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Blade Runner · The Art of Costume Podcast

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I bet that hurts me, that's pretty cool.
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If I had to like work with a snake on a set, I probably just
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hang my hat when I just bring my own idea, working with snakes
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literally makes me feel nervous. I don't want even like talking
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about it. I hate sneaking.
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Oh my goodness. Hello, and welcome to the art of
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casting black, a Simon's with joy glass and I am not a robot,
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but my name is Spencer Williams. Hey Elizabeth, hi Spence.
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Are you sure about that? Well, like slightly positive
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like 80% positive. I do have a lot of childhood
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memories but they do stop at a certain point, which is kind of
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concerning same. Same.
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Like sometimes I'm like I don't remember my childhood real.
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Well, I don't know if that's concerning are not ever have any
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pictures? I do thankfully, I do.
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Okay. Okay.
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However, I was thinking about Paul wrong the other day and how
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we all keep saying, he's a vampire.
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Yeah, because I saw, I saw the most recent Ant-Man movie.
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And I was like Paul Rudd is aging very well, but he is, and
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I was like, oh my gosh. What?
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If he's like, like a really Advanced robot like a replicant?
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Yeah. Who's just do age slightly?
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But, you know. Hmm.
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But very slowly. If Nelda Elizabeth, that seems
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like a very plausible Theory time and it's like he's
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programmed to be Charming designed, right?
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To look just so handsome and perfect, perfect sense of humor,
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basic pleasure model, but also like a basic talented acting
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model. Yeah.
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Yeah. He eats like us?
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Yeah, he makes jokes like us. Has anyone ever seen Paul Rudd's
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sleep? I don't think we have.
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I don't know. Yeah, I've never seen pictures
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of him like in a bed or something.
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No. I think, I think this is it.
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I don't think he's a vampire. Think he's a replicant.
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I'm really freaked. I'm really freaked out right
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now. Robot movies.
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It really freaked me out. One of my least favorite movies
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of all time is iRobot. Not because it's a bad movie.
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It just freaks me out. I don't like it.
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Yeah, I don't like that either. Like, I think growing up a
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Sci-Fi nerd has like its Made me wary of Technology, right?
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Like, I remember I was looking at an apartment and, like, one
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of the features of the apartment is that it was like, it was
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right one, like Alexa had like those like connect your home
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with Alexa. Hmm.
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And it like had Alexa all throughout the house and I was
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like I'm not moving in here with Alexa listening to me, 24/7.
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Yeah. You know what movie?
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I did not see the past few months.
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Why it's make Meghan. I'm not going to see that.
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That 2spooky I don't if it's a robot I owe anything to do with.
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It is a dollar robot. It looks like a robot.
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It's like a robot play companion from what I understand.
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Yeah, I'm good. I'm good on that one.
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Thank you though. I kind of want to see it.
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But like you like I'm not I'm not the biggest horror fan,
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especially like I'm not a gigantic slasher fan, like
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that's not something. I'm just gonna like go seek out
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myself, right? So I'm like, I need a friend.
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What's by the way? I'm not sure if it's come out of
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this point, but I saw the new scream Sixth and it was
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brilliant. And I am about to interview
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costume. Designer Avery plez, maybe the
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episodes out or not. Not by.
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Now, by this point, you know, we're recording a little bit
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ahead, such a great film, you guys have to go see it so good.
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I am excited for that one. I never thought I'd be a scream
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fan, right? And now I'm like, oh scream
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school, I'd much rather hang out with Ghostface then.
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Any one of these robots, speaking of we are still in our
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sci-fi month and we watch the classic film Blade Runner.
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Yes, I like This is such an interesting film.
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So I was watching one of those where you could feel multiple
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ways about it. Yeah.
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Okay. It's a very quiet film and that
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freaks me out. So I had watched it like a
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couple years ago with a friend and just been like, oh, okay,
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that's like a good movie. What at like, I didn't love it.
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Like a lot of people do, but, but I was like, yeah, it's like,
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it's a good movie. And like, you can see how it has
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influenced a lot of other sci-fi.
