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World War 3.... again? | HBR News 542 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: This is HBr News number five forty.
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  Speaker 2: Two, World War three again, where we discussed the news
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  Speaker 2: of the week and give it the Badger treatment. Hello everybody,
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  Speaker 2: well this week and that you're laughing at all of
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  Speaker 2: this absurdity so that you are.
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  Speaker 1: Not consumed by it. I'm your host, Brian.
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  Speaker 2: I'm joined by, as always, my lovely co host Hannah
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  Speaker 2: I guess there was something that happened over the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I had to like do a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of digging to find it. But apparently we're gonna be
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  Speaker 2: talking about this little dispute going on, this gentleman's quarrel
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  Speaker 2: that's happening in the Middle East, shocking statistics regarding grooming
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  Speaker 2: let us get into today's stories. All right, This one's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be a bit long because I think that there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of backstory that led to this moment, and
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  Speaker 2: I think that a lot of people who are chiming
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  Speaker 2: in on this, specifically talking about Iran and what happened
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  Speaker 2: over the weekend. I think that we got to take
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  Speaker 2: in the full context and then sort of address it
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  Speaker 2: from that perspective.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so that's that's there's like eighty years of full
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  Speaker 4: context there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and at least with the United States, there's like
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  Speaker 2: at least you know, since like eighty one.
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  Speaker 4: But anyway, look, the ongoing conflict ninetee.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, So the ongoing conflict old place.
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  Speaker 2: It's a yeah, it's an old place. The ongoing conflict
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  Speaker 2: between the United States, Israel, and Iran, which escalated into
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  Speaker 2: full scale war, according to some on February twenty eight,
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, stems from decades of tensions, but was
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  Speaker 2: immediately triggered by failed nuclear negotiations and Iran's brutal suppression
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  Speaker 2: of nationwide protests in early twenty twenty s which some
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  Speaker 2: people seem to have already forgotten what's going on. Joint
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  Speaker 2: US Israeli airstrikes targeted Iranian leadership, nuclear facilities, missile sites,
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  Speaker 2: and air defenses, killing Supreme Leader Ayatola Ali Khamen Khamani. Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna butcher the names and other top officials, including
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  Speaker 2: the Defense Minister and IRGC commanders. And also they had
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  Speaker 2: appointed another Supreme leader and then he was killed shortly
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  Speaker 2: after by US forces as well. It's almost like the
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  Speaker 2: US was like spawn camping. Iran retaliated with hundreds of
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  Speaker 2: ballistic missiles and drones, striking Israel US bases in Iraq,
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  Speaker 2: Kuwait and other goal states, as well as energy infrastructure.
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  Speaker 2: The war has expanded regionally. Israel launched offensives against Hesbola
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  Speaker 2: in Lebanon, killing dozens, while Iranian back militias in Iraq
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  Speaker 2: and Yemen have joined the fray. As of March third,
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, US and Israeli forces have conducted over
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  Speaker 2: two and two thousand strikes, achieving air superiority over Tehran,
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  Speaker 2: but Iran has closed the Strait of Hormuz, disrupting global
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  Speaker 2: oil surprise supplies and causing prices to serge nine percent.
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  Speaker 2: President Trump has signaled the campaign could last weeks. I
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  Speaker 2: think he specifically said four weeks, aiming for regime change,
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  Speaker 2: though no ground invasion is confirmed. Diplomatic efforts falter, with
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  Speaker 2: Trump projecting Iranian overtures as too late, while global markets
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  Speaker 2: tumble and evacuations occur across them.
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  Speaker 1: At least.
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  Speaker 2: US Iran relations began amicably in the mid nineteenth century,
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  Speaker 2: but soured in the twentieth. The nineteen fifty three CIA
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  Speaker 2: orchestrated coup ousted Prime Minister Mohammed Mazadeig after he nationalized
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  Speaker 2: Iran's oil, reinstalling Shah Mohammad Raza pav Lavi at a
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  Speaker 2: US as a US ally. During the Cold War, the
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  Speaker 2: US provided military aid to Iran, viewing it as a
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  Speaker 2: bulwark against Soviet influence. Relations collapsed with the nineteen seventy
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  Speaker 2: nine Islamic Revolution, which overthrew the Shah revolutionary seized the
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  Speaker 2: US embassy in Tehran, holding fifty two Americans hostage for
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  Speaker 2: four hundred and forty four days. The US severed ties,
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  Speaker 2: imposed sanctions and backed Iraq in the nineteen eighty to
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  Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight Iran Iraq War, which killed over a million.
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  Speaker 2: Tensions persisted through Iran's support for proxy militias, terrorist acts
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  Speaker 2: like the nineteen eighty three Beirut bombings, and nuclear program.
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  Speaker 2: The twenty fifteen jp JCPOA nuclear deal under Obama eased sanctions,
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  Speaker 2: but Trump withdrew in twenty eighteen, reimposing maximum pressure and
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  Speaker 2: assassinating IRGC commander Kassem Solimani in twenty twenty, which was
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  Speaker 2: also supposed to start World War three but didn't. Biden
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  Speaker 2: attempted revival, but talks stalled amid Irans uranium enrichment and
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  Speaker 2: regional aggression, leading to twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six
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  Speaker 2: protests and the current situation. Before the nineteen seventy nine revolution,
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  Speaker 2: Iran under Shah Pavlavi was a modernizing monarchy aligned with
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  Speaker 2: the West, emphasizing pre Islamic Persian heritage over religious identity.
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  Speaker 2: It's also worth pointing out that in Iran, it's not
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  Speaker 2: really a Muslim country. It is a multi let's say,
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  Speaker 2: a multi theological country that was under a Muslim rule
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  Speaker 2: or a Muslim dictatorship. So it was like, it's not
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  Speaker 2: like Iraq or other Islamic countries. So the Shaws white what.
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  Speaker 3: Every country in every country in the West is under
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  Speaker 3: communist dictatorship, even though not the present of people don't
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  Speaker 3: want to exactly.
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  Speaker 2: The SHA's White Revolution in nineteen sixty three introduced land reforms,
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  Speaker 2: women suffrage, and industrialization, boosting literacy from fifteen percent to
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  Speaker 2: over fifty percent and expanding universities. Tehran became a cosmopolitan
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  Speaker 2: hub with Western fashion, cinemas, and nightlife. However, the regime
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  Speaker 2: was authoritarian, suppressing descent via the Savakh Secret Police, which
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  Speaker 2: tortured and executed opponents. Economic growth favored urban elites, exacerbating
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  Speaker 2: rural urban divides and inequality, while secular policies alienated conservative
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  Speaker 2: clergy like Ayatola ru Ruhola Komani exiled in nineteen sixty
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  Speaker 2: four for criticizing the Shah. Life for Iranians under the
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  Speaker 2: Shaw varied by class and location. Urban middle classes enjoyed
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  Speaker 2: expanded education, women's rights, which I put in like voting, divorce,
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  Speaker 2: reforms and economic opportunities amid oil booms with Tehran boasting
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  Speaker 2: modern infrastructure and freedoms like unveiled women and mixed gender socializing.
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  Speaker 2: Notice how it's all revolving around women.
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  Speaker 1: Weird.
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  Speaker 2: However, rural peasants faced land inequality despite reforms, and political
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  Speaker 2: freedoms were curtailed. Trade unions and opposition parties were banned,
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  Speaker 2: press was censored, and thousands imprisoned or tortured by Savakh.
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  Speaker 2: Religious conservatives resented secularization as Westification. I get that, fueling
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  Speaker 2: resentment that erupted in nineteen seven and nineteen seventy seven
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  Speaker 2: to nineteen seventy nine protests. Overall, it was a period
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  Speaker 2: of rapid progress shadowed by repression and cultural alienation. Iranians
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  Speaker 2: reactions to the twenty twenty six war are polarized. Anti
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  Speaker 2: regime protesters, emboldened by January twenty twenty six massacres. Thousands
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  Speaker 2: were killed by the way in January twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 2: celebrate strikes as a chance for liberation, with university students
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  Speaker 2: in particular clashing with security forces and some urging overthrow. However,
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  Speaker 2: regime supporters mourned Kamanie rallying in Tehran and viewing attacks
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  Speaker 2: as foreign aggression. And Internet blackout stifles coordination, but defiance
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  Speaker 2: persist in cemeteries and campuses. The diaspora is split. Some
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  Speaker 2: hailed regime change, others fears civilian deaths and chaos. Overall,
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  Speaker 2: youth dissillusionment drives anti regime sentiment, while nationalists unite against invasion.
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  Speaker 2: A fair assessment views the conflict as a high stakes
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  Speaker 2: escalation Iran's nuclear ambitions, proxy warfare through Hezbolah, the Huthis
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  Speaker 2: and Hamas, and domestic repression. Twenty twenty six massacres prompted
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  Speaker 2: US Israeli preemptive action amids stalled talks Iran, But remember
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  Speaker 2: Trump said he tried to work out a deal with
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  Speaker 2: them for a while, and basically it just wasn't working out.
