Latest / The Sean O'Connell Show / Kurt Schmid Previews RSL 2026 season, Season opener tomorrow night against the Whitecaps in Vancouver + more
Transcript
- 0:04Speaker 1: You were listening to about Sean O'Connell's show, your source
- 0:07Speaker 1: for the best youths football coverage. Here's oc from the
- 0:11Speaker 1: Murdoch Hyundai Studio of ESPN seven hundred at ninety two
- 0:15Speaker 1: to one half am.
- 0:20Speaker 2: You've got Olympics going on right now. You've got the
- 0:23Speaker 2: Utah Jazz back in action. Okay, You've got NHL hockey
- 0:26Speaker 2: that we'll be returning shortly after these Olympics are done.
- 0:31Speaker 2: We've got an NFL draft process coming. It is a
- 0:35Speaker 2: busy time to be a sports fan. And guess what,
- 0:37Speaker 2: Real Salt Lake adding itself to the mix. First game
- 0:42Speaker 2: tomorrow against the Vancouver white Caps. We're lucky enough to
- 0:47Speaker 2: catch up with kerch mitcheap soccer officer down at Real
- 0:50Speaker 2: Salt Lake ahead of the season opener. Kurt, Welcome to
- 0:54Speaker 2: the show. How are you.
- 0:55Speaker 3: I'm good?
- 0:56Speaker 2: How are you doing all right? Thanks for giving us
- 0:58Speaker 2: some time today. Is there anything do you have, like
- 1:02Speaker 2: a tradition, a ritual. Do you have something that you
- 1:05Speaker 2: you get out of the way before the season begins,
- 1:07Speaker 2: because the MLS season is this marathon and I imagine
- 1:11Speaker 2: you know, it takes up a lot of your time
- 1:14Speaker 2: and all of your focus when the season's actually going.
- 1:17Speaker 2: So is there anything you do to prepare yourself for tomorrow?
- 1:22Speaker 3: Actually, I think it's a little it's almost the other
- 1:24Speaker 3: way around. I think the off season for me is
- 1:27Speaker 3: is much more I guess, uh, hectic and busy, and
- 1:33Speaker 3: I guess attention attention grabbing. You know, I've gotta got
- 1:37Speaker 3: a lot more to do in the off season. Then
- 1:38Speaker 3: once you know, get all the all the new guys
- 1:40Speaker 3: in the door, then it sort of calms down a
- 1:43Speaker 3: little bit for me, and I can I can think
- 1:44Speaker 3: a little more strategically long term. So I'm not quite
- 1:48Speaker 3: there yet with this season. We've still got a few
- 1:50Speaker 3: more things to button up. But you know, no, no,
- 1:53Speaker 3: no rituals. But I'm looking forward to, uh to watching,
- 1:57Speaker 3: you know, watching some of the guys that we've signed,
- 1:59Speaker 3: and enjoying that.
- 2:02Speaker 2: When we talk about some of those signings, how would
- 2:04Speaker 2: you characterize the additions? I mean, it's a pretty significant
- 2:09Speaker 2: reshaping of the roster. Is reshaping a good characterization? Is
- 2:14Speaker 2: it an overhaul? It's probably not. Doesn't fit into the
- 2:17Speaker 2: rebuild category necessarily, But how do you frame what you've
- 2:21Speaker 2: done with the roster in your own mind?
- 2:24Speaker 3: I think I mean, yeah, I don't know if any
- 2:26Speaker 3: of those words are great encapsulations. I think we've just
- 2:29Speaker 3: looked at you know, we've tried to improve on some
- 2:33Speaker 3: areas that we thought we struggled with last year, and
- 2:37Speaker 3: you know, yeah, when you look back at it, it's
- 2:40Speaker 3: a significant number of potential starters added to the group,
- 2:44Speaker 3: which is a good thing. You know, this is a
- 2:45Speaker 3: league that is constantly improving and growing, and you know
- 2:48Speaker 3: you've got to you don't just you can't just improve
- 2:52Speaker 3: upon yourselves from a priority here. You have to continue
- 2:55Speaker 3: to keep pace with the rest of the league, and
- 2:57Speaker 3: so sometimes that necessitates making a few more more changes
- 3:00Speaker 3: than than normal. But yeah, I think we've we've added
- 3:04Speaker 3: some key pieces that should plug some holes and also
- 3:07Speaker 3: helps guide It helps guide us towards.
