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The Late Debate | 29 August · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Late de Bait.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's great to have your company on the Late
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  Speaker 2: Debate James Macpherson with Liz Stra and Caleb Bond coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Thieves caught on CCTV breaking into a Queensland home. But
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  Speaker 2: you'll never believe how they got in through the doggie door.
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  Speaker 3: Will show you that. Were you laughing for dog breaking
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  Speaker 3: and entering?
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  Speaker 1: Wolf?
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  Speaker 4: Wolf dog?
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  Speaker 5: Do they have I know I was going to say,
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  Speaker 5: actually I left my keys in the house one night
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  Speaker 5: and I had to get the neighbor to climb through
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  Speaker 5: the window to get the keys with me.
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  Speaker 4: But do you have any children?
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  Speaker 1: Just feed through the window.
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  Speaker 3: We'll show you the vision of these thieves through the
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  Speaker 3: doggy door. A little later.
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  Speaker 2: Plus, when we look at the papers, a man who's
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  Speaker 2: been doing Welcome to Countries for the past decade told
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  Speaker 2: he needs to stop because he's never proven his own
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  Speaker 2: aboriginality and apparently keeps inviting or welcoming rather the wrong
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  Speaker 2: indigenous groups. Plus students and then exclusive South Australian school
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  Speaker 2: expelled after setting fire to a rival schools jumper. All
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  Speaker 2: of that a little later, but first, former AFL champion
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  Speaker 2: turned Lord Meyrill campaigner Anthony Cooter Fides has announced his
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  Speaker 2: plan to revive Melbourne's ailing CBD free coffee now at
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  Speaker 2: least it's one coffee per person and only on a Monday.
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  Speaker 2: Is this a great idea or is it proof that
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  Speaker 2: AFL footballers should never be politicians. Have a look at
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  Speaker 2: his campaign advertisement here it is.
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  Speaker 1: A Calmton great promising to make Melbourne great a end.
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  Speaker 5: Well, where are the people right now?
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  Speaker 3: How many as sole missions?
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  Speaker 1: Isn't it really the safety the highlesses?
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  Speaker 4: Just over two months.
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  Speaker 6: Now?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but after that soul stirring
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  Speaker 2: campaign video, I was expecting a sort of a New
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  Speaker 2: York Rudy Giuliano style plan to get rid of graffiti,
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  Speaker 2: remove homeless people from the streets and really spruce up
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  Speaker 2: the place, crack down on crime. But instead Anthony Kudafines
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  Speaker 2: has announced this plan. I quote, most Melbournians love coffee
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  Speaker 2: and our cafes are renowned around the world for it.
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  Speaker 2: So for those that make the effort to come into
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  Speaker 2: the CBD on a Monday, we'll shout.
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  Speaker 3: You a coffee.
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  Speaker 2: Let's put smiles back on people's faces again. A free
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  Speaker 2: coffee can make a big, big difference. So you face
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  Speaker 2: with the choice of working from home, or you can
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  Speaker 2: battle the traffic, put up with the delays on public transport,
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  Speaker 2: you can navigate those annoying bike lanes. You can try
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  Speaker 2: and avoid the multiple protests that happen from time to
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  Speaker 2: time in the Melbourne CBD.
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  Speaker 3: Sell a kidney to avoid to.
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  Speaker 2: Rather pay for your parking step over homeless people on
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  Speaker 2: your way to the office.
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  Speaker 3: But the reward is you get a.
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  Speaker 2: Free flat white on a Monday. I think Carlton have
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  Speaker 2: more chain of winning the premiership this year than this
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  Speaker 2: plan being a success. And the way Victorian's finances are,
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  Speaker 2: I reckon it wouldn't be a barristo made coffee Lizen
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  Speaker 2: Caleb Instant.
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  Speaker 4: My mistake.
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  Speaker 7: Honestly, I so dislike these kind of gimmicky things because
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  Speaker 7: what it also says is I think you as ratepayers
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  Speaker 7: are stupid, Like who would fall for this? Like you say,
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  Speaker 7: who is going to trade in the convenience of staying home?
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  Speaker 1: And you left Outlourne.
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  Speaker 7: Sure I'm going to sit for eight hours in a
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  Speaker 7: soulless office under blinking fluorescent lights for eight hours.
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  Speaker 4: But I get a free coffee in the morning.
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  Speaker 8: I mean at least this guy has realized his jurisdiction here,
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  Speaker 8: because initially he and his campaign announced that they were
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  Speaker 8: going to work with the state government.
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  Speaker 4: To introduce laws to force.
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  Speaker 7: Anyone working for government, anyone working in corporate to be
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  Speaker 7: in the office at least.
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  Speaker 4: Four days a week.
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  Speaker 7: And then heard from the state government who was like, buddy,
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  Speaker 7: that that's not your job, that's our job if it's
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  Speaker 7: going to happen. So he's toned it down now and
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  Speaker 7: just said, okay, free coffee is once a week on
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  Speaker 7: a Monday. But honestly, who is going to trade in
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  Speaker 7: the convenience of working from home for a free coffee
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  Speaker 7: on the morning James James is girding out of bed.
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  Speaker 1: James looks interested. I reckon, you take the coffee.
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  Speaker 2: If it was my barista at Castle Towers shopping Center,
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  Speaker 2: I reckon I would.
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  Speaker 1: I would do it.
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  Speaker 3: Coffee.
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  Speaker 5: All I can say is that, to quote Jack Nicholson
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  Speaker 5: in As Good as It Gets, which is a fantastic film,
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  Speaker 5: if that did it for me, I'd be the luckiest
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  Speaker 5: guy alive. I mean, I imagine, oh yeah, I've been
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  Speaker 5: working from home all this time, and I'm finally going
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  Speaker 5: to go back into the office because I get a
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  Speaker 5: free coffee on a Monday for six months.
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  Speaker 1: It's a trial, right, six month trial that it would be.
