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- 0:05Speaker 1: This is Denna Salent, head coach of the New Orleans Saints,
- 0:08Speaker 1: and you're listening to the NFL Report. That's right, DA,
- 0:12Speaker 1: this is the NFL Report, and I'm Steve Whites with
- 0:15Speaker 1: my co pilot James Palmer and JP. Yeah, the NFL
- 0:19Speaker 1: season is over, but now we are in draft season
- 0:22Speaker 1: when college fans the NFL fans actually coalesce and believe
- 0:27Speaker 1: in the same thing, and that's finding out which one
- 0:30Speaker 1: of these college superstars or which these college superstars is
- 0:33Speaker 1: going to make their team better. And to help us
- 0:35Speaker 1: with that conversation today we have got Doug.
- 0:38Speaker 2: Williams, one of the greatest ever do like personal athletic hero.
- 0:42Speaker 1: We're also going to be joined by NFL Media's Greg
- 0:45Speaker 1: Rosenthal and we're talking free agents, and boy is rosie
- 0:49Speaker 1: packet a punch. But JP, let's talk about quarterbacks and
- 0:55Speaker 1: teams that need them.
- 0:57Speaker 3: It's the most important position in all of sports, Steve,
- 1:00Speaker 3: If teams that have great ones or far above average
- 1:04Speaker 3: ones are constantly competitive and consistently in the super Bowl conversation,
- 1:09Speaker 3: we're gonna talk about eight teams that have varying Super
- 1:13Speaker 3: Bowl windows. Right now, those eight teams are not mentioned
- 1:16Speaker 3: in this block because they have quarterbacks. We'd like to
- 1:19Speaker 3: talk a different group of eight teams, teams that are
- 1:23Speaker 3: desperate for a quarterback so they can get themselves into
- 1:27Speaker 3: that other group. Let's take a look at where some
- 1:29Speaker 3: of these teams stand. Here's where they're picking. You look
- 1:32Speaker 3: at the Bears with the first pick, Commanders, two Patriots,
- 1:35Speaker 3: three Giants, six Falcons, eight, Vikings eleven. Will break them
- 1:40Speaker 3: down with the Kirk Cousins situation, Broncos twelve.
- 1:43Speaker 4: Raiders, thirteen, Steelers twenty.
- 1:45Speaker 3: Now, if you're looking towards the draft, and that's what
- 1:47Speaker 3: we'll cover first, Daniel Jeremiah, our draft expert Steve has
- 1:51Speaker 3: four going in the first round, that's quarterbacks, and four
- 1:54Speaker 3: going in the first eight picks, six total in his
- 1:58Speaker 3: top fifty prospects. So if we're looking at this group,
- 2:01Speaker 3: not everybody is going to land a quarterback in the draft.
- 2:04Speaker 3: Let's look at that first group of those teams picking
- 2:07Speaker 3: maybe in the top three and then maybe include the
- 2:10Speaker 3: Giants at six. What do you see happening with a
- 2:13Speaker 3: couple of those teams.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Well, look, some of these teams are gonna have to
- 2:16Speaker 2: get up.
- 2:16Speaker 1: So we know the Chicago Bears have the first overall pick,
- 2:20Speaker 1: and the rampant speculation is it's going to be Caleb Williams,
- 2:22Speaker 1: a quarterback out of USC. So let's kind of move
- 2:25Speaker 1: on from them, because I've said the Washington Commanders at two,
- 2:29Speaker 1: this is where the draft actually starts.
- 2:32Speaker 2: And do the Commanders maybe trade.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Back a spot or two and still get their guy,
- 2:38Speaker 1: be it Drake, may be it Jaden Daniels out of LSU,
- 2:42Speaker 1: or do they sit there at two and not mess
- 2:44Speaker 1: around and make sure they get the quarterback that they want. Fine,
- 2:49Speaker 1: So now at three, the Patriots, they have to draft
- 2:52Speaker 1: a quarterback. Let's not play around. I don't think anyone's
- 2:55Speaker 1: moving off that pick. So let's say three of these
- 2:58Speaker 1: quarterbacks are gone. Now JP a team like the Falcons
- 3:02Speaker 1: at eight. When we talk to Terry Fonte, though, I
- 3:04Speaker 1: very much got from the general manager that they want
- 3:07Speaker 1: to draft a quarterback. They're gonna have to leap frog
- 3:10Speaker 1: the Giants at six to get up and get a quarterback.
- 3:13Speaker 1: This is where the real chess starts getting played. So
- 3:16Speaker 1: that's where I think the gamesmanship and the aggressiveness in
- 3:19Speaker 1: giving away draft picks comes into play big time, because
- 3:24Speaker 1: we're gonna get to in a minute. The veteran quarterbacks
- 3:27Speaker 1: out there on the market, including the trade value, just
- 3:30Speaker 1: aren't what you want to build your team around.
- 3:32Speaker 4: I think you're exactly right.
- 3:33Speaker 3: I love where the commanders sit because they're probably sitting
- 3:36Speaker 3: with a mindset of who do we like more, Jayden
- 3:39Speaker 3: Daniels or Drake May and a lot of evaluators. It's
- 3:42Speaker 3: still very early and we'll be talking this over the
- 3:45Speaker 3: next few months. The combine is not even here, but
- 3:47Speaker 3: a lot of evaluators I've already spoken to Steve have
- 3:50Speaker 3: these two much closer than maybe people assume.
- 3:53Speaker 4: And so who do you like best?
- 3:55Speaker 3: I think that plays a big part of this who
- 3:58Speaker 3: fits your scheme best? And I think the commanders are
- 4:01Speaker 3: in a very good spot to pick either one of
- 4:04Speaker 3: the two or if they don't force your.
- 4:07Speaker 4: Hand at two.
- 4:07Speaker 3: That's the other part of it, and you want to
- 4:10Speaker 3: see who wants to come up. I think mentioning the
- 4:11Speaker 3: Falcons coming up, I think is a very very poignant message.
- 4:16Speaker 3: I think that is a team that maybe doesn't really
- 4:19Speaker 3: look to go the veteran route. I know some people
- 4:20Speaker 3: have tied justin fields. We'll go to him in a second,
- 4:23Speaker 3: but it just gets the sense we had Terry Fottna
- 4:25Speaker 3: on this show, Steve didn't. He just sound like we
- 4:29Speaker 3: value draft picks. We value though building through the draft.
- 4:32Speaker 3: In a young quarterback coming in, even if we have
- 4:35Speaker 3: to move up for him, looks to be more something
- 4:37Speaker 3: the Falcons would do. Remember, they have established, you could say,
- 4:41Speaker 3: roster Steve on both sides of the ball, to where
- 4:44Speaker 3: they could think they could give up a future first
- 4:46Speaker 3: round pick to move up for mate. They have plenty
- 4:49Speaker 3: of salary cap space, they could make that jump. I
- 4:52Speaker 3: think that's one team you really have to keep an
- 4:53Speaker 3: eye on moving up, as well as the Giants sitting
- 4:56Speaker 3: at six because they don't have to go up as far.
- 4:58Speaker 3: I find New England faascinating sitting there at three. I
- 5:01Speaker 3: really do, just because of where they're going to stand
- 5:05Speaker 3: with what I'm what we're saying with picks one and two.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, and just real quick, you know
- 5:09Speaker 1: we're looking at and the know the Vikings at eleven,
- 5:13Speaker 1: the Broncos at twelve, and the Steelers at twenty. That's
- 5:18Speaker 1: going to be very hard for them to get up.
- 5:20Speaker 1: That's a ton of freight JP. But one player who's
- 5:24Speaker 1: connected to some of those teams. Not all of them, well,
- 5:27Speaker 1: a couple of them is justin Field. Let's hear what
- 5:30Speaker 1: he had to say on the Brown Brothers podcast about
- 5:33Speaker 1: his situation, in which he sounds like he knows he's
- 5:37Speaker 1: gone from Chicago.
- 5:40Speaker 5: Do you want to stay in Chicago or what's up? Yeah?
- 5:42Speaker 6: Of course, of course I want to stay, to be honest,
- 5:46Speaker 6: but I'll be trying to, like, you know, with all
- 5:48Speaker 6: the talk, it's hard to you know, I guess kind
- 5:52Speaker 6: of just boom being one place, but I can't see
- 5:54Speaker 6: myself playing in another place. But I know how that
- 5:57Speaker 6: league is, Like he was probably the same way before
- 6:01Speaker 6: you left Green Bay. But I mean, if it was
- 6:03Speaker 6: up to me, I would want to stay in Chicago.
- 6:05Speaker 6: I love the city, the city's lit, the fans they're
- 6:08Speaker 6: you know, they're great, and the people. But it's a business.
- 6:13Speaker 6: I an't got no control over it, so whatever happens happens.
- 6:15Speaker 6: But I feel like the biggest thing with all this
- 6:17Speaker 6: going on right now, I just wanted to be over, like,
- 6:20Speaker 6: just let me know if I'm getting traded, let me
- 6:21Speaker 6: know if I'm staying this and that.
