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Atlanta Wins Big on Monday Night Football, Tyreek Hill-Chiefs reunion? NFL suspends referees, Tony Romo & CBS part ways + NFL post-Week 4 Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The Volume. What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff, Three
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  Speaker 1: and Out Podcast. How are we doing? Hopefully everyone is
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  Speaker 1: doing well. And probably better than the Saints who just
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  Speaker 1: got destroyed on Monday Night Football. The Atlanta Falcons kind
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  Speaker 1: of trending. They definitely look pretty good. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: people making fun of them, but they were playing on
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  Speaker 1: these primetime games. They have answered the bell, so we'll
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  Speaker 1: dive into that. Tyreek Hill, comeback to the Chiefs. There's
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  Speaker 1: some referees got suspended. Tony Romo, I don't think we've
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  Speaker 1: talked about, got fired. Some thoughts on just experience with
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  Speaker 1: some of these younger coaches who are, feels like a
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  Speaker 1: little over their head right now as coordinators. And I'll
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  Speaker 1: relate it to watching Clint Kubiak, another young guy who's
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  Speaker 1: now a head coach. We'll do some mailbag questions, maybe
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  Speaker 1: a dad diary. I attempted to feed him alone today.
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  Speaker 1: That didn't go great. And that'll be the show. So
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  Speaker 1: hopefully everyone is doing well out there. And we're here
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  Speaker 1: We got a lot going on as we head into
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  Speaker 1: week five. So let's just dive into the fighting Stefanskis.
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  Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons were getting made fun of by everyone
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  Speaker 1: because after two weeks, they look like one of, if
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  Speaker 1: not the worst team in the NFL. And then the
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  Speaker 1: last two weeks, they have destroyed the Packers and destroyed
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  Speaker 1: the Saints on a night that for a lot of people,
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  Speaker 1: was probably really important. The building, at least pregame, had
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  Speaker 1: a vibe of like, peak Drew Brees, peak Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is going to be really, really cool.
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  Speaker 1: And then B. John Robinson might still be running like
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  Speaker 1: he's Forrest Gump. The Atlanta Falcons, overnight, feels like that
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  Speaker 1: one buddy you know, who's kind of down and out,
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  Speaker 1: lost his job, doesn't have much money. His girlfriend left him.
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  Speaker 1: He's just in shambles. And then you see him like,
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  Speaker 1: Three months later, he's skinny, driving a Mercedes, new gig,
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  Speaker 1: babe on his arm. It's like, what happened to you?
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  Speaker 1: Because in the blink of an eye, there is no
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  Speaker 1: disputing the Atlanta Falcons look pretty good. And for everyone, including,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm guilty of going, we got to watch
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  Speaker 1: the Falcons. The last two weeks, it's actually turned into
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  Speaker 1: their opponent. We got to watch the Packers. And listen,
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  Speaker 1: I'm someone that had the Saints making the playoffs thinking
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  Speaker 1: they were going to win this division. I'm sorry they're not.
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  Speaker 1: And it does feel right now with Michael Penix playing
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  Speaker 1: quarterback for him and Bijan, like, let's just be real.
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  Speaker 1: There can't be, I would say, offense or defense, five
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  Speaker 1: better players in the NFL than him. And you would
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  Speaker 1: say over the course of the last two weeks, that's
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  Speaker 1: as good as you can play. Like, he is an
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  Speaker 1: unstoppable force. And the thing is with Stefanski and this
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  Speaker 1: type offense, if you can run the ball, you're going
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  Speaker 1: to have some layup throws. And as someone who was
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  Speaker 1: a huge Michael Penix, Kalen DeBoer, Ryan Grubb, Washington fan,
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  Speaker 1: this Michael Penix has some similarities to the guy that
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  Speaker 1: dominated the Pac-12. That his last year there with that
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  Speaker 1: crew of dudes and Kalen stormed into the national championship game.
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  Speaker 1: Now they got killed. They were a little overmatched. But
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  Speaker 1: they not only beat Oregon in the Pac-12 title game
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  Speaker 1: as a big underdog, then beat Texas as an underdog.
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  Speaker 1: This guy's been in a lot of big moments. And
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  Speaker 1: if you do give him time, which he definitely had tonight,
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  Speaker 1: and you're going to have when you are gashing people
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  Speaker 1: on the ground. I mean, Brian Robinson, their backup running
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  Speaker 1: back at three touchdowns. They scored 45 today, and honestly,
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  Speaker 1: that feels low. Like the game that I just witnessed,
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  Speaker 1: a rivalry game, on the road, just crazy. They shut
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  Speaker 1: them up immediately. Honestly, when it was 14-0, now the
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  Speaker 1: Saints multiple times have been down. They came storming back
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  Speaker 1: against the Lions and obviously beat the Ravens. This kind
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  Speaker 1: of felt different. Maybe it's because we had just witnessed
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  Speaker 1: this team on Thursday night, but I got to give Stefanski,
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  Speaker 1: I got to give Jeff Ulbrich, who I remember watching
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  Speaker 1: as a kid playing for the 49ers. They're doing a really,
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  Speaker 1: really good job. And this team, from a physical standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they're hitting on defense. They draft Walker, I think,
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  Speaker 1: 15th overall from Georgia. Well, they lose him for the season.
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  Speaker 1: Pierce has the incident, so he's gone for who knows
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  Speaker 1: how long. And listen, we can question the guy's character,
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  Speaker 1: and that is more than fair. I mean, he was
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  Speaker 1: a major red flag in the draft. The guy was
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  Speaker 1: a certified ass-kicker as an NFL player, as a rookie.
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  Speaker 1: And if... Like, you insert him onto this defense, which, again,
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  Speaker 1: the NFL's not into morals. Like, if you're cleared, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if things just disappear, however that happens in the court
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  Speaker 1: of law, you know, in the judicial system, teams are like, cool,
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  Speaker 1: strap it on, let's roll. And I just think the Falcons,
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  Speaker 1: we have seen two NFC South teams over the last
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  Speaker 1: 24 hours offensively look pretty elite. And I get it,
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  Speaker 1: the Saints are missing a ton of guys. Obviously, the Lions'
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  Speaker 1: defense stink. But the way those teams played, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Bryce in that passing game last night and this B.
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  Speaker 1: John Robinson explosion on the ground with Michael Penix and
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  Speaker 1: the upgrade they have from quarterback, like, that works. And
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  Speaker 1: here's the other thing. They are going to a really,
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  Speaker 1: really hard stretch, the Atlanta Falcons. They, in theory... They
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  Speaker 1: were playing, this upcoming week, the Ravens on Sunday Night Football.
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  Speaker 1: Then they're playing the Bears. And then they're playing the 49ers. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm recording this on Monday night, so time will tell
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  Speaker 1: over the next couple days. But last I saw, Lamar
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  Speaker 1: Jackson left the game in a walking boot. So I
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  Speaker 1: think it is fair to go, yeah, they might get
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley this week. And the Chicago Bears, there's definitely
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  Speaker 1: no guarantee Caleb Williams is playing in that game. So
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  Speaker 1: you could get Tyson Bajet. So you get back-to-back weeks
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  Speaker 1: with backup quarterbacks. Now the Ravens defense with Minter in
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  Speaker 1: theory should have a much better opportunity to at least,
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  Speaker 1: it's hard to slow down great players, but just neutralize
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  Speaker 1: them a little bit than the Packers and the Saints
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  Speaker 1: did and put a little bit more pressure on Michael
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  Speaker 1: Penix because if Michael Penix is going to have games,
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  Speaker 1: and anyone in the in the Shanahan kind of run
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  Speaker 1: first type offense scheme, where they have less than 25 attempts.
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  Speaker 1: I think tonight he finished with 20 pass attempts. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they're going to be in pretty good shape.
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  Speaker 1: When they have way more rushing attempts than pass attempts,
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  Speaker 1: usually means with this offense, it is going well, which
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  Speaker 1: also means those pass attempts come off the play action.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think it's an apples to apples comparison,
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  Speaker 1: but I was looking, you know, Drake London's basically 6'4,
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  Speaker 1: 220 pounds. When Mike Evans, obviously an older player now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, his weight might fluctuate a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: came out of college, you know, you're talking about a
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  Speaker 1: guy 6'5, 230. And both of them, exceptional ball skills.
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  Speaker 1: Evans probably faster. I don't think Drake London ran a
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  Speaker 1: 40 at the combine. But, like, they are big targets,
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  Speaker 1: good route runners. And it's like, who are you going
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  Speaker 1: to put on me? A bigger, slower corner? Well, I'm
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  Speaker 1: more skilled than that guy. A smaller, quicker corner? I
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  Speaker 1: will play basketball, throw it up top. Because my ball
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  Speaker 1: skills are so elite. And they kind of have a
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  Speaker 1: trio going. The quarterback feels very comfortable after a long layoff.
