Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Anya’s Account of Life Inside Jeffrey Epstein’s Cult (Part 1) (7/20/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. There are some people out there that still
- 0:07Speaker 1: want to run with the narrative that Jeffrey Epstein never
- 0:11Speaker 1: trafficked anyone to anybody else, But I'm here to tell
- 0:14Speaker 1: you that that narrative is an absolute lie. And the
- 0:18Speaker 1: crazy part is the doj and Todd Blanche know that
- 0:21Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and Jean Luke Brunel were trading girls amongst
- 0:25Speaker 1: themselves like they were sports cards. So people always say, well,
- 0:31Speaker 1: who did Jeffrey Epstein traffic someone to Jean Luke Brunel?
- 0:34Speaker 1: How many people do you need? How many is enough
- 0:37Speaker 1: to make it sick enough for you to care? How
- 0:40Speaker 1: many women being trafficked or girls being trafficked is enough
- 0:43Speaker 1: for it not to be a hoax? Because I promise you,
- 0:47Speaker 1: if the shoe is on the other foot, you guys
- 0:49Speaker 1: would be crying like nobody's ever cried before, just like
- 0:53Speaker 1: you're doing about the election files. But the truth is,
- 0:58Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein was trafficking women, maybe not on the scale
- 1:02Speaker 1: that people say you was, And I agree with that actually,
- 1:06Speaker 1: like I've told you from the beginning, and look, I've
- 1:08Speaker 1: never understood, trying to make things up when it comes
- 1:10Speaker 1: to Jeffrey Epstein, considering there's so much here that is damning,
- 1:14Speaker 1: why do you have to make things up or add
- 1:16Speaker 1: salaciousness or talk about things that are impossible to verify?
- 1:22Speaker 1: I mean, I get it if you're just a normal
- 1:24Speaker 1: person and you're talking about this topic understood. But if
- 1:28Speaker 1: you're somebody who cares about justice and you're a journalist
- 1:31Speaker 1: or whatever, you should be focusing on the mechanics. You
- 1:34Speaker 1: should be focusing on more than the surface level. And
- 1:38Speaker 1: when you get below that surface level, let me tell
- 1:41Speaker 1: you what you're gonna find as a lake with so
- 1:43Speaker 1: much depth that it's almost impossible to get to the bottom.
- 1:49Speaker 1: And in today's episode, we're going to talk about another
- 1:51Speaker 1: woman who was abused by Jeffrey Epstein and who is
- 1:55Speaker 1: housed at the building at eat sixty sixth Street. So
- 1:58Speaker 1: this is a relatively long article, so we're going to
- 2:01Speaker 1: break it down into a couple of parts. So now
- 2:04Speaker 1: that the table's set, it's time to eat. This article
- 2:08Speaker 1: was published by BBC and the headline Control Threats, Disfiguring Surgery,
- 2:14Speaker 1: My Life inside Jeffrey Epstein's Cult. This article was authored
- 2:18Speaker 1: by Chee Chee is Udoo, sorry pronounce that name wrong,
- 2:23Speaker 1: Olivia Davies, and Will Dahlgren. In the week after the
- 2:28Speaker 1: sex criminal financier Jeffrey Epstein died, Anya not her real name,
- 2:33Speaker 1: opened the door of her New York apartment. Outside was
- 2:36Speaker 1: Epstein's brother Mark, telling her she had to leave, she says,
- 2:40Speaker 1: and look, Mark Epstein had a big stake in that building.
- 2:44Speaker 1: As far as Jeffrey Epstein's crimes, there is no proof
- 2:49Speaker 1: that Mark Epstein was involved in any of that. Now. Financially,
- 2:53Speaker 1: who knows. We've never had a look at the books.
- 2:56Speaker 1: But as far as abusing people, nobody has ever said
- 2:59Speaker 1: that Mark Epstein was part of that, not that I've heard.