- 6:24Speaker 3: I think we all feel the same way, justin I
- 6:26Speaker 3: think we all want to know if you're getting traded
- 6:28Speaker 3: or not, because I do think this is kind of
- 6:31Speaker 3: the lynchpin of this offseason right now, Steve, because there's
- 6:35Speaker 3: so few veteran quarterbacks that could land a spot and
- 6:37Speaker 3: if a team desperately wants them, which is something the
- 6:40Speaker 3: Chicago Bears probably are banking on, to my understanding, they're
- 6:43Speaker 3: evaluating all of this. They're going to go in g
- 6:45Speaker 3: Indianapolis with a plan. Obviously not tell anybody that plan,
- 6:49Speaker 3: but Ryan Poles is going to sit there and listen
- 6:52Speaker 3: to every offer that is out there for justin fields
- 6:54Speaker 3: and every offer that's out there for number one. What
- 6:57Speaker 3: fascinates me most about field, Steve is we've seen flash
- 7:00Speaker 3: of a really, really good quarterback. Go ask Sean Payton
- 7:03Speaker 3: who he faced in the first half of their game
- 7:06Speaker 3: against the Chicago Bears, and then look at who he
- 7:08Speaker 3: faced in the second half.
- 7:09Speaker 4: It was almost like two different guys. But what you
- 7:11Speaker 4: would be doing is the guess is.
- 7:13Speaker 3: Giving up a a second round pick or a third
- 7:16Speaker 3: round pick for a quarterback that you could essentially have
- 7:19Speaker 3: for the next two seasons with his fistier option for
- 7:23Speaker 3: really a grand total of about twenty.
- 7:25Speaker 4: Five million dollars. That's not a terrible spot to be in.
- 7:29Speaker 3: If you don't love one of these quarterbacks at the
- 7:32Speaker 3: top of the draft and don't have the ability to
- 7:34Speaker 3: trade up for one of them, you could use a
- 7:36Speaker 3: second or third round pick and get two years to
- 7:38Speaker 3: evaluate Justin Fields. Is that accurate if you want to
- 7:41Speaker 3: take a jump at him.
- 7:42Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say so.
- 7:43Speaker 1: I mean the finance, the financial aspect of it is
- 7:46Speaker 1: clearly a boom, especially because he's such a boom or
- 7:49Speaker 1: bust type of roll of the dice. And at the
- 7:52Speaker 1: same time, I look at some of the teams who
- 7:54Speaker 1: were talking about the Falcons, their new coordinator Zach Robinson's
- 7:58Speaker 1: coming from la Eric Goff and Matthew Stafford.
- 8:01Speaker 2: That scheme does not fit Justin Fields. Right, you're looking.
- 8:05Speaker 1: I told you we talked about Pittsburgh and Arthur Smith
- 8:07Speaker 1: wanted no parts of him in the draft. Don't see
- 8:10Speaker 1: him getting sweet on Justin Fields all of a sudden,
- 8:13Speaker 1: the Bronco as you mentioned Sean Payton, accuracy is his
- 8:16Speaker 1: number one thing in a quarterback that is not Justin
- 8:18Speaker 1: Field's history. So once again, with the thirteenth overall pick,
- 8:24Speaker 1: I like the Raiders making a trade for Justin Fields
- 8:28Speaker 1: with one of their later round picks. They've got the
- 8:30Speaker 1: thirteenth pick to kind of add to maybe get him
- 8:32Speaker 1: some more weapons. He said, Chicago is lit, Vegas is
- 8:36Speaker 1: more lit, so that if he wants to be looking
- 8:39Speaker 1: in at the environment, he can go that that fan
- 8:41Speaker 1: base would love him.
- 8:42Speaker 2: Let's also look at kurtk Couzins.
- 8:44Speaker 3: Do you find it interesting though, Steve, that like you
- 8:47Speaker 3: go and get Getzi out of Chicago and then you
- 8:50Speaker 3: repair him with Justin Fields as quarterback?
- 8:53Speaker 4: Is that kind of bizarre?
- 8:55Speaker 2: We don't and we don't see that happen. But I mean, what.
- 8:59Speaker 4: Else, that's what we're gonna do.
- 9:00Speaker 1: Where they gonna go, Okay, kirk Cousins, right, Kirk Cousins
- 9:03Speaker 1: is like that the Wilson Russell Wilson.
- 9:07Speaker 4: So I'm gonna give you what they're going to do.
- 9:09Speaker 2: What they can do, Steve, what do you get They
- 9:11Speaker 2: could go.
- 9:12Speaker 3: After Kirk Cousins. They could go after Kirk Cousins. You
- 9:15Speaker 3: know why they could? They could thank Jimmy Garoppolo for
- 9:18Speaker 3: that because of his ped suspension. They are off the
- 9:21Speaker 3: hook for a good chunk of money. It's about eleven
- 9:25Speaker 3: point two five million off and then another eleven point
- 9:28Speaker 3: two five million off because of what transpired with the suspension.
- 9:32Speaker 3: We do know that Kirk Cousins could be somebody that
- 9:36Speaker 3: could fit into what they do down there.
- 9:37Speaker 4: DeVante Adams likes him a lot.
- 9:39Speaker 3: Set it this offseason, say that he's a quarterback that
- 9:41Speaker 3: can find you in the football no matter where you
- 9:43Speaker 3: are in the field. This could be something if they
- 9:46Speaker 3: believe they can compete right away, and I think Antonio
- 9:49Speaker 3: Pierce does believe that they're one of the few teams
- 9:51Speaker 3: that could compete right away, and I think that's why
- 9:53Speaker 3: they could be one of the very few teams that
- 9:55Speaker 3: could be interested in Kirk Cousins. The other part of
- 9:58Speaker 3: it is, remember last year when the when the Las
- 10:01Speaker 3: Vegas Raiders were looking to trade up maybe to one
- 10:03Speaker 3: or two for a quarterback, didn't do it. What happens
- 10:06Speaker 3: in Houston with CJ. Stroud at number two? Do they
- 10:08Speaker 3: go we gotta go up and get somebody? What does
- 10:12Speaker 3: Mark Davis say about that? I find the Cousins situation
- 10:15Speaker 3: very interesting because it's him, it's Field Steve, and then
- 10:17Speaker 3: he mentioned it's Baker Mayfield, and then that might be
- 10:21Speaker 3: it for your veteran options before you get into Ryan
- 10:23Speaker 3: Tannehill and say Gardner Minshew.
- 10:26Speaker 2: Whoa and I love Hey.
- 10:28Speaker 1: Are you saying that Russ is moving out of his
- 10:30Speaker 1: thirty five million dollars manson to go slumming?
- 10:33Speaker 2: He's going down here.
- 10:34Speaker 1: Don't know what you do with the town Holmes with
- 10:36Speaker 1: like Matt Jones and Ryan Tannehill, give me.
- 10:39Speaker 3: The spot that will Land Russell Wilson and maybe I'll
- 10:42Speaker 3: just tease it. We'll discuss that with Greg Rosenthal later
- 10:47Speaker 3: in the show.
- 10:48Speaker 4: Steve.
- 10:48Speaker 3: Let's get to our special guest though, in the next block. Steve,
- 10:51Speaker 3: Let's get to our nestal guest in the next block
- 10:53Speaker 3: and Doug Williams Super Bowl champion quarterback. Doug Williams, to
- 10:59Speaker 3: be specific, and also right now is the senior advisor
- 11:03Speaker 3: for President Jason Wright in Washington. We're gonna get his
- 11:06Speaker 3: take on the HBCU Legacy Bowl that you're at right now, Steve,
- 11:09Speaker 3: but we're also gonna get his take on the quarterbacks
- 11:12Speaker 3: coming out in the straft.
- 11:24Speaker 1: The best draft al duel players from historically black colleges
- 11:26Speaker 1: and universities put on the pads one last time so
- 11:30Speaker 1: they're worthy of getting drafted.
- 11:32Speaker 2: The third annual.
- 11:33Speaker 1: All State HBCU Legacy Bowl Saturday, four pm Eastern, exclusively
- 11:38Speaker 1: on NFL Network and streaming on NFL Plus. Oh JP,
- 11:45Speaker 1: you know, I'm down here Yomen Stadium at Tulane with
- 11:47Speaker 1: all the greats, and we're joined by the greatest, my hero,
- 11:51Speaker 1: my man, co founder of the Black College Football Hall
- 11:54Speaker 1: of Fame, co founder of the HBCU Legacy Bowl, Doug Williams.
- 11:58Speaker 2: Doug, appreciate you joining us.
- 12:00Speaker 5: Thanks Thve for having me Man. I appreciate being on.
- 12:03Speaker 2: So as I did that beautiful read right there.
- 12:06Speaker 1: This is the third annual, you know, time we've done
- 12:09Speaker 1: this down here with this HBCU Legacy Bawl. We saw
- 12:13Speaker 1: last year, Doug, about fifteen guys from this game get
- 12:16Speaker 1: at a minimum rookie camp tryouts.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Several of them made rosters.
- 12:22Speaker 1: We saw the dB Bolden out of Jackson State get
- 12:24Speaker 1: drafted by the Patriots three years ago. You and James
- 12:28Speaker 1: Shack Harris came up with the concept for this game.
- 12:30Speaker 1: Now that you look at some of the success you
- 12:32Speaker 1: had at getting players from historically black colleges and universities
- 12:35Speaker 1: to the NFL, what can you say about the purpose
- 12:40Speaker 1: and the success of what's happened here.
