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ABC's Jonathan Karl is a liar · Tony Katz | Popcorn Moment

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  Speaker 2: It's a story you need here to believe. Then grab
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  Speaker 2: your popcorn because there is more.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, the shutdown is Oh what was it? Forty three
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  Speaker 1: days of.
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  Speaker 2: Absolute nonsense, of unnecessary shutdown, of children not being fed,
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  Speaker 2: of people not being.
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  Speaker 1: Paid, and Democrats wanted it to continue.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, Oh, they tried some last minute antics there,
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  Speaker 2: did Hakeem Jeffries. They tried all the last minute shenanigans
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  Speaker 2: about extending subsidies for the Affordable Care Act, which clearly
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  Speaker 2: isn't affordable. I would share with you the audio of
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  Speaker 2: Hakeem Jeffries calling it the Republican healthcare crisis, but that's
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  Speaker 2: just boring and nonsense and garbage, and I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it needs to be shared.
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  Speaker 1: He said it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't need to share the audio, but you know
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  Speaker 2: he said it, so we could just move on from there.
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  Speaker 1: But this was a take John carl from ABC on
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  Speaker 1: with Stephen.
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  Speaker 2: Colbert, because where else is he gonna go? And this
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  Speaker 2: is his take on the shutdown. Now, John Carl, I believe,
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  Speaker 2: for a while led the White House Correspondence Association.
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  Speaker 1: John Carley journalist.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I would like for that to be the case,
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  Speaker 2: but with stuff like this, I now have to look.
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  Speaker 1: At it suspect and people can disagree with me.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, Democrat senators are dealing with the fallout of having
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  Speaker 3: voted with Republicans to end the shutdown.
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  Speaker 1: Have you that doesn't help now, but thank you.
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  Speaker 2: So first things first, there's the audience saying it was
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  Speaker 2: wrong to end the shutdown. They wanted air traffic controllers
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  Speaker 2: not to get paid, they wanted kids not to get fed.
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  Speaker 2: That's the Colbert audience. I'm utilizing their words against them.
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  Speaker 2: I will not let anybody get angry with me. That's
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  Speaker 2: their problem. Maybe they should have been so cavalier saying
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  Speaker 2: that Donald Trump was going to let kids starve. They
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  Speaker 2: did this, they opened it up. I say, they're the
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  Speaker 2: ones who have to deal with it.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: You don't understand what I'm saying. Allow me to try
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  Speaker 2: and make it easier for you. They bought their tickets,
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  Speaker 2: they knew what they were getting into.
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  Speaker 1: I say, let them crash. Glad we hugged it out. Continue.
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  Speaker 3: Won't you have you talked with any of these eight senators?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I have.
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  Speaker 4: And I've also talked to senators who were against this
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  Speaker 4: and wanted to continue the fight and wanted to continue
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  Speaker 4: the shutdown and to force the Republicans to give in
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  Speaker 4: on healthcare, which.
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  Speaker 3: Was the stated goal slide Chuck Schumer and others like, We're.
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  Speaker 1: Kno going to back down.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to insist it.
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  Speaker 3: We have to make sure that we get the ACA subsidies.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they ultimately, But I got to tell you
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  Speaker 4: my conversations with senators who were technically opposed to this,
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  Speaker 4: Democrats were actually happy to see this ends. I mean
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  Speaker 4: that the shutdown had gone on for.
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  Speaker 1: Forty three days.
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  Speaker 4: They elevated this issue of the fact that for twenty
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  Speaker 4: plus million Americans, health insurance premiums are going to skyrocket
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  Speaker 4: on January first, and the Republicans showed no signs of
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  Speaker 4: giving in on this at all. Airports were ground to
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  Speaker 4: a halt, people were about to lose their food stamp benefits,
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  Speaker 4: and I think there was a feeling like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we've elevated the issue and it's time to move on.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lie, John Carl. You're lying right there.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lie, and you're a liar, and ABC has
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  Speaker 2: hired a liar who lies on air.
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  Speaker 1: I want to make sure I was clear about the
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  Speaker 1: liar and the lying in John Carl.
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  Speaker 2: Democrats don't feel like they elevated the issue and it
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  Speaker 2: was time to let it go. Your words said they
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  Speaker 2: wanted it to continue. Their words are they wanted to
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  Speaker 2: continue to continue. And there is now a concerted effort
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  Speaker 2: among some Democrats to push Chuck Schumer out of his
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  Speaker 2: leadership role. Do you think that's because everything went well
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  Speaker 2: and they elevated the issue and now it was time
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  Speaker 2: for everything to end and the shutdown to end.
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  Speaker 1: No, they're infuriated with the.
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  Speaker 2: Eight Democrats and the seven Democrats won independent who came
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  Speaker 2: over and voted with the Republicans.
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  Speaker 1: They were fighting it in the House of Representatives.
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  Speaker 2: There are six Democrats who came over to vote with
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  Speaker 2: the Republicans. Two Republicans voted with the Democrats. Thomas Massey
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  Speaker 2: was one of them. A Representative Stuby out of Florida
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  Speaker 2: was the other. They didn't want this to end. The
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  Speaker 2: Democrats didn't want this to end. And the everybody who
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  Speaker 2: just booed they were in favor of this continuing. John
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  Speaker 2: Carl is lying. John Carl is a liar. In his
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  Speaker 2: own words, he admits that he's lying. They wanted it
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  Speaker 2: to continue. And to Indiana Democrats, let me just be clear.
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  Speaker 2: All politics is about power. Now you say to me
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  Speaker 2: it shouldn't be, or say to me, how dare you
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  Speaker 2: say to me it's not true? What woo bo Democrats
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  Speaker 2: didn't want to feed children so they could do something else,
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  Speaker 2: and they wanted to utilize the shutdown and in a
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  Speaker 2: position of power in order to get the Republicans to
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  Speaker 2: do what they wanted to do. If Republicans in Indiana
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  Speaker 2: don't redistrict, they're out of their Holy damn minds. There
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  Speaker 2: is no argument against that I have found to be worthy.
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  Speaker 2: And I know there are people against, and well, I
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  Speaker 2: think they're wrong, and I'm going to continue to make
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  Speaker 2: my argument. Democrats have no issue with the discussion of
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  Speaker 2: power and the utilization of power. Yet when Republicans want
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  Speaker 2: to utilize power, then it's the end of the world.
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  Speaker 2: I say, nah, use the power, and if people don't
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  Speaker 2: like it, they'll vote you out. Now, if you say
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  Speaker 2: to me, who, I don't want to get voted out,
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  Speaker 2: I'm scared, I'm not gonna do anything.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we're going to vote you out for that too.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that you should just stand up and
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  Speaker 1: do Now, if.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want that, you come out and say I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to and deal with the consequence of that.
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  Speaker 1: And it might work, and there might be consequences, might not.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, right, but if you don't understand what
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  Speaker 2: the left is doing regarding power, it's an unserious play. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: none of these Republicans deserve our vote. That is so
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  Speaker 2: not an argument as to be laughable. It's not an argument.
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  Speaker 1: It is childlike pablem You live in the real world.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes you gotta do things you don't like with people
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  Speaker 2: you don't like, I agree, and sometimes you gotta stand up,
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  Speaker 2: and I think this is one of those times for both.
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  Speaker 1: John Carl Lied. Now you know