- 3:05Speaker 1: Anya had lived for years in one of several flats
- 3:07Speaker 1: on East sixty sixth Street in Manhattan used by Jeffrey
- 3:10Speaker 1: Epstein to house women he abused. In one moment, she
- 3:13Speaker 1: lost her home but escaped the nightmare. Mark Epstein denies
- 3:17Speaker 1: he was aware of his brother's wrongdoing. I mean, what's
- 3:20Speaker 1: he gonna say. Yeah, I knew my brother was out
- 3:22Speaker 1: here diddling people, but I decided not to say anything.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Does that sound likely? No? It doesn't, right, So of course,
- 3:30Speaker 1: the best idea is to be quiet. I'm still struggling
- 3:34Speaker 1: to reconcile with the fact that I was abused for years.
- 3:37Speaker 1: Anya says, you were not chained to adore or something, right,
- 3:41Speaker 1: You were not locked up in a basement. The chains
- 3:43Speaker 1: were less obvious, but they were there. And that's a
- 3:46Speaker 1: fact people just don't want to understand. And I think
- 3:49Speaker 1: a lot of it has to do with ignorance. I
- 3:52Speaker 1: think a lot of people just don't understand what it
- 3:54Speaker 1: means to be destitute. Like it's one thing to be broke, okay,
- 4:00Speaker 1: it's another thing to not have anything. And unless you
- 4:03Speaker 1: experience that yourself or had friends going through it when
- 4:06Speaker 1: you were growing up, then you don't understand. I can't
- 4:10Speaker 1: tell you how many people I knew growing up that
- 4:13Speaker 1: had nothing. I mean absolutely nothing. I grew up poor too,
- 4:18Speaker 1: but my parents they always had, you know, food on
- 4:21Speaker 1: the table. I always had clothes, always had, you know,
- 4:25Speaker 1: the best clothes, the best shoes. I had no idea
- 4:28Speaker 1: the strain it was putting on my parents to get
- 4:29Speaker 1: me that stuff. And I remember when we first moved
- 4:31Speaker 1: to Las Vegas, when my grandmother was dying of lung cancer.
- 4:35Speaker 1: My dad used to get up every morning, strap on
- 4:38Speaker 1: a tool belt and walk to the Las Vegas Strip
- 4:41Speaker 1: looking for construction jobs. And I watched him do that
- 4:44Speaker 1: basically every day of my life while I was growing up.
- 4:48Speaker 1: And then eventually Pop's got a better job working at
- 4:51Speaker 1: one of the casinos and then worked his way up
- 4:54Speaker 1: from that entry level job to running the whole last
- 4:57Speaker 1: entertainment department in multi casinos in Las Vegas and down
- 5:02Speaker 1: in the Bahamas. But while he was grinding, shit was
- 5:05Speaker 1: not easy. And as rough as that was, I had
- 5:08Speaker 1: friends who had it even worse. Friends whose parents were
- 5:10Speaker 1: on drugs, friends whose parents were in prison or dead.
- 5:13Speaker 1: They had nothing, and you should have seen their eyes
- 5:18Speaker 1: light up when you know, we'd go out somewhere, my
- 5:20Speaker 1: parents would invite them, and we'd be able to take
- 5:22Speaker 1: them with us. So what I'm trying to tell you is,
- 5:26Speaker 1: unless you've experienced it, and unless you've been around it,
- 5:28Speaker 1: it's hard to understand. You know, for most people, two
- 5:31Speaker 1: hundred dollars means nothing, right, two hundred three hundred bucks
- 5:34Speaker 1: a big deal. But to these kids, to these people
- 5:36Speaker 1: that have nothing, it was a gigantic deal. And their
- 5:41Speaker 1: circumstances led them to go back to Jeffrey Epstein's house
- 5:45Speaker 1: multiple times. Epstein, who died in twenty nineteen while awaiting
- 5:49Speaker 1: charges for sex trafficking children, used to say that his
- 5:52Speaker 1: operation was like a cult, and he was the cult leader.
