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Kentucky Dogman Encounters & the Undead with Trenton Battle · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, I had myself muted. Good evening, everybody. It's the
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  Speaker 2: Cryptid Hunters. Welcome into the show tonight. My gosh, we've
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  Speaker 2: got a great show lined up for y'all this evening.
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  Speaker 2: We have a brand new guest to the Cryptid Hunters
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  Speaker 2: channel with us tonight. We have Trenton Battle in the
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  Speaker 2: studio tonight. Trent is here out of Kentucky and he
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  Speaker 2: has a Dogman encounter. He's got a bunch of encounters, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: He's also a state representative of the North American Dogman Project.
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  Speaker 2: down here in the South, okay? I guess Kentucky's kind
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  Speaker 2: of the South, right? I always considered it the South.
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  Speaker 2: But he is an investigator, a field researcher, and all
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  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. And he has an extensive background
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  Speaker 2: in paranormal investigating as well. And my goodness, I've never
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  Speaker 2: met a person, I don't think, that has had a
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  Speaker 2: real-life zombie encounter until tonight. And we're going to hear
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  Speaker 2: about that from Trent. So buckle up, Buttercups. This is
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  Speaker 2: going to be another great one tonight. I hope you
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  Speaker 2: guys are having a fantastic weekend. My goodness. I kind
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  Speaker 2: of had a lazy day today.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And I got a big weekend coming up next weekend.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be down at Cornwallis 1828 with the
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  Speaker 2: crowd at Squatch Fishing Outfitters down there and all these
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  Speaker 2: six other speakers, Bigfoot field researchers from all over the South,
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  Speaker 2: mostly Alabama. We're going to be down at a Bigfoot
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  Speaker 2: town hall next Saturday during the day. It starts early
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  Speaker 2: in the morning. And it goes until about, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: 5 o'clock or something like that. I'm speaking around 12
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  Speaker 2: o'clock that day. Alabama time.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: I know I'm in Georgia time. Central time zone. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be speaking around 12 or 1. We've got
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  Speaker 2: Tim Kubo Baker, Mark Green, Greg House, Mark Newbill, Flat Rock.
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  Speaker 2: One of my favorites. And Greg Ogles and myself are
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  Speaker 2: going to be down there speaking at this thing. And
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  Speaker 2: my goodness, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So that is if that speaker lineup isn't good enough.
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  Speaker 2: or like, it's fantastic. We've got some heavy hitters coming
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  Speaker 2: down just to hang out with us too down there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to give away who it is, but
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  Speaker 2: we've got some good folks coming down there. And so
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  Speaker 2: if y'all want to go to a great event, small,
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  Speaker 2: kind of a smaller event, I guess. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be pretty big, but we'll have vendors down
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  Speaker 2: there and people selling their books and all that. Some
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  Speaker 2: of the people that you guys know from my shows
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  Speaker 2: are going to be there and it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: a great time. So y'all come see me down at
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  Speaker 2: Cornwallis 1828 next weekend. There are other events coming up,
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  Speaker 2: including the Molina Bigfoot Festival is coming up in November, too.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, and you guys will see me popping up
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  Speaker 2: in other events, but I'm not going to announce those
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  Speaker 2: before it happens.
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  Speaker 1: OK. All right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, well, let's say let's get to our show. But
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  Speaker 2: first of all, y'all, if y'all want to check the
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  Speaker 2: Cryptid Huntress out, go over to my website, the Cryptid
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  Speaker 2: Huntress dot com. You can find all my links over there,
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  Speaker 2: my Patreon, my Etsy shop. Whatever you want. All my links,
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  Speaker 2: all my shows, all my calendar events, everything is over there.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's do this, y'all. We have Trent here with us.
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  Speaker 2: And like I said, it's the first time on the
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  Speaker 2: Cryptid Hunters channel. I'm super excited to have him here.
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  Speaker 2: We're going on the hunt with Trenton Battle to discuss
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  Speaker 2: his encounters with Dogman, an undead zombie encounter that he had.
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  Speaker 2: He's had missing time as well and numerous paranormal experiences
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  Speaker 2: throughout his life. Trenton is an avid outdoorsman with a
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  Speaker 2: love of kayaking, exploring caves. One of my least favorite
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  Speaker 2: things to do, but we're going to talk about that tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Hiking and camping. He's a member of the Kentucky chapter
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  Speaker 2: of the North American Dogman Project, taking eyewitness reports and
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  Speaker 2: investigating local dogman encounters in the Hawkinsville and land between
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  Speaker 2: the lakes area of Kentucky. He has a long history
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  Speaker 2: of paranormal research and investigations. You can follow him over
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  Speaker 2: on Between the Stream Network. streams with s paranormal you
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  Speaker 2: guys please help me welcome to the show mr trent
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  Speaker 2: battle what's up.
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  Speaker 1: Trent hello how are we doing tonight.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so excellent thank you so much for being here
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  Speaker 2: tonight i'm so excited to meet you this is gonna
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  Speaker 2: be fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yes happy happy international ghost hunting day and full moon tonight.
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  Speaker 2: So oh Oh, man, let me tell you, that moon,
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say, that moon tonight is gigantic
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  Speaker 2: and beautiful. If you guys have a good view of,
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  Speaker 2: can get a good view tonight, please go out and look.
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  Speaker 2: It was huge. My son and I left to go
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  Speaker 2: pick up a pizza earlier, and we were driving out.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I couldn't believe how big it was outside. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's going to be some people howling at it, I bet, tonight. Max,
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  Speaker 2: I know Max is in the chat.
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  Speaker 1: But.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you live up there around the LBL, Trent. I do.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of weird stuff happens around the full moon.
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  Speaker 2: Are you worried about that tonight?
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  Speaker 1: No. I've worked at a home for mentally handicapped adults
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  Speaker 1: for almost 25 years, and I know exactly what the
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  Speaker 1: full moon can do. Oh, yeah. It does.
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  Speaker 2: You know what? Well, there's a lot of interesting things
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  Speaker 2: that happen around the full moon, and that includes people
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  Speaker 2: showing up at the hospitals. Women have more babies on
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  Speaker 2: the full moon. I mean, this is what I've heard.
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  Speaker 2: This is the harvest moon, so we're harvesting some babies, maybe.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe so. In a good way, y'all. In a good way.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Oh, man. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I want to publicly say that
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  Speaker 2: I am just honored and just really, I really do
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  Speaker 2: appreciate the fact that you have been, you take the time,
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  Speaker 2: you watch my shows and you share my shows out
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  Speaker 2: online to your followers and stuff. And I just want
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  Speaker 2: to thank you from the bottom of my heart for that.
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  Speaker 2: It means the world to me.
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  Speaker 1: I've been a fan for a long time and you're
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  Speaker 1: connected to the team I'm around right now. So I,
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  Speaker 1: and I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, well, thank you. Thank you. I know, I knew
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  Speaker 2: we were going to have some stuff in common, Trent.
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  Speaker 2: I knew it. And we do. We actually know we
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  Speaker 2: do run with some of the same crowds. We know
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the same people.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And and actually one of my best friends lived. He
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  Speaker 2: lived up in Hopkinsville near that area. And Mark Maycheck
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  Speaker 2: passed away this past year. We knew him as Cryptoville.
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  Speaker 2: He's come on my show a lot. And he lived
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  Speaker 2: around there. Was that Fort Campbell? Is that the base
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  Speaker 2: that's up there?
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  Speaker 1: It's right on Tennessee, Kentucky Boulevard.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Well, I didn't get to meet him in
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  Speaker 2: person while he was alive, but I've been up there
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  Speaker 2: to the LBL since he passed at least three times,
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  Speaker 2: I think, going on four soon. But I didn't realize.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, my gosh, he's from Hopkinsville, where
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  Speaker 2: the Hopkinsville Goblins were. Back in the, what, the 50s?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually, the buddy, my buddy George Black, we just
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  Speaker 1: went to the Sasquatch Festival at the Blue Bridge Festival
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  Speaker 1: in Owensboro today. And he used to work with the
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  Speaker 1: lady that was the descendant from that family. Whoa.
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  Speaker 2: No way.
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  Speaker 1: And she used to tell that story to him over
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  Speaker 1: and over at the factory they worked in together. And Kelly, Kentucky,
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  Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about. There's an awesome display at
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  Speaker 1: the museum in Opensville. If anybody cares to go check
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  Speaker 1: it out, they've got an awesome display of the history
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  Speaker 1: of the whole incident. Along with Edgar Cayce from the
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  Speaker 1: same town. There's birds that, blackbirds all fell out of
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  Speaker 1: the sky.
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  Speaker 2: Blackbirds fell out of the sky?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. It's a very interesting museum. It's local, Rucka and Hopkinsville.
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  Speaker 1: But it tells a story. And it goes into like Blackpatch,
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  Speaker 1: the Midnight Riders and all that stuff too. But the
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  Speaker 1: paranormal history behind this whole area is something that, and
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  Speaker 1: that's one thing I'm, when I created Between the Streams,
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  Speaker 1: it's more or less a research project for me. Because
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  Speaker 1: there are so many. You got The Land Between the Lakes. area.
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  Speaker 1: It goes all the way down to Tennessee. We have
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  Speaker 1: Cairo right outside of Illinois and Missouri. You get into
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  Speaker 1: in Indiana and Illinois. You got Cave and Rock. It's
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  Speaker 1: the first serial killers. For God's sake.
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  Speaker 2: What? The first serial killers?
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  Speaker 1: In America, yeah. The Hart Brothers. Oh, no.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's scary.
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  Speaker 1: They're associated with that. Right at Cave and Rock.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And then the Underground Railroad goes up in to Illinois,
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  Speaker 1: and we have a slave house there that was, what
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  Speaker 1: they were actually doing was rescuing freed slaves and trapping
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  Speaker 1: them and breeding them.
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  Speaker 2: What? Good grief. That sounds horrible.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. This place was actually open for public museum when
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  Speaker 1: I was around 10, 11 years old. My parents took
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  Speaker 1: me there. It was a horrifying experience as far as
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  Speaker 1: the story behind it. But it was one of the
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  Speaker 1: most haunted places in America.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 1: And by the time I became a teenager, Murray State
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  Speaker 1: took it over, shut it down, and now you can
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  Speaker 1: no longer access the site. We've tried to do a
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  Speaker 1: documentary there just to document the ghost stories. But it's
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  Speaker 1: one of the one places in the whole United States
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  Speaker 1: that nobody is supposed to be able to spend the
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  Speaker 1: night and make it.
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  Speaker 2: And make it? What do you mean make? Did you
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  Speaker 2: say make it? Like live? No. Or do you mean
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  Speaker 2: like or get ran out of there?
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  Speaker 1: You mean like get ran out of there? Like a
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  Speaker 1: white rabbit on.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man. That's wild. Have you ever been there? Did
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  Speaker 2: you ever go and spend the night?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't spend the night, but I was. I was
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  Speaker 1: like 10 or 11. My parents took me there and
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  Speaker 1: we did the tour of the place. And it was just,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, a few years later, they shut it
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  Speaker 1: down and you cannot access it now. Period. So I
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  Speaker 1: think we have quite a bit of a, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to say it's a triangle, but we've got a
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  Speaker 1: paranormal area that just runs the gamut of anything. You
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  Speaker 1: name it. UFOs, Ghost encounters. Dogman. Bigfoot. Crawler.
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  Speaker 2: Little people?
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  Speaker 1: Little people, yes. Especially in Tennessee. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's something that Mark told us about. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if Mark told us. I know Barton came on
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  Speaker 2: and talked about it. I don't know if Mark talked
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  Speaker 2: about it too much, but he had actually watched a
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  Speaker 2: whole group of little people that looked like Pukwudgies That
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  Speaker 2: were wearing some kind of like porcupine pelts or something.
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  Speaker 2: That were like doing hopscotch under the streetlight near where
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  Speaker 2: he lived. He lived about 10 minutes from the LBL.
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  Speaker 2: And so he lived super close.
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  Speaker 1: That's a new one. I'll have to look into that one.
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  Speaker 2: Little puck wudgies.
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  Speaker 1: Puck wudgies.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Mark also had a bunch of, he had
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  Speaker 2: some dog man encounters and stuff, too. Now, before we
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  Speaker 2: get into that, I want to go back, I want
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  Speaker 2: to rewind a little bit, because you said you went
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  Speaker 2: to a Bigfoot festival today. What was that? What was
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  Speaker 2: the Bigfoot festival, and how was it?
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  Speaker 1: It was in Owensboro, Kentucky. It was their first one.
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  Speaker 1: I actually learned today we have a Ghostbusters team in
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  Speaker 1: southern Indiana. That's actually a paranormal team of investigators. They
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  Speaker 1: dress up just like Ghostbusters, have the whole backpacks and
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  Speaker 1: don't cross the streams and everything.
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  Speaker 2: Does Slimer show up too? Just kidding.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, you could get slimed and have a picture taken
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  Speaker 1: of it. Like I said, it was a smaller venue.
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  Speaker 1: We had Night Vision Paranormal showed up. Kentucky Bigfoot Research
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  Speaker 1: Organization showed up.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I know them. I handed out flyers for the NADP
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  Speaker 1: and Cryptid Illuminations this morning. It was fun. They had
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  Speaker 1: a car show. They had all kinds of food trucks.
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  Speaker 1: They had like three speakers throughout the day. Unfortunately, I
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  Speaker 1: worked third shift last night. I missed the first two.
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  Speaker 1: And the last one was going to be like three
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  Speaker 1: hours from when I got there. So, I had to bail.
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  Speaker 1: But that was just because I needed to be on
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  Speaker 1: your show.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. Well, I'm honored that you took the
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  Speaker 2: time out of the schedule, out of your schedule, come
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  Speaker 2: over here. I know, I bet you're probably tired. It's
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  Speaker 2: been a long day, hasn't it?