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By, which is really cool. And then I was watching it
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today. And my dad got all excited and
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he was like popping in and out with, like, facts about the
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movie, and he was like, you know, the, the original cut had
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a lot of commentary that the studio put in, without Ridley,
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Scott's approval, because they didn't think people could
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understand the plot. Mmm.
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And I was like, I was like, is that The movie so quiet because
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I watch the Final Cup on Hulu which is Ridley Scott approved.
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It was like, yeah, probably. And I was like that explains a
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lot, that explains a lot. Yeah.
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So this was my first time seeing it, which I'm embarrassed to say
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I have. This is one of those movies.
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I have. I have like three movies.
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They're on my list of movies. I've been dying to watch and
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Blade Runner blade runner's. One of them.
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The other two, I'm not even going to say, because they're
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kind of embarrassing, but maybe We'll reveal them, Iran and a
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podcast. Okay?
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One of them's Kill Bill who never seen it and I really want
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to. I know, I know everyone pretend
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like you didn't hear that Blade. Runner is one of those movies
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I've been wanting to just see forever and just for some reason
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I've never made it happen. Finally did and I loved it.
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But I feel like it's one of those films like I said where
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you can feel few ways about it. Yeah, one I think because
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everyone knows aliens like my favorite movie.
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Ridley, Scott directed that one to, which I think it's a
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brilliant film. This movie.
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There was parts of the world, like karna creeped out like the
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whole like Romancing. I was like, I don't know if I
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needed to see that. I don't know if that was
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necessary. Think that is a cultural issue
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of the time? I.
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Okay. I was trying to get out of.
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Yeah. I'm not going to talk about
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further. Iran a podcast on just was
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wondering, I was like, was that like yeah, whoo, how did this
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get approved? So that was an interesting
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scene, like, the cultural influence that this film has had
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on fashion film television. The way like life has played out
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for us, is just really astounding to me and I just love
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the research and talking about it because I really do think
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it's brilliant in the sense that I mean the production of it, the
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costumes of it's all really top tier and some really great
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performances in it as well. Oh yeah, absolutely.
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And before we talk about it anymore, Spencer do you want to
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give us a summary? Sure.
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So Blade Runner a Blade Runner is forced to continue his old
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job as a replicant hunter is assignment eliminate for
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escaped. Replicants foreign economies
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have returned to Earth to find their creator and that is Blade
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Runner. The ad is Blade Runner.
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If you haven't seen it, it's on Hulu.
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One of the versions is that's what we watched.
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That was that was what was free to me.
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That's what I watched. I don't that must I feel like
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that was the cut I saw before, as well.
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Hmm, because like, there was nothing surprising or I didn't
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feel like, I was like missing anything.
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My thought was, I was like, I wonder if the other cuts are
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Sands that very unnecessary. Very uncomfortable romance and
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quotes scene and was like, there must be a cut with that's not
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okay, but I don't know. Let's go behind the Wardrobe
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with the director Ridley Scott and costume designers.
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Michael Kaplan and Charles node you will know Michaels.
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Work from Flashdance Armageddon Fight Club which we should do at
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some point. Hmm.
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Burlesque Spencer's, favorite Star Wars the Force awakens?
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The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker.
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Yeah, you will know Charles is work from Braveheart and the
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1999 TV movie Alice in Wonderland.
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Hmm, both incredible costume designers.
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I mean Michael Kaplan, he is a legendary.
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Yes, he definitely is and going behind her.
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Wardrobe a little bit more when it comes to the, the look of our
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future Los Angeles, which is this is the 1982 future of 2019,
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that's was really wild. I'm just like, wow, people in
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the 20th century really had high hopes for the 21st, right?
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Like they really thought we were gonna be doing things and going
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places. And I'm like, no.
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But the fashion though isn't like entirely off, though, I
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would sail the fashion is not entirely off and that's very
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intentional. The book dressed A Century of
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Hollywood Costume design quotes Ridley Scott as saying I
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insisted that blade runner's. Final look be authentic.