- 5:55Speaker 1: Anya says she's given the BBC a rare account of
- 5:59Speaker 1: life as one of Epstein's assistants, detelling how the financier
- 6:03Speaker 1: maintained a holdover so many of his victims for so long.
- 6:07Speaker 1: The assistants were a group of women, roughly a dozen
- 6:10Speaker 1: at one time, Anya estimates, who were housed by Epstein,
- 6:13Speaker 1: worked all hours at his back and call, and were
- 6:16Speaker 1: abused by him on the regular. Anya says they were
- 6:20Speaker 1: drawn in with elaborate deceptions and empty promises of work
- 6:23Speaker 1: before he began to coercively control nearly every aspect of
- 6:27Speaker 1: their lives, exploiting any weakness he could uncover, and that
- 6:31Speaker 1: was his m O. And the more vulnerable you were,
- 6:34Speaker 1: the better off he was, because he'd exploit it. Oh
- 6:37Speaker 1: you got a sick mom, I'll love take care of her,
- 6:40Speaker 1: but first, Oh you want to go to school? Okay?
- 6:43Speaker 1: But and everything was transactional, Every last thing that Jeffrey
- 6:47Speaker 1: Epstein ever did transactional. She says, he controlled their finances,
- 6:51Speaker 1: dictated who they saw, and psychologically demean them. He monitored
- 6:56Speaker 1: their bodies obsessively, Anya says, and forced her to have
- 6:59Speaker 1: aunt necessary disfiguring surgery. All facts, and look, I've been
- 7:05Speaker 1: trying to chase down a conversation with one of Epstein's
- 7:08Speaker 1: assistants for a very long time, and that assistant is
- 7:11Speaker 1: Nadiya Marsenkova. And I believe that Nadia has a story
- 7:16Speaker 1: to tell us. And as far as Epstein's assistants go,
- 7:19Speaker 1: the core of four, she's the only one who I
- 7:22Speaker 1: think deserves any kind of sympathy. I know that there's
- 7:25Speaker 1: this big push for Sarah Kellen Vickers to be a
- 7:28Speaker 1: sympathetic figure, but I have a hard time with that.
- 7:31Speaker 1: I've just had too many conversations personally with people who
- 7:35Speaker 1: say that she was involved directly in what happened to them.
- 7:39Speaker 1: So I have a very very hard time with Sarah
- 7:41Speaker 1: Kellen Vickers, especially considering she was an adult when she
- 7:44Speaker 1: came into this. Now, if you were a kid, different story, right, sixteen, seventeen,
- 7:50Speaker 1: even fifteen, whatever, different story. But you're an adult. Look,
- 7:55Speaker 1: I understand you had a tough life. A lot of
- 7:57Speaker 1: people do, but that doesn't mean you can go out
- 8:01Speaker 1: and hurt people on behalf of Jeffrey Epstein. And now
- 8:04Speaker 1: they push to try and make her this innocent victim.
- 8:08Speaker 1: I don't like it. I have to tell you now.
- 8:11Speaker 1: That said, I'm willing to listen to what she has
- 8:14Speaker 1: to say because, as you know, I'm willing to follow
- 8:17Speaker 1: the evidence, and I might have missed something. I'm not
- 8:19Speaker 1: perfect and I don't have access to all the documentation,
- 8:23Speaker 1: so if I miss something, I'd love to know. But
- 8:28Speaker 1: so far, I'm not convinced that Sarah Kelln Vickers is
- 8:32Speaker 1: this big, gigantic victim. What she victimized, she was, There's
- 8:36Speaker 1: no doubt about that, let's be clear. And for that,
- 8:39Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't think any one of these women
- 8:43Speaker 1: deserve that, none of them. So this isn't like, you know,
- 8:48Speaker 1: I hate Sarah Kelln Vickers as a person, but I
- 8:51Speaker 1: believe that accountability is so important when it comes to
- 8:53Speaker 1: this topic because if not, it's just gonna happen again
- 8:56Speaker 1: and again, because here's the blueprint, or some sick degenerate,
- 9:00Speaker 1: all you have to do is follow this blueprint, right,
- 9:03Speaker 1: So I think it's very important that everybody that was
- 9:06Speaker 1: responsible answer for their actions. Whether that's legally, whether that's civilly,
- 9:12Speaker 1: or it's societal, there has to be a reckoning. Her
- 9:17Speaker 1: account of Epstein's control is echoed by Sarah Kellen, another
- 9:21Speaker 1: former assistant. She told the US House Oversight Committee earlier
- 9:24Speaker 1: this year how Epstein presented himself as the assistant savior.
