Latest / Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman / Ravinder Taylor – Mind Training

Transcript

Ravinder Taylor – Mind Training · Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman

0:05
Speaker 1: My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice.
0:10
Speaker 1: I've always been fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science and
0:16
Speaker 1: the crossroads at which they meet. Join me now and
0:19
Speaker 1: we will explore these topics and so much more with
0:23
Speaker 1: fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to
0:28
Speaker 1: destination unlimited. Is there a way of tweaking formerly subconscious
0:39
Speaker 1: brain processes to eliminate self destructive behaviors, enhance health and vitality,
0:45
Speaker 1: and supercharged success potential? My guest this week on Destination Unlimited,
0:51
Speaker 1: Revender Taylor says this may be achieved through mind training.
0:56
Speaker 1: For the past thirty years, Revender has been researching and
1:00
Speaker 1: analyzing self help modalities. She has utilized her learning in
1:05
Speaker 1: thousands of interactions with individuals seeking guidance for breaking through
1:10
Speaker 1: blocks to success in their lives. Many have praised her
1:14
Speaker 1: insights and reported great success when following her recommendations. In
1:19
Speaker 1: addition to working alongside her husband, Elden Taylor on each
1:23
Speaker 1: of his books, Revender is the co author of more
1:26
Speaker 1: than two hundred personal motivation audio programs and two books,
1:31
Speaker 1: Motivational Nudges to Empower Your Life and Peripheral Perception via
1:36
Speaker 1: subliminal stimuli. Her website is Revenda Taylor dot com, and
1:41
Speaker 1: she joins me this week to share her new book,
1:43
Speaker 1: co authored with Elden Taylor, Mind Training, The Science of
1:48
Speaker 1: Self Empowerment. Please join me in welcoming to Destination Unlimited,
1:54
Speaker 1: Revenda Taylor.
1:56
Speaker 2: Welcome, Revenda, Thank you so much, Victor, thank you for
1:59
Speaker 2: inviting me on your show. This is a Trullian honor.
2:03
Speaker 1: Revender, congratulations on your just published new book, Mind Training,
2:09
Speaker 1: The Science of Self Empowerment that you co authored with
2:12
Speaker 1: your husband Eldon Taylor, who's graced this show before. Please
2:16
Speaker 1: share with us your path and how it led to
2:19
Speaker 1: your partnership and work with Elden.
2:22
Speaker 2: You know, I think there was a great deal of
2:25
Speaker 2: synchronicity in my path. My degrees in microbiology and I
2:32
Speaker 2: was working in a path lab. I was very hard
2:36
Speaker 2: science at that time. If it couldn't be proved scientifically,
2:39
Speaker 2: it wasn't it wasn't true. But then there were all
2:43
Speaker 2: these flyers that were posted up around the hospital talking
2:47
Speaker 2: about a special presentation on hypnosis and hypnotherapy. Lots of
2:54
Speaker 2: people in the hospital went. The auditorium was absolutely packed
3:00
Speaker 2: because it was being put on by the hospital. I
3:04
Speaker 2: took that as kind of an endorsement for what was
3:07
Speaker 2: going on, and I found I found the information absolutely fascinating,
3:11
Speaker 2: some of the stories he shared, you know, how the
3:16
Speaker 2: mind works, what goes on. But also for me, you know,
3:21
Speaker 2: just coincidentally, everyone he picked to demonstrate certain hypnotic techniques
3:27
Speaker 2: on they happened to be people from my own lab.
3:30
Speaker 2: Now there are seventy people who worked in my lab,
3:33
Speaker 2: and they were sprinkled around this huge auditorium that was
3:36
Speaker 2: absolutely packed. So it was totally coincidence, but that was
3:41
Speaker 2: confirmation to me that it wasn't. They were shills. As
3:46
Speaker 2: a consequence of this presentation and the power of the
3:49
Speaker 2: mind and the way the mine can sabotage you, I said,
3:55
Speaker 2: I found it really fascinating. So I went on to
3:58
Speaker 2: do a course in hypnosis and psycho therapy, and as
4:01
Speaker 2: I just completed the three year course, there was a
4:05
Speaker 2: special presentation put in. A special lecturer came in, and
4:09
Speaker 2: that lecturer happened to be Eldon Taylor, which is how
4:13
Speaker 2: we met. His presentation was very science based, very down
4:19
Speaker 2: to earth, but his spirituality was apparent to everybody as well,
4:25
Speaker 2: so he didn't focus on the spiritual, but it was
4:28
Speaker 2: obviously there and we were kindred spirits. But as I
4:32
Speaker 2: walked into the classroom, you know, the very first day
4:36
Speaker 2: because it was a two day workshop. As I walked
4:39
Speaker 2: into the classroom, I heard a voice. Didn't understand a
4:42
Speaker 2: word of what this voice was saying because it was
4:46
Speaker 2: a strong American accent. It's like I didn't understand it,
4:50
Speaker 2: but I recognized the voice. So when you talk about
4:54
Speaker 2: synchronicity or special events or something, I just recognize the
5:00
Speaker 2: voice in my soul that There isn't any other way
5:04
Speaker 2: to say. It gets very spiritual there. You know, Elden
5:07
Speaker 2: and I are from very, very different backgrounds. I was
5:11
Speaker 2: born in India, brought up in England. My family were
5:14
Speaker 2: as Sikhs. Eldin is you know, significantly older than me,
5:20
Speaker 2: brought up in America. Just vastly different experiences. But both
5:27
Speaker 2: of us knew we were supposed to be together. That's
5:30
Speaker 2: the only way I can say it. You know, it
5:32
Speaker 2: sounds weird, but we knew we were supposed to be together.
5:35
Speaker 2: So it wasn't big romance, flowers, unicorns, all of that
5:41
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. It was just that inner knowing we
5:44
Speaker 2: were supposed to be together, so we learned how to
5:48
Speaker 2: be together, and you know, we enjoyed the same kinds
5:51
Speaker 2: of things. We both enjoy the learning about the power
5:55
Speaker 2: of the mind. We both like the spiritual aspect to everything.
6:00
Speaker 2: So it's spirituality with our feet firmly on the ground,
6:03
Speaker 2: and we are both in sync like that.
6:07
Speaker 1: So, in essence, coming from your scientific background, would you
6:13
Speaker 1: say that you were soulmates?
6:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't. I'm not saying that from a scientific background.
6:20
Speaker 2: I'm saying that just from our life experience. Yes, absolutely,
6:26
Speaker 2: and in a more realistic way. You know, being a
6:29
Speaker 2: soulmate doesn't mean that life is all hunky dory all
6:33
Speaker 2: the time. Relationships take work, they take compromise. So, yeah,
6:37
Speaker 2: he has to come watch chick flicks with me. I
6:40
Speaker 2: have to go watch action movies with him. We compromise
6:43
Speaker 2: in lots of different areas. But yeah, I would say
6:48
Speaker 2: categorically we are soulmates.
6:51
Speaker 1: Interesting that you are both ordained inter Denominational ministers, and
6:56
Speaker 1: my wife Lori Sue Brockway, and I are both ordained interfaithment.
7:00
Speaker 1: What led you to the calling?
