Latest / The M&M Experience / Tuesday October 27, 2026 | Cheesecake Factory, Obstructionist Republicans and The Price of Fame
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- 0:22Speaker 2: If it is one week to the midterms, and it is,
- 0:25Speaker 2: it must be Tuesday, October 27th, 2026.
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- 1:02Speaker 2: Mike Gallagher, national legend, Salem Radio Network, Salem News Channel.
- 1:06Speaker 2: One week to go. And I tell you what we
- 1:07Speaker 2: ought to do right as soon as we're done with
- 1:09Speaker 2: today's exercise. I say we all go out for a
- 1:11Speaker 2: big honking meal at Cheesecake Factory. Who's with me?
- 1:15Speaker 3: Like Scott Besson did, which was right in the spirit
- 1:19Speaker 3: of President Trump working at McDonald's in the drive-thru window
- 1:23Speaker 3: or driving the garbage truck. The Treasury Secretary, Scott Besson,
- 1:27Speaker 3: went to the Cheesecake Factory yesterday and And I want
- 1:30Speaker 3: to get into Cheesecake Factory Gate here in a minute.
- 1:36Speaker 3: But before we do that, I'm sitting a little bit
- 1:39Speaker 3: uncomfortably because I don't have a lot left back down
- 1:41Speaker 3: there after today's show. I got in trouble on two
- 1:44Speaker 3: big issues today.
- 1:46Speaker 2: What did you do?
- 1:47Speaker 3: Well, number one, I don't know why I brought this up.
- 1:51Speaker 3: And as Eric Hansen, our ops manager, said, Look, 2020
- 1:54Speaker 3: was six years ago. Right. And we cannot we cannot
- 1:58Speaker 3: get in the way of ourselves with the midterms a
- 2:01Speaker 3: week away. But there was something something came up about, oh,
- 2:05Speaker 3: it was Brett Baer went on social media. And he
- 2:08Speaker 3: pushed back against somebody who's blaming Fox for calling Arizona
- 2:12Speaker 3: too early.
- 2:13Speaker 2: Good Lord.
- 2:15Speaker 3: I know.
- 2:15Speaker 1: I know.
- 2:17Speaker 3: But it's a big issue for people. It's a big
- 2:20Speaker 3: issue to me, but there's a time and a place. Well,
- 2:23Speaker 3: but here's the problem with the big issue. It ain't
- 2:25Speaker 3: an issue. Fox called Arizona early. Two hours and 20 minutes,
- 2:35Speaker 3: as Brett Baer pointed out, Fox called Arizona for Biden
- 2:39Speaker 3: two hours and 20 minutes after the polls closed in Arizona.
- 2:42Speaker 3: All right. And 73 percent of the vote was in. Right.
- 2:46Speaker 3: But people don't remember that. You know what they think?
- 2:50Speaker 3: They think Fox News called Arizona before the polls were closed.
- 2:55Speaker 3: which is not true. No. And they think that they
- 2:58Speaker 3: called it when there was only 1% of the vote counted.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Oh, Lord.
- 3:01Speaker 3: That's the memory people have, Mark. And it's one of
- 3:04Speaker 3: those weird mind tricks where people convince themselves because they
- 3:09Speaker 3: want to be mad at something. You know, we all
- 3:11Speaker 3: want to be pissed off at something or somebody.
- 3:13Speaker 2: And we're all so hopped up about everything 2020, and
- 3:16Speaker 2: there's so much to be properly.
- 3:18Speaker 3: Hopped up about. Rightfully so. That it just atomizes out
- 3:20Speaker 3: across the entire landscape. So I got in trouble on that.
- 3:23Speaker 3: So I'm all in a bloodbath. We were arguing about
- 3:26Speaker 3: what's daylight savings time, what's eastern time, what's mountain time, blah, blah, blah.
- 3:31Speaker 2: You know what it takes me back to? Florida, 2000, where–
- 3:38Speaker 2: and listen, I don't want to fall victim to the
- 3:39Speaker 2: same thing you and I were just talking about. When
- 3:43Speaker 2: the network started calling– I think this is true– A network,
- 3:47Speaker 2: maybe more than one, called Florida.
- 3:49Speaker 3: Yes.
- 3:50Speaker 2: But Florida is in two time zones, too.
- 3:52Speaker 4: That's right.
- 3:52Speaker 2: That Western Panhandle, Pensacola, Panama City are so far west.
- 3:56Speaker 2: That's halfway to Texas.
- 3:57Speaker 3: That's right. That's right.
- 3:59Speaker 2: The polls were still open, and that is a conservative
- 4:02Speaker 2: part of the state.
