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What Happened To Brandon Swanson · The conspiracy

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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you hear a story so mysterious, so bizarre, so shocking,
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  Speaker 1: the story consumes you. The facts of the case become
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  Speaker 1: an obsession of yours, and you dive deep into the
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  Speaker 1: dark waters trying to dig up any and all information
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  Speaker 1: that you can possibly find. For me, one of those
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  Speaker 1: cases is that of the disappearance of Brandon's Swanson, which remains,
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  Speaker 1: in my mind, one of the most mysterious and disturbing
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  Speaker 1: stories in the history of the United States of America.
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  Speaker 1: Brandon was your regular all American nineteen year old kid
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  Speaker 1: from Minnesota, but one day in May of two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and eight, he vanished into thin air, and to this day,
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  Speaker 1: not a trace of him, his body, or his presence
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  Speaker 1: has ever been found. Some people believe Brandon was murdered,
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  Speaker 1: others believe he was kidnapped. Some believe he died on accident,
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  Speaker 1: fell into a well, or was run over by farm equipment,
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  Speaker 1: and others believe that he may have slipped into another
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  Speaker 1: dimension or could have possibly been abducted by aliens. On
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  Speaker 1: today's episode, we're going to be investigating the story of
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  Speaker 1: Brandon's disappearance, and through doing this episode and other episodes
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  Speaker 1: like this, we aim to raise awareness about these cases
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  Speaker 1: and to keep people talking about them, because knowledge is power.
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  Speaker 1: You may look at these investigations and say that they
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  Speaker 1: don't matter, that nothing counts, that we're not investigators, but
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  Speaker 1: we're getting people to think about these stories, to bring
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  Speaker 1: them up, to talk about them with their own families
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  Speaker 1: in the hope that somebody knows something, and in some
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  Speaker 1: of these cases, to keep pressure on local authorities to
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  Speaker 1: continue the investigations, to not abandon hope. We want to
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  Speaker 1: show people out there, whether they're armchair detectives or victims
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  Speaker 1: family members, that some people out here in the general
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  Speaker 1: public still care about these cases, and that we also
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  Speaker 1: demand that answers one day be found. Welcome to the
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  Speaker 1: Conspiracy Files. Brandon Swanson was your typical Minnesotan kid, a
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  Speaker 1: young man full of energy, passion, and excitement for the future.
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  Speaker 1: A native of Marshall, Minnesota, situated in Lyon County in
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  Speaker 1: southwestern Minnesota, Brandon successfully completed his secondary education at Marshall
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  Speaker 1: High School in two thousand and seven. Following graduation, he
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  Speaker 1: opted to pursue studies in wind energy technology at the
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota West Community and Technical College campus in Canby, dedicating
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  Speaker 1: a year to this specialized field. Now Academic sessions at
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota West concluded for the year on May thirteenth, two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and eight, and in celebration, on the night of
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  Speaker 1: May thirteenth, two thousand and eight, Brandon commenced his planned
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  Speaker 1: celebrations at a small house party in Lynde, Minnesota, attended
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  Speaker 1: by several of his friends and school acquaintances. Having recently
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  Speaker 1: completed a year long vocational certification program in wind energy,
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  Speaker 1: Brandon was on the brink of graduation. That night. At
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  Speaker 1: the house in lynd he attended a modest social function,
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  Speaker 1: described by attendees as an informal assembly of close companions.
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  Speaker 1: While he did indeed drink at this party, and throughout
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  Speaker 1: the evening ingested an under determined amount of alcohol, one
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  Speaker 1: friend of Brandon's later on characterized the atmosphere of the
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  Speaker 1: party as subdued and noted that Brandon did not at
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  Speaker 1: any point appear to be heavily impaired. In other words, yes,
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  Speaker 1: Brandon had been drinking that night, but according to those
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  Speaker 1: who knew him and saw him that evening, Brandon was
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  Speaker 1: not incredibly drunk, at least not to the naked eye.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't staggering around, slurring his words, slurring his speech.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody was worried for him. He just seemed like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a normal guy at the party celebrating the end of
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  Speaker 1: the school year. Between approximately ten thirty and eleven PM,
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  Speaker 1: Brandon left that first gathering at the house in Lynd
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  Speaker 1: unaccompanied and headed over to another friend's home in the
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  Speaker 1: nearby town of Canby to bid farewell to a fellow student.
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  Speaker 1: Reports indicate that during his brief visit to this second
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  Speaker 1: social gathering, Brandon consumed an additional one shot of whiskey.
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  Speaker 1: His stay at the party was brief, and shortly after
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  Speaker 1: midnight he set off on his journey back to Marshall, Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: This was the very last time that anyone would ever
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  Speaker 1: see brand in Swanson. Now Highway sixty eight is a
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  Speaker 1: two lane thoroughfare that extends southeast from Canby to Marshall, Minnesota,
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  Speaker 1: and that was the most direct route to Brandon's intended
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  Speaker 1: destination that evening, a road that Brandon had navigated on
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  Speaker 1: numerous occasions in the past. However, evidence suggests that on
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  Speaker 1: that evening, Brandon deviated from his usual route and instead
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  Speaker 1: chose to drive down a network of rural gravel roads
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  Speaker 1: situated slightly northeast of the highway. It's believed that Brandon
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  Speaker 1: chose to take this alternate route home to avoid law
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  Speaker 1: enforcement officers, as he had been drinking that evening. It
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  Speaker 1: isn't that hard to believe why he would have chosen
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  Speaker 1: to take the back roads instead of the main road,
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  Speaker 1: the highway that evening, but this obviously meant that instead
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  Speaker 1: of driving down a well lit, paved highway, Brandon would
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  Speaker 1: now be driving slightly under the influence down a series
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  Speaker 1: of dark, twisting country roads. And adding to the difficulty
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  Speaker 1: of this route, the gravel roads in that area don't
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  Speaker 1: run parallel to the highway, rather they intersect it at
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  Speaker 1: oblique angles, necessitating multiple sequential turns in a staggered configuration,
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  Speaker 1: meaning that he would be making some quick turns in
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  Speaker 1: the dark instead of essentially traveling straight back home. So
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  Speaker 1: Brandon had two options. He could either have taken the
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  Speaker 1: highway that he knew like the back of his hand
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  Speaker 1: all the way home, which was essentially, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: straight shot. It was well lit, it was paved, but
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  Speaker 1: he would have possibly run into law enforcement. He was
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  Speaker 1: drinking that night, so so that's why everybody believes that
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  Speaker 1: he took the you know, basically unlit gravel back roads. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm from South Dakota and this story actually took place
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  Speaker 1: about an hour and twenty minutes away from my hometown,
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  Speaker 1: so I know what the gravel roads are like. Outside
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  Speaker 1: of these towns, and especially in small communities like you know,
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  Speaker 1: lind and Canby. They are really just dirt roads flanked
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  Speaker 1: by you know, cornfields or whatever crops are growing. It's
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  Speaker 1: like a gravel path. There are no lights, there are
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  Speaker 1: no signs. These are just like you know, kind of
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  Speaker 1: twisting and turning hills of gravel that you have to
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  Speaker 1: you know, pay attention to while you're driving. Ultimately, that night,
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  Speaker 1: Brandon arrived at a minimally maintained field road which extended
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  Speaker 1: westward for approximately one mile. This unpaved gravel road, flanked
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  Speaker 1: on each side by expansive agricultural fields, was ill suited
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  Speaker 1: for conventional vehicular travel, and this was where Brandon would
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  Speaker 1: unfortunately make some sort of a mistake. You see, while
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  Speaker 1: traveling down this road, at one point, Brandon attempted to
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  Speaker 1: transition southward back onto a gravel road, misjudged the approach,
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  Speaker 1: and inadvertently drove himself into a roadside ditch, and this
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  Speaker 1: was a horrible place for Brandon to get his car
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  Speaker 1: stuck at because the incline at this location was shallow
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  Speaker 1: yet abrupt enough to immobilize the vehicle's undercarriage, rendering it
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  Speaker 1: incapable of moving either forward or backward. He was stuck
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  Speaker 1: on the side of the road, unable to move the
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  Speaker 1: vehicle or himself. The incident where Brandon crashed his car
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  Speaker 1: into the ditch, according to records, occurred at approximately one
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  Speaker 1: fifteen am. Interestingly, the vehicle sustained no apparent damage and
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  Speaker 1: there was no evidence of injury within the interior. After
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  Speaker 1: getting his car stuck in the ditch, Brandon initially attempted
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  Speaker 1: to contact two or three friends on his phone. He
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  Speaker 1: was calling frantically trying to see who would pick up,
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  Speaker 1: but it was late at night, and when nobody answered
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  Speaker 1: his calls, he placed a phone call to his parents.
