Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Ghislaine Maxwell Seeks A Summary Judgement Against Virginia Roberts (Part 4) (6/6/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:04In this episode, we're going to dive right back in
- 0:06to the brief in support for a summary judgment for
- 0:10Glaine Maxwell. Factor number four. The broader setting surrounding the statement,
- 0:15including conventions that might signal to readers that the statement
- 0:19is likely opinion and not fact. It is undisputed that
- 0:23the January twenty fifteen statement was sent exclusively to more
- 0:27than six and fewer than thirty media representatives, each of
- 0:31whom expressly had requested from mister Gwo that he provided
- 0:34them with miss Maxwell's reply to the new Joint Motion
- 0:38Allegations Document five point forty two seven example K eight
- 0:43and ten. As was obvious from the statement, it was
- 0:46not a traditional press release. As such, press releases does
- 0:50not explain lawyer like why new allegations, when measured against
- 0:54previous allegations, lack credibility, nor does a traditional release threaten
- 0:59to sue the meetia to whom the release is sent.
- 1:02The media representatives, upon receiving the January twenty fifteen statement
- 1:07would have understood it was presenting an opinionated argument that
- 1:11plaintiff was not credible because of her inconsistent and shifting
- 1:16sex abuse story and her increasingly lurid allegations against more
- 1:20and more prominent individuals, and they would have understood that
- 1:24these characteristics of a storyteller undermine her credibility and ergo
- 1:28the credibility of her new allegations. In its twelve B
- 1:32six order, the Court said the three sentences have the
- 1:36effect of denying Plaintiff's story, but they also clearly constitute
- 1:40fact to the reader. The ruling is affected in two
- 1:43ways by the rule fifty six record. Based on the
- 1:46foregoing discussion of the evidence, the three sentences clearly constitute
- 1:50argumentative opinions of mister Barton on behalf of Miss Maxwell,
- 1:55though the court did not discuss who is the reader.
- 1:58This is important in Steinheil fact four. Under settled defamation
- 2:02opinion law, an allegedly defamatory statement is to be viewed
- 2:07from the perspective of the audience to whom it is
- 2:09addressed de bella verse Hopkins number one CIV. Eleven seven
- 2:15seventy nine, d C two zero zero two w L
- 2:18three one four two seven three six two AT two SDNY,
- 2:22October thirtieth, two thousand and two. Here the reader is
- 2:26six to thirty journalists, they could not have read the
- 2:29July twenty fifteen statement or the three allegedly defamatory sentences
- 2:34the same way it was read by these journalists audience, ie,
- 2:37the general public. This is because, as plaintiff implicitly concedes,
- 2:42these journalists only republish excerpts and not the entirety of
- 2:46the statement, which would have given context to the three sentences.
- 2:49It's axiomatic that an ad of context republication of the
- 2:53three sentences without the rest of the statement would deprive
- 2:57the reader of the logic and reasoning behind them. In
- 3:00the opinionated conclusion that plaintiff was making untrue allegations and
- 3:04telling obvious lies. Three, the pre litigation privilege bars this action. A.
- 3:11The privilege applies to the January twenty fifteen statement. Statements
- 3:15pertinent to a good faith anticipated litigation made by attorneys
- 3:19or their agents under their direction before the commencement of
- 3:22litigation are privileged, and no cause of action for defamation
- 3:26can be based on those statements Front Incorporated Verse Khalil
- 3:30twenty eight ne E three D fifteen sixteen and Y
- 3:34twenty fifteen. The facts that must be established therefore are
- 3:38A statement and B that is pertinent to a good
- 3:42faith anticipation litigation and C by attorneys or their agents
- 3:46under their direction. We did this See Memo of Law
- 3:50six through eight, thirty three through thirty eight, Document five
- 3:53forty two and five forty seven Example K. For example,
- 3:58mister Barton A drafted the vast majority of the January
- 4:01twenty fifteen statement and approved and adopted all of it.
- 4:05B directed mister Gow to send it to the media
- 4:07representatives who had requested Miss Maxwell's reply to Plaintiff's joint motion.
- 4:12Allegations C in the statement threatened legal action against these
- 4:16media representatives, and D at the time of the statement
- 4:20was contemplating litigation against the press recipients ID example K
- 4:24ten sixteen and seventeen, twenty eight and thirty. Plaintiff argues,
- 4:28without citation to authority, Miss Maxwell herself did not testify,
- 4:33she intended to sue. She hasn't offered any witnesses to testify.