- 4:03Speaker 3: And everybody went, wait, what are you doing? People are
- 4:05Speaker 3: still voting. So it's not like that's not a thing.
- 4:07Speaker 2: That's right.
- 4:08Speaker 3: And that's a thing. That's valid and that's stupid and
- 4:11Speaker 3: that's egregious. But that isn't what happened with Phoenix.
- 4:14Speaker 5: No, exactly.
- 4:14Speaker 2: With Arizona. Not relevant to Arizona.
- 4:16Speaker 3: People just don't get that. So that was the first
- 4:18Speaker 3: thing I got in trouble about. Then I mixed it
- 4:21Speaker 3: up with a caller named Angie from South Carolina who
- 4:24Speaker 3: says I'm wrong and in insisting that you got to
- 4:28Speaker 3: support Darlene. Oh, no. And she got into it. We
- 4:32Speaker 3: got into it big time.
- 4:33Speaker 5: Well.
- 4:34Speaker 3: Now, thankfully, the vast majority of people understand whether it's
- 4:38Speaker 3: John Cornyn being butthurt in Texas or Ralph Norman being
- 4:44Speaker 3: agitated in South Carolina. You've got to dust yourself off
- 4:48Speaker 3: and you've got to support the Republican nominee.
- 4:50Speaker 2: Get over yourself and lick your wounds and get in
- 4:52Speaker 2: there and help beat Democrats. And there's no excuse for
- 4:54Speaker 2: not doing it.
- 4:55Speaker 3: So here was Angie's argument. Her argument was Trump shouldn't
- 5:02Speaker 3: have meddled in South Carolina's election. He was mad that
- 5:06Speaker 3: Ralph Norman— endorse Nikki Haley for president. And I kept saying,
- 5:11Speaker 3: all right, well, that's yesterday's news.
- 5:12Speaker 2: Who cares?
- 5:13Speaker 3: Who cares? You got to, you got, nope. She said,
- 5:16Speaker 3: I said, who, so you're going to vote for Annie Andrews? Oh,
- 5:18Speaker 3: she goes, I couldn't vote for a communist. Crazy. I said, well, well,
- 5:23Speaker 3: then you're going to vote for Darlene, right?
- 5:25Speaker 4: Nope.
- 5:25Speaker 3: I will not vote for either one of them. That
- 5:28Speaker 3: I said, well, that'll show up for Annie. That helps
- 5:30Speaker 3: her win. So, of course it does. So, and, and,
- 5:33Speaker 3: but she disputed that. And thankfully, the good news is,
- 5:38Speaker 3: unlike the Fox calling Arizona early, I didn't get in
- 5:42Speaker 3: a lot of trouble on this one.
- 5:43Speaker 2: I was going to say conservatives ran to your defense
- 5:45Speaker 2: on that one.
- 5:46Speaker 3: Normal people understand. You've got to show up. God forbid
- 5:49Speaker 3: if Annie Andrews winds up becoming the senator. Look at
- 5:54Speaker 3: her record. Look at what she believes. Look at her ideology.
- 5:59Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Darlene, wasn't my choice either. I like Ralph Norman.
- 6:02Speaker 3: I wanted Ralph to win. I traveled to Rock Hill.
- 6:05Speaker 3: You know why Trump's going to Rock Hill Thursday, right?
- 6:07Speaker 2: It's Ralph's backyard, right?
- 6:09Speaker 3: It's Ralph's home. It's his hometown.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Did I hear you on your vaunted radio show, your
- 6:14Speaker 2: storied and legendary radio show, very respectfully, and I'm not
- 6:19Speaker 2: kidding at all, very, very respectfully and in a friendly way,
- 6:23Speaker 2: cajole Ralph to go ahead and let's, for the greater good,
- 6:27Speaker 2: to show up at that rally in Rock Hill and
- 6:29Speaker 2: join hands with Trump and support Darlene?
- 6:31Speaker 3: Did I hear you correct? I'm not cajoling. I am
- 6:33Speaker 3: pleading with him to show up Thursday. Congressman Norman, you
- 6:37Speaker 3: should be on stage with President Trump, who you support,
- 6:41Speaker 3: and you should be on stage with Darlene, and you
- 6:43Speaker 3: should be advocating that every South Carolinian vote for her
- 6:47Speaker 3: rather than this lunatic Dr. Annie Andrews.