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  Speaker 2: Iran perceives it as regime change, aggression, violating sovereignty, retaliating regionally,
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  Speaker 2: and risking wider war. Critics argue US involvement lacks congressional approval,
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  Speaker 2: echoes IRAQT failures, and ignores diplomacy's potential. Proponents see it
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  Speaker 2: as neutralizing a threat, sponsoring terrorism, and nearing nuclear breakout.
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  Speaker 2: Absent de escalation, it could fragment or fragment I guess
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  Speaker 2: fragment or fragment Iran, but spark chaos, refugee crises, and
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  Speaker 2: global economic fallout. The US potentially benefits by degrading Iran's
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  Speaker 2: nuclear program, weakening its proxies, and bolstering allies like Israel
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  Speaker 2: and Gulf states like Saudi Arabia. Regime change could foster
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  Speaker 2: pro western Iran, reducing terrorism and stabilizing energy markets. Long term, However,
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  Speaker 2: risks outweigh escalation draws in Russia China spikes oil prices
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  Speaker 2: already plus nine percent, incurs casualties and burdens US resources
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  Speaker 2: amid public opposition. Past interventions suggest prolonged instability, refugee flows
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  Speaker 2: and anti US backlash, potentially harming global standing without a
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  Speaker 2: clear victory. Casualties in the twenty twenty six war. As
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  Speaker 2: of March third today, seven hundred and eighty seven killed
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  Speaker 2: in Iran, mostly civilians, including one hundred and eighty at
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  Speaker 2: a school, six US service members fifty two and elevenon
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  Speaker 2: eleven in Israel, eight in Gulf states like UAE and Katar,
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  Speaker 2: and others in Iraq and Syria. Injuries number of in
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  Speaker 2: the thousands. Historically, US Iran tensions caused vast losses Iran War,
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  Speaker 2: Iraq War one to two million dead, proxy conflicts, two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and forty one US marines in nineteen eighty three
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  Speaker 2: in Beirut, and recent strikes like the twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 2: to twelve Day War where they lost about one h
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  Speaker 2: and ninety Iranians. Total US Iran related casualties span millions
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  Speaker 2: across all of the decades.
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  Speaker 1: So this is like an in I want.
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  Speaker 2: To talk about it because I think there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of oversimplification of what's going on. Some people are just
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  Speaker 2: saying this is for Israel because they they're just jbrained,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that we are. It would do us
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  Speaker 2: a greater service to try to be a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more reasonable. I think that you get to a point
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  Speaker 2: where you think that because Israel benefits, it's not good
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  Speaker 2: for anyone else, and that's kind of retarded and I
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  Speaker 2: think that. But as far as like what I think
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  Speaker 2: about what happened is, I don't know yet.
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  Speaker 1: I'm on the fence. I spoke to some people.
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  Speaker 2: I don't Some people want their identities protective, but let's
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  Speaker 2: just say they're friends of the channel, and they're they've
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  Speaker 2: also been on our show before and they're in the
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  Speaker 2: military or they or their veterans, and some of them
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  Speaker 2: were very much in support of this and said this
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  Speaker 2: should have happened forty years ago, like back when Ronald
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  Speaker 2: Reagan was in office, and that was that the whole
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  Speaker 2: thing was going on. And there was at least one
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  Speaker 2: person that I spoke to that's like kind of on
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  Speaker 2: the fence, but he wants to see how it shakes out.
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  Speaker 2: So but there is definitely like a desire to see
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  Speaker 2: this yet dealt with in about us. I guess like
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  Speaker 2: a minimal damage as possible. Now it's too early at
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  Speaker 2: this stage to know for sure about anything regarding this,
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  Speaker 2: but I think that we should just we in my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: you guys say whatever you want, whatever you want to
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  Speaker 2: say in the in the comments or Hannah and Mike,
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  Speaker 2: But in my opinion, I think that we shouldn't have a,
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  Speaker 2: you know, definite let's say, claim to know anything that
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  Speaker 2: we don't know, because a lot of what this administration
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  Speaker 2: is doing militarily speaking, is very much keeping it close
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  Speaker 2: to the chest whenever they're approached by press or always
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  Speaker 2: saying what are you gonna do? And like, why would
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  Speaker 2: we tell you? That's basically telling the enemy what we're
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  Speaker 2: up to. So I would look at the track record
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  Speaker 2: in my opinion, and I'll say that when I think
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  Speaker 2: it was like Abdul al Bagdaddy was killed, everybody's like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, this is going to start a war.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't do it.
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  Speaker 2: Then when we went after the the uranium or whatever
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  Speaker 2: that they were building up in Iran, they were like,
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  Speaker 2: this is it.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to war.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't happen when we went into Venezuela and took
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  Speaker 2: out Maduro.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, war it's coming.
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  Speaker 2: Because you know Maduro was in talks with China and
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  Speaker 2: Iran and Russia, and that didn't happen, at least not yet.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, this is like the same thing I'm
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  Speaker 2: I don't like the obviously, like to say I'm against
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  Speaker 2: war is kind of stupid because I don't think anyone
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  Speaker 2: hears for it. But I don't want this to turn
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  Speaker 2: into a prolonged thing like what happened in two thousand
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  Speaker 2: and three. But I do think that two thousand and three,
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  Speaker 2: which is you know, Iraq and all that, is something
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  Speaker 2: that we shouldn't allow to keep us from making decisions
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  Speaker 2: that we have to make. So that's another thing I
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  Speaker 2: want to put out there as well. But anyway, so.
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  Speaker 1: Then go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: We also have to remember there there is pretty much
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  Speaker 4: a straight line trajectory from from Operation Ajax in nineteen
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  Speaker 4: fifty three up through the hostage crisis in nineteen seventy nine,
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  Speaker 4: in the Iran Contra scandal following that to that. This
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  Speaker 4: is Trump going in and attempting to clean up the
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  Speaker 4: colossal epic mess that has been created by the history
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  Speaker 4: of US intervention is an intervention in uh inner in
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  Speaker 4: and and then followed up with the history of I
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  Speaker 4: would I would say wimpy negotiation styles. And if you
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  Speaker 4: if you're unable to make a deal with Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 4: who professionally makes deals and generally tries to find a
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  Speaker 4: way for everybody to walk away satisfied when he makes deals,
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  Speaker 4: there is something wrong with your end of the deal.
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  Speaker 4: That is that is just the way it is. Like
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  Speaker 4: everything else. You know, There's there's plenty of things to criticize,
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  Speaker 4: uh as far as the man's life has gone, but
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  Speaker 4: that is one thing that he does very well, and
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  Speaker 4: he has always done very well, and he's an expert
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  Speaker 4: at it. If Iran had not wanted future conflict, they
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  Speaker 4: would have made a deal, and they didn't, so this
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  Speaker 4: had to happen. It's very unfortunate, and I really hope
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  Speaker 4: it never escalates into a ground war. I really don't
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  Speaker 4: want to see that happen. But I don't think that
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  Speaker 4: Trump will let it happen. I don't think he'll allow it,
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  Speaker 4: and I think he can stop it. So I do
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  Speaker 4: have hope for this, but that history, there isn't any
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  Speaker 4: way to come out of that without doing something like this.
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  Speaker 4: And I know a lot of people are saying, well,
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  Speaker 4: we caused this, We should have just gotten out of there,
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  Speaker 4: We should have just stopped the conflict with them. There
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  Speaker 4: is no such thing when you set off a rabid dog.
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  Speaker 4: You poke it with a stick and it breaks down
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  Speaker 4: the fence and it's chasing you. You can't just stop
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  Speaker 4: and say Okay, I'm done, stop chasing me. That's not
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  Speaker 4: how that works. So there was no alternative really to this,
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  Speaker 4: and that, like I said, is unfortunate as it is.
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  Speaker 4: This is essentially Trump shooting a rabbit dog, and he
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  Speaker 4: should have done it the first time around. We're in
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  Speaker 4: this situation now because he didn't do it during his
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  Speaker 4: first administration. And I understand that he had a lot
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  Speaker 4: going on during his first administration, and he didn't have
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  Speaker 4: the best advisors, and he didn't have the situation where
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  Speaker 4: he realizes now that the entire bureaucracy is his enemy,
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  Speaker 4: you know, unless he replaces them. But and that's simply
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  Speaker 4: the way it is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what pains me the most is to see so
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  Speaker 3: many of my friends sort of falling out with each other,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, people who I've ever met but respect,
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  Speaker 3: falling out with each other so hard over this. Going
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  Speaker 3: into it, it was so hard to predict who was
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  Speaker 3: going to go which way among the proverbial right. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: the proverbial left are just going to go with Trump
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  Speaker 3: bad and Israel bad no matter what. So this is
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  Speaker 3: a slam dunk for them. They don't even have to
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  Speaker 3: think about it, and that's them in their element. But
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  Speaker 3: among the proverbial right, there is a perturbing split, and
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  Speaker 3: it's because of what they think they know. People keep
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  Speaker 3: making the mistake that they can see through the fog
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  Speaker 3: of war so clearly and so far reaching that they
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  Speaker 3: will get really quite vicious with everyone who thinks they
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  Speaker 3: can see through it in a different direction. But when
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  Speaker 3: it comes to the fog of war, it takes years,
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  Speaker 3: if not decades, to even begin to get a clear
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  Speaker 3: picture of what's going on, especially if that war has
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  Speaker 3: been going on for as long as that. That's how
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  Speaker 3: we can already tell that the billions of our taxes
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  Speaker 3: that have been pumped into the Ukraine War have been
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  Speaker 3: a senseless waste, because it's been four years and nothing's
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  Speaker 3: been achieved except the torturous death of millions of men.