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  Speaker 1: The time at the beginning of that phone call was
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  Speaker 1: approximately one fifty four am. Talking over the phone to
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  Speaker 1: his mother and father, Brandon conveyed to them that he
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  Speaker 1: was stranded in a ditch somewhere between Marshall and Lynde
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  Speaker 1: and tried to provide them with his location so that
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  Speaker 1: they could come pick him up. Between one fifty four
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  Speaker 1: and two seventeen am, multiple calls were exchanged between Brandon
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  Speaker 1: and his parents as they attempted to locate him, but
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  Speaker 1: even though Brandon was providing them with clues to his location,
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  Speaker 1: they couldn't pinpoint exactly where he was at. And that's
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  Speaker 1: because at multiple points Brandon told them incorrect information about
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  Speaker 1: his whereabouts. In one instance, he told his parents that
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  Speaker 1: he at the time was positioned just off of Highway
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  Speaker 1: twenty five three. This was found to be incorrect, however,
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  Speaker 1: as he was actually located near Highway sixty eight. He
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  Speaker 1: seemed to be confused and in a way dazed at
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  Speaker 1: the moment, and despite their best efforts, even though Brandon
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  Speaker 1: was describing what he saw around him and where he
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  Speaker 1: believed that he was, his parents were unable to locate him.
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  Speaker 1: There's been a lot of discussion about what caused Brandon
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  Speaker 1: to be so confused about where he was that evening.
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  Speaker 1: One likely explanation is that a mix of five key
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  Speaker 1: factors contributed to his disorientation. The exhaustion from the lateness
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  Speaker 1: of the hour, at least some level of intoxication, especially
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  Speaker 1: since his blood alcohol level was still increasing from his
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  Speaker 1: last drink and can be be all right, guys. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry for the sudden jump cut and the change
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  Speaker 1: of shirt, but I finished this entire recording last evening,
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  Speaker 1: and when I went around to check on my camera,
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  Speaker 1: I realized that I had forgotten to format the memory card,
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  Speaker 1: which meant that it didn't record any of what I'm
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  Speaker 1: about to go through, which is like the major chunk
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  Speaker 1: of the script. So the day I'm supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: editing right now, but I'm redoing this whole thing. That's
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  Speaker 1: why my shirt has changed and everything. But anyways, let's
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  Speaker 1: just dig back in. So, immediately after receiving their first
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  Speaker 1: phone call from Brandon, his parents, Annette and Brian Swanson,
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  Speaker 1: hopped into their pickup truck and began heading towards where
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  Speaker 1: their son was telling them that he had crashed his vehicle,
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  Speaker 1: and they kept heading in his supposed direction, even though
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  Speaker 1: their calls to Brandon kept either dropping or being hung up.
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  Speaker 1: At the time, Brandon even told his parents that he
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  Speaker 1: was sitting by his car, flashing his headlights on and
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  Speaker 1: off in an attempt to try to help them find him,
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  Speaker 1: but it was to no avail. Anette and Bryant saw
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  Speaker 1: no sign of Brandon anywhere in the immediate area. Now
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  Speaker 1: I have to say too, I you know, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I grew up in South Dakota. I know these dirt roads.
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  Speaker 1: I know country roads like this. My grandmother before she
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  Speaker 1: passed away, she lived on a farm way out in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere in North Dakota. And I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: like forty five minutes outside of Fargo, purely down dirt
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  Speaker 1: roads like middle of nowhere, and a lot of these
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  Speaker 1: lands are pretty flat and they're pitch black at night.
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  Speaker 1: There are no lights, there are no towns. So if
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  Speaker 1: Annette and Brian were driving around looking for Brandon and
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  Speaker 1: he was flashing his brights on and off, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like if they were close to where he was at
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  Speaker 1: that time, or you know, if they would have been
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  Speaker 1: in the area, they would have seen the lights. Somebody
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  Speaker 1: would have seen the lights because it's so dark, it
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  Speaker 1: would have been like lightning flashing throughout the landscape. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't see the lights. Nobody saw the lights. And
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  Speaker 1: so at two seventeen am, from inside the pickup, Brandon's
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  Speaker 1: mother called him again, growing frustrated, with not being found.
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  Speaker 1: Brandon then told his parents that he was going to
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  Speaker 1: start walking towards some city lights that he saw, which
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  Speaker 1: he believed were coming from the nearby town of lynd And.
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  Speaker 1: So Brandon told his parents that he was going to
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  Speaker 1: start walking toward what he believed was lynd And. He
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  Speaker 1: asked his parents to meet him in the parking lot
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  Speaker 1: of the Lindwood Tavern, a local bar. Shortly afterwards, the
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  Speaker 1: call dropped again, and after being disconnected, Brandon's parents called
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  Speaker 1: him and began another phone conversation at approximately two twenty
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  Speaker 1: three am. During this call, Brandon and his father stayed
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  Speaker 1: on the phone for forty seven minutes. Over the phone,
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  Speaker 1: dictating what he was seeing. To his parents, Brandon described
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  Speaker 1: his walk, saying he was following a gravel road away
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  Speaker 1: from Marshall toward Lynde. At one point, he told them
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  Speaker 1: that he had left the road and started cutting across fields.
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  Speaker 1: This will be a faster route. He told his parents
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  Speaker 1: he was just taking a shortcut. Over the phone, he
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  Speaker 1: mentioned to them that he had come across two fences
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  Speaker 1: and that at one point he heard running water nearby. Then,
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  Speaker 1: at exactly three ten am, Brandon interrupted himself and suddenly
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  Speaker 1: yelled out, oh shit, and then the call went silent.
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  Speaker 1: His father later recalled hearing what sounded like Brandon's foot
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  Speaker 1: slipping right before the call cut off, but then afterwards nothing.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing that Brandon's parents heard on the other
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  Speaker 1: end of the line was silence before eventually they had
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  Speaker 1: to hang up and end the phone called themselves so
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  Speaker 1: they could call him back. In a frantic move, Brandon's
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  Speaker 1: parents attempted to call him over and over again, trying
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  Speaker 1: to re establish contact with their son. However, repeated attempts
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  Speaker 1: to call Brandon back were unsuccessful, and he never picked
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  Speaker 1: up the phone again. In fact, this would be the
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  Speaker 1: very last time that anyone heard from or saw Brandon
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  Speaker 1: ever again. His final words, oh shit remain an intriguing
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  Speaker 1: part of this mystery that no one has been able
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  Speaker 1: to fully explain to this very day. In the early
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  Speaker 1: hours of May fourteenth, the weather was mostly clear, with
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  Speaker 1: a light wind of six to nine miles per hour.
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  Speaker 1: The temperature was around forty six degrees fahrenheit and dropped
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  Speaker 1: at one point to thirty nine degrees fahrenheit. The moon
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  Speaker 1: was in its third quarter phase, positioned to the west
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  Speaker 1: of where Brandon likely was and was setting when the
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  Speaker 1: call ended. Even after the phone called disconnected, the search
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  Speaker 1: continued for Brandon's parents. In fact, Brandon's parents continued searching
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  Speaker 1: for him all night, but by six thirty a m.
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  Speaker 1: They had become more concerned and decided to call the
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  Speaker 1: Lyon County Sheriff's office to officially report him missing. But
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  Speaker 1: the local authorities weren't too interested in helping the Swanson
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  Speaker 1: family at that time. In fact, the Swansons were told
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  Speaker 1: at first that it was hardly unusual for young men
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  Speaker 1: Brandon's age to stay out all night after the last
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  Speaker 1: day of college classes. It was completely normal for them
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  Speaker 1: to disappear for the night. They claimed he had probably
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  Speaker 1: been drunk and had passed out somewhere, they'd find him
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  Speaker 1: soon enough. And additionally, when the Swansons pushed back on
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  Speaker 1: the authorities and their hesitancies to help search for Brandon
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  Speaker 1: and that Swanson specifically recalled that one of the officers
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  Speaker 1: told them that it was Brandon's quote right to be missing.
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  Speaker 1: But Brandon never awoke from a drunken stupor and called
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  Speaker 1: his parents. He never emerged from the darkness, hung over,
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  Speaker 1: and made his way back home, and the search for
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  Speaker 1: Brandon began soon afterwards. Based on information from Brandon's family
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  Speaker 1: and media sources, law enforcement issued an attempt to locate
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  Speaker 1: requests for both Brandon and his car. The Lyon County
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  Speaker 1: Sheriff's office also contacted Brandon's cell phone provider to get
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  Speaker 1: location data. However, because it was still early in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: the carrier's offices weren't open yet, so no immediate information
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  Speaker 1: was available. Once the phone company opened that day, they
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  Speaker 1: quickly determined that Brandon's phone had last connected to a
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  Speaker 1: tower just south of Minneota, Minnesota, and this immediately led
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  Speaker 1: authorities to shift their search to that area. At around
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  Speaker 1: twelve thirty pm, a Lyon County Sheriff's deputy he found
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  Speaker 1: Brandon's abandoned car in a ditch about one point five
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  Speaker 1: miles north of Minnesota Highway sixty eight. You're the border
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  Speaker 1: of Lyon and Lincoln Counties.