- 12:42Speaker 5: Well, you know what I can say, from year one
- 12:45Speaker 5: to where we are today, I feel pretty good about that,
- 12:48Speaker 5: but still not satisfying. And I think this year crop
- 12:53Speaker 5: of guys, you know, we got way more talent that
- 12:57Speaker 5: showed up this year than we have had since we've
- 13:00Speaker 5: been here. There's no doubt in my mind. You know,
- 13:03Speaker 5: anywhere from five to six guys should be drafted. I mean,
- 13:07Speaker 5: I don't do the drafted, but I'm saying that should
- 13:09Speaker 5: be and not only that, but should get many more
- 13:13Speaker 5: get an opportunity to end up as free agent or
- 13:15Speaker 5: get an opportunity in somebody's training camp that they can
- 13:18Speaker 5: earn their right onto a team. And it makes me
- 13:21Speaker 5: feel good. And James and how we talk about this
- 13:23Speaker 5: all the time about opportunity, and what we're doing here
- 13:27Speaker 5: is giving these guys an opportunity.
- 13:29Speaker 4: I love that, Doug, because we know.
- 13:30Speaker 3: One of my favorite things about the NFL is if
- 13:33Speaker 3: you're talented, league, teams are going to try to go
- 13:35Speaker 3: out there and find you, and you can find your
- 13:37Speaker 3: way into the NFL in a variety of ways. Every
- 13:40Speaker 3: team is down there, Every team in the NFL is
- 13:43Speaker 3: represented down there. Looking at these players. What have you
- 13:47Speaker 3: heard from that side of things about what you've built
- 13:49Speaker 3: over the last three years in terms of the caliber
- 13:52Speaker 3: of players that the league is making sure they go
- 13:54Speaker 3: down there and take a decent look at I.
- 13:57Speaker 5: Think what has happened This gals not a little freeboy
- 14:01Speaker 5: by telling you about certain players. At first, they was
- 14:03Speaker 5: kind of like everybody else. I don't know, but I
- 14:07Speaker 5: think what they've seen from this combine and from these practices.
- 14:11Speaker 5: You know they call our people name man and you
- 14:13Speaker 5: know running back Howard he stood out like a soul thumb.
- 14:18Speaker 2: We got Jarvin Howard from UH.
- 14:20Speaker 5: From w he had August Petrice from Southern University, the
- 14:25Speaker 5: guy that's in law school. And then you had the
- 14:28Speaker 5: offensive lineman. A lot of people don't they don't get
- 14:29Speaker 5: a lot of love sometimes, but that's one lineman here
- 14:32Speaker 5: that that really jumped out at me. And that's that's
- 14:34Speaker 5: him Hill from Texas Southern. And then you got the
- 14:39Speaker 5: right the Owings from Texas Southern who had a great year.
- 14:42Speaker 5: You know, he showed up. And you know we got Smith,
- 14:45Speaker 5: the defensive back. He's an undersized guy, but we know
- 14:48Speaker 5: he can run fast and tight end man. We got
- 14:52Speaker 5: this tight end number fifteen. I'll tell you what. If
- 14:55Speaker 5: he's not a pass catcher, he certainly should be somebody blocker.
- 14:59Speaker 5: And he from Steve's school. Now, you know, we talked
- 15:02Speaker 5: about the tight end from Steve's school, but if you
- 15:04Speaker 5: watch him through the week, he has probably been one
- 15:07Speaker 5: of the most consistent players on the field as for
- 15:10Speaker 5: his running round and catching the ball.
- 15:12Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking about Brendan Brown, the tight end from
- 15:14Speaker 1: Howard who's been excellent, and James. There's a tight end
- 15:18Speaker 1: out of Arkansas Pine Bluff named Tristan Ballard.
- 15:21Speaker 2: Dude, his body like this is one where an NFL.
- 15:26Speaker 1: Team sees him and immediately is like, I don't care
- 15:29Speaker 1: about anything. We got to get him into a camp
- 15:31Speaker 1: just because he's he's listed at six five, two forty,
- 15:36Speaker 1: but his body should be in the louver right it isn't.
- 15:41Speaker 1: He hasn't dropped the pass. He he looks very well coached.
- 15:45Speaker 1: I mean, he he's not a raw product. He looks
- 15:48Speaker 1: pretty polic So it don't it'd be interesting to see
- 15:51Speaker 1: if he gets, you know, into a camp.
- 15:53Speaker 5: Not only that, but but his body alone gets him
- 15:55Speaker 5: into a camp. Because you look at a guy that
- 15:58Speaker 5: plays tight end, you know there's something you got tight
- 16:01Speaker 5: ends today, they can get running backs to the Eds.
- 16:04Speaker 5: And then he's the guy that if you teach it right,
- 16:07Speaker 5: he's a guy that can get you to the Eds.
- 16:08Speaker 5: You know, I affirm to bleed that. And the quarterbacks.
- 16:11Speaker 5: You know, we can't take nothing away from these quarterbacks
- 16:13Speaker 5: because Musa at times that looked real good. And Richard's man,
- 16:18Speaker 5: he's just a guy that in today's game. But what
- 16:22Speaker 5: Richard can do from a running standpoint, and he's not
- 16:24Speaker 5: a runner, but he can throw the football. But you know,
- 16:27Speaker 5: if the rush come, he can get away. And that's
- 16:30Speaker 5: what you like in your quarterback today, because if you
- 16:33Speaker 5: can't get away from the rush today, you in trouble.
- 16:37Speaker 2: Right you're talking about Davis Richard. We're seeing right here.
- 16:39Speaker 1: He's a two time MIACT Offensive Player of the Year,
- 16:43Speaker 1: one of the best offensive players to come out of
- 16:45Speaker 1: black college football in years. And you also mentioned Jeremy Moosha,
- 16:51Speaker 1: he's SWACKED Offensive Player of the Year, the quarterback out
- 16:54Speaker 1: of Florida A and M who started his career at
- 16:57Speaker 1: Hawaii also had to stop in Vanderbilt before he went
- 17:00Speaker 1: down there and lit it up for the rat and
- 17:03Speaker 1: so so We're looking a little bit at Moosha right now.
- 17:05Speaker 1: Doug Moosa is somebody you know you heard lear me
- 17:08Speaker 1: talk about he's got his third his third Division I program.
- 17:12Speaker 1: But this week we see he's got the incredible arm talent,
- 17:16Speaker 1: but the consistency is.
- 17:18Speaker 2: The big question mark with him.
- 17:20Speaker 1: Is someone who evaluates quarterbacks When you look at someone
- 17:23Speaker 1: like him who can put the ball just anywhere, but
- 17:26Speaker 1: hasn't generated the consistency like that, What does that tell
- 17:29Speaker 1: you is that somebody you want to give a look
- 17:31Speaker 1: on talent alone and you coach him up or.
- 17:33Speaker 5: Do you think I think as a coach you you
- 17:36Speaker 5: love then opportunity to work with him, because at the
- 17:39Speaker 5: end of the day, it's all about the middle part
- 17:41Speaker 5: of it. And you know, when you see a receiver,
- 17:42Speaker 5: all of them not gonna be wide open. Somewhere along
- 17:45Speaker 5: the line. You got to be that guy to put
- 17:47Speaker 5: it where he can get open. And I think that's
- 17:49Speaker 5: the one thing that is hampering him is not letting
- 17:52Speaker 5: the ball go when they even you know, that's the
- 17:55Speaker 5: old police saying, when they even they leave it, he
- 17:57Speaker 5: wants to see weight and all the time you're not
- 18:00Speaker 5: going to run with You got to give him a
- 18:02Speaker 5: chance to make make the play, and I think once
- 18:04Speaker 5: he gets the mind up to get the ball out
- 18:06Speaker 5: of his hand to look quicker than what he has,
- 18:08Speaker 5: he'll be all right.
- 18:10Speaker 3: I gotta change gears here for a moment, though, because
- 18:13Speaker 3: your former team in Washington is in need of a
- 18:16Speaker 3: quarterback as well.
- 18:17Speaker 4: We're sitting here breaking down current team.
- 18:21Speaker 3: Still your team, I mean former team as in you
- 18:24Speaker 3: used to be the quarterback. They're still employed by the team,
- 18:27Speaker 3: still working there with Jason Wright and working there at
- 18:29Speaker 3: the front office. I understand, but you used to play
- 18:32Speaker 3: that position.
- 18:33Speaker 4: There in Washington. What what is you know?
- 18:36Speaker 3: What is your thought on how quickly things with a
- 18:39Speaker 3: new regime there the number two pick cap space, there's
- 18:41Speaker 3: still talent on that roster on both sides. On how
- 18:45Speaker 3: quickly things can start to turn around in Washington.
- 18:49Speaker 5: I think I think we're gonna surprize the people. I
- 18:50Speaker 5: think we'd be a lot quicker than a lot of
- 18:52Speaker 5: people expect, you know, because of the cap space that
- 18:55Speaker 5: we do have, because of the draft capital that we
- 18:57Speaker 5: do have. You know, when you got five picks within
- 19:00Speaker 5: the first one hundred and you got what eighty some
- 19:03Speaker 5: million dollars cash space. We got something to work with.