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  Speaker 5: It kind of reminds me when people complain about you know,
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  Speaker 5: they're not recognized enough in the workplace and they really
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  Speaker 5: want to pay rise, but they haven't had one for
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  Speaker 5: three years and everyone's complaining to the boss. Look, you've
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  Speaker 5: got to do something here. We're not feeling that great.
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  Speaker 5: And then the boss is like, I know what's better
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  Speaker 5: than a pay rise. I'll buy you all pizzas on
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  Speaker 5: a Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: It's trying to bribe.
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  Speaker 5: People in the piddliest way possible to come back to
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  Speaker 5: the city.
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  Speaker 8: Now.
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  Speaker 5: Look, something has to be done because Melbourne CBD, if
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  Speaker 5: you look at the number of people going through it
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  Speaker 5: on the weekend, they actually have more people in the
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  Speaker 5: Melbourne CBD than they did pre pandemic. And during the
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  Speaker 5: week it's just totally empty. It's turned into more of
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  Speaker 5: an entertainment precinct and a shopping precinct for people on
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  Speaker 5: the weekend because they're at home during the week and
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  Speaker 5: they go well on the weekend, I want to get
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  Speaker 5: out of home for a while and go into the
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  Speaker 5: city and of course, you can't really support a CBD
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  Speaker 5: seven days a week on a two day economy, so
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  Speaker 5: he's throwing something out there. I suppose that's good, But
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  Speaker 5: is a coffee really going to turn the dial? I
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  Speaker 5: suppose you could say, pardon the pun, that it's worth
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  Speaker 5: a shot, boom boom, But really, I can't.
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  Speaker 4: Likes your dad joke. I can't see it.
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  Speaker 1: I can't see it doing it.
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  Speaker 4: Vager to last, but not least. It's not free.
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  Speaker 7: If the government tells you, whether their local, state or federal,
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  Speaker 7: that something is free, guess who's paying for it you. Now,
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  Speaker 7: last week we bought you the story that New South
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  Speaker 7: Wales Water had finally admitted, very quietly on their website
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  Speaker 7: that PIFAs otherwise known as forever chemicals, had been found
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  Speaker 7: in Sydney's water supply. Now this may have come as
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  Speaker 7: a big shock to a lot of people, given prior
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  Speaker 7: to that their official position was and I quote, there's
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  Speaker 7: no need.
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  Speaker 4: No, this isn't a direct quote. Hang on, I'm just
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  Speaker 4: going to paraphrase for them.
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  Speaker 7: They said there was no need to test pfas in
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  Speaker 7: the water supply because there's no known pfas in the
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  Speaker 7: water supply.
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  Speaker 4: Hot tip people, if you.
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  Speaker 7: Test for it, then you'll know whether there is any
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  Speaker 7: pfas in the water supply. This week we bring you
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  Speaker 7: a story that has told us damn in the Blue
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  Speaker 7: Mountains has.
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  Speaker 4: Been shut down.
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  Speaker 7: Why they found PFASs in it. They're very undecided what
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  Speaker 7: the source of these pfasts are.
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  Speaker 9: They just know that it's in there and they're on
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  Speaker 9: the job to find out why. Wen Day's today's statement, sorry,
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  Speaker 9: yesterday's statement from Water New South Wowes so they said
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  Speaker 9: this dam does not supply raw water directly, but as
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  Speaker 9: a precautionary measure, it has been disconnected from supply while
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  Speaker 9: further investigations are conducted. They said, Water New South Wales
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  Speaker 9: will keep the community informed as the investigation progresses and
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  Speaker 9: work closely with New Sowell's Health and Sydney Water to
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  Speaker 9: ensure drinking water remains safe. But of course we know
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  Speaker 9: here in Australia safe is a very relative term, since
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  Speaker 9: we learned in April, thanks to the brilliant work of
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  Speaker 9: Carrie Felner at the Sydney Morning Herald, who has been
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  Speaker 9: researching this for over a decade, that Australian drinking water
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  Speaker 9: allows a carcinogen speaking of pfas at one hundred and
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  Speaker 9: forty times the US rate.
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  Speaker 7: So the rate that our water people say, oh, found pfas,
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  Speaker 7: but it's perfectly fine, is a rate that the US says,
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  Speaker 7: that's one hundred and forty times over what we allow
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  Speaker 7: in ours. Keeping in mind their health authorities in the
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  Speaker 7: US have advised that there is no safe level of
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  Speaker 7: exposure to these chemicals. They are linked to cancer and
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  Speaker 7: a myriad of other health complications. Is the reason why
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  Speaker 7: the US believes it spends over two hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 7: billion dollars a year on the health side effects of
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  Speaker 7: p fas because these are forever chemicals, so whether they're
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  Speaker 7: being pumped out into the environment, we know that they're
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  Speaker 7: in our food, they're in our food packaging, they're in
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  Speaker 7: women's hygiene products. I mean, how many ways do you
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  Speaker 7: want to introduce these into our bodies.
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  Speaker 4: They're in band aids.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, let's not make the pfas do any work getting
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  Speaker 7: into your bloodstream. Let's just slap it straight on open wounds.
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  Speaker 7: And of course, the government is very reticent to do
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  Speaker 7: anything about this because it would require a lot of
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  Speaker 7: money a to clean up the waterways and other land
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  Speaker 7: that has been polluted by it, and B you have
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  Speaker 7: to cut it off at the source, don't you, which
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  Speaker 7: would mean putting your foot down on multiple billion dollar industries.
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  Speaker 7: So the government puts this in the too hard basket,
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  Speaker 7: and pfas experts across the world has said, this is
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  Speaker 7: the global emergency. Some one needs to do something because
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  Speaker 7: for as long as all these products are still being created,
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  Speaker 7: these chemicals don't break down in the environment, they don't
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  Speaker 7: break down in people's bodies.
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  Speaker 4: So the world is quite literally.
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  Speaker 7: Just going to keep compounding in chemicals. It's something that
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  Speaker 7: not many people know much about, and I'm just glad
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  Speaker 7: it's getting some recognition now that.
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  Speaker 2: There's three things that are really disturbing about this story.