- 9:29Speaker 1: He was very good at just decimating your ability to
- 9:31Speaker 1: make your own decisions and have your own autonomy, and
- 9:35Speaker 1: it made you more and more dependent on him. She said.
- 9:38Speaker 1: If that was the case, how did Sarah Kelln Vickers
- 9:40Speaker 1: end up marrying a NASCAR driver? You know, she talks
- 9:43Speaker 1: about this horrible life she had, but it doesn't really
- 9:47Speaker 1: add up to me, especially when you look at the scheduling,
- 9:50Speaker 1: you look at how she was still friendly with Epstein
- 9:52Speaker 1: after the arres. I'm sorry, but I don't buy it. Okay,
- 9:56Speaker 1: I don't buy it. I'm willing to listen, but as
- 9:58Speaker 1: of right now, I do not buy and I don't
- 10:01Speaker 1: find Sarah Kellen Vickers to be in the same category
- 10:04Speaker 1: as the other victims. If you want to say that
- 10:06Speaker 1: she's an abuser who was abused to herself, okay, I
- 10:10Speaker 1: can get down with that, but you can't put her
- 10:13Speaker 1: in the same category as one of those girls from
- 10:15Speaker 1: Palm Beach High School. There's a bias which tends to
- 10:20Speaker 1: make people think that only children are susceptible to this
- 10:23Speaker 1: type of corision. But you can be groomed as an adult,
- 10:26Speaker 1: says doctor Taraquin Sorillo, a clinical psychologist who has worked
- 10:31Speaker 1: with victims of course of control. You can be vulnerable
- 10:34Speaker 1: to this, she says, Yeah, that only goes so far.
- 10:38Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but it only goes so far. So every
- 10:40Speaker 1: time somebody abuses somebody, they can just say, hey, look
- 10:43Speaker 1: I was groomed. I had this normalized for me. Meanwhile,
- 10:48Speaker 1: I'm a forty two year old woman. Come on, stop it.
- 10:51Speaker 1: Nobody buys that. And some of these quacks that they
- 10:54Speaker 1: get up here to run their stupid ass nonsense, in
- 10:57Speaker 1: my opinion, they do more harm than good. I mean,
- 11:00Speaker 1: look at the Didty trial. Look at how Diddy's lawyers
- 11:03Speaker 1: absolutely savaged the prosecution experts. So you're playing with a
- 11:08Speaker 1: double sided knife here, right, a double sided blade, and
- 11:13Speaker 1: that shit cuts both ways. But there's a lot of quackery, folks,
- 11:17Speaker 1: There is no doubt a lot of quackery. When it
- 11:20Speaker 1: comes to these so called mental health doctors. After Jeffrey
- 11:25Speaker 1: Epstein was convicted in two thousand and eight of abusing
- 11:27Speaker 1: a teenage girl whom he lured to his home with
- 11:29Speaker 1: the offer of work as a messuse, he changed tactics.
- 11:34Speaker 1: He began largely targeting adult women, mostly from Russia or
- 11:37Speaker 1: other parts of Eastern Europe. You know, who has been
- 11:40Speaker 1: telling you this for years? Like if people would have
- 11:42Speaker 1: just listened and not just me, by the way, Okay,
- 11:45Speaker 1: when I say who's been telling you this, I mean
- 11:47Speaker 1: people in this sphere, the people that understand the story.
