Latest / Mythmakers / Mythmakers Encore: Andy Serkis Audio Book of The Lord of the Rings - Our Verdict
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- 0:00Hello and welcome to the MythMakers podcast brought to you by the Oxford Centre for Fantasy.
- 0:11This is the podcast for everybody who loves fantasy, old and new.
- 0:16My name is Julia Golding, I'm a writer but I'm also the director of the Oxford Centre
- 0:21for Fantasy, which in particular has a focus on J.R.R. Tolkien and the Inklings as well
- 0:28as other fantasy writers who have come out of Oxford.
- 0:32In today's episode I thought I would tackle the big thing that's recently happened for
- 0:38all of you who love Tolkien, which is the new recording unabridged by Andy Circus,
- 0:44the entire reading of the Lord of the Rings.
- 0:46It's just come out and is the first time that an unabridged recording has been added to
- 0:53your choices since the Robert English version back in 1990.
- 0:59But I also wanted to add into the review of the comparison of the various options you
- 1:05have, the much earlier 1981 BBC dramatized version, because for many people that is where
- 1:13they begin their listening journey.
- 1:16So taking those various options in order in which they were produced, I'd like to give
- 1:22you a little guide as to what you might find if you choose to go with one of those.
- 1:29Now let's go back to 1981.
- 1:32I actually remember this being made, it was a huge part of my childhood that the BBC
- 1:38had done this fantastic version.
- 1:41It was dramatized in 26 episodes and in those days of course it wasn't on demand, you
- 1:48had to wait with your cassette tape recorder to record them if you wanted to listen again
- 1:53and I have to admit to doing that.
- 1:56The cast was Stella, some of the names many of you will recognise so Ian Holm played Frodo
- 2:06in the BBC version and he returned as Bilbo in the Peter Jackson films.
- 2:13Gandalf was played by a man who was like a very well known actor at the time, Michael
- 2:19Horden.
- 2:20I actually knew him as a child because he was the voice of the Paddington cartoons but
- 2:25he also was a very notable film actor.
- 2:28Robert Stevens, he is perhaps also known for being once married to Maggie Smith, he played
- 2:35Aragon and Bill Nye, he played Sam and there were lots of other very notable people, John
- 2:44Le Miserie, played Bilbo and those of you who have watched the British comedy programme
- 2:52Dad's Army, he was in that cast so you can see they really were able to attract into
- 2:58the recording studio a really superior team of voice actors.
- 3:04Now, a really nice thing about the BBC version is that it was directed by two women, Jane
- 3:12Morgan and Penny Leicester and they did a really excellent job in choosing their material
- 3:18dividing it up.
- 3:19They brought along Stephen Oliver, whose music I think is definitely amongst the best versions
- 3:26of the songs, extremely singable.
- 3:31They also had little extras at the end of the, some of the episodes where you could have
- 3:36even more songs if you wanted, like I remembered there was an extra set from Treebeard at one
- 3:42point in the two towers.
- 3:45So they did a really, really excellent job in bringing the poetry of Tolkien into the
- 3:53dramatisation.
- 3:55I think that one thing to point out is they took some cuts, like Peter Jackson did, they
- 4:01didn't include Tom Bombadill.
- 4:04There was sort of, you know, there is a argument that Lord of the Rings, the Fellowship of
- 4:09the Ring takes a long time to get going and the Tom Bombadill material isn't really important
- 4:15later on in the plot so it's an obvious cut if you want to slim down your offering.
- 4:23They also had really good, simple, special effects.
- 4:29So when you listen to it, you do feel very, if you lay in bed or in the car or wherever
- 4:35you are, you really feel in the world with sort of wind sounds and the idea of particularly
- 4:44the black riders they have a very ghostly tone.
- 4:49There's a very good smiegel as well.
- 4:53I mean, we all got so used to Andy Circus, but actually the person who takes on smiegel
- 5:02in this version, that's Peter Woodthorpe, he for me until I saw the piece Jackson films,
- 5:12he was the smiegel, the voice of, and he had previously voiced the same character in
- 5:20the Ralph Bakshi animated version and I believe that the gentleman who played Boramir, Michael
- 5:28Graham Cox also had appeared in that version too as a voice actor.
- 5:33So there's some lovely crossings over between the various versions.
- 5:39So I would say that it was just such an excellent production, really very high class.
- 5:49For me, the voice that I didn't quite warm to, and this perhaps is just a personal taste,
- 5:56is I found Robert Stevens as a, he felt older and I happened to sort of already know what
- 6:04Robert Stevens looked like because he'd appeared in some children's dramas at the time and
- 6:10he had played a bad guy in a version of, I think it was a box of delights, the John Maysfield
- 6:16story.
- 6:18And I remember feeling he wasn't quite right.
- 6:22So for me, that was one of the weaker sides of that production, but definitely highly
- 6:29recommended, particularly as I mentioned earlier, for the quality of the songs, which they
- 6:36do really, really well.
- 6:38So moving on, we're heading a bit more into the digital age, but not quite yet.