- 6:50Speaker 2: It'd be the best thing Ralph could do for his
- 6:51Speaker 2: own life. How old is Ralph? Ralph's not going to
- 6:53Speaker 2: be running for anything else anymore. This is Ralph's final
- 6:56Speaker 2: chapter in public life. Can you imagine what a favor
- 6:58Speaker 2: he would do for himself, for his legacy? He shouldn't
- 7:01Speaker 2: leave his voters in conflict, saying, Ralph, we loved you
- 7:04Speaker 2: for a long time. We can't believe that you're abandoning
- 7:06Speaker 2: the fight to not support Annie Andrews. It's the same
- 7:09Speaker 2: thing with Cornyn in Texas. We had that GOP midterm
- 7:12Speaker 2: thing that was so much fun. Do you know how
- 7:14Speaker 2: great it would have been? And conservatives have been badgering
- 7:17Speaker 2: me for decades that Cornyn needed to be primaried, that
- 7:20Speaker 2: Cornyn wasn't conservative enough. And this along comes the year
- 7:23Speaker 2: where the voters finally catch up to that. And that
- 7:26Speaker 2: is their taste. And Cornyn can't handle it. And bless
- 7:29Speaker 2: his heart, this man who has served Texas for so
- 7:31Speaker 2: many years in so many, at least fairly noble ways.
- 7:35Speaker 2: can't bring himself to pull his head out and support Paxton,
- 7:38Speaker 2: wouldn't that have been great at the GOP midterm convention?
- 7:41Speaker 2: To have Cornyn and Paxton, have Cornyn come up there
- 7:44Speaker 2: kind of sheepishly with a sense of humor and say,
- 7:46Speaker 2: this is not where I wanted to be. I wanted
- 7:48Speaker 2: to be your nominee, but the voters have spoken. I
- 7:50Speaker 2: respect the voters, and now Ken and I are going
- 7:52Speaker 2: to join hands, and we're going to go beat Democrats.
- 7:54Speaker 2: I would have had people who have been calling me
- 7:57Speaker 2: for decades to bag on Cornyn having to admit, you
- 8:00Speaker 2: know what? On the way out, the gentleman did the
- 8:02Speaker 2: right thing. Look, it's not hard. It's just not hard.
- 8:06Speaker 2: The time to battle for your candidate is the primary season.
- 8:09Speaker 2: Once the primaries are over, you've got to go with
- 8:11Speaker 2: the nominee. And what Ralph Norman.
- 8:15Speaker 3: Is agitated about, and I hate this because, again, I
- 8:17Speaker 3: like him, this stings, he's mad at the voters. He's
- 8:21Speaker 3: mad that he didn't win the primary. And, you know,
- 8:24Speaker 3: I hate to tell you, yes, Darlene was appointed after
- 8:27Speaker 3: her brother died, but the primary voters elected her to
- 8:31Speaker 3: be the nominee. And President Trump wants her and the
- 8:35Speaker 3: country needs a Republican from South Carolina. So look, I'm
- 8:38Speaker 3: hoping that.
- 8:39Speaker 2: It is a hissy fit and it's just it's petulant
- 8:42Speaker 2: and it's selfish and it's selfish.
- 8:45Speaker 3: It's narcissistic. It's selfish. Like one texter put it on
- 8:49Speaker 3: my show earlier today. It's like what our kids, how
- 8:52Speaker 3: they behave when they don't when they're little kids, they
- 8:54Speaker 3: don't get what they want. You've got to grow up,
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- 14:24Speaker 3: You know, Mark, it dawned on me, when we disagree,
- 14:27Speaker 3: it's often because you're giving... someone the benefit of the doubt.
- 14:32Speaker 3: In other words, it's your better angel. I've got to
- 14:36Speaker 3: learn better to not do that.
- 14:39Speaker 2: I'm teasing.
- 14:40Speaker 3: I respect you for this because the whole world seems
- 14:44Speaker 3: to be erupting at Barack Obama mocking Trump and the
- 14:48Speaker 3: White House restorations. And when I brought it up to
- 14:51Speaker 3: you this morning, you were like, oh, well, come on.
- 14:53Speaker 3: He's just making a joke. It's not really about the
- 14:56Speaker 3: Cheesecake Factory thing. But many, many influencers and hosts and
- 15:02Speaker 3: writers did make it about the Cheesecake Factory because they said, look,
- 15:06Speaker 3: this is a– can I play some Clay Travis for
- 15:08Speaker 3: you and get your analysis of what he said? If
- 15:11Speaker 3: you don't mind, I want to play this. Clay Travis,
- 15:13Speaker 3: a fellow podcaster and a radio host, great guy, you know,
- 15:16Speaker 3: Buck and Clay or Clay or Buck, whatever they call it.
- 15:19Speaker 3: And he– on his own show– did an analysis about
- 15:23Speaker 3: how pitifully out of touch Democrats are when they make
- 15:28Speaker 3: fun of something like the Cheesecake Factory. Here's Clay.