7:02
Speaker 2: Elton had done the course first of all, and he
7:05
Speaker 2: talked about how much he gained from it how spiritual
7:10
Speaker 2: the process was in doing it, and I suppose that's
7:15
Speaker 2: what made me want to want to, you know, do
7:18
Speaker 2: the course as well. Was just based on his experiences,
7:22
Speaker 2: and I did find it very spiritual. It opened my
7:26
Speaker 2: mind and my heart in ways that other things haven't.
7:31
Speaker 1: Now you're the president of Progressive Awareness Research, please share
7:35
Speaker 1: with us the mission of this organization.
7:38
Speaker 2: We're all about finding tools and techniques to enhance the
7:43
Speaker 2: human experience. That's it in a nutshell. Our process is
7:49
Speaker 2: very science based. We believe that we can all do better.
7:54
Speaker 2: I think everybody does, wouldn't you say, Victor? We all
7:58
Speaker 2: have inside of us that fee that we could do better,
8:02
Speaker 2: and Progressive Awareness is about exploring ways that we can
8:07
Speaker 2: achieve that. So why aren't we as successful? Why do
8:12
Speaker 2: we employ self destructive patterns? Because we all do in
8:16
Speaker 2: some area or another. We all employ self destructive patterns.
8:20
Speaker 2: It could be something small. So if if someone's on
8:24
Speaker 2: a diet and they're you know, they've decided they're not
8:27
Speaker 2: going to have dessert anymore, but then they have a
8:30
Speaker 2: really difficult day at work, or they have some good news,
8:35
Speaker 2: it can be anything, but then they believe that they
8:39
Speaker 2: deserve a treat, and so they will break the diet,
8:42
Speaker 2: which is a self destructive pattern because you have this
8:45
Speaker 2: outward goal that says I wish to lose weight, but
8:50
Speaker 2: inside you you've got these competing goals that say I
8:54
Speaker 2: deserve a treat either because I was hurt or I
8:57
Speaker 2: deserve a treat because I've achieve something good. So that
9:02
Speaker 2: destroys your outward goal. And there are a great number
9:06
Speaker 2: of these subconscious processes going on. They dictate what it
9:11
Speaker 2: is that we do. Lots of research that has been
9:14
Speaker 2: done that indicates there is activity in the subconscious mind
9:18
Speaker 2: before we make a choice. In fact, technicians using fMRI
9:24
Speaker 2: can predict what choice you will make, and it's generally
9:28
Speaker 2: a choice between are you going to push a button
9:30
Speaker 2: with the right hand or the left hand. Technicians can
9:34
Speaker 2: predict what you will choose up to seven seconds ahead.
9:38
Speaker 2: So your choices that you think are your own are
9:41
Speaker 2: being made by your subconscious mind. And therefore we have
9:45
Speaker 2: to look at the subconscious mind in order to change
9:48
Speaker 2: self destructive behaviors to choose for ourselves. If you don't
9:55
Speaker 2: take charge of your own subconscious mind, that is where
9:57
Speaker 2: the whole element of free will can come in everything
10:01
Speaker 2: that you do is has a precursor to it. It
10:04
Speaker 2: has an influence. So your choices today may be dependent
10:08
Speaker 2: upon something that happened in the past. But if you
10:12
Speaker 2: take charge of your subconscious mind, if you think about
10:16
Speaker 2: how it gets programmed, if you learn how it gets programmed,
10:20
Speaker 2: the types of things to look out for, how you
10:23
Speaker 2: can change it, and how you can program it yourself,
10:27
Speaker 2: that is where as I said, that is where free
10:29
Speaker 2: will comes into play. That's where you have the ability
10:33
Speaker 2: to become your own person. You're not dictated by your
10:38
Speaker 2: past experiences or the programming of society, the TV that
10:42
Speaker 2: you watch, the people that you hang out with, all
10:46
Speaker 2: of these things have an influence, and progressive awareness is
10:50
Speaker 2: about changing that, actually taking conscious control over programming your
10:56
Speaker 2: subconscious mind. And the idea is to eliminate self destructive patterns,
11:01
Speaker 2: enhanced health and vitality, supercharge success potential, basically to get
11:06
Speaker 2: out of your own way. The mind's incredibly powerful, you know.
11:10
Speaker 2: The placebo effect shows clearly how well you can heal
11:14
Speaker 2: yourself with the right kinds of beliefs, and the right
11:18
Speaker 2: kinds of beliefs influence all of these areas, and that's
11:22
Speaker 2: what we focus on. We look for tools to automate
11:26
Speaker 2: that process. We try to teach how people learn these
11:31
Speaker 2: ideas in the first place, so that you can guard
11:34
Speaker 2: against them.
11:35
Speaker 1: And we're going to be talking about some of those
11:37
Speaker 1: techniques and the inspiration I guess behind your book Mind
11:41
Speaker 1: Training The Science of Self Empowerment.
11:44
Speaker 2: I came across a research paper that talks about a
11:48
Speaker 2: twelve minute meditation that was having some fabulous results. It
11:54
Speaker 2: was improving cognitive ability, improving mood just across the board.
12:00
Speaker 2: It was helping people feel better. It had great promise
12:06
Speaker 2: for you know, dementia patients in helping them, as I said,
12:11
Speaker 2: improve their cognition. The paper was very, very solid. I
12:15
Speaker 2: looked at the actual paper, I looked at the research
12:17
Speaker 2: behind it. The results were very solid. It was very
12:22
Speaker 2: scientifically based. It was published in a peer reviewed journals.
12:27
Speaker 2: But I found elements of it, or the explanations of
12:31
Speaker 2: it that were actually wrong. My own upbringing my own background,
12:36
Speaker 2: I have experiences in certain areas and I knew that
12:40
Speaker 2: what they were saying as their explanations for it was wrong.
12:45
Speaker 2: And that got me thinking, and so I started work
12:48
Speaker 2: on a book myself, and the preliminary title for the
12:51
Speaker 2: book I was working on, was bottling the Placebo Effect,
12:55
Speaker 2: the Real Secret to Health, Wealth, and the Fountain of Youth.
13:00
Speaker 2: In a way, I was being a bit cheeky there,
13:02
Speaker 2: because a great deal of self help, you know, there
13:06
Speaker 2: are lots of books out there, a great deal of it.
13:08
Speaker 2: They simplify the process too much. So they have these
13:12
Speaker 2: big promises and they give you techniques, but they don't
13:16
Speaker 2: teach you how to do the technique or what it means,
13:21
Speaker 2: or how you can tweak it. They just give you
13:23
Speaker 2: rituals to go through. You do step one, step two,
13:27
Speaker 2: step three, and all these magical things will happen. And
13:29
Speaker 2: I objected to that. So I started working on my book,
13:34
Speaker 2: you know, in my head and playing around with some ideas,
13:37
Speaker 2: and Eldon was also working on the Mind Training book.