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  Speaker 2: The first that you've mentioned is Ward in New South
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  Speaker 2: Wales only acted after the Sydney Morning Herald went on
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  Speaker 2: and on about this issue, and finals they acted and
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  Speaker 2: found there was an issue. The second problem, it's the
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  Speaker 2: story today tells that there are three fire stations within
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  Speaker 2: a two kilometer radius of the Cascade Water filtration plant
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  Speaker 2: where they've found higher levels there than in other parts
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  Speaker 2: of Sydney, and they haven't quite got around to checking
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  Speaker 2: those fire stations which are known to stock prefas chemicals,
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  Speaker 2: they haven't got around to checking whether there might be
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  Speaker 2: contamination coming from there. And then the third worry to
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  Speaker 2: me is that, as you said, the US have already
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  Speaker 2: said no exposure is appropriate, and the Australian authorities have said, well,
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  Speaker 2: we are going to review things. But that was a
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  Speaker 2: couple of months ago. You've got America has already done
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  Speaker 2: the hard work. They've already got the data, so it's
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  Speaker 2: not like Australian authorities have to start from scratch. They
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  Speaker 2: could determine very quickly what the danger is, what the
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  Speaker 2: measures to remediate the situation would be, and make a
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  Speaker 2: quick decision.
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  Speaker 1: Australia's so far behind the eight ball here.
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  Speaker 5: And I love the idea that you wouldn't test for
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  Speaker 5: something because you didn't believe it was there. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I look forward to every oncologist in the country now
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  Speaker 5: applying that to cancer.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I'm not going.
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  Speaker 5: To run any tests to see whether you've got cancer,
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  Speaker 5: because as far as I'm aware, there's no cancer in
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  Speaker 5: your body. I will just leave that up to chance
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  Speaker 5: and figure that out further down the line. And then
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  Speaker 5: of course when they do the test they find that
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  Speaker 5: the cancer is there, or in this case, they discovered
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  Speaker 5: that the PFAS is there. And I don't see how
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  Speaker 5: governments can possibly suggest that it's not worth testing for
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  Speaker 5: because governments have already paid compensation to people whose properties
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  Speaker 5: have been infected by PFAS. And you talk about fire stations,
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  Speaker 5: because where this has sort of been talked about for
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  Speaker 5: the last few years is a around fire stations and airports,
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  Speaker 5: particularly defense force baces, because it's been used in firefighting
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  Speaker 5: foam for a long time. And so if you've got
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  Speaker 5: a property next to a raft base or next to
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  Speaker 5: a firefighting station, et cetera, there's a high likelihood that
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  Speaker 5: there is PFAS in your soil, high concentrations of it,
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  Speaker 5: and that's already been found. The government has paid out,
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  Speaker 5: the federal government hundreds of millions of dollars in compensation
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  Speaker 5: to landowners whose land has been infected by PFAS, So
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  Speaker 5: they already know it exists, They already know it's leached
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  Speaker 5: into the land in certain parts of the country. Why
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  Speaker 5: would they then not automatically assume that it is leaking
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  Speaker 5: into the water table and into the waterways and into
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  Speaker 5: dams and think, well, yes, we do actually have to
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  Speaker 5: do the testing because of course it's there.
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  Speaker 7: Like chemicals supposed to go, that's just it.
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  Speaker 4: You find going for them.
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  Speaker 7: You can't eradicate them, so they have to go somewhere.
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  Speaker 7: And massive companies like the billion dollar behemoth of three
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  Speaker 7: M located in the States. There's an entire docco and
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  Speaker 7: this called how to Poison a Planet. They were sued
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  Speaker 7: to within an inch of their lives because it was
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  Speaker 7: shown that for decades they knew that this stuff was
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  Speaker 7: highly poisonous, highly toxic. There were people around the base,
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  Speaker 7: living and working, going to school who were dropping dead
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  Speaker 7: of cancer. In one school, over twenty kids died because
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  Speaker 7: all their waterways were highly highly poisoned with this stuff.
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  Speaker 4: So the thing that.
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  Speaker 7: Gets me more than anything else is these companies know
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  Speaker 7: that they are manufacturing these products, even tea bags with
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  Speaker 7: using pfas, and they don't need to.
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  Speaker 4: This is the twenty first century.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, come on, you know how to make women's
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  Speaker 7: hygiene products, any product that you want to name without
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  Speaker 7: using these highly toxic chemicals that are basically microdoise dosing
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  Speaker 7: people with poison on a daily basis. And the government
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  Speaker 7: we can talk about doing a cleanup of the waterways
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  Speaker 7: and all the rest of it.
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  Speaker 4: But until you cut it off at the source.
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  Speaker 7: Those PIFAs are being consumed by us, inhaled by us,
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  Speaker 7: and yes, even in our drinking water.
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  Speaker 1: I reckon.
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  Speaker 5: The next thing they need to do is test the
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  Speaker 5: land around McLaren Vale, because if it's getting into the
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  Speaker 5: vines around there and then making it into the wine
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  Speaker 5: that I'm drinking every day, I am exceedingly concerned about.
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  Speaker 5: We've talked this week about the fact that the federal government,
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  Speaker 5: the Albanezi government, has done something good for once. They're
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  Speaker 5: cracking down on foreign students. They're reducing the intake er
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  Speaker 5: at least halting the intake and telling universities that they
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  Speaker 5: must take fewer international students. And good on them, because
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  Speaker 5: we know what a cash cow it has been for
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  Speaker 5: universities that don't really care the service they provide. They
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  Speaker 5: just want the money. And the other thing that the
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  Speaker 5: federal government did last week was to get rid of
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  Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty tertiary education outfits and these registered
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  Speaker 5: training organizations TAFE type organizations that have been set up
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  Speaker 5: supposedly as ghost outfits. Now, the way this works is
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  Speaker 5: that someone sets up a registered training organization. Someone from
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  Speaker 5: overseas then applies for a student visa to come out
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  Speaker 5: to Australia, which is given to them, and then this
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  Speaker 5: registered training organization provides them no training whatsoever. It is
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  Speaker 5: a scam to get people into the country Illegitimately, well
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  Speaker 5: one hundred and forty of those outfits have had their
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  Speaker 5: contracts ripped up and sor one hundred and fifty of
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  Speaker 5: them have been ripped up. Now one hundred and forty
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  Speaker 5: have been put on notice. But there's the question now
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  Speaker 5: of what about all the students quote unquote they're not
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  Speaker 5: actually students that were allowed into the country through these
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  Speaker 5: dodgy outfits that are still here.