- 4:37She intended to bring a lawsuit, she didn't in fact sue,
- 4:41and this one as a non sequitur, the statement was
- 4:44an attempt to continue to conceal her criminal acts. Response
- 4:48at forty one and forty two these arguments fail. The
- 4:51privilege exists without regard to whether Miss Maxwell testifies she
- 4:55intended to sue, whether she has witnessed to say she
- 4:59intended to sue, or whether she in fact sued. It
- 5:02refers to anticipated litigation, not guaranteed litigation. Indeed, the point
- 5:07of pre litigation privilege is to promote communications that avoid
- 5:11litigation see Khalil twenty eight, three d at nineteen. When
- 5:16litigation is anticipated, attorneys and parties should be free to
- 5:20communicate in order to reduce or avoid the need to
- 5:23actually commence litigation. It applies when there is a good
- 5:26faith basis to anticipate litigation. Mister Bardon, miss Maxwell's lawyer
- 5:31who drafted and caused the statement to be sent out
- 5:34actually was anticipating litigation. Document fifth five forty two through
- 5:39five forty seven, example, k at twenty eight. The argument
- 5:43that the statement was an attempt to conceal Miss Maxwell's
- 5:46criminal acts is incorrect. It would be hard to post
- 5:49facto conceal allege criminal acts that plaintiff luridly and salaciously
- 5:54described in an earlier public filing, i e. The CVRAA
- 5:58case in which the United States its government was the defendant.
- 6:01Citing no record evidence. Plaintiff argues the record evidence shows
- 6:05mister Barden did not make the January twenty fifteen statement,
- 6:10Response at forty two. That argument is easily disposed of
- 6:13by mister Barton's uncontested testimony. B malice is irrelevant to
- 6:19the pre litigation privilege. Citing the New York Court of
- 6:22Appeals decision in Khalil, We pointed out that malice is
- 6:26not relevant to the pre litigation privilege Memorandum of Law
- 6:30thirty four and thirty five. To prevail on the pre
- 6:33litigation privilege, the defendant need only establish one element the
- 6:37allegedly defamatory statement at issue was pertinent to a good
- 6:41faith anticipation litigation ID quoting Khalil twenty eight and E
- 6:46three d at sixteen. Plaintiff disputes this, and, without discussing
- 6:50Khalil or citing authorities, simply argues that pre litigation privilege
- 6:55is foreclosed because Miss Maxwell acted with malice Responsive forty three,
- 7:01as suggested by her inability to find any law to
- 7:04support her, plaintiff is wrong. Under general New York defamation law,
- 7:08the shield provided by a qualified privilege may be dissolved
- 7:11if plaintiff in rebuttal can show that the defendants spoke
- 7:15with malice Lieberman versus Gelstein, six oh five E two
- 7:19d three forty four, three forty nine, New York, nineteen
- 7:22ninety two. According to Khalil twenty eight E three d. At. Nineteen,
- 7:27malice means two things, spite or ill will and knowledge
- 7:30of falsity or reckless disregard of falsity Lieberman, six oh
- 7:35five E two d at. Three forty nine. Plaintiff relies
- 7:38on this general qualified privilege law. The problem for plaintiff
- 7:43is that in Khalil, the New York Court of Appeals
- 7:46held that general rule does not apply to the pre
- 7:48litigation privilege. Khalil worked for a company named FRONT. After
- 7:52eight years, he resigned and began working for EOC, one
- 7:56of Front's competitors. Front's lawyer, Kimmel, sent a demand letter
- 7:59to Col. Kalil, alleging he had committed criminal, tortious and
- 8:03ethical misconduct. Kimmel sent another demand letter to EOC and others,
- 8:08stating Khalil had conspired with EOC to breach his fiduciary
- 8:12duty to FONT. Six months later, Front sued Khalil. Khalil
- 8:16brought a third party claim against Kimmel for libel per se.
- 8:20The trial court dismissed the lawsuit, ruling that the letters
- 8:23were absolutely privileged under the litigation privilege and that it
- 8:27therefore did not need to reach the question of malice.
- 8:30Twenty eight et three d At seventeen. The Appellate Division affirmed,
- 8:35holding that the litigation privilege absolutely protected the letter because
- 8:40they were issued in the context of prospective litigation id
- 8:44At eighteen. The Court of Appeals affirmed but altered the
- 8:47law on the litigation privilege. It observed, although it is
- 8:51well settled that statements made in the course of litigation
- 8:54are entitled to absolute privilege, this Court has not directly
- 8:58addressed whether statements made by an attorney on behalf of
- 9:01his or her client in connection with prospective litigation are privileged.
- 9:07Some Appellate Division departments had held that absolute privilege applies
- 9:11to statements made in connection with prospective litigation, but other
- 9:15departments had held such statements were entitled only to qualified privilege.