13:43
Speaker 2: He's an accomplished authors, as you well know. He's a
13:46
Speaker 2: New York Times bestseller. He's written about seventeen books. Most
13:50
Speaker 2: of his books became best sellers in different categories. So
13:55
Speaker 2: he got his the outline of his book done well
13:59
Speaker 2: before I did, and so he handed that to me,
14:02
Speaker 2: and I realized how much overlap there was between the two,
14:06
Speaker 2: which makes sense really, because the two of us work together,
14:10
Speaker 2: but there was a difference in approach, and so we
14:13
Speaker 2: decided to combine the books. So I took the framework
14:17
Speaker 2: of what Elden had done, and on top of that,
14:21
Speaker 2: I put my own experiences, my own passions, my own
14:26
Speaker 2: research over the top of that, and we ended up
14:30
Speaker 2: creating a very practical book because every chapter in it
14:35
Speaker 2: has exercises that you can use right away that can
14:40
Speaker 2: make positive changes in some instances. You know, there's an
14:44
Speaker 2: exercise in there that I share that can help you
14:47
Speaker 2: drop your blood pressure within minutes. It can help you
14:51
Speaker 2: feel happier right away. How to boost those happy brain
14:57
Speaker 2: chemicals so that you feel happy right away. So there
15:00
Speaker 2: are tools in there that will have an immediate kind
15:04
Speaker 2: of effect, and there are tools that are there for
15:08
Speaker 2: more long term kinds of effects. But that was how
15:12
Speaker 2: it came about. We were both playing around with ideas
15:16
Speaker 2: and then we just decided to combine it into one
15:19
Speaker 2: to make a more complete book.
15:23
Speaker 1: And your subtitle is the Science of Self Empowerment. How
15:28
Speaker 1: do you define self empowerment?
15:31
Speaker 2: Self empowerment is when you have the tools. It's not
15:35
Speaker 2: when you trust a teacher or a guru or whatever
15:41
Speaker 2: to tell you how to how to do certain techniques.
15:45
Speaker 2: When you have the information for yourself, when you understand
15:50
Speaker 2: the science behind it, you know what was involved and
15:54
Speaker 2: how they came to the conclusions that they did, then
15:59
Speaker 2: you have the ability to take the results from it
16:02
Speaker 2: and personalize it for yourself. That's what self empowerment is
16:08
Speaker 2: is when you take charge of your own self help journey.
16:12
Speaker 2: And it is a journey. There isn't you know, click
16:15
Speaker 2: of your fingers and everything's going to be hunky dory
16:18
Speaker 2: right away. It is a journey. But when you can
16:21
Speaker 2: take charge of it yourself, when you can delve into
16:25
Speaker 2: your own subconscious mind and start getting answers from it.
16:30
Speaker 2: The fact is, victor, the more you question your own
16:33
Speaker 2: subconscious mind, the more you understand how the information gets
16:37
Speaker 2: in there, and the more you question it, the more
16:39
Speaker 2: it will reveal the answers to you. Lots of you know,
16:44
Speaker 2: self destructive patterns. They happen because your subconscious mind is
16:48
Speaker 2: trying to protect you from something. It wants to protect
16:52
Speaker 2: you from pain and shame and guilt. It doesn't want
16:56
Speaker 2: you to experience those things again. But oftentimes it's using
17:01
Speaker 2: information that is old, it doesn't hold so you were
17:06
Speaker 2: embarrassed as a child when you had to do a
17:08
Speaker 2: speaking event, Well, you're not a child anymore, so when
17:12
Speaker 2: you have to do a presentation at work, there isn't
17:15
Speaker 2: any need to have that kind of protections. But having
17:19
Speaker 2: this fear from childhood could make it impossible for you. You know,
17:24
Speaker 2: public speaking is the kind of thing that lots of
17:27
Speaker 2: people have problems with. I most certainly did. But the
17:32
Speaker 2: more you question your subconscious mind, the more you understand
17:35
Speaker 2: how the information gets in there, the more it will
17:40
Speaker 2: reveal the answers. So it's a journey. Mind training is
17:44
Speaker 2: definitely a journey, but it's a journey to self empowerment.
17:48
Speaker 2: It gives you the information, it gives you the tools.
17:52
Speaker 2: Then it says, go away and adjust it so that
17:56
Speaker 2: it fits you and your lifestyle.
17:58
Speaker 1: In your goals you say, there are several commonly shared
18:03
Speaker 1: stories that are more myth than fact. Please share some
18:07
Speaker 1: of these and why they can do more harm.
18:10
Speaker 2: Than could Yes, yes, there are, And that's where I
18:14
Speaker 2: start off with in mind training. You know, it's the
18:18
Speaker 2: rest of the story that really counts. So let me
18:20
Speaker 2: give you a couple of examples. You know, the first
18:23
Speaker 2: one you may have heard of, you know, with Roger Banister,
18:27
Speaker 2: he broke the four minute mile in nineteen fifty four.
18:32
Speaker 2: The way the story is shared frequently by people who
18:37
Speaker 2: teach self help motivational kinds of stuff is that up
18:43
Speaker 2: until nineteen fifty four, people did not believe that the
18:46
Speaker 2: four minute mile could be broken, but Banister did that,
18:52
Speaker 2: and because Banister managed it, everybody knew that it was
18:56
Speaker 2: now possible. They now had the belief, and as a result,
19:00
Speaker 2: John Landry broke Banister's recorded just six weeks afterwards, and
19:06
Speaker 2: since then, from the last time I looked at the numbers,
19:09
Speaker 2: around fifteen hundred people have broken the four minute mile.
19:13
Speaker 2: So it's the power of belief. That's what all of
19:16
Speaker 2: these teachers will say. People didn't believe it was possible.
19:20
Speaker 2: Now they believe it's possible, so it's happening. So all
19:24
Speaker 2: you have to do is believe it's possible. Sounds wonderful,
19:28
Speaker 2: sounds really inspirational, but it's really incomplete. Anyone who has
19:34
Speaker 2: tried to achieve a goal, I've done the same thing.
19:38
Speaker 2: I ran a marathon in twenty eighteen, but it takes
19:42
Speaker 2: a great deal of training for me. My training began
19:46
Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen. Up to that point. I had not
19:49
Speaker 2: run at all in decades. You know, I may have
19:52
Speaker 2: run across a parking lot, I may have run when
19:54
Speaker 2: I was playing with the children, but I hadn't done
19:56
Speaker 2: any serious running at all. And so my train began
20:01
Speaker 2: with working towards a ten k. So the training begins
20:06
Speaker 2: with you run for one minute, you walk for three,
20:10
Speaker 2: you run for one minute, and then you build it
20:12
Speaker 2: up and up. And I remember being so proud at
20:15
Speaker 2: Eldon did the training with me at the time. Both
20:19
Speaker 2: of us were so proud when we got to the
20:21
Speaker 2: ten minute run. So you run for ten minutes, you
20:24
Speaker 2: walk for one, you run for ten, you walk for one.
20:28
Speaker 2: But it takes working up to it. So with a
20:30
Speaker 2: story with Roger Banister, yes he broke the four minute
20:36
Speaker 2: mile in nineteen fifty four, but his training began in
20:40
Speaker 2: nineteen forty six, and for John Landry it started in
20:44
Speaker 2: nineteen forty nine. They had to believe that it was possible,
20:49
Speaker 2: or you're not going to try. But that's what Guinness
20:52
Speaker 2: Book of Records is all about. It's people who believe
20:56
Speaker 2: that they can do something. But then it takes a
20:59
Speaker 2: great deal grit, it takes determination, it takes sacrifice. You
21:05
Speaker 2: have to be out training when maybe your partner's in
21:09
Speaker 2: bed sleeping still. Tom Brady, there's a speech that he
21:13
Speaker 2: gave that I saw recently. You know, you're familiar with
21:16
Speaker 2: Tom Brady and his seven Super Bowl wins. I mean,
21:21
Speaker 2: he's just phenomenon. But he talks about how hard it is.