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  Speaker 3: But hey, it's not our men. It's not men who
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  Speaker 3: are of any use to us, So fuck it. Who cares?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Whereas the Venezuela strike, maybe you could have been forgiven
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  Speaker 3: if on day one you thought it would result in
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  Speaker 3: another forever war, but it did by all accounts, there
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  Speaker 3: wasn't even a day too. It goes to show you
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  Speaker 3: how little there is to know or to be sure
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: about in the early stages. And I've been dreading laying
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: any of this out because every detail for or against
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: it's going to piss off everyone in the opposing camp.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: The only thing you can do is line it all
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: up together in a stack of But a lot of
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Iranians want America to save them from their government, and
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: they seem to be celebrating the death of the Eyetala.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: But a lot of Americans want foreigners to save them
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: from their government, and they will dance in the street
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: when Trump dies. Would that make it okay? And this
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: all looks like it's in Israel's interests, but one might
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: say it's also in a America's interest to get all
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: that oil so China doesn't get it. But Iran only
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: accounts for three percent of China's oil and Venezuela only
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: accounts for two percent of china soil. But at least
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: this is getting rid of as of many An international
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: terrorists cell hell bent on the whole death to America thing,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: But not many of those Iranian terrorists have actually made
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: it into the West, be it America or Europe. If
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: you could, if you can have a stab at Pakistan,
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: that would certainly do us as solid. And they actually
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: do have nukes like now for what it's worth, but
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: I suppose they're saving them all for India or perhaps
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Afghanistan at this point that Pakis and Afghanians have decided
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: to start skirmishing. In case all didn't know, It's like
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: a bar fight. At this point, one scuffle breaks out,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: so another one breaks out as well, because why the
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: fuck not, Hey, as long as it's muzzies fighting, muzzies,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: don't interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake. Dividing
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: the Muslim world helps prevent it from consolidating into a
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: caliphate that does seem to be what Israel is for,
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: albeit not even a sensibly. But Iran was already a
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: diversive force in that sense, what with it being a
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Shea state surrounded by sunny states, and she and Sunnis
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: hate each other even more than Protestants Catholics hate each other,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: considerably more so, Iran was never going to be part
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: of the caliphate, especially given that its theocratic regime has
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: never really been It has never really had the approval
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: of its populace on the whole, So this isn't really
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: benefiting Israel, either in the long term or the short term.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Israel is getting this shit wrecked as well as long,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: along with any other country in the vicinity of Iran,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: as Iran holds every missile it has in every direction
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: just to make sure that it's going to makeing use
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: of all of its downloadable content. But at least Israel
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: isn't going to have to deal with the quote unquote refugees.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be good old Europe and our batshit crazy
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: government siphoning millions of theocratic criminals in the flimsy pretends
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: that they're the good guys and this and that this
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: is all our fault. But hey, at least Iranian women
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: get to dress like whores now. But historically that doesn't
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: seem to solve any problems lidies and gentlemen, does it.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Women's rights in general doesn't seem to solve any problems.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, bully for you Iranian ladies. You get to
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: put half naked pictures of yourself on the internet, now,
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: whoop do you do? You better hope groc doesn't see
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: you doing that and is able to draw half naked
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: pictures of you on Twitter, because then we'll all lose
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: our rights to use Twitter. Fucking golf clap. Needless to say,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: no one on any side of this flame war seem
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: to give a shit about Iranian men's rights, but whatever,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: that's part of the course. Women give the thumbs up,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: men get killed. Women give the thumbs down, men get killed,
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: and so on and so forth forever. And of course
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: the Republicans may be a disappointment, as they often are,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: but the Democrats would give you exactly the apocalypse they've
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: promised you, So don't be pretending that this wouldn't have
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: happened if under a Harris administration. So yeah, the closest
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: we can get to a consensus is I don't know.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: The Iranian government is a counterproductive broken machine. The Israeli
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: government is a counterproductive broken machine. The US government is
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: a counterproductive broken machine, and every European government is a
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: counterproductive broken machine. I'll shure you could see the theme
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: developing here. If you find yourself defending the Ayatollah, or
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: defending Nesnyahu, or even defending Trump. If you find yourself
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: praising any of these counterproductive machines because they're not as
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: bad as the other ones, well I think you might
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: be missing the point. Can any of us ever have
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: the kind of revolution where we actually diminish the power
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: of the counterproductive broken machine that rules over us instead
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: of just occasionally changing its regime personally, That's the only
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: thing I can see through the fog of war. I'm
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: thinking maybe the dodgy cunt who keeps turning on the
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: artificial fog machine might just be the man behind the
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: curtain or maybe even the woman behind the curtain. And
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: I too, am just yelling into the void. But it's
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: my job to yell into the void. And if it's
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: your job to fine, let's keep squabbling. At least it
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: keeps us laughing at this is sadness, so we're not
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: consumed by.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Radio. Yeah.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I mean again, my my final thing is I'm not
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: thrilled with this, but like, I don't know what's gonna happen,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: and neither does anyone who's watching this. And you know,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I get I get a lot of shit, you know
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: about about voting for him from certain people. Some people
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: that watch us, like they think that if Kamala Harris
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: was in office, this wouldn't have been a lot worse,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: probably would have been this plus infinity migrants. But on
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: the plus side, I will say that if there are
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Iranian refugees, uh, take solace in the fact that Iranians
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: have a much higher IQ than most other people in
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: the Middle East because they're not really it's not really
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: a Muslim nation, so it's just sort of like, you know,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: it's a it's a nation of mixed religions under a
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: theocratic regime, or at least it was. The other thing
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I was going to add is that that school that
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: got bombed, it was not bombed by the Americans or Israel.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: It was bombed by Iranians.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: So some of the collateral damage that has harmed people
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: was done by their own people.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: So I want to add one more thing too, because
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of people make the comparison between
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: protesters here in the United States and protesters in in Iran,
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: and I need to point something out, all right, Ever
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: since nineteen fifty three when the US installed a totalitarian
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: government there and then the revolution installed another totalitarian government
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: to replace that one, and they've had a totalitarian government
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: ever since, Iran has murdered its protesters for protesting. We
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: have not done that in this country. The closest the
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: United States has ever gotten to that during that time
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: has really been conflicts between violent protesters and inexperienced military,
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: young young military in the Vietnam War. During the Vietnam War,
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: and if I remember right, the death toll was four
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: and there's a song about it, and it doesn't tell
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: about how those protesters burned down after city before the
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: night before, and how one of the the deaths was
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: a gawker who had come out of the dormitories to
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: gawk at the protests after being told not to, and
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: it was hit by a stray bullet, not shot at.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Also there's a sleep ubbet and the other three men
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: who's who we don't even care about who died that
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: particular protests.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: And and all of those, all of those were in
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: the midst of what could be considered like what she
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: was doing wasn't violent toward any person. But again, they
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: weren't hauled off and executed. They were killed in action
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: in a violent conflict. We haven't had or where ran
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: stops in and just completely floods the square with bullets
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: and and there are just piles of bodies afterwards. Nothing
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: like that has happened here. We haven't had that. We
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: haven't had a tenement square, we haven't you know, had
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: anything like that. Now that the Democrat leadership did wrongly
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: incarcerat a group of people for significantly longer than they
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: would have been incarcerated if they were if they had
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: committed all of the crimes they were accused of and
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: had done so under a legal regime that was acting
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: correctly under the law. But again, they still didn't murder
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: those people, so it's not really a good comparison.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, we're gonna move on to the next story,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: but let us know what you guys think about this
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: one of the comments. Again, this is developing, so I
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: don't know, like I'm not expecting anything major to break
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: through for a while on it. But yeah, I'd like
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: to know what you guys think. Please leave us, send
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: us a message, or send us a super chat, or
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: just leave us a comment. By the way, I did
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: get a super chow the other day. I want to say,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: it was like two days ago. So I'm gonna read
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: it out now. It must have come out after Allison
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: and I were done with our show, So an anonymous
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: person sent us fifty dollars. Thank you anonymous and says,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: in high school, I befriended Maria, a by girl obsessed
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: with anorexia, pro anaforums and serial killers. Excuse me, she
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: loved a story about a teen prostitute lovingly murdered by
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: her killer and used the phrase murdering lovingly. She was
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: a manipulative stage in ambush with her ex then lined
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: the police that I was stalking her. I now suspect
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: she pushed anorexic girls towards suicide online and that my
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: simping for her could have gotten me killed. Wow, that
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: is dark. All right, Well, thanks for the supercha superchowd.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Rather anonymous, if you're listening, I know that you this
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: one got put through two days ago, but maybe you're
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: here now, and uh yeah, like thanks for the super chowd.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry that happened.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Speaking of which, I got hard to even just call
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: that red flags. That's like, yeah, right, red red fabric
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: manufacturing plant. That's just insane.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: No, it's absolutely like way out there. Well, you know what,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: there's no because I gotta say that this is it
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: is possible that this person was, you know, may like
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: sort of like got into this belief system online, maybe
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: in like Tumblr or like with her online friends or something.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Because that's just.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Like lovingly murdered, and that anorexia forums and stuff like that.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: We we actually could probably do a whole show on
