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- 0:00Let's talk about perimenopause. I know what you
- 0:02may be thinking on the surface, this seems like
- 0:04a strange topic for Women in Leadership podcast.
- 0:07But after my conversation with Dr. Case Troutman,
- 0:10I actually think the connection is pretty obvious.
- 0:13If you're over 40, you probably cannot go very
- 0:16long without hearing someone talk about it. It
- 0:18comes up with friends, it shows up in your social
- 0:20media feed. And eventually you start hearing
- 0:23enough of the symptoms that you think, okay,
- 0:25wait a second, this sounds very familiar. That
- 0:28was definitely my experience. For a long time,
- 0:31I thought I was just stressed. And to be fair,
- 0:33I had plenty of reason to be. Work had been intense.
- 0:37Life had been insane. There was a lot going on.
- 0:39So when I started waking up at 3 AM and couldn't
- 0:42go back to sleep consistently, I just blamed
- 0:45stress. When I felt like I was constantly carrying
- 0:49this high anxiety, like my body was always slightly
- 0:53on edge, I blamed that on stress too. And because
- 0:56I wasn't having hot flashes, perimenopause was
- 0:58really not even on my radar. That was basically
- 1:01my understanding of menopause for most of my
- 1:03life. Hot flashes, moodiness, eventually your
- 1:05period stops. That's pretty much the curriculum
- 1:08that I knew. What Dr. Troutman helped explain
- 1:10is that for a lot of women, it does not look
- 1:12like that at all. It can look like fatigue, anxiety,
- 1:16disrupted sleep, difficulty concentrating, brain
- 1:18fog, feeling overwhelmed, or just that vague
- 1:22feeling of not quite feeling like yourself. And
- 1:25that matters because none of those things stay
- 1:27neatly contained in your personal life. If you're
- 1:30not sleeping, that follows you to work. If you
- 1:32can't focus the way you normally do, that follows
- 1:35you into a meeting. If your anxiety is suddenly
- 1:38much higher than usual, that can absolutely affect
- 1:41how you communicate, make decisions, or show
- 1:44up in a high -stakes situation. So one of the
- 1:47biggest takeaways for me was to stop assuming
- 1:50everything is just stress. That does not mean
- 1:53your stress is not real. Most women in this stage
- 1:55of life have plenty of it. You may be leading
- 1:58a team, raising kids, helping aging parents,
- 2:01managing a household, running a business, and
- 2:03doing some combination yes of all that. You're
- 2:05under a lot of pressure. But what Dr. Chapman
- 2:08kept coming back to was the idea of asking, what
- 2:10if it's not just stress? That's such a simple
- 2:14question because I think it's also so important.
- 2:17It gives you another explanation besides, am
- 2:20I just not handling things as well as I used
- 2:23to? And that is where women can get really hard
- 2:25on themselves. We start thinking maybe we need
- 2:28a better routine to get more organized. Maybe
- 2:31we need to exercise more and sleep better, manage
- 2:34our time better, or somehow become more disciplined
- 2:37than we already are. Meanwhile, there may be
- 2:40a biological reason why everything feels harder.
- 2:44Dr. Trotman called this the silent tax, and I
- 2:46thought that was such a good way to describe
- 2:48it. We keep compensating for what is happening
- 2:50without really understanding it. We make more
- 2:54list. We over -prepare. We put reminders everywhere.
- 2:56We work longer because it takes more effort to
- 2:59focus. And then when something slips, we take
- 3:02it personally. This is where it becomes a career
- 3:05issue. Brain fog is one thing when you're standing
- 3:08in your kitchen trying to remember why you walked
- 3:10into the room. It feels very different when you're
- 3:13presenting to a client, leading a meeting, or
- 3:15sitting in a room where your credibility matters.
- 3:18You know the information, you've said the word
- 3:20a hundred times, and then suddenly it's just
- 3:22gone. The problem is that in that moment you
- 3:26were not only trying to remember the word, you're
- 3:28also thinking about what everyone else in the
- 3:30room now thinks about you. Do they think I'm
- 3:34unprepared, that I can't handle this? Do they
- 3:36think I'm losing my edge? And then, because we're
- 3:39human, we start asking ourselves the same questions.
- 3:43That's the part I really want women to hear.
- 3:46Struggling with sleep, anxiety, focus, or brain
- 3:48fog does not automatically mean your capability
- 3:51has changed. And the timing of all this is especially
- 3:55frustrating because perimenopause often shows
- 3:57up during some of our biggest career years. We
- 4:01have finally built the experience, the confidence,
- 4:04the credibility. We're leading bigger teams,
- 4:06taking on bigger roles, running companies. And
- 4:09at the exact same time, our bodies may be making
- 4:12some of those things feel much harder than they
- 4:15used to. This does not mean we're past our peak.