21:26
Speaker 2: You have to work hard at it. You have to
21:28
Speaker 2: go out and train, you have to sacrifice, you have
21:33
Speaker 2: to watch your dire, you have to miss lots of
21:36
Speaker 2: social events, you sacrifice your family. It's hard work. So
21:41
Speaker 2: the simplified story of just believe and you can achieve
21:48
Speaker 2: wonderful things too, No, it takes a great deal of action.
21:52
Speaker 2: But when it's shared, is just believed, then people think
21:55
Speaker 2: there's something magical out there, that the world is just
21:59
Speaker 2: going to open up and bring them stuff. And it's not.
22:03
Speaker 2: It's incomplete. You do have to you have to do
22:06
Speaker 2: the work behind it as well. So that's the first
22:09
Speaker 2: one I think that is really damaging. The other one
22:14
Speaker 2: that I look at is firewalking. You know. Firewalking is
22:18
Speaker 2: often done at the end of a self improvement course workshop,
22:22
Speaker 2: you know, and it's supposed to demonstrate that the people
22:26
Speaker 2: participating have now gained the power through the training that
22:31
Speaker 2: has been provided and they prove that they've gained the
22:34
Speaker 2: power because they do the firewalk. Now, there's a lot
22:38
Speaker 2: of science behind a firewalk. There are certain words that
22:42
Speaker 2: burn hotter than others. You have to tap down the ashes,
22:47
Speaker 2: maybe you sprinkle ashes on the top of it. You
22:50
Speaker 2: teach the people to work with confidence. You see, if
22:53
Speaker 2: you run across a firewalk, your footsteps are going to
22:57
Speaker 2: be heavier, so you're going to sink deeper, so you
23:00
Speaker 2: increase the chance of burning your feet. If you walk
23:03
Speaker 2: slowly and hesitantly, once again, your feet are going to
23:06
Speaker 2: sink down and burn more. But when you walk confidently,
23:10
Speaker 2: you can do it. And especially as they've tap down
23:13
Speaker 2: the ashes, put some ashes on the top. They've got
23:15
Speaker 2: the right kind of wood so that it looks impressive
23:19
Speaker 2: but it doesn't burn so hot. And you can demonstrate
23:23
Speaker 2: some of these things yourself. Lots of cooks are very
23:26
Speaker 2: aware that. You know, you can take something out of
23:29
Speaker 2: the oven. You can touch hot food really easily if
23:33
Speaker 2: you use light fingers. We know what we're supposed to do.
23:38
Speaker 2: And so when you look at fire walking and maybe
23:41
Speaker 2: compare that to walking across ice, we walk differently when
23:46
Speaker 2: there's lots of snow on the ground and it's slippery,
23:49
Speaker 2: you know, we will walk slower, walk more flat footed.
23:54
Speaker 2: Our arms will be out ready to balance us. There's
23:58
Speaker 2: a great deal of additional science that goes behind it.
24:02
Speaker 2: So the firewalk itself, it sounds impressive, it looks really cool,
24:07
Speaker 2: but it's incomplete. It's incomplete, and I think it's damaging
24:12
Speaker 2: when someone says, oh, I've got all the ability, now
24:14
Speaker 2: I'll just go away and do it. What happens with
24:18
Speaker 2: you know, these types of motivational seminars. People come out
24:22
Speaker 2: of it feeling really hyped up, and you ask them
24:25
Speaker 2: about it. Surveys have been done, You ask them about it,
24:28
Speaker 2: and oh, yeah, this was absolutely wonderful. But then you
24:31
Speaker 2: question them six weeks afterwards, and the vast majority of
24:35
Speaker 2: them will say things like, well, they haven't started it yet.
24:39
Speaker 2: It doesn't quite fit their routine, didn't quite work. Perhaps
24:44
Speaker 2: they need to attend another seminar in order to really
24:47
Speaker 2: get the programming in. And it's not anything to do
24:52
Speaker 2: with that, is to do with not understanding that the
24:55
Speaker 2: science behind it, all the applications that go on it
25:00
Speaker 2: takes work. So I think these things give people a
25:04
Speaker 2: false sense of hope that if they just do XYZ
25:08
Speaker 2: without understanding the details behind it, then everything is going
25:13
Speaker 2: to be wonderful in their lives. And then they get
25:15
Speaker 2: disappointed and then they throw everything out, which is a
25:19
Speaker 2: real shame.
25:20
Speaker 1: My guest is Revenda Taylor. She's co author with her
25:23
Speaker 1: husband Eldon Taylor, of the brand new book Mind Training
25:27
Speaker 1: The Science of Self Empowerment. Revender, please share with our
25:31
Speaker 1: listeners where they can get the book and find out
25:33
Speaker 1: more about you and this amazing work.
25:35
Speaker 2: The books available at all fine bookstores. If they don't
25:38
Speaker 2: have it in stock, they can order it. You can
25:40
Speaker 2: get it from Amazon, Bonds and Noble, just wherever you
25:44
Speaker 2: like to buy your books. My website is Revendataylor dot com.
25:49
Speaker 1: And we'll be back with more after these words. On
25:51
Speaker 1: the Own Times Radio Network.
25:54
Speaker 3: The Cutting Edge of Conscious Radio ome Times Radio i
25:58
Speaker 3: own FM. Ome Times Magazine is one of the leading
26:02
Speaker 3: online content providers of positivity, wellness and personal empowerment. A
26:07
Speaker 3: philanthropic organization, their net proceeds are finaled to support worldwide
26:11
Speaker 3: charity initiatives via Humanity Healing International. Through their commitment to
26:16
Speaker 3: creating community and providing conscious content, they aspire to uplift
26:20
Speaker 3: humanity on a global scale. Home Times co creating a
26:24
Speaker 3: more conscious lifestyle.
26:26
Speaker 1: Back on Destination Unlimited. My guests this week Ravenda Taylor.
26:30
Speaker 1: We're talking about her brand new book Mind Training, The
26:34
Speaker 1: Science of Self Empowerment. You had talked about placebo effect
26:39
Speaker 1: earlier in the show. You say that the placebo response
26:43
Speaker 1: provides some of the best evidence for both the power
26:46
Speaker 1: of the mind and in culturated beliefs. Please explain.
26:51
Speaker 2: It does indeed, I mean most people are familiar with
26:54
Speaker 2: the placebo effect. Placebo effect is the thing that they
26:58
Speaker 2: will control for when they are testing out the efficacy
27:02
Speaker 2: of different drugs, and the placebo effect is where your
27:08
Speaker 2: mind plays a role in the outcome of whatever medication
27:16
Speaker 2: that you're working with. But what they have found with
27:19
Speaker 2: the placebo is that if if you administer a capsule
27:26
Speaker 2: as opposed to a pill, the results will be stronger.