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: the toxic and bizarre play acting fantasy life of teenage
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: girls and some of the craziness that it has led to,
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: like the the slenderman killing.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a slender man killing.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: They didn't, Yeah, they didn't. If I remember, they didn't
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: actually kill that girl. They tried to kill her and
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: she survived, but it was still an attempted attempted murder.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: But there's been other prior to that, like before the
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: existence of slender Man. One of my friends, like I
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: was all into horror novels and stuff like that, and
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: she thought I would like this true crime book. And
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: it was kind of like a train wreck, one of
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: these things that it's not entertaining. It's because it's real,
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: and it was very upsetting, but you can't look away
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: once you've started reading it. And I went through the
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: whole thing too, because I needed to find out if
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: it was as bad as it looked, and from the
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: beginning it never got any better. And essentially, this group
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: of four girls were really good friends, well really close friends,
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: and they decided that one of the three of them
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: decided that the fourth one had to die, and they
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: just they had this active fantasy life around this. There
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: was no slender Man involved, there was no nothing. They
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: had lesbian relationships and all that, but there was no
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: there was nothing else really abnormal about these girls, nothing
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: unusual about them other than that they fell into the
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: minority of people that are homosexual instead of bisexual, and
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: lots of other people that are in that category have
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: not committed any acts of violence whatsoever. Right, so this
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: had to be more connected to just their psychology as girls.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: And they brutally, brutally murdered this fourth girl, and you know,
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: the unraveling of the case by police and everything never
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: did uncover anything other than these girls were nuts, They
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: were sociopathic, They were violent and mean, and it was
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: essentially they mean girled her to death with physical violence
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: and not just the usual cry belaying that girls involved
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: in this kind of behavior is girls when they're in
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: junior high in high school can get themselves caught up
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: in cult like mentalities as a result of their need
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: for a social, cohesive social group, and it can hit
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: it can become pathological. They can end up their relational
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: aggression can turn to physical violence, or can end up
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: they can end up bullying someone to death. This is
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: this is not unusual behavior. And so there are many
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: many forums that are pro anorexia. There are many many
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: forums where yeah it's xerox has it right. The Twisted
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants yes, that is That is
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: a very good way to put it, and it is
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: very twisted, and they do really fuck with each other mentally,
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: and they are violent toward each other physically, and without
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: the intervention of mature adult women, who are becoming very
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: scarce in the world, this grows. And since most people
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: aren't properly monitoring their kids online, they're not recognizing the
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: danger that their kids are in when they go into
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: forums and talk about whatever they want to with whoever
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: they want to, with no adult intervention. This is a major, widespread,
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: serious issue in the world, especially in the Western world,
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: where we act like girls are adult women the moment
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: they turn thirteen and they should just be able to
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: do whatever they want. If you're not strict with your kids,
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: you are doing them a great disservice. And if you
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: allow your kids, male or female, to be on the
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: internet without adult supervision, without knowing who they're talking to
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: and what they are saying, you are you might as
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: well be sending them into downtown Chicago unsupervised at that age,
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: with lots of money to spend. It's really, really I
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: can't emphasize this enough, and you'll probably hear it from
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: me again because stuff like this happens all the time,
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: and this is the way I'm going to react every
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: single time.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you for that.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: I got a super chow from Richard Bierre and then
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: we're gonna move on to the next story. So he
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: gives us five dollars and says I will see it again.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: All girls and women are by The difficult part is
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: determining if it's bisexual or bipolar.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: I don't think we can't do both.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they's totally capable of both. All right, let's move
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: on to next story. Let us know you guys think
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: about this. One of the comments, Okay, discovery interesting. Not
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: that surprising for us here at running Honey Badger Radio.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: But it's good that someone has looked at the numbers.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: So.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Investigative journalist Katherine Herridge, pictured here in a February episode
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: of her series Straight to the Point, produced in collaboration
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: with the Los Angeles Times Media Group, interviewed prominent attorney
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: John Manley, known for representing victims in high profile cases
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: like those against USA gymnastics doctor Larry Nasser. The discussion
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: focused on what Manly described as an epidemic of sexual
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: abuse not in churches, but in US public schools, highlighting
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: systemic failures in reporting, in investigation, and in prevention. Mostly
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Manly emphasized as schools often prioritize protecting their reputation over
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: their students, allowing predators to remain in positions of authority
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: or be quietly transferred to other districts, a practice known
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: as passing the trash. Harridge's report was prompted by the
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: release of the Epstein files, expanding into an examination of
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: child abuse within educational institutions, where victims are frequently disbelieved
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: or silenced due to institutional betrayal. The key finding from
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: the interview is that approximately seventeen percent of K through
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: twelve students nationwide, equating to roughly eight point six to
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: nine point four million children based on National Center for
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Education Statistics data, will experience some form of sexual misconduct
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: by a school employee during their education. This includes behaviors
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: ranging from inappropriate comments and boundary crossing touches to grooming
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: via social media, sharing explicit materials, and physical assaults like
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: sexual intercourse. Manly cited updated research from education professor Carrol Shakeshaft,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: whose twenty twenty four what an Unfortunate Name, whose twenty
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: twenty four book Organize Organizational Betrayal, How Schools Enable Sexual
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Misconduct and How to Stop It builds on prior estimates
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: noting that schools, is, cultures, and structures often enable such
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: abuse through inadequate policies like a lack of training and
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: a failure to act on red flags. Shakeshaft's estimates, including
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: the seventeen percent figure, draw from a synthesis of recent
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: studies such as those by Grant at All and Jigelic
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: at All eighteen twenty nineteen, which rely on anonymous student
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: surveys to capture self reported experiences of educated sexual misconduct,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: so take those statistics with a little bit of a
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: grain assault. These build on Shakeshaft's earlier two thousand and
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: four US Department of Education Commission review, which synthesized existing
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: literature and surveys from the two thousands. The methodology involves
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: case studies of adjudicated incidents, expert witness and analyzes from
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: over two hundred and fifty lawsuits, and ecological models examining
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: school environments, though data sis remains a challenge due to
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: underreporting and institutional barriers to external research. Another thing that
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: isn't a big obstacle to getting like a lot of
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: these issues addressed, which is why they just move. The
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: teachers are teachers unions who basically do a lot of
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: work to protect the jobs I mean, not just of teachers.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: It's obviously this is a statistic that it is also
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: discussing faculty and staff at schools. But if you think
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: about it, like the majority of people who work in
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: schools are women, like the overwhelming majority, not just as teachers,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: but even in the sort of like you know, faculty
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: and administration level. So just like an interesting that this
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: is coming out and they are learning this. It's almost
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: like there's like a side effect to the Epstein files,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: like people are like, oh, this is happening in our government.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I wonder where else this might be happening. And then
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: people are looking into it and this is what they found.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: At least so far.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: This is still like you know, ongoing and obviously it's
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: contained to the United States, but this is what we're like,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: but sort of like being revealed, you know, about what's
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: going on in our school. So anyway, as kind of
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: guys the.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Floor, it's seventeen seems like a really big number, especially
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: on you know, such a wide scale, that's like one
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: in every six children come back Catholic church. All is forgiven. Well,
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: there's a joke in here about forgiveness. As christ said,
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: I got to think of it to shut up. I'm
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: sure the figure is it might be mitigated by the
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: factor of quote inappropriate comments and boundary crossing touches, because
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: that's what does that mean. If you teach girls that
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: they're being oppressed by anything and everything, then of course
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: they're going to report any instance of brushing past someone
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: as rape or just boundary crossing touches and any series
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: of syllables as sexual harassment I inappropriate comments. On the
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: other hand, this could all be offset in the other
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: direction by what boys are not reporting. After all, they're
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: being taught that everything they do is oppression, So they
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: see grooming on social media as something that happens to
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: other people. Of ox, they see rape as something that
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: happens to other people, because in many a legal system
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: its officially is something that only happens to other people.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: So this is probably being skewed in both directions, and
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: what it could very well mean is that say thirty
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: five percent of girls are fantasizing about being groomed and raped,
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: while a completely unknown proportion of boys are being groomed
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: and raped, but only one percent of them actually report it,
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: and this averages out to seventeen percent. Maybe I'm exaggerating.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'm just assuming that if you teach boys and
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: girls opposite things, then they will report opposite things. Maybe
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: that's why the Catholic Church got away with it for
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: so long, because they were doing it to boys principally,
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: if not entirely. Maybe that's why schools have got away
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: with it for even longer and on a much larger scale,
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: because it's women doing it to boys. And maybe that's
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: why they'll keep getting away with it because everyone will
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: look at these statistics and go, seventeen percent, this is
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: an outrage. How dare these male teachers do this to
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: these poor, defenseless girls. All the male teachers should be fired,
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: just in case, Uh, we already did that. These statistics
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: have emerged from schools that have long since purged themselves
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: of male teachers. At this point, the average school has
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: more lesbian teachers than male teachers.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Do you know what that means?