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  Speaker 1: Their running back is playing as good as any player
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL. Their backup running back looks like he
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  Speaker 1: would start on half the teams in the league. And
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  Speaker 1: Drake London now feels... you know, reinvigorated because he has
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback that can pass. I mean, the first two games,
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  Speaker 1: they couldn't even make it in the red zone. It
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  Speaker 1: was like, it hadn't happened since, if I remember correctly,
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  Speaker 1: like the 60s. I mean, it's like historically impossible to
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  Speaker 1: play multiple games and not one time get in the
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  Speaker 1: red zone. And they didn't even get close. And it
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  Speaker 1: turns out like, yeah, when your quarterback is that poor,
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  Speaker 1: and listen, I've been hard on Stefanski. If I was
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  Speaker 1: going to defend him over the course of the last
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  Speaker 1: couple years, his quarterback situation all last year and the
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  Speaker 1: first two games this year were pretty embarrassing. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think Bill Walsh or Bill Belichick or Kyle Shanahan or
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  Speaker 1: Andy Reid could do much with that situation. I don't
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  Speaker 1: care who you are, when you get random quarterbacks who
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  Speaker 1: come into the game that would not start for anybody,
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  Speaker 1: that would struggle to be backups for a lot of teams,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be hard to function. Because they clearly
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  Speaker 1: have offensive weapons. I mean, they have a lot of
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  Speaker 1: just NFL players on offense. And you'd be like, well,
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  Speaker 1: of course, it's the NFL. But I just mean guys
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  Speaker 1: that would play for really good offenses. Obviously, Pitts, whose
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  Speaker 1: utilization changes kind of game to game. It always feels
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  Speaker 1: like he's underachieving, but he is a really talented player.
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  Speaker 1: They draft Zachariah Branch from Georgia. Austin Hooper's been in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL forever catching balls. Zaccheaus, I've seen that guy
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  Speaker 1: be really productive. Remember he played for the Bears? So
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  Speaker 1: John Dotson's been illegal. To go along with Drake London,
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  Speaker 1: they have a lot of other pieces, and obviously they
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  Speaker 1: can run the ball. So I don't want to act
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  Speaker 1: like the Atlanta Falcons are some NFC contender, but they
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  Speaker 1: have a formula to be a playoff team. And I
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  Speaker 1: think them and Carolina have a true identity. Obviously, Tampa's dead. Like, DOA.
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  Speaker 1: It's over. I think the Saints, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: completely write them off yet, but they have had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of bad moments so far in 2026. For someone,
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  Speaker 1: obviously they came storming back in the second half against
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  Speaker 1: the Lions and won that Ravens game. But man, they
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  Speaker 1: couldn't have looked any worse in the beginning of the
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  Speaker 1: Lions game. Last week, they blew that thing. So they're
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  Speaker 1: a hard team to trust. Here's the other thing. When you,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they were bad last year. The Saints, that is.
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  Speaker 1: And they have the eighth pick, and I think they
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  Speaker 1: have the 40th pick. So let's use the Chiefs as
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  Speaker 1: an example, who are drafting right near them. When you
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  Speaker 1: watch the Chiefs yesterday against the Raiders, you see Mansard
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  Speaker 1: Delane out there No. 5, and you see our Mason
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  Speaker 1: Thomas out there rushing the passer. I'm not even counting
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  Speaker 1: Peter Woods, who they also used because they had the
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  Speaker 1: pick from the Rams. But just their two picks. When
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  Speaker 1: you're drafting high, Howie Roseman's getting a lot of shit
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  Speaker 1: for his draft last year. the year he won the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So it'd be these guys' second year. It's like, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to defend them here, but if you
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  Speaker 1: look historically for a lot of teams, usually when you
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  Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, that year drafting is hard because
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  Speaker 1: you're drafting 32, 64. You have the last pick in
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  Speaker 1: every round. It sucks. So unless you get a gift
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  Speaker 1: or some crazy character guy, it's hard to get the
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  Speaker 1: sweet players. When you're drafting 8th and 40th, you get
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  Speaker 1: the pick of the litter of that round or especially
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  Speaker 1: in the second round, like 40 is a very powerful pick.
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  Speaker 1: Look how many guys that are stars in the NFL
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  Speaker 1: that are drafted in the second round. And they, in
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  Speaker 1: the second round, they took Christian Miller. who I watched
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  Speaker 1: some of his clips because I was kind of bored
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  Speaker 1: because his game was so terrible. He was awesome in
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  Speaker 1: his preseason debut. He looked like, God, this guy could
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  Speaker 1: be an All-Pro. Then I think he gets hurt or
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  Speaker 1: something during the Lions game, and he's been inactive. He
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  Speaker 1: was inactive the night. And tonight, he didn't have an
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  Speaker 1: injury designation. But regardless, you're getting nothing out of that pick.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously, Jordan Tyson, who was a polarizing pick, I
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  Speaker 1: read a story today like, yeah, he ain't coming back
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  Speaker 1: anytime soon. So you're getting nothing out of your top
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  Speaker 1: two picks. And let's face it, part of the reason
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  Speaker 1: you were drafted that high is because you're missing some dudes.
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  Speaker 1: Yet I'm watching Atlanta like their high-end guys are playing.
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  Speaker 1: And Drake London was a high pick. B. John Robinson
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  Speaker 1: was a high pick. Michael Penicillin. I'm pretty sure all
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  Speaker 1: three of those guys pick eight picks. maybe Bijan was
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  Speaker 1: like pick five or six. Michael Penix was pick eight.
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Drake London was pick eight as well.
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  Speaker 1: So what I need you to become a star when
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  Speaker 1: I draft that high. And I'm not saying a rookie
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  Speaker 1: is just going to come in and dominate, but like
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  Speaker 1: Chris Lavi needs some help. And you know, you, you
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  Speaker 1: sign a Chan who I ETN, everyone called him that forever.
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  Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, my name is different. He's obviously
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  Speaker 1: gone for a while with this hammy. Alvin's older and
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  Speaker 1: not quite the same guy, but, And they obviously defensively,
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  Speaker 1: they had injuries, but they, they, I don't even know
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  Speaker 1: if it would have mattered. I really don't. Because like
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  Speaker 1: what I don't quite understand when you're playing in a
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  Speaker 1: guy like Bijan is like, we're basically putting nine and
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  Speaker 1: a half guys, you know, on the line of scrimmage. If,
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  Speaker 1: if some of your wide receivers not named Drake London
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  Speaker 1: are going to beat us, so be it. But this
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  Speaker 1: guy's not going to go for a buck 50. Because
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  Speaker 1: the moment he busts that run, it's like having a
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  Speaker 1: Barry Sanders, a McCaffrey, a Gibbs. When those guys just
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  Speaker 1: set the tone early, you feel like you're on your heels. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, McCaffrey can't run like Bijon at all anymore.
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  Speaker 1: But Gibbs is probably the only other guy. Like, if
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  Speaker 1: that guy gets green grass, there is no catching him. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Brandon Staley is an interesting name on this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I've always said he's a pretty good defensive coordinator. He
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  Speaker 1: got I don't know if much he could have done.
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  Speaker 1: Even Aikman was kind of defending him. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: with the guys he's running out there. But I do
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  Speaker 1: believe everyone's at the line of scrimmage. And if Michael
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  Speaker 1: Penix is going to turn into Steve Young back there,
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  Speaker 1: we'll tip our hat. It's like in basketball. We just
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: can't leave Steph Curry open in the corner. If some
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  Speaker 1: of these other guys are going to hit threes, we'll
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: high-five them on the way back on offense. But I
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  Speaker 1: just think the Saints thing, it's not good. And especially
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  Speaker 1: because you got major question marks with the guys they
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  Speaker 1: drafted high. I almost have to discount them moving forward.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I still think they can win some games. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback has talent. But they were getting, I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know who's rushing the passer for Atlanta. And it
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: felt like they were all over Tyler Shuck tonight. He
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: got sacked multiple times, but he was getting pressured constantly.
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  Speaker 1: He's always on the move. And they couldn't run the ball.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to run the ball when you're down. But
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  Speaker 1: that was an impressive win for Atlanta. And I think
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  Speaker 1: you see these two teams the last two nights. Those
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  Speaker 1: two young quarterbacks, both of them were the starting quarterback
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  Speaker 1: in the national championship in college. These aren't some guy
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  Speaker 1: from some little school, guy that went 6-6 and 7-5
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  Speaker 1: but put up huge numbers. A smaller school, like a
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  Speaker 1: non-Power 4 guy or a D1AA guy. These guys played
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  Speaker 1: on the biggest stage with a shitload of people watching. And, like,
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  Speaker 1: if you let either of them get into a rhythm,
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  Speaker 1: I think we saw Bryce Young and Michael Penix, like,
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  Speaker 1: they can slice and dice you. And anytime that you
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: can just hand it to, you know, Bijan Robinson, it's
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: going to make playing quarterback a lot easier. So if
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: I'm an Atlanta Falcon fan, I think it's fair to go.