27:30
Speaker 2: If you can change the color of the capsule, and
27:33
Speaker 2: that plays a role as well. If you have an
27:36
Speaker 2: injection as opposed to a capsule, the results will be
27:41
Speaker 2: even stronger. People seem to believe that if it looks
27:47
Speaker 2: like it's going to work, then it will work, and
27:50
Speaker 2: therefore it does work. So that's you know, the idea
27:54
Speaker 2: behind the placebo effect. What I found fascinating when I
27:59
Speaker 2: don't deeper into the research with placebos is to do
28:03
Speaker 2: with some of the cultural effects of it. So for example,
28:09
Speaker 2: there was one part that I found a little bit
28:12
Speaker 2: disquieting really but in America, African Americans, black Americans will
28:19
Speaker 2: invariably look at a white capsule as being a stimulant,
28:26
Speaker 2: whereas a black capsule is going to be, you know,
28:29
Speaker 2: help them to relax. But for Caucasian people it's the
28:33
Speaker 2: other way around. It is the black capsule that is
28:36
Speaker 2: a stimulant and the white capsule that will help them
28:41
Speaker 2: to relax. And you know, I found that, I found
28:45
Speaker 2: that a little bit, you know, that has to speak
28:48
Speaker 2: to something a whole lot deeper there. But when you
28:51
Speaker 2: look across across countries, you'll find that in Germany the
28:55
Speaker 2: placebo response for hypertension meds is low. In Brazil, when
29:02
Speaker 2: they look at the placebo response for gastric medicines, you know,
29:07
Speaker 2: there it can be low, but in Germany it's really high.
29:10
Speaker 2: So this is great evidence for both, you know, the
29:14
Speaker 2: idea of the power of and culturation and where we
29:19
Speaker 2: get all our beliefs and also the power of the mind,
29:24
Speaker 2: So it has a double effect in there. The mind
29:27
Speaker 2: has this great ability to heal you, and as we
29:32
Speaker 2: see with placebo, no cibo effect is where it can
29:39
Speaker 2: heal you, but it can hurt you as well. If
29:42
Speaker 2: you believe a particular med that you're going to take
29:46
Speaker 2: is going to have a bad effect on you, then
29:49
Speaker 2: it can create that very bad effect. They actually tested
29:52
Speaker 2: that out with people with asthma. I was really surprised
29:56
Speaker 2: when I heard about this research. But they took people
30:00
Speaker 2: with asthma and gave them a broncho dilator, but told
30:06
Speaker 2: them it was a broncho constrictor and it worked like
30:11
Speaker 2: a constrictor and not as a dilator, so they had
30:14
Speaker 2: more problems breathing and it and the other way around
30:17
Speaker 2: as well. So that shows you quite how powerful the
30:21
Speaker 2: mind is and how much influence it has over your body.
30:26
Speaker 2: And it shows you how important it is what your
30:29
Speaker 2: beliefs are. So there are cultural beliefs out there, you know,
30:34
Speaker 2: across the board. When you look at in culturation in general,
30:37
Speaker 2: you look at aging, there's a great deal of belief
30:40
Speaker 2: out there that aging also means becoming decrepit, and so
30:45
Speaker 2: you can have those people who you know, I have
30:47
Speaker 2: people coming up to me. I don't know if you
30:49
Speaker 2: have the same thing, Victor, but people you know in
30:52
Speaker 2: my own peer group will say things like, we're getting
30:55
Speaker 2: older now we have to slow down, we can't do
30:58
Speaker 2: as much, and I go cancel, cancel, cancel. I don't
31:03
Speaker 2: want to have those beliefs in my mind. I Am
31:06
Speaker 2: going to be as young as possible for as long
31:11
Speaker 2: as possible. Your beliefs play a huge role. So what
31:15
Speaker 2: happens is if you believe that getting older means becoming
31:21
Speaker 2: decrepit and you have to take care of yourself and
31:24
Speaker 2: you have to slow down, will you stop using your
31:27
Speaker 2: body as much, You don't exercise as much, you don't
31:30
Speaker 2: go for long walks, you don't move your body, and
31:35
Speaker 2: it will get stiff in the process. Your body stiffens up,
31:39
Speaker 2: your flexibility gets lost, and it all comes from this belief.
31:43
Speaker 2: So it's like a self fulfilling prophecy. You believe getting
31:48
Speaker 2: older means becoming decrepit, and so because you believe it,
31:52
Speaker 2: that's exactly what happens. And that is a huge example
31:58
Speaker 2: of the power of inculturation in influencing the kind of
32:04
Speaker 2: life that you experience.
32:08
Speaker 1: How does the question of free will come into play with.
32:11
Speaker 2: This, Maybe not so directly with Placebo. I mean, yes
32:18
Speaker 2: it does. I just haven't thought of the two connected
32:22
Speaker 2: in that way. Free will is this idea that all
32:26
Speaker 2: of your actions, all of your choices, have some precursor
32:30
Speaker 2: to them, an event, an influence that is in the past.
32:35
Speaker 2: Robert Sapolski in his book Determined, he covers it. It's
32:38
Speaker 2: a very extensive book. It's a really good book. I
32:41
Speaker 2: would recommend that everybody read the book. He's very, very thorough,
32:45
Speaker 2: but he talks about all the ways that events in
32:49
Speaker 2: the past or genetics can influence what it is that
32:53
Speaker 2: you do, your inculturation, your beliefs, everything has a precursor
32:59
Speaker 2: pre to it. So some of the greatest minds in
33:03
Speaker 2: the world believe that there isn't any such thing as
33:06
Speaker 2: free will. Now I look at that a little bit differently.
33:11
Speaker 2: With free will, it is possible to take charge of
33:14
Speaker 2: some of it. You know, you can't influence everything in
33:17
Speaker 2: your life. You can't really change your genes, but you
33:21
Speaker 2: can change your beliefs. And as we were talking earlier,
33:26
Speaker 2: I you know, these beliefs the subconscious mind making your
33:29
Speaker 2: choices for you. Well, free will isn't free. You have
33:34
Speaker 2: to take charge of it. So you have to take
33:37
Speaker 2: charge of how your subconscious mind gets programmed. You have
33:42
Speaker 2: to learn about these in culturation processes. You have to
33:46
Speaker 2: think about what you watch on TV or the circles
33:49
Speaker 2: of people that you move in. You know, there is
33:52
Speaker 2: the expression that you are as successful as the six
33:56
Speaker 2: closest people to you, and that extends lots of other
34:01
Speaker 2: other areas. When it comes to dieting and fitness and health,
34:06
Speaker 2: you will be the average of the six people around you.
34:09
Speaker 2: As a general rule. When it comes to financial success,
34:13
Speaker 2: it happens the same way. And all of these things
34:18
Speaker 2: just create beliefs that create your reality. But if you
34:24
Speaker 2: take charge of your subconscious mind in whatever way that
34:29
Speaker 2: you can, you pay attention to what goes in what
34:33
Speaker 2: goes into it. You don't take on board what people say.
34:36
Speaker 2: When you understand how it works, it all becomes a
34:39
Speaker 2: lot easier. But there is a whole spiritual aspect for
34:43
Speaker 2: me when it comes to the power of taking charge
34:48
Speaker 2: of your free will. In that when it comes to
34:52
Speaker 2: self empowerment and training your mind. When you put into
34:56
Speaker 2: practice the things that we teach, then your life changes.