- 3:10Speaker 4: A bit of a formation and maybe a slight style.
- 3:14Speaker 3: Shift where we're not changing things completely stylistically, but we're
- 3:18Speaker 3: changing a little bit of the base formation and giving
- 3:21Speaker 3: us some stability both in and out of possession.
- 3:25Speaker 2: So for the novice soccer fan, which I can barely
- 3:29Speaker 2: count myself, that, I mean, that's generous description of my
- 3:32Speaker 2: knowledge of the game. Uh, what what is the I
- 3:35Speaker 2: guess the end goal of making that formation change and
- 3:39Speaker 2: establishing more consistency in the attack and defend.
- 3:44Speaker 4: Yeah, I think in the last couple of years we sort.
- 3:46Speaker 3: Of attacked and defended in different shapes. So we started
- 3:49Speaker 3: in like a four two three one, and when we
- 3:51Speaker 3: attacked it kind of morphed into a.
- 3:53Speaker 4: Three two four one with two tens underneath the striker and.
- 3:56Speaker 3: The two one wing or high and one full.
- 3:59Speaker 4: Back high and the other wing you're tucking in.
- 4:01Speaker 3: So what we've decided to do this year is sort
- 4:04Speaker 3: of stay in a more stable system in both both moments.
- 4:08Speaker 4: So now we attack, you know, and it'll be a
- 4:11Speaker 4: three two.
- 4:11Speaker 3: Four one, and when we defend, the wing backs will
- 4:14Speaker 3: just drop a little bit and it'll be more three
- 4:15Speaker 3: four three four two one. So it's you know, maybe
- 4:19Speaker 3: it's a lot of numbers to throw at you, but
- 4:20Speaker 3: basically from from a team standpoint, you know, like we
- 4:23Speaker 3: were asking our left back to get all the way
- 4:26Speaker 3: up in the attack and all the way back in defending,
- 4:28Speaker 3: and now we're asking a little bit less of the
- 4:32Speaker 3: wing backs in that situation because we've got another center
- 4:34Speaker 3: back there who's going to stay home in both in
- 4:36Speaker 3: both scenarios and so we're trying to get a lot
- 4:39Speaker 3: more attack out of both wing backs, which is one
- 4:41Speaker 3: of the reasons why we added Scenabria as well.
- 4:45Speaker 2: Okay, and again forgive the ignorance here, but like, if
- 4:49Speaker 2: you're that center back or you're those wing backs, how
- 4:52Speaker 2: drastic a change is it from an individual perspective?
- 4:55Speaker 3: Right?
- 4:55Speaker 2: I mean if we're this, is this a completely different
- 4:59Speaker 2: posi to play basically now? Or are you just doing
- 5:03Speaker 2: something that maybe you did earlier in your career or
- 5:05Speaker 2: something that you came up doing maybe a little less complicated.
- 5:08Speaker 2: I'm trying to get a sense of like how quickly
- 5:11Speaker 2: they take a little more.
- 5:12Speaker 3: Yeah, three center backs is always a little bit of
- 5:15Speaker 3: the very more of the variation and not the norm.
- 5:18Speaker 3: So you know, everyone you know has played a lot
- 5:21Speaker 3: of you know, some sort of base for format back
- 5:25Speaker 3: line system like kind of growing up and a lot
- 5:28Speaker 3: of their professional careers, so that's more of a baseline,
- 5:31Speaker 3: and then the three center backs is a little bit
- 5:32Speaker 3: more to the variation. And so learning how to how.
- 5:35Speaker 4: To defend and attack and that is usually something.
- 5:37Speaker 3: That people have to learn more. For us in possession
- 5:42Speaker 3: when we have the ball, it's actually not a big
- 5:44Speaker 3: change for us. You know, we've changed personnel, but in
- 5:47Speaker 3: terms of roles and responsibilities for the various people in
- 5:50Speaker 3: those positions, it hasn't changed a ton. Out of possession
- 5:53Speaker 3: is where it's changed the most. And you know, it's
- 5:55Speaker 3: added a little more thinking to the wing backs and
- 5:57Speaker 3: it's given them a little more freedom to.