- 15:32Speaker 5: Barack Obama did a rally where he made fun of
- 15:40Speaker 5: President Trump's style designs, saying that it looked like Saddam
- 15:44Speaker 5: Hussein designed a Cheesecake Factory.
- 15:47Speaker 4: And I do think this is important. And I think
- 15:51Speaker 4: about it regularly.
- 15:53Speaker 5: The degree to which people look down on those of
- 15:56Speaker 5: us who go to chain restaurants is, I think, legion
- 16:02Speaker 5: across many different elite parts of society. But I think
- 16:06Speaker 5: it's indicative of how out of touch Barack Obama is
- 16:10Speaker 5: that he's mocking the Cheesecake Factory, which is a place
- 16:14Speaker 5: that lots of people, including me, for much of my life,
- 16:18Speaker 5: saw as an aspirational place to go eat. I've grown
- 16:23Speaker 5: up going to Cheesecake Factories if I have the money
- 16:26Speaker 5: to be able to afford it. There were lots of
- 16:28Speaker 5: times in my life where the Cheesecake Factory was the
- 16:32Speaker 5: most expensive place that we could go to for a
- 16:35Speaker 5: fancy dinner. The Cheesecake Factory is, I think, expensive for
- 16:38Speaker 5: the average American consumer out there. I've gotten made fun
- 16:42Speaker 5: of over the years for talking about how much I
- 16:44Speaker 5: loved places like O'Charlie's, for how much I loved places
- 16:49Speaker 5: like Zaxby's.
- 16:51Speaker 4: I am a fast food kid. I am a chain
- 16:54Speaker 4: restaurant kid.
- 16:55Speaker 5: That's the lifestyle that I was grown up being able
- 16:59Speaker 5: to experience. Neither of my parents ever made $ 50, 000 a
- 17:04Speaker 5: year at their jobs ever in my entire life. So
- 17:08Speaker 5: I do think when you hear politicians mocking other politicians
- 17:14Speaker 5: by denigrating places that people could go eat, that most
- 17:18Speaker 5: Americans can't afford to go eat at, I think they're telling,
- 17:21Speaker 5: the politicians are, and the so-called elite people are telling
- 17:25Speaker 5: on themselves. I think Barack Obama is actually telling on
- 17:28Speaker 5: himself by trying to make fun of President Trump. To me,
- 17:35Speaker 5: I have only in the last decade or so been
- 17:38Speaker 5: comfortable going to a restaurant and not intentionally avoiding Ordering
- 17:45Speaker 5: the first thing on the most expensive thing on the menu.
- 17:49Speaker 5: Only in the last few years have I been comfortable
- 17:51Speaker 5: going into a restaurant and just ordering whatever I wanted
- 17:54Speaker 5: to have the resources, the financial ability to not have
- 17:58Speaker 5: to think about what a meal costs in a restaurant,
- 18:01Speaker 5: to not have to intentionally avoid ordering.
- 18:04Speaker 4: The most expensive thing. I think that kind of knowledge.
- 18:07Speaker 3: I like, I like, I like what he says. We
- 18:09Speaker 3: don't need to play the whole thing, but I like,
- 18:11Speaker 3: I like, he brings, he brings up some more interesting
- 18:13Speaker 3: concepts about going from, you know, Hey, looking forward to
- 18:18Speaker 3: the cheesecake and maybe saving up and going, taking the
- 18:20Speaker 3: family out to dinner and then not, and then making
- 18:22Speaker 3: enough money in life where you don't have to worry
- 18:24Speaker 3: about it. And that's, that's one theme. But the other theme, Mark,
- 18:27Speaker 3: that I think lands, and maybe you don't agree with it,
- 18:30Speaker 3: but Todd Starnes wrote this on X. He said for years,
- 18:33Speaker 3: Eating at the Cheesecake Factory or Olive Garden or Red
- 18:37Speaker 3: Lobster was a special occasion for many American families. It
- 18:40Speaker 3: was a luxury reserved for maybe graduation or anniversary. Meanwhile,
- 18:44Speaker 3: Barack Obama and his spouse regularly dine at upscale restaurants
- 18:48Speaker 3: around the world, including one diner where the tasting menu
- 18:52Speaker 3: cost $ 390 per person. He said the melted condensation costs extra.
- 18:59Speaker 3: No smelly Walmart people for him. or bitter Americans clinging
- 19:03Speaker 3: to their guns and religion. That's Obama's puffed-up world. You
- 19:07Speaker 3: think that's overdoing it?
- 19:08Speaker 2: It's by a million degrees, and I'm here for it.