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  Speaker 1: We can make playoffs. Because to make the playoffs in
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  Speaker 1: that division, it's like, can we get to 9? Because
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: if we get to 9, we've got a really good shot.
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  Speaker 1: If we get to 10, we are a playoff team.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say 10 and 7 100%
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  Speaker 1: wins this division. I think 9 and 8 gives you
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  Speaker 1: a really good shot. I think when I watch the
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: Falcons and I watch the Panthers, there's definitely, they have
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  Speaker 1: the capability to be 9 and 8. And then the
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  Speaker 1: difference is in one of these swing games, maybe against
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  Speaker 1: a better team, do you play one of your best
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  Speaker 1: games and get the win? Because they're both liable to
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: have a stinker. They could probably lose to anybody. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Bichon has a game where he only goes for 40
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  Speaker 1: or 50 yards. Obviously, they could probably lose to anyone
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  Speaker 1: on their schedule. But they also could take some people out.
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  Speaker 1: And we saw it last year when Atlanta took out
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  Speaker 1: the Rams who needed the game late in the season.
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  Speaker 1: And just took them out. Why? Because they got sweet players.
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  Speaker 1: And happy for Michael Penix because he had a million
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: knee injuries. Uh, it obviously got a little weird in
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: training camp, but it clearly feels like he's over that
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: hump and you let him throw that deep end that,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: you know, the deep comeback, a go route down the sideline.
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  Speaker 1: There's something, it's like a left-handed, you know, uh, a
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: hitter in baseball. There's something just pure about that stroke.
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  Speaker 1: And when that thing leaves them, say what you want
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: about Tua, you know, million concussions turned, you got worse
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: and worse. But early on when that ball left his hand,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: it was like, there's something beautiful about that ball just
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: flying in the air. So, uh, Yeah, Knight celebrating the
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: 20th anniversary of Katrina and all those guys being there
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: to get absolutely demolished like that one, that's tough. That
• 17:36
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• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Hill and his agent. I would say one of the
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: best salesmen I've ever seen in my entire life. Whether
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I know them personally or just from the outside, feels
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: like Drew Rosenhaus. I mean, yesterday, after Tyquan Thornton's ankle
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: is pointing the other way, Rosenhaus is like, oh, Veach
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: and the Chiefs reached out. Like, oh, it makes some sense.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Just give a call, see, check up on some status, right?
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: We're going to be missing a deep threat. He had
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: been coming on. He had been spreading out the offense.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Totally get it. And then by the time, like, before
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: lunch on Monday, it's like, bunch of teams have reached out.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: He will sign within the next couple days. It's like, Drew,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: we remember like a month ago when a video came
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: out that said his leg didn't work and it was
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: going to take some time. He's like, yeah, he'll also
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: hopefully be ready by November. We've all been watching football
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: long enough to know this. That injury was pretty gruesome.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: And this was a player who was very predicated on
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: being one of the fastest athletes we've ever seen. One
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: of the most explosive athletes we've ever seen. And I
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: understand if I was the Chiefs, you're not doing your
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: job if you don't. Hey, could we get a status
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: update on this? Could he send us some workout videos?
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Could we bring him in for a physical? That's the
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: job of Brett Veach. That's the job of all these GMs.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: In these times in the NFL, I remember the anxiety
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: that would come over me when I worked in the
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: office because I was always holding the short list, working
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: on the short list, of when there was an injury. Hey,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: so-and-so broke his leg in training camp. So-and-so broke his
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: leg week two. We need to bring in these three players,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: work them out, and potentially sign one because we're going
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: to elevate a guy up from the practice squad. And
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: it would be, you'd feel some pressure to have the
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: right names on the list, to have the guys for
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Howie to look at, to then develop like, hey, we
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: want to be interested in these three guys to bring
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: in on Tuesday morning for a workout in the bubble. Now,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I can't even imagine these personnel departments with the amount
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: of injuries that are going on around the league, keeping
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: track of this ever-changing list. It's insane. Guys like Tyreek Hill,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: you know, famous veteran players who were on the street
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: because of injury are easy to, you know, keep track of.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: And the only reason he's not in the NFL, obviously,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: is because the knee doesn't work. But by, you know,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: it's crazy how fast it shifted by Rosenhaus, like, oh,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: by the end of this week, he'll for sure be
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: on a team. It's like, really? Are you sure? And
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I think any time that you find yourself in desperation,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: which the Chiefs are not in, Like, why is he
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: saying that? Because he wants to get more money, which
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: is his job. That is his gig. Totally understand. Right.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Why can you go to David Mulgetta's Instagram and constantly
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: see him taking pictures with Deshaun Watson, who every human
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I meet in society is like, oh, gross. Deshaun Watson,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: you just bring up that name. It's like icky. Yet
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Mulgetta fucking is like his favorite client. Well, of course
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: it is. Two hundred thirty million dollars. And that's his
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: second contract extension. Also signed a big one with Houston.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: If I was in Mulgetta's shoes, I'd love the guy too.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Made me a bunch of money. Say whatever he wants.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Love the guy. Bullshit. Love the business. That's the gig
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: you're in. Same with Drew Rosenhaus. Tyreek Hill has been
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: a cash cow for him. And my friends at Polymarket
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: put this up that Tyreek Hill's next team. 85% of
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: people think it's going to be the Kansas City Chiefs.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: It's kind of weird. 14% think it's going to be
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. Sneaky because, you know, the Cleveland Browns,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I saw today, Florio wrote, like, there's still like a
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: pending investigation. With Tyreek, I mean, there's some off the
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: field stuff with the guy. His name has popped up
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: a time or two. You're like, whoa, what the hell's
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: going on here? I would be a little shocked. It
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: feels like the Cleveland Browns, a wide receiver, especially when
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: it comes to speed, have that taken care of. The
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Houston Texans are 14% and the Raiders are 14%. I'm
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: pretty confident that Clint Kubiak is, you know, at this
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: point in time, and listen, the Raiders need a wide receiver.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: But I think the Raiders and the Chiefs If he's 100% healthy,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: for sure, you'd be very interested. I'm no doctor. I've
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: been watching football long enough and hearing these own clients, like,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: he's never going to be remotely the same. I think
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: it is fair to assume that. The Tyreek Hill that
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: we knew and who's a first ballot Hall of Famer
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: and one of the great players I've ever seen, I
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: think that ended the moment his knee snapped on that field.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I think it was a Thursday night game. So... Listen,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Brett Veach's job right now is to survey the landscape
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: and go, what's it going to take for us to
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: get some help at wide receiver? Rasheed Rice also got
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: hurt in that game. Xavier Worthy has kind of established himself.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: It kind of is what it is. And it's like,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: we can only give Kenneth Walker 25 to 30 touches
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: a game for so long before it's like, it's getting
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: a little risky here. And my guess is that Tyree
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Kill does not end up on the Kansas City Chiefs.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I could be wrong. But I don't think we see
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: him play in the league this year. I just don't.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Based on the injury, based on his own words. And
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I know Drew, who is an all-time great salesman. Like,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: if you did Mount Rushmore of salesmen, Rosenhaus, his face
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: deserves to be on there. Right? I mean, 100% is
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: as good as it gets. If I was a player,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: he would be the type of guy you would want
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: to represent you. I mean, what's it, Sharks Never Sleep,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I think is his book. I mean, he's a badass.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: And they had a lot of success, and Tyreek wanted
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: to raise, and the Chiefs wouldn't give it to him. Boom,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: he got him to Miami. And it was a win-win
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: for both. Tyreek got super rich, and the Chiefs ended
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: up winning two Super Bowls. But I think that it
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: makes more sense if I'm Brett Veach. Like, we're pretty good.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: There are some bad teams in this league. Is there
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: a guy on one of these teams? One, is there
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: someone worth like a fourth or fifth round pick that
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: we could trade for? Or is there a bigger name
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: that we can start dangling like, hey, we'll give like
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: a second and a fourth and get us an impact
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: player at wideout? Or do we have other guys on
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: the practice squad at 4-0? We're going into a bye week.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: We got a little breathing room. We could go a
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: game or two and just try out some other guys.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Because one thing you are not, there are some teams
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: that are completely desperate. If you're 0-4, I'm sorry, you're fucked.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: You're not making the playoffs. Your season is not over.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: You could still have a respectable 8-9 type year. But
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: you ain't winning double-digit games. If you're 2-2, you're on
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: tilt a little bit. You're really going to find out
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: where you're at over the course of the next three
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: or four weeks. If you're 4-0, the Chiefs are staring
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: at with ease 7-2. So you can take a deep breath.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Get the landscape of what some of the guys that
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: you haven't been using a lot elevate up. Is that
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: difficult with Patrick, a veteran wide receiver? But to think
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: that Tyreek Hill is returning from that injury when he
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: literally was just on camera like a month ago saying
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: about the strength and the power of the leg. I'm sorry,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I don't believe it. So my guess is that he
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't play for the Kansas City Chiefs this year. That's...