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  Speaker 1: I'm always tired. I'm holding in the weight, but... but
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  Speaker 1: we make it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man. I've been, I've been getting tired of
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  Speaker 2: myself lately. Okay. I'm just getting old. I think, but, uh,
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  Speaker 2: and I got, I got a young kid and I'm
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  Speaker 2: getting old. That's a problem.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: But, uh, but that sounds fun. That sounds really fun.
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  Speaker 2: I've noticed that in that area, uh, since I've been
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  Speaker 2: going up there, there's a lot of community support behind
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  Speaker 2: the cryptids up there. There really is. It's, it's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I've, I am a big fan of the
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  Speaker 2: people over at the golden pond distillery with Jimmy and
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  Speaker 2: his his mama Susie and, uh, and not all that
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  Speaker 2: whole crowd over there. And, um, and the LBL it's
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  Speaker 2: like the, the, what is it? The LBL board? I don't,
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  Speaker 2: I forgot what they're called. The friends of the LBL.
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  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Friends of LBL. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They've even taken interest in all this.
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  Speaker 1: The tourist commission is promoting the beast fest and the
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  Speaker 1: night walks with, uh, night vision paranormal out of Benton.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to be there. They're going to do that
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  Speaker 1: before the next beach fest that we're having in November. So.
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  Speaker 1: The cities and counties are taking interest. And that's odd.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just going to say that's odd. And I want
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  Speaker 1: to get into some of that because of mainstream media
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  Speaker 1: covering this stuff right now.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we're going to talk about all this because I
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  Speaker 2: love breaking things down a little bit and getting the
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  Speaker 2: locals' opinions on stuff. And first of all, I want
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  Speaker 2: to say, Miss Sassy Frass 86, thank you so much
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  Speaker 2: for that super sticker. Great work, Jessica.
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  Speaker 1: Cute.
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  Speaker 2: Cheering for chat. Oh my gosh. Thank you so much
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  Speaker 2: for your support, Ms. Sassy. I appreciate you. Well, speaking
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  Speaker 2: of support, it is, it is, it is, I think
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  Speaker 2: it's really cool that, that local governments and organizations and agencies,
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  Speaker 2: you know, kind of embrace the local Bigfoots. And I mean,
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  Speaker 2: now it's Dog Band, which is wild, but all their
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  Speaker 2: local cryptids, you know, the, the, we've got the Lizard
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  Speaker 2: Band Fest down in Bishopville, South Carolina, and we got,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Goatman festivals and all sorts of all, all
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  Speaker 2: these things.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, man, there's just a lot of, there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of support these days and it brings in, it
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  Speaker 2: brings in revenue.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: For the localities, but like the Lake Berkeley, is it Barkley?
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  Speaker 2: Lake Berkeley Beast Fest and stuff's coming up. I saw that.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that they're aware that there is a
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  Speaker 2: rumor that there was a family that was massacred by
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  Speaker 2: a dog man? Out there back in 1982.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's all based around. Exactly. They have to be
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  Speaker 1: aware of it.
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  Speaker 2: It is kind of odd, isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of it publicly, that's the odd part. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There's Mr. Barton Unley right there in the chat. What's up, Barton?
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  Speaker 2: Good to see you. This is like one of the
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  Speaker 2: Kings of the LBL right there. I'm going to say
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  Speaker 2: he's one of the, one of the top, top old school,
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  Speaker 2: longtime researchers of the LBL. So, and I enjoy, I
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  Speaker 2: think every time I've been to LBL, I've been with
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  Speaker 2: Barton and his wife, Tisha and, and Matt and Martin,
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  Speaker 2: all of them. So, so thank you for being here, Barton.
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  Speaker 1: Barton. I hope to meet Barton and Martin eventually. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully you'll get a chance to here in the next
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  Speaker 2: month or two. Hopefully. There's a lot of events going
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  Speaker 2: on up there. A lot of events going on.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, not to say that like, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think that these local governments, things like that, and
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  Speaker 2: these organizations, I think it's wonderful. They're accepting even the
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  Speaker 2: dogman conversation, putting it on the table and having festivals
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  Speaker 2: and things like that. It is tragic that that happened
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  Speaker 2: to that family out there. I do believe that happened.
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  Speaker 2: What is your opinion on that? Do you think that
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  Speaker 2: that family really did get massacred out there?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't. I don't see anything going against it
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  Speaker 1: as far as that goes. I mean, there's, you've got
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  Speaker 1: the rumor mill and, but the fact is you just
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  Speaker 1: have to take into account eyewitness testimony. True. And the
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  Speaker 1: eyewitnesses we have are the people that showed up after
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the fact, of course. Right.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I did see that documentary. I remember Jody said, that
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: to me when I was inquiring with him a while,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: a long time ago. And from the NADP, by the way. Okay. And,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: and I'd seen someone had, I do this thing. It's
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: called remote viewing. It's something I've been trained in for
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: over a decade now. And, you know, we, we utilize
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: that in the field with our field research for the
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot field research and for, you know, finding, helping finding
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: missing people and solving cold cases and stuff. We're going
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: to have a law enforcement and all yada, yada, yada.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: My audience knows all about it, but, um, but I
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: have been tasked that attack, that alleged attack as a
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: remote viewing target, which was a blind target. I didn't
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: know what I was remote viewing. And, uh, and I
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: was getting some interesting data on that attack and I
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: do believe it really happened. And, um, and I was
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: actually sent some, I sent Jody a message or something
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: and he sent me that documentary and, uh, and I
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: got to watch it and I thought, man, it really
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: lined up with, cause I, I wasn't even familiar with it.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I'm coming from a Bigfoot field researcher background, Trent.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: And I, we, we had just not come across a
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: lot of dog men over, over all these years. And
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I've been doing this since about 2011. I wasn't public
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: for 10 years. And then when I went public, I
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: started realizing that all these people were having dog man encounters.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: And, I'll be honest. I have been an avid explorer
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: of Land Between the Lakes since I was a child.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I've hiked the area. I ended up kayaking the area.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: And I was aware of the 82 experience, but it
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: never really crossed my mind to be a threat to me.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be honest. I'm a lifelong Paranormal enthusiasts.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I grew up. On ghosts. Cryptids. Loch Ness. Whatever. Bigfoot.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: You name it. UFOs. All that. Was part of my childhood.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Going into my teen years. But it's never been. Like
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: a fear to me.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: But.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Last year. Last year, I wound up in some pretty
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: dire straits. I was trying to buy a home and
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: ended up camping in the LBO for about three months
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: straight with me and my two dogs. And this was
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: probably the last week of September going into October of
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: that year, I had about a two-week window where I heard,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: it sounded like a hound dog that was in distress,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: like dire duress, trying to bark and trying to howl
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: at the same time. Strange sound. But in between, every
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: few minutes, you would hear this ungodly guttural growl. And
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: my dogs bark at everything. So if anything was in
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: our vicinity, they would bark at it. But every time
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: this growl would happen, they would turn to me and
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: look like, what was that, daddy? What was that? And
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: they would shut up, not say a word. And I
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: even tried to record it. At that time, I was
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: sleeping in a tent and I had my cell phone.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: That was all I had. But I tried to record it,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: but it was so far away it would not pick
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: up on audio. But the last time this thing actually
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: came down, there's probably 50 yards between where we were
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: at and the lake. And this thing came crashing through
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: the wood. You could hear it steps. You could hear
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: it crashing through the shallow water, splashing. You could hear
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: birds taking off as it came off, as it came
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: close to them. And I ain't gonna lie, it freaked
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: us out so bad, I forgot to even try to
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: record it at that point. But after that, I contacted
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: NADP because I had no idea what I had just heard, witnessed.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I just knew it was dog-related. And they reached back out.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Are you still there?
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Okay. They reached back out.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I'm just listening. I had the mute button pushed.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, so... Maybe I'm not even.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: No, I'm here.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I'm here.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I'm just listening.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I got a call from Marcus Ellis. He's our Mississippi.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Region five director. He's directly over me and he interviewed
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: me and I gave him my story. And we got
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: to talking and we became good friends over that phone
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: call and. He found out that I had been a
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: paranormal investigator for several years and had, I mean, say
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: what you will, paranormal versus cryptid, it's all going to
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: connect in the end.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: That's what I say. I know that to be true.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I was offered the Kentucky State Rep after my experience.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: And I decided to take him up on it. I'll
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: be kind of a lone wolf on that.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: I'm the new guy.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: And just as soon as I took it, I got
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: hit with a real big dose of real life. And
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I had to take a step back for a little bit.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: But right now I'm climbing my way back up. And
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I've got some people behind me. from a few different organizations.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: What I'm looking to do is take the NADP a
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: step further. I want to take the Dogman. Anytime you
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: have Dogman, Bigfoot, you've always got orbs. You got talk
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: of portals. I've even got people that have gotten EVPs
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: and things like that while investigating these things.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: That's why you watch my shows, isn't it? Because we
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: talk about all that because that's what we experienced too, Trent.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: It's just all connected. And I've been experiencing all that
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: since I started Bigfooting. I mean, I was experiencing that
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: when I was a kid, seeing orbs and stuff. But
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: there's always been a UFO connection portal. I mean, we
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: have all that with all the teams that I'm on
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: and stuff. It's just all connected. And Dogman, I mean,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I've even had people on my show that said they
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: saw Dogman coming out of a UFO.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: And people that were in the secret space program saying
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: they were riding in spacecraft with the Dogman and stuff.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: And real quick, I do have to acknowledge my good buddy, Mr.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Vic Cundiff is in the chat tonight. Thank you, Vic,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: for being here with Dogman Encounters, y'all. Oh, my gosh, Vic.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: It is so great to see you here. He said, hey, everyone,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: please don't forget to like and subscribe. I think you
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: do a great job, Vic. Thank you so much for
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: your support. And if y'all didn't know, Vic has one
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: of the, I'm going to say the best Dogman Encounters
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: podcast out there, hands down, with the most incredible content.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: dogman encounters, uh, people, real life, real, real life people
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: with real life encounters, werewolves and dogmen and, and Bigfoots
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: and other stuff on his other channels. Uh, but anyways,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: thank you for being here, Vic. Please come back on
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: my show soon. I'll hit you up. Okay. And, um, but, uh,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: but yeah, it's, it's really wild getting into like this.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, I, I too am also a lone wolf
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: of sorts. I guess you could say I kind of
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: went rogue actually after, uh, you know, I came out
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: on the scene talking about my experiences and I got
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: attacked a lot by a lot of people that didn't
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: want me here. And so I just, I just started
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: my own community over here. And, and it kind of
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: sounds like that's similar. Like you, you're a very forward
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: thinking person. Okay. Trent. And, and there's some, there's some
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: people that are like, maybe even organizations are actually hesitant
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: to bring all the X factor into these cryptid investigations and,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: and leaving those out of the reports.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: One thing I want to do is bring communities together.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Me and Marcus from region five, we've talked a lot
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: and we've connected with several paranormal communities to do some
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: lap over investigations where we you've got people investigating dog
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: man Bigfoot areas and then you've got the paranormal team
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: investigating around you that way you kind of You kind
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: of flank all sides. And that. And it's always. You
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: always get stories. Whether it's Bigfoot. Dogman. Rakes. Aliens. Whatever.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: They're always. Have the little same. You got spheres. You
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: got orbs. You got portals. Yes. And every time. it
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: all runs together.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: It kind of does. You're going to see that more, too.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Maybe not every time, but more times than not, it
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: runs together.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: It does, Trent. Actually, I just took a report recently
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: out of northwest Georgia. We're having a lot of dogman
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: reports out here and a lot of encounters. I have
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: been having them for the past three, four years now,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: I guess. There's just an influx for some reason. I
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: was contacted by a woman who had She didn't know
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: what was going on around her house. But after I
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: talked to her, it was 100 percent dogman activity around
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: her farm. And and there were other dogman encounters out
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: there just north of where she lives, actually. And I'm
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: not I can't give away the location or her name. OK,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: but she and I have become friends now. And it
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: included actually even a dogman walking around her house at
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: night and urinating all over her garage door. And stuff.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's, that's pretty typical. I think now she
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: has seen Bigfoots on her property since I investigated that
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: place about two, about a month or two ago, I guess.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: So there's Bigfoots out there.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Bigfoots are urinating on doors, but I've heard a dogman
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: doing that. So, but anyways, I'm saying that because there's
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: a lot, I mean, the uptick in dogman sightings and
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: encounters has, it's just, it's just weird. I don't know
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: why there's so many more now. I don't know if
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: they're like pushing a lot of the Bigfoots out of
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: the area or and they're kind of taken over or something,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: or they're just living harmoniously amongst the Bigfoots. I don't know.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: But we didn't have these reports back when I started Bigfooting.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: No.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: And like I said, I used to hike and kayak
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: LBL all the time. And I knew about the 82 incident,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: but it wasn't something that came back around. It came
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: back around. But in the last couple of years, It's
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: just like we're getting beat over the head with it.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: It's one after another. Oh yeah. And working with Tricia,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: they're getting, she's getting evidence almost legally out of the area.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Well, that's how you get it. She's out in the
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: woods a lot. What's up, Tricia? She's in the chat
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: tonight and I hope to see her again soon too.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: She's super awesome. And, and so Tricia, Yeah. That's what
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: it takes. You know, if you're going to get out
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: there and, and get the, the evidence, all that kind
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: of stuff and get these reports, it takes the boots
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: on the ground work. It definitely does. And I have
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: a huge appreciation for that out there.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: She gave me my first tour of the area. I've
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: done boots on the ground with her and we've got
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: some things coming up that we're planning on putting together
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: and seeing what we can work out.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: So.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's wonderful.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, the first time that I ever camped
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: out at LBL, not the first time I went, first
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: time I camped out there for a weekend, we had
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: the craziest, craziest time out there. And it was we
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: got ambushed at two o'clock in the morning. Me and
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: my friend Matt and we and well, Martin was there.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: He was asleep in his truck and Martin was there.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: His wife, they were sleeping. too, but we all got,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: we got ambushed. We got ambushed the second night too,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: the exact same time. But I was, I was so tired.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I was sleeping. I fell asleep because I had stayed
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: up the night before, um, until the sun came up
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: pretty much. Cause we were ambushed for over an, it
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: was like an hour to an hour and a half
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: straight in. But, and it was things just running around us,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: like on two, two feet that nothing was showing up
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: in my, um, my night vision. Um, it was, it
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: was wild. I started thinking only, could this be dog man?