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  Speaker 1: Surely they should be deported.
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  Speaker 5: And this has been pointed out by a few economists
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  Speaker 5: and others today. Leith van Nonsulin, who you often see
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  Speaker 5: here on Sky News's and the chief economist at Macro Business,
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  Speaker 5: he said, shouldn't the operators of the ghost colleges be
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  Speaker 5: punished and the fake students who enrolled in them deported?
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  Speaker 5: There need to be consequences for deliberately abusing Australia's visa system.
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  Speaker 5: Melanie McFarlane, she's the chair of Immigration Consultants of Australia.
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  Speaker 5: She said there's still a feeling that some of these
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  Speaker 5: colleges are managing to operate. You get the dodgy operators
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  Speaker 5: working with dodgy agents. It's always been like that and
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  Speaker 5: it's gone on for years and the whole sector now
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  Speaker 5: seems to be penalized for a few dodgy operators. She
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  Speaker 5: says that they open up ASQA, that's the Australian Skills
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  Speaker 5: Quality Authority. They come in, they close them down, or
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  Speaker 5: they try to, but then they go to the tribunal,
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  Speaker 5: thereby extending their life in the country. There's been so
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  Speaker 5: much talk about closing ghost colleges. It's not that it's
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  Speaker 5: about making them harder to open, and yes that is correct.
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  Speaker 5: It would be better to not have them open in
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  Speaker 5: the first place, so you then don't have to clean
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  Speaker 5: the issue up later on. But surely these mean they're
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  Speaker 5: probably not kids, they'd be young adults. Have come in
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  Speaker 5: under false pretenses. They should be on the first plane
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  Speaker 5: out of the country. There's clearly a massive loophole here
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  Speaker 5: that is being used to abuse. To make your way
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  Speaker 5: into the country under illegitimate means, send them.
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  Speaker 3: Away that the numbers are quite astonishing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean two hundred and ninety colleges, the one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty that have been shut down, one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: forty that have been warned, how you need to start
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  Speaker 2: holding classes otherwise we'll revoke your license. How have that
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  Speaker 2: many colleges of dubious quality approved in the first place.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: The problem caleb with tracking down these people who've gotten
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: here clearly under false pretenses with student visas, but they're
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: not students because there's no classes. The former Department Secretary
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: of the Immigration Department, Abil Risby, I think I've got
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: his name correct here. The problem is the resources in
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: the department are not sufficient to track down what amount
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: two thousands of people who are here on visas of
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: dubious qualities.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: And even when they give.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Them a notice that we're going to deport you, invariably
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: they'll apply for protection visas because most of the people
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: that apply to these ghost colleges are from countries that
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: are high risk i e. People overstaying their visas, being
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: here for dubious means.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: So the chances of.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: These people being deported is quite small. And the other
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: point here that's interesting is we're not for the housing crisis.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: I don't think we'd be talking about this.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: It's only because of the housing crisis that the focuses
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: come on international students. This has been happening for a
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: long time. It's continued to happen. It's only the housing
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: crisis that suddenly focused everybody on an issue that should
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: have been a big issue previously.
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah, because suddenly labor wants to be seen as doing
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: something about the housing crisis, so they're trying a double triple,
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: quadruple pronged method.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: But this obviously needs doing.
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: Kudos to them for actually doing something about it. Apparently
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: there's eight hundred of these VET companies or institutions like
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: you just said, I mean over a quarter of them
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: have just either been chucked in the bin or given notice.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: That notice being until December.
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: If you don't start classes up again by resume classes
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: presuming that they.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Used to run them. If you don't resume.
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: Them by September, you're closed come twenty twenty five. But
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: like you said, we've now seen this up tick in
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: onshore refugee applications as these students get busted and then
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: say well can I stay I'm claiming asylum, but given
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: like you said, Caleb, they already come here in a
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: dodgy way. It's not like, oh, poor students, you guys
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: were doaded. You thought you were legitimately coming here to study.
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: It turns out that institution was lying to you. No,
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: the ones that have been shut down were shut down
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: because they were shown to not have been running any
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: training for twelve months or more. So those students, there
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: is no way in heck that they were just blissfully unaware.
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: They've come here, they haven't done any study, and now
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: the government's cranking challege should absolutely be deported. But I
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: don't know what it is with this government, and most
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: governments for that matter, they never want to deport anyone
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: when the people are like, we literally came here to
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: rot the city.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Legal system is set up so that there's so many
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: steps they can take before they're ever removed from the country.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: It's money, it's time, it's resources.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Like it's just.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Easier for governments to just say, oh, well.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: But if you wanted to apply for asylum because you
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: were worried about the country you'd come from, just apply
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: for asylum in the first place. Don't come here under
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: false pretenses. And that's why they ought to be deported.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Even if you have.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: Concerns about the country, they're going back to you broke
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: the rules to enter the country in the first place,
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: so surely you've already proved yourself to be a person
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: of bad character, and on that basis, you don't get
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: to stay, even if you've applied for asylum.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: You know, afterwards, it seems a bit ridiculous to me.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of ridiculous, the government continue going on about
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: misinformation and disinformation, and so the Labor government have established
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: a portal whereby.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: People can report fake news.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: But it's backfired spectacularly because people have started submitting examples
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: of the Labor Party's campaign advertisements and advertising for fact checking.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: The ALP website portal asks people to fight lives and
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: fake news by submitting examples, and they've been absolutely overwhelmed
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: by examples that Labor politicians have been tweeting out. During
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: the nuclear argument, particularly, we had ridiculous memes from Labor
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: politicians such as you see on screen, and so people
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: have been submitting these examples of fake news and lies
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: to the Labor Party fact checkers. Since the Labor Party
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: is so concerned about misinformation and disinformation. I'm not sure
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: this fact checking portal will continue. It might just be
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: quietly removed.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Might be removed.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I'll be quicker to get rid of that than they
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: will Dodgy Visa.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Oh well, it's a lot easier just to take a
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: portal off the web. This reminds me of when Scotland.