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: That would be my guess. So 85% of people are
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: going to turn out to be wrong. Another story I
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: saw today was the referees from the weekend incidents. One
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: guy screaming F-bombs at Trey McBride. And the other shoved,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I think, is Eric Wilson of the Minnesota Vikings. Kind
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: of a weird play. Like, they both, I think, Ollie Gordon,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: they kind of got bumped and shoved into him. Referee flew.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: He got up. At first, I wanted to give him
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt. Like, he thought he was
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: breaking up a fight, but it kind of looks like
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: he was getting aggressive. A little bizarre. And the guy
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: that dropped the F-bombs suspended two games. The other guy
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: suspended one game. It does feel a little bit like,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: look at what we did. It's like, well, I want
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: to look over here. You know what all the officiating,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: missing calls every single game, every single series, every single play.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Sean McVay, one of the most prominent coaches in the league,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: said last week, yeah, the NFL told us that shouldn't
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: have been a defensive pass interference. You know, it should
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: have been an interception. I'm like, that's kind of a
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: big deal. That's kind of a pretty big, yeah, missed
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: that one. Like, I think there's a balance, right? Part
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: of the entertainment of sports is the human element. And
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I do think we miss some of that. It's like, yeah,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: there's human error. There are massive fuck-ups. When I was
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: a senior in high school, I did a little side gig.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: My buddy Juan Medrano was like, hey, bro. They'll pay
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: you like $ 15 an hour to umpire Little League games. Like, shit,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I'll do that. I need something to do, kill some time.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Maybe take a couple hours, make a little side cash.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: So I umpired Little League games. And I was umpiring
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: like the AAA championship. So it's like probably 10, 11-year-olds.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: And I remember this kid... through just an awful pitch.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: It was, you know, the game was on the line
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: last out. It was like a three, two count. It
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: wasn't even close. And for whatever reason, I don't know
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: if I wasn't thinking or I froze or whatever. I just,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I kind of stood there for a second and then
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I just called a strike. And I remember the, the
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: coaching staff or the team that just lost the game
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: went berserk. The guy started screaming. And my initial reaction
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: was like... I just kind of walked away. You know,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I was like, what are you even going to say?
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: But I completely blew it. And I still remember to
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: this day that the pitch was awful. And I, maybe
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention. I had, I was going to
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: my girlfriend's house. I, who knows? I just wasn't focused
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: and I screwed him bad. Um, And I've always said,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: being an official in all these sports is hard. These
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: athletes have never been faster. They've never been stronger. We're
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: dealing with human beings. The human element used to lead
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: to great television, great blowups, great explosions, especially in baseball.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: One thing you don't get anymore is some of the epic,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: legendary managers running out, going toe-to-toe forever with whoever they
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: thought screwed up the call. Why? Because they just go
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: to the monitor now. And football is no different. We
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: have 7 million views of a replay. You can slow
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: it down to the millisecond and we just know what's
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: right or wrong. I mean, there was a play yesterday
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: in the Bronco game, in the Niner game, where it's
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: like he fumbles the punt. And it looked pretty clear
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: to me that he just landed on his forearm slash elbow,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: which means you're down. Then the ball came out. So
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I went to the bathroom. I'm just trying to suck
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: water and coffee during Sundays, you know? So it's like
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: you got to run out and I don't want to
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: pee in the tree. So I got to work my
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: way into the house from outside. And I come back
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: and the Niner's like, just scored. I'm like, what? And
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: so I text a buddy really quick. He's like, yeah,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: they didn't overturn it. They came back really quick. I
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: was like, well, I mean, they said his wrist hit.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, if you watch the play live 100%,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: even in relatively slow motion, it just looked like his
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: forearm hit You know, the ground can't be caused by
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: the fumble that way. It should just stay their ball.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: But now we have all these different angles and it
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: becomes way more controversial. So we all think that all
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: these officials are awful because we do get in a
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: lot of situations, especially in this modern day, like the
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: way it's officiated, that no one can get hit. No
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: one can get touched. You hear defenseless wide receiver. I
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: don't know how anyone that's ever played football could say
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: there is such thing as a defenseless wide receiver. If
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: you're running a route over the middle of the field,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: guess what? There are people there that play defense. That
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: their job is to tackle you and hit you. There
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: was a play, was it yesterday? I forget the game.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Someone got lit up over the middle of the field.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: It was shoulder to shoulder. It might have been college. No,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: maybe it was Thursday night football. And it was clear
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: shoulder to shoulder. It's like, well, it's not targeting. And
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: they just called all defenseless receiver 15 yard penalty. I'm like,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: someone asked me recently in a mailbag, what's the biggest
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: difference from the football you grew up on in the 90s,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: even the early 2000s to someone that's like 20 years old,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: that's been watching it the last 10, seven, eight years.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I said that right there. That's just a hard hit
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: over the middle of the field. It's on the quarterback,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: like the quarterback screwed up. I actually think it might've
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: been cousins in the chiefs. And I think even cousins
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: went like this. I have so many football players running
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: through my brain, but that's it. And they just get,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: instead of an incompletion, it's just a 15 yard penalty.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: It's like, well, that wasn't actually a penalty in the
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: history of the NFL till recently. Cause he's a defenseless
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: wide receiver. And I do think Roger can suspend these
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: guys and go, look, look what we did, NFLPA. We
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: got your back. It's like, well... Should the referee be
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: screaming F-bombs at a player like that? Obviously not. But
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: if you were an official and you're getting screamed at nonstop, like, listen,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: sometimes I lack emotional control. I probably would say something
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I regret. Our bigger issue, as anyone that consumes football,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I would say definitely any player or coach that plays it,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: can you just get the fucking calls right? Can you
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: just like, that's not pass interference, don't call pass interference.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: That's a hold, call a hold. That's not a hold,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: don't call a hold. And it feels like on every
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: single penalty, for the most part, it's a complete coin
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: flip whether it's going to be right or wrong. And before, listen,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: there's always been bad calls, but it definitely feels more
• 34:04
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• 34:07
  Speaker 1: there's a penalty every other play. It's like, Jesus Christ,
• 34:10
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• 34:11
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  Speaker 1: so you can use it later. Thank you, SeatGeek. The
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: other story that we kind of missed because it happened,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I think, on Friday. Maybe it happened on Saturday morning.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I don't even remember now. But CBS released a statement
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: that Tony Romo and they have mutually departed, also known
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: as they got fired. And I was thinking about this.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: That one of the issues, or it felt like the
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: main issue that CBS had with Tony Romo is he
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: didn't work hard. Think about that. Can you imagine, and
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: maybe this is just the way I was raised, you
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: could call me a lot of things. Dumb, mispronouncing some words, chubby,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I'm working on it, bald, ugly, say whatever you want. Yeah,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: that's probably some truth to everything you're saying. If you
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: called me lazy, or your work ethic sucked, or anything
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: in that vein... that would rattle me, especially if it
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: was true. But I would say most people worth their salt,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: no matter any of their flaws, at least in my
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: experience of life. I grew up around a lot of
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: people that were farmers. I would say one thing, especially
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: all the successful ones had in common, and listen, they
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: all had some major flaws as human beings. Work ethic
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: was not one of them. And then when I got
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: into football, I had a front row seat for Pat
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Hill and Andy Reid. I would say their work ethic
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: was like an A +. And even the people I
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: was around in media, they were crushing it. They couldn't
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: have worked any harder. I spent a lot of time
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: around Greg Papa, who is obviously going through some health
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: scares right now in the Bay Area. But he was
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: a notorious grinder getting ready to call games and work
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: on television and radio shows and His work ethic was
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: unlike anything I'd ever seen. And it was honestly kind
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: of inspiring. And I would say most people, like think
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: about especially former quarterbacks. Take Peyton Manning or Tom Brady.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: We could say Tom's getting work done, eats a weird diet,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: gets in some weird stuff with the Paul brothers or whatever.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: But I don't think anyone's ever said, you know what
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Tom is? Kind of a lazy dude. Not focused. Peyton Manning.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: It's like, God, he's in so many goddamn commercials. I've
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: never heard one person be like, yeah, Peyton Manning doesn't
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: really work that hard. That is like a point of pride,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I would say, for most of the people that I
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: either admire, been around, who are successful, share in common.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: And the one thing you saw with Tony Romo is like,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: there was never any pushback from his people. Because it
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, Tony Romo plays a lot of golf.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Guess what? I fucking love golf. I watch a golf
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: tournament every weekend for basically 80% of the weeks of
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: the year. Including during football season. I had on the
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: President's Cup two weeks ago. Love it. I enjoy playing.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: But guess what? During football season, I can't really do.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Play that much golf. I'm playing for the first time
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: on Saturday in like three months. It's just kind of life.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: It's called responsibilities. So if the knock is like he
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: likes playing too much golf, he's not focused on his
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: $ 17. 5 million job working one day a week. I've always
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: enjoyed Tony Romo, like the character, the personality. I enjoyed
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: him as a player. But that is something that's hard
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: to shake. There are some like, hey man, the guy,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: so-and-so's got a drinking problem or whatever, but it's never,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: he's never missed a day of work. He's always on time.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: You can just smell him a little in the morning,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: but it's like, hey man, we all got some issues.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I think that's one that you can't convince me that
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of people, especially in the business, don't respect
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: you as much. Because did he get fired for the DUI? No,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: he didn't get fired for the DUI. Do you think
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: if they loved him, and he got a DUI, guess what?