- 19:13Speaker 2: This is lovely. Every point about Obama's elitism lands. Everything about, totally, totally, totally,
- 19:22Speaker 2: absolutely full harmony. I get it. I'll kick Obama in
- 19:24Speaker 2: the nuts with you every day, all day, whenever you want.
- 19:28Speaker 2: But please understand this. We have looked for this. We
- 19:32Speaker 2: found this. We have weaponized this. And Clay and you
- 19:36Speaker 2: and everyone, I'm here. I'll sing in the chorus. Absolutely.
- 19:40Speaker 2: But understand one thing. If Shane Gillis made this joke
- 19:45Speaker 2: on SNL, conservative comic, we'd have gone, that's pretty funny,
- 19:50Speaker 2: and gotten on with our lives. So there's no, oh,
- 19:55Speaker 2: Obama's mocking Cheesecake Factory, Jiminy Christmas. Okay, sure, sure.
- 20:00Speaker 3: And fine. Well, I think the bigger picture is the
- 20:05Speaker 3: White House. An aerial photograph was released today of the
- 20:10Speaker 3: White House, and it shows that giant helipad that Obama mocked.
- 20:17Speaker 3: By the way, it looks beautiful. I love the ballroom.
- 20:22Speaker 3: I love the gold. Can you see the B-roll right now? Absolutely,
- 20:25Speaker 3: of course. Look at that middle picture of that helipad
- 20:28Speaker 3: with the giant— It's from Mars. It's fantastic. The presidential seal.
- 20:33Speaker 3: And Trump, though, has a practical explanation. I want you
- 20:38Speaker 3: to hear what Trump said. He responded to Obama. And
- 20:42Speaker 3: to quote you in the vernacular, he kicks Obama in
- 20:45Speaker 3: the nuts proverbially. But he gets his shots in here.
- 20:50Speaker 3: But he makes a very— Trump' s a builder. Ever stayed at
- 20:53Speaker 3: a Trump property? Mark, have you ever stayed at a
- 20:55Speaker 3: Trump hotel?
- 20:56Speaker 2: I have not actually stayed at one of the hotels.
- 20:58Speaker 3: It's one of the most luxurious hotels you'll ever stay in.
- 21:02Speaker 3: Every detail from the faucets to the carpeting to the wallpaper,
- 21:08Speaker 3: his properties are magnificent. They all are, all around the country. Now,
- 21:12Speaker 3: check out what a builder president sounds like in responding
- 21:16Speaker 3: to the cheap shot that Obama took at him the
- 21:18Speaker 3: other day.
- 21:19Speaker 6: I've taken care of the White House.
- 21:21Speaker 7: I fixed it with the finest artisans in the world.
- 21:26Speaker 7: We've reskinned it. It was in horrible shape. A lot
- 21:29Speaker 7: of the ornaments and the things that were originally built
- 21:33Speaker 7: on the White House were missing or damaged or gone
- 21:37Speaker 7: for a long time.
- 21:39Speaker 6: They were laying on the ground in some cases.
- 21:41Speaker 7: And it was in terrible shape. The exterior plaster was broken, cracked.
- 21:47Speaker 6: The painting was terrible.
- 21:48Speaker 7: And I've reskinned the building beautifully with the highest, most
- 21:53Speaker 7: talented people.
- 21:55Speaker 6: Anywhere in the world, you're not going to find one town.
- 21:57Speaker 7: And the White House looks beautiful. And guys like Obama,
- 22:02Speaker 7: they would pass the front door. They'd see the broken masonry.
- 22:06Speaker 7: They'd see the broken, the beautiful pilasters that were all broken.
- 22:12Speaker 6: For years, they were broken.
- 22:13Speaker 7: And he wouldn't notice because he doesn't notice that. He
- 22:16Speaker 7: doesn't notice dirt and filth that hadn't been cleaned, where
- 22:19Speaker 7: the walls hadn't been cleaned for years. He doesn't notice
- 22:23Speaker 7: areas that haven't been painted. So it's very easy for
- 22:26Speaker 7: me to do. I do it very, very simply because
- 22:29Speaker 7: it's my nature.
- 22:30Speaker 6: You know, I'm a very clean person. And the White
- 22:34Speaker 6: House was in terrible shape.
- 22:36Speaker 7: The White House is now in the best shape it's
- 22:38Speaker 7: been since 1792.
- 22:41Speaker 6: When it was built. It's in beautiful shape. You take
- 22:44Speaker 6: a look at it. It looks beautiful. And I'm proud
- 22:46Speaker 6: to do it.
- 22:47Speaker 7: I do it with five minutes a day, 10 minutes
- 22:50Speaker 7: a day. And they're very talented people. They work there.