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: Can you extrapolate what that means?
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Even if girls are being sexually abused, it's women who
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: are doing it. What how that this is impossible? We
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: must find a way to punish men for this. Unfortunately,
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: we can't find any men in these educational instituations. So
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: I suppose we'll just punish the boys, the boys who
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: refuse to become girls. I mean, we'll find some way
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: of punishing them. We don't quite know how, but I'm
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: sure we'll figure something out, like some kind of sexual
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: abieace like the ship we've been doing fucking debate. The
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: moral of the story in the first section was blamed
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: the government, and yes, the moral of the story this
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: time is blame the women. Well why not both?
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Hey?
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Why not both? In both cases seems like an appropriate
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: take in a world where everything, by default is being
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: blamed on the men and boys who are ruled over
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: by women and governments, the ones it's increasingly occupy. What
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: the hell did you expect me to say? Listen, and gentlemen,
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: why did you even come here?
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Hey?
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: I hope it was for the sake of consistency, because
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: that's what you're going to get, fucking consistency. Yes, governments
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: are the problem, and yes, women are the problem I
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: hear by yield to the floor, as I consistently do already.
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: Then you know, the public school sexual abuse issue actually
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: dwarfs the church sexual abuse issue in terms of numbers
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: of victims that we know about. That that should tell
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: you something, but something else you should know. This goes
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: clear back to the nineteenth century, and this is this
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: is when at the end of the nineteenth century they
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: decided they were going to start as a hygiene and
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: public health issue, they are going to start implementing sex
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: education in high schools, just high schools, teenagers, not children.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: And this was the NEA first first started its push
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: for this, the National Education Association, and that at that
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: time they did not have the level of control over
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: school curriculum that they do today, but they did manage
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: to get Chicago to implement it, the first major city.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: They continued this throughout the entire twentieth century, and it expanded.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: They went from just educating about how pregnancy occurs and
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: how diseases occur in our past between people who are
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: engaged in sex, and then they began expanding it to
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: junior high school kids and then elementary school kids. I
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: remember the first year that we had it when I
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: was in school. I was in the fourth grade, and
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: it would have been nineteen eighty two. That was the
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: year my mom almost died in a car accident. So
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: my whole life was before nineteen eighty two and after
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: nineteen eighty two. But in any case, that's when that's
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: when we started learning, you know, about all of the
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: different aspects of human sexuality, except you know, the psychological
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: aspects that can cause you to become suicidal when you
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: break up with somebody that you've been having sex with.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: And they didn't. They never really got into that. Right
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: about the nineteen nineties, they started to take a turn
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: into sexuality in sex education, and by the time we
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: got to talking about it as a team, they were
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: already grooming students to think that they were born in
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: the wrong body and think that they they have a
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: sexual identity and not just a personal identity, right, and
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: that was those Suddenly now you have the gender mafia
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: screwing with students' heads, and that evolution over time. I
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: don't think that was an accident, because if they wanted.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: I hear music in the background, like it sounds like
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: a video game. Is that the news music?
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Brian? What are you doing.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: Something has turned on something that's really weird. In any case,
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: I wonder I hope that everybody else can hear that,
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: because it's gonna make me sound nuts. But any case,
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: I think that over time, as as progressives and woke
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: ideologues got a hold of the National Education Association, they
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: made that a goal to screw with kids' minds using
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: sex education. So it is no surprise none that you
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: end up with more and more sexual abuse in the
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: school system by educators. And that's one thing. The second
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: thing is we are taught that women have some degree
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: of sexual entitlement, that its abuse when you tell a
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: woman tho. And it's not taught that explicitly, but there
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: is a common theme, I guess you could say in
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: popular media and popular culture, in social norms, in western
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: culture and so on, that if a woman is sexually
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: interested and you turn her down and make her feel rejected,
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: and that you're the bad guy. And when you combine
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: those things with this idea that women can do no
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: wrong and women's sexuality is giving and and nurturing, and
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: that you know, women are some sort of sexual teachers
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: and stuff like that, you get a combination that when
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: there's a female sociopath or other type of sexual predator
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: in charge of a classroom, it's very easy for her
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: to convince herself and the people around her that there's
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: nothing wrong with her, sampling from among her students, and
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: people will treat boys who come out and say this
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: happened to me and I was damaged by it as
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: if they are somehow abnormal and weird because they didn't
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: like it. But in the meantime, there is research that
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: backs them up when they say they're traumatized. And this
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: is something that we've talked about before, right. This is
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: from a review published in the Journal of the American
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: Medical Association in nineteen ninety eight, So this is something
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: that we've known about for a long time by William C.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: Holmes and Group Homes and Slap, and it's William C.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: Holmes and Gail B. Slap. The research. The review is
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: titled sexual Abuse of Boys Definition, Prevalence Correlates Sequally and management,
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: and it is a review that compared and reported on
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: the findings of one hundred and sixty six different studies.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: So this wasn't some little we asked sixteen boys what
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: their experiences were like or nothing like that. This was
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: a big review, This was a major piece of research,
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: and what they found was that sexually exploited boys, including
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: those who did not consider themselves to be victims, not
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: just those that were upset about it, but those who
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: felt like it was maybe a beneficial experience for them,
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: or those who did not remember their experience. And before
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: I go on with this, I will point out Widham
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: and Morris in nineteen ninety seven had found that only
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: sixteen percent of adult men with document documented cases of
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: sexual abuse considered their sexual abuse compared with sixty four
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: percent of women with documented cases of sexual abuse. So
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: eighty four percent of men did not recognize their early
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: childhood experiences of sexual abuse for what they were. Eighty
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: four percent of men with documented cases didn't recognize them
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: for what they were. So this research, the fact that
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: this research shows that even those men experienced this very
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: important victims experienced greater difficulty controlling sexual feelings and more
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: hyper sexual. They were more likely to engage in high
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: risk sexual behaviors such as unprotected sex, prostitution, and promiscuity.
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: They had an increased rate of STIs and unwanted pregnancy.
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: Unplanned pregnancy several of the studies had showed that they
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: had double the rate of HIV infection. They found an
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: increased rate of PTSD, anxiety disorders, borderline personality disorder, paranoia, dissociation.
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: Multiple personality disorder is a dissociative disorder, but there are
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: other types of dissociative disorders, sleep disorders, anger, aggressive behavior,
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: poor school performance, meaning if you have poor academic performance,
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: you then later have more difficulty economically. So being molested
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: as a child can make a boy's income lower for
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: the rest of his life. They had let's see, I
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: got lost in my list of things here. I have
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: notes for this one. Gender role confusion insecurity about intimate
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: partner relationships, So they're less likely to trust in their
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: ability to make a partnership. And that's with both men
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: and women. So it's not just a matter of a
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: woman has hurt me, so I can't trust women ever. Again,
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: there are boys who were gay who were molested by
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: women who then lost their ability to have the same
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: level of trust in their future partnerships with men. Their
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: gender role confusion was increased as well. It showed varying
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: degrees of increase in their risk for drug and alcohol abuse,
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: which is slow suicide in many ways, from twice as
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: likely to up to forty four times the risk, including
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: an earlier start down that path. They experienced twice the
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: rate of low self esteem, behavioral problems, antisocial personality disorder,
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: twice as likely to run away from home or have
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: legal problems, three times more likely to have bulimia, which
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: is when you throw up to stay skinny. They were
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: up to five times as likely to report other sexual
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: problems like sexual dysfunction like a rectile dysfunction or premature
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: exaculation things like that, up to four times as likely
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: to experience major depression, and could be up to fourteen
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: times more likely to attempt suicide than non abused males.