- 11:51Speaker 1: We've been yelling this shit from the rooftops for like
- 11:54Speaker 1: seven years. Everybody was too busy though, Everybody had other
- 11:59Speaker 1: things to do, and we were all looked at like
- 12:03Speaker 1: Candice fucking Owens, like we're a bunch of quacks. But
- 12:05Speaker 1: the truth is there's always been a mount of evidence here,
- 12:09Speaker 1: and anybody who knows me knows I'm not going to
- 12:11Speaker 1: spend seven years of my life chasing dead ends. That
- 12:14Speaker 1: is not how I roll. I have other things to do.
- 12:17Speaker 1: And if you think I enjoy sitting here screaming into
- 12:20Speaker 1: the wind on a regular basis, you're wrong. But I
- 12:23Speaker 1: feel like this is so important that we have to
- 12:26Speaker 1: continue to talk about it until there's some action. And
- 12:29Speaker 1: listen the legacy media. They'll tell you that they're just
- 12:31Speaker 1: learning all of this, But that's not true. They knew it.
- 12:34Speaker 1: They just didn't care, folks, that's the truth. Anya says.
- 12:40Speaker 1: She and many of the other women recruited still look
- 12:43Speaker 1: like teenagers, however, and she showed the BBC photos of
- 12:46Speaker 1: herself at the time to demonstrate. Anya had grown up
- 12:50Speaker 1: in Russia, emerging from communist rule, with strict parents who
- 12:54Speaker 1: drilled into her that education will be your success, she says,
- 12:57Speaker 1: and that's a fact. Huh. What parent doesn't tell their
- 13:00Speaker 1: kid that go to school, have a better life, do
- 13:04Speaker 1: great things. But opportunity was scarce, and armed with her degree,
- 13:12Speaker 1: she left Russia to work as a model. She worked
- 13:15Speaker 1: in Europe for luxury brands such as Fendy and Chanel.
- 13:18Speaker 1: She had friends, a support system, and family. She could
- 13:21Speaker 1: fly back to sea whenever she wanted. In her early twenties,
- 13:25Speaker 1: she came into Epstein's orbit when she visited a Paris
- 13:28Speaker 1: agency and met modeling scout Daniel Syed, and Daniel sayed,
- 13:33Speaker 1: according to the documentation, was another key member of the
- 13:36Speaker 1: European pipeline. Remember he was somebody that worked with Jean
- 13:40Speaker 1: Luke Brunel. And if you're looking for trafficking and how
- 13:44Speaker 1: it went down here it is. And by the way,
- 13:46Speaker 1: Todd Blanche is a liar, Okay, straight up, no doubt
- 13:49Speaker 1: about it, straight with no chaser. Dude's a liar and
- 13:55Speaker 1: anybody that confirms him, they should lose their seat. And
- 13:59Speaker 1: I truly mean that. In her early twenties, she came
- 14:01Speaker 1: into Epstein's orbit when she visited a Paris agency and
- 14:05Speaker 1: met modeling scout Daniel sayed. He complimented her intelligence, which
- 14:10Speaker 1: is not typical in the modeling industry, Anya says, and
- 14:13Speaker 1: suggested introducing her to a friend of his with connections
- 14:17Speaker 1: in the fashion business. That friend, Jeffrey Epstein. Anya says
- 14:22Speaker 1: she used to wonder what would happen if she had
- 14:24Speaker 1: not stopped by the agency that day, but she now
- 14:27Speaker 1: believes that she was targeted. It was a complete setup,
- 14:30Speaker 1: she says, describing say ed as essentially a professional trafficker. Yo,
- 14:37Speaker 1: facts are facts, right, And if it walks like a duck,
- 14:40Speaker 1: quacks like a duck, my man, you might be a duck.
- 14:46Speaker 1: Sayed's name appears thousands of times in the Epstein Files,
- 14:49Speaker 1: the massive collection of documents about the financier pedophile released
- 14:53Speaker 1: by the US government in January. Sayed's lawyer said he
- 14:57Speaker 1: was not available for comment, but he previously denied any
- 15:00Speaker 1: knowledge of the threat that Epstein posed. And that's the defense, right.