- 4:18It means we may need to understand what is actually
- 4:21happening before we start making big assumptions
- 4:23about ourselves. The other big takeaway from
- 4:25Dr. Troutman was that normal does not mean you
- 4:28have to suffer. She said there is no metal for
- 4:31suffering and that line stuck with me because
- 4:33women are very good at powering through and calling
- 4:36it strength. We take care of everybody else first.
- 4:39We handle the appointments, the schedules, the
- 4:42work, the family stuff, all of it. And meanwhile,
- 4:45we may not have been sleeping for six months
- 4:48and thinking, I'll deal with it eventually. I
- 4:51did that too. I also brought up some of these
- 4:53symptoms with another doctor before I met Dr.
- 4:56Troutman and basically got, yeah, that's normal
- 4:58for your age. And I walked away thinking, OK,
- 5:02so I guess that means I just deal with it. But
- 5:05normal and untreatable are not the same thing.
- 5:09That's an important distinction. Dr. Troutman
- 5:11was also very clear that every symptom is not
- 5:14automatically perimenopause. A good provider
- 5:17should look at the full picture and rule out
- 5:19other things that can cause fatigue, anxiety,
- 5:21brain fog, or sleep issues. But if you're in
- 5:24this stage of life and something feels noticeably
- 5:27different, it's worth having a conversation with
- 5:29someone who actually understands menopause care
- 5:31and gives a shit. There are options. For some
- 5:35women, hormone therapy can be incredibly helpful.
- 5:38For others, it may not be appropriate or may
- 5:41not be what they want. Dr. Troutman talks about
- 5:43looking at the full picture through meals, movement,
- 5:47mind, and meds, which can include things like
- 5:49nutrition, exercise, strength training, sleep,
- 5:52support, stress management, therapy, coaching,
- 5:55hormone therapy, and other medications just depending
- 5:58on the person. And I think one of the most useful
- 6:01things that she said was that sometimes telling
- 6:03an exhausted woman to just eat better and exercise
- 6:06more is not especially helpful. It's not bad
- 6:09advice, of course. It's just hard to execute
- 6:12when you are completely depleted. Sometimes you
- 6:15need help feeling better before you can consistently
- 6:17do all those other things to help support your
- 6:20health. So if you're listening to this and thinking,
- 6:22okay, this sounds very familiar. Here's where
- 6:25I would start. Pay attention to what's changed,
- 6:28not just hot flashes. Look at your sleep, anxiety,
- 6:31your energy, your concentration, patience, and
- 6:34even whether you just feel like yourself. You
- 6:38don't need to track every emotion and turn this
- 6:40into a giant project, but it's worth noticing
- 6:42patterns because those patterns help you have
- 6:44a much better conversation with the provider.
- 6:47And then find someone who knows what they're
- 6:49talking about. Ask whether they regularly work
- 6:52with women in perimenopause. Ask how they evaluate
- 6:55symptoms. Ask what treatment options they discuss
- 6:58and what else they want to rule out. If you feel
- 7:00dismissed, keep going. You are not being dramatic
- 7:04because you want to sleep through the night.
- 7:06And remember basic nouns. I mean, these are very
- 7:09reasonable goals. And finally, be careful about
- 7:12turning any of this into a statement about your
- 7:14competence. If you're struggling with focus or
- 7:17sleep or anxiety, get curious before you get
- 7:20critical. Do not immediately decide that you
- 7:23are not as sharp anymore or maybe that you can't
- 7:25handle the role or maybe you should go after
- 7:27a less opportunity. There may be something biological
- 7:31happening that deserves attention before you
- 7:33make it mean something bigger about who you are.
- 7:36And if you need some support at work, you get
- 7:39to decide what that looks like. You do not need
- 7:41to announce your medical history in a conference
- 7:43room. You may simply need to talk about the impact,
- 7:46whether that's sleep disruption, a health issue,
- 7:49or needing a little more structure around something
- 7:51just for a period of time. Every workplace is
- 7:54different and disclosure is personal, but quietly
- 7:56struggling is not your only option. So if there's
- 7:59one thing I want you to take away from this is
- 8:01that. Perimenopause is normal. It's common. Yes,
- 8:05it's going to happen. And it can absolutely affect
- 8:07how you show up in your career. But that does
- 8:09not mean that you're declining. It does not mean
- 8:11that you are suddenly less capable. And it definitely
- 8:13does not mean that you need to spend the next
- 8:16several, and I mean several years, white -knuckling
- 8:19your way through it. Pay attention to what's
- 8:22changed. Ask questions. Find someone who listens
- 8:25and explore the options that make sense for you.
- 8:28Because taking care of yourself is not separate.
- 8:30from being a strong leader. It's part of how
- 8:33you stay one. And there's absolutely no metal
- 8:36for suffering through this alone. If you have
- 8:38not listened to my full conversation with Dr.
- 8:40Case Troutman, go back and listen. There's so
- 8:42much information about what perimenopause actually
- 8:45is, treatment options, and why this matters so
- 8:48much for women at work. Until next time, stay
- 8:52loud, stay lifted, and know that you are not
- 8:54in this alone.