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  Speaker 2: Annette Swanson is joining us. She is the mother of
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  Speaker 2: Brandon Swanson, joining us from Minnesota. And you were on
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  Speaker 2: the phone with your son a large part of those
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  Speaker 2: early hours when you were trying to find him and
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  Speaker 2: he was trying to find you. He wasn't hurt at all. Right,
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  Speaker 2: I mean the car went into a ditch, but he
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  Speaker 2: seemed to be.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, correct, he said he was fine, but he was
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  Speaker 3: not injured. And you know, in fact, when we did
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  Speaker 3: find his vehicle, there was no damage to it. It
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  Speaker 3: was simply muddy from being on a garavel road, but
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  Speaker 3: no damage to the vehicle.
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  Speaker 2: What was it like the night to be going through
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  Speaker 2: this and so close to your son, but so far
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  Speaker 2: from your son?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you knows. As you know, as Brandon tried to
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  Speaker 3: explain to us where his location was, and he was
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  Speaker 3: extremely sure of himself. He felt confident in where he
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  Speaker 3: was at and that we were the ones that were
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  Speaker 3: confused about, you know, how to get to him. And
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  Speaker 3: as the conversation went on, it's the minutes ticked by,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it came to a point where as long
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  Speaker 3: as Brandon was on the phone, as long as he
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  Speaker 3: was talking, as long as we had contact, it was okay,
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  Speaker 3: we would be okay. With the minute that he that
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  Speaker 3: that call dropped, I just became sick. I knew it
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  Speaker 3: was wrong, I knew it was very very bad, and
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  Speaker 3: just could hardly fathom you know, what was happening at
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  Speaker 3: that point.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I can imagine I mean to take a breath
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  Speaker 2: now when the call just hung up like that with
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  Speaker 2: Brandon in dire distress. I mean, those were the words
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  Speaker 2: that he seemed to utter when he said, Oh, did
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  Speaker 2: you try to call him after that?
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  Speaker 4: And what happened?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? Yes, we did, you know, we we didn't immediately
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  Speaker 3: hang up the phone. We you know, we called his name.
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  Speaker 3: We tried to, you know, thinking that he still had
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  Speaker 3: the phone, that it was very near him, that he
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  Speaker 3: could pick it up. We'd hear our voice and we
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  Speaker 3: called out to him several times and we realized, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he's not there. We did we called him back several times, thinking,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he'll he'll see the phone light up, even
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  Speaker 3: if he didn't have it on ring, he would see
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  Speaker 3: his phone light up when the call came in. He'd
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  Speaker 3: find it, you know, he'd answer the call. And it
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  Speaker 3: just didn't happen. Time and again, just it just went unanswered.
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  Speaker 2: What time did you finally call police?
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  Speaker 3: I finally called the Sheriff's department at approximately six thirty
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  Speaker 3: in the morning, so right.
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  Speaker 2: When the sun was coming up.
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  Speaker 1: The exact location of the car was recorded using Universal
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  Speaker 1: Transverse or CAD coordinates, and this discovery became the key
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  Speaker 1: starting point for the next phase of the search, as
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  Speaker 1: investigators tried to figure out Brandon's final movements and what
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  Speaker 1: had happened to him. Strangely, there's been little information leaked
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  Speaker 1: to the public to this day about exactly what efforts
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  Speaker 1: were executed on that first day in the search for Brandon.
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  Speaker 1: According to a media report, local law enforcement requested assistance
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  Speaker 1: from a search canine unit in Chippewac County, but the
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  Speaker 1: specific findings of this dog remain unknown. Additionally, it's documented
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  Speaker 1: that Brandon's vehicle was towed away on the first day
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: of the search. Unfortunately, on the morning of May fourteenth,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: road grading operations were conducted in the area, which inadvertently
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: erased any potential footprints or other trace evidence that could
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: have been useful in the search for Brandon. So incredibly
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: poor timing on that the county was actually doing road
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: grading and road maintenance that morning, So any footprints, any
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: tire tracks, you know, maybe if there was even blood
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: that had dripped out of Brandon from some sort of
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: an injury, I don't know what they would have found.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: But those maintenance cars cleared all that stuff off of
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: the gravel road so any of that evidence that could
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: have existed was immediately bulldozed. And so the day of
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: May fourteenth, two thousand and eight, ended and nobody had
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: found a single trace of Brandon Swanson. It was literally
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: as if he had vanished into thin air. Interestingly, though,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Lyon County Sheriff Joel Dahl noted that from a general
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: vicinity of the search area, a red beacon atop a
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: grain elevator in the nearby town of Taunton was clearly visible.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: It was theorized at the time that Brandon may have
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: mistaken this distant red light for Lynde, Minnesota, leading him
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: to believe he was closer to town than he actually was.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: But it is bizarre. There weren't any immediate big city lights,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: you know, popping out anywhere, no light pollution, nothing crazy
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: that authorities noticed that would have made sense with what
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Brandon was telling his parents, you know, he was telling
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: them he was walking towards the bright lights, the bright
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: city lights, and they just didn't see what Brandon, you know,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: could have necessarily been talking about based on where his
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: car crashed. The next day, on May fifteenth, two thousand
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: and eight, at approximately eleven am, member of the Codington
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: County Search, dive and Rescue team arrived in town at
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: the request of the Lyon County Sheriff's office. Initial efforts
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: to find which direction Brandon had traveled in on the
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: night of his disappearance using scent tracking dogs proved to
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: be unsuccessful. However, once the dog's handlers switched to a
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: different scent article basically used a different item of Brandon's
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: to try to determine his scent and track that scent,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: one bloodhound was able to pick up a trail. The
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: dog led search teams south from Brandon's abandoned vehicle for
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: half a mile before turning west on a nearby three
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: ninetieth street. The trail then proceeded one mile west, turned
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: north onto County Road sixteen for another half mile, and
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: veered west again onto the driveway of a deserted farm.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: From there, Brandon sent continued for a quarter of a
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: mile before leaving the driveway and following the Yellow Medicine
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: River northwest. At one point, the bloodhound entered and then
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: exited the river, leading its handler to suspect that Brandon
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: may have fallen into the water at that location. However,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: the centrol was picked up beyond the river, moving toward
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: a drain area, and eventually stopping near a gravel road
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: marking the boundary between Lincoln and Yellow Medicine Counties. This
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: showed authorities that even though it appeared that Brandon had
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: stumbled into the river, it seemed as though he had
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: crawled out and continued on his walk towards what he
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: believed was in nearby town. Interestingly, the Bloodhound's findings aligned
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: with Brandon's forty seven minute phone conversation with his father.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Throughout their discussion, Brandon described traveling along gravel roads before
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: deciding to cut across open grassy land. Over the phone,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Brandon mentioned encountering two fence lines and hearing nearby running water.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: The search terrain in the area near the river is rugged,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: covered with dense vegetation, and scattered with animal dents. Additionally,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Brandon was congenitally blind in his left eye, which likely
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: affected his depth perception, especially in the low light conditions
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: that he was working with on the night of his disappearance.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Given that the moon was setting at the time that
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: he vanished, Brandon would have been left to navigate the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: rugged terrain that evening in near total darkness. If one
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: factor's in an average way walking speed of one to
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: three miles per hour, then Brandon could have been anywhere
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: from three quarters of a mile to two and a
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: half miles away from his car when the phone call
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: abruptly ended. The point where the dog entered and exited
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the river falls within that estimated range. To some people
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: who study this case, it seems the most plausible that
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Brandon may have stumbled upon an unseen hazard trip door
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: lost his balance while navigating the rugged and uneven terrain.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: In the process, he may have dropped and broken his phone,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: whether due to water exposure, impact damage, battery displacement, or
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: simply an inability to locate it in the dark. In
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: addition to the bloodhound, two other search dogs scoured the
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: area near Brandon's vehicle and along the Yellow Medicine River.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Numerous spontaneous volunteers joined the search, and a team from
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the Department of Natural Resources conducted a boat patrol along
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: the river. The strongest theory, based on the bloodhound's tracking results,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: suggests that Brandon may have fallen into the river and drowned.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: While this remains a primary focus of search efforts, alternative
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: possibilities do exist, for instance, since Brandon may have lost
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: or broken his phone and just continued to walk. Notably,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: despite the bloodhound entering the river, it later exited and
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: continued tracking, purposefully, implying that the scent trail did indeed
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: persist beyond the water's edge. The dog followed the trail
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: up to another gravel road before it suddenly and abruptly
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: lost the scent, which could indicate either an extended trek
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: or the natural limits of the bloodhound's scent tracking abilities.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Given that the trail stretched over three miles, it's considered
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: a relatively extensive tracking result. Following the initial search, which
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: yielded no definitive evidence of Brandon's whereabouts, most formal efforts
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: were suspended. However, Sheriff Jack Vezeki, a law enforcement official
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: who has remained committed to finding Brandon over the years,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: maintained a persistent search, systematically walking a two mile stretch
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: of the Yellow Medicine River daily for a duration of
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: thirty days. Meanwhile, the Swanson family continued to leave their
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: porch light illuminated each night and enduring gestures symbolizing their
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: hope that Brandon would either return or be located. However,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: as you know, Brandon never came home. How sad is
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: that his family leaves an actual light on their porch,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: hoping that one day Brandon will make his way back home.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: He's lost somewhere, he doesn't know where he is. They're
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: hoping that he just knows how to find his way home,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: so they left the light on just in case one
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: day he came back. But unfortunately, it's been almost twenty
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: years and no trace of Brandon has ever been found,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: so search operations recommenced later that autumn once the crops
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: planted shortly after Brandon's disappearance had been harvested. Kadaverdogs deployed
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: during these renewed efforts at one point actually detected potential
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: traces of human remains in an area northwest of Porter, Minnesota,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: an area which had not been previously examined. These efforts