- 5:59Speaker 4: Break out and transition as well, So there's.
- 6:01Speaker 3: A little bit more of a difference there. And even
- 6:04Speaker 3: at the three players playing in the attack, you know,
- 6:08Speaker 3: the way we're going to play it this year is
- 6:10Speaker 3: instead of sort of a nine with two tens and anything,
- 6:13Speaker 3: so instead of two attacking midfillers and one center forward,
- 6:16Speaker 3: we have sort of a center forward, a second striker type,
- 6:19Speaker 3: which is someone who's kind of an in between her
- 6:22Speaker 3: does a little bit of both things, and then an
- 6:23Speaker 3: attacking midfielder.
- 6:25Speaker 2: Kirchman is our guest here for a couple more minutes
- 6:27Speaker 2: on the Shot O'Connell Show. In anticipation of RSL starting
- 6:31Speaker 2: their season tomorrow, we check in with the Claret and Cobalt.
- 6:37Speaker 2: As you're making these changes, right, Leadership in the locker
- 6:41Speaker 2: room's got to be pretty important, and with a relatively
- 6:44Speaker 2: young roster, that's always something that I'm much more interested
- 6:48Speaker 2: in who is stepping into that role naturally. Is it
- 6:51Speaker 2: a conversation that you and Jason and whoever else have
- 6:55Speaker 2: to have, like, hey, we really need maybe moon Man
- 6:59Speaker 2: step up a little bit. How does that process go
- 7:01Speaker 2: as you look for more and more leadership to emerge
- 7:04Speaker 2: on the roster itself.
- 7:06Speaker 3: Yeah, you need them to step into the role. You know,
- 7:10Speaker 3: you need the guys that will take that because if
- 7:12Speaker 3: you know, if someone whether it's Pablo or Media or
- 7:14Speaker 3: anyone else, steps in and says, this guy's a leader
- 7:17Speaker 3: now that that doesn't necessarily mean you can lead. So
- 7:20Speaker 3: you know, part of it is having guys that are
- 7:22Speaker 3: naturally gravitate towards that type of role and has players
- 7:26Speaker 3: gravitate towards them. But you know, we've tried to add players.
- 7:29Speaker 3: Last year we were very young. We were like the
- 7:31Speaker 3: four third or fourth youngest team based on minutes played
- 7:35Speaker 3: in MLS. And and this year the pieces that we've had,
- 7:38Speaker 3: we've we've largely tried to add guys with with a
- 7:41Speaker 3: little more experience, who've had you know, has been in
- 7:43Speaker 3: other clubs. You know, Lucas Engel has more experience. We
- 7:46Speaker 3: added DeAndre Edlin you know, towards towards the middle last year,
- 7:50Speaker 3: you know, he's got more experience. Stein Spearings is a
- 7:53Speaker 3: more experienced player. Morgan Gilbogie's a you know, a prime
- 7:57Speaker 3: age player. So you know, we've added some more eperience
- 8:00Speaker 3: the squad. We still have some exciting young players like Gozo,
- 8:04Speaker 3: like you know, Juan Jose Arius who we we acquired
- 8:06Speaker 3: as an exciting young player, you know, and and also
- 8:09Speaker 3: some players like Luca Moysa and Hezar.
- 8:11Speaker 4: Kani coming from the.
- 8:12Speaker 3: Academy, and then you know, I don't want to leave
- 8:15Speaker 3: them out, but I like one one, mass Scenabria, who
- 8:18Speaker 3: who brings a really really interesting pedigree to the club,
- 8:22Speaker 3: having spent so much time in Mexico and and having
- 8:25Speaker 3: the experiences he's had with Rguayan national team. So the
- 8:28Speaker 3: group as a whole has a lot more diverse and
- 8:32Speaker 3: and extent extensive experience as professionals. And that's something that's
- 8:38Speaker 3: going to help the team stabilize and solidify.
- 8:41Speaker 4: And it's also something that's really going.