- 19:06Speaker 5: And I think the coaching staff that has been assimilate
- 19:09Speaker 5: by Dan Quinn and and Adam speaks volume of the
- 19:13Speaker 5: guys in there. You know, the building feels so much
- 19:17Speaker 5: different from because you got guys from from different places.
- 19:20Speaker 5: It's not a bunch of guys from one place coming
- 19:22Speaker 5: in after leaving another place. You got guys from different
- 19:26Speaker 5: different culture, with different attitude, with different mentality, but they're
- 19:30Speaker 5: all it is working towards the same goal and that's
- 19:34Speaker 5: getting the commanders up to snuff. And I really think
- 19:37Speaker 5: that this year is gonna be a surprise year for
- 19:39Speaker 5: a lot of people and not gonna surprise us because
- 19:42Speaker 5: you know, talking to Dan, Dan is that type of guy.
- 19:45Speaker 5: He knows what he wants and I think he'll get
- 19:47Speaker 5: it done.
- 19:48Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned dan quincho.
- 19:50Speaker 1: Let's goin to keep on with that, because when they
- 19:51Speaker 1: had his introductory video, you're the first person he walked
- 19:54Speaker 1: up to with his hat on backwards.
- 19:56Speaker 2: He said, Ah, Doug, what's up?
- 19:58Speaker 6: Bro?
- 19:59Speaker 1: But you know, well, you know Dan is that dude, right,
- 20:02Speaker 1: He is somebody. When you're around him for two minutes,
- 20:05Speaker 1: you want to be around him for two years. How
- 20:10Speaker 1: do you know the cultureship that's going on there that
- 20:12Speaker 1: Dan Quinn is such an ideal fit.
- 20:14Speaker 5: Let me tell you that that morning that he walked
- 20:16Speaker 5: into the building, and what I did. I stood back,
- 20:19Speaker 5: you know, because I know Dan, I'm you know over
- 20:21Speaker 5: the years, and I just stood back.
- 20:23Speaker 7: You know.
- 20:24Speaker 5: I think what happened when Dan walked in that building, man,
- 20:26Speaker 5: you could just see the whole building change, the people
- 20:29Speaker 5: that was greeting him. And he looked over and said, oh, Doug,
- 20:32Speaker 5: you know to me, that was that old thing for him.
- 20:36Speaker 5: And you know the same time, you could feel the
- 20:39Speaker 5: whole building kind of shaken a little bit because they
- 20:42Speaker 5: was glad to see him walk through that and it
- 20:45Speaker 5: hadn't been anything different than when he walked through the
- 20:47Speaker 5: first day than it is today because the whole building,
- 20:50Speaker 5: the people that's in that building, they feel pretty good
- 20:53Speaker 5: because the way he come in with his infections attitude.
- 20:58Speaker 5: Everybody is somebody to Dan, and that's what makes the difference.
- 21:02Speaker 5: Nobody is above anybody, you know, everybody feel the same.
- 21:06Speaker 5: And working with Adams, you know, it's just a different
- 21:09Speaker 5: feeling in that building today.
- 21:11Speaker 4: I love that, Doug.
- 21:12Speaker 3: I feel like every conversation I ever had with Q
- 21:14Speaker 3: in my life kind of just stays with me.
- 21:16Speaker 4: It just has an impact in some sense.
- 21:18Speaker 3: It just kind of just sticks with you because it's
- 21:21Speaker 3: so engaging and I've learned so much from him about
- 21:24Speaker 3: the game just interacting with him, and I love that aspect.
- 21:27Speaker 3: Before we go, Doug, I do have to ask you this,
- 21:29Speaker 3: being a quarterback, you've spent so much time for your
- 21:32Speaker 3: current team evaluating quarterbacks over the years.
- 21:36Speaker 4: What have you learned in this process?
- 21:38Speaker 3: Maybe just I don't know if it's overlapping, but just
- 21:41Speaker 3: certain traits you've seen over the years that just are
- 21:44Speaker 3: value to you when they translate into the league. Is
- 21:47Speaker 3: there anything that stands out with the number of guys
- 21:49Speaker 3: you've evaluated?
- 21:50Speaker 5: Yeah, you know. My thing is I like a number one,
- 21:53Speaker 5: a tough guy, you know, who don't mind standing there
- 21:56Speaker 5: getting getting the job done. But at the same time,
- 21:59Speaker 5: you got to be smart enough to know when you
- 22:01Speaker 5: have to move, when to throw the ball away, not
- 22:03Speaker 5: to take a sack in times. You know, I look
- 22:07Speaker 5: at it now from the time I played, and I
- 22:09Speaker 5: know it's been a long time ago, but you watched
- 22:11Speaker 5: a lot of these quarterbacks they'll take a sack running
- 22:13Speaker 5: to throw it away. I'm a firm believer. Don't take
- 22:16Speaker 5: a sack because you put your team in a worse situation.
- 22:19Speaker 5: Now you know it was second down in ten, you
- 22:22Speaker 5: get sacked nine, third down and sixteen to me, throw
- 22:25Speaker 5: the ball away. But a lot of them, I think
- 22:27Speaker 5: is worried about their passing percentage and they they take
- 22:32Speaker 5: a sack. I don't know that that's hurting the team,
- 22:34Speaker 5: but it's helping them from a percentage standpoint. And I've
- 22:38Speaker 5: seen a lot of that over the years, and I've
- 22:40Speaker 5: just been the whole school. That's the one thing that
- 22:43Speaker 5: rubs me the wrong way.
- 22:45Speaker 2: Interesting, very very chy.
- 22:47Speaker 1: I have never thought about that or hurt anyone say
- 22:50Speaker 1: something about that.
- 22:51Speaker 2: Doug.
- 22:51Speaker 1: Doug, we can sit here and talk all day. We
- 22:53Speaker 1: know you got to get back down here at the
- 22:55Speaker 1: field of two lane. We got another practice coming up.
- 22:58Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so
- 23:00Speaker 1: much what you've done with the Black College Football Hall
- 23:02Speaker 1: of Fame and this All State HBCU Legacy Bowl. Creating
- 23:07Speaker 1: opportunity for folks to get until the NFL.
- 23:11Speaker 5: That's what coach Rob always saying. All it takes is
- 23:14Speaker 5: an opportunity.
- 23:16Speaker 2: Well, there we go. Appreciate you, Doug.
- 23:18Speaker 8: Coming up next on the NFL Report, are some teams
- 23:21Speaker 8: window narrowing or some as wide open as the patio
- 23:27Speaker 8: living room Leni in front of James Palmer's house. We'll
- 23:31Speaker 8: find out more on the NFL Report when we come back.
- 23:47Speaker 5: A touchdown wins the game play action fake?
- 23:50Speaker 6: What du City? Harden to hard?
- 23:57Speaker 7: What the catch? Kansas City?
- 23:59Speaker 1: When's they g twenty five twenty two and the Chiefs
- 24:04Speaker 1: Kingdom has started its own.
- 24:07Speaker 4: History class for the first time. And six thousand, nine
- 24:13Speaker 4: hundred and.
- 24:13Speaker 3: Forty four days there is a back to back Super
- 24:18Speaker 3: Bowl champion and it is the Kansas City Chiefs. Welcome
- 24:27Speaker 3: back to the NFL Report, James Palmer, Steve Whites with you.
- 24:30Speaker 3: If you're watching the show, Steve, you don't see it
- 24:32Speaker 3: very often. Ice Spice and then Andy Reid back to
- 24:35Speaker 3: back shots. You'll see that very often. But Bucky Brooks
- 24:38Speaker 3: had this on NFL dot Com and we wanted to
- 24:40Speaker 3: break it down a little bit for you. Here are
- 24:43Speaker 3: eight teams that he believes have the biggest Super Bowl windows.
- 24:46Speaker 3: Right now, Steve and I do not believe all of
- 24:48Speaker 3: these windows are of the same size, are of the
- 24:51Speaker 3: same quality. But let's start from the top and will
- 24:53Speaker 3: work our way all the way down. As the Kansas
- 24:55Speaker 3: City Chiefs have a window, Steve. It's one of those
- 24:58Speaker 3: Florida ceiling type windows Hawaii, and they just kind of
- 25:01Speaker 3: fold into the wall entirely and the entire space is
- 25:04Speaker 3: now indoor outdoor living.
- 25:06Speaker 4: That window is massive.
- 25:08Speaker 3: They have pillars and Andy Reid, Steve Spagnolo, and Patrick Mahomes.
- 25:11Speaker 3: They've learned to win in a new way this past year,
- 25:15Speaker 3: which I think makes them even more dangerous because Mahomes
- 25:18Speaker 3: is developing different ways to beat you now. And I
- 25:20Speaker 3: do believe in their general manager, Brett Veach, is going
- 25:22Speaker 3: to be very aggressive in getting him another weapon this
- 25:25Speaker 3: offseason that helps them move forward in the world they'll
- 25:28Speaker 3: be living in after Travis Kelcey and I want to
- 25:30Speaker 3: sneak this in real quick. Harrison Bucker, one of the
- 25:33Speaker 3: best kickers in the game is there at Kansas City, Steve,
- 25:36Speaker 3: and I think we saw this postseason how important that
- 25:39Speaker 3: is to consistent success in the postseason.
- 25:41Speaker 4: The Chiefs have it all right now in the biggest window.