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: were further intensified that next spring during the interval between
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: the thawing of winter snow and the onset of the
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: next planting season, a cyclical process that persisted through the
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: year twenty eleven. By the year twenty eleven, approximately one
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty two square miles of the area rounding
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: the location of Brandon's disappearance had been systematically searched by
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: law enforcement, local authorities, and volunteers alike, but no trace
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: of Brandon was ever located, not a single piece of clothing,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: not a shred of DNA, not even his cell phone.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: He completely vanished. In twenty ten, jurisdiction over the case
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: was assumed by the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, which
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: became the lead investigative agency tasked with solving the case.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: The Bureau shortly afterwards established a dedicated tip line specifically
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: for the case of Brandon Swanson, through which ninety leads
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: had been reported by twenty fifteen. As investigative efforts continued,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: the primary area of focus shifted towards Mud Creek, a
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: tributary of the Yellow Medicine River situated north and northwest
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: of Porter. But still to this day, no trace of
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Brandon has ever been found. So that's incredibly bizarre. This
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: whole thing is bizarre. So Courtney, my wife, and I
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: co hosts the podcast Murder in America. We've done tons
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: of in depth, you know, really thoroughly researched stories on
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: people that have disappeared. I've consumed tons of media and
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: read books by authors like David Politis. Examining missing persons cases.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: On my TikTok account, where I have almost three and
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: a half million followers, I post almost every single day
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: a different true crime case, and I've covered so many
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: stories of people that have gone missing. But what's incredibly
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: strange to me is that in almost all these cases
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: that I've covered, either on conspiracy files, Murder in America,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: my TikTok, my instagram here on the paranormal files, they
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: find something from the person. The person doesn't just vanish
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: into thin air. And that's what's insane to me about
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: this case is how have they never found Brandon's phone,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: How have they never found any of his clothing, how
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: they never found him or even any trace of him.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: None of this stuff adds up, and then you clearly
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: have this oh shit moment where something happens to Brandon.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: But then what's really strange and ominous to me is
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: that it just goes completely silent. There's no sounds afterwards.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: So it's weird because the call didn't drop brand like,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: the phone didn't hang up. The call just went completely
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: silent after he screamed that out. We need to take
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: a look at some of the theories now behind Brandon's
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: disappearance before we move on to finding evidence of our own.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, what possibly could have happened to him. That's
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: something we're going to look into right now. So Jeff
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Haas is a search and rescue expert who gathered a
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: lot of the information that I'm presenting to you in
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: this episode. Jeff actually posted a very very thorough paper
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: online that you can go read yourself about Brandon's disappearance,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: analyzing a lot of the factors and you know, compiling
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of the information. So I want to thank
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Jeff for his contributions to this case and for what
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: he did with that paper. I also want to give
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: him credit for the work that he did. But something
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: that I really liked about the paper that Jeff published
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: was some of the theories were spelled out in the
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: paper and then he helped provide some arguments for in
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: arguments against that people commonly cite when it comes to
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: these theories. Well, we're going to examine a few of
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: these theories that Jeff presents in his paper, and then
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: we're going to move on to more theories that I
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: gathered information on through independent research, using newspaper articles, you know,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: online forums, all sorts of different things, and it's really bizarre,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: and I really would like you guys, if you're watching
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: this episode, please leave me a long comment talking about
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: what you think happened to Brandon. I want to start
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: discussions in the chat I want to start discussions in
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: the comment section. I want people to comment on other
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: people's comments, because the main reason, like I said before,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: why we do so many of these episodes is to
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: keep these people's names in the public consciousness. I don't
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: want to let these things fade away and disappear. The
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Swanston family deserves justice, and they deserve for their son
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: to be found. I mean, I can't imagine the pain
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: that they've felt all these years, and at this point,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: when there's literally zero resolution in this case, I think
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: that it's totally fair to examine all these different possibilities,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: things that may have happened, even things that are non traditional.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about some of that stuff in
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: a little bit, but please keep this story alive and
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: let me know what your thoughts are about these theories
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: in the comment section. So all these theories are going
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: to basically be what people think happened to Brandon after
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: he yelled out oh shit. So it's pretty well documented.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: You know, Brandon was alive and well, he was walking,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: his location data was tracked, and then all of a
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: sudden he yelled out, oh shit, and that's when the
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: phone call, you know, went dead. So that's where all
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: the question lies, is what happened after he screamed that
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: out and what caused him to scream that out? And
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: that's what we're going to be examining. So the first
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: theory that people believe in is theory number one. Brandon's
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: phone call went dead and he exclaimed oh shit. Because
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: he fell into a nearby river, his phone was fried
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: in the cold waters, and unable to escape the water himself,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Brandon drowned. Now, there are a few potential locations where
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: this drowning may have happened, and those locations include the
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Yellow Medicine River located to the south, and west Mud
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Creek situated to the north, and really any of the
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: smaller drainage ditches spread throughout the area. Now, some of
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: the evidence that supports this theory includes the fact that
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Brandon mentioned hearing running water during his phone conversation and
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: The fact that the scent dogs track brandon scent to
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: the Yellow Medicine River now drowning would explain why no
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: physical evidence of Brandon's presence has ever been found, as
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: it would have been swept away with them downstream to
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: an unknown location. And in addition, searching bodies of water
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: is incredibly difficult, making it possible that he has not
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: yet been located within the point seventy five to two
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: and a half mile radius of his last known position. However,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: critics of the theory point out that even though Brandon's
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: phone call abruptly ended, that doesn't necessarily mean that he
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: was unable to continue walking afterwards. Extensive searches have been
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: conducted within the suspected area, especially along the Yellow Medicine River,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: without success. This suggests that he probably ended up elsewhere.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: In addition, after Brandon disappeared, boats from the state's Department
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: of Natural Resources were deployed to conduct a systematic search
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: along the river, and water control gates were installed to
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: manage flow and facilitate search efforts. Yes, gates were literally
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: installed in key parts of the rivers where it was
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: determined that if Brandon had fallen in, they would have
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: caught his body. They literally put gates metal in the rivers,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: essentially like a trap. So if Brandon's body or anything
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: related to Brandon, you know, articles of clothing, his cell phone, something,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: his shoes, any of that, if that had floated down
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: the river that he, you know, according to this theory,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: fell into, then those gates would have caught that and
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: we would have found it by now. But the gates
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: never provided any additional evidence, and in certain locations within
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Lincoln County, water levels had reached a depth of ten
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: feet on the morning that Swanson disappeared, but had since receded,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: according to the sheriff at the time, meant that there
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: would have been less flow and less movement that could
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: have swept Brandon's body away. So the river was pretty
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: high on the morning that Brandon disappeared, but then it dropped,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: it dropped a way lower, so so he definitely would
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: have washed up somewhere in a lot of people's minds. Additionally,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: law enforcement personnel patrolled the riverbanks on foot, while equestrian
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: units and all terrain vehicles were utilized to extend search
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: efforts into the surrounding terrain, and they found no trace
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: of him. Now, I personally don't believe that Brandon drowned
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: in the river. I feel like they would have found
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: at least a part of him, like his clothes, some
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: of his DNA, his body, his cell phone, anything at
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: this point. And it also doesn't explain how his cent
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: trail continued out of the river. Remember that scent tracking
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: dog went into the river and then it went out,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it stopped at that gravel road.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I understand why people would believe in this theory, but
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: it's just I think that that's too simple of an
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: explanation for what happened here. Then you have theory number two,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: which claims that after proclaiming oh shit, Brandon may have
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: tripped and sustained an injury which rendered him unable to move,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and he later died due to exposure to the elements. Now,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: proponents of this theory claimed that, given the cold night
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: and the light clothing that Brandon was wearing, a person
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: unable to move would almost certainly have succumbed to hypothermia.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: But critics of this theory say that if Brandon had
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: indeed remained in one place within the search radius, like
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: for example, if he broke his leg and he couldn't
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: move further than you know, where he had broken his leg,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: or if he had injured himself and he had been
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: forced to crawl somewhere, he likely would have been found
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: by now. I mean, he definitely would have been with
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: how deep they have searched this area and how large
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: the search radius is now. Skeptics also claim that, yes,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Brandon may have slipped and lost his phone, but if
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: he survived that moment, he almost certainly continued walking. It's
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: not like he would have, you know, lost his phone
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: and then said, oh shit, w well, I'm just gonna
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: lay down here and die. You know, he would have
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: kept walking. I also don't believe this theory because I
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: think it's once again too simple. And if he would
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: have laid down and died somewhere, they would have found
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: him by now. They would have found his phone, they
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: would have found Brandon, they would have found his clothing,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: they would have found some sort of remains. But we
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: have to move on to theori number three. So theory
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: number three states that Brandon may have gotten wet from