- 8:42Speaker 3: To help our our club's objective of of developing the
- 8:45Speaker 3: talented young players that we do have and are still
- 8:48Speaker 3: going to be able to get on the field.
- 8:51Speaker 2: Do we have injury updates on a Mecca and Arius
- 8:55Speaker 2: and and Kobe Henry.
- 8:58Speaker 3: No, I mean no, no updates other then what's gone
- 9:01Speaker 3: out today. That's you know, a Meka. We're bringing along
- 9:05Speaker 3: slowly so that when he's back, he's back and we
- 9:08Speaker 3: don't have any recurrences. And you know, there's been a
- 9:11Speaker 3: few other knocks that have occurred this week, and you
- 9:16Speaker 3: know that I don't think anything coming out of that
- 9:18Speaker 3: is going to be too long term, but it is
- 9:20Speaker 3: putting us in a you know a little bit of
- 9:21Speaker 3: a deficit here in week one, that along with some
- 9:24Speaker 3: of the immigration stuff.
- 9:26Speaker 2: So team chemistry is always important, but I've become more
- 9:29Speaker 2: and more interested in recent years with organizational chemistry like
- 9:33Speaker 2: ownership on down from ownership to uh, you know, roster construction,
- 9:39Speaker 2: which is usually a general manager of sorts, a chief
- 9:42Speaker 2: soccer officer, whatever the title is, and then you've got
- 9:45Speaker 2: to have some type of agreement with your coach. Sometime
- 9:48Speaker 2: there is friction there. Sometimes that's just the nature of
- 9:51Speaker 2: a personality or a relationship that goes all the way
- 9:54Speaker 2: down to the roster. How would you characterize the organizational
- 9:58Speaker 2: level chemistry with this are a sales squad right now, I.
- 10:02Speaker 4: Honestly think it's really good.
- 10:04Speaker 3: You know, I've been at a few different clubs now,
- 10:07Speaker 3: you know, Jason has, Pablo has.
- 10:08Speaker 4: I think I think we would.
- 10:10Speaker 3: All probably say something similar, which is that our our alignment,
- 10:14Speaker 3: you know, from ownership, you know, through Jason, myself, Pablo
- 10:18Speaker 3: is all is all pretty good. You know, that doesn't
- 10:20Speaker 3: mean we agree one hundred percent of the time, but
- 10:23Speaker 3: it means that we we're we're we have a good
- 10:25Speaker 3: way of collaborating with each other and seeing seeing things
- 10:28Speaker 3: from different perspectives and you know, working together to find
- 10:32Speaker 3: the right solution and not being afraid to share our thoughts,
- 10:36Speaker 3: but also having the presence of mind that you know,
- 10:38Speaker 3: once we once we all head in the direction, that we.
- 10:41Speaker 4: All get behind it. So you know, as far as where.
- 10:45Speaker 3: I've been, this is this is probably the best that
- 10:47Speaker 3: it's it's been at any of the clubs that I've
- 10:49Speaker 3: been at all.
- 10:51Speaker 2: Right before I let you go handicapped the MLS, especially
- 10:54Speaker 2: the West for me, right now, who are you having
- 10:57Speaker 2: an eye on? Who do you think you're going to
- 10:58Speaker 2: see at the top?
- 10:59Speaker 3: And I'm not going to do that. You do that,
- 11:04Speaker 3: I'm not going to do that like, we're just you know,
- 11:06Speaker 3: I want us to be at the top, but I'm
- 11:08Speaker 3: not going to pick us, you.
- 11:09Speaker 4: Know, because maybe I'm overly superstitious, But you know, I
- 11:12Speaker 4: think that we've got a.
- 11:13Speaker 3: Good team that can compete, you know, for.
- 11:16Speaker 4: For where we want to be, which is in the
- 11:18Speaker 4: top four of the conference, so we can have hope
- 11:19Speaker 4: field advantage and give ourselves a chance to compete for
- 11:23Speaker 4: for for an MLS Cup.
- 11:26Speaker 2: We'll keep our fingers crossed for exactly that. Kurt, thanks
- 11:29Speaker 2: so much for your time today.
- 11:30Speaker 3: Yeah, no problem, Thank you.
- 11:32Speaker 2: Kerchmid, RSL Chief Soccer Officer,