- 6:45In 1990, actor called Robert Inglis sat down and recorded an unabridged version of the
- 6:57Lord of the Rings.
- 6:59It was directed by Claudia Howard, and the music is a variety of either music sort of noted
- 7:09by Tolkien, something that Robert Inglis had, a dog sharp his name is Inglis or Inglis.
- 7:15I think I'll go of Inglis.
- 7:18He'd made up himself and also Claudia Howard also added some music too.
- 7:25In the production, I think they re-released it at the same time as the films.
- 7:32It has some very nice musical interludes that signal the end of a book and the beginning
- 7:39of another.
- 7:40They use this same production note in the Martin Shaw version of Silmarillion, and then
- 7:50well chosen, a sense of almost like the tie is leaving, and I think it really adds to
- 7:59that version.
- 8:01What do you get when you listen to Robert Inglis?
- 8:04Well, you get a very professorial tone.
- 8:09I kind of tell myself it's a bit like sitting listening to Tolkien, read it to you, and
- 8:15that is a big plus point.
- 8:18It's very good.
- 8:19He doesn't push too far away from a reading voice.
- 8:24It's not a dramatized reading, but he does find a lot of different notes and you're never
- 8:31confused by who's speaking.
- 8:34He doesn't extremely good job, and I think it's very listenable.
- 8:40It definitely has a quality about it, which is very relaxing, and the perfect audio book
- 8:50in a sense that you can just let it wash through you and wash over you and you go with the
- 8:55story.
- 8:56I think that perhaps he's less good on how to put this because it feels a bit like a
- 9:06period piece.
- 9:07It's almost surprised to find it was recorded in 1990 because he feels like he could have
- 9:13recorded it in 1950.
- 9:16There is an element of it feeling slightly old fashioned.
- 9:19I think it might be the tone and the feeling of a gentleman of a certain age.
- 9:27What you're getting, as I'm saying, does feel quite appropriate to imagining it being
- 9:31a bit like Tolkien reading to you.
- 9:34Let us move on now to the big new player in the field, and that is Andy Circus' version.
- 9:42Now I think it's really interesting finding Andy Circus, having dedicated what must have
- 9:48been a very large part of his life recently.
- 9:53Maybe it was a lockdown project to recording this.
- 9:59I think that what you get, of course, is it feels much more familiar to people who have
- 10:05come at Tolkien from the film.
- 10:07So the very first thing to say is when he chooses a character voice, he very often is
- 10:14channeling what you see from the screen thanks to Peter Jackson.
- 10:19So for example, the choice to make Pippin Scottish.
- 10:23The Shah is a very small place, and it's quite funny to think that within such a small
- 10:31area there are such wildly different accents, which is perfectly fine.
- 10:38And I can see that it distinguishes the hobbits from each other.
- 10:41But I'm also thinking of, of course, Billy Boyd as he does the voice is fine, but just
- 10:46warn you that there is that element of hearing film actors underneath what Andy Circus is
- 10:52doing.
- 10:53The other thing, the other actor who is very clearly an inspiration for a voice is Boromir,
- 11:01totally Sean Bean, very good interpretation of Sean Bean, again, the choice of an
- 11:08Northern accent there.
- 11:10So that I think will please lots of people, because they will be clued in, they can imagine
- 11:20almost seeing a version of the film in their imagination happening.
- 11:25The other thing about Andy Circus' approach is unlike Robert Engels who, as I said, had
- 11:31more of a reading voice and doesn't push too far into the drama.
- 11:36There is more energy and more performance behind Andy Circus' version.
- 11:41So in terms of listening experience, there is peaks and troughs.
- 11:45There is actually more, what is more dramatic and it is a performance as opposed to a reading
- 11:55if I can draw that distinction.
- 11:59I have to have some caveats.
- 12:04There are a couple of things in it which for me are a problem and they come particularly
- 12:10at the beginning of the Fellowship of the Ring, which is he is not that great at singing
- 12:16the Hobbit songs.
- 12:18He does get better, I felt, as the Fellowship of the Rings went on, but there are some
- 12:24pretty ropey songs.
- 12:25Either he has not been given a great tune or he has decided they don't sing very well.
- 12:31And that was a bit off-putting.
- 12:34And the section which I find really difficult and disappointing was Tom Bombardill.
- 12:40He's gone for a very bombastic tone and it has just really jared for me.
- 12:50I disliked it intensely.
- 12:52If I'm going to listen alongside I would go and listen to that chapter done by Robert Engels
- 12:58in future who doesn't send it up as much.
- 13:01Maybe that because this character didn't appear in the films there wasn't a sense of who
- 13:06he could be and he comes across it being.
- 13:11He doesn't seem to have the gravity or the depth and the earth, he's the oldest creature
- 13:19ever alive and the Andy Circus version makes him feel really annoying.
- 13:27So I don't recommend those chapters.
- 13:30But everything else I've thoroughly enjoyed and massive, massive plus point, which is
- 13:37why you might go for this version over the others if you're a talking nerd, is that when
- 13:43it's said to be an unabridged version, it is an unabridged version.