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: falling into the river, from walking through wet grass or sweating,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: which led to hypothermia over time and then subsequent death. Now,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: people who believe in this theory state that there's no
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: guarantee that Brandon stopped moving once his phone cut out. Phones,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: as we all know, are fragile and can be easily
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: dropped or damaged, and despite extensive searches within the estimated range,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Brandon has not been found, which has led many people
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: to believe that he's in fact nowhere in the immediate area.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: According to Robert Coaster in lost person behavior, studies show
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: that in many missing person cases, searches often fail to
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: check beyond the statistical median range. In this case, the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: median distance is one point three miles, which has already
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: been searched very thoroughly, and this means that there's still
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: a fifty percent chance that Brandon is located somewhere beyond
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: that distance. But critics who don't believe in this theory
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: east state that once again, Brandon was walking on foot
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: that evening, so even if he had succumbed to hypothermia,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: his body would have been located by now somewhere in
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: the area. And also, they have thoroughly searched every parcel
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: of land, well almost every we're going to talk about
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: that in a second in that area one hundred and
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: twenty plus square mile radius of search area and still
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: no trace of Brandon. So I think if he had
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: just laid down and died somewhere, he definitely would have
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: been found by now we need to move on. So
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: theory number four, and this is a pretty popular theory,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: states that while walking, Brandon may have fallen into an
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: old well and outdated cistern or an underground storage tank,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: was thus trapped and was unable to escape. This theory
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: claims that Brandon was trapped down there, he died down there,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: and that's where his body remains to this day. People
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: who believe in this theory claim that this would explain
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: why his body has never been found. He fell into
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: some deep sort of hole, a hole that is well
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: hidden within the Minnesotan terrain, and he's been trapped there
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: ever since. In addition, they claim that that's why Brandon's
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: father hurt the sound of a shoe sliding or slipping
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: before the call drop. However, skeptics state that most residential
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: wells in the area are too small. On average, they're
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: only around four to six inches in diameter, so half
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: a foot I want you to imagine how small half
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: a foot is. I think that's about six inches a
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: foot six way too small for a person to fall into,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: and larger wells for municipal or commercial use are extremely
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: rare in that rural region and are typically enclosed within
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: buildings and surrounded by fences, slash security measures, and typically lighting.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: The only kind of well large enough for an adult
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: to fall into would be a hand dug, stone or
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: woodlined well, which would likely be over a century old
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: and would probably have collapsed by now. Finding an intact
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: well in that part of Minnesota would be incredibly rare,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: especially with the weather conditions that constant freezing and thawing
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: and flooding and all the weather that you know has
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: exist over the last century in Minnesota, and it's just unlikely.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: In addition, Minnesota law has required abandoned wells and cisterns
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: to be sealed for years. Yes, that's an actual law
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: in Minnesota, stating that if you have an abandoned well
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: on your property, by law, you have to go out
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: there and seal that and make sure that it's not
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: a hazard or you can face huge finds, a law
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: which also reduced the likelihood of such a hazard existing
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: in the search area. Now, while old cisterns are more
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: common than old wells, they're often covered with rotting, wooded
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: lids that could give way. But despite thorough searches of
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: the few remaining abandoned farmsteads in that area, including the
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: abandoned farm that brandon scent was tracked to, no such hazards,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: not even one abandoned well or cistern have been found.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: You see, many old farm sites in the region have
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: been completely removed to make room for agricultural use, making
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: it completely unlikely that Brandon encountered such a structure. And
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: I think that that's crazy. It totally makes sense, and
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I totally understand why some people would believe in that theory,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: But to me, it just doesn't make sense the statistical
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: likelihood that you would be walking through a field and
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: just happened to step on an old well that's never crumbled,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: it's never been sealed off, it's completely unmarked, and it's
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: just sitting there out in the open waiting for somebody
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: to walk into it like a death trap. I just
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: don't think that that's very likely, especially with how farmers,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: you know, pay attention to their land. And they love
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: their land, and that's a rural, agricultural, you know, farming area.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: These farmers that live in that area, who you know,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: wanted to help solve this case. If they had an
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: old abandon well in their property, I'm almost gonna guarantee
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: you that they would have known where it was on
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: their land and they would have led investigators to it.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: It just doesn't make sense to me that on some
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: farmer's property somewhere off in the deep. I mean it's
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: not there's not even really deep woods in that area,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: but you know, somewhere there's a huge hole in the
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: ground that nobody has ever looked into, you know, in
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: the search for Brandon. It just does That does not
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: make sense to me personally, but I understand why some
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: people would believe that's the case. Now, theory number five
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: states that Brandon may have been picked up by someone
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: and taken out of the search area, and that he
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: may have been harmed by whoever picked him up. In
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: this scenario, some phantom kidnapper happened to be at the
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: right place at the right time and decided that on
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: that evening they were going to abduct and kill Brandon Swanson. Now,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: the proponents of this theory don't really have evidence. It's
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: more circumstantial. The fact that Brandon yelled, oh shit, and
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: the lack of any evidence relating to Brandon being found,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: has led some to believe that he may have been
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: physically taken and transported out of the area by an
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: individual or group of persons with nefarious intentions. However, skeptics
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: state that the chance of encountering a violent individual in
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: such a rural area, especially in the middle of the
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: night on a weekday, is quite low. While nothing in
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: this world is truly impossible, it just seems unlikely to
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: me that Brandon would have come across someone who was
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: ready to abduct and murder a random per person at
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: that very moment. Some people also believe that Brandon may
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: have been abducted by sex traffickers, but the skeptics kind
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: of state the same things about that theory. There's no
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: real evidence and no real reason to believe that that
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: would be the case. Theory number six states that on
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: that evening, Brandon may have hitched a ride from someone
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: and started a new life elsewhere. Evidence for this theory
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: doesn't really exist. It's just a thought or a concept.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: There's been no trace of Brandon ever found or recovered
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: anywhere on Earth. If he had really escaped the area
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: and started a new life, I believe that someone would
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: have seen him or reported seeing him by now. In addition,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: at the time of his vanishing, he had his whole
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: life ahead of him. He had a loving family and
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: good friends. And also skeptics state that Brandon didn't appear
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: to have any financial resources, means of support, or a
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: prior intent to disappear voluntarily. He didn't have the money
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: to disappear, He had no reason to disappear, so I
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: don't know why he would make himself disappear.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: One of the most popular modern theories, theory number seven,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: is that Brandon may have accidentally been run over by
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: a farm vehicle the next morning after laying down in
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: a field due to exhaustion or hypothermia. This is a
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: theory that I've heard and seen discussed many many times
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: online about this case. So the theory basically states that
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Brandon indeed was suffering from you know, hypothermia or some
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: form of exhaustion. Maybe he got out of the river
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: and he was soaking wet, and you know, it dropped
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: to almost freezing temperatures, so maybe he lied down in
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: a field. So maybe on that evening he went to
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: lay down in a field he wanted to take a nap,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: and he either fell into a really heavy slumber or
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: he died. Then this theory states that after that in
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: the morning, a farmer who got up early at the
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: crack of dawn to go work the fields, was operating
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: his farm equipment and he accidentally ran over Brandon's body
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: as he was laying in the field. People who believe
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: this theory also believe that after having run over and
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: mutilated Brandon's body, the farmer may have chosen to cover
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: up the accident rather than report it. Interestingly, I will
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: say this, there is some compelling evidence for this theory.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: This kind of ties into what we talked about before.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Like I said, you know about Brandon laying down and
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: the hypothermia that people believe he may have experienced. But
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: this theory posits that shortly afterwards, that farmer that was
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: working on their field after Brandon laid down, ran him
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: over with a large piece of equipment imagine like a
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: combine or something like that. And interestingly, one of those
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: scent dogs actually led investigators to a nearby farm when
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: they were searching for Brandon, and Brandon sent was reportedly
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: detected on a piece of farm equipment there, and interestingly enough,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: the owner of that farm property was hesitant to allow
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: a full search of his land. To this day, actually,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: the farmer has never allowed investigators to thoroughly search his property.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: This is a real fact of the case that has
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: always stuck out to me as being a bit odd.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: You see, if Brandon had indeed collapsed or lied down
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: to go to sleep in a field and was accidentally
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: run over, the farmer may have feared incoming legal repercussions.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, he possibly could have been facing a murder
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: charge for brutally butchering a young man in his field.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: And according to this theory, like I said, the farmer
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: may have disposed of Brandon's remains secretly. Feeding remains to livestock.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: In fact, would be a possible and viable method of
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: covering up evidence on murder. In America, We've talked about
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: murderous farmers that have fed corpses to pigs, so it's
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: not too far fetched. And the fact that the guy
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: won't allow a search of his property is just bizarre. However,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: skeptics claim that no direct evidence has been found to
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: support this theory. No DNA, no body, nothing. They also
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: state that even if Brandon had been in a field,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: it's unclear why he would not have been found before morning,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: and why he wouldn't have been awoken by the roaring