- 25:44Speaker 1: Which is why Yeah, I mean, I know, yeah, they
- 25:46Speaker 1: you got the biggest window because of fifteen, right, I
- 25:49Speaker 1: mean that window is not going anywhere. We've seen the
- 25:52Speaker 1: Chiefs reinvent themselves twice now as well. You lose Tyreek Hill,
- 25:58Speaker 1: you win with a revamped offense line with a Super
- 26:00Speaker 1: Bowl there last, you're saying, Okay, we didn't need that
- 26:03Speaker 1: explosive wide receiver to win. Then they reinvent themselves this
- 26:06Speaker 1: year as a defensive team. So you've got the best
- 26:09Speaker 1: player in the NFL and Patrick Mahomes. You've got an
- 26:12Speaker 1: organization that finds ways to rebuild itself, much like the
- 26:16Speaker 1: Patriots did during its dynasty, and like we've seen some
- 26:20Speaker 1: NBA teams do during their dynasties.
- 26:23Speaker 2: LUs take it to the fact that that defense JD.
- 26:27Speaker 4: Is young as hell.
- 26:29Speaker 1: Almost all of the guys in the secondary are like
- 26:31Speaker 1: third to fifty year players or second to fifth year players.
- 26:36Speaker 1: So they're going to be around for a while. And
- 26:38Speaker 1: we could sit there and talk about salary cap. Salary cap.
- 26:41Speaker 1: They've already got the quarterback paid. They know how to
- 26:43Speaker 1: divvy things up in a way where they can keep
- 26:46Speaker 1: the nucleus of this team together for quite some time.
- 26:48Speaker 1: All right, let's go to another team Bucky listed that
- 26:51Speaker 1: is a Detroit Lions wide open. Another huge window. I mean,
- 26:55Speaker 1: this is as big as Ford Field. This is a
- 26:58Speaker 1: very young team. He's a very young head coach and
- 27:01Speaker 1: general manager who have established a format on how to
- 27:04Speaker 1: rebuild through the draft. Jared Goff has shown he's a
- 27:08Speaker 1: fine quarterback. I mean, they don't have to do anything
- 27:11Speaker 1: at that position either. They get themselves a little bit
- 27:14Speaker 1: more help off the edge and on the interior defense
- 27:16Speaker 1: to stop the run, little help of the secondary. I
- 27:19Speaker 1: mean I said three big things, but they're not major things.
- 27:23Speaker 1: I think Detroit is going to be a player for
- 27:25Speaker 1: a quite some time JP.
- 27:28Speaker 3: Because I see some similarities outside of the quarterback, which
- 27:30Speaker 3: Jared Goff is very good, and they can win a
- 27:32Speaker 3: lot of games and they can win a Super Bowl
- 27:33Speaker 3: with Jared Goff. I see the similarities in terms of
- 27:36Speaker 3: head coach and GM being lockstep in terms of how
- 27:39Speaker 3: you're building this. You mentioned the young defense, The Chiefs have.
- 27:41Speaker 3: The young nucleus that this Detroit Lions team has might
- 27:45Speaker 3: be the best young core of players in all of football.
- 27:48Speaker 3: From Jamior Gibbs, Sam Laporta, Aiden Hutchinson, Brian Brandon Branch,
- 27:52Speaker 3: all of these Jack cong the list goes on and honestly,
- 27:56Speaker 3: for how youthful and good this group is, and also
- 27:59Speaker 3: liked Kansas City Chiefs. We saw this past year. In
- 28:01Speaker 3: one season, we've seen the Lions win games in a
- 28:03Speaker 3: variety of ways. Steve and I think that's a big,
- 28:06Speaker 3: big part of this. Next the Ravens, who I believe
- 28:08Speaker 3: Steve was the best team in football during the regular
- 28:11Speaker 3: season this past year. And two things stand out to me.
- 28:14Speaker 3: Most Lamar Jackson won the MVP in his first year
- 28:17Speaker 3: in a new system. I think that's a pretty good
- 28:20Speaker 3: start to this window that they're in right now. The
- 28:22Speaker 3: second part is you and I have talked about this.
- 28:25Speaker 3: I don't think there's another team in football to where
- 28:27Speaker 3: they lose players within the season and you're thinking they're
- 28:29Speaker 3: key players, and they find ways to continuously keep winning.
- 28:33Speaker 3: It's because the roster's so well built. It's because they're
- 28:35Speaker 3: so deep, and the coaching staff is so good, and they.
- 28:38Speaker 1: Lose coaches every year, they lose front office guys every year,
- 28:42Speaker 1: and they're still because of the institutional stability that they
- 28:45Speaker 1: have there one of the best organizations in the NFL.
- 28:48Speaker 2: Plus they've got Lamar.
- 28:50Speaker 1: All right, GP, let's go for some of the bigger
- 28:52Speaker 1: windows to the Dallas Cowboys.
- 28:54Speaker 2: I have them with boilers windows.
- 28:57Speaker 1: You know you might see on about the eighty seven
- 29:00Speaker 1: floor of a hotel, like it's way too small for you, that's.
- 29:04Speaker 2: Not opening up.
- 29:05Speaker 1: I think this is a they're on about a one
- 29:07Speaker 1: year window. As your head coach, Mike McCarthy got one
- 29:10Speaker 1: year left on his deal. They're aging on the offensive line,
- 29:14Speaker 1: They've they've got an absolutely you know, star studded secondary,
- 29:18Speaker 1: and you know, guys like Micah Pargin's on the defense.
- 29:20Speaker 1: But it's still kind of a hodgepodge of talent. But
- 29:23Speaker 1: I think offensively, Dak in that one year window with
- 29:26Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's why that window to me isn't a big one.
- 29:31Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think Bucky has them here because I
- 29:33Speaker 3: think Dak took his game to another level this past season,
- 29:36Speaker 3: added some things about playing more consistently outside of the pocket,
- 29:39Speaker 3: extending plays. I think that's a big part of this
- 29:41Speaker 3: offense moving forward. But I do think losing dan Quinn
- 29:44Speaker 3: is a big knock, not just to the defense. You
- 29:46Speaker 3: know this Cowboys locker room really well, Steve, It's to
- 29:49Speaker 3: the entire team in what dan Quinn was able to
- 29:51Speaker 3: do there in Dallas I'm interested to see how wig
- 29:55Speaker 3: this window is moving on to the forty nine ers next.
- 29:57Speaker 3: I think mainly Steve. I'll just say this for two
- 30:00Speaker 3: two main reasons. It's one, John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan
- 30:02Speaker 3: had built something brilliant together in terms of how they
- 30:04Speaker 3: build a team. To you, brock Party on a rookie
- 30:06Speaker 3: contract with a lot of talent around him.
- 30:08Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. This window's kind of like with
- 30:10Speaker 2: this nucleus is a two year window.
- 30:11Speaker 1: That's not saying they can't continue on if brock Perty
- 30:14Speaker 1: keeps on doing his thing, but they've got so much talent.
- 30:18Speaker 1: But at some point you've already seen some signs of
- 30:20Speaker 1: age on Eric Armstead. It was a little banged up
- 30:22Speaker 1: this year as well, Fred Warner, George Kittle, Trent Williams,
- 30:26Speaker 1: like some of these guys, all of a sudden, Father
- 30:28Speaker 1: time is.
- 30:28Speaker 2: Gonna come knocking on the door.
- 30:29Speaker 1: So I think this nucleus has got about another two
- 30:31Speaker 1: years to kind of get through. Plus we're also seeing
- 30:35Speaker 1: teams like Detroit some other teams that we're gonna be
- 30:38Speaker 1: talking about in just a few seconds knocking on the window.
- 30:42Speaker 1: Let's go to the Cleveland Browns and the AFC North
- 30:44Speaker 1: because Okay, this window can slide open a little bit.
- 30:47Speaker 1: I think they've got enough talent on their defense, and
- 30:49Speaker 1: they've got a great coaching staff, but I think the
- 30:52Speaker 1: division and you know, there's just something about offensively, can
- 30:59Speaker 1: they consist lead, just do enough to keep up with
- 31:01Speaker 1: the Cincinnaties of the world, in the Ravens of the world,
- 31:04Speaker 1: and even Pittsburgh to that point.
- 31:06Speaker 3: Steve, this is one of those windows that's in a
- 31:09Speaker 3: bathroom that's all cloudy and you can't see through it
- 31:12Speaker 3: like it's there. But I'm not sure like you can
- 31:14Speaker 3: really see through this window because I'm just I covered
- 31:18Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson a lot.
- 31:19Speaker 4: When he was in Houston, and we haven't in.
- 31:21Speaker 3: Four years now seem him play like he did as
- 31:24Speaker 3: one of the best quarterbacks in football in twenty twenty.
- 31:27Speaker 3: And yes he's coming off of an injury to his
- 31:30Speaker 3: throwing shoulder. I just find this to be a fascinating window.
- 31:34Speaker 3: We know what Jim Schwartz brings, we know the defense,
- 31:36Speaker 3: they have a new offensive coordinator and Ken Dorsey. How
- 31:39Speaker 3: is Nick Chubb coming back off of the massive knee
- 31:41Speaker 3: injury had I find this one just very fascinating. I'm
- 31:44Speaker 3: a little more certain, honestly about the next one.