- 9:20The answer to whether pre litigation statements should be absolute
- 9:24or qualified, the Court of Appeals held, is driven by
- 9:27the rationale for protecting pre litigation statements when litigation is anticipated,
- 9:33attorneys and parties should be free to communicate. In order
- 9:37to reduce or avoid the need to actually commence litigation.
- 9:40Attorneys often send cease and desist letters to avoid litigation.
- 9:45Communication during this pre litigation phase should be encouraged and
- 9:49not chilled by the possibility of being the basis for
- 9:52a defamation suit Idea nineteen. However, the court recognized that
- 9:57extending privilege status to communication made prior to anticipated litigation
- 10:02has the potential to be abused. Extending an absolute privilege
- 10:05to this context, the Court said, would be problematic and unnecessary.
- 10:10The court held it would recognize only a qualified privilege
- 10:13for pre litigation communications. Crucially to the case at Bar,
- 10:17the court held that the traditional privilege rebuttal malice was
- 10:21inapplicable to the pre litigation privilege. Rather than applying the
- 10:25general malice standard to this pre litigation stage, the privilege
- 10:29should only be applied to statements pertinent to a good
- 10:32faith anticipated litigation. This requirement ensures that privilege does not
- 10:37protect attorneys who are seeking to bully, harass, or intimidate
- 10:41their client's adversaries by threatening baseless litigation or by asserting
- 10:46wholly on meritis claims unsupported in law and fact in
- 10:51violation of Council's ethical obligations. Therefore, we hold that statements
- 10:55made prior to the commencement of an anticipated litigation or privilege,
- 11:00and that the privilege is lost where a defendant proves
- 11:03that the statements were not pertinent to a good faith
- 11:06anticipated litigation. Accordingly, the only question is whether the January
- 11:11twenty fifteen statement mister Barden caused to be issued to
- 11:14the six to thirty journalists was pertinent to a good
- 11:17faith anticipated litigation. The undisputed evidence establishes that the answer
- 11:22is yes. Mister Barden anticipated litigation. He fully complied with
- 11:27his ethical obligation as a lawyer. He was hardly bullying, harassing,
- 11:32or intimidating the six to thirty journalists, since he caused
- 11:35a press agent, mister Gow, to issue a statement, and
- 11:38he believed he had affirmative duty in representing Miss Maxwell
- 11:41to prepare the statement and cause it to be delivered
- 11:44to the journalists. Plantiff argues that when mister Barden issued
- 11:48the January twenty fifteen statement on Miss Maxwell's behalf, he
- 11:52had only wholly unmerit his claims unsupported in law in
- 11:56fact in violation of Council's ethical obligations and did not
- 11:59have good faith anticipated litigation response at forty six, quoting
- 12:04Khalil twenty eight ne E three d at nineteen. Plaintiff's
- 12:08rationale because she was telling the truth and so media
- 12:11would only be reporting the truth. That is nonsensical frivolous arguments.
- 12:16Whether mister Barden, who represents Miss Maxwell, had emeritis or
- 12:20good faith basis for anticipating defamation litigation has nothing to
- 12:24do with whether the media believe plaintiff was telling the truth,
- 12:28and surely not whether the plaintiff believed or said she
- 12:30was telling the truth. Based on this knowledge of plaintiff's history,
- 12:34mister Barden, in good faith believed that plaintiff had been
- 12:38making false allegations for years and that the falsity of
- 12:41the allegations should have been obvious to the media Document
- 12:45five point forty two through five forty seven example K thirteen, fourteen, sixteen, seventeen,
- 12:50twenty through twenty three, twenty six through twenty eight, and thirty. Accordingly,
- 12:55at the time he caused the statement to issue, mister
- 12:57Barden had a good faith basis to an end anticipate
- 13:00litigation against any of the media that republished Plaintiff's false allegations.
- 13:06It hardly matters for purpose of pre litigation privilege whether
- 13:09the media republished or did not republish Plaintiff's allegations, or
- 13:14whether mister Barden ultimately did or did not sue any
- 13:18of the media for republication. As the Khalil Court recognized,
- 13:22attorneys often send ceasoned desist letters to avoid litigation, and
- 13:27such letters have a valid purpose protected by the pre
- 13:31litigation privilege. Mister Barden testified that the January twenty fifteen
- 13:36statement in fact served as a cease and desist letter
- 13:40see Document five forty two through five forty seven, example
- 13:43K and seventeen. All right, folks, we're going to wrap
- 13:46up this episode here and then the next episode we'll
- 13:49pick up where we left off. All of the information
- 13:52that goes with this episode can be found in the
- 13:55description box.