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: Passed those hate speech laws and then got slammed with
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: thousands of complaints of the own the government's own racism,
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: which they defined as hate speech, given their own Prime
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: Minister had given that infamous white there's all these white people,
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: all the bureaucracy is white here in Scotland, and people
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: were pointing out the fact. Hang on a minute, you
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: guys have classified hate speech in this country and you've
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: fallen foul a lot of times yourself.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: So I love the trolls. Keep it coming.
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: Australians like, doesn't that just make you happy?
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: I know it's great, isn't it. But don't forget that.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: You know this is just some Labor Party website, right,
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: it's not an official thing, but the government actually wants
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: to part part pass. I wish they would part with it,
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: just send it off into the ether. They want to
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: pass misinformation disinformation laws that would put Akma in charge
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: of deciding whether or not things that people post online
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: and we say here on television are misinformation and disinformation, etcetera.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: So the government has now had a.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: Little taste of how this could go. Maybe you should
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: pass the misinformation disinform No, don't even and then and then,
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: much like in Scotland, we can just send in everything
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: politicians say and get at to rule on that just
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: jam up the servers, jam up the system. Had the
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: bureaucrats going one hundred miles an hour working out whether
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: when Anthony Alberizi said he'd take two hundred and seventy
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: five dollars off your power bill, that was misinformation.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: And the problem with your plan is when there's complaints
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: about us with misinformation, we pay the lawyer fees, and
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: when we complain about the governor misinformation, we pay the
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: lawyer fees.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: So that's where that plan fulls down.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: And also they make the rules.
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: So of course, and we know that the government isn't
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: included in the misinformation disinformation billings or you and me,
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: it's the media, it's everybody, but the government. They can
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: still say whatever they like to the US now where
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: Kamala Harris, in her run for president, has suddenly become.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: A fan of a border wall.
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: You've got to see this to believe this. Remember she
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: labeled Trump's idea of a wall on the border to
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: stop illegal migrants from star hurry into the US. She
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: labeled it disgusting, it was racist, it was every kind
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: of isam under the sun.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: She has done the most spectacular.
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: One eighty saying that she will in fact sign into
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: effect the very bill that means that the wall would
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: be finished. She even included in her presentation on this
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: pictures of the unfinished wall, saying that she would complete it.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: I just cannot believe this.
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: And the media has been largely completely silent about this.
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: I mean, speaking of a massive backflip. I have not
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: seen something this huge in a long time.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: Because she was so vocal about it at the time.
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: And of course she has been the Biden administrations border
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: czar or czar arena for all those pronoun people out
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: there for years now, done a patently dismal job, obviously,
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: and now she's said as president, she'll build the wall.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: I think she's incredible.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Read the New York Post, which had statistics showing thirty
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: five percent of Americans believe the southern border is the
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: number one issue, and fifty three percent of Americans actually
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: support a wall, So hence the backflip.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: But I mean, it's hard to keep up with us politics.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: We were told Joe Biden was so bad he couldn't
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: possibly be their candidate. Now we're told he's an historic
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: president who should be on Mount Rushmore.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: We're told Biden was.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Mentally incapable of running again, but he's not so incapable
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: that he can't continue with the nuclear codes right now.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: We were told Kamala her annoying cackle. It's not an
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: annoying cackle, it's joy. And she's not ditzy. She's just
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: got the common touch. And she's not against the wall.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: She's for the wall. These policies that there were nothing
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: to do with her. It's not like she's been the
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: vice president for the past four years. It's almost like
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: she's running against herself. She allowed all these migrants to
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: flood into the country, and now she's saying, I'm going
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: to fix it, as if she had nothing to do
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: with the problem at all.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: As she's saying about everything she said, we're going to
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: make everything better. We're going to make everything better. What
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: have you been doing for the last four years? You're
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: the vice president right now to do it now?
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Exactly exactly.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: But of course, you know, she doesn't have much record
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: of anything herself to talk about, which is why, as
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: we said the other night, she talks incessantly about when
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: she was a prosecutor because she can't really talk about
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: what she did as vice president. But you know, you'd
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: imagine Kamala Harris has managed to, I don't know, turn
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: on the TV and just see what's going on around
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: the US. I was saying months ago that the one
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: thing that could could sink Biden terribly and was going
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: to eventually cause him.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: To do a backflip.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: Of course, he didn't actually have to do the backflip
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: in the end because he was replaced by Kamala was
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: the border, because the tide was starting to turn. And
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: if she's turned on the TV, she's seeing things like this.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: For instance, this is allegedly a gang of illegal Venezuelans
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: in the US taking over an entire apartment building. And
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: these illegal migrants have become so lazy that after you know,
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: cloring their way over the border, they've got past ice,
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: and they've gone through barbed wire fences and whatever. They
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: couldn't possibly walk any further distance, so they're now hitching
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: a ride on school buses.