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Is it Bigfoot? I didn't think it was Dogman. I
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: felt like it was either Bigfoot. We were camped out
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: by an Indian burial mound at the base of it.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: And the other side was the lake. And so they
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: were throwing rocks at us and pushing the vehicles and
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: all that stuff for over an hour.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Those burial mounds, they play a part in it also.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: You think so? I think so.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am, I do. Yeah.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: We have somebody in the chat. Miss Sasaga or Sasaga.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Maybe a guy. I'm sorry. Sasaga wants to know, what
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: is the NADP? What is that?
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: What is it, Trent?
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Everybody knows that. I'm just kidding.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Not everybody knows, actually. So it's actually a pretty good
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: resource for, like, the map. I've actually used it for, like,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: looking for.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: You know, looking for other dogman encounters. They have like
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: an encounters map that's interactive.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: We have revamped everything in the last couple months. We've
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: got a team that's going to revamp the whole map
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: to be current. We're working on things like we want
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: to help witnesses that have trauma or PTSD after witnessing
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: something like that. So we have a group to do
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: that with. We have an awesome science division run by Rochelle,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: and she has background in animal behavior. Her background is ridiculous,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: but she's had her own encounters on her property. Oh, wow.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: And she's leading our science division. We got a lot
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: of new things coming out. We're trying to work on
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: the podcast and get a little newsletter going here.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Y'all are bonafide over there, huh?
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: We're looking for new members. We are in need of people,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: especially in Georgia and South Carolina. If anybody has a
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: background in this area and wants to apply, please do.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Hit up Trent, y'all.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: You can go to NorthAmericanDogmanProject.com or NADPReports at gmail.com. All right.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, okay, so that's how I found out
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: about Dogman was through your Region 5 director a long
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: time ago. That was Bob Grumpy Wilson.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: And Bob was one, he was like my, he was
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: family to me. I was on his research team. It's
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: called North Georgia Cryptid Field Researchers. It was NGCR. So
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: North Georgia Cryptid Researchers. And he was the most badass
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: cryptid field researcher you'd ever meet. And unfortunately, a lot
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: of y'all probably never got to meet him. But Bob
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: was awesome. He was actually on some shows like Killing
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot and stuff. He was awesome. And so he was
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: actually on there. I think he ended up vacating his
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: spot at some point. But he was the Region 5
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: director for a little while. But anyways, that's how I learned.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: He actually left me some of his... paperwork and stuff from,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: from some of his investigations that he was doing on
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: dog man. And I learned everything I knew about dog
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: man through Bob, uh, as a matter of fact. So,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: so yeah. Oh, well, I wanted to, I wanted to
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: back up just a little bit. I want to hear
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: more about your dog man encounter. Cause we kind of
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: skimmed over that a little bit. And, uh, and so you're, you,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: you were camped out at a campground where you aren't,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: was it like at the lake or where, where was this?
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, you don't have to give the location away,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: but like.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: It was twin lake campground. It, It's not a campground.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: It's primitive camping. There's no electric or water or anything
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: like that there. But we were about 100 yards off
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: of the lake. There's like a tree line between where
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I was at and the lake. The last night we
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: were there, or the last night we heard this noise,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: It was right below us. And like I said, you
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: could hear it splashing. You could hear it crashing through sticks.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: And it freaked me and my dogs both out so bad.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I didn't even think to record it that night. But
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: right after that is when I reached out to NADP
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: and just to give my story because I didn't know
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: what I'd heard.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: That's cool that you did that and reached out to
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: somebody immediately because of the history of all the dog
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: men out there and stuff. And I learned from some
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: of my friends like Barton, who's in the chat tonight,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: and Mark Maycheck, and of course, Martin Groves as well.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: I learned through them, there's a lot of Bigfoots up
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: there as well. A lot of Bigfoots.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't believe the stories I've heard. I mean, just
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: coming into the community, the Land Between the Lakes is
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: a pretty much a toy land for cryptic dividend because
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I hear Everything from rakes and the W, the windigos.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I hear all of it.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. The last time I was there, Trent, we
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: went out to a cemetery. I think we went to
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: the Witch's Cemetery. I'm just going to leave it at that.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know where it was or who it was
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: or with what or nothing. I was just along for
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: the ride. I was riding in the backseat with Matt.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: And Miss Anna was with us. And I mean, we
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: just we just had it. We had a nice little
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: crowd with us.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: But but we went out there like three o'clock in
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: the morning. And and as we're driving out there, we
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: were all these trees. There had been a big storm
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: the day before. And so all these trees were like
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: blocking our roads and we couldn't get to certain places.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: And by the time that we finally got to this cemetery,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: it was creepy. And I don't get creeped out too easy.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: OK.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: And but we got to this graveyard and it was.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: After a while, we'd been there for a minute and
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: for a while. And then I started hearing clicking sounds
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: coming from all the outer side, like the tree line.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: All around it's clicking like this weird, this weird clicking sound.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: It kind of sounded like that. But in my mind,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: I kept thinking about what Mark told me. He was
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: talking about how they had, some of it looks kind
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: of like a pale crawler, but they're cannibalistic, if you
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. And by cannibalistic, I mean they
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: eat humans. So that would mean they're probably human. But
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're human. They'll eat you, though. And
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: in my mind, in my mind's eye, that's what I
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: was seeing all around us. I was like, oh, Lord.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: I was like, please, please protect us out here. And
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: I think Anna and I went and hobbled to the
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: truck at that point when we heard that. But there's
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: a lot of stuff. And I think it has to
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: do with those cemeteries, maybe.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: That's possible. I mean, the whole place is. Even, I mean,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: the whole area of cemeteries is around it, but even
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: the flooded area, they flooded a lot of cemeteries when
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: they built that lake. There was a lot of them
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: just underwater.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: And what about all the, I just mentioned that Indian
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Burial Mound where we were camped out, you know, that's,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, Whatever that was that ran down that hill
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: and then ran down the Indian Burial Mound. Because we
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: were like, there were some ridges on one side of us,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: like ridge lines, like hills. But that mound and then
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: the lake was in front of us. We were at
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: a perfect ambush spot.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Perfect.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Like we were asking for it. Basically.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: The property I bought was, and I didn't even think
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: about it. When I bought the property, had a little
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: trail of hills all around it. But I went to
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Mineral Mound Park one afternoon. It's like two miles down
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: the road from where I bought the property. And it
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: hit me. My whole property around it was just surrounded
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: by conical mounds. Now these hills are straight up and down.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: You can't just walk up it without Completely falling apart,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: losing your breath. To come down, you almost have to
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: come down on your hind end because it's so steep.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: You cannot traverse it.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Got to scoot?
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Got to scoot. I've had to chase my dogs up
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: and down a couple times.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, no. That's not fun.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Scooting.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Chasing them dogs. Once I looked at that, it was
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: during the snow, and I looked around and was like,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: you know what? It looks like I'm surrounded by Indians.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: And they're not on the map. They're not listed. They're
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: not anything. But just looking at the landscape. And whenever
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: summer gets here and the leaves bloom out, you can't
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: see them for nothing.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Well, that was the thing with that mound. We were
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: camped out beside it. It's not listed as an Indian
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: burial mound. And it just so happened I was with
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: some pretty good historians that know the area real well.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: And they knew that that was an Indian burial mound,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: but it's not listed anywhere. And I think that's the
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: case with a lot of these areas, especially around these,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: what are national parks and federal landing on stuff. I mean,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: I've been following this channel on TikTok. It's an account
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: on TikTok where they have this LIDAR. They just take
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: LIDAR scans of just regular people's properties all over the world.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: And they are filled with pyramids and burial mounds and stuff.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: And the people who live there probably don't even know.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: There's a account on X, Mound War. They do more
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: of the stuff that's known. But to see it in
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: LADAR versus what you see versus satellite, it's completely different.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. Well, do you think that there's a connection
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: between the burial mounds and Dogman?
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I do. I mean. There's so many stories about Dog
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Man being around the burial ground, being around cemeteries. I mean,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: it can go back into Egypt with Anubis. What was Anubis?
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: He was the guardian of the underworld. Now, we can
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: get into the film. Whether they're hybrids bread down from
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: biblical times. That's all possible. And I don't, when you
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: get in, okay. Right now, starting about March, we had
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: that Bigfoot flap in Ohio, right? Yes. And At the
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: same time, we had the green meteors coming across the sky. Yeah.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: And so maybe they were running from the meteors, whatnot.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, the New York Post and
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: the Daily Mail started publishing stories about this. And it grew.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Now they're publishing stories about the Book of Enoch. They're
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: publishing stories about aliens. They're publishing stories about aliens being demons.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: It's got mainstream.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: They're publishing stories about our congressmen talking about aliens being demons.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Reptilians. The U.S. government came out talking about the four
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: different types of ETs that have been recovered from crashes
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: and stuff. I mean, I've experienced some of them myself
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: in person, face to face. At least two types out
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: of the four, probably more. I think that half the
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: people I know are probably aliens. I'm just saying. I'm
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: just saying.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: It's just crazy. It is crazy. I mean, I grew
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: up on this stuff. But every conspiracy theory that I
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: grew up on, all of a sudden, it's true now.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: It's in the mainstream now.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Because the news says it.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: It don't matter if it's biblical. It don't matter if
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: it's paranormal. It don't matter if it's UFO scripted. It's
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: all out there. And it's all connected.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: It is. I agree with you on that. I mean,
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: they even found Noah's Ark now and stuff, which is cool.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's like, well, now the government admits it.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Now it's got to be true. We've been talking about
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: this for decades.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Not that I believe anything the government puts out. But
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying is it's out there in the mainstream media.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: So why now? Why right now? That's my question.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Because there's a narrative. Or maybe it's just because this
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: is the age of disclosure.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: And so that's, I mean, listen, I never in a
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: million years meant to be public about my Bigfoot research.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: And I kind of got, I got tricked. I said
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: that last night on Pops' podcast. Kind of got tricked
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: into talking at a conference back in 20, was that 20, no,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: it's 2021, I think, something like that, 2020. And I
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: did it willingly, but reluctantly. And I didn't think anybody
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: was going to be there to hear me. But the
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: room was packed wall to wall, standing room only when
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: I got in there. And I was shocked, shocked. And
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: it snowballed into me being here with you today, talking
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: on the Cryptid Hunters channel. But, you know, I've been
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: called to do this at this point. And a lot
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: of us have to, including my friend Shane. What's up, Shane?
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Shane Michael right here is in the chat with the
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: West Coast Dogman Project. What's up, Shane? I appreciate you.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: And so. thank you for being here. We've got a
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: lot of dog man folks in the chat tonight. Thank
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: y'all so much for being here and joining us tonight.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Uh, yeah.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Shane, Michael, Chris.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: So, um, yeah, thank y'all for the support. It means
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: the world to me y'all. Uh, but, uh, but you know,
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: we have been called to, uh, come forth with our
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: stories and tell our stories and, uh, for whatever reason,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: reluctantly or not, here we are.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: And, and it, and it's been very therapeutic for a
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: lot of us to be able to, to talk about
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: that and to share our stories and to have other
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: people come on my shows and stuff. And it's meeting
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: people out in public. I do a lot of public
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: events and, and getting to hear of other people's encounters
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: and it's traumatic and, OK, it's very traumatic, but I
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: feel like it's been like a slow trickle as far
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: as the disclosure goes with all this, because like here's. Yeah,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: there's some of us here on the front lines putting
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: it all out there, getting the arrows. You know, the
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: arrows are hitting us first. That's fine. OK, I've had
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: my share, but in bricks, whatever, tomatoes, whatever people are
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: throwing at me. And that's OK, because I know that
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: it's kind of paving the way for other people to
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: come forward. And to talk about it because here we
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: are with our government disclosing it. Now I've even had
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: people that contract with the government hitting me up, uh, inquiring.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: I think they were kind of poking around to see like,
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: if I'd be interested in, I don't know what they're,
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know what they're trying to figure out about me.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: I have no idea. But anyways, I know, right.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: It's, it is what it is, but I'm just saying
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: that there's a, over the past, like five years, I'm
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: going to say three to five years. Uh, it's almost
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: like the floodgates have opened. And so the general public
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: is more open with all this now.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: You've got to use discernment to see what's actually real
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: and what's actually just being shoved up our hind ends
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: just to see how we react. Yeah.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, to see how we'll react. I know. We draw
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: the line in the sand. The line keeps moving and
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: everybody keeps, I mean, I don't know. The disclosure keeps
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: getting more and more and It's kind of full throttle
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: right now to the point to where we don't know...
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: We're at the point where we don't trust the government.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Some of us don't. This is for entertainment purposes only.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Some of us just don't trust it. And so when
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: they're putting out information that we know to be true
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: and then expanding upon that, it's weird.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: And can we trust it?
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Well, most of the stuff, if they're putting out information...
