly and then just happens to be
44:37
the woman right there going hire you're looking for something he's like and even literally
44:43
why I was here. Even worse but is if you look closely, when
44:45
she like moves her hand like rested on the side of her face, she
44:49
still has like the weapon on her fingers, and he didn't even notice.
44:55
She was incredibly dumb, Like maybe it was just sorry p Maybe the way
45:00
it was shot. I don't know, but it's like that whole mean girl's
45:04
getting hit with the bus thing. It's like, surely that bounty hunter would
45:07
have heard the bus coming. Oh, anyone the bus driver didn't see the
45:09
woman because she not like she stepped out. No, she was standing in
45:13
the middle of the street for a while, yep. And we didn't see
45:15
anyone get off the bus to come and check. I mean, she seemed
45:19
to come out of nowhere too. Like he's running down the street, which
45:21
seemed like he was nowhere near a library or a museum or anything. He's
45:25
in the back alleyways between you know, houses, and then he just kind
45:29
of like stopped in the middle of nowhere, and then we heard the sound
45:31
effect and then we see her just standing right where he'd run past, and
45:36
like none of this makes any sense. Yeah, but I like that she's
45:38
like, hey, you stop right start killing people, and it's like,
45:42
oh, okay, good, you're jumping straight to see anything that's going to
45:44
stop him. That woman was reacting quite you know, adequately, like oh
45:47
my god, it's me, it's my baby, even though all she was
45:50
doing was pointing a piece of jewelry at her. As far as the woman
45:52
pramed you. Yeah, like not long as she was holding a gun.
45:54
Yeah, right yeah. And then I mean still in the library where she
45:58
comes over and flirts again and he's like, what are you doing. She's
46:01
like, I just thought you're really cute, Like we should absolutely get out
46:04
of here and just go somewhere like by ourselves. And then I'm like he's
46:07
still buying this, like this lovable nerd. And then he's like, look,
46:13
you think he would have learnt from my cyrus. I'm yeah, exactly,
46:15
I'm not the most forthcoming type. And I'm like, oh wow,
46:20
great, wow, great, great dirty talk there, Daniel got the ladies
46:23
across the line. But then when he comes straight to so I'm gonna do
46:25
it. I'm gonna give you a hard pass, and I'm like, okay,
46:28
good, it was awful. And she's wearing like the black pleather jacket
46:30
and black pleather skirt. Yeah, looking like a full like dominatrix librarian.
46:36
Not unattractive either, So he like give power to him for either seeing through
46:39
the bullshit or going no, I came here to read like if you want
46:44
to meet me at a bar, and like, I don't know, eighteen
46:45
hours, I'm just going to be like face deep in a book, yeah,
46:50
real quick. So it was funny when that happened. I And it's
46:54
not like I watched this episode in two minute bites, and I don't know
46:58
whether it was just like from the start, it's like, I'm gonna put
47:00
a bounty in their heads. I'm like, oh, that's what this episode
47:01
is going to be. Okay, so we're we're not forwarding the story on
47:06
with the Ari and Adria and and anything really like it's just going to be
47:12
an individual which is fine, but like you said, we've got a couple
47:14
of episodes left. We really need to be doing this type Yet, even
47:16
if we never spoke about the Loutional Lions again, who gives a shit?
47:20
We wouldn't have if we never visited them again after the last time, and
47:22
then we get to the end of the series, is anyone still going,
47:25
yeah, but what about the Loutional Lions. You never tied that up.
47:28
It's like, yeah, they just filtered out to nothing or they become no
47:30
one's real They didn't ever get to the power of the gold in the galaxies,
47:35
and no one really gives a shit about them. But when she showed
47:38
up and she's trying to kill him, and I think I actually did.
47:43
I did have to briefly stop it after the landry was calling him, going,
47:47
she was human but not of Earth, and she had this weapon and
47:51
blah, and I'm like, oh, I wonder where she's from, or
47:52
I wonder why she's here. I didn't even think about the fact that she
47:54
was a boundy under like at that at that moment, don't don't don't give
47:59
me me the sympathy or the unpretend understanding of what you just did. I'm
48:01
an idiot, but I think I was just so focused on the idea of
48:06
the lizard creatures and the bell vn Treill. God, I'm not doing this,
48:14
this is real Ventrell. At the start, I just think I was
48:17
just is it being sexist to not assume that a woman's out there murdering people
48:22
for money? I don't know, maybe it is maybe a little bit.