35:02
Speaker 2: You know, if you believe it enough to do the work,
35:05
Speaker 2: your life will change. That is an absolute guarantee. But
35:08
Speaker 2: as your life changes, you become part of somebody else's experience. So,
35:14
Speaker 2: if our subconscious minds are programmed by all the information
35:18
Speaker 2: out there, is all going in, you are part of
35:21
Speaker 2: somebody else's experience. So someone looks at you and says,
35:26
Speaker 2: he was successful in this area. He tried out these techniques,
35:30
Speaker 2: he took charge of his subconscious mind, and he is
35:33
Speaker 2: achieving success in these different areas. Perhaps I can do
35:39
Speaker 2: the same. So to me, there is a huge spiritual
35:43
Speaker 2: component to taking charge of some of your free will.
35:47
Speaker 2: You can't do all of it, but the more you
35:49
Speaker 2: take charge of the more you do, the more that
35:52
Speaker 2: you can do. So it keeps on growing within you
35:57
Speaker 2: and it has an outward effect on everybody else around you.
36:01
Speaker 2: So you become the chain. You know, become the change
36:04
Speaker 2: that you want to see in the world. You can
36:07
Speaker 2: spread good ideas not by preaching and teaching, but by
36:12
Speaker 2: by being an example.
36:14
Speaker 1: Absolutely, a significant part of the work that you and
36:18
Speaker 1: Eldon do revolves around forgiveness. Why is forgiveness so important.
36:25
Speaker 2: What happened was, you know, Elton did some research at
36:29
Speaker 2: the Utah State Prison. What he found was, you know,
36:33
Speaker 2: he wanted to create programs that would reduce aggression, recivitism,
36:40
Speaker 2: they want, you know, want wanted the inmate population and
36:45
Speaker 2: just to be more responsive, as I said, less aggressive,
36:48
Speaker 2: nicer across the board. So Elton researched and he interviewed
36:53
Speaker 2: lots of the inmates and what he found was they frequently,
36:59
Speaker 2: almost always were blaming circumstances for why they were in prison. So,
37:06
Speaker 2: you know, perhaps their mom wasn't the best, Maybe mom
37:11
Speaker 2: was on drugs, dad was abusive, next door neighbor got them,
37:16
Speaker 2: you know, doing petty crime. They blamed other outside sources
37:22
Speaker 2: for what had happened in their lives and why they
37:26
Speaker 2: had ended up in prison. So Eldon, when he was
37:28
Speaker 2: working on the programs for the prison system, he chose
37:33
Speaker 2: the forgiveness set. I forgive myself, I forgive all others.
37:39
Speaker 2: I am forgiven and that what happens when you do
37:45
Speaker 2: that is that there is room that opens up for
37:49
Speaker 2: taking responsibility for your life. It reduces the shame, the
37:54
Speaker 2: guilt that can freeze you up in life. You know
38:00
Speaker 2: all of When you blame other people, when you are
38:05
Speaker 2: ashamed of what you have done in the past, it
38:08
Speaker 2: locks you up, It prevents you from moving forward, It
38:11
Speaker 2: doesn't give you a way out of it. When you
38:15
Speaker 2: can release all of that, then you have the ability
38:18
Speaker 2: to take self responsibility. When you take self responsibility for everything,
38:25
Speaker 2: then you have the ability to make change. Think about it, Victor.
38:29
Speaker 2: If a problem in your life is somebody else's fault,
38:32
Speaker 2: there's nothing you can do. But when you take responsibility
38:36
Speaker 2: for it, when you realize that you were part of
38:40
Speaker 2: the equation, that there were things that you could do.
38:43
Speaker 2: Perhaps you could have walked away, perhaps you could have
38:46
Speaker 2: spoken up. When you take responsibility, then you have the
38:51
Speaker 2: ability to do something about your problems. It's very empowering
38:55
Speaker 2: to have that kind of approach and I use that myself, Victor,
39:01
Speaker 2: the approach of self responsibility. I was diagnosed with rheumatoid
39:05
Speaker 2: arthritis after my second child was born, and one of
39:10
Speaker 2: the things that we teach at progressive awareness is, you know,
39:14
Speaker 2: this whole idea of self responsibility, but there is also
39:20
Speaker 2: this idea, you know, when we're when we're looking at
39:23
Speaker 2: these kinds of issues, we look at histories, both significant
39:27
Speaker 2: histories in your life, significant histories of an illness. But
39:32
Speaker 2: we also look at what benefit do we get out
39:36
Speaker 2: of this now? That can be really difficult for lots
39:40
Speaker 2: of people to understand. Now, remember, I want to caution everyone,
39:44
Speaker 2: you know, take this not with a pinch of salt,
39:47
Speaker 2: but with a big dose of practicality in there. Some
39:51
Speaker 2: things you can't take responsibility for. There are some areas
39:58
Speaker 2: where you know bad things have and to good people,
40:00
Speaker 2: and that's not your fault. You didn't put yourself in
40:03
Speaker 2: that situation to be attacked. So you know, with that
40:07
Speaker 2: little disclaimer in there. When it came to my own
40:11
Speaker 2: ra I took on board the teachings really thoroughly. So
40:15
Speaker 2: I looked at the subconscious aspect of it. So I
40:18
Speaker 2: worked with the Inner Talk program, accelerated healing and well being.
40:22
Speaker 2: I played every single night. And then I looked out
40:27
Speaker 2: there and it's like, Okay, why am I creating this
40:32
Speaker 2: illness for me? So this is a technique that worked
40:34
Speaker 2: for me, Victor, why am I creating this for me?
40:38
Speaker 2: What benefits am I getting out of it?
40:41
Speaker 4: Now?
40:41
Speaker 2: You don't have to share this information. The more you
40:44
Speaker 2: question yourself, the more you open up all of these
40:48
Speaker 2: different possibilities, the more possible answers come up for you.
40:54
Speaker 2: I think in my instance, it came down to the
40:58
Speaker 2: fact that my second child was a boy, and I
41:03
Speaker 2: desperately wanted a girl. My entire pregnancy, I was focused
41:08
Speaker 2: on a girl. I thought it was a girl. The
41:10
Speaker 2: pregnancy was really different from my first pregnancy. You know,
41:15
Speaker 2: I had a son before, so I was convinced it
41:19
Speaker 2: was a girl. And then I had a boy. But
41:22
Speaker 2: as most moms will tell you, when you have when
41:26
Speaker 2: you have a child, when you have a second child,
41:29
Speaker 2: that oxytocin here is huge. The love. I was concerned
41:34
Speaker 2: before I had my second child that I wouldn't I
41:37
Speaker 2: would have to take away from my first child some
41:40
Speaker 2: of the love. How can I love a second child
41:42
Speaker 2: as much as I loved my first child. But what
41:45
Speaker 2: happens is you have an explosion of love. Your love doubles.
41:48
Speaker 2: It's a very spiritual experience. So I had had my son,
41:55
Speaker 2: Mama bear came out in full force. No one's touching
41:58
Speaker 2: my son. This is my son. I loved him with
42:01
Speaker 2: every fiber of my being. I could love both of
42:04
Speaker 2: my children with every fiber of my being. So there
42:08
Speaker 2: was a bit of guilt stuck away in my subconscious mind.