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: that we think is brand new. It's probably 50 years
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: old by the time it gets done. So. Oh yeah.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: I just saw this comment. I feel terrible. Oh my God.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: I'm a miss and ain't into dog, man. If I was,
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: I'd be dog saga instead of SAS saga in Texas.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Thank you for the clarification and thank you for your
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: continued support SAS saga. I thought you were a lady.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: But I can never be too sure these days, especially
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: with all these names y'all got. And I do appreciate
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: you so much. I have the best audience on the Internet,
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: by the way, Trent. We really do. But but anyways,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: getting back to Dogman. OK. And so that's that's really
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: interesting that you had that experience with the Dogman at
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: the LBL potentially. And it got you to where you
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: are today. And that's kind of what happened to me
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: the first time I went on a Bigfoot expedition. It
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: was so wild and crazy. I joined the team that
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: I was with. And if I had not had those experiences,
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be here today talking with you about this.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: If it hadn't been that crazy that first time I
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: was out there.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: I had been a paranormal investigator with the Hopkins County
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Paranormal Society. Oh, wow. I started that about 2013. And
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Bill Payne was one of my mentors. He runs the project.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: And we did a lot of private residences, but over
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: the years, I got the opportunity to do a lot
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: of pretty cool places, like Waverly Hills, Octagon Hall. Perryville Battlefield,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Bobby Mackey's Music World, I think that was a Pelwitz property.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Wait, where's Bobby Mackey's? I want to go there because
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: I watched that on Ghost Adventures and I mean, it's
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: kind of evil.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: They tore it down.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: They did?
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: They just demolished it this past year.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: No way. That place was full of demons and stuff
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: and that well where they throw that lady's body in and.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: That priest got possessed during the Ghost Adventures show.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest. The night I spent there, we didn't
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: really have a whole lot of anything yet. It was
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: cool being there. And being, I mean, getting to see
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: right up close, firsthand, everything you've seen on TV. But
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: we really didn't have a whole lot going. That was
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: a little disappointing. Well, that's good.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: No hitchhikers?
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: No hitchhikers.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, gosh. I've got somewhere that I thought would be
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: really cool to go, but like, I'm always hesitant to
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: kind of want to go somewhere that's so like demonic.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: I put that like in air quotes, something that's like
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: super dark, you know, because, um, you know, I feel
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: like I'm pretty high vibe. Okay. And like, uh, I
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: like to, um, I don't, I don't go around saying
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: that like I'm bragging or anything, but I'm just, you know, I,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: I kind of, I try to stay away from like
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: super like low vibe energies and stuff like that. But like,
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: I kind of wanted to go there.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Uh, because, I try to stay like in a positive
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: mindset and stuff about everything. And I'm sure, I'm sure
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: you do too. You seem pretty positive yourself, Trent. And, uh,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: and so that way stuff doesn't stick to me. You
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? You know, like hitchhikers and stuff.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Stay prayed up. You do put an energetic shield around you.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: And, uh, and that's what I like to do. But
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: that was one place that I thought I'd always wanted
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: to kind of go. And that's, that's why they tore
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: that down.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: It's, uh, Yeah, it's unfortunate they tore it down. But
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: I got to experience it.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: That's where they had that apartment upstairs where that man
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: lived and he died, right? And he was haunting the
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: upstairs apartment of that place?
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: I got to spend quite a few hours up there. Oh, man.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Imagine being him living there.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: That would have sucked.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Waverly Hills, that was a whole different story, but we
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: got old. I didn't even do that with the ghost team.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: I actually did that with my guitar player.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, well, speaking of Bobby, see, you do have a connection. Wait,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: before we go further, I want to thank my friend Angel. Angel,
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: thank you so much. Muriel says, hey, I'm thinking about
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: traveling to Kentucky again soon. Maybe she'll stop by at
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: the November event. Hey, you should definitely come back. I
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: don't live in Kentucky. You should definitely go back to Kentucky, Angel.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: And thank you so much for your support. I appreciate
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: you so much. And happy birthday again. And happy birthday
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: to Auntie Erin. It was her birthday this week, too.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: I just want to say happy birthday to y'all. And, okay,
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: so you spent, I don't know how much time, but
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: you were in two different bands. You're a bass player, right?
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Tell me about that, because you have a connection
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: to music, and I can see that Bobby Mackey's was
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: a music hall, right?
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I played bass for Sexton. I was one of the
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: founding members, and We went from about 2004 to 2012. Wow. Cool.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: I've done interviews throughout the world through MySpace back in
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: the day.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: MySpace, where our friend Tom resides.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: That's how we got our start. We managed to get
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: AirPlay in 23 states for radio and I'm open for
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: some of my hero bands. And then after 2012, when
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: we split up, I started playing bass for Sideshow Roman
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: out of Evansville, Indiana. And again, we got quite a
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: bit of radio airplay. We had a bunch of backers.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: We had a bunch of people funding us in that band.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: So I tried to be a rock star twice. I
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: came pretty close. But I also saw the dark side
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: of it. Oh, yeah.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting. I have a lot of friends
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: and viewers of the show and stuff that are in
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: bands and stuff. And they are famous musicians. I have
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of famous musicians that actually watch the show
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: and show up in the chat and support my social
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: media and stuff. It is so cool. There's an interesting
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: connection between the cryptid world and the music world, I think.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: And I don't know, I was thinking today, cause when,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: when I saw that you were like in bands and stuff,
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: I was like, I wonder if there's something that has
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: to do with like the, this, I know this is weird,
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: but like the side of the brain that like, you know,
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: maybe it's like cryptid research and like music, it just
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: goes hand in hand or something. I don't know.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, we could, we could go into like frequency
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: and vibration and that's a whole, whole different rabbit hole.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: That's true. We talked about that last weekend. I had
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: my friend Rick Cox, who's in the chat tonight, on
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: the show. We talked about, you know, some people use
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: musical instruments to potentially open portals and call in cryptids
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: and things like that. Tones and frequencies open portals.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: You know, there's a reason we don't have the big
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: bells anymore and they took all the pipe organs out
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: of the cathedrals. So there's reasons.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: They kept the reptilians away you know mike smith was
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: on the show a while back and he's out of
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: the lbl area and uh and he his dad he
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: told us a story about his dad seeing a reptilian
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: at one of the lakes out there yeah Have you
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: ever had a reptilian encounter? Somebody asked that in the
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: chat earlier.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Not that I'm aware of. No, I have been around
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: a lot of slimy people, but.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: You said slimy people.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think that I've ever had an actual reptilian encounter.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: I can't say that I haven't either, but I've been
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: around a lot of people in the music business. I've
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: been around a lot of people in the modeling business,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: acting business, uh, So yeah, I've been around a lot
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: of slimy people, but as far as seeing it firsthand,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: like a shape shift, I think nothing. Oh gosh.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: There, I mean, I've had, I've had several very good
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: friends that have been pretty famous musicians. And I brought
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: my friend Deco on the show last year. Deco D
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: he's in a rap group out of New York. And, uh,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: with Busta Rhymes and Charlie Brown called Leaders of the
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: New School. And I just talked to him this week.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: He's been in Atlanta this week, but I'm based in Georgia.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: I already told you that I'm based in Georgia. Everybody
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: knows that. But, but he came on and he was
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: talking about, we were talking about cloned rappers and things
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: like that and vampires. And I mean that it, it
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: does kind of plague the music industry quite a bit.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: You know, Oh, the stories I can tell. I know.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: He wouldn't even talk about it on air. He just
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: kind of... I saw him kind of daze out when
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: I asked him some questions and he couldn't even talk
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: about it, really. Yeah. He zoned out. Shout out to Dinko.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: He zoned out a little bit. And that's why I
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: need you to back off.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: I can honestly say from when I started the band
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Sex Stone... We had a new lead singer come in
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: about 2008, 2009. And that's when we started to get
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: some pretty good recognition. And what the producers did was
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: they came in and they rearranged our song. I've got
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: proof of our songs, verse and chorus. They completely twist it.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: The verses became the chorus and the chorus became the verses. Oh.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: We put our whole sound around. Of course, at that time,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: we trusted them and went with it. And I ain't
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: gonna lie, it came out some pretty good music. But
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: just to see eyewitness how they can just absolutely change
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: something from front to back and reverse it.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Well, isn't that kind of, isn't that kind of the
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: way of like, everything is turned upside down and flipped
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: around and backwards and stuff like that. I don't, dare
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: I say Luciferian or something?
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: It is. It really is. And I mean, like I said,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: I witnessed it firsthand. I had a, girl I was
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: dating at the time, she was kind of in the
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: modeling industry, and I've seen a lot of dark, dark things,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: and that also, and we had a girl I was raising,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: and trying to get her some acting things, and that
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: whole myriad of music, movies, modeling, it's all connected to
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: a very dark room, I'll just say that.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, well it is. It all kind of goes hand
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: in hand with all this. I don't know. I mean,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: it's a, it's a very deep rabbit hole and the
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: rabbit holes have, have little side rabbit holes and it
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: just never ends. I call it, whenever I dive into
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: this stuff, it's like a portal, not a rabbit hole.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: It's a rabbit portal.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: It is. It is.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Well, do you think that maybe being in the music
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: industry and stuff, I know when you were younger, you
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: probably had some paranormal experiences, but do you think that,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: maybe that got you more on like a frequency and
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: experiencing all that dark stuff on a frequency of like
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: having more encounters with the paranormal.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: You know, I never thought about that, but you know, that's,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: that's quite possible. Because I, I mean, once I got
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: into music, I pretty much left everything behind and just
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: focused on it. And that's what I was driven for.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: When I get, I kind of obsess over things. If
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: I'm obsessing over paranormal, I'm obsessing over paranormal. But if
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: I'm obsessing over music, whatever I'm driven for for the time,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm doing.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: Ooh, I like that.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: But I never thought about that. You might be right.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: It may have could have opened up some things. And
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, I saw the darkness behind it. Luckily,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: I know better, so... Yeah.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Well, Hey, listen, I lived in Atlanta for about 20
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: years and I was back in my wild and free days.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: I was wild and free. I had so much fun. Gosh,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: I had so much fun back then. And, uh, I
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: wouldn't change it for anything, but I, I saw some
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: dark stuff myself and, uh, and I saw, you know,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: things can get grimy out there in the streets. You
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? And not that I was running
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: the streets or anything, I kind of, I was just
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: having fun. And, uh, it, you know, what is that?
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Varieties of spice of life. You know, it's, it's, it's
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: cool to get to experience that stuff, but like seeing
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: kind of the darker sides of life sometime, you know,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, I, I had a boyfriend, my boyfriend back
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: in 2001 committed suicide and, and stuff. And, you know,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: and I, I've, I've seen some dark stuff in my life.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: I really have. And, and that actually kind of did
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: bring me into being more focused on like wanting to
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: figure out all this paranormal stuff and, I never had
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: anybody that was that close to me. I had some
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: friends that had passed away, but nobody was that close
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: to me that died so tragically at that time. Now,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: since then, there's been plenty of people around me that
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: have passed away like that. Not like that, but close
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: to me. I don't know if it changed my frequency,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: but it might have. It might have because I feel
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: like I did... That was the turning point for me was...
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: experiencing something like that and kind of like jolting me
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: into a different frequency to where like I was actually
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: having more experiences with ghosts and seeing things like paranormal and,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: and getting interested in cryptids stuff.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: To kind of build on that. I mean, a lot
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: of theories on the cryptid community is they may vibrate
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: a different rate than we do. So there are frequencies. Yes.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: That's why they can, appear and disappear and we can't
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: fathom that. So.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. They can just, well, and plus we
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: got the light spectrum too. Okay. And so like our
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: human eyes can only see so much of what's around us.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Light and sound are frequencies, both. Yeah. Same thing. It's
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: just a different spectrum. It just depends on what's the
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: end of the spectrum you're on. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yes.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: We're all on some end of the spectrum.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Everybody. Okay.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: We're talking about light spectrum though.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: And what's up, Joe Parker? Man, we got a full
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: house tonight. We got all the, all the cool kids
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: are in here tonight. Okay. And okay. Well, I was
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: thinking I really want to hear about your zombie experience.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: What in the heck?
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: Have you really seen a zombie? Like an undead person?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: Let me just say this. This was, This was back
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: in the early 2000s. I was a younger man at
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: that time. And me and my guitar player were driving
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: down some back roads. This was the middle of the night.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: And I'll be honest. Yeah, we were probably smoking some
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: weed at the time. But that's not going to make
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: you hallucinate and see things. It's just a fact.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: Not normally.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, we're not like overdoing it. We're just
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: back road. And this is the Saturday going into Easter.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: So it's about two or three o'clock in the morning.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: So it's already Easter. And we're on this back road
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: in Dawson Springs, Kentucky called Log Cabin Road. And the
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: only thing at the end of the road is There's
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: a log cabin there that's dilapidated, been dilapidated for years.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: I don't, nobody really knows the history behind it other
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: than it's there. And just as we're about to approach
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: where the log cabin is, we're sitting there talking, we're
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: talking music, we're talking history, probably. We've talked a lot
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: about ancient history at that time. We see this figure
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: walking across the road. And it has a very strange gait.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: We had a crippled guy in town that we went
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: to school with. And we called him Rodeo because he
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: walked so weird. He looked like he was riding a
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: bull hole when he walked across the road. And he
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: was like, is that? I was like, no, it can't be. Well,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: as we got closer, we could tell this person was
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: wearing a suit. And it was like ripped and tattered.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: And I actually thought This is an old man. He's
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: had some car trouble or something, and he's looking for
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: somebody to help him. But I actually had to pull
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: off the side of the road because he wouldn't move
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: out of the way. And as we pulled off to
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: the side of the road, and I had rolled my
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: window down to speak to him, we could see the eyes,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: and they were solid white. Nothing else. Solid white. And
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: I hit the gas and we took off.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain it. Whoa. I always
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: called it a zombie. And for several years after that,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: I would go down that road on Easter Eve, sometimes
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: two or three times a night, just to see if
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: I could see it again. And never did.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, whoa. Well, in that case, it would have been
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: like a residual haunting or something. So like in your mind,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: were you trying to decide like maybe that was a ghost?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Maybe, but I mean, both of us saw it. Wasn't
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: no doubt about it. It was there. It wasn't like translucent.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: It was there.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: Well, that sounds wild. And so he was, he just like,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: he was kind of lost, but he acknowledged you, right?