- 31:47Speaker 4: In the Green Bay Packers.
- 31:48Speaker 3: I think what we saw in the way they finished
- 31:50Speaker 3: the season, with the way Jordan Love played with young
- 31:53Speaker 3: pieces that are interchangeable to make things difficult on defenses.
- 31:56Speaker 3: And we know they have a good defense. They change
- 31:58Speaker 3: defensive coordinators, but this screw. I think I have more
- 32:01Speaker 3: confidence in a window as I do than the Cleveland Browns.
- 32:05Speaker 1: I do too, in terms of like a window being sizeable,
- 32:08Speaker 1: because right now they've got a nice window, and Chip
- 32:10Speaker 1: and Joanna are on their way up from Waco, Texas
- 32:13Speaker 1: from the Magnolia rehab and they're getting ready to build
- 32:16Speaker 1: a whole new unit because you've got Jordan Love and
- 32:20Speaker 1: his receiving corps growing together. Now they've got to replenish
- 32:23Speaker 1: that offensive line a little bit because David Boxieri we
- 32:26Speaker 1: saw injuries of this completely stapped him and left tackle.
- 32:29Speaker 1: But with their running backs and what they've got established,
- 32:32Speaker 1: I think this is a team that just did it
- 32:36Speaker 1: right again. All Right, New York Jets are on Buckis'
- 32:39Speaker 1: list is having a window. This window right here is
- 32:44Speaker 1: made out of kleenex.
- 32:46Speaker 4: Right.
- 32:46Speaker 1: There's no team that has a more urgent push to
- 32:51Speaker 1: get to the super Bowl. Otherwise you talk about something
- 32:54Speaker 1: flaming out, it just doesn't It just they're built absolutely
- 32:59Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers to come back to win. They have
- 33:01Speaker 1: talent somehow. The team won seven games last year without
- 33:04Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. But if it doesn't work, they're gonna blow
- 33:08Speaker 1: out everybody. Oh but they're still gonna be stuck with
- 33:11Speaker 1: like ten fantastic third and fourth year players because they
- 33:15Speaker 1: drafted so well. But they've got to retool it again.
- 33:18Speaker 1: So if they don't win it this year, that kind
- 33:20Speaker 1: of janky assemblage of the program they have there is
- 33:25Speaker 1: just a weird type of setup.
- 33:27Speaker 2: JP.
- 33:27Speaker 3: I love these window analogies we're using. Steve I used
- 33:30Speaker 3: to take a Greyhound about eleven hours home from college,
- 33:33Speaker 3: you know, you know, sporadically, the little tiny window that
- 33:36Speaker 3: opens at the top of a Greyhound that just lets
- 33:38Speaker 3: a little bit of air in. That's kind of the
- 33:41Speaker 3: Jets window that I'm looking at. This is a forty
- 33:43Speaker 3: year old quarterback, yes, a four time MVP, yeah, But
- 33:45Speaker 3: a forty year old quarterback coming off of an achilles,
- 33:48Speaker 3: with an offensive line that needs to be completely put
- 33:52Speaker 3: back together and I think that to me stands out. Yes,
- 33:55Speaker 3: there's talent other spots. They have top tier talent, honestly
- 33:58Speaker 3: at some very important spots, say pass rushers and corners
- 34:02Speaker 3: and wide receivers and lone secker. But I just look
- 34:05Speaker 3: at that offensive line and it really makes me scared behind.
- 34:10Speaker 3: You know, that's protecting Aaron Rodgers. Is there anybody on
- 34:13Speaker 3: this list that you think should be on this list
- 34:15Speaker 3: that's not that's not.
- 34:16Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the Los Angeles Rams because I think
- 34:18Speaker 1: over the next two years they've got an opportunity to
- 34:20Speaker 1: get back to the Super Bowl and win one. Matthew
- 34:23Speaker 1: Stafford again, we have not talked about how well he
- 34:26Speaker 1: played last year.
- 34:27Speaker 2: He was fantastic.
- 34:28Speaker 1: You've got some peaches, Cooper Cups still there, Pooper Nakua
- 34:31Speaker 1: is still there, Rob Havnstein, their tackle is still there,
- 34:34Speaker 1: Kyron Williams and Money Aaron Donald. They have got pieces.
- 34:37Speaker 2: Oh and JP.
- 34:38Speaker 1: You know what else they have this year that they
- 34:39Speaker 1: haven't had for twenty sixteen, A first round pick and
- 34:43Speaker 1: cap space. I think this is a team that's going
- 34:45Speaker 1: to be very aggressive because they know they got a
- 34:47Speaker 1: couple more years in Matt Stafford and Aaron Donald and
- 34:49Speaker 1: Cooper Cup and they want to get back to the
- 34:52Speaker 1: title game. They've got the personnel and the coaching staff
- 34:55Speaker 1: to do so.
- 34:56Speaker 4: I love that.
- 34:57Speaker 3: Look at how dangerously we're down the stretch this past season,
- 34:59Speaker 3: in a year where everybody was like, who's playing what spot,
- 35:02Speaker 3: We're regrouping, we're rebuilding, and there they were at the
- 35:05Speaker 3: end of the season, playing really, really good football. On
- 35:07Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford playing brilliant football in his last game of
- 35:09Speaker 3: the season, even though.
- 35:10Speaker 4: He came up short.
- 35:11Speaker 3: I'm looking at the Philadelphia Eagles, Steve, and I look
- 35:14Speaker 3: at a team that was maybe a questionable holding call
- 35:16Speaker 3: away from winning the Super Bowl two years ago, and
- 35:18Speaker 3: now they're not even on this list. They were ten
- 35:20Speaker 3: to one at one point and then obviously things just
- 35:23Speaker 3: spiraled out of control at the back end of the season.
- 35:25Speaker 3: But you still have one of the better offensive lines
- 35:27Speaker 3: in football, maybe the best wide receiver duo in all
- 35:30Speaker 3: of football, and aj Brown and Demonte Smith the top
- 35:33Speaker 3: five tight end in Dallas Goddard. I think the defense
- 35:36Speaker 3: needs to get faster, needs to get younger, but I
- 35:39Speaker 3: think having them not on this list, in the Super
- 35:41Speaker 3: Bowl window not being opened, are we forgetting what Howie
- 35:43Speaker 3: Roseman has done over the last five six years. When
- 35:46Speaker 3: they made the mistake of giving Carson Wentz a contract,
- 35:49Speaker 3: and everybody thinks that should sink a franchise.
- 35:50Speaker 4: It didn't.
- 35:51Speaker 3: In Philadelphia. Howie Roseman is one Executive of the Year
- 35:54Speaker 3: multiple times over the last couple of years. And if
- 35:56Speaker 3: anybody can fix things quickly in some spots of need,
- 36:00Speaker 3: I think it's Howie Roseman. So WOU I would look
- 36:02Speaker 3: at Philly as still having a Super Bowl window right now,
- 36:05Speaker 3: and Steve we didn't mention the Bengals, but Joe Burrow
- 36:08Speaker 3: tells us the windows as long as he's playing.
- 36:10Speaker 2: And he's one thousand percent correct.
- 36:12Speaker 1: I want to get back to the Eagles real quick
- 36:14Speaker 1: because the biggest holes at High Rosen need to defea
- 36:16Speaker 1: are on that coaching staff. You know that that to fix,
- 36:19Speaker 1: I should say, is on that coaching staff. They made
- 36:21Speaker 1: the changes. We'll see if that gets things back together
- 36:24Speaker 1: to mesh with some of that talent. But that was
- 36:26Speaker 1: the issue. You know, you hear about all the stuff
- 36:28Speaker 1: going on up there. I think that's how the Eagles
- 36:30Speaker 1: can get back. You know what else teams can get
- 36:32Speaker 1: back is to free agency Russell Wilson's not a free
- 36:36Speaker 1: agent yet, but he's going to be out there, all right.
- 36:38Speaker 1: Can Russell Wilson, who we said is moving on down
- 36:42Speaker 1: in home value.
- 36:43Speaker 2: Is you're gonna make a difference.
- 36:44Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk to our Greg Rosenthal after the
- 36:47Speaker 1: break here on the NFL Sport all that tape Elsie.
- 37:02Speaker 1: All right, we are back at the NFL Report Steve
- 37:05Speaker 1: Whitch here with my guy James Palmer, and we're bringing
- 37:08Speaker 1: in NFL media is Greg Rosenthal and Rosie, you've got
- 37:12Speaker 1: a great column coming out on Monday. I know it's
- 37:15Speaker 1: great even though it hasn't come out yet, because you're
- 37:18Speaker 1: talking about some of the free agents that are about
- 37:22Speaker 1: to hit the market.
- 37:23Speaker 2: JP and I. You know, we love you so much.
- 37:25Speaker 5: Greg.
- 37:25Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna put a twist on it because
- 37:27Speaker 1: some of the guys we're gonna talk about aren't quite
- 37:29Speaker 1: free agents yet.
- 37:30Speaker 2: Okay, you're good with that.
- 37:31Speaker 7: I'm good with whatever.
- 37:33Speaker 9: You know, two of the most respected and handsome men
- 37:35Speaker 9: at the NFL I want to do.
- 37:36Speaker 3: Yeah, we're right into it.
- 37:39Speaker 5: Here we go.