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: He wouldn't have missed a game. Absolutely nothing would have happened. Hell,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: CBS would have been like, do you need help getting
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: a lawyer? Instead, they were dying and looking for a
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: reason to get out. Because when he would call games, which,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: and I'll say this, calling a game is way more
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: difficult than what I do. Because, especially if you're calling
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: a team, like it's one thing to call the Chiefs
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: if you call 80% of their games. By about the
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: third game, you're going to have a damn good idea.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: The new players on the team, their rotations, like you're
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: going to know them, Pat. But what about the one
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: game when the Chiefs, like yesterday, play the Raiders? A
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: team that you probably have never done. It's going to
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: take some legwork to get to know their 2D, to
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: get to know some of the stories of some of
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: the younger guys that you don't have a feel for.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Takes a lot of time to watch all their games,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: know their strengths and weaknesses, to understand what they bring
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: to the table. Like the one thing you'd say about
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady so far, it's like, doesn't feel like he
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: doesn't know what's going on football-wise. Honestly, if anything was
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: to knock, it's like, Tom, just be a little looser.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Say piss missile a little more. Swear every once in
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: a while when you get excited. Like that's relatable. But
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: no one goes, yeah, I don't think Tom Brady knows
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: who's playing right guard. We're almost like 75%? That one's tough. And,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: you know, clearly, I would imagine they paid him, if
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: not the total amount he was owed, maybe cut it
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: in half and gave it all to him up front. However,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: the financial deal got done. I do think the stink
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: of the narratives to me are true. Right. To me,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: it's like I remember someone saying like, yeah. you know, narratives,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: they can grow. It's like, well, how often do narratives grow?
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: It's like, the narrative that Jalen hurts is what? Not
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: that great. I mean, the narrative that the 49ers, the substation,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know, everyone always gets hurt. There are things
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: like tend to have a lot of truth to them,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: especially in what we talk about here. And this thing
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: just started growing and growing. And then every time you
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: look on social media, he's playing in a golf tournament.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: It's like, Tony, Just fucking take a deep breath. Enjoy
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: your country club six months a year and during football season,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: maybe play on like a Tuesday or whatever. But like,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: do you not like doing this? Are you just doing
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: it because they paid you so much money? And there
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: might have been some truth to that. Well, then just quit.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: You know, then just be like, yeah, I don't want
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: to do this anymore. I don't need the money because
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: clearly he was unfazed by how much they were paying him.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: It's a good life lesson. Just, you know, now he
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: was already rich before he ever got into TV, having
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: been the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. But, Man, I just,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: you know, listen, JJ's fine. He's, you know, I see
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: some clips, him and Nance. Nance can be a little stiff.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like, Jim, you need to lighten up
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: a little too. But Jim's in his mid-60s. Like, he's
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: definitely not lighting it up now. Like, he's not Mr.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Jokester up there. It's not really his style. So it's
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: probably going to take some getting used to for JJ Watt,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: who is definitely not a nobody. I would say as
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: an individual, he's much more accomplished as a talent and
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: as a player than Tony Romo as an individual player. Obviously,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Romo was a really good player. J.J. Watts is the
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of Famer. But there is some star
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: power to being the Dallas Cowboys quarterback. I do believe
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: in the world I'm in, star power matters a little less.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Remember Spotify? They gave hundreds of millions of dollars to
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: a bunch of famous people to start podcasts, and then
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: it turns out no one listened. But television is still
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: very driven by it. It's like, oh, Russell Wilson, super famous, boom. Why?
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Good looking, looks like a movie star, played quarterback, put
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: him on. And in fairness, I'm not trying to shit
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: on Russell Wilson. I haven't watched one second of any
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: of the pregame coverage because I really just don't anymore.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: But if I had to guess, he's probably not saying
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: the most provocative things here. Is he really taking some
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: hard stances on some of his opinions? That's never been
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: his thing. But super famous, put him in there. The
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: TV's done it forever. Joe Montana, Emmitt Smith, you name it.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Just put a famous guy in the booth or on
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: a pre- or post-game show, boom, you're cooking with gas.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I just think have him be entertaining.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: It's like Tomlin's going to be good. He's not going
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: to be good just because he's Mike Tomlin, former coach
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: of the Pittsburgh Steelers. It's because he'll just say some stuff. Honestly,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: the best thing he said is like, talk some shit
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: about the Browns. And then they went on to rattle
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: a bunch of wins. And then Todd Bunken's coming back
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: and being like, screw this guy, which to me is enjoyable. Like,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch Tom last night, but like. one thing
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I would like out of Mike Tomlin is like, say
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: what you really feel. Because I know you got takes.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I know you got thoughts. I know there are guys
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: in this league that you think are fucking clowns. And
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I know there are guys you really respect. So just
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: say your true opinions. But it's difficult when guys like
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: him want to go back. It's like, I don't want
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: to ruffle some feathers. I got to see this guy
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: eventually at an owner's meeting or got to play against them. Or,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: you know, same with players. Like, there are a ton
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: of players that coaches can't stand for whatever reason. Just
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: like there are a ton of players that coaches love. Like,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, the Kansas City Chiefs internally love
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Max Crosby. If you had to like pull everyone with
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs coaching staff, like who's their favorite player in
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: the league, he would be near the top. Right. And
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: if you had to get the list of every head coach,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: their least favorite player in the league, guy, they don't
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: respect guy. They think it's overhyped. You, you, You post
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: that article with everyone putting their names on it. Guess what?
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: You're going to get some clicks. But that'll never happen
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: because they'll never do that. So it's easy for them
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: to be like, you know what? Who I really respect?
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: CeeDee Lamb. What a player. Well, coach, who on their
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: defense do you think is awful that shouldn't be starting,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: that should be on the practice squad? That's the take
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I want to hear. But you never really get it.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: And I think it's difficult for a lot of these
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: guys to say what they really believe. And Tony just
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: got into this weird spot where it's like, what's even
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: going on? Like, does he even know what he's saying?
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: He doesn't want to ruffle any feathers. He's like, Jim.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: And they thought he was lazy and they fired him.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: You know what else I was thinking that experience in
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: the NFL really matters. And, you know, you see Clint Kubiak,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: who has gone to the Raiders recently. and within four
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: games have made them a relevant franchise. And you just
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: watch it, they pass the eye test. They're just a well-coached,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: real NFL team. Now, do they end up making the playoffs?
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: What happens the rest of the season? I have no clue.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: I would probably bet against it, like can Cousins last?