48:24
Okay, sure, they're just as bloodthirsty and money hungry as everybody. But
48:29
I remember, in the Stargate universe, Daniel Jackson is an unattractive nerd yes,
48:37
so the first the thing should have been, oh, there's an attractive
48:39
woman showing interest in him, something's amiss. Yeah, something's afoot. Even
48:44
though right before he saw I think you got up from the table and he's
48:45
walking and he's doing that very modern day at the time Daniel Jackson thing like
48:52
and even in that moment, I'm like, that's not how James Spader walked,
48:55
So that that's how much this character, like the confidence that he has
48:58
now and how much he works out and stuff. But he's like the way
49:00
that he sort of walks with these he's sort of looking, you know,
49:02
right down and to the right, and he cocked his neck just a little
49:06
bit deep into a book and a perfect right angle with these arms so that
49:09
he can flex being held in placed by his bysex through a tight T shirt
49:13
that's just begging to stay wrapped around his arm, really struggling because of how
49:19
Buffy is. And yet still it's like, oh, yeah, he's that's
49:22
not supposed to that's an unappealing nerd in TV land, damn it. Yeah.
49:29
Absolutely. What I would have liked to have seen though, is I
49:32
think they should have swapped something. I would have liked them to go on
49:35
like full like comedy in this just because next I think it was the bad
49:40
thing they did was pairing this episode with the next episode Bad Guys, and
49:45
I think they should have been side by side. But we also have family
49:49
to deal with later on, which is another super sort of comedic one,
49:52
right, family ties. What I would have liked is to maybe swap some
49:55
of these bounty hunters around, knowing that doctor Lee is quite the ladies man
50:00
at these nerd things. Imagine if the female bounty hunter had gone there and
50:07
thought that Bill was doctor Jackson brilliant and then was flirting with Doctor Jackson,
50:12
and Bill would have been all over it. This is great for the single
50:16
space and like, you know, hey, all power to a balling man,
50:22
Like, you know, I will be not too long. I'm just
50:24
doing it really slow. But like the shot where they like it looked like
50:28
he was unkept, so he's sort of like very bald, and the hair
50:30
that he does have was like really long where it shouldn't have been long.
50:34
It's a friar tuck. It's a loose fry like friar tuck. If he
50:37
just sort of let it go for a little while and you know, it
50:39
was gone through some hard times and then he just wanders over to two much
50:44
younger, very attractive women, and they're just like there is He's like,
50:49
ladies spinning around with Champagne like hello, and I'm like, rip all those
50:55
lines from his Warhammer game like he was a couple of weeks ago. Yeah,
51:00
I know this works in the older ladies. I'm a level fifty wizard.
51:05
I've got the expansion pack if you know what this game is definitely a
51:08
three player lady, Oh ship, good on your bill? Yeah, well
51:15
done, I hope. Yeah, I want to see that. Where's where's
51:17
the deleted scene of him? Just what's what's that line from Seinfeld? It's
51:22
like I want to I want to dip my whole, my bald head in
51:25
oil and rub it all over your body. Jesus, I haven't seen that
51:28
one. Oh yeah, well that's episode two hundred and thirty five. I'm
51:32
start at SG one Bounty head along to start at Atlantis the Pegasus Scalacy next
51:38
week. What's that one called, Maddie? Where we going? What do
51:40
you got for me? Some probably notice would be good. I think the
51:45
game? Sorry, it is the game. It is a game. Yes,
51:49
then why did you ask me? No? No, I'm just looking
51:50
it up MYSELFE. I can trust you to have I can say when we
51:54
do this live, I can confidently say to you the game. I mean,
51:58
we're going to crush this when we go live, one hell of a
52:00
wrestle. Yeah, all right, take five and uh, we'll do it
52:02
for real. Get into Geek, get into Gate, get into gate Stargate
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