- 37:41Speaker 1: All right, so let's let's dive in Russell Wilson, who
- 37:44Speaker 1: is still under contract for not much longer with the
- 37:46Speaker 1: Denver Broncos.
- 37:48Speaker 2: We'll play where in twenty twenty four.
- 37:52Speaker 9: Oh my gosh, he's so hard to figure out. I
- 37:56Speaker 9: don't think it's Pittsburgh, which people have thrown out there.
- 38:01Speaker 9: I'm gonna throw in Washington and he'll be like a
- 38:04Speaker 9: backup slash one b to whoever the number two overall
- 38:09Speaker 9: pick is, because that's the role I see him, and
- 38:12Speaker 9: it's not the role that he's going to want.
- 38:14Speaker 7: But when when you.
- 38:15Speaker 9: Guys look around the league, where do you see the
- 38:18Speaker 9: starting opportunities for Russell Wilson? Necessarily I don't really see him.
- 38:22Speaker 9: So I think he could fit more as a guy
- 38:24Speaker 9: that is paired with a rookie, And for some reason,
- 38:26Speaker 9: he just seems like a guy who would land in
- 38:29Speaker 9: Washington and maybe he's their week one starter, but whoever
- 38:31Speaker 9: they draft is their week five starter.
- 38:34Speaker 2: Thank you, Rose.
- 38:36Speaker 3: I could kind of see that because because if you
- 38:38Speaker 3: look at it like we're looking at all these and
- 38:40Speaker 3: earlier in the show we broke it down all these
- 38:42Speaker 3: quarterback needy teams that are near the top of the draft,
- 38:45Speaker 3: or teams like Atlanta or the Giants that might want
- 38:47Speaker 3: to trade up a little bit, and then there's that
- 38:49Speaker 3: group that the Vikings and the Broncos and the Raiders
- 38:52Speaker 3: are all part of.
- 38:53Speaker 4: In the other part of the first round.
- 38:55Speaker 3: Maybe somebody you know, or a couple of teams end
- 38:57Speaker 3: up settling for that next group of quarterbacks that are
- 39:00Speaker 3: in the second round, and Russell Wilson is paired at
- 39:03Speaker 3: one of those because I do believe and Steve I
- 39:05Speaker 3: agree with Greg like he is probably in the bridge
- 39:09Speaker 3: quarterback type of range right now for where he lands,
- 39:13Speaker 3: and there's not a lot of spots where that player
- 39:17Speaker 3: actually is needed, which makes this really kind of fascinating.
- 39:21Speaker 4: So we'll stick with the quarterback spot.
- 39:23Speaker 3: This guy is not a free agent, Greg, And we're
- 39:26Speaker 3: just deviating entirely from this article that we're discussing and
- 39:29Speaker 3: promoting Justin Fields. Yes, where will he get traded? Justin Fields?
- 39:36Speaker 3: And the Greg Rosenthal brain, Where does Justin Fields go?
- 39:39Speaker 9: I think the Raiders make a lot of sense. Doesn't
- 39:42Speaker 9: he just seem like a Raider? I know, Luke Getzi's there,
- 39:44Speaker 9: he's been saying this. See we agree, we agree too much,
- 39:48Speaker 9: but he just feels like the type of guy that
- 39:50Speaker 9: Mark Davis would go get give a chance He's a
- 39:52Speaker 9: really unique guy to be available. I can't really think
- 39:56Speaker 9: of it, you know, Steven James, Maybe you guys can
- 39:59Speaker 9: think of some it. There aren't many quarterbacks who become
- 40:02Speaker 9: available for a trade that actually have a long track
- 40:05Speaker 9: record as a starter.
- 40:07Speaker 7: I mean, he's started a lot of games.
- 40:08Speaker 9: He's not like Kevin Cobb coming looser, Jimmy g you know,
- 40:12Speaker 9: just getting traded off of like seven starts, Like we've
- 40:16Speaker 9: seen a lot of Justin Fields, who actually has a
- 40:17Speaker 9: lot of potential and at least has a very good
- 40:20Speaker 9: baseline play where he can be a starter. We know
- 40:23Speaker 9: in the NFL, I don't think there's any chance he's
- 40:25Speaker 9: playing in Chicago, And so with Getzi and the Raiders, I.
- 40:29Speaker 7: Think he gives them some juice in twenty twenty four.
- 40:31Speaker 2: What do you think I've been saying it? I have
- 40:33Speaker 2: been saying the exact same thing, Rosie.
- 40:35Speaker 1: Plus, in that division where you have all these offensive
- 40:37Speaker 1: head coaches who have not faced a quarterback like Justin Fields,
- 40:43Speaker 1: I think the shock value alone in year one with
- 40:45Speaker 1: the Raiders could give them a ton of bounds.
- 40:48Speaker 2: All right, here's another one talking.
- 40:50Speaker 1: Now we're going to free agency, the player will be
- 40:54Speaker 1: you will be most shocked.
- 40:55Speaker 2: To see change teams.
- 40:58Speaker 7: Is I'm gonna start with Chris Jones.
- 41:02Speaker 9: I mean, with that shock you guys at this point,
- 41:04Speaker 9: I think when I normally make these lists of the
- 41:07Speaker 9: top one O one, the top guys just get franchise tag.
- 41:10Speaker 9: His franchise tag is going to be thirty two million
- 41:13Speaker 9: dollars somewhere in that neighborhood. So I think number one
- 41:15Speaker 9: and number two on my list A little exclusive here
- 41:19Speaker 9: for the NFL Report since the list isn't actually out.
- 41:21Speaker 7: Chris Jones and Kirk Cousins. I think they both changed teams.
- 41:24Speaker 9: Because I think at some point the Chiefs have to decide,
- 41:26Speaker 9: maybe we got the very best out of this guy,
- 41:28Speaker 9: and Lagarious Sneed is actually our bigger priority, and Chris
- 41:32Speaker 9: Jones ends up changing teams.
- 41:33Speaker 7: What do you think?
- 41:34Speaker 3: I'm interested in that one because we all remember Greg
- 41:37Speaker 3: how the contract negotiations went or.
- 41:39Speaker 4: Didn't go this past offseason.
- 41:42Speaker 3: If you want to know an inside kind of vibe
- 41:45Speaker 3: of Chris Jones, this is what I've always been told
- 41:47Speaker 3: by people close to him. Chris didn't care about money
- 41:50Speaker 3: when he had none, So imagine what Chris thinks when
- 41:54Speaker 3: he has some he really does not care. He will
- 41:58Speaker 3: hold out if he believes that's where he thinks he
- 42:00Speaker 3: should be, if he wants a certain number, he doesn't care.
- 42:04Speaker 3: We saw it during training camp. He doesn't care if
- 42:06Speaker 3: money is flying out of his pockets. He's the only
- 42:08Speaker 3: guy we really saw go.
- 42:09Speaker 4: Out and do that.
- 42:10Speaker 3: The interesting part about it, Greg would be so much
- 42:13Speaker 3: of what SPAGS does. Almost their entire run scheme is
- 42:15Speaker 3: based off of Chris Jones, and so there would be
- 42:18Speaker 3: there would have to be an adjustment up front. But
- 42:21Speaker 3: I think this team is drafted extremely well. I think
- 42:23Speaker 3: he's playing really well at a high level. He deserves
- 42:25Speaker 3: probably every penny he has. But we've noticed from Brett Viach,
- 42:28Speaker 3: if he believes it's time to cut, he's gonna cut
- 42:32Speaker 3: and move on and find another spot to fill. And
- 42:34Speaker 3: we know that they also have Lagarius Sneed, who I
- 42:36Speaker 3: think they could tag Sneed.
- 42:37Speaker 4: I think that could possibly be what they end up doing.
- 42:40Speaker 3: And I love that you mentioned Kirk Cousins because I'm
- 42:42Speaker 3: the guy I didn't get a chance to chime in
- 42:44Speaker 3: on the Raiders. I believe Kirk Cousins could land in Vegas.
- 42:47Speaker 3: I think that's a spot where he could end up
- 42:50Speaker 3: landing and I could elaborate on it further, and I
- 42:52Speaker 3: would do that at another time. Let's move on to
- 42:56Speaker 3: who has to be brought back? Greg Like on this
- 42:59Speaker 3: list of one one, what team needs to bring back
- 43:02Speaker 3: player X or it is a massive mistake.
- 43:06Speaker 9: Okay, I'm throwing out a different name than you expect.
- 43:08Speaker 9: Jonathan Gernard is the guy for me on this list.
- 43:10Speaker 4: I love that great year.
- 43:12Speaker 9: He love that he developed every year in his career
- 43:17Speaker 9: as a textant, better and better and better. And then
- 43:19Speaker 9: when Demiico Ryans gets there, he just turned into a
- 43:22Speaker 9: great second pass rusher, And I love you know what
- 43:25Speaker 9: they have on the other side with the interesting But
- 43:26Speaker 9: I think having those two guys locked up, you have
- 43:29Speaker 9: a ton of cap space. Don't go searching for the
- 43:31Speaker 9: next guy. You've developed this great player. And so to me,
- 43:35Speaker 9: having those two guys up front reminds me of some
- 43:38Speaker 9: of those forty nine ers Demiko Ryan's team where you
- 43:41Speaker 9: really started upfront with that four man pass rus You've
- 43:44Speaker 9: already got the duo for the next four or five years.