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: But there is no disputing that through four games... they
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: have been one of the, whoa, didn't see that one coming.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Especially midway through that game when they took the lead
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: 19 to 17. You're like, are they really going to
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs? And in fairness, I think most human beings,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: and I would imagine even a lot of Raider fans, yeah,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: they're probably not going to win this game. But even
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: if they don't, it's already a win. And I started
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: thinking about like, The experience, especially some of these younger coaches,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I think there's a bitterness when younger people, in general,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about football, it's definitely diminished in
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: football because so many younger guys between 35 and 45
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: now get coordinator jobs and become head coaches. I see
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: it all around the league. Davis Webb's 31, Sean Manning's 34,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Christian Parker with the Cowboys, 34. It's a young man's game.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: You know, but 10, 15, 20 years ago, and I
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: was guilty of this. I'm like, Sean McVay's got no chance.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: 30-year-old head coach? No way. Well, he's gone on to
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: have one of the great 10-year runs you'll ever see.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Resurrected a dogshit, dead franchise. And as I've gotten older,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: you kind of see it from a different point of view. Like,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: I think it's natural for older people to be bitter
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: that younger people are passing him. And a lot of times, like,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: you're getting passed for a reason. Sometimes you might be
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: getting screwed. But a lot of times, like, well, should
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: you look in the mirror a little bit? But like
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak, who's 39 years old, has a pretty extensive resume.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: I bet he just worked for his dad. Well, he
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: did for a couple years. But he also worked for
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: North Turner, Mike Zimmer, Nate Hackett, Kyle Shanahan, Dennis Allen,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: and Mike McDonald. That also doesn't count as two years
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: after playing at Colorado State, being a GA at Texas
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: A & M, which I'm pretty sure Kevin Sumlin was
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: the head coach then. So if you think about it,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: if you're Clint Kubiak, who grew up around football with
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: his father being a coordinator and then a head coach,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: obviously played, but has worked for the best of the
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: best and the worst of the worst. So in his experience,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: he's kind of seen it all. And when you think
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: about Sean Mannion and Davis Webb, these two hot shots
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: this summer, it's like Sean Mannion, former quarterback, worked for
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, Davis Webb, Texas Tech and Cal,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: longtime NFL backup, both of them. These guys are shooting stars.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: It's like one started coaching in 2023, the other started
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: coaching in 2024. They have only worked for one organization.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Sean Manning left LeFleur after two years to go to
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: the Eagles. Obviously, Davis Webb has only worked for Sean
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Payton and got elevated to the offensive coordinator. And I
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: was thinking about like Clint Kubiak, No one would have
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: blamed him if he only had worked for his dad
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: in Shanahan. He just stayed in the little bubble. A
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: lot like the Belichick guys. All Josh McDaniels and... and
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: that whole crew of guys forever, they just worked under Bill.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: And then they would just become a head coach. And
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: it'd be like, oh my God, this is a disaster.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Because the only thing they knew was Belichick. And let's
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: face it, outside of the walls in New England, no
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: one really operated like that. Why? Because the only two
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: people that could operate like that were Bill and Tom.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Because Bill could ride Tom as he's like the greatest
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: player in the league, one of the most famous players
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: in league history, winning MVPs and winning Super Bowls, treating
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: him like a practice squad. So then they would go
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: to these other places and try to do the same,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: and it would blow up in their face. I mean,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: think about Josh McDaniels. He's the only coach in NFL
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: history to get two separate jobs and not make it
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: to finish year two in either. It's never happened before,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: and I promise you, it'll never happen again. Patricia was
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: an absolute laughingstock with the Lions. Flores, like the thing
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: in Miami, did not go well. But I'll give Brian
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Flores credit, Matt Patricia credit. Both those two guys, they
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: just left the nest. They started going other places. Now
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Matt Patricia's just at Ohio State doing a good job
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: for Ryan Day. You saw Flores just go with Tomlin,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: then go with Kevin O'Connell, get out of the nest
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: and become their own man. And Clint Kubiak, like, worked
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: for Nate Hackett. It's one of the most embarrassing seasons.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: There's a short list of them. You know, Jim Tomsula
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: would be high. Freddie Kitchens would be high. Nate Hackett
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: would be high. You experience, like, everyone can take notes
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: and learn things when you're working for Steve Jobs and
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Apple is doubling every year. Well, what's it like when
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: you're at the company that goes bankrupt in six months
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: and everything's a disaster and you are just shit out
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: of luck? That's the equivalent of working for Nate Hackett.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: That was the equivalent of him working for Dennis Allen.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: They all got fired. Why? Because the entire team got hurt.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: The team sucked. Dennis Allen was fired in the middle
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: of the season. It was a disaster. And I don't
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: know exactly how it played out, if they knew each
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: other previously. But then getting with Mike McDonald changed his life.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: But he also gets the experience to see Mike McDonald,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: coach against him, literally every day in practice, spend every
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: day talking with him in the meeting rooms and the
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: conference rooms, and just being around that environment with John
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Schneider and seeing something that he never would have got
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: to see. Meanwhile, you got Sean Mannion, you got Sirianni
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: taking shrapnel from every angle, everyone in the league, every
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: fan thinks he's the village idiot. Everyone thinks this Eagle
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: thing is about to implode with all the injuries, with
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: how bad Jalen's. It's like, hey, Sean, I can't call plays.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: You need to help us get out of this. It's like, well,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I just two years ago, I was like an offensive
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: assistant for Matt LaFleur. These guys both started at the
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: bottom floor like three years ago. But and I got
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: no problem with it. They jump fast because they're former players.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: which in fairness, it's not like they were just selling
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: insurance for all the years they were playing. They were
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: in a building at the quarterback room, in the quarterback
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: room with the coordinator learning about game plans. But once
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: you become the coordinator, different from being the player, guess
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: what you have to do? You have to manage your staff.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: You got an O-line coach. You got a tight end coach.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: You got a running back coach. You got a wide
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: receiver coach. They all got assistant coaches. I looked the
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: other day, I'm watching the USC game. I'm like, God,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of people on Washington sideline. I Googled
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: it while I just went to their website. I counted.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: The University of Washington has, and they're not alone, all
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: these teams are like this, has 25 coaches. 25 coaches.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Every position has like, some of them have multiple assistants
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: for the position coach. It's like, this is a little overkill.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: This can't be this complicated. We're running a five-yard out route.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: We need 17 people to coach this play? This can't
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: be the case. And obviously, not all of them are
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: on the field coaches. Some of them are quality control,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: breaking down film. But it's like, this feels a little like,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: it feels like we've jumped the shark. And I think
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: some of these guys start at the bottom. And then
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: because they're former players, they jump immediately. And all of
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: a sudden, they're in the deep end with, you know,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: 10-foot waves, great white sharks, lightning, freezing cold water. It's like,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: figure it out, bro. Well, it's like, I don't have
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: that much. Oh, yeah, the owner, the GM, and the
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: head coach also are mad at you right now. Oh,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: and you have three players who think you're screwing them.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Handle it all. It's like, well, I was just playing
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: like four years ago. I don't know. Tuesdays, I just
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: got to go hang out with my girlfriend, my wife.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: We usually went to the movies on Monday night. No,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: now you work 90, 100-hour weeks, which, again, they know
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: what they're signing up for, having been the low-em guy
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: in the totem pole the hours to come along with it.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: But the pressure in that spot, and Sean, I guess,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: technically can hold Davis Webb's hand, right, during the week.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: But then during the game, his big thing is like, hey,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: I used to have coaches that got on my shit.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: I'm leaving them alone. I'm letting him figure it out.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: And that's, listen, I see it with the young child.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: It's like, you know, how do you balance just every time, no, Jack, no, Jack,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: and just maybe let him, pick himself up here in
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: fall and maybe learn. It's hard. There's not a perfect answer, right?