- 13:47He does the prefectory material.
- 13:50The talking introduction is absolutely fascinating as a scene setter for what you went
- 13:54on to hear.
- 13:56And the appendices, now that is a really bold choice by the people who have produced this
- 14:01audio book, but hooray.
- 14:03So now you can actually hear the appendices read as well, which is great.
- 14:08That's new material and I think it's worth definitely buying Return of the King.
- 14:14If you've already got say the Robert Engels version, you might want to say pick that one
- 14:18because you've got a whole load of new material at the end.
- 14:22And of course, he gets to be gollum again.
- 14:25So that's pretty good, isn't it?
- 14:27I find the strongest voices for me in what he's done, the sweet of voices he's done.
- 14:33I really like Frodo and Sam, I think they're really good.
- 14:39And also his arrogant is great.
- 14:42It's a sort of slightly deeper Andy Circus voice, very attractive.
- 14:45It doesn't have the problem I found with the Robert Stevens of being too plummy.
- 14:50It's got a very, it's not a takeoff of Vigo Mortison at all.
- 14:57If you're looking for a voice actor whom it's a bit like, it sounds a bit like Clive Lewis,
- 15:01it's got a very nice tone.
- 15:03And you can think, yeah, this is one of the heroes.
- 15:06So thank you very much, audible for giving us yet more hours of talking to enjoy.
- 15:13If I was going to finish with sort of like my star review, I think for performance as
- 15:19in drama, you would have to struggle to beat the BBC version.
- 15:24That's definitely five stars.
- 15:26Robert Ingles on performance in drama is more of a three.
- 15:34And Andy Circus is another five star for a single voice actor.
- 15:39In terms of listenability, they all score really highly.
- 15:43They're all five stars.
- 15:46But if I was going to give you a sort of wish one, do I buy?
- 15:50I'd say if you've got a family listening, go for the BBC version.
- 15:54If you are personally listening on your own, the choice between the Andy Circus and the
- 16:00Robert Ingles version is, do you want to be read to or do you want to be performed at?
- 16:05And that's where I would decide which one I'm going for.
- 16:10And of course, if you're like, get all of them, which is what I've done.
- 16:14And depending how I feel, I choose the one I want to.
- 16:18So thank you very much for listening.
- 16:20And that's my view on the audio versions.
- 16:24But before we leave, I always in every podcast, try and choose where in the world is the
- 16:30best place to go.
- 16:32And for this episode, I thought we'd choose where in the fancy world is the best place
- 16:37to be ill.
- 16:38Because listening to the Lord of the Rings again reminded me just how often, particularly
- 16:44Frodo gets ill or gets wounded and how important healing and medicine is.
- 16:52Now, obviously, you might say the best place it to go in Tolkien's world for healing
- 16:57would be the houses of healing in Ministerus.
- 17:02That's all or of course, Rivendell, where you've got Elrond as the sort of master healer.
- 17:09But I was also thinking outside of Tolkien's world, I'm very fond of a fantasy series
- 17:17that starts with a book called War Prize by Elizabeth Fawn.
- 17:22And what I like about that series is that the character arc of the main character is
- 17:28that she brings, it's not that magic or anything like that, she brings conventional medicine
- 17:36to the invaders who come to her country.
- 17:40She's handed over as a war prize and her role is to teach these people the importance
- 17:45of healing.
- 17:47And I really enjoy that.
- 17:48That's the dilemma.
- 17:49It's an unusual dilemma to have in a fancy book that her job is to persuade them that,
- 17:53you know, you don't just kill somebody when they get injured.
- 17:56They give them the mercy stroke because, you know, a broken leg meant they'd never be
- 18:01able to be a warrior again.
- 18:02She is turning around their traditions and their understandings about strength, weakness.
- 18:10And what is really strong is that necessary muscles, it's intelligence and caring and all
- 18:15those kind of things.
- 18:16So, in a sense, I would say the best place for healing might be in Elizabeth Fawn's
- 18:24war prize, just to ring the changes, not always choosing Tolkien, you see.
- 18:28There, of course, going to see a Lewis, it's very useful to have Lucy's cordial on hand
- 18:33because that seems a very quick pick me up, pretty much almost bringing you back from
- 18:38the dead, so not quite, but almost.
- 18:41So, that's also a little, you know, if you're going to travel, have Lucy's cordial with you,
- 18:46that would help.
- 18:48So that's the answer to where in the world.
- 18:51I hope that you've also had a chance to listen to our podcast that we did with the live stream
- 18:56about the forthcoming Amazon Prime series set in Tolkien's second age, where I was joined
- 19:04by Paula Calamaris writer and Thai Trusdale filmmaker.
- 19:09If you haven't caught up with that yet, it's available on YouTube, Facebook and also
- 19:15as a podcast, so please do check that out and let us know what you think.
- 19:20So, until next time, thank you very much for joining us here at MythMakers.
- 19:25Goodbye.
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