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, As far as acknowledging, it didn't move out
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: of my way. I had to get off the road
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: to go around it. So it didn't acknowledge me enough
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: to step aside.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Was it kind of like one of
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: those zombies from the Thriller video?
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Breakdancers? It wasn't breakdancing at all.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: No, I'm kidding. Man.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: It had a handicap walk, and I don't know how
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: else to explain that. It's like one leg shorter than
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: the other. That kind of a gait. But as we
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: pulled up to it, I mean, we were going to
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: help this guy. But we saw the eyes and they
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: were solid white. Freaked us out. We just took off. Man.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: That's enough to freak anybody out right there.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, now could it have been just like a
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: man who was blind or had something wrong with his eyes?
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: had dementia walking around. I don't know.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, we always, you know, as a researcher, we're like, well,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: let's eliminate what it could be. I mean, this was,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: was it late at night? You said?
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: It was two o'clock in the morning.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. That wasn't a man.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: This was Easter and dressed in a suit that was tattered,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: ripped and no tie. I mean, strange, just strange.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. That is really strange. And, uh, yeah,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: I would have been checking my rear view mirror to
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: make sure he had not jumped on my car.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: Really? We hit the gas, we were gone and never
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: looked back. Oh man. But I looked back a few,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, I tried to recreate it and just never
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: appeared again, but it's never left me. It was an
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: experience that.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. That is absolutely wild. Thank you for sharing
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: that with us tonight. That's the first time I've heard
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: of a story like that. I mean, it kind of
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: sounds like it could have been like a ghost. I mean,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: I've seen ghosts or what I perceived to be a
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: ghost that was as solid as you and I. And
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: so there's that, but that sounds more like an undead
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: zombie kind of thing.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was... That's all I know to describe it.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: That's how I described it at that time.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: Was there a cemetery close by that you know of?
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I think I sent you pictures. We have
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: a cemetery called the Unknown Cemetery. That's just a few
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: miles down the road from here. And we have Lit
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: Creek Cemetery, which we're famous for. They used to hang
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: witches there.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to ask you about that.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: The unknown cemetery, every, I mean, there's like two or
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: three stones out there that have a name on it.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: The rest of them all say unknown adult, unknown child,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: unknown adult, unknown child. And you cannot find any history
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: on it almost whatsoever. I'm almost think maybe it was
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: during the 1917, 18 flu epidemic, but I don't know. Hmm.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: It is. That is really weird. In our story, when
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: I was a teenager, we used to take, of course,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: we used to take our dates out there and try
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: to find ghosts and scare them. You know what we
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: do with dates out there.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: Go parking. I don't know what happened when you go parking.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: I never did. I don't know what you're talking about.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: At that time, they had a circle that went all
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: the way around to some chain. And that was the drive.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: And as I was coming around it, I seen, it
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: looked like a white cotton ball bouncing down the road.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: I was like, what in the world is that? And
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: as I got up on it, it was a solid
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: white skunk. Oh. Now that's, I'm not saying that's paranormal
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: or anything like that, but that was just a very
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: strange thing to see. It is.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: That's almost like an albino skunk.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: That's rare. I mean, it was solid, solid white.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's very rare to come across that.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: That's wild.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. Well, okay. Well, I mean, I talk
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: a lot about this, all this hidden history and these
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: man-made lakes where, you know, entire communities were flooded out.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: I think it was, you know, there's probably a lot
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: of different reasons for them to do all that. And
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: I know they say it's for the water supply and
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: for the power companies. I think it's to cover up
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: our history. of what's out there. There's no telling.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: Lakes and golf courses. What do they have?
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: Exactly. That's what I want to know. Inquiring minds want
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: to know. Well, you can actually find the history behind
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: what all they covered up is some of these lakes.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, I found the history of, yeah, Kentucky's full
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: of them.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: Kentucky, Tennessee. There's an Egyptian temple. They say it was.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: Norris Lake.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: Yes. Mm-hmm.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I talk about that one all the time because
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: I used to go there when I was a kid.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: One of my mom's best friends had a houseboat out there.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: We used to go hanging out on her houseboat when
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: I was a kid. There was always something real creepy
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: about that lake, though. Real creepy. I grew up on
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: Lake Lanier in Georgia. That's the most haunted lake in America.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: We lived in Farragut for a while. We were just
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: outside of Knoxville. We visited all those areas.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. What is up with Witchcraft Road? Is that
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: the road that that cemetery is on or is this different?
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: It is the road. I mean, all right, you got
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: the unknown cemetery, which is, this is Richland, Kentucky. I
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: pass it every day on my way back and forth
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: from work. So you turn at the cemetery, not even block,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: block and a half tops down the road. is a
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: road called the Witchcraft Road. Now, as the crow flies,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: there's a cemetery called Lit Creek Cemetery, which I pass
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: it a few miles before I get to where the
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: Unknown Cemetery is. But Lit Creek's a famous cemetery, listed
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: in all the paranormal sites and things. My brother and
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: brother-in-law used to tell me stories about the church that
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: used to sit there. You could hear the music playing.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: The church had been in disrepair for years. But you
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: could drive by and still hear the music playing.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: No way.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: By the time I was a teenager, the church was gone.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: But the whole story is they hung witches on that.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: On those grounds where the cemetery's at.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: No way. Do you think they were real witches or
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: just accused of being witches?
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But the road next to it is
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: Sixth Vane. Sixth Vane. V-E-I-N. So you got Sixth Vane,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: Lick Creek Cemetery Road, and then Just a shot over
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: a catty corner, probably less than two miles. Unknown Cemetery
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: and Witchcraft Road. It's just a strange little area right there.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: A little trifecta of high strangeness. Yeah. And paranormal history. Yeah,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: that is weird. Witchcraft Road.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: The lack thereof. You can't hardly find anything on the
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Unknown Cemetery. Wow. Huh.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: Well, is it full? Okay, so places like this, especially
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: a road that's called Witchcraft Road, where there are alleged
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: witches hung there or hanged there back in the day,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: there's going to be a lot of occult activity, I bet.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: Is there like backwoods cults out there? We have like
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: Devil Worshippers Mountain up in Tryon.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've got rumors throughout the years. Of course,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: you had Satanic Panic back in the 80s. But As
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: far as modern day, no, I don't know of anything
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: right off hand.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, the LBL's got a lot of occult activity,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: Of course, you had the Vampire Hotel and all that
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: mess went on in the early 2000s, things like that.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: And to this day, you can still find places that
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: look like there have been rituals performed. Mm-hmm. We've noticed
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: that on a few of our little jaunts out there
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: just to see areas where people have seen Bigfoot and Dogman.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen them myself, but my friends that I
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: go out there with at LBL were telling me about
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: how there's little voodoo dolls and stuff in the trees
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: around the cemeteries. Yeah, that sucks. I wonder, you know,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: it makes me wonder if people are going out there
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: and doing rituals to conjure up some of these werewolves, dogmen.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: That's possible. That is possible.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, people get extreme, okay? People go to the extremes, especially,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to say it's people that don't know
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: what they're doing, because I don't know. I don't know
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: what people's histories are, you know, but Mark, my friend
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: Mark always had a, he lived just right down the
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: road from there. lbl and he always had an issue
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: with like um people going out and doing rituals or
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: even blowing those horns and stuff those shofars and things
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: because he was like look he was like you do
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: that you're opening portals and if you don't know how
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: to properly close them down that leaves portals open for
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: anything to come in and out of and uh and
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: and that's very dangerous.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah it is and But you're talking about shofars. I mean,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: that goes back to biblical time. So, I mean, how
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: much are we being told that's actually true versus what
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: we should actually know? And that's something we can't know.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: That's the problem. It's all hidden. I mean, you look
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: at the Vatican. They probably sit on most of the
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: knowledge of our entire history that we're never allowed to see.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: But if you look at the Vatican, what does the
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: chamber look like? It looks like a snake. Oh, yeah.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: It's a bunch of reptiles.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: And the throne, what's it look like? It looks like
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: a bunch of demons. Devils. Exactly. What's the name?
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: What's the name?
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, what's the name? They have a telescope. What's
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: the name of the telescope?
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: Lucifer.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: Lucifer. Exactly.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Vatican is named after some kind of
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: like reptile goddess, isn't it?
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, you just got to open your eyes and
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: see this and see. And that's the thing, too, is
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: like all this stuff is hidden from us, you know,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: us peasants. And, uh, and so that's why I am
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: super appreciative of the person who taught me like remote
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: viewing and stuff. And I'm able to do, you know,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: cause we have to go into unconventional use unconventional methods
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: to get to the bottom of some things sometimes. And
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't force anyone to believe anything that
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: I say or do. I'm just putting it out there
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: to share it with the world for the people who
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: do want to hear about it.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: And, uh, and so stuff like remote viewing and people
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: tapping into their psychic abilities and, and tapping in, you know, uh,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: just tapping into your inherent, I don't want to say
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: like your DNA and stuff, like your stuff that's like
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: imprinted within our blood and our DNA and stuff and
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: oral tradition, you know, stories being passed down. We got
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: to really tune into that kind of stuff. If we
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: want to get the truth about anything, because nobody's going
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: to tell us the government's never going to tell us
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: the truth. They're not going to give us a full truth.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: You know why? Because they can't control. They're not going
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: to tell us what they can't control. And they want
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: us to under control. This is for entertainment purposes only.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: Again.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: But that's the truth, Trent. That's the truth. Yeah. I
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: wanted to ask you, too, about your missing time incident.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: What happened with your missing time? Because I, too, have
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: experienced time.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: That was crazy.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's considered missing time. But
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: one morning, I was working the first shift.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: And I would go in at six.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: O'clock in the morning. And I had my alarm set
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: to get up.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: I actually would set two alarms. I'd set one to
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: get up, and when the second one went off, it
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: was time to go. This particular morning, both alarms went off.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: I got up, put my pants on, My shoes on,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: I hit the door, started the car, started down the road.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: Turned on a podcast I was listening to on the
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: way to work.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: About halfway to work, my alarm goes off again.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what in the world is going on? I
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: just wasn't thinking. I just hit stop.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: Right about the time I pulled in the parking lot,
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: the alarm goes off again, and I hit stop. Pull
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: in the parking lot, and I was wondering, because generally
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: it starts getting daylight right before I get to work.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: But this particular morning, sun never came up.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what is going on?
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: When I pulled in the parking lot, hit my phone,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: see what time it was. I was an hour early.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, thanks. Hey, this is better than being late, though.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: That's weird.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: It totally tricked me now because my alarms were not set.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't have double alarms.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: I didn't have any.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: They legitimately went off twice. Set for the same time.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: And I can only explain that it saved my life.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: I got to work.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: It was an hour early.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: I called my.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: Girl I was living with.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: I don't even know.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: What's going on. No.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: Because she heard the alarms, too.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: I was like, man. Wow.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: You know, the way that I look at stuff like
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: that when that happens, it can be anything, right? It
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: can be anything. I mean, especially if you've ever had
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: any kind of ET experiences or abduction experiences. There's always that.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: But also my great grandmother would tell me, you know,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: she also had a she had I think that they
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: got abducted in their car one day. Her and my
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: great aunt driving through Rome, Georgia, all those dogman encounters
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: are happening right now in that area. A light came
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: down over their car and it enveloped their car while
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: they were driving down the highway. And the next thing
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: they know, they're a county over. All this time has
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: passed and they had no idea how they got there.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: And they always attributed that to angels taking them out
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: of harm's way. So it was angels, you know, very,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: very religious women.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: And so it could be that maybe, maybe there was
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: going to be some kind of bad wreck or something
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: if you had left at your normal time. So they
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: were getting your butt out of bed to get you
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: out of harm's way. Could be that. I mean, that's
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: just what that's just what my great grandmother would have said.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: But look at today when you talk about angels, are
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: you talking about angels?
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: Are you talking about aliens? Yes. I mean, what are
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: we talking about?
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing with my great grandmother. They would
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: have never in a millionaire said anything about aliens. They
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: would have been very upset had I said you were
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: abducted by aliens.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: Man, she would have been very upset with me.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: But that's where we're at right now.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: That's right. It's all about perception, Trent. That's what it is.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: It's all about your beliefs. your beliefs, the perception and
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: how you were raised and where you're at on a
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: spiritual level and on a, you know, frequency level. You
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Just everybody, we're all different.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of people think the angels are demons.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, aliens are demons stuff too. So, and I
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: don't know. So we were in an existential crisis. Some people, me,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: I just, I just go with the flow. I don't
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: know nothing about nothing. I just, I don't know. It's
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: just fun. I don't know what's what anymore.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's where we're at. It's talking about dog
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: men and Bigfoot. Are we talking about Nephilim? Are we
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: talking about aliens? Are we talking about angels and demons?
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: What are we talking about? Exactly. But the narrative that
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: mainstream wants to push towards us, it's going to be
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: biblical and demons. Yeah. That's where they're pushing it towards.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: Well, what do you think about dog men? And, you know,
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: I've actually had some experiences where I've encountered like some
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: paranormal stuff that seemed to be Bigfoot. I mean, we've
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: got this X factor. We call it the X factor
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: on my team that I'm on with Bigfoot because there's
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: obviously some reason that they're disappearing. And, you know, maybe
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: it's portals. I don't know. I mean, there's a whole
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: lot of stuff that just doesn't make sense. It's not
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: just it's not just plain old flesh and bone. creatures,
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: but humans are not just flesh and bone either. We've
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: got paranormal abilities. I know I do.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: I think we've got way more abilities than we... I
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: think they've been suppressed. Yeah, they have. Largely. But like
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: I said earlier, I mean, who's to say they don't
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: vibrate on a different wavelength? That's just something that we
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: don't even know how to perceive. Mm-hmm. So if they're
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: vibrating on a different frequency and the frequencies that we're
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: on are being suppressed, that's just going to make it worse.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: So if we see them coming in and out of portals,
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: if we see them disappearing and reappearing in other places,
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know that we can even call it paranormal
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: other than science.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: It's science. Oh, I just went over this past week
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: on Monday. I think it was Monday. I presented the
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: audience with the newly declassified documents from our government, the
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: Pentagon Department of, was it the DIA, I guess, had
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: released the sixth batch of UFO files declassified. And one
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: of them was on traversable wormholes, stargates, and negative energy.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: And we got into that. And that's stuff that me
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: and Barry have been talking about forever. My teams would
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: we're all very much, we've documented portals and all that, um,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: documented people going into portals and out of portals. Um, and,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: and that takes us into like the conversation of like, well, now,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: now these are, it's real. They show diagrams of humans
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: looking into stargates into dinosaur land and, uh, and pictures
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: of arms coming out of portals and stuff.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: Are you familiar with Aston Forbes by chance?