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: A group of migrants tried to board a school bus
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: this morning while it was traveling to a school. The
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: superintendent for the Homol de Alzourra Union School District and
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: formed parents of that incident earlier today. It happened at
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: one of the stops on the school district's bus route
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: that heads to Oak Grove Middle School and Primary. Meanwhile,
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: yesterday afternoon, in a similar area along another route, the
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: superintendent says that a group of migrants tried to stop
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: another bus. Border Patrol CHP in the Sheriff's office have
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: now been informed of these incidents. The superintendent says that
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: for the safety of everyone, if a driver sees a
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: group of migrants at a bus stop, they will drive
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: past it on and move on to the next It was.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Just a matter of time before she decided to do
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: something about it.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: And don't forget.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: I think it was back in twenty fourteen that there
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: was a bill put up under Obama's presidency that was
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: sponsored by Chuck Schumer. To start building order fences. What
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: an idea? Then, when Trump said he was going to
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: do it, Oh no, no, no, we couldn't possibly have that.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: All the Democrats are back on board with it.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: How good is that.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: Let's stick in the US, where the FBI is continuing
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: their investigation of sorts into the attempted.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Assassination of Trump.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: I say of sorts because well, they're not really uncovering much.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: I mean, this has been going on for what the
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: better part of two months now, and they still haven't
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: been able to find a motive for why this kid
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: tried to shoot at Trump. But they have now decided
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: perhaps he was going to go for Biden as well.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Can you believe it? They've been going through his computers and.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: They've decided that he showed a sustained, detailed effort to
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: plan an attack on some event. Now you know, that
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: could be Biden, that could be Trump because apparently he
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: was looking up the details of Biden events as well.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: Who knows, he was just looking for someone to shoot
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Trump just happened to be the one who was closest,
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: the earliest, according to what the FBI has found so far,
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: the search terms they found on his computer he looked up,
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: where will Trump speak from at Butler Farm Show?
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I would have thought on the podium.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: Butler Farm Show podium was the next he looked up
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: and Butler Farm Show photos. He was also a bit
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: concerned about the weather, apparently as the event drew close,
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: so he was looking up what the forecast was going
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: to be, because God forbid, you wouldn't want to try
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: to assassinate someone in the rain, would you. I mean,
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: how can the FBI possibly have still not worked out
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: what the motive was to try and shoot at the
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: former president could be the next president of the United States.
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: It kind of reminds you this investigation of this scene
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: from the jerk.
• 31:39
  Speaker 10: Hey, Harry, like as, what's the matter with these camps? Yuh, nothing,
• 31:51
  Speaker 10: These cans are defective. They're springing league. Come over here
• 31:55
  Speaker 10: and look at that. Listen, you better d for Cobo.
• 31:58
  Speaker 10: You're gonna spring a league. Ah, we don't have defector camp.
• 32:01
  Speaker 10: We have a defective point on there. He hates these camps.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Stay away from that cam.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: Jeez, you have a lot of confidence, don't you know?
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: This is six weeks ago that he shot at Trump
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: and they still haven't worked oud way tried to do.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: It forty seven days since an assassin's bullet hit Trump
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: in the side of the head, and they're completely clueless.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, all we've learned is that he had a
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: social media account where he was a bit anti Semitic,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: a bit anti immigration, a little bit of political violence.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: But that's really all. They've interviewed a thousand people and
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: really can't discern any motive. But you know, he might
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: as well, as you said, have hit Biden or Trump,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: you know, whichever. I think they've seen the mileage that
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Trump has got out of this assassination attempt. For about
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: five minutes after the assassination attempt, everybody was, you know, wow,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump really could have died. He was quite heroic
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: in the way he handled it. His poll numbers rose.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: And so now the FBI telling us, wow, Trump's not special.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: It could have been Biden just as easily. So Trump
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: deserves no credit. Clearly, that's what's going on here.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: I just can't believe that anyone's listening to the FBI.
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: This is the same FBI the earlier this week we
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: were talking about pressured Zuckerberg to limit the reach, well
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: just outright censor the story about Hunter Biden's laptop. They said, hey,
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: it's just Russian disinformation. Make sure that it's not on
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: your platforms type thing. Zuckerberg now regrets working with them.
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: But this is the same FBI who raided Trump's Murre
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: Lago home and staged photo ops with these Manila folders
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: saying top secret and all the rest of it. It
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: came out months later after they denied it.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, actually we did set that up. That was a
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: bit of a photoshop. Not a photoshop, but a photo
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: op for us at the FBI.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: This is ai lethal force on that radars.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: Check in the door. You can kill any one you want.
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: This is the same FBI that had egg all over
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: their face after they were finally forced to give up
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: the actual footage of January sixth, Remember the insurrection that
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: showed security guards shaking hands and basically showing through these
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: rioters through the Capitol building as if.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: It was just some sort of walk through tour. You
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: have to remember that footage.
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: We showed it to you on this show, and it
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: was it went around the world. This is the same
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: FBI who couldn't figure out, for the life of them
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: where the crack cocaine and the white house where that
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: might have come from, the most secure building in the
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: entirety of the United States of America.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: We just don't know where this crack cocaine came from.
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: And it has nothing to do with the fact that
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: Hunter Biden was here this weekend.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: I could go on for an hour without drawing breath.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: These guys have zero credibility, and.
• 34:58
  Speaker 7: In fact, the second they say it's something, I'm like, well,
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: process of elimination, I know it ain't that. Indeed, also,
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: you've got to give me back my copy of Tom
• 35:08
  Speaker 7: O'Neill's book Chaos. Once you read that, you will never
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: listen to a word the CIA or FBI, ever.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Says again, lizill learn it to you as soon as
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I'm done with it, before we go to a break.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: The Albanezi government have shelved plans to include questions about
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: people's sexual preferences in the twenty twenty six census because
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: they want to maintain social cohesion. Treasurer Jim Chalmers said
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: that questions about LGBTQ would be ditched from the census
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: because he wanted to avoid nastiness. Here's the treasurer, but.
• 35:41
  Speaker 11: The census itself is an until twenty twenty six, and
• 35:45
  Speaker 11: so our goal here has been to try and avoid
• 35:49
  Speaker 11: some of the nastiness that sometimes accompanies that in the
• 35:52
  Speaker 11: lead up to the census.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: There's two things about this government that really worry me.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: One is it's impossible to figure out what.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: They really believe.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: If you believe LGBTQ people are really important, we need
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: that data included in the census. If you don't think
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: it's necessary, say so. So you can't work at what
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: they believe. And they clearly have no confidence in their
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: ability to have a conversation with the public or to
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: get their point across, so they fall back on this
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: social cohesion, which is exactly what they did with the
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: religious discrimination bill. We still don't know what they believe
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: about that. They just said, well, we don't want to
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: have any nastiness, so we better.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Not talk about it.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: It's just gutless from this government, who are managerial rather
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: than leaders.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Where would the nastiness come from?