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: sounds of farming equipment. There's also no direct evidence, and
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: that's all pretty circumstantial stuff. Maybe the dog was confused.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Maybe the farmer just doesn't want agents tearing up his land.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't blame for that, but it is odd.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: You know, everybody else in that immediate area opened up
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: their properties, opened up their land, invited the search teams
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: to come in and thoroughly look for Brandon because they
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: knew how big of a deal this was. I mean,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: this was like national news, and this one farmer just
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: didn't want to let them come take a look at
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: what was going on there. So I don't know, that's weird,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: but we need to move on. Theory Number eight claims
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: that while walking, Brandon came across something that he should
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: not have seen, possibly a drug deal of some sort,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: some form of criminal activity, or even a rip or
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: a crime in progress. It's believed by some that that's
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: the reason why Brandon shouted oh shit in surprise. He
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: may have then dropped or disconnected his phone, was chased,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: and was then abducted and killed by the criminal who
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: was caught in the act. It's also posited by some
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: believers in this theory that Brandon may have accidentally walked
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: into the wrong field or farm property, maybe a local
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: farm that was growing illegal substances or plan, and that
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: the farmer, trying to maintain control over his operation and
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: the secrecy that they cultivated, murdered Brandon in an attempt
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: to keep the police away from their property. It's interesting
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: a lot I've heard a lot of people say this.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe Brandon was walking through a field and
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: he came across something he shouldn't have seen. He looks up,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: he sees this farmer holding up a shotgun pointed at him,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: and he yells out, oh shit. Boom. The farmer shoots
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Brandon at the same time. The bullet, if it's a shotgun,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: you know, the spread may have taken out Brandon's cell phone,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: which could have led to the silence. There's also the
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: thought that maybe the farmer you know, snuck up on
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Brandon if he was looking at something he shouldn't have
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: seen and clocked him in the back of the head
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: with a shovel. It's unknown. But once again, there's no
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: direct evidence to support this theory other than the theory itself.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: But then again, in this case, there really isn't any
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: evidence at all. The evidence that exists mainly exists to
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: debunk o their theories, so I'm not completely ruling that
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: one out. It's also been reported in various outlets that
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: when Brandon's car was discovered, it was found with the
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: doors wide open, where the doors opened after the fact
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: by criminals looking to cover their tracks. Why were the
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: doors all opened in the first place. Another question that
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I have is did they ever check the car for
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: any fingerprints or DNA evidence. To my knowledge, they did not,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: But we have to move on another theory. Theory number
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: nine states that Brandon may have been walking down the
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: road where he was run over and killed by someone
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: who was driving home late at night that evening. Brandon
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: was possibly crossing that dirt road where his scent ended,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: and someone was speeding down the road, maybe with their
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: lights off. They could have been drinking and driving since
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: it was that time of night, after bars closed, they
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: hit Brandon, they killed Brandon, and then the driver panicked,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: packed up Brandon's body and sped away and once again
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: to reiterate. On the morning of May fourteenth, the morning
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: that Brandon went missing, road grading operations were conducted in
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: that immediate area, which inadvertently erased any potential footprints or
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: other trace evidence that could have been useful in the
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: search for Brandon. So if there were other tire tracks
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: or footprints in any roadways nearby, they were erased before
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: they could have been discovered. And that's interesting. I mean,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: if Brandon really was hit, you'd imagine there would have
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: been like swerve marks, there would have been I don't
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: know how you'd even described that, like a track tracks
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: tracks in you know, the dirt and the gravel in
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: that area. Maybe there even would have been a bloodstain
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: or something found. But those road grading operations completely erased
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: any chance of finding stuff like that. But it would
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: explain to some people why Brandon sent ended in the
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: middle of that dirt road and then randomly it just vanished.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: If someone really did hit him there and they put
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: him in the back of their car and drove him
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: off somewhere. I mean, that's totally possible too. In additional theory,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: theory number ten states that Brandon may have been being
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: chased on the evening of his disappearance. This theory posits
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: that Brandon took the back roads that evening because he
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: was being pursued by some phantom villain. They also claim
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: that this explains why Brandon swerved his car into a
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: ditch on a very straight, clean cut road. It is interesting,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna see this in the video when
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: we visit the road in just a few minutes. It's
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: a very very straight road and it doesn't exactly make
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: sense as to how he ended up in the ditch.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: I understand that, you know, he may have been trying
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: to do some sort of a maneuver and accidentally went over,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: you know, into the ditch area and that's where his
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: car bottomed out essentially. But it is weird because it's
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: a very straight, kind of obvious wide road. It's not
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: like a swerving country back road like you know you'd
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: see in Ireland or England. Believers in this theory also
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: state that Brandon would not have told his parents if
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: he was being pursued by someone. Maybe he owed someone
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: some money, he had pissed someone off at one of
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: the parties he attended, or he was in with the
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: wrong crowd and they had chased him down to collect
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: on a debt. Once again, there's never been any direct
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: evidence found that would support this theory. So people who
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: believe this theory think that it might have been some
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: sort of a drug debt, that Brandon was laid on,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: some sort of a payment. He had gone in debt
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: with these people that were giving him substances, and for
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: some reason they were really pissed off he had shorted
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: them and they came to collect. Now after his disappearance,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: a pipe was found in Brandon's vehicle. Some people have
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: taken this as evidence or proof that Brandon had used
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: drugs at some point before his death and that he
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: may have owed someone money or a drug debt. On Reddit,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: this is interesting. Some users have claimed in the past
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: to have been from the area and have commented about
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: how they've heard local rumblings in the small towns like
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Lynde that Brandon owed a drug debt, that he was
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: found and killed by the dealers, that he shorted, and
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: that his body is now buried somewhere in the Dakotas. However,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: this is all conjecture and there's no real proof or
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: smoking gun to this theory. Brandon also had no documented
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: struggles with substance abuse, so there's no paper trail to
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: back any of these assertions up. I will state here though,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: I do have a friend. I have a friend that
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: got mixed up in the wrong sort of activity for
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: a little while when he was younger, and he was,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: you know, running with the wrong crowd. He's totally changed now.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: He's a very good friend of mine. But at one point,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: this is a real story. He told me one time.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: He said that he was told to show up to
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: this guy's house. My friend was doing stuff without my knowledge.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: This is when I was living in Texas at the
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: time and he was back home in South Dakota, so
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that this was all going on. Went
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: to this guy's house who he was buying product from
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: to disperse the product to other people. I'm trying to
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: think about. I can say this on YouTube. Let's just
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: say cush. Maybe that'll go past the thing. My friend
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: was just doing some small time cush sales, which I
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: didn't know about, but he said that this guy who
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: he would buy the stuff in bulk from, told him,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: you need to come over to my house right now.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: So my friend went over to this guy's house in
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: a small town near Sioux Falls, South Dakota. When he
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: went into the guy's house, he said, you need to
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: come downstairs with me. So he went downstairs to the
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: basement of this home, which was a rental house this
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: guy was in, and my friend said that he saw
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: a human corpse being dissolved in acid. And he said,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: and this guy told my friend at the time, when
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: he was staring at this thing, this is what happens
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: to you if you me over. And that was the
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: last straw for my friend. This is why he told
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: me all this because he immediately stopped doing what he
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: was doing, realizing how, you know, what a bad road
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: he was on. And Yeah, that story's always shocked me
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: because it's like, where I'm from, that shit doesn't happen.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: I think there's been one or two serial killers in
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: the entire you know, history of South Dakota. There really
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: aren't murders in South Dakota. So to hear a story
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: like that was shocking. So when I was reading this
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: story and I heard, oh, he's buried in the Dakota
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: is somewhere and I have like a personal connection to
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: a store. Sorry that I believe to be true because
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: I trust my friend. It's really crazy, And yes, for
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: people that are gonna ask, he did call the police
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: and report this whole thing, but they never got back
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: to him and nothing ever happened. But he was he
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: was legitimately really really freaked out and fearing for his
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: life for a little while after that story. So anyways,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: let's get back to Brandon. So there are also some
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: people who believe that the paranormal may have been at
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: play in Brandon's disappearance. Some people claim that Brandon was
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: a part of a bizarre string of disappearances that have
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: happened across the globe that have been chronicled by researcher
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: David Politis in his series Missing four one one. We
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: could spend the entire episode talking about Missing four one one,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: which we're actually going to be doing a full episode
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: about Missing four one one in the near future, So
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: you should get excited because that one's going to be crazy.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: But it's worth mentioning here if you don't know what
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Missing four one one is. I'd highly recommend you do
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: some independent research because hearing the details of those stories
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: will change your life and your perception of the world
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: around you. Basically, Missing four one one one is this
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: string of disappearances that have happened across the globe, but
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: so many in America and mainly in like American national parks.