42:12
Speaker 2: You know that I wanted a girl, and it's like,
42:15
Speaker 2: but I can't think about that because I love my
42:18
Speaker 2: son absolutely. So there was conflict that was created, and
42:23
Speaker 2: I believe that that in that played a role. So
42:27
Speaker 2: as I looked at all of this, and that wasn't
42:29
Speaker 2: the only area that I looked at, but I looked
42:32
Speaker 2: at everything. I dug around, I changed the programming in
42:36
Speaker 2: my subconscious mind and I managed to find my cure.
42:42
Speaker 2: Fifteen months afterwards, I was on ram eds. It was
42:45
Speaker 2: an ugly time for me, but I came off the
42:49
Speaker 2: rameds and I've not had to take anything for oh
42:54
Speaker 2: twenty three twenty four years now. But that is that
42:58
Speaker 2: is what real response visibility can look like. Once again,
43:04
Speaker 2: I do want to caution this is not an opportunity
43:07
Speaker 2: to blame someone else for the circumstances they are in.
43:12
Speaker 2: That would be one hundred percent wrong to say it's
43:17
Speaker 2: your own fault that you're sex so deal with it.
43:20
Speaker 2: I don't believe in that kind of stuff. I believe
43:24
Speaker 2: absolutely in compassion. That is part of the whole experience.
43:30
Speaker 2: So if somebody else goes through an unfortunate situation. It's
43:35
Speaker 2: about self responsibility. It's not about foisting that self responsibility
43:40
Speaker 2: onto someone else. It's not appropriate. It's an empowerment tool, Victor,
43:45
Speaker 2: more than anything else. It's an empowerment tool. It's a
43:48
Speaker 2: tool you can use personally to make changes in your
43:53
Speaker 2: own life. It should not be taken any further than that.
43:57
Speaker 2: Any further than that would be wrong. Don't put it
43:59
Speaker 2: on somebody else.
44:01
Speaker 1: My guest is Revenda Taylor, her brand new book Mind Training,
44:05
Speaker 1: The Science of Self Empowerment. We'll be back with more
44:09
Speaker 1: after these words on the Own Times Radio network.
44:13
Speaker 5: Humanity Healing International is a small nonprofit with a big dream.
44:18
Speaker 5: Since two thousand and seven, HHI has been working tirelessly
44:22
Speaker 5: to bring help to communities with little or no oh.
44:25
Speaker 5: Our projects are not broad mandates, nor are they overnight solutions,
44:30
Speaker 5: but they bring the reassurance then no one is alone
44:33
Speaker 5: and that someone cares. To learn more, please visit Humanityhealing
44:38
Speaker 5: dot org. Humanity Healing is where your heart is.
44:43
Speaker 1: Imagine yourself being transported to India, to the banks of
44:48
Speaker 1: the Ganga and an Ashram in Rishikesh. Visualize that you
44:52
Speaker 1: are welcome to Satsan with an American Sanyas who shares
44:56
Speaker 1: the wisdom of her guru. Your visualization has manifested. Join
45:02
Speaker 1: Satvii Bagawati Saraswati for inspiration and transformation. Every Thursday at
45:07
Speaker 1: eleven a m Eastern on Old Times Radio.
45:12
Speaker 4: Hi, this is Bellmark. I can find humor in almost anything,
45:14
Speaker 4: but one thing I never laugh about. It is cruelty
45:17
Speaker 4: to animals. If you don't get the joke eitherre Right
45:20
Speaker 4: People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals five on one
45:23
Speaker 4: Front Street in Norfolk, Virginia, two three five one oh.
45:26
Speaker 1: Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week Revenda Taylor
45:31
Speaker 1: her book in conjunction with her husband Eldon Taylor, Mind
45:35
Speaker 1: Training The Science of Self Empowerment. Revender, How does mind
45:41
Speaker 1: training work?
45:44
Speaker 2: Mind training works by learning how your mind is trained,
45:50
Speaker 2: how it's programmed. In the first place, It's about learning
45:55
Speaker 2: how your mind works. You know, the mind body connection.
46:00
Speaker 2: It's a two way street. What we discover is that
46:04
Speaker 2: when you're happy, you smile, but when you smile, you
46:08
Speaker 2: become happy. There are ways to boost the happy chemicals.
46:13
Speaker 2: There are ways to boost the dopamine that can help
46:16
Speaker 2: you achieve your goals better. It's about learning all of
46:21
Speaker 2: these techniques and then putting them into practice. But it
46:25
Speaker 2: begins first. You know, first you have to understand how
46:28
Speaker 2: powerful your mind is. Then you have to understand how
46:33
Speaker 2: it gets programmed, and then you have to take charge
46:37
Speaker 2: of it, take the reins, get into the driver's seat,
46:41
Speaker 2: and actually start tweaking all of these different aspects so
46:45
Speaker 2: that they work better for you. Mind training is not
46:50
Speaker 2: it's not difficult work as in, you know, it's not
46:53
Speaker 2: like going to university and you have to do a
46:55
Speaker 2: full course and all of that. With the book, each
46:59
Speaker 2: chap has exercises at the end. So at the end
47:03
Speaker 2: of each chapter they'll tell you why the information in
47:07
Speaker 2: that chapter was so so significant. You know, what you're
47:10
Speaker 2: supposed to really gain from it. It summarizes it for you,
47:14
Speaker 2: simplifies it, and then it gives you exercises as to
47:18
Speaker 2: how to put it all into practice. Now, the exercises
47:21
Speaker 2: don't take a great deal of time, you know, five
47:24
Speaker 2: ten minutes in the morning, five ten minutes in the evening,
47:28
Speaker 2: just so that you can create the habits required to
47:32
Speaker 2: make these changes permanently throughout your life. It's just at
47:36
Speaker 2: the beginning you have to be aware of it, and
47:39
Speaker 2: you have to you have to think about it. But
47:42
Speaker 2: we very much simplify that in my training because every
47:47
Speaker 2: chapter will have the exercises as to how you can
47:51
Speaker 2: incorporate it into your life. And as I said earlier,
47:55
Speaker 2: by providing the actual science behind it, it gives you
47:59
Speaker 2: a understanding of how it works, so therefore you can
48:03
Speaker 2: tweak it to fit your own personal lifestyle.
48:08
Speaker 1: You share something that I found fascinating. You say that
48:11
Speaker 1: there are those who are addicted to failure, and that
48:14
Speaker 1: there's a neurological, a neurobiological reward system behind this. How
48:18
Speaker 1: can we be rewarded for failure?
48:23
Speaker 2: It's to do with brain chemicals. That's a large that's
48:26
Speaker 2: one aspect of MP. But when you expect to fail,
48:33
Speaker 2: when you always fail at something, and then that something
48:38
Speaker 2: happens again and you fail again, well you end up
48:42
Speaker 2: getting a dopamine hit because you were successful in your
48:47
Speaker 2: prediction of failure. So you know, dopamine feels good, It
48:54
Speaker 2: feels good to the brain. You were right, you were right,
48:58
Speaker 2: and so you get this, You get this kick of dopamine,
49:03
Speaker 2: and so you actually program your system to want that
49:08
Speaker 2: same kick again, So you program it to fail again.