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: And if people don't have compassion for all of those things,
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: if you say, well, you know, it's just because they're boys,
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: they're just maybe it doesn't have anything to do with
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: their sexualbuts. I also want to point out, and and
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: this is something that you know, it's been referred to
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: as the vampire myth. It doesn't mean that a victim
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: of sexual abuse will automatically have this result, but it's
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: very clear that sexually abusing a child pushes them toward
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: this result. So there are many, many victims who go
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: on to you know, not not become perpetrators. And there
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: are victims that go on to become something called a
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: poly victim because their boundaries are broken and they have
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: no defense, They can't protect themselves, and they end up
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: getting victimized over and over again before they get some
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: sort of therapy that helps them to not leave themselves defenseless.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: And I will I'll say also that both Harvard University
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: and the US Navy found that a tendency towards sexual
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: predation is not a common male behavior. In fact, it's
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: very rare, and the majority of male perpetrated sex abuse
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: is attributable to something like less than ten percent of
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: the population. Harvard found six percent, and I believe the
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: Navy found like thirteen percent, But that is among a
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: specific select group that may be more prone to handling
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: conflict with violence. Multiple sources, however, indicate that a history
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: of sexual exploitation, specifically by females during youth, is a
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: significant risk factor for later perpetration of sex crimes by men.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: So a woman molesting a boy is a significant risk
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: factor for him growing up to be in that between
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: six and thirteen percent that is sexually aggressive. And if
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: you weren't, if a listener doesn't care for any other
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: reason about boys being abused in this manner, if you
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: care at all about future victims of adult males who
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: molest boys or girls, then you you want to care
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: about this issue because clearly something is happening that is
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: changing them personally. I care about the first set of
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: things that I read more because you prevent all those things,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: you also prevent this. So it is a much more
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: serious issue than people realize. And the fact that we
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: treat female sexuality as if it can do no harm
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: is very misguided, in very toxic, and it's very important
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: as parents. If you can homeschool your kids, you should.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: If you can't homeschool your kids, be careful where you
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: send them and be involved at every step. Know what's
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: going on in their education. Don't send them to overnights
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: at a teacher's house. And my parents were both teachers,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: they did not host overnights with their students. Now, my
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: brother and I had friends, and we had overnights with
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: our friends, but that wasn't something where mom and dad
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: were bringing kids home from the classroom. This is something
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: that you should be leary of, and it's very important
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: to pay attention if your kid's teacher is bringing kids home,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: you know, and it's unfortunate because there are great mentors
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: out there that want to do everything they can to
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: ensure that the children under their care have the best
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: possible future that they can have the best chance that
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: they possibly can can receive and achieve at maximizing their potential,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: maximizing their income, maximizing their enjoyment of life, and so on.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: And then there are teachers that will molest your kids.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: And you're as a parent if you can't keep your
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: kids out of the school system and teach them at
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: home and decide who they're going to be associated with
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: and so on, your next best bet is to keep
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: very careful track of who your kid is associating with
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: at school and what they're doing, and how much of
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: an interest the teacher is taking in the child. And
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: if your kid ever comes home from school and tells
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: you that they can't tell you about something that happened
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: in school, that is immediately a red flag. That is
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: something that you absolutely have to dig into. Nothing should
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: be secret at school, and the school is not allowed
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: to keep secrets from you. Legally, they're not allowed to
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: keep secrets from you. So there you go. The only
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: people that can protect your children are you, mom and dad.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: That's it. Everybody else is at least a risk, if
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: not the bad guys. It's you against the world and
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: live like that. Live that way, all.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Right, Thank you for that. I got a super channel
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: and they're going to move on to next story. So
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: I got one from Meredith g. She gives us five
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: dollars and says, HBr News five p. Forty two, honey
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: for the badger. Finally someone is talking about abuse in
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: public education in the mainstream media. Let's see where this goes. Yeah,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: that's what I say. It's a good thing, right, we
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: are like uncovering a truth.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: What they're gonna blame men. They're going to try to
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: turn this into we have to get more men out
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: of schools.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah there is, I mean if they're yeah, maybe, well
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: we'll see. I don't know that there's much because, like
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: I said, I think that the overwhelming majority of school
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: staff is female. So they're gonna have to, like it's
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: gonna take a lot of reality bending to do that.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: The real obstacle isn't even that it's the unions.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: Apparently it's gonna take vigilance from the public to keep
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: them from sweeping this under the rug that women are
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: highly involved in this.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: Yep, all right, Well anyway, we've got to move on.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: Next Tory.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Let us know you guys think about this one in
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: the comments. Okay, So this one is care of Mike J.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: Open Ai, the tech company responsible for chant GPT, said
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: warning signs were discovered months before a transgender individual killed
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: eight people in Canada. You guys remember the Canadian trans shooting.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: It feels like a lifetime ago, right. In June of
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: last year, open AI's abuse detector noticed concerning behavior with
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: the account of Jesse Van root Sealer. Roots Sealer, Yeah,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: that's the name, the individual who would go on to
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: kill his mother, his stepbrother, multiple school children, and himself.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: Thought was given about referring the account to the Royal
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: Canadian Mounted Police, but ultimately it was decided that there
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: was not enough credical information to act on and the
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: user's account was simply banned. This did not stop roots Seller, though,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: and he simply made another account after the banning of
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: the first one. After the mass shooting, the company would
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: share the user's second account with the RCNP and would
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: release the following statement quote Our thoughts are with everyone
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: affected by the Tumblr Ridge tragedy. We proactively reached out
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  Speaker 2: to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police with information on the
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: individual and their use of chat GPT, and will continue
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: to support their investigation end quote. The company also vowed
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: to change their safety policies going forward.
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  Speaker 3: So this is just an extension of the dilemma of
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: having a surveillance state that only serves to surveil enemies
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: of the state. I don't quite know what the situation
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: is in Canada, but for a glimpse of your future
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: as gentlemen, you only have to look to London, London, England,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: not London Ontario. You could walk from one end of
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: London to the other and you'll be on at least
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: one camera at every step of your journey. Does this
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: prevent crime? Does this even serve to solve crime? Apparently not.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: Crime has been soaring to all new heights since this
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: big brother surveillance state has been implemented, especially violent crime.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: But that's because the violent crime is usually committed by
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: the client groups, the people who cannot be arrested because
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: to arrest them would be racist or sexist, or islamophobic
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: or indeed transphobic. The people tasked with combing through the
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: footage are the same people who have been tasked with
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: what we might call reverse DEI. We don't want diversity
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: in our prisons. We want straight white sal men in
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: our presence, and we will only use the Big Brother
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: surveillance state to achieve that end. And it's the same
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: online and not just with chat, GPT, not just with
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: AI in general. Before AI, people would just search for
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: things on Google. Search engines have always been a primitive
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: form of AI, after all, you ask them questions and
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: they answer it with a series of links. If your
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: question is how do I build a bomb? Your account
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: gets flagged. Even if you don't have an account, your
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: IP address gets flagged. In the old days, you wouldn't
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: immediately get reported to the police, but your search data
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: would indeed get recorded in the event that the police
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: wanted it. But since then, the Big Brother surveillance state
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: has extended to such search engines and their AIS in
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: the same way if it extended to the endless network
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: of CCTV. The authoritarianism is fueled by the archaphobia. Ask
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: your computer, how do I kill my family? And it'll
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: go here's how you kill your family, and it gives
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: you directions to the nearest abortion clinic. But ask it,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: how do I kill foreigners? And three seconds later, after
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: you hit the enter key, you hear the fucking sirens.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: Woo.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: You're underrest, and that's the end of your story. But doc,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: you have no evidence for this, You're just asserting it.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: Go to chat GPT, it's right there. Go to any
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: popular AI chat bar and ask it any series of
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: questions you like pertaining to race and gender. Ask it,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: are humans apes? It will say yes, humors are apes?
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: Ask it, are black people apes? It will say no,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: black people are not apes. That is a racist question.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: And wambam, thank you man, you are on the list.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: See the online surveillance state has been programmed with the
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: same parameters as the offline surveillance state that we call
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: the police, because they are both operated by and in
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: the accordance of you guessed it, the governments who rule
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: over us and the women who rule over the government. Consistency,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: the gentleman, I am able to present these ethical dilemmas
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: consistently because there is a pervasive ideology that predetermines the outcomes.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: That's why we have wars that are detrimental to everyone.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: That's why we have schools that are detrimental to everyone.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: That's why we have machine gods that are detrimental to everyone,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: because the purpose of the system is to be detrimental
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: to everyone. For generations, we've been worrying about sky Neet,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: about what could happen if an artificial intelligence decides that
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: humans need to be wiped out. Well, maybe when we
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: turn to machines to solve our problems, we've already decided
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: that humans are not fit to solve our problems. So
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: maybe Skynet was inevitable from the very beginning, not the
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: very beginning, not just of the industrial revolution, but of
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: the first machine, whatever that may be. The wheel perhaps
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: when combined, when combined with the axle, so it's to
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: create a machine. And yes, the wheel made us lazier.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: That's not to say we shouldn't have invented the wheel,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: but one might say it has made us less appreciative
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: of our legs, and the computer has made us less
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: appreciative of our minds. So yeah, the solution is simple.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: Go for a walk every now and again, turn off
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: the computer, turn off the car, and think for yourself
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: every now and again. At the same time, you know,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: you think walking and thinking. The walking helps the thinking
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: and the and the thinking helps the walking. And it'll
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: make you much less likely to kill your family. Chat
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: GTPT or no chat, GPT, school or no school, government
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: or no government. Get out there and touch grass. It
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: all becomes much less of a problem if you can
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: be content with the company of no one but yourself
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: and nature. It sounds cliche, but it's true. I would
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: do it right now, but it's midnight and I'll probably
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: get mugged by some kind of truny shit skin if
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: I went out and right now. So whatever, let's go
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: on with the show. Oh God, all.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: Right, Hannah. Do you want to say anything about this story?