- 15:05Speaker 1: I had no idea. What do you mean the government
- 15:07Speaker 1: didn't even know. How am I supposed to know? Oh,
- 15:10Speaker 1: the government knew. They covered it up. That's the problem.
- 15:16Speaker 1: Anya says she first met Epstein at his sprawling eighteen
- 15:19Speaker 1: room Paris apartment, decorated with pictures of himself posing with
- 15:22Speaker 1: people such as Bill Clinton and other world leaders. She
- 15:26Speaker 1: says that she felt comfortable because there were two other
- 15:28Speaker 1: women present, one Russian and the other Epstein's then girlfriend
- 15:32Speaker 1: from Eastern Europe. Epstein asked Anya to undress so he
- 15:36Speaker 1: could see her body from modeling, she says. As she
- 15:39Speaker 1: stood in her underwear, she says, the financier told her
- 15:42Speaker 1: she was not in shape and needed to start working out,
- 15:45Speaker 1: calling her lazy. Imagine Jeffrey Epstein's bitch ass talking about
- 15:49Speaker 1: how somebody else looks this fuck face shows up and
- 15:52Speaker 1: then dumbass weatpants, them goofy ass shoes and that dumbass,
- 15:57Speaker 1: stupid face. And it's a shame that nobody ever came
- 16:03Speaker 1: up with a cure for what Jeffrey Epstein was suffering.
- 16:06Speaker 1: And you know what that element was, fuck faceitis. The
- 16:10Speaker 1: audacity of this man to talk about the appearance of
- 16:12Speaker 1: anybody else. And look, I'm not gonna sit here and
- 16:15Speaker 1: tell you your boy is Sommadonna's right, certainly not these days.
- 16:19Speaker 1: I'm getting old, got some gray hair, you know, the
- 16:22Speaker 1: whole thing. But I'm not running around telling people they
- 16:25Speaker 1: need to get in shape or they need to start
- 16:27Speaker 1: working out. This rotten son of a bitch has no
- 16:31Speaker 1: business ever telling anybody to go to the gym or
- 16:34Speaker 1: how they should look. Comments such as these were common
- 16:37Speaker 1: in the modeling industry, Anya says, and she believed his
- 16:41Speaker 1: claims that if she worked hard, he'd introduce her to
- 16:43Speaker 1: the right people. Anya says he asked about her family,
- 16:46Speaker 1: her interest, what I thought I was trying to accomplish
- 16:49Speaker 1: in life, why I was doing modeling, all things that
- 16:52Speaker 1: mattered for me. You don't get asked those questions in fashion,
- 16:55Speaker 1: She says. Several women have told the BBC that Epstein
- 16:59Speaker 1: liked to learn what mattered to them so that he
- 17:01Speaker 1: could later use the information against them. Epstein never created
- 17:05Speaker 1: any dossiers, He never collected compromand he didn't do that.
- 17:08Speaker 1: He was a lone predator who just liked the diddle
- 17:10Speaker 1: kids and watched CP. I'm so fucking tired of it.
- 17:13Speaker 1: Stop gaslighting me. Okay, I've had enough. Your boy has
- 17:17Speaker 1: reached his level of gaslighting, and I have truly had enough.
- 17:23Speaker 1: He also addressed her concerns had on and I see
- 17:26Speaker 1: that you're smart and you're suspicious, she recalls him, telling her,
- 17:29Speaker 1: I don't want to sleep with you. Oh sure you don't, Jeffy.
- 17:33Speaker 1: Anya says this put her even more at ease. I
- 17:36Speaker 1: was telling myself, Gosh, this guy is just incredible. He
- 17:39Speaker 1: can see right through me. She says. All right, folks,
- 17:42Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap up the first episode here, and in
- 17:45Speaker 1: the next episode, we're gonna pick up where we left off.
- 17:49Speaker 1: All the information that goes with this episode can be
- 17:51Speaker 1: found in the description box.