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: That sounds familiar, but no, I don't know.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: He's doing a lot of research on zero point energy
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: and things like that. But what he's brought to light is,
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: you remember the plane MH370 that disappeared? Oh, yeah.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: With the three orbs that kept circling around it like
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: a portal. They're making a portal or vortex.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's claiming that's a real video. He claimed
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: that's a real video. And the Obama administration basically beamed
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: me up, Scotty, the plane. took it to a completely
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: different place. Of course, it was filled with... Scientists. Scientists, defectors,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: trying to defect from... Was it China? I think, maybe.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: It was a Malaysia flight.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: It was a Malaysia flight, yeah.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: There's no telling. Well, we've had that whole string of
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: all those scientists that went missing, too, recently. They were
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: working on these UFO things. And there's speculation that they're
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: all underground in some facility or working somewhere else. Well,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, maybe that's why they're putting
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: all of this information out there to the public now.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: And we're putting it out there and dissecting it more
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: and putting it out in the public and our audiences
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: to how we understand it and stuff. And by the way, y'all,
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: Barry Littleton's doing a show on that tomorrow. I may
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: or may not be able to be there. I got
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: stuff I got to do tomorrow. But y'all, please tune
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: into his channel tomorrow at 4 p.m. Eastern, 3 Central.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: He's going to break down that whole document and the
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: Stargate stuff and the portals and the wormholes. He's really
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: good at that. But, okay, point of my story is
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: they've admitted this. Now, let's put this into the dogman sector. Okay,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: we've got wormholes. We've got portals. They've admitted to all this.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: I've had reports of people walking through national parks and
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: having hands come out of nowhere and grabbing them saying, gotcha.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: And trying to kidnap people and stuff and take them.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: And this one guy was able to get away, according
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: to a report that Mark took. missing people in national parks.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: I know you're familiar with that, right?
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: Let's go. Yeah.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: He loves me by the way.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: Just kidding. He doesn't.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: But anyways, uh, okay. I think this opens up a
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: whole can of worms now because if humans, people in
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: agencies and governments have that capability, you know, dog men
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: and Bigfoot are always blamed. They've been blamed for a
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: long time on some of these missing people.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know. What do you think about that? Do
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: you think Dogman and Bigfoot are taking all these missing people?
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you've got the native stories
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: that will tell you Dogman's not dangerous. They're kind of
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: a watcher, protector, walker. They guard the land. Why not? Bigfoot,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: you don't hear a whole lot of attacks from Bigfoot.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, you have occasional ones where you've got things
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: thrown at people and beating the doors down, things like that.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: But for the most part, most people just see them
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: from a distance and they walk off and turn around
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: just like dogmen. Yeah. The portals. One consistent thing I
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: keep hearing is when somebody witnesses a portal or something
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: coming from a portal, they hear a sound like a
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: metallic clanging, like a goat clanging shut, like metallic. And
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: then once they hear that, this portal opens up, something
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: steps out, and boom, it's gone.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: I've heard about that in the LBL, actually. Yeah. Sounding
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: like a metal dumpster is being dropped from the sky.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And I've heard that time and time again.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: Have you ever thought that maybe, and this is me
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: asking someone from the LBL area, do you think maybe
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: there's some kind of underground operation going on there and
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: they're training or holding dogmen or werewolves or something out there?
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe they're letting them loose occasionally?
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: I can't say they're not. And I've had this discussion
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: with other people. I mean, that's a possibility. I mean,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: it's right next to Fort Campbell. It's not far down
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: the road. It's on Tennessee border, just right down the road.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: And you have the whole super soldier hybrid training program.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: You hear about some gene decode stuff, things like that.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard it. I don't know. I really don't.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's a fact. The military trains
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: in LBL. They've got their certain areas. They are training
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: spots for military for different things. It's not uncommon to
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: see helicopters in the air. I mean, it's 101st Airborne,
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: so you've got training missions and things going on all
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: the time. When I was living down there, I mean,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: I had helicopters coming over all the time.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: Well, we actually, the last time I was there, we
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: were on our way to that witch cemetery, I guess,
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: or leaving it or something. But we started seeing a
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: whole lot of like, I'm going to say containers of
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: like liquid, like water and stuff, like military grade with
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: like Gatorade stations and stuff, like kind of sprinkled throughout
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: the LBL. Yeah, we didn't touch them, of course. We're
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: never going to touch that stuff. But we did get
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: out and kind of just give it a go. good
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: look over uh to see what they were because they
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: were kind of hidden you know on some of the
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: behind certain trees on different corners or different rows and
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: stuff and we were like yeah military operations.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: It might have been your show i heard that on
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: but i heard that not too long ago and it's
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: something i've never witnessed so because they're hidden.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: They don't want anybody to see them, but see, we've
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: got the, we've got the eye to see that kind
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: of stuff. Cause we're always, we always notice anomalies, you know,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: anything that's like sticking up in the woods. Like we're some,
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: one of us is going to notice it.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: Exactly. No, that's the whole, I mean, that's what we've
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: been bred to do for the last 10 years or more. So. Yeah.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: Well, it just backed up the, the idea that we
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: had that there's like military training going on out there
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: and stuff of some sort. So, Because, and I'm going
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: to circle back around to, that was the last time
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: I was there. The time before that was when Matt,
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: we all got ambushed out there at our campsite. And
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: while it was happening, I looked at Matt and I
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: was like, could this be humans cloaked? Because they weren't
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: showing up in my night vision out there. This is
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: at the LBL, right by the lake. I don't know
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: exactly where we were, but we were at that campsite.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: And I looked at Matt and I was like, you know,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: Matt used to work in law enforcement and stuff. And
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: I was like, have you, could this be like humans
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: in cloaking suits? Some kind of cloak suit because they
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: were running on two feet. They sounded heavy, but like not,
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't, it didn't sound like giant, like giants,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: like Bigfoot would sound. Bigfoots are silent when they run
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: most of the time too.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: So, but this was making a lot of noise and
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: I was like, man, this would be a great place
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: to be almost like a testing zone for people like
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: us who are out here looking for Bigfoot. We had
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: multiple people that showed up at our campsite throughout that weekend,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: poking around, asking us who we were and why we
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: were there and acting like they were hunters. And they
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: were kind of, we figured they were lying.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: They were, they were like sent there to find out
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: what we were doing out there.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, their, their outfits, the guys were like, those
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: outfits are way too new. They just, they just pop
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: the tags off that stuff. They're not out here hunting,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: you know? And, but anyways, that's besides the point. I'm
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: sure we all, we look suspicious everywhere we go. Oh, man.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: But it still is my opinion today that that could
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: have very well been humans out there doing some kind
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: of paramilitary exercise to try to scare us off or
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: pretend to be Bigfoots or Dogmen to see what our
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: reaction would be.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: That's a possibility. I mean, you can't... You can't... The
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: freaking situations... They put out there on us are ridiculous.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: So you can't put anything aside as far as that goes.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: Because we don't know. We really don't.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: Well, I can remote view it, though. See, that's my
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: secret weapon. I can get my team to remote view
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: stuff and we'll figure things out.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: That's what makes me dangerous.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: Yes. Oh, man.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: Anyways, I'm just kidding. Y'all kind of. But, but yeah, it's,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: it's like, we really don't know. And everything is so
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: blurred together at this point. It's like people, I think
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: that they know that people go out there to go
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: look for Bigfoot and Dogman. And so why, why wouldn't
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: these like groups be out there, especially, you know, when
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: we're out there and, you know, if this is a
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: training ground, a training area for some kind of agency
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: or whatever's going on out there, why wouldn't they go
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: out there and try to terrorize us?
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: It's become such a hotspot that, I mean, there's, Probably
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: any given weekend, there's probably multiple teams from one side
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: of LBL to the other that's got people stationed doing investigations.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: And that's just the way it is right now.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: You know, in my mind, I was wondering, I was like,
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: do they think they're like sitting back going, oh, that
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: girl's on to us. That lady's on to us. She
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: knows that it's just humans in cloaked suits. That's what
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: I was kind of thinking. Also, I was thinking it
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: could have been Native American spirits. The way they came
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: down that burial mound like that.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: They're not like, no, they're onto us. They're like, what
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: do we got to do next? Bring something else.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: We got to up the ante now. They ain't going nowhere.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: They're not flinching at all. They're out there trying to
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: run it. We're chasing them.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: Oh man.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: You know, actually next time, if that ever happens again,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: I probably will just run at him. Why not? Why not?
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: Nothing.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: I'm still here, Trent, you know, and I, I run
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: out and I do dumb stuff and chase these things
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: and let them chase me. And yeah, it's scary when
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: it happens, but the next day I'm laughing about it
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: and it's the best night of my life.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: It's a drill. You know, it's, it's, It's something, it's
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: a passion. I mean, it's been ingrained in me since
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: I was little. I watched all from Leonard Nimoy and
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: his things about the paranormal and UFOs back in the
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: day to ancient aliens. It's all come full circle and
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: now it's mainstream news. Yeah. So how did we get here?
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: I never saw this happening, ever. It all being so mainstream. And,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, do you think the day will ever come
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: where they actually, like, and I'm talking about, like, our government. Like,
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: they're doing this UFO disclosure. Do you think they're going
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: to ever disclose true disclosure with Bigfoot and Dogman?
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know. No? I think it'll be a facade
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: up to the very end. It'll take one of us
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: to find the actual truth. Government's not going to do it. Yeah.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: And we're coming out with all these people that are like,
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say, I always talk about plants. Like
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: people are probably like, she's talking about me or no,
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about anybody that I know. I do
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: know some people that I do think are plants are
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: really great. But, but anyways, that's besides the point. But,
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: you know, people to, to be naysayers or, and it's
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: not even naysayers. It's like people putting out wrong information
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: and stuff and trying to make us look over here
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: and we should be looking over here and stuff. And
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: it's like, I'm kind of, I get on to that.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: I think that's why some people just don't like me.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: Because I just see right through it. That's what I'm talking.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: About with the mainstream. I mean, you've got New York
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: Post and Daily Mail, which I trust neither one of them.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: Absolutely don't. But the fact is, we've got cryptids. We've
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: got ghosts. We've got biblical. We've got the Book of Enoch.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: We've got UFOs. Al-Fawazi, for the last, since March, anyways,
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: Probably before, but I started noticing it when they started
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: talking about the flap. And it was just hit after
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: hit after hit. And they still cover all the main
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: issues and whatnot. But that's not what shows up in
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: our feeds because our algorithms are set a little different.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: So it just beats us over the head with it.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: We get all the paranormal stuff. Just boom, kaboom, kaboom.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: And in no time in any of our history has
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: any of this been talked about outside of back in
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: the 1800s when you had the giants and the mounds
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: and all that in the press.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been lied to about everything.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: Everything.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: Everything. We've been lied to about everything.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: Graham Hancock said it best. He said, we are a
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: civilization with amnesia.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: I talked about that all Monday, actually. Whenever I talked
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: about that meltology, I got into meltology. That's a new one.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: Where a lot of our, there's like buildings all over
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: the world, like cathedrals and castles and everything that have
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: been melted. And like, what happened? You know, what kind
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: of nuclear blast did we have or like something? What happened?
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: And that definitely wasn't just a flood. Yeah.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: No, well, they say that caused one of the floods,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: like the big mud flood or whatever. And some people think.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: Randall Carlson's got some pretty good theories on it. It
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: kind of makes sense when you talk about impact and
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: then striking the ice sheets and sending all the ice
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: into the air. That's an interesting theory. And I've just
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: heard him in the last couple months be talking about that. Yeah.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: Not to say that that's 100% proof. I'm just saying
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: that that's an interesting theory and it makes sense. Yeah.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: Well, there's something weird going on. And so the geologist
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: that I referred to, I actually pulled up a YouTube
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: video of a recovering geologist and her husband, she said.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: And she said that everything they were taught, she has
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: a master's in geology. She said everything they were taught
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: is just not right.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: I'm sure.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can. I cut my teeth on the
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: early or the late 90s with like Graham Hancock, Robert Duvall,
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: John Anthony West, David Hatcher. Childress. A lot of these
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: guys do ancient aliens today. But they're alternative histories. And
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: they use real science. I mean, Robert Shock, as far
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: as geology and weathering and water weathering goes with the sinks.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: You've got Yonaguni underwater over in Japan. Just different things
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: like that. It's irrefutable. You cannot make sense of any
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: of that with the science we're taught. Yes.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: With what's in our textbooks.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: No. There's no sense whatsoever about it. Now, I'm not
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: saying that they're all 100% right either. But the fact is,
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: at least they figured out this ain't right.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: It ain't right. Something ain't right.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: It ain't right.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: Something ain't right. I need to put that on a t-shirt.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: Let me add that to my list. Hold on. Something
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: ain't right. I got a whole list of things I
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: need to put on t-shirts, y'all, and hats. And so, yeah,
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: we're going to have to remember that one. Something ain't right. Well,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: speaking about something not being right, I know you're in
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: the North American Dog Man Project. You guys do a
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: lot of you do a lot of research and investigations
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: on dog men. I'm sure that history you guys have
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: historians and all that stuff over there. I know you've
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: heard about this dog man breeding program allegedly that happened.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: And there was a fellow named Victor that went on
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: that Jeff Nadolny guy show and was talking about it.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: And allegedly, I think that he died like people came
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: after him or something. But he had said, I watched
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: a couple of those episodes and he was saying that he,
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: I guess his dad was part of those programs, like
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: working with the werewolves and the dog men for our
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: government or something, a paramilitary or agency or something. I'm
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: going to.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: Go back into the super soldier possibility. I mean, have
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: you seen, there's a movie they put up with dog
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: soldiers or something like that. Yes. I mean, how much,
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: Are they trying to tell us?