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  Speaker 1: People that like, let's say, for an example, I'm here
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  Speaker 1: and my friend Joe is right here. Joe's like twenty
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: feet away from me in the woods. We're hunting, we
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: have rifles, We're walking through the woods together, we're talking
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: to each other. I can see him clearly through the trees.
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  Speaker 1: And as we're walking, we pass by a big tree
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: trunk and when I keep walking, all of a sudden,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Joe stops responding. I turn my left. Joe's gone. I
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: go over and look for him. There's no trace of
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: him there, and his clothing isn't there, his gun isn't there.
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  Speaker 1: He's just vanished, and from that point on, Joe remains
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: missing forever. That's happened thousands of times in America and
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Canada and all over the place. But essentially, where these
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: people just vanish into thin air, there are a certain
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: set of specific circumstances that you know, have to exist
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  Speaker 1: within the environment for it to be a missing for
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  Speaker 1: one one case, which is why I'm hesitant to call
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  Speaker 1: this missing for one one. But this is exactly like
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: what missing for one one is saying happens. These people
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: completely vanish off the face of the earth, and it's
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: very scary stuff. They're children that have gone missing, adults,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: you know, men, women, everybody. It could affect anyone, and
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: people think maybe they're being abducted by aliens. There's a
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: whole Missing four one one Aliens movie that's really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: People think that it could be a slip into an
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: alternate dimension. People, it's just it's stuff that's absolutely beyond
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: human comprehension. Even weirder than Brandon's disappearance. These stories where
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: it's like, literally, you're standing next to your friend, you
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: turn your back to go walk in the other direction,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: and ten seconds later you turn around and your friend's
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: missing and they're never seen again. It's the most insane
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: shit ever. So some people believe Brandon is one of
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: those cases. He was in nature after all, and he
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: was never found again. But some people also claim that
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: they believe Brandon may have slipped somehow into another dimension,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: and that explains why no trace of him has ever
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: been located. I do want to express here that we
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: are not trying to trivialize the disappearance of Brandon Swanson.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: We're not trying to sensationalize any of this. In my opinion,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: I believe in the paranormal, and I believe in all
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: of these things. I believe people have been abducted by aliens.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: I believe missing for one one thousands of people have
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: vanished into thin air with no explanation, which could be aliens,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: could be dimensional time slips. I don't know what it
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: could be. But I genuinely believe in this stuff, and
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: I feel like in a case like this, when there's
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: no leads and no information, it's like exploring the unknown.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Angles of this are interesting and important because I just
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: have an open mind, and having an open mind is
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: incredibly important in this line of work. We're not trying
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: to solve crimes here on this channel. We're trying to
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: dig up evidence of our own, especially with crimes where
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: investigators have failed. I'm not necessarily saying there was a
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: failure here, but they have failed to find any trace
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: of Brandon. In a lot of the other cases, we
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: are investigating crimes where detectives have completely ignored evidence, where
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: detectives have been bribed and corrupted, and where perpetrators have
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: been allowed to get away. And the goal of these
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: videos is to raise awareness about this stuff and keep
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: people talking about it in whatever way that we can.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: I've worked with victims of crimes to help them tell
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: their stories on my podcast, on this upcoming documentary, I've
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: spent the last year on all these different things. I've
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: interviewed perpetrators of crimes to try and get an idea
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: of why they've done these things. And I've even worked
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: with like Nico to expose darker elements of the world.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Like Nico's a dark guy, but these elements of the
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: world are so much darker. It's so dark that even
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: he's disgusted by it. And no one talks about this stuff.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: So we're just examining things holistically here. And this leads
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: into the final theory. Finally, with all the strangeness surrounding
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Brandon's disappearance, people have claimed that it's possible that Brandon
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: was abducted into the sky by aliens or some form
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: of intelligence from outer space. They claim that this is
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: why Brandon proclaimed oh shit, and that this is why
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: no trace of him has ever been recovered, which seems
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: to be almost impossible in this day and age. Now,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: I want you to think of it like this. I
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: don't want you to think that Brandon was walking down
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  Speaker 1: the street and he this flying saucer like a UFO
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: hovered over him and beamed him up like Star Trek.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: When I'm positing here as someone who could potentially believe
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: that this theory could be possible, there have been tons
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: of people who have been abducted by these things. Same
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: with you know Missing four one one, people that just vanish.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: It's not like a Hollywood movie where these UAPs are
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: like you know, saucer. This would be like if something
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: from another dimension or just some force or energy that
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: is beyond human comprehension, if that really were to have
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: targeted a guy like Brandon, what I see happening would
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: be like maybe he saw a glimpse of what was
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: about to happen, but then it's like boom gone, like
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: just a flash and somebody disappears. That's what I think
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: happens with Missing four one one. So that's what we're
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: examining here, how that could be like a flash of
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: light that abducts someone, not like a Hollywood UFO. And interestingly,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Minnesota has had a long and colorful history of UFO
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: sightings and potential abductions.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: One of the most shocking UFO encounters in Minnesota history,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: in fact, was reported to authorities and tonational news outlets
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  Speaker 1: by Marshall County, Minnesota Deputy Sheriff Val Johnson in nineteen
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: seventy nine. And this story is absolutely insane. So Officer
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Val Johnson reported that while conducting a patrol near Stephn, Minnesota,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: at approximately two zwo am on August twenty seventh, nineteen
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  Speaker 1: seventy nine, he observed a concentrated beam of light hovering
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: above the roadway. According to Officer Johnson's account, the beam
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: of light emanating from the sky rapidly advanced towards him,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: enveloping his squad car in an intense illumination, followed by
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: the distinct sound of breaking glass. Officer Johnson stated that
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: he subsequently lost consciousness for a duration of thirty nine minutes.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Now upon regaining awareness, he noted that both his wristwatch
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: and the vehicle's clock had ceased functioning for precisely fourteen minutes.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Upon further examination, and after making an official report to
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: his superiors about the incident, it was determined that Officer
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Johnson's squad car had indeed sustained multiple damages, including a
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: shattered windshield, a compromised headlight and red emergency light, and
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: a bent thin radio antenna. Responding deputies who were tasked
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: with following up on the report, discovered the vehicle position
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: sideways on the road exactly as Johnson had described it.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: After the alleged encounter, Officer Johnjohnson exhibited physical symptoms, including
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: bruising all over his body and ocular irritation, which a
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: medical professional likened to burns commonly experienced by welders. So
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Officer Johnson reported this happening, and he actually showed physical
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: symptoms from it. His eyes were burned, there were bruises
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: all over his body that were unexplainable, and this incident,
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: which was corroborated by law enforcement officers, is regarded as
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: one of the most credible alien encounter stories ever told,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: and it happened just a few hours away from where
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Brandon disappeared in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 6: It was one forty am Deputy Sheriff Val Johnson was
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: on patrol in rural Marshall County when suddenly he saw
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: a bright light a few feet above ground level, two
• 59:43
  Speaker 6: miles down the road.