- 22:54Speaker 6: Many of them are in Department of Interior. They work there.
- 22:57Speaker 7: They've done a fantastic job. You have to remember, the
- 23:01Speaker 7: White House, we have to explain that to Obama, because
- 23:03Speaker 7: he doesn't understand it, because he's not a smart guy,
- 23:06Speaker 7: let me tell you. In my opinion, he's not smart
- 23:08Speaker 7: at all, because the way he ran the country.
- 23:10Speaker 6: Only a stupid person would run the country like that.
- 23:14Speaker 7: But we have to explain to Obama that the White
- 23:16Speaker 7: House is a symbol of America, and it has to
- 23:19Speaker 7: be maintained properly. It has to be painted, and the
- 23:22Speaker 7: exterior plaster can't be fallen.
- 23:24Speaker 6: Off the walls.
- 23:26Speaker 7: And the decorations and ornaments around the windows that are
- 23:29Speaker 7: magnificent can't be on one side of the window and.
- 23:33Speaker 6: Fall it off on the other side.
- 23:35Speaker 7: So we took molds of the one side and we
- 23:37Speaker 7: put it on the other side and we did a
- 23:39Speaker 7: beautiful job.
- 23:39Speaker 6: Very little money spent. It's not about money.
- 23:42Speaker 7: It's about seeing. Guys like Obama don't see it. You
- 23:46Speaker 7: don't see dirt.
- 23:47Speaker 6: He doesn't see filth. He doesn't see broken ornaments on
- 23:50Speaker 6: a building.
- 23:51Speaker 7: The White House to President Obama is a symbol of America.
- 23:57Speaker 6: It has to be clean. The columns can't be broken.
- 24:02Speaker 7: The bricks can't be falling off from under the plaster.
- 24:06Speaker 7: And for you to say it's a cheesecake factory, that
- 24:10Speaker 7: just shows why you are a lousy president.
- 24:14Speaker 4: It's so awesome.
- 24:16Speaker 3: We're going to miss this. How much are we going
- 24:18Speaker 3: to miss this guy?
- 24:19Speaker 2: I just, I can't. We'll have a lovely successor to him, J.D. Vance, Rubio, DeSantis.
- 24:24Speaker 2: It's going to be great. It'll be another MAGA-style president.
- 24:27Speaker 2: But we will cherish these days. You shared a memory
- 24:31Speaker 2: on this point with me on the radio, and I
- 24:34Speaker 2: had to sort of scrape my own memory banks. To
- 24:38Speaker 2: be bipartisan about this, President talked about how every president,
- 24:41Speaker 2: seems like the president is saying, that every president has
- 24:44Speaker 2: a responsibility to keep the White House in as good
- 24:47Speaker 2: a shape as it can possibly be. And you took
- 24:49Speaker 2: me back to December of 2008, when you and I
- 24:54Speaker 2: and a number of other hosts, about five or six
- 24:57Speaker 2: total people, were in the Oval Office with outgoing President
- 25:00Speaker 2: George W. Bush, who had put out the call to
- 25:03Speaker 2: talk to some of his radio buddies. We were there.
- 25:05Speaker 3: It was great.
- 25:06Speaker 2: It was unbelievable. It was my first time in there.
- 25:08Speaker 2: Couldn't believe it. It was like your 10th, you know, but,
- 25:11Speaker 2: but you, but you may be observation and maybe you're more,
- 25:14Speaker 2: you know, Felix Unger than I am. You, you, this
- 25:17Speaker 2: is after eight years of Bush. You found the Oval
- 25:21Speaker 2: Office and the White House to be a little, a
- 25:23Speaker 2: little ratty at that time.
- 25:24Speaker 3: It was, it was.
- 25:26Speaker 2: And I don't remember that at all. I was probably
- 25:27Speaker 2: just like, oh, we're in the Oval Office. So I
- 25:29Speaker 2: probably wasn't as honed as, as, as you were to this,
- 25:32Speaker 2: but it was, was it a little, a little rough.
- 25:34Speaker 3: Around the edges? The carpet was filthy. I mean, it
- 25:37Speaker 3: was crazy. And I chalked it up to all the
- 25:41Speaker 3: traffic that goes in and out of there. And plus
- 25:43Speaker 3: the dogs. Do you remember the dogs going in and out?
- 25:46Speaker 3: He had the door open and he had those little,
- 25:48Speaker 3: I forget, those little terrier kind of dogs that the
- 25:51Speaker 3: bushes loved. There were like two black dogs that were running,
- 25:56Speaker 3: galloping in and out of the Oval Office while we
- 25:58Speaker 3: were in there. Uh, which, but, but the carpet was dirty.