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: Soft disclosure.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: Soft disclosure. Yeah, I've heard the stories. Like I said,
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: I can't say for a fact that any of it
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: is a fact. But just to kind of bang off that,
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: right before I got on your show today, we're going
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: to resurrect mammoths using AI and clones. Oh, yay. And
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: what did we just make? Somebody just got famous by
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: making dire wolves over again.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, Elon Musk's business partner with Neuralink said
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: that they could resurrect dinosaurs with brain chips. We all
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: need a mind-controlled dinosaur. Why not throw some T-Rexes in
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: the backyard with them? Mind-controlled chips.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: If they're telling us about it now, it's already 50
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: years old.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Well, what about like these dogs? If there, if
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: there are these, and I do believe, I do believe
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: this is probably true. There are, I think there have
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: been programs. I think there are programs I've had. I
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: have whistleblowers, friends of mine, friends of mine, people that
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: I know who have told me stuff that won't even
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: speak publicly about it, but they've told me they're part
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: of some of these programs.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: I've seen some of the people say that, you know, they,
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: they actually take a dog man down and then. Yep.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: weeks later, these men in black show up. Oh, you
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: got our asset or your asset. What's an asset. Yeah.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: They spend a lot of money on those things and
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: all the chips in their brains.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: It's a, it's, it's a weird world we live in
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: right now. And, uh, and you know, I've, I've had
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: my own dog man encounter, I believe leaving Alabama one night,
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: late one night. And, um, You know, I've taken a
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: bunch of reports. I've done several investigations of specifically dog
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: man activity and stuff like that. And it's, they're real.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: It's a real thing. There's no doubt about that. But
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: the question is, why are they so plentiful? I guess,
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: why are there so many of them right now?
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if it's just so many
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: of them or if it's just our frequency has changed
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: Our frequency. That's a good point. I've said that before, too.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 2: I think you might be right. We're on a different frequency.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: We can see them now.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: Or they've changed our frequency to where we have our choice.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: With all the towers everywhere and the G's. All the G's.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know. They could all be just holograms. We
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: do live in a holographic universe, I think.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Key West cat lady. Thank you for
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: reminding me about that too. I appreciate you being in
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: the chat tonight. It says, supposedly she says, supposedly the
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: government has cryptid breeding programs. They eventually want to get
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: the people off the land and we'll use the dogmen
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: and cryptids make that happen. Now I've actually, I've heard that.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: I have heard that. It could be, see, I look
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: at it like this. It could be part of a
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: bigger picture talking about blue beam and stuff, you know,
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: it seems like we are living in revelations right now
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: in the end times, Trent. And, uh, and I don't
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: think it's the end times. Like they're trying, it's kind
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: of like the biblical end times, but I think that
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: we're just kind of going into a new era. That's
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: what I think personally.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of an optimist. I kind of believe that
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: we've got people in power right now that are actually
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: trying to do the right thing. And I missed all
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: the disinfo and all the crazy I really think, and
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, we're all screwed.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: We're all screwed anyways.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: I really think we've got people in the right places
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: trying to make things go in the right direction.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: I hope so. Yeah, I hope so. But I feel
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: like Dogmen and Bigfoot and all the cryptids are kind
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: of like, you know, we're talking about this fake alien invasion.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: The people have been anticipating for a while and, and maybe,
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 2: maybe that's, I mean, it could be that they're kind
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: of getting lined up to like be a part of
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: all of that or something, or maybe that was a
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: plan along a while back and now it's not the
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 2: plan anymore, but I thought maybe, maybe that's what's going
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: on or something, but I don't know.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: I think my honest opinion, I think we've backed them
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: into a corner. Yeah. And They still have the narratives
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: out there. But if they really had the power, I
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: think they would have already pulled the trigger. Yeah.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: Well, especially people talking about it like we're doing, talking
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: publicly about it.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: There's so many people that are on our level, and
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: I don't mean even to our level. There's so many
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: people that question what's going on. even if they don't
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: realize what we realize you can't you can't you can't
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: just pull the curtain too many people know what's going
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: on too many people see through the facade so it's
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: they're having to get way more technical way more advanced
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: and I think we might be out.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 2: Running a little bit I think we are It takes
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 2: voices like yours, Trent, to get out and talk about
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: it and to make these things public and your encounters public.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: It's not just Dogman. It's all this stuff. It's all
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 2: of it. I think that's what's going on here. I
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 2: always keep a very positive outlook on all this stuff.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: This world kind of sucks, but I'm just going to
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: have fun no matter what. Just have fun no matter what.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: If you don't, what do.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: We have to do?
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: What do you have planned for your future? What is
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: the future of you and your dog man investigations, all
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff? Your boot's on the ground, right?
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 2: So you're going to be out doing more investigating, maybe
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: the LBL. What you got going on?
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: What I want to do, and I'm going to reach
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: out to your audience. What I want to do is
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: put a team together. Live, boots on the ground. I
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: want people from all facets of the paranormal world. I
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: want cryptid investigators. I want paranormal investigators. I want UFO investigators.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: I would like some biblical people, some historians, scientists. Let's
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: put a team together that runs the gamut from physics
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: the biology, the geology, to crazy.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: Crazy. I like that.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: It all interlocks, and we have to figure out why, how, when,
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: and where. you can't do it alone. We can't do
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: it as a lone wolf. You've got to have people
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: from different factions and let's bounce these ideas off of
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: each other. Theories, eventually theories become facts. I mean, how
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: many conspiracy theorists do you know that are absolutely truth
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: tellers today?
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: We were always right. We were always right.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: Amen.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: And, uh, I've lost a lot. I've lost, I'm not
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 2: gonna say I've lost a lot of friends, but like,
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: I don't, I'm not friends with the same people I
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: used to be friends with from back, back before all
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: the craziness started. What was that? Six years ago.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: I will say I've had a, I've had a pretty
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: good round of friends around me that have, for lack
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: of better words, the song, everybody come along.
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 2: Well, that's great. Well, you know, you guys are all
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: in the same frequency and, uh, And that's, that's something
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 2: that I tell people too, is like, you know, a
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 2: lot of us have seen a lot of people in
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 2: our lives, a lot of things like kind of drift
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 2: away from us and, and things just kind of naturally,
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 2: or it feels like it's unnaturally, you know, ended like
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 2: relationships with people in this stuff. But like, like you said,
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: the frequencies are changing and, and our frequencies are changing
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: depending upon like where you're at in life and how
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 2: you're feeling and how you're taking care of yourself and stuff. And,
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 2: and so it's just natural for things, experiences and things to, to,
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of drift away from you whenever, you know,
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 2: and for you to magnetize towards people that are more
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 2: on your frequency and whatever you lose, I promise you,
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 2: you'll gain some more in the future, something that's better
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: suited for you. And that's in every aspect of your life. And,
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 2: and so that's why I'm so happy. Like, I feel like,
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 2: I know Barton said that one day, he was like,
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 2: you know, I feel like all the wrong people have
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 2: finally left my life and now the right people are
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: coming in or, you know, and, and people that are,
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: that are more on the frequency of even, even talking
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 2: about this stuff. I mean, I had friends, I couldn't
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 2: talk about this stuff, but they made fun of me.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 2: And now I don't hang out with anybody that laughs
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: about Bigfoot. Kiss my grits.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: I would never let it bother me. If they thought
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: I was crazy, I was crazy. I don't really care
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: what you think about me. So it's.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 2: I'm that way too. I got a tough skin going public.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 2: You kind of have to.
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 2: Well, I think you're great, Trent. I really, man, I've
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 2: really enjoyed the show tonight.
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: I've had a blast.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 2: So thank you. I told you we'd have fun. Didn't I?
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm so glad. And, uh, what, what, what's going
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 2: on at the NADP right now? Uh, y'all still, everybody's
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 2: still going, kicking, still kicking over there.
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 1: We are kicking and strong. And we're, like I said, we,
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: we got, we've done a lot of revamping in the
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: last few months. Uh, We've got a lot of new
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: things coming up. Like I said, we want to help people,
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: especially if they've had an experience and have some PTSD afterwards.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: Trying to set up a group to help people with that.
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 1: We've got a science division that is out of this
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 1: world right now. We've got a critical response unit. something happens,
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 1: we need something boots on the ground ASAP, we can
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 1: make that happen. We're working on getting a podcast going, newsletters.
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: We're trying to get sites updated. We're trying to not
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 1: only put in NADP cases that are working, we want
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: to get other cases people have included in that so
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: we get the whole gamut, the whole map of where, what, who,
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: and when it happened. You know what I mean? Yeah.
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: Whether it's one of our cases that came to us
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: or not. We want to make sure we've got everything listed.
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: And on my end, like I said, I started my
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: Between the Streams. It's more or less a research project.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: What I want to know, I want people's stories from
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: our local area. And I'm talking from running from Tennessee
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 1: up to Indiana and Illinois, because I'm not going to
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: say it's like a triangle, but there's a group of
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: land that runs between the lakes, between the rivers, running
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: from at least middle Tennessee up to southern Illinois. even
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: western or eastern Missouri on our end. And the paranormal
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 1: phenomenon is just outrageous. And I would like to hear
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: stories that I don't know about. Whether they be locals
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: or almost all this area is vacation spot. People come
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: in from all over the country. all summer long to
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: do the lakes, boat, fish, whatever. And I want to
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 1: hear your stories. I don't care if it's dog mailing, Bigfoot, ghosts, UFOs,
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 1: a monster fish you caught, whatever. I want to know
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: your strange stories. And let's weave this crazy web together
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 1: and see what we come Heck yeah.
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 2: Have you ever talked to Mike Smith from up there?
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 2: You need to talk to Mike.
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: I think I may have met him. You need to
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: talk to Mike.
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 2: Mike's got the story. He's got some stories. Him and Martin.
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 2: Those would be my three go-tos, of course. Mike came
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 2: on the show. His dad had a reptilian encounter at
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 2: the lake.
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen that show.
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he ran over something in his pontoon boat,
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 2: and all this blubber came out of the water. Man,
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 2: there's some kind of, like, lake monsters or something out there.
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 1: Well, I've got a couple of fishing stories from my past, too.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, do you? Something weird in the water?
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, we were, what do you call it?
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 1: Snag fishing, right? Yeah. Kentucky down one night. And my brother-in-law,
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 1: he snagged onto something. And we thought we should have
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: been able to reel it right in. But this thing
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: actually took off and snapped his snag rod. Now, snag
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: rod is not a dainty rod. It's a freaking, almost
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 1: a walking stick. But whatever it was, took off. He
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 1: had already seated himself, tried to pull this thing in,
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 1: and when it took off, it just snapped that rod
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: right in half. That's got a lot of weight behind it. Yeah.
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 2: And that's a big old lake. How deep is that lake?
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 2: Do you know how deep it is?
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 1: Kentucky Lake, it's not the deepest in Kentucky. I mean,
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 1: I'm going to guess it goes to 100, 150 feet
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 1: at certain points.
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's deep.
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 1: But that's not, that wouldn't be like common for the lake.
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 1: Now Lake Cumberland out in central and eastern Kentucky, that's
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 1: our deepest lake. And it can go up to like
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: 600 feet. Good Lord. And it's known as the house
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 1: boating capital of the world.
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. Oh no, that is deep. I've never
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 2: heard of one that deep.
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 1: I've done a lot of kayaking out there, and there's
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 1: some beautiful waterfalls you can kayak to on that lake. Wow. Oh, wow.
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's no telling what all kind of lake
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 2: monsters are in a 600-foot-deep lake.
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 1: Magic. It's also Cumberland River, so it's the same river
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: that makes up Lake Barkley. Oh. Oh.
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 2: So that, wow. Okay. Well, that makes sense. There's probably
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 2: all sorts of monsters down in there. I don't know.
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 2: Another reason for me to never go swimming in there,
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 2: including all the gravestones and stuff. I mean, that lake
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 2: takes lives.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 1: It does. Yeah.
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 2: Untimely deaths and stuff happen out there. The last time
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 2: I went, like that Wednesday before I got there, a
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 2: gentleman had, I don't know if he fell off his
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 2: boat or he jumped in to go for a swim,
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 2: and they found his body that next Friday or sometime.
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 2: the next day or two later they found his body.
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 1: It's not uncommon yeah.
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 2: It's just like late lanier all those great there's church
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 2: steeples underneath that water and trees and signs and everything.
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 1: And ghosts i don't know if you've seen the pictures
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 1: but there's one picture of one of our kayaking trips
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 1: there a grain bin which is actually in Tennessee but
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 1: it's Kentucky Lake but they left the grain bin standing
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 1: oh god it's basically a lookout point for tugboat traffic
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 1: and barges.
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 2: What? So that's like a big green silo looking thing.
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 2: Is that what that is? Oh my God. Sticks out
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 2: of the water.
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Oh my God. You can, we kayaked underneath it.
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 1: Several rooms you can go in when the water is
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 1: down low. Wow. But yeah, it, it still stands about,
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 1: I'd say 25, 30 feet out of the water.
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 2: I'll be, I'll be, man, sounds like a good place
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 2: to explore.