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: You got to let them figure it out on their own.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: It's obviously different with a nine-month-old and a 34-year-old offensive coordinator.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: But I think the experience, like why is Kubiak having
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: success with a franchise that had been putrid, that had
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: been an embarrassment, not just in the NFL, but I
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: would say over the course of the last 20, 25 years,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: the Raiders were the butt of everyone's jokes. Because he's
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: not your typical 39-year-old. He'd seen a ton on his own. Obviously,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: what he grew up around, and then he even worked
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: for his dad, but he also worked for a large
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: variety of people. Mike Zimmer to Nate Hackett, I would
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: put those guys on the opposite end of the spectrum
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: in terms of personalities. You know, Mike McDonald to Dennis
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Allen to Norv Turner. You just learn a lot. We're all,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Sean Mannion is looking at Sirianni. Well, this is what
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: LaFleur used to do. I'm reading Ty Dunn's article on
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: his sub stack. And one thing he was talking about was, well,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: some players say that when LaFleur's around the quarterbacks, he's
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: very comfortable. But when he talks with the O-linemen, it
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: gets a little weird. It's like, well, yeah, it shows
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: when I watch his team, which to me is a
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: pretty big red flag. Why? Because offensive linemen, it's a
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: different language. It's like you're kind of in the mud.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: They don't mind getting screamed at. They don't mind getting
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: yelled at. They don't mind. Their interactions are just a
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: little different. It's kind of grimy. It's not pretty boy football.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: That's what the quarterback room is. Look at Matt LaFleur.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: He's a pretty boy. Looks good. Beard perfectly, eyebrows perfectly manicured,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: hair always great. Fucking offensive linemen are dirty as hell.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Probably smells like one big fart when you go into
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: every position room. If you went into every offensive line
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: room in the NFL and major power four, some of
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: those would, the smell, you would turn right around. Maria
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: would last five minutes in, I would say, 80% of them.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: You'd have spitters everywhere. You'd have all sorts of shit.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: And I just think that experience, some of these guys
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: are just completely over their head. And it's not because
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: they don't have the talent in them. One day they
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: won't be stars. It's because sometimes when you throw someone
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: in the deep end and they haven't learned to swim,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: even if in five, ten years they become the next
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Michael Phelps, at the time, they're going to drown. And
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Kubiak's not drowning because of the length of experience he
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: has with when he got the job at 38, 39
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: years old, kind of unique. He didn't just learn under
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: one guy. And then when he's presented with problems, when
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: he's presented with adversity, he's like, Oh, I've seen that.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: This is how this guy handled it. And I took
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: a mental note. Like I wouldn't have done that. I
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: would have done this because that's part of it. When
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: you work for people, even people that are highly successful,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: there are things that are going to happen that you
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: say in the back of your mind, I get why
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: he's doing that, but I would probably do it this way.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: And then one day, if you're ever in that position,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: you try to do it the way you wanted to
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: do it. And maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. And
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: that's the other thing with experience. It's like, well, I
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: remember that I thought that when this guy did this,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: I was going to do that. And then I tried that,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: it didn't work, and I realized why he was right,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: so now I actually do what he ended up doing.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: These guys are just trying to get a first down.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: With flawed quarterbacks as well. Like, I would say Bo
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Nix and Jalen Hurts aren't on the scale of like, yeah,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: easy to work with. I'm not talking about personally, I'm
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: talking about their play. You have this many plays that
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: they just operate with ease. Easy execution. Godspeed, boys. Let's
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: do a couple of mailbag questions. It's funny. We're a
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: little dad diaries. We've been feeding the little man. We
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: were having a lot of trouble feeding him. And we
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: started hearing from a couple of people like that's, you
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: can't get him to eat at eight, nine months old.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, he just won't eat. So we were
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: at the allergist because he's going to start, you know,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: he got the peanut allergy. They have this thing. It's
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: called like OIT where they basically introduce peanuts to you
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: at a young age and then ideally you just overcome
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: the allergy, you know, within a couple of years, I,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: I might've told this story, but I was at the,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: I was at a gym when I was doing Fox
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: with Colin down in LA and I was using the
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: gym and this guy was in there and he had
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: a EpiPen on the floor. And honestly, before Jack, I
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: wouldn't even have known what an EpiPen was. So I
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: immediately go, hey, you got a peanut allergy. And he goes, yeah.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: And so we just we started talking. He ended up
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: he liked football and we started BSing. And I told
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: him what we were doing for Jack. He's like, I
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: wish someone that had been around. He was probably my age.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: It's save your life because he was telling me the
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: story that he was in like somewhere internationally and he
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: ate a power bar that he didn't realize had peanuts.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: He almost died. And obviously you can get yourself in
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: some precarious situations, but we just couldn't get Jack to eat.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: So we're at the allergist and Maria brought it up.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: We're like having a lot of trouble getting him to eat.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: And he was like, maybe he's got this thing that
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: he's alert, his throat, he gets allergic to food. And
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: we're like, oh my God, this is, this is a,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: what is going on? How many things can this kid
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: be allergic to? He's all, but also like, do you
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: guys usually try to feed him when he's got an
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: empty stomach? I was like, well, we just, there hasn't
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: been a rhyme or reason, you know, just feed him
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: a bottle, then try to feed him some food. And
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: he's like, he looked at me and her and he's like,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: would you eat a meal after having a milkshake? I'm
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: thinking to myself like, well, I mean, a couple gummies maybe,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: but yeah, sober, probably not. And he's like, feed him
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: the food first. And then if he eats it or
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: doesn't eat it, feed him the bottle. So we've been
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: taking that tactic. Now he's been eating and he's got
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: this little chair where he eats his food. He's got
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: like a little bib. Well, today she was, you know,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Monday morning. I was like, you know what? He's asleep.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: like 8.30 in the morning. I'm like, you go to
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: the gym. I'll man the house. When he wakes up,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: I'll try to feed him, and then I'll handle it.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: So he wakes up. It's just me and him. I'm like, hey, Jack,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: let's go to the little chair. Let's eat one of
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: these little packets. So typically, it takes a couple minutes
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: to get him to take some bites, but once he
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: starts taking bites, he'll just start eating like a champ.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: And sometimes he wants to hold the little fruit packet
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: that has the little puree In his hands. And sometimes
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: he'll kind of squirt it out. But it's... You know,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: you take it away and then you start feeding him. Well,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: I gave it to him. And right away, he dips
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: it down and squirts it. And the entire thing misses
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: the bib and goes all over the place. I went, well,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: at least he doesn't have a throat allergy. He'll eat.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: But it was a disaster. And when he gets going, man,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: a little fucker can eat. We call him like a
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: little drunk dwarf. Guy's a nut job. In a good way. Crazy. Let's...
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: answer some questions here this is from Donnie is there
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: anywhere Minnesota looks outside the organization for a quarterback during
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: the season via trade Carson has Carson has and can
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: win games under Kevin but Kyler is really struggling from
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: my perspective watching I would say it's a quarterback play
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: thing that's holding the Vikings back I just don't think
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: you have many options Who are you trading for? Would
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: the Dolphins trade Malik Willis for a second-round pick? My
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: question is, where are your options? Could you offer three
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: first-rounders for Herbert if the team is just imploding and
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: maybe they go winless and draft a quarterback? You would
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: do that if you were Minnesota. But I just don't
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: really see your options here. And I do think we're
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: going to learn, like, is this sustainable? Can Flores just
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: carry the franchise while they go three and out, while
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: they punt, punt, punt, punt, punt? And it's one thing
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: when you're playing the Bears in a driving rainstorm, when
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: you're playing the, who'd they play? They play, oh, Tampa Bay,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: who was just in shambles. Obviously, Miami was trying to lose.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: When they do play a better offense, even if that
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: team is a flawed defense, like, The Detroit Lions in Detroit. Well,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: if they can just score a couple touchdowns, what do
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: you do? I just don't think you have really any options.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: I think you just try to play like this. And
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: if you were to make the playoffs, if you were
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: to win the division doing what you're doing, it would
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: be the most incredible coaching job we'll ever see. But
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: be like, well, it's all Flores. Kevin, what are you
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: doing here? I think it also speaks to how bad
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: they think J.J. McCarthy sucks. I mean, they named Kyler
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: the starting quarterback like a week into August. They have
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: to think J.J. McCarthy is such a scrub. You don't
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: have to say who, but are there just media members
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: you think are straight clowns? Pat McAfee just announced that
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: he's donating a million dollars to the University of Iowa's
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Children's Hospital, and I feel like we are being told
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: he is a tool and a big meathead. Would love
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: your thoughts. I would say 10 years ago, I'd even
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: say five years ago, I just had more free time,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: spend a lot of it online, and you just realize
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: you're just getting all these people's opinions 24-7 online. And
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: you could just hate people that you didn't know. I
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: would say I care way less now. I just don't
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: pay attention. My thing is I just don't watch you
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: if I don't like your content. And part of it
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: is just the world we live in. I can just
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: pick and choose what I want to consume. I think
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: when it comes to McAfee, Stephen A. Smith is someone
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: people talk a lot of shit about. The Barstool guys.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: The majority of people in media... especially the older versions,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: came up in newspapers. Well, newspapers are just dead. So
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: those guys have either had to transition, and some of
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: them had success, or just kind of keep their head
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: above water, but they're not doing that great. So when
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: they see these guys make millions of dollars, a lot
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: of it is just bitterness, jealousy, envy, and I just
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: think there's a lot of bitterness involved. Because do you
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: know who usually you don't see complaining about the other
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: people doing well? The people also doing well. It doesn't
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: mean you can't be like, Pat, you got to take
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: off your shirt every time that you're going to announce
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: who's going to win the game at nine o'clock in
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: the morning on game day. But also like everyone's like
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: $ 60 million. Well, yeah, the guy runs a company and
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: clearly gets every guest that matters. So the value he
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: brings clearly is there's something there. But his company, if
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: you want to sign a multi-year deal, you're talking nine figures.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: If you wanted to sign, let's just say, pardon my
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: take to a multi-year deal, in terms of own their business,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: a pardon my take, you're talking over $ 100 million. Stephen A.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Smith signs a $ 100 million contract. So you have these
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: old school, relic people that are struggling in media, and
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: it could be young people as well. They just get really,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: really bitter about And I think that's, I'm not saying
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: I haven't been that person. You know, there's probably, you know,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: posts or thoughts I've had when I was younger or
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: even not that long ago. But as you get older, one,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: I just don't have the energy. I'm just so focused
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: on what I'm doing to like really even care. You know,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people in the media too,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: they spend a lot like, what do they really do
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: all day? I mean, seriously, I would say the average person,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: especially sports media, spends exponentially more time online than most
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: of their peers in other industries that are full-time workers wherever.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: And when I say online, I'm talking on social media. Obviously,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: most of us in some form or fashion spend time online.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: But there's just like an anger. And you get older,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: you have a kid, you're just like, I just think
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: that's a bad look. I don't want to teach him
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: to be like that. So I think it's a normal
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: human reaction if someone's doing better than you to be like, ah,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: he sucks, fucking loser. He must be doing something right.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: You don't have to like everything everyone does. You don't
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: have to like every player, but if the guy goes
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: to five straight Pro Bowls, it's like, well, he's probably
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: got some positive attributes he's bringing to the table. I
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: don't know, I just... I think the best part about
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: having a child is you just spend so much less
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: time online and just living in that world. Because I
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: think you just go out to the real world. It
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: feels like the disconnect has never been greater. And the
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: gap grows and grows, I feel like, by the year
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: of what I experience in society. If you just go
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: to the store, if you're just at the gym, if
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: you just interact with other human beings that you don't know,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: And then what you see online. That's just a general statement. But,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, my wife's favorite segment on Saturday mornings is
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: when they do the kick. She even goes, weren't they
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: giving like 50 grand three years ago? And now they're
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: like million dollar kicks. I'm like, yeah, I don't know.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: Are they bankrolling this? I don't know where the money's
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: coming from. But the kick, the numbers with the kicks,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: I remember before it was like $ 75, 000. Now everywhere they go,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: it's like $ 1. 2 million. Mailbag, can you explain Chip Kelly
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: to me? He pulled the ultimate scam job for the
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: Raiders and got fired after one year. Now he goes
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: back to work. to college at Northwestern and suddenly looks
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: like he's a good coach again. They just put up
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: 34 points on Penn State and ran for 400 yards.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: Is the gap that big between scheming offense in college
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: and the NFL really that drastic? Or was the Raiders
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: situation just terrible? Because it's hard for me to understand
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: how someone could look completely washed in the NFL and
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: then less than a year later look like an offensive genius. Well,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: I think there were a lot of dynamics there. I
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: don't know if he expected to have Pete Carroll's son
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: be his offensive line coach. I think there were clearly...