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but first I should probably unmute some things that
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: I would point out the first thing. And I know
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: there are gonna be a lot of people that are
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: going to push back on me for this, But laziness
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: is a choice. It's not something that machines make you do.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: It's not something that convenience makes you do, and it
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: is the ultimate cause of our inability to catch mass
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: shooters in the likelihood stages before they actually perpetrate their crimes.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: It's always somebody else's problem. If somebody is a little
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: bit off, it's always somebody else's problem. If somebody is
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: way off, and it's always somebody else's problem. Is somebody,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: something somebody is saying is getting scary, right, And you know,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: before they get to the point where it's scary enough
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: to go to law enforcement, there they are at a
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: point where it's scary enough for you to say, hey, well,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: wait a minute, what you're saying is wrong, and here's why,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: and try to get them to listen to you. And
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: before they get to that point, they're at least at
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: a point where you know, you should be able to
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: say to them, you know, hey, you're not very good
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: at considering other people's experiences or to the people around
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: them that are abusing them. When when the individual is
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: responding to abuse, Hey, you know you're driving this person
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: over off the deep end. This is this behavior is unacceptable,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: and we used to be able to do that. People
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: wonder why there was this big explosion of mass violence
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: among teenagers during the latter half of the twentieth century. Well,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: there wasn't There wasn't a big explosion. There was a
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: slow creep, and it was contributed to by a variety
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: of things, including the offloading of childcare from parents to
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: the public school system and the daycare systems in the
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: United States. If you're not the one who was raising
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: your children, if you're not the primary person who is
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 4: raising your children, somebody else is doing it. You can
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: be guaranteed that somebody else is influencing them. Children don't
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: raise themselves, and so if you allow that to happen,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: and then your child becomes a criminal, or your child
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: becomes suicidal, becomes a drug addict, becomes an unwed parent
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: instead of becoming a fact factory worker or a soldier
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: or an educator or a nurse or any other well
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 4: adjusted working individual who can pay for the things they
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: want in life and make themselves happy without doing harmed
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: other people. Then you are still at fault. If somebody
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: else raised your child because you neglected that, because you
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: didn't exhibit vigilance, you didn't keep track of what your
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: child was doing, that's your fault as a parent. And
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: there are a lot of people that don't want to
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: face that. If you're the older sibling and your younger
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: siblings starts making stupid choices, and you don't go to
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: mom and dad and say, hey, you know, junior here
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: is not realizing some of the stuff I learned when
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: I was growing up, and I don't know what to
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: do about it. As the the older sibling influence, what
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: do I do? You know? And and get their help,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: and get them to help. You just let your younger
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: sibling down. If you're the younger sibling, and you'll find
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: out your older sibling is doing things that that they're
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: not supposed to be doing, that's going to, uh, you know,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: cause their trajectory to go off track. You speak up,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: you know, And and it's families don't do that anymore.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: Uh and and and it's to the degree now, the
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: degree now like if I had gotten to do things
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: the way that you know, my family always raised me
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: to do when I when I grew up, if I
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: hadn't made one one choice that put the cart before
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: the horse and caused a whole series of events that
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: screwed that up. We would have been raising our children
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 4: close to my husband's family in the community where he
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: grew up. And if my brother in law come and said,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: you know, your son or your daughter's doing this, and
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: it's a little bit disconcerting that they may have problems
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: later because of it. I wouldn't have said butt out
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: because the way my family was raised. You know, when
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: something like that happens, you talk about it, you learn
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: about it, you figure out whether it's a problem, and
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: then if it is, you do everything you can to
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: remedy it. And today everybody's all individualistic. They're offloading their
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: responsibilities to machines and other people, and they're not caring
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: about their families and how their kids are raised. And yeah,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: the people at chat GPT their policy sucked, right, that
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: was that was bad. I'm not excusing that, but it
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: shouldn't have been solely their responsibility. Where was this individual's family.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: Where was the safety network, the human network that should
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: have stopped this from happening before it became chat GPT's responsibility.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: You know, I don't like the fact that people are
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: turning to machines for everything now, but that's a symptom.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: Where did this individual learn to do that? Do we do?
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: We need to go back to the anti drug commercials
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: from I think it was the eighties, You know, I
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: learned it from you. I learned it, I picked it
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: up from you, I saw you doing it. That's essentially
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: where we are now. Our kids and our grandkids are
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: learning to offset responsibility for determining how they behave to machines.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 4: The next generations in real trouble. If we don't turn
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: that around, it won't matter. It won't matter if we
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: have an eye robot future. It won't matter if we
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: have a Terminator future, because it's already happened mentally. Mentally,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: we have the EE robot and the Terminator future today. Today,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: people are using machines to do their homework, and machines
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: to decide who they're going to date, and machines to
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: decide what job they're going to get, the machines to
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: decide what actions they're going to take in their everyday life.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: They're turning to machines for spiritual advice. The most godless
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: thing on the planet, a man made invention that has
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: no soul for spiritual advice. And we wonder why that
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: there's no fail safe to stop kids from shooting each other.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's because we are offsetting our responsibilities for our
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 4: connections to other human beings and maintaining those connections, maintaining
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: those relationships when we're supposed to be doing that ourselves.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: And if I can recognize that I'm not all that
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: good at maintaining lots and lots of close relationships, it's
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: one of the reasons that we figured out I was autistic.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: If I can do that, I we have to tell
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: you that that means that there's a problem and it
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: really needs to be addressed. And until that happens, we
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 4: will continue to see stories like this. There is no
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 4: amount of surveillance that will change things. Only people taking
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 4: responsibility for their own interactions and their own circles of
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: friends and family. That's it. That's all we can do.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you for that.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: Let me just see if there's any super chats or anything,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: and we will move on to the next story. Okay, yeah,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: let's move on to the last story. Let me know
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: what you guys think about this one in the comments
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: in the meantime.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, So, Secretary of.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: What buck stuck in my head now?
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: Secretary of or Pete Hegseth announced on February twenty seventh
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: that the Pentagon will conditionally continue its long standing support
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: for scouting America formerly known as the Boy Scouts of America,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: after the organization agreed to eliminate so, they did so
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: under the condition that the organization agrees to eliminate all diversity,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: equity and inclusion initiatives. This deal came after Heggseth had
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: threatened to end military backing, including access to Department of
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: War facilities, equipment, and personnel support, due to what he
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: described as the group's embrace of woke policies, including DEI programs,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: a name change from the Boy Scouts, so basically becoming
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: the Girl Scouts, acceptance of girls, and perceived dilution of
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: the values like duty to God. As part of the agreement,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: Scouting America committed to complying with President Trump's executive order
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: after barring DEI efforts in public and private sectors, removing
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: DEI related language from programs in publications, and discontinuing the
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: Citizenship in Society merit badge that prompted diversity, equity, inclusion
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: and some other social justice type leadership. The arrangement is
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: not without caveats. Hegseth emphasized no more DEI zero and
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: framed it as a step to restore the organization's original
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: focus on developing boys while criticizing elements like transgender inclusion
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: and other radical woke ideology. The Pentagon will review compliance
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: in six months and could withdraw support if violations occur.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: Scouting America has described the changes as aligning with federal
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: requirements to maintain its partnership with the military, though reports
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: note some discrepancies, such as heg Seth's claims about restricting
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: membership based on biological sex at birth, which the organization
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: has not fully confirmed as altering existing transgender youth policies.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: The deal preserves Gills's Girls' participation for now and avoids
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: a full reversion to the Boy Scout's name, although that
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: is what heg Seth wants and for what the Department
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: of War wants in the long term, balancing, hegg says,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: demands with the group's operational continuity.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: So they're trying to make it the Boy Scouts again.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: This is all well and good. My only caveat as
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: the old confusion principle of calling things what they are.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know if Hegseth himself is calling it woke
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: or if that's just a secondhand interpretation. But even if
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: he's still calling it dei. That's still just another euphemism.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: Woke is a euphemism for kaphobia, and dei is a
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: euphemism for communism, which is a euphemism for kaphobia, or,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: in the case of the Boy Scouts, missionry, which is
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: another term that we really ought to reintroduce into our
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: collective vocabulary. I'm glad someone is pushing back against missonry.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: It is long overdue, to say the least. But if
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: you're not calling things what they are, then you're pushing
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: back in the dark. Before you know it, you'll do
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: what blind people do when they walk in the desert.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: They walk in circles, in diminishing concentric circles. It's the
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: two dimensional equivalent of a downward spiral. The definition of
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: woke will change, the definition of DEI will change, and
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: as that wind changes, you will change with it. To
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: walk in a straight line, gentlemen, you must find the sun.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: The sun too will change, It will drift from east
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: to west. But at least this is consistent. Focus on
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: that which changes. Consistently, Focus on the standard candle. Focus
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: not on contemporary interpretations of the landscape around you. Humans lie,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: Humans can be deceived. The sun cannot follow the sun.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: Sun bro that to we back, all right, I'm going
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: to get taken aback someone else talk all right.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: There are probably people going, why is he kids so
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: concerned about this? What's the big deal? Especially if you're
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 4: not from the US and you don't know the relationship
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 4: between the Scouts and the military. So before I get
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 4: into the Boy Scout Girl Scout thing, I'll explain a
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: little bit about that. Boy Scouts. If they reach the
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 4: rank of Eagle Scout, which I believe is the highest
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: rank available for kids in Boy Scouts, they get some
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 4: benefits when they when they join the military. If they
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 4: are awarded or designated as an Eagle Scout, they get
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: automatic rank advancement. They are at the start at enlistment.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 4: They're eligible for an advanced enlistment rank in most US
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: military branches. In the Army, Navy, Marines, and Guard Coast
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 4: or Coastguard. Sorry I wanted was going to say National Guard,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 4: its Coast Guard. UH. Eagle Scouts typically enter as E two,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 4: skipping the the E one entry rank, so they're slightly
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 4: higher up. In the Air Force, they they can start
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 4: out as E three and they get higher starting pay
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: and immediate leadership responsibilities that they would they would then
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 4: exert over E two and E one, and then you
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  Speaker 4: have as they progress in their career. Because Eagle Scout
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 4: rank has it, you can't just make that rank by
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 4: being in the Scouts for a certain number of years.