- 26:02Speaker 3: You know, one of the things that you and I
- 26:04Speaker 3: talked about afterwards is how bad the acoustics are. Cause
- 26:07Speaker 3: it's an oval, it's a round room. It's an, it's
- 26:09Speaker 3: an oval office, you know, and the acoustics, it's kind
- 26:12Speaker 3: of a weird, cause we, you know, you and I
- 26:14Speaker 3: sat there, here's a couple of guys, just big mouth
- 26:17Speaker 3: talk show hosts. In a place where history, just if
- 26:21Speaker 3: those walls could talk.
- 26:22Speaker 2: The decisions made in there, the people, the leaders, the
- 26:26Speaker 2: world-changing events that have come right out of that room.
- 26:30Speaker 3: Kennedy, Reagan.
- 26:31Speaker 1: FDR.
- 26:32Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh. Just the greats of our lifetime. And
- 26:35Speaker 3: you think about all of that that took place where
- 26:38Speaker 3: you and I have been invited. I think I've been
- 26:40Speaker 3: to the Oval Office seven times in my lifetime, which
- 26:43Speaker 3: is pretty extraordinary, I think. three times with Bush and
- 26:49Speaker 3: maybe four times with Trump. It's such a privilege and
- 26:52Speaker 3: it's an honor. But Mark, what Trump said gave me
- 26:56Speaker 3: chills because he's right. It's the people's house. And he's
- 26:59Speaker 3: committed to saying, I want this thing to be pristine.
- 27:03Speaker 3: I want this place to be beautiful. I mean, if
- 27:06Speaker 3: God forbid a Democrat wins, what are they going to do?
- 27:08Speaker 3: Tear down the ballroom? You're going to take a pickaxe
- 27:12Speaker 3: to the helipad, which incidentally, besides being beautiful and magnificent
- 27:17Speaker 3: and showcases the White House, is practical because these new
- 27:21Speaker 3: Sikorsky helicopters, they burn the grass off every time they
- 27:25Speaker 3: take off and they land on the lawn.
- 27:27Speaker 2: And I think Sikorsky paid for most, if not all
- 27:30Speaker 2: of it.
- 27:30Speaker 3: Sikorsky paid for it. Well, thank you. That's the thing.
- 27:33Speaker 3: I mean, it's just, hello. How do you hate that?
- 27:36Speaker 3: If a Democrat did that, they'd be throwing him a
- 27:38Speaker 3: ticker tape parade, Mark. It just kind of makes me sick.
- 27:41Speaker 3: By the way, can I take us off topic for
- 27:43Speaker 3: just a minute?
- 27:44Speaker 2: Of course.
- 27:44Speaker 3: Before we came in here, I saw a video on
- 27:47Speaker 3: X of Mick Jagger strolling through Paris outside the Louvre.
- 27:54Speaker 3: You know what's fascinating? He's 83 years old.
- 27:57Speaker 6: Right.
- 27:58Speaker 3: And he had two security guards with him.
- 28:00Speaker 6: Right.
- 28:00Speaker 3: And as soon as people saw it was Mick Jagger,
- 28:03Speaker 3: you can imagine what the crowd did. And it was
- 28:06Speaker 3: at night. And he's walking, minding his own business, just
- 28:10Speaker 3: with these two bodyguards.
- 28:11Speaker 2: In Paris recently?
- 28:13Speaker 3: Well, think about that.
- 28:14Speaker 2: I hope they didn't set him on fire.
- 28:16Speaker 3: They did not, but I'll tell you what they did do.
- 28:18Speaker 3: The flash bulbs, I guess they still have, well, I
- 28:20Speaker 3: shouldn't say that. Flash bulbs? Well, the flashes, they were old-fashioned.
- 28:26Speaker 2: I understand completely.
- 28:27Speaker 3: But that's the paparazzi, you know, you could hear the
- 28:30Speaker 3: clicking and the lights popping, and they descended on him
- 28:34Speaker 3: like a pack of hyenas. It was the craziest thing. But, Mark,
- 28:39Speaker 3: think about how awful it would be to be famous.
- 28:43Speaker 3: Think about how you can't stroll down the street without having–
- 28:47Speaker 3: No normal life. No normal life. Would you give up–
- 28:51Speaker 3: if you were a multimillionaire and you became world famous,
- 28:55Speaker 3: would it be worth it?
- 28:57Speaker 2: Absolutely. Okay, first of all, if that was the path,
- 29:00Speaker 2: if we– because I'm sure– I'm sure Rush lived this,
- 29:04Speaker 2: lived that life. Rush Limbaugh could not, who was another
- 29:07Speaker 2: Florida resident for the final long chapter of doing talk shows,
- 29:11Speaker 2: he couldn't go to a movie.