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 1: It is. It's easy to get to. It's literally like
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 1: a 10 minute kayak. Once you put in, you go around,
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 1: actually a train bridge right there. There's a restaurant on
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 1: top of it. The train bridge has been long gone,
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 1: but you can see the remnants of it. And you
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: paddle under the train bridge and then there's the silo.
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 2: Well, you are an avid kayaker, right? Tell me about
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 2: your kayaking stuff. You ever, you just kayaking around Kentucky mostly?
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I've done, we do, we done a lot of
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: kayaking in Kentucky, Tennessee, Illinois, and Missouri.
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, nice.
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 1: Our thing was my, my bass tech. And when I
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 1: played in the band, he was born with one hand.
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 1: And he literally invented a wristband that would hold a pick.
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 1: And he's a way better bass player than I am.
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 2: No way. That is amazing.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: But his ex-wife, whenever all their daughters graduated from college
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 1: and moved away, she was an avid kayaker. And she
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 1: just asked me if I would go kayaking. Because Brian,
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 1: he can play a hell of a bass, but with
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: one hand, he couldn't maneuver a paddle very good. So
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 1: I started going kayaking, and my dumb ass, I picked
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 1: a nine-mile trip. Oh, Lord.
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 2: You're there from sunup to sundown, probably.
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was getting into. I just
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 1: knew there was a waterfall on the Green River between
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 1: Mammoth Cave and boat ramps. The only way you could
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 1: get there was by kayak. Let's make that our first trip. Oh, Lord.
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 2: I hope you took a cooler.
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 2: Snacks and beers.
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 1: Once we figured out what we was doing, we loaded
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 1: up right. What we tried to do was never do
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 1: the same place twice. We always looked for a cave
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 1: to go look at or a waterfall to go look
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 1: at or natural springs that are 400 feet deep in
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 1: the middle of a cave in the middle of a
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 1: current river in Missouri. You know what I mean? Just
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: crazy stuff. Abandoned structures like the one on Kentucky Lake,
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 1: the silo. Yeah. So for almost three years, we would
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 1: do a kayaking trip probably six, seven times a year
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 1: and just go find some nutty stuff. And it was awesome.
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 1: It was just really awesome.
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of the nutty stuff, you mentioned mammoth caves
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 2: and the last, this is like the last thing I
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 2: want to ask you tonight. I'm not going to keep
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 2: you here all night.
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 2: Even though I'm having fun. Tell me about caves. You,
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 2: you like going caving? Are you a spelunker or are
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 2: you a, you go cave diving? What do you do?
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 1: Both. I, uh, If it's a natural raw cave, I
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 1: love to go in it as long as I got
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 1: the right equipment and somebody with me that knows what
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: they're doing. But as far as the shell caves, I
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 1: was an addict. I mean, from a kid, we did
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 1: school trips to Mammoth Caves starting probably second, third grade. Wow.
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: There's not a cave. And there's probably 35 caves around
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 1: Mammoth Caves. That's not even considered connected to it right now.
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 1: Some of them don't even exist anymore. But I have
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 1: been in every cave in that area at some point
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 1: in my life from grade school to adulthood. And then
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 1: there's several in Indiana. There's a bunch in Tennessee. I
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: love it. I mean, it's a whole different landscape. It's
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 1: almost alien in nature sometimes. Yeah. It's another type of adrenaline.
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain it. It's just a,
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 1: it's an amazing thing to see something that nobody really
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 1: gets to see. Yeah.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 2: Well, do you think that maybe the dog men and
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 2: the Bigfoots might be living in some of those caves?
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 2: You ever come across any kind of sign down there?
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely. I think they've, Yeah. Those are travel, they're
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: Native American travel points, so why wouldn't they be Dogman
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 1: and Bigfoot? Yeah.
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, they say you can take off in the
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: Grand Canyon and come out in Peru, so.
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 2: What?
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 2: Through caves?
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: Through caves. Well, dank.
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, well, there is a whole world underground, for sure.
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 2: And caves are not my favorite. I said that in
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 2: the intro today. I was like, oh, not my favorite.
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about it. I, we, I did that one cave.
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 2: We did a skinwalker cave investigation. We didn't, we didn't
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 2: know what we were getting into a couple of years
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 2: ago up in Tennessee, up in Whitleyville. And, uh, I did, it's, it's, uh,
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 2: It's spicy down in those caves, man. It's sticky. I'm
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 2: going to say sticky. That's a better way to put it.
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 2: All the mud and stuff. If something had rushed us
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 2: from the other end of that cave, we wouldn't have
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 2: been able to run because the mud was so thick.
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 2: And our shoes were getting stuck in it. And it
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 2: was crazy.
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 1: You get into the Hopi and the Ant people. And
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 1: you have the Cherokee and the Moonite people. They're all
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 1: talking about underground civilizations. that's right.
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 2: All them dog men down there probably Bigfoot and aliens
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 2: and all that and pale crawlers pale crawlers are another
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 2: one I think the guys encountered one of those in
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 2: the back of that cave as.
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: Far back as they went it's all connected it is.
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 2: We come full circle Trent I always do that on
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 2: my shows and we sure did so man I just
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 2: I really want to thank you so much for being
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 2: here tonight And I have thoroughly enjoyed this. And I
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 2: pray you come back. You're going to come back and
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 2: hang out with me again, please.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 1: Anytime you want. Just let me know if you've got
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 1: a cancellation. I might even be able to pull a
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 1: day like today when you just called me this morning.
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, let's do it. Screw it.
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 2: I know. I messaged you last night and I was like, hey,
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 2: do you want to come on the show? And then
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 2: I just had faith that you were going to hit
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 2: me back up. And you did. I fly by.
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 1: The seat of my pants, y'all.
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 2: I never know.
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get back on first shift. We had
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 1: a third shifter that quit a few weeks ago and
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 1: I got stuck on third shift and I didn't see
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 1: it till this morning. I was like, Oh my God.
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 1: And when I saw it, I was like, wait a second.
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 1: I said, George, is she talking about yesterday or today?
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 1: I said, Friday. I was like, Oh my God, that's today.
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 1: I got to message her right now.
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. Well, I sent you my phone number
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 2: and I don't send everybody my phone number. I was like,
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 2: but I wanted you on the show. So, thank you
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 2: so much for hitting me up today. And now we're,
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 2: now we're friends.
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 2: And, and hopefully I'll see you soon. And I'm going
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 2: to be, I'll be coming to Kentucky soon. I'm not
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 2: going to say when, but I'll be up there. So we'll,
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 2: we'll holler.
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 2: And we'll, we'll get out there.
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 1: For sure. Let's get some boots on the ground and go,
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 1: go paint and holler for a little bit and some hollers. Yeah.
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 2: Go to those scary cemeteries and stuff.
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 2: B-o-t-g boots on the ground y'all i.
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 1: Would love to show you the unknown cemetery i think
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 1: you'd get a big okay.
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 2: Well heck yeah i'm there i'm there walter says caves
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 2: freak me out me too walter me and you it
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 2: is it is let's see i got some oh i'm
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 2: reading the chat we have the best chat ever oh
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 2: my gosh we had a lot of We had a
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 2: good amount of like some of the NADP guys were
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 2: in here tonight. Awesome. Yeah, we had a lot of,
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 2: we even had Vic Cunningham tonight. Like, what's up, Vic?
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 2: Thank you for being here, Vic. And Bruce Brown and
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 2: Larry were here from the Cryptid Wrangler podcast.
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 1: I love Bruce. Yeah.
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 2: I know I'm missing a lot of people, y'all, but
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 2: I want to say thank you to everybody who's in
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 2: the chat tonight and everybody who stuck with us for
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 2: this amazing show.
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 1: I'd like to shout out Hopkins County Parent Trish and
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 1: Cryptid Illuminations.
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 2: Trish was in the chat tonight.
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 1: Awesome. Love Trish. Night Vision Paranormal. That's part of her team, too.
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: They kind of coexist. And North American dog man project.com.
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 1: Look it up. We need some team members in Georgia
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 1: and South Carolina. That's our hotspots right now that we
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 1: need some help in. So, and anybody that wants to
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 1: hook up with Kentucky, hit me up. Sweet.
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 2: And you guys can also go to the North American
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 2: dog man project. Are you region five? Is that your region?
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 2: That's the South.
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 1: Marcus Ellis is an awesome regional director. And you couldn't
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 1: ask for a better guy to take the reins. He's
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 1: in Mississippi. He's the director of Mississippi, but he's also
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: our regional director.
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 2: Mississippi. Well, heck yeah. Well, that's great. And yeah, well,
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 2: I love it. Hey, if you guys want to hear
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 2: some great dogman encounters, I'll go over to Vic's channel
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 2: as well. Dog Man Encounters. Thank you to Barton for
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 2: being here tonight as well. That's one of my LBL
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 2: buddies over there. Him and his wife, Tish. Yeah, I
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 2: don't know. We got a lot of people who have
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 2: Dog Man Encounters and stuff that come on my show.
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 1: I would love to talk to Barton and Martin. I
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 1: want to make that happen eventually. I've watched their stuff
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 1: for years.
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 2: Heck yeah. I'm always hanging out with them when I
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 2: go up there. I'll holler at you. Like I said,
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 2: we're friends now.
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 2: But, uh, but yeah, but thank you to, um, thank
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 2: you so much for being here so much. And can
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 2: people find your paranormal? I put it in the description box.
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 2: You have, you've got like an Instagram and stuff for
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 2: your paranormal. You're between the streams.
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 1: Okay. And that's because it's between the lakes. It's between
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 1: the rivers. It's between the frequencies. So yes. Between the streams.
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 2: Between the frequencies. I love that.
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 2: Well, that is wonderful. I know you had a long
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 2: day going to that Bigfoot Festival today. And I guess
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 2: I will see you soon, hopefully. And thank you so
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 2: much for being here. If I get any more Dogman reports,
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 2: I'll send them to you out of Georgia, okay? So
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 2: you guys can add them to your list. All right. Trent,
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 2: if that sounds okay. Oh, I think Trent's frozen.
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 2: Well, that is wonderful. Thank you, Trent, for being here.
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 2: You're the best. And so, yeah, you guys. I hope
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 2: everybody has a wonderful rest of your night. Thank you
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 2: so much to everybody who was in the chat tonight.
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 1: Let's see.
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 2: I got a few super stickers over here tonight. Miss
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 2: Sassy Frass, 86. Thank you for the super sticker. Larry Sharp,
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 2: thank you for being a member of the Hunt Club
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 2: for 29 months. Sass Saga, thank you for the super sticker. Angel,
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 2: thank you for the super sticker. And thank you to everybody.
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 2: All my moderators for being here tonight. Thank you guys
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 2: so much for all your support. And I hope you
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 2: guys will come back and see me on Monday. I
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 2: have a full schedule next week. We're going to have
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 2: a lot of great shows. And, oops, my stream yard
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 2: just froze. Are you there, Trent?
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 1: You still there? Okay. This is the first time I've
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 1: actually seen you move. It's been frozen the whole interview.
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, I was frozen?
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, we both were. I couldn't see nothing.
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Well, I was still talking no matter what.
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, the entire interview, it has been frozen. Really?
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 1: I've actually seen you last.
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 2: I was wondering. I was moving.
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 2: Well, that's weird. Yeah, we have some weird stuff that
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 2: goes on.
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 2: And you were frozen for a second there yourself. And
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, now I'm not frozen anymore. Actually,
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 2: neither of us were frozen the whole show, though, on
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 2: the stream.
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 1: I just knew I could hear you and you could
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 1: hear me.
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you could hear me. We could see
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 2: you the whole show. You weren't frozen or anything.
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 2: So yeah. Oh man. Hey, we make it happen. And if,
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 2: if we still, Hey, we were on podcast too. So,
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 2: so people can always hear us. If we look, if
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 2: we look weird, y'all just go listen to us instead. Okay. But,
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 2: but anyways, this is a, it's been amazing. Trent, thank
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 2: you so much again for being here. And yeah, Thank you.
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Y'all.
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, next week we got Ed Brown
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 2: coming on the show. Y'all know, sit down with Ed Brown.
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 2: I think it was called, he had a show back
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 2: in the day. Old school Bigfooters coming on the show
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 2: next week. So y'all stay tuned. And, and yeah, I
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 2: guess everybody go over to the NADP and check them out.
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 2: If you guys have a dog man encounter or whatever,
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 2: give them a report. That's where you send your reports. Okay.
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 1: Right. Okay.
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 2: Awesome.
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 2: Well, Trent, I guess I will see you soon. And y'all,
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 2: everybody have a wonderful, wonderful night. Please stay safe out there.
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 2: And I'm saying, Jessica, you weren't frozen. Neither was Trent. Okay.
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 2: So we were not frozen. Thank God.
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 2: But okay, Trent, you stay safe out there.
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 2: And keep searching.
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 2: Thank you. You hold down Kentucky for us until I
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 2: get there. I'm going to come up there and hang
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 2: out with y'all.
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 2: All right, everybody. Y'all have a wonderful night. And I'll
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 2: see you guys again on Monday, 1 p.m. Eastern, 12 Central.
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 2: And y'all keep your head on a swivel. Don't live
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 2: in fear. Do you have any advice for our audience
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 2: before we go tonight? I always ask the audience if
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 2: they have advice. Or ask the guests. Any advice for
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 2: the audience that anyone who ever encounters a dogman, what
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 2: would you tell them to do?
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 1: Keep your mind open. Yes. It can go a hundred ways, left, right,
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 1: north and south. Keep your mind open and use discernment
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 1: to the best of your ability.
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 2: I like that. Amen, brother. I like that one. Yes,
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 2: open mind always. And on that note, y'all have a
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 2: great night. I'll see you guys back here on Monday.
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 2: All right, y'all. See you later. Bye, Trent.
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 1: Thanks. Thank you.