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: Are they worried that maybe if we include the question
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: in the census, and I think it should be in
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: the census because it's an exercise of working out where
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: the population is out and who makes up the population.
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: Surely that's a sort of question you would put in
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: the census. Are they worried that perhaps we'll see there's
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: been a marked rise in LGBTQ people in the last
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: five odd years and then we might start wondering why
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: is that? And that's questions that the government doesn't want
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: to answer.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Where we're going to go to a break.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: When we come back, look at what's making news tomorrow,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: including students from an exclusive South Australian school expelled after
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: setting fire to a rival school sports jersey.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: It's coming up in a moment. Welcome back.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Let's take a look at what's making front page news tomorrow.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: We'll start with an interesting story on the front page
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: of the Adelaide Advertiser. Black Friars reads the headline, which
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: is a pun on the name of the school. It
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: refers to black Friars as in friarsa How would you
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: define a Friars?
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: That's like a monk, right, Yeah, I think it's in
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: the day.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Blackfriars, not the one you put your chips in, correct,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: that's the pun.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Let me continue.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Blackfriars School has expelled students who hoisted a rival school
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: sports jacket on a stick and set fire to it
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: last week after a football match. Police have been called
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: over the stunt, which was labeled shameful by the all
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: boys Adelaide Private School. The school principle, in announcing what
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: had been done to parents wrote, and I quote the
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: gravity of their actions cannot be overstated, which feels like
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: a little bit of an overstatement. I think the situation
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: was that the boys at Blackfriars Priory School had beaten
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: a rival school for the first time in eight years,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: and high school boys being high school boys, decided to
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: celebrate by burning the rival schools sports jersey on a stick.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Appropriate expelworthy, I think.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: So.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Remember these are kids in Caleb, you would understand this,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: who probably just a couple of weeks ago went to
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Adelaide Oval to watch the Port Power versus the Adelaide Crows,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: where there was all sorts of carry on. So the
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: crosstown rivalry is big. Yeah, this is football, they're boys.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Maybe a slap on the wrist, But to get expelled
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: for that, no one died.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: It wasn't like it was the Atralian flag.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: They went and saw thunder the Port Power mascot get
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: punched in the face by some kid, but you know,
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: you get suspended for a week or something. It's a
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: bit naff I get that it's not a great look
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: for the school, but in the grand scheme of things,
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: they set a jumper on fire, and it's one thing
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: for the school to expel the kids, which I think
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: is way way over the top. But the police have
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: been called out. What have the police been called in for?
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: I didn't know it was an offense to burn a jumper.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: What are the police going to do about it?
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: Maybe they're going to find out that, you know, they
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: did it in an area during a you know, no
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: fire zone or something, and so they.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Broke the law. Like, what are the police going to
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: do about it?
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: We should point out this was not on school property,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: this was off site.
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: That, oh what is That makes it even more ridiculous.
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: I genuinely have no problem with this whatsoever. Nobody was hurt.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: This wasn't send me a signal that they were going
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: to burn the school down. Honestly, if I was one
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: of their mums, I'd just be.
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: Like, that's that's extreme and kind of funny, But okay,
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: do you reckon?
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: They're worried about the carbon emissions.
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: For this principle to say, quote he was deeply grieved
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: end quote.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, buddy, do me a favor.
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: What happened to boys will be boys? I'm a massive
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: fan of boys will be boys. They won against this
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: team for the first time in eight years, and they
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: were like, Lol, let's grab one of their.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: Jackets, hoist it and burn it. That was their way
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: of celebrating. And they're too young to drink. So what
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: would you rather than do? I think it was fine.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Do you think some of the context.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: There's a school Pembroke, which is a very exclusive school,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: and they were in the news a week or two
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: ago because some of the boys had made some inappropriate
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: lists about how they would judge the girls in the
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: school that hit the media.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Do you think this school is now reacting?
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we better show us so.
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: I think they're a bit titchy at the moment, but serious,
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: Like you know, they said a jumper on fire to
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: think that, you know, these kids who did something a
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: little bit stupid have had their entire school year derailed
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: by that. I think he's a little bit over the top.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: Let's go to the Daily Telegraph tomorrow, but it says
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: you're not welcome Indigenous ceremony row over ancestry. A Sydney
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: Aboriginal Land Council is demanding a resident, so he's conducting
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: welcome to country ceremonies, claiming he has failed to prove
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: his indigenous ancestry. This bloke, you can see him there
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: on the front of the paper, Neil Evers. He says
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: that he is a fifth generation Aboriginal. He's been doing
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: these ceremonies on the Northern Beaches in Sydney.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: For about a decade now.
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: But the land Council says that he's acknowledged the wrong
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: Aboriginal people at an event and provided no proof of
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: his aboriginality.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't think you.
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: Had to provide proof of your aboriginality, although you just identify.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: That was my first thought as well.
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: I will never forget the Senate committee in which Senator
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: Alex Antik was trying to establish Okay, so how does
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: one prove acclaim that they are from indigenous heritage?
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: Since there's all.
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: Kinds of I don't want to call them handouts, but
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: whatever handouts for Indigenous Aussies to give them a head start,
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: get them into UNI, whatever the case may be.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: So how do I.
• 42:24
  Speaker 7: Prove that I'm indigenous if I'm in indigenous, and these guys.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: Just tripped over themselves.
• 42:29
  Speaker 7: It was the most painful twenty minutes and they still
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: hadn't come up with anything comprehensive. I mean, hats off
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: to nilmatee here, because we know that you're paid quite
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: handsomely for these.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: Welcome to countries.
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: On the kid, he's just gone, like, you know what,
• 42:45
  Speaker 7: I might as well cash in.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: Get going while the going's good.