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: some issues when it came to the guys working on
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: the staff. Uh, from what I was told, Pete Carroll,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: or I mean, I, I talked to someone that, that
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: knows one of them really well. And he's like, when
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: that hire happened, I almost fell out of my chair.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: Like Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly are going to work together.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: It never made any sense. And Brennan Carroll, the Pete's son,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: who was coaching offensive line, I've heard he's a nice guy.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, awful coach. I mean, horrendous coach. So I
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: do think that Chip pretty early on kind of mailed
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: it in. I mean, I've heard some stories that were like,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: and this gets back to the Tony Romo thing, like
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: have a little professional pride. You know, especially you're making
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: $ 6 million a year to be the coordinator, to be
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: a coordinator. You're making, he was making more being the
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: coordinator than he was making at UCLA a couple of
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: years previously being the head coach. And, like, there's a
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: lack of respect. Like, and again, you get so rich,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: you get such a big ego. You're like, I'm not
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: even messing with this. I don't even want to do this.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: And that's what it kind of feels like when it
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: came to Chip with the Raiders situation. But it all
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: worked out. You know, you guys kind of fell apart.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: And now you got Fernando Mendoza, Kirk Cousins, Clint Kubiak,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: and things are on the up and up. Long time listener.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: I got to ask, why all the hate on the Chargers?
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: I think people are forgetting the Texans and the Bucs
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: have the same record with similar expectations. Please enlighten me.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: I would say targeting the Texans and the Bucs. Got
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: to text mid-read. I think it has more to do
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: with Harbaugh. Has more to do with Justin Herbert is
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: viewed better than Baker Mayfield. Better than Obviously, C.J. Stroud.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: I just think Jim Harbaugh is held in higher regard
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: than D'Amico and Todd Bowles. I mean, it's just those
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: two guys. Their head coach and their quarterback are viewed,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: in theory, coming into the season really highly. Jim Harbaugh's
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: had a ton of success. I would say Justin Herbert's
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: become one of the most polarizing guys in the league. And... Yeah,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: they can be a punching bag when things kind of
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: fall apart. So I think there are a lot of
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: variables there, but I think Harbaugh and Herbert are the
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: number one reason. Like, D'Amico's just not a polarizing figure.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: You know, like Todd Bowles barely talks. Who do you
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: think is the coach of the year? I think Ben Johnson,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Liam Cohen, Clint Kubiak are my frontrunners so far. Kevin
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: O'Connell as well for having the Vikings 4-0, but Flores
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: is doing a lot of the heavy lifting. Well, Ben
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: Johnson and Liam Cohen both won their division last year.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson won a playoff game. So to me, if
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: the Raiders win 10 games, they drafted number one overall.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: Ahead of the Jets, ahead of the Browns, ahead of the,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: who else drafted I? The Giants. I mean, there were
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: some god-awful teams last year, and the Raiders were the
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: worst overall. So to me, coach of the year, like
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson and Liam Cohen were awesome last year. They're
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: just growing on what they did. Clint Kubiak took over
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: the Raiders. And to me, if he gets them to 9-8,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: I'd be hard-pressed to give it to anybody else. I
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: don't care what else happens. Because like you said, Kevin O'Connell,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: it's like, well, they don't score any touchdowns. He's the
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: offensive play caller. So could you just give it to Flores?
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: But he would just get the assistant coach of the year.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: Not sure if you saw the floor presser after the
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Buccaneers game. Guy looked miserable after a win. You think
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: he's feeling the outside pressure as they continue to disappoint
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: every game. I didn't watch the full press conference, but
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: I did see multiple like 30, 45 second clips. I
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: think he knows they suck. So when you have issues
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: with your offensive line, it's almost like having a bad
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: bullpen in baseball. Like, what are you going to do
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: to fix it? Like, there's no, there's just, you can't
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: trade for four bullpen arms. Your bullpen's your bullpen. No
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: one can get anyone out. So you just, your team's
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: going to suck. Or your baseball team can't hit. It's like, well,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: we're screwed. You know, you look at, you just, like,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: there are no options. Right? And Micah Parsons is coming back.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: No time soon, it looks like. And let's face it,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: you put Micah Parsons on this team, is it really
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: changing that much? He can't block anybody, right, in terms
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: of like, it's not like you can put him in
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: offensive tackle. They barely have leads. I think sometimes the
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: reality is when you watch some of this, I think
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: him and Sirianni both look like this is really bad.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: And I don't think we have many pitches in our
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: back pocket to change this. So I think when you
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: watch both those guys, they both look like they're seeing
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: ghosts because what are they going to do? There's no fix.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: And I think it's less about hearing. Listen, I'm not
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: saying he doesn't listen or read or pay attention or
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: get forwarded what's being said about him. But my guess
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: is that he's no dummy. I mean, he's coached really
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: good teams. I mean, last year at one point in
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: time before their injuries, they were clearly a team that
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: could have won the Super Bowl. And now he has
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: a team that could basically lose every single week. They
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: could lose to anybody. I mean, they barely beat. I mean,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: that was a tough watch. I'd be lying if I
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: had it on one of the small TV and the
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: left-hand box. That was terrible football. And I think part
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: of it is that they can't run the ball. And
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: there's no fix. When you're offensive lines and shambles, there's
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: no fix in the middle of the season. They bring
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: in some older veterans. It's like, those guys are on
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: the street for a reason. Think how many teams in
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: the NFL have offensive line issues, and none of them call.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: Do they bring in Zeitler and Mekhi Becton, I think? Yeah,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: it sucks. But what if they just end up losing
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: a bunch of games? Is he going to get fired?
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a lock. I could see him
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: getting one more year. Like just, hey, give you an
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: offseason to really fix the problem. But the one thing
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: with LeFleur is he's pretty tightly wound. Sirianni's like this too.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: So once you start losing, which I respect about LeFleur,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: he can't really hide his emotions. Like Sirianni kind of
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: changes when he goes from the sideline to the press conference.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Like he's a little more under control. LaFleur feels the
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: same guy in every environment, like in interviews, when I
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: see him on the sideline, like, which I respect. He
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: just kind of is what he is, right? He's, he's
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: pretty authentic to his, to his, you know, the person
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: and his true self. He's not really a politician up
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: on the, on the dais, which I think a lot
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: of coaches can turn into, or they try to like
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: beat around the bush to avoid it. But yeah, I
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: don't know, man. I, I, I think the Packers are
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: in major trouble.