- 29:14Speaker 3: Does Hannity go to a movie?
- 29:16Speaker 2: I bet largely not.
- 29:19Speaker 3: I mean, Hannity gets married the other day and social
- 29:22Speaker 3: media just ripped him to shreds. They went after that
- 29:26Speaker 3: marriage online like nothing. So, I mean, I don't know
- 29:30Speaker 3: how he walks down. I don't go. He doesn't go
- 29:31Speaker 3: to a movie.
- 29:32Speaker 6: No.
- 29:32Speaker 3: I mean, Laura.
- 29:33Speaker 2: If it's a restaurant, then they bring him in the
- 29:36Speaker 2: back and they have a hermetically sealed bank vault of
- 29:38Speaker 2: a room.
- 29:39Speaker 3: So it.
- 29:40Speaker 2: No it's not no it's not and i'm sure squillions
- 29:42Speaker 2: of dollars is very nice i'm sure it's great i
- 29:45Speaker 2: don't hear anybody saying hey make me unfamous because of
- 29:49Speaker 2: these slings and arrows of of the life of fame
- 29:51Speaker 2: But it really is a tradeoff.
- 29:53Speaker 3: Oh, that would be a hell. That would be a
- 29:56Speaker 3: hell on earth to think you can't walk down the
- 29:59Speaker 3: street if you're 83-year-old Mick Jagger without having– and you
- 30:03Speaker 3: know what? The video– I didn't repost it on X,
- 30:06Speaker 3: but you could probably find it on X. You could
- 30:08Speaker 3: see he gets kind of alarmed because it's night. As
- 30:12Speaker 3: you pointed out, it's Paris.
- 30:13Speaker 2: And it's Paris this week, so God only knows.
- 30:15Speaker 3: Yeah, this week. But he's looking around kind of nervously
- 30:19Speaker 3: because these people start yelling, Mick, Mick, we love you.
- 30:22Speaker 3: We love you. And the lights, the flashes are going
- 30:24Speaker 3: off and they're jumping him. And I've seen that scene
- 30:28Speaker 3: in New York City. Being a longtime Manhattan resident, I've
- 30:32Speaker 3: seen celebrities coming and going and how the paparazzi descend
- 30:35Speaker 3: on them. Yeah. Mark, it's scary. I mean, they're all
- 30:39Speaker 3: yelling and jockeying for a position.
- 30:42Speaker 2: Sure.
- 30:43Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, man, oh, man, you can't go for
- 30:45Speaker 3: a stroll in Central Park if you're famous. You couldn't
- 30:48Speaker 3: do it. You give up your whole life. You got
- 30:51Speaker 3: a great bank account. You got a lot of fame,
- 30:54Speaker 3: but you can't do anything else. You can't live your life. Look,
- 30:57Speaker 3: it's not, this is so stupid to compare myself to
- 31:00Speaker 3: anybody really famous because I'm not famous, but it's why
- 31:03Speaker 3: I quit Fox News. I was going.
- 31:06Speaker 2: To say, once you got recognizable enough that it became
- 31:09Speaker 2: what struck you as a net negative, you said, that's it,
- 31:11Speaker 2: I'm done.
- 31:12Speaker 3: I was out.
- 31:13Speaker 2: With your TV or with your Fox.
- 31:14Speaker 3: I didn't want to do Fox News because I was
- 31:17Speaker 3: doing a lot of Fox at the time. It was
- 31:19Speaker 3: 2016 and a guy dumped a milkshake on me and
- 31:21Speaker 3: cussed me out. And I thought, it's a milkshake today.
- 31:25Speaker 3: It might be a knife or a gun tomorrow. I
- 31:26Speaker 3: don't want to live this way. Now, all these Fox
- 31:28Speaker 3: News friends of mine, they all have bodyguards. They've all
- 31:30Speaker 3: got security. They have to. They have to. I'll bet
- 31:33Speaker 3: Dana Perino doesn't. She said the other day, I was
- 31:36Speaker 3: riding the subway. I thought, you ain't riding the subway.
- 31:38Speaker 3: No way Dana's riding the subway. Greg Gutfeld's shopping. Sean Hannity,
- 31:43Speaker 3: I love shopping at Walmart. Yeah, right.
- 31:44Speaker 2: You shop at Walmart.
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- 33:58Speaker 3: One week to go, my friend. I'm ready.
- 34:00Speaker 2: I'm feeling it. I like our chances.
- 34:02Speaker 3: Gird your loins. My loins are girded.
- 34:05Speaker 2: Whatever that means.
- 34:06Speaker 6: See ya.