• 59:44
  Speaker 7: I traveled about a mile and the light seemed to
• 59:48
  Speaker 7: intercept me, so to speak, came right upon me. It
• 59:52
  Speaker 7: was painful. The light was extremely brilliant and painful. I
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: closed my eyes and I heard the sound of breaking
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  Speaker 7: glass and that's the last.
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: Imm Whatever it was came extremely fast. He didn't have
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  Speaker 6: time to be scared. He doesn't know what it was.
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  Speaker 7: I have no idea. It's truly unexplainable to me. Unknown
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 7: to me.
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  Speaker 6: Johnson was unconscious for forty minutes before he radioed for
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 6: help and was taken to the hospital. A doctor and
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 6: later an eye specialist confirmed that Johnson had suffered mild
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: welder or flashburns to his eyes. Even stranger, both Johnson's
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 6: wristwatch and the electric clock in his patrol car had
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 6: mysteriously stopped for fourteen minutes. An investigator from the Center
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 6: for UFO Studies in Evanston, Illinois, flew in to examine
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 6: the damaged patrol car. There was no evidence of radioactivity
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 6: and neither the investigator nor the sheriff can figure how
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 6: the two spring mounted antennas became bent at almost ninety
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: degree angles at the scene of the accident, skid mark
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: show Deputy Johnson coasted for eight hundred feet after impact
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: before applying the brakes. The area around here has been searched,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: but nothing's been found. All kinds of small airplane theories
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 6: have been bandied around, but Deputy Johnson clearly remembers hearing
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 6: no engine noise, and nothing explains the fourteen minute lapse
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: in the two time pieces, nor the peculiar bending of
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 6: the antennas. It's a mystery, or, as the UFO investigator
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: from Illinois said, it appears to have been a close
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: encounter of the second kind.
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  Speaker 5: Thirty six years later, the deputy squad car is in
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: the Marshall County Museum. And then, of course the windshield
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: is broken something you can see where it hit herb.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: Moorestead was a fellow deputy at the time. The broken
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: headlight and the dented hood, the antennas warped in different directions.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: Whatever happened, there was evidence.
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  Speaker 5: The dashboard clock stopped for fourteen minutes.
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  Speaker 2: You can see that it wasn't Veil Johnson's head, for example,
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  Speaker 2: that hit there because it's.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: In the wrong place.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 7: It's too low.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: Yep, the way too low. Didn't seem to be any airplane,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: not way faster than something like that. We still believe
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: that our deputy had an encounter with something that we
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: haven't been able to explain yet.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: On this day, conspiracy theorists are still trying to solve
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: what law enforcement mechanical in spaces and the Center for
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: UFO Studies could not.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know what happened. I know on my own mind.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: I did the best job be code at me and
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: my department to investigate and find out what went on,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: and always found out as we don't know.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 7: Do you believe in UFOs?
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, kind of dude.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: There's got to be something more than us are home.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: In fact, according to the National UFO Reporting Center, which
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: verifies n debunks thousands of reports each year, there have
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: been over two thousand, one hundred credible reports of UFO
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: sightings recorded in Minnesota, spanning all the way back to
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: the year nineteen thirty two. Most of these sightings involve
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: phantom lights that travel through the skies, lights which seem
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: to emit no sound at all, silent alien objects that
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: move rapidly in zigzag around before vanishing up into the sky.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: There are also a few other interesting reports I'd like
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: to talk about that have emerged from Minnesota over the years.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: Two documented reports of UFO sightings were officially recorded in
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Minnesota during the year nineteen sixty five. The first incident
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: involved Arthur Strouch, a deputy sheriff from Sibley, who was
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: returning home from a family bow hunting excursion when he
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: and his companions observed a metallic, silver hued object moving
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: through the sky at an extraordinary velocity. Strouch successfully captured
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: an image of the UAP using his koonak instematic camera,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: an image to this day that has yet to be debunked.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: In another account, k eyl Long Prairie radio announcer Jerry
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: Townsend reported that his vehicle suddenly stalled while he was
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: driving along the Highway twenty seven. Upon investigation, he claimed
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: to have encountered an unusual spacecraft resembling a rocket. Townsend
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: further asserted that he was approached by three diminutive beings,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: each approximately six inches in height, with cylindrical forms resembling
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: beverage cans equipped with small appendages resembling fins. According to
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: his report, the entities eventually departed, leaving behind three distinct
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: oily residue markings on the roadway. Now this is really interesting.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: So the sheriff who made that first report, we talked
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: about where the light beam destroyed his car. The sheriff
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: from the second report, we talked about where they saw
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: that thing zipping through the sky. And this radio announcer
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: who saw these beings on the side of the road.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: They were all on country gravel roads, very late at night.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: So I think that's a very interesting commonality between all
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: of these stories is that these UFOs or UAPs or extraterrestrials.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: I know those are loaded words, but these things are
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: really making themselves known and visible to small select individuals
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: and groups of individuals way out in the countryside in
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: an area kind of like where Brandon was, where there
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: isn't a lot of light. There's really nothing going on
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: around the area. So I thought that was weird. A
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: later incident in nineteen eighty eight that I thought was
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: interesting was documented by a mother in Saint Paul, Minnesota,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: who submitted a report to the mutual UFO network or moufon.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: She recounted that her two and a half year old
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: son awakened her abruptly in the middle of the night
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: while playing a ukulele that was ordinarily stored on a
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: high shelf beyond his reach. Moments later, after a loud
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: impact was heard against the ceiling, the child exclaimed, bug
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: eyes is here.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So the.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: Mom saw that this child had somehow gotten hold of
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: this thing that was way up on the shelf. They
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: heard a huge bang on the ceiling and the kids
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: screamed out, bug eyes is here. A subsequent medical evaluation
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: revealed the presence of an omega shaped abrasion on the
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: child's back, and the origin of that remains to this
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: day by doctors and scientists alike unexplained. So caud extraterrestrials
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: have been involved in the disappearance of Brandon Swanson. Once again,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: I really do not want to sound like we're reaching
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: here or being insensitive. I'm just legitimately questioning all of
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: the evidence and presenting you people with every theory that
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: has been brought up by investigators and armchair detectives alike.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting. I mean, so many of
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: these theories, you can see they make sense up until
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: this point where it doesn't make sense or no, this
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: one seems really strong, but then this one also seems
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: like it's really strong, and it's just it's confusing all around.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: You don't really know what to think, so I don't
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: really know what to make evolve that now. I know
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: some people are gonna say, oh, there's no way that he,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: you know, got abducted by aliens, and there's no way
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: that there's interdimensional blah blah blah. But in a case
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: like this, where there's no clear explanation, I feel you
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: have to at times reach beyond the realm of human comprehension.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Because Missing four one one, if you've never looked into that,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: I need to do an episode on that soon. It
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: is crazy. And I'm not alleging you know that Brandon
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: was abducted by aliens, And I don't want to seem
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: like some sort of a lunatic, but it is just interesting.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: It's interesting to examine these things from every single angle, because,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: as we know, the United States government knows so much
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: more than they'll ever let onto. Whether it's about you know,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: are weapon abilities, are energy capabilities? Extraterrestrials life at the
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: bottom of the oceans. I mean, they know so much.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: And I've even heard some people theorize that the United
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: States government themselves are the ones abducting people to experiments
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: on them. Like, I've heard lots of crazy things, and
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: I've gone down lots of crazy rabbit holes, but I
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: just want the truth in all these stories. And I
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: don't know. Please let me know what your thoughts are
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: about what happened to Brandon, because this story is heartbreaking,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: it's infuriating, and one day I would really like to
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: see some sort of justice, you know, happen for the
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: Swanson family, because they've suffered long enough, and I just
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: don't know what to do. Someone has to know something
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: at this point, and someone's going to take a secret
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: with them to their grave. You know. I don't know
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: if someone's found Brandon on their property and they've never
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: reported it. Maybe the farmer did kill Brandon, maybe Brandon
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: did slip into some interdimensional you know, time slip, or
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: maybe he's just somewhere in the river still. I don't know,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: but I just really hope that one day there is
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: some form of closure. If you've enjoyed today's show and
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: you're listening. Please make sure you can do this on
• 1:08:10
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• 1:08:13
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• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: Those reviews really help, and it also kind of sucks
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: because people can write whatever the hell they want on there,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: So I've gotten people like accusing me of being a
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: predator because that's all that I talk about on this show,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: which is just an insanity. But yeah, if you guys
• 1:08:32
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  Speaker 1: sure to like and comment on the video if you're
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: watching on YouTube because that helps the channel grow. But yeah,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: if there's ever any update, I'll keep you guys updated
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: on this case. But for now, it's Collin. Thank you
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: for watching, keep that tinfoil hat on, stay suspicious, and
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: I'll see you next week.