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Not just speculative for instance, take clothes and cars.
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What if you could take Someone a contemporary man and whisk him
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back to the Times Square of 40 years ago.
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He wouldn't I think have that many shocks in store for him.
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He wouldn't be puzzled by 40s clothing either since we're
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seeing something of a Resurgence in the 40s fashion right now,
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fashion is always cyclical, which so true and I like, how he
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took that analogy of like, well, if you grab someone and plop
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them back, 40 years, In the past like, you know, it's not that
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surprising. So he really wanted to do the
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same going 40 years forward like you know fashion doesn't change
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that much but the needs and circumstances of what fashion
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has to be does. Right?
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Which could really be true to be said about, you know, where we
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are in fashion today as well, which I think is really
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interesting. Hmm, with that Elizabeth.
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I think we need to go take our Ott test.
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Make sure that we're both clear for action and we're going to
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talk about Blade Runner. After this break.
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Yes. Spencer, are you ready to get
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into this beep? Beep, bop bop You ready?
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We see you did not pass the task but that is no matter before we
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jump into the characters, I want to talk about these background
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actors. Oh my gosh, the world of Blade
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Runner is simply wild. It is so beautiful.
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It's so impressive. Yeah.
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Parts of their kind of grimy and a little gross, but the actual
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fashion and a World building was just so impressive and it's so
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funny to me like we mentioned that this is San Jose 2019 when
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she know I lived we both lived in Los Angeles in 2019.
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I just really want to Tyra. I mean away though, blade
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runner's, just inspired fashion and culture today with the
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neo-noir cyberpunk looks and garments.
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I mean, just thinking about designers Mughal are McQueen's
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Siobhan she fall show of 1998, Gareth pews collections wraps
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them as Prada Vivienne Westwood there's So many influences that
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designers have taken from this film and vice versa, and also to
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influence on costume design saying in, you know, Star Wars
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which Michael Kaplan went on to do Star Wars.
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I always think of that second, Star Wars, Michael Kaplan did,
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which one is that last Jedi where he designs those casinos,
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which feels very much like Blade Runner.
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Now we've talked about The Fifth Element, a lot which came out
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and, you know, later on video games.
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Yeah. Twenty years later even cars, I
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mean, even if he has, he who shall not be named of Tesla has
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cited references to this film for the design of some of these
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new Tesla cars coming out. It's just wild, that's because
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it's brilliant. And like even before I saw that
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like The Fifth Element took inspiration from this, I
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actually thought of that this time because I hadn't seen The
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Fifth Element last time. I saw this movie, and I saw it
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this time and I was like, oh, This is very much the Los
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Angeles of The Fifth Element like The Fifth Element.
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Just it's like brighter colors. There's like a little more like,
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hope in the world of The Fifth Element, right.
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And also film has little bit more New York which that you
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could also come talk about is how this well, yeah but I agree
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with you is that that it is kind of almost like similar though,
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we're like that was very New York and this is like LA and
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that same kind of scope which is cool because this to me does A
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little more LAX, little bit more street style, little bit more
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grimier, and contemporary which I think is really cool and not
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to mention just how incredible the sets and the production was,
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I actually was just at the Warner Brothers Studio tour the
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other day, and we actually drove through the set and it's just
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like a plain basic Street. The way that they transform this
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for Blade. Runner was just incredible.
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It truly is. And Michael Kaplan says of the
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world and the character of Decker, that after reading the
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script we definitely felt that Blade Runner was of that film
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Noir genre and we looked back to films of the 1940s for
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inspiration. Decker played by Harrison Ford
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was as much a gumshoe as Sam Spades played by Humphrey
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Bogart. And this I I felt kind of like
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Rain. Because this is a very different
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character for Harrison Ford, right?
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Like, he's always kind of grumpy but like this was like a very
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like insightful grumpy. I was like, I'm not I'm not used
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to this for my Harrison Ford characters.
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He's usually a little bit louder.