49:13
Speaker 2: It's a really sad aspect, I think, Victor, of you
49:17
Speaker 2: know how this all works. But your mind, your subconscious mind,
49:25
Speaker 2: wants you to It wants you to feel good. It
49:29
Speaker 2: wants you to feel good. And if this is an
49:32
Speaker 2: important goal to you, if failure is an important subconscious
49:37
Speaker 2: goal to you, it's going to reward you for it.
49:41
Speaker 2: So being addicted to failure, the person who says I
49:44
Speaker 2: always fail in relationships, or I'm not good at math,
49:48
Speaker 2: or I'm not good at this, they will reinforce that.
49:53
Speaker 2: And once again, it comes down to changing your belief
49:56
Speaker 2: changing how you talk to yourself. How you talk yourself
50:00
Speaker 2: is really significant because the way you talk to yourself
50:05
Speaker 2: will influence the kind of life that you experience. And
50:09
Speaker 2: that's the basis of the inner talk programs that we produce.
50:14
Speaker 2: Think about it, Victor, if you're having a bad day
50:18
Speaker 2: that we talk to ourselves constantly, you know that conversation
50:22
Speaker 2: is always going on, but on a bad day, that
50:24
Speaker 2: conversation is going to go along the lines of I
50:28
Speaker 2: can't stand this, I'm bored, I'm fed up, I can't
50:30
Speaker 2: wait till I get home, I hate this job, I'm
50:33
Speaker 2: just not good at this. It's full of that. When
50:36
Speaker 2: you replace that talk with positive talk that says I'm
50:40
Speaker 2: having a good day. Life is good, I am good,
50:44
Speaker 2: I'm capable, I can do this. My colleagues are fun,
50:49
Speaker 2: my colleagues are supported. When you change that self talk,
50:54
Speaker 2: then it changes. It's impossible to be depressed. It's impossible
50:59
Speaker 2: to be depressed. Think about that. When you're having these
51:02
Speaker 2: positive this positive self talk going through you, it's impossible
51:07
Speaker 2: to be depressed. And that is the foundation for the
51:11
Speaker 2: inner talk programs that we produce, a progressive awareness. It's
51:16
Speaker 2: an automated way to change the programming from the inside out.
51:22
Speaker 2: And when you're in a belief change, your outward life
51:27
Speaker 2: changes too.
51:29
Speaker 1: You had mentioned earlier that you offer a technique for
51:31
Speaker 1: reducing the tension induced rise of blood pressure.
51:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a combination of techniques. You know, I go
51:42
Speaker 2: through in my training. I talk about some of these
51:45
Speaker 2: different techniques and the value. So there is an aspect
51:49
Speaker 2: there where we talk about the Dushane smile. The Dushane
51:53
Speaker 2: smile is more than just a basic smile. The Dushane
51:56
Speaker 2: smile is the one that goes all the way up
51:58
Speaker 2: to your eyes where your eyes all crinkle up. Now
52:02
Speaker 2: I had come across research that talked about when you
52:06
Speaker 2: just put a pencil in your mouth, you know, you
52:08
Speaker 2: put on so that force is an artificial smile. But
52:12
Speaker 2: putting a pencil between your teeth will help your brain
52:17
Speaker 2: produce and doorphins. It will help you feel happier. And
52:19
Speaker 2: that sounded a bit crazy to me, but I dug
52:22
Speaker 2: in further into this whole idea about smiling and being
52:28
Speaker 2: happier and the effect that has on your life. There
52:31
Speaker 2: was two research studies I came across. One looked at
52:35
Speaker 2: baseball cards. One looked at high school photographs, and what
52:40
Speaker 2: they found was people who were smiling in those pictures
52:44
Speaker 2: when they looked, you know, down the highway, that they
52:47
Speaker 2: would actually live longer. You live longer, you live happier,
52:50
Speaker 2: you're more successful. But when it comes to living longer,
52:54
Speaker 2: they found that people with small smiles in these pictures
52:58
Speaker 2: would live on average two years longer. When they had
53:01
Speaker 2: the full Dushane smile, they could live seven years longer.
53:06
Speaker 2: So the Dushane smile was an important part of it.
53:10
Speaker 2: And the other thing was diaphragmatic breathing. Diaphragmatic breathing if
53:15
Speaker 2: you put your hand just at the bottom of your
53:17
Speaker 2: rib cage, you know where your diaphragm is, and breathe
53:20
Speaker 2: so that you stretch the diaphragm muscles. Breathe slowly, breathe evenly.
53:27
Speaker 2: That has been shown to make you calmer, slow down
53:32
Speaker 2: your heart rate, just help you feel better, help you
53:36
Speaker 2: relax more. So what I did was I combined both
53:40
Speaker 2: of these techniques. I was going through a phase in
53:42
Speaker 2: my life that was really stressful. I'd lost somebody and
53:46
Speaker 2: there were just lots of difficult things going on at
53:49
Speaker 2: the time. So my blood pressure, which has always been excellent,
53:53
Speaker 2: went up. It went up crazy. I think the highest
53:56
Speaker 2: it went up to was like one hundred and eighty
53:57
Speaker 2: over one hundred, which was amazing for me because I
54:01
Speaker 2: always have good blood pressure. So I was going through
54:04
Speaker 2: this traumatic time and it's like, Okay, I'm going to
54:07
Speaker 2: try this technique. So I did that. I put on
54:11
Speaker 2: the blood pressure cuff. I took a few diaframatic breath
54:16
Speaker 2: just slowly, evenly, feeling that the diaphragm muscles expanding, and
54:22
Speaker 2: it feels good. Victor you want to try it at
54:24
Speaker 2: some point. But I did that, and I put on
54:27
Speaker 2: the big Dushane smile at that point my blood pressure
54:32
Speaker 2: was like one hundred and forty five over eighty something
54:37
Speaker 2: or other, and I've actually got the numbers in the book.
54:41
Speaker 2: But doing this technique, I watched my blood pressure drop
54:46
Speaker 2: around thirty points.
54:48
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is diaphramatic breathing, smiling with that
54:53
Speaker 1: Dushane smile, and lived seven years longer. Perhaps that's a
54:56
Speaker 1: wonderful takeaway from the book. My guest, rather than Taylor.
55:00
Speaker 1: Her book is called Mind Training the Science of Self Empowerment. Revender,
55:05
Speaker 1: one more time, please share with our listeners where they
55:08
Speaker 1: can get your book and find out more about you
55:10
Speaker 1: and your work with Elden.
55:12
Speaker 2: The books are available at all fine bookstores, so if
55:15
Speaker 2: your bookstore is not carrying it, they can order it
55:18
Speaker 2: real easily. You can get it directly from Amazon, Bonds,
55:21
Speaker 2: and Noble, wherever you prefer to shop. You can learn
55:26
Speaker 2: more about me and my work just by going to
55:30
Speaker 2: Revenda Taylor dot com. There'll be more information up there,
55:34
Speaker 2: and there's more information about the Mind Training book in
55:38
Speaker 2: there as well.
55:40
Speaker 1: Ravenda, thank you so much for joining us and sharing
55:42
Speaker 1: this amazing work and wisdom.
55:45
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me, Victor. It has been my honor and.
55:48
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on Destination Unlimited. I'm Victor,
55:52
Speaker 1: the Voice Furman. Have a wonderful week.