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  Speaker 4: You have to earn it through the performance of different
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 4: tasks and demonstrating different skills and so on. And you
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 4: have to exhibit leadership skills. You have to exhibit discipline
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 4: and perseverance, you have to exhibit project man management skills.
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  Speaker 4: So it's it's UH stuff that the military actually wants
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  Speaker 4: in its leadership. And as a result, besides the initial
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 4: rank bump when you start UH, it also gives you
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: your your more you get a more favorable treatment. If
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 4: you are trying to enroll an officer school, you're more
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  Speaker 4: likely to be accepted. They're given preference and admissions to
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: military academies in general, and UH they're they're more competitive
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: for r o t C scholarships. So if you are
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: going to university and and you're going to to join
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: r o t C too, you know, to to fund
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 4: part of your your schooling, you're more likely to get
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 4: that than somebody who doesn't have any experience in in
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 4: in Scouts or hasn't reached that rank. So there's there's
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 4: a few things. It's it's not the only thing. Like
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 4: if people in the military know that you are an
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: Eagle Scout before you were in the military, there's a
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 4: there's a level of expectation and trust that you receive
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 4: because you know things that other people. You knew things
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  Speaker 4: coming in other people had to learn in boot camp,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 4: and so it is. It is very important. And anybody
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 4: that's talking to a recruiter about entering the military after
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: being the Boy Scouts, if they've been an Eagle Scout,
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 4: they want that recruiter to know so that they can
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 4: confirm those benefits and make sure they actually get those
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: benefits when they go into the military. But if the
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  Speaker 4: United States ends its cooperation with the Boy Scouts, those
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: benefits go down the tube, right, that'll end. And to
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  Speaker 4: get to the gender thing, right, Girl Scouts of America
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  Speaker 4: is not an organization that is affiliated with Boy Scouts
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 4: of America. It is not the same. There's no parent
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 4: organization over the two of them. One they weren't even
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 4: started by the same people. One was started by one
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: individual for one purpose and the other was started by
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: a different individual for a different purpose, and they don't
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: have a whole lot in common. They follow a similar
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: pattern of you have to earn merit badges and increase
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: in rank and so on, but the Girl Scouts don't
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 4: teach nearly the same set of like survival and citizenship
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 4: and so on as the Boy Scouts do. They do
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: not have a rank that gives the benefits that Eagle
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: Scout gives in entering the military, and they are not
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 4: affiliated with the military. You could actually argue that it's
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 4: that that that it's actually a giant, multi level marketing
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: scheme to sell cookies using child labor and not be
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 4: too far off. But it is something that I like.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 4: I grew up with friends that were in the Scouts.
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  Speaker 4: They had a lot of fun and and so it's
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 4: it's not all bad, but it's not the same and
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 4: the benefits are not the same. And so I do
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 4: understand why there were families with girls that wanted their
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: girls to be in the Boy Scouts instead, because there
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: are a lot of benefits to being in the Boy
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 4: Scouts that don't exist being in the Girl Scouts. But
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 4: the thing is men and boys already have enough of
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 4: their spaces being taken away from them, and it is
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: it is of utmost importance that if the Boy Scouts
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 4: decide they are going to create a system for girls
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 4: that does for future female soldiers what the Boy Scouts
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 4: does for future male soldiers. In addition to the family
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 4: friendly stuff and the shaping of young people's minds and everything,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 4: they need to keep it one separate. It needs to
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 4: not have any involvement at all with what the boys
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 4: are doing. The boys should be able to do their
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 4: their studies, their camping, their earning of merits, their lessons
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 4: on what those merits are, and everything should all be
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 4: encapsulated in a male mentor male student environment without the
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: involvement of girls. And it's perfectly acceptable for there to be,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 4: you know, den mothers that that assists that support what
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 4: the men are doing, but the leadership should be men
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: and the beneficiary should should be boys. And if they're
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 4: going to do a girls section of that, the leaders
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 4: of that should be women and there shouldn't be boys involved.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 4: That should be female mentors, female leadership, and it should
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 4: not interfere with anything the boys are doing and the
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 4: things that the Boys are doing. Should not interfere with that.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 4: And if the original Girl Scouts organization can't become that,
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 4: you can't can't work with the Boy Scouts to reform
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 4: their organization and make it worthwhile for girls in a
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 4: modern situation, then they are outdated and they need to go.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 4: And that would would create the influx that the Scouts
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 4: needed to have enough to have a female wing that
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 4: has nothing to do and no authority, nothing to do
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 4: with and no authority over the male wing. But that's
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 4: the only other, that's the only two one of two
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 4: things that should happen. Either the Girl Scouts should reform
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 4: and become that or they should fold and let the
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 4: girls use the leadership of the Boy Scouts to mold
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 4: them into that. But it would have to stay separate.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 4: There should never be a connection between the two.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there are different they are different animals because the
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: Boy Scouts is like largely there is some collaboration with
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: the government obviously like you mentioned, but it's largely like
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: you know, supported by sort of independence on a state,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: let's say arm. But the Girl Scouts is the Girl
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: Scouts is socialized. It's basically made by the state, and
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: and it is and the Girl Scouts ever went away,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: it still exists. So basically there was Girl Scouts and
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: there are Boy Scouts, and then now there's Girl Scouts
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: and there's Girl Scouts.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm saying that one only one of those two
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 4: should exist. And the Girl Scouts aren't willing to become
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 4: what obviously girls want that because they wouldn't be trying
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 4: to join the Boy Scouts if they didn't. If they
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 4: aren't willing to become what girls want, then they need
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 4: to step aside in their organization and let let the
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 4: Boy Scouts create a separate organization from the boys for girls.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 4: That's that's the only only way that that should happen,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 4: because the the idea that boys should just let the
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 4: girls join in with them and take away the male
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 4: solidarity the fraternity of their organization is wholly wrong. They
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 4: should not do that, and the men of the organization
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 4: shouldn't let that happen.
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  Speaker 2: And the girl girl Scouts only make up twenty percent
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: of the membership in the Scouts, so it's still majority
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: boys anyways, so they like this whole thing was I mean,
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: twenty percent is not anything that's not to you know,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: to scoff at but like, well anyway, I'm not gonna
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: we've gone way over. I'm just saying that it's already
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: majority boys. Just make it for boys and let the
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: Girl Scouts of America do the things that the girls
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: that joined the Scouts, you know, to give them that
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: just like make it more for those girls.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: But they're not doing that. They have them learning feminism.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: No, and so to stop the Boy Scouts from doing Yeah,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 4: they sued to stop the consumer from getting what the
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 4: consumer wanted.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 4: That should tell you a lot about that organization.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: The Girl Scouts can't really go bankrupt. They run on
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: taxpayer money. They may complain about needing more money, but
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: they're not going bankrupt.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: They get their socialized. It's a socialized organization the Boy Scouts.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 4: That relies on bankruptcy. I'm not talking about bank No.
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  Speaker 1: No, I know I'm responding to somebody in the chat, but.
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  Speaker 4: Go ahead, okay. I was gonna say this is they
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 4: they don't need to exist if they don't the government is.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 4: If the government is funding them and the Boy Scouts
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 4: are going to create a girls wing that is separate
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 4: and independent of the boys wing, then maybe the government
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 4: should stop funding the girl Scouts.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, no, I don't disagree, but anyway, yeah, so I will.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna see, they're gonna check back up in six
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: in six months, we'll see, you know, if they if
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: they comply, and I mean I I'm optimistic, so there
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: you go. But yes, they're gonna cry about financial was
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: because again, they just want more money. It's not like
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have figured this out yet,
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: but feminism is a grift. That's it's all about making
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: money and maintaining power. So even if they're doing well,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't even measure what it means to
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: do well when you're literally just getting a blank check
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: from the state. So they're just saying they want more,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: that's it. And they're like the people who work there
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: are just like basically just taking taxpayer dollars and they're
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: not earning it. Because when they opened, when they made
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: the Boy Scouts into the Scouts, a bunch of girls
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: went there. So the Girl Scouts were even less relevant
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: as a result of what they did to the Boy Scouts.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: But look that aside, will follow up in six months
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: and see where things go from there. So you know,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: we got to I mean they're making efforts, and like
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: I said, I think it's I don't think it's a
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: bad thing that they're doing that. I think it's a
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: good thing and they should do that. So anyway, with
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: that said, let us know you guys think about this
• 1:42:54
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  Speaker 4: One more thing that needs to be said, right, it
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 4: is not super important for there to be a scouting
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 4: organization that serves girls the way the boy Scouts are
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 4: served by the boys, or the way the boys are
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 4: served by the boy Scouts. It's not super important for
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 4: girls to have any scouting organization. Girls are not in crisis.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 4: Boys are, and they do need this.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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