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: Goodness knows how much he's made off this, and.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: We're just going on the front page. So I don't
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: understand all the context. So this is pure speculation. But
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: if he's been doing this for a decade, he's kind
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: of got the mats sewn up right. So the easiest
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: way if you wanted the slice of that action, oh,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: I asked question his say, indigenous credentials, and there you go.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I want to be his manager.
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: I read he sounds great, thought I do have to
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: point out, sorry for being Pernicotti, it's welcomes to country,
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: not welcome to countries for all the for kel Richards,
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: if you're watching, and I know you're watching, I just
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: had to do it for you.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: Did you just correct yourself.
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, I didn't say welcome to countries. You said
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: welcome to countries, and you said it at the top
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: of the program as well. In the paper it said
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: welcome to country ceremonies. But the plural of welcome to
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: countries welcomes to countries.
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: Oh well, my quality of life knowing that little tit
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: bit of information just shot through the road.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Don't know about you.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: The language matters, defend the English language to the.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Run page of the oars.
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: Now Fair Works reckless adventurism on working from home. Employers
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: have accused the Fair Work Commission of reckless adventurism, slamming
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: its decision to examine giving clerical staff the legal right
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: to request to work from home in a case that
• 44:05
  Speaker 7: we'll set a precedent for the remote work rules to
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: apply to millions of workers. Well, well, well, how have
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: the clerics found themselves in the middle of this?
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: How did they not know that Kurdafides was going to
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: give out free coffees in Melbourne.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: This isn't a problem.
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: Anymore, everyone's going to be going back into work.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: But you know, I it does.
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: Worry me if we get to a point where it
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: becomes sort of an enshrined right to be able to
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: work from home. Surely that is a decision to be
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: made between employer and employee. And a lot of people now,
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: I'm sure when they go for a new job or
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: they renegotiate their contract, have this stuff written into their contract.
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: But they's a discussion for you to have with your boss,
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: not for the government or the Fair Work Commission or
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: anyone else to say, is your right to work from home?
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: If the boss wants you in the office or at
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: your workplace, surely they should be able to have you there.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: Because what do we end up saying the checkout chick
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: wants to work from home?
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, how do you enshrine that right?
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: If you can find a checkout chickt will he s
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: doing very very well. I think she is working from home.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the Townsville bulletin, No trust in You,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: reads the headline. Counselors fiery spray at mayor. Mayor Troy
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Thompson's bid for a political advisor who could be paid
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy five thousand salary unanimously rejected shock surprise,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: with one councilor firing up over the mayor's proposal to
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: directly appoint the role for context a political advisor on
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: the Townsville Council getting one hundred and seventy five grand
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: will counselors are only paid I think it's one hundred
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: and fifty three grand, and the deputy mayor is not
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: paid as much as this political advisor was to be paid.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: What kind of council is this? When I was a counselor,
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: I was paid a fraction.
• 45:49
  Speaker 7: They have much, much bigger counsel Yeah, yeah, sure.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: But that is just hilarious.
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: Can I just say, Mayor Troy Thompson, I've worked in state,
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: federal and local government and no political advisor know me,
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: is worth one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know what I was always.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: I don't know what sort of money you were getting
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: back in the day, but I know that about at
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: the moment. In South Australia, if you're a media advisor
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: in the state government, like a top level media advisor,
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: you get about one hundred and forty So to get
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: one hundred and seventy five in a council, No.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: It's not bad money. We're going to go to a
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: break when we come back.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Thieves caught on CCTV robbing from a Queensland home. They
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: got in through the doggie door will show you that
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: in a moment.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: Stick with us.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Well, you've heard of the flying kangaroo, and if I
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: used that phrase, you would immediately think of quantus, right,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: But the flying kangaroo is actually a kangaroo. A couple
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: of landscape gardeners in Melbourne's North were just going about
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: their business when a kangaroo bounded past and then lipped
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: right over a one point eight meter boundary fence. One
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: of the landscapers, have a look at this incredible footage.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: That is gold medal winning high jump right there now.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: As I said, the fence was one point eight meters.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Kangaroos apparently can jump three meters. That rooted very well
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: the landscape gardener. He sent this photo to his dad,
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: and his dad got the photo and said and message
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: back saying that's not really you're lying.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: What are you doing slacking off at work?
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: And it was only when this guy sent his dad
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: the video that his father can we see that photo
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: one more time? That is an incredible photograph of.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: That Kangaroo's pretty good. He would not believe that was real.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: It totally looks photoshot. He does land him in the
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: sky there.
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: But remember Reagan the breakdancer at the Olympics.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: How famed Alien breakdancer did a.
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: Move called the rou and she said went went like this, right,
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: we should have just sent this bloody kangaroo to the Olympics.
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: Go to the breakdancing, go to the high jump, to
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: the pole vaulting.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: He could have won the whole bloody lot for Australia.
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: I don't think you get points for jumping. It's all
• 48:18
  Speaker 7: about being low and twisting around and brains.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure he could do a bit of that
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: You know, look if reagun he'd have my vote breakdancer.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: But before we.
• 48:28
  Speaker 7: Leave you tonight, old mate has been caught trying to
• 48:31
  Speaker 7: break into a property and park ridge using.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: The doggy door. Check out this footage.
• 48:37
  Speaker 7: My goodness, you wonder how big their dog must be
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: because that looks gindorbous.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: What kind of dog do you want to have a
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: dog door that big?
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: I'm sure anyone who also has a large dog is
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: thinking twice about their dog door.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: He easily fits through. Where's the dog?
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: I know?
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: I having a dog.
• 48:56
  Speaker 7: He's probably just fedets and stay or something and is
• 49:01
  Speaker 7: like ambling in.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: But how easy is this.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what.
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: If you are small enough to be able to get
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: through a doggy door. This is why I've said we
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: can't raise the age of criminal responsibility, because every kid
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: in the country will be going through doggy doors raiding people.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: Fashion have hit it, we've inspired it.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Listen before you go to bed to make sure you
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: lock your doggie door, but.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Don't go to bed yet.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Coming up is The Reader Penney Show.