- 43:47Speaker 7: Just keep them, just keep.
- 43:48Speaker 2: Them, you know what, guy?
- 43:51Speaker 1: My guy is Christian Wilkins with the Dolphins because with
- 43:54Speaker 1: Anthony Weaver now the DC.
- 43:56Speaker 2: You saw what he do with Justin Matdowicke.
- 43:58Speaker 1: You've seen how he's developed the line, and he's an
- 44:00Speaker 1: old defense He played defensive line.
- 44:02Speaker 2: He coach defensive line with the Ravens.
- 44:04Speaker 1: I think with Christian Wilkins, he could be the next
- 44:07Speaker 1: level superstar. We see how much he means at defensive front.
- 44:10Speaker 1: They let him go with two edge rushers coming off
- 44:13Speaker 1: with significant injuries.
- 44:14Speaker 2: Bad move. They need to go ahead and pay Christian Wilkins.
- 44:17Speaker 7: Yeah, I think they'll keep them.
- 44:19Speaker 4: I wanted to comment on the Jonathan Garnard spot.
- 44:22Speaker 3: Greg I love one because what jumped out at me
- 44:24Speaker 3: right away, guys was I'm looking at Aiden Hutchinson, who
- 44:27Speaker 3: has nobody on the other side, and there's times where
- 44:30Speaker 3: you saw Hutchinson get to the quarterback and there's nothing
- 44:33Speaker 3: coming from the other angle. And Jonathan Garnard had a
- 44:35Speaker 3: great year, and I think if you have a pairing
- 44:38Speaker 3: like him and will Anderson, this one I really really like.
- 44:41Speaker 4: Greg.
- 44:41Speaker 3: I look at I look at a couple other players.
- 44:43Speaker 3: Antoine Winfield Junior. To me, he'll probably get tagged, but
- 44:48Speaker 3: there's no way he can depart from Tampa as good
- 44:50Speaker 3: as the season he's he had maybe the best season
- 44:52Speaker 3: for any safety in all football. Another one, what do
- 44:55Speaker 3: you I want to put Greg's knowledge here? Josh Allen
- 44:59Speaker 3: the year he had in Jacksonville? Is that necessary to
- 45:03Speaker 3: bring him back down to Jacksonville in terms of he
- 45:06Speaker 3: was really the one wrecking everything in the second half
- 45:08Speaker 3: of the season when they needed they needed a defensive
- 45:11Speaker 3: player to go out and make plays.
- 45:13Speaker 9: No question, I just assume he'll be tagged. To me, Look,
- 45:16Speaker 9: he got Defensive Player of the Year votes this year.
- 45:19Speaker 9: He went from he was always a very good pass
- 45:21Speaker 9: rusher and he went to great this year. He was
- 45:25Speaker 9: the best player on the team. He's the best player
- 45:26Speaker 9: on the defense. He was the best player on the team.
- 45:28Speaker 9: So the one thing that annoys me, you know that
- 45:31Speaker 9: you'll see the column drops on Monday. You know, they
- 45:33Speaker 9: take away so many of the good players with the
- 45:35Speaker 9: franchise tag and then the list just is in as
- 45:37Speaker 9: pretty so Josh Allen will be one of those guys
- 45:40Speaker 9: I believe taken.
- 45:41Speaker 7: Off the list.
- 45:42Speaker 1: Rosie fifteen seconds Exter were tight on time. But James
- 45:44Speaker 1: his favorite player is a free agent Drew Tranquil Oh. Yeah,
- 45:49Speaker 1: linebacker for the Chiefs, we're all doing. Man, he loves
- 45:54Speaker 1: me like a high rate rank.
- 45:55Speaker 7: He's in my top sixty five or so. I love
- 45:57Speaker 7: me some. Drew Tranquil. I thought I was out. I
- 46:00Speaker 7: had a limb with him last year. I had him
- 46:02Speaker 7: very high.
- 46:02Speaker 9: And the Chiefs they were looking for help and they
- 46:05Speaker 9: saw my rankings and they're like, this guy's gonna help
- 46:07Speaker 9: us win a Super Bowl.
- 46:07Speaker 3: They I can't remember which conversation it was Greg that
- 46:13Speaker 3: I was having with Brett Veach where he was like,
- 46:14Speaker 3: I was looking at Greg Rosenthal's top one oh one,
- 46:17Speaker 3: and that's kind of what pushed us over the edge on.
- 46:20Speaker 4: Getting Drew Tranquil.
- 46:21Speaker 3: But you are right, like he was so valuable to
- 46:23Speaker 3: that team throughout the course of this season. Smarts in
- 46:26Speaker 3: the middle of the defense is just brilliant. And you
- 46:29Speaker 3: know what, Greg Rosenvel's got a lot of smarts as well, Steve,
- 46:32Speaker 3: a lot of smarts.
- 46:33Speaker 4: Thank you for joining the NFL Report, Greg, appreciate it.
- 46:36Speaker 3: Coming up the behind the scenes look of the NFL
- 46:39Speaker 3: combine what happens really in Indianapolis. Steve and I break
- 46:43Speaker 3: it down next on the NFL Report. Welcome back to
- 46:56Speaker 3: the NFL Report. The NFL Combine, presented by Nobles starts
- 46:59Speaker 3: next week. The D line and Linebackers kick things off
- 47:02Speaker 3: next Thursday, followed by the DBS.
- 47:03Speaker 4: And tight ends on Friday.
- 47:05Speaker 3: Offensive skilled players step into the limelight on Saturday at
- 47:08Speaker 3: one pm Eastern, before the O line wraps it all
- 47:11Speaker 3: up on Sunday afternoon, all here on NFL Network and
- 47:15Speaker 3: NFL Plus. I'm on my way to Indianapolis on Monday, Steve,
- 47:21Speaker 3: and I think people have one thought of what goes
- 47:23Speaker 3: on in Indianapolis. It's what they see on the TV screen.
- 47:26Speaker 3: But in your mind, with all the years that you've
- 47:28Speaker 3: covered the Combine in Indianapolis, what stands out to you
- 47:31Speaker 3: that maybe people don't know about the ongoings in Indianapolis.
- 47:35Speaker 1: First off, Jp, I'm not going to have a nice
- 47:37Speaker 1: halibit at the Ocean Air for me one night.
- 47:40Speaker 2: You got to make sure you can make that happen.
- 47:41Speaker 1: So some great things about the Combine kind of behind
- 47:44Speaker 1: the scenes, especially for us in the media, is we
- 47:47Speaker 1: get to sit down at tables and stuff and speak
- 47:50Speaker 1: to some of these draft prospects.
- 47:51Speaker 2: Remember, we cover the NFL.
- 47:53Speaker 1: We don't get to spend a lot of time talking
- 47:55Speaker 1: to these draft prospects, which is the same thing that
- 47:58Speaker 1: a lot of these head coaches and coordinators are going
- 48:01Speaker 1: through because they're coaching in the season. So this is
- 48:04Speaker 1: their first exposure, you know, to a lot of these
- 48:06Speaker 1: players in watching them do on field drills.
- 48:10Speaker 2: But jp also some.
- 48:11Speaker 1: Of these interviews, these kind of ten to fifteen minute
- 48:14Speaker 1: speed gating interviews they do with these prospects at like
- 48:18Speaker 1: ten pm at night, after they've been scouting and watching
- 48:21Speaker 1: film all day. So I think the first interaction with
- 48:24Speaker 1: a lot of these collegiate players is one of the
- 48:27Speaker 1: things that a lot of people don't understand that it's
- 48:29Speaker 1: not just the stuff they're seeing on the field, but
- 48:32Speaker 1: again the stuff that happens behind the scenes and those
- 48:35Speaker 1: important to those conversations.
- 48:37Speaker 3: It's funny, Steve, a lot of people have told me
- 48:38Speaker 3: with the are in these interviews, how prepared or over
- 48:41Speaker 3: prepared or scripted some of.
- 48:43Speaker 4: These players are in these combined interviews.
- 48:45Speaker 3: They almost want to see them in their building and
- 48:47Speaker 3: sit down with them, maybe at the quarterback position, with
- 48:49Speaker 3: you know, a whiteboard if you will, or whatnot, spend
- 48:51Speaker 3: a little more time with them. The other part is
- 48:53Speaker 3: so many contracts are talked about between agents and general managers,
- 48:57Speaker 3: and Ryan Poles is going to be in a lot
- 48:59Speaker 3: of rooms that were not I'm gonna see talking to
- 49:01Speaker 3: teams about potential trades that go on. Those are the
- 49:04Speaker 3: two biggest things that happen in terms of trading picks
- 49:07Speaker 3: and in trading players and you know, working out new contracts.
- 49:12Speaker 3: All right, because of the combine, Steve, next week, we
- 49:14Speaker 3: only have one show and that is going to be
- 49:17Speaker 3: on Thursday at seven o'clock.
- 49:20Speaker 4: So my time in Indie eating.
- 49:22Speaker 3: Halibit, apparently in your mind is what's gonna end up happening.
- 49:26Speaker 3: So I'll see you Thursday when we take that bad Boy.
- 49:29Speaker 3: Enjoy New Orleans.