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He is a grumpy guy, but I do love like the film Noir element
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to it because, yeah, it is super futuristic but then the close
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almost gives it that you are feeling.
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It's really cool and I love that it really sets his character
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specifically like apart from everyone else.
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Yeah, and Ridley Scott is quoted in dressed.
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A Century of Hollywood Costume design about Harrison Ford's
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character saying, Harrison signed on to Blade Runner in
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late October of 1980. He drove into London and I think
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he still had that goddamn hat on.
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He wore as Jones I thought oh shit because up to that point
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we'd seen Decker, wearing the same kind of hat.
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The kind they used to sport in those old Noir Thrillers so
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there went Decker's hat. I thought, okay, if the hats out
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the window, we'll give him a crew cut, which is where
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Decker's brushed cut came in, which I love that quote, because
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I think it's so fascinating. Because in films, Have to
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suspend disbelief, but they have to think about like, okay, what
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else is the actor doing at the time?
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Like, you can't make, you know, they couldn't make him Indiana
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Jones again. Again, like they couldn't make
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him look like that because all people would be thinking about
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is Indiana Jones. He literally could not wear a
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hat, it was just, it would not be acceptable, it would not
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because it would be too much of a distraction.
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So they had to go and like change, give him a hair, a whole
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Haircut. This isn't even like a normal
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Harrison Ford haircut. No we just think of Han Solo and
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like that little kind of wispy luscious locks.
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Yeah, very handsome but a lot of thought into his look Ridley,
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Scott said about it. His shirts and ties and Suits
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were remarkably discreet. I didn't want diagonal slits.
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We were always thinking about Philip Marlowe and the law.
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Long. Goodbye, mmm.
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But I do love how they use those like, big Silver Screen, like
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1940s and 30 stars as inspiration for these
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characters. Oh man, I mean, I love his
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jacket like that kind of trench coat with the big lapel collar.
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It's so cool. I love how oversized that
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collar, is because it still feels very film Noir, but then,
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the size of it makes it feel to me.
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Very Kind of futuristic. Such a great, great piece.
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I also, I particularly liked his shirt.
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Yeah, you can't see it real well, but like there's one point
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in his apartment when he takes his coat off.
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And it's like for rightly colored, it's got this like
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pretty hectic print on it, it is real funky and the it has a
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pretty interesting cut and it's just it's just Shows, like he
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has a little bit of depth of character to him because you
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wouldn't think like, oh, this like street-smart, like
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detective /, basically assassin is gonna wear this like polka
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dot print shirt, but he does. And it like, I feel like it
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shows that inner character he has and the inner conflict.
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Yeah. Like before he retired, he
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probably was a fun guy who appreciated the cool funky
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shirt, you know? Yeah.
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Oh my gosh, one of my favorite characters.
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Now, definitely my favorite character, was Rachel.
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I mean, the moment I saw her on-screen.
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I was just like wolf. She is incredible.
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Rachel is incredible. And she also got the 1940s
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Starlet inspiration. As Ridley Scott is quoted in
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dressed, A Century of Hollywood Costume design saying, when Sean
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was made up in her, Her 40s outfit.
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She somewhat reminded me of Rita Hayworth.
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She had that look and Haworth had been my ideal of the Sphinx
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like Femme Fatale. Ever since I saw her in Gilda, I
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suppose, you could say, Rachel was my homage to Gilda?
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Yeah, I mean, the Rita Hayworth. Yeah, definitely comes through
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for sure. And I just felt like Rachel was
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such a brilliant character. I loved the power.
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She is wearing, which, by the way, I mean, this look really
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transcends time, and designers have been knocking it off ever
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since Blade Runner. Yeah, Michael said to an another
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for Rachel's character, our chief Inspirations were to
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tailored suits that Gilbert Adrian designed in the late,
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1930s and early 40s. He said that he liked the idea
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of combining different shades of suiting, Fabrics to create
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patterns, something Adrienne did and this case I used amazing
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vintage suiting, wolens and shades of grey, and beige.
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With metallic threads. I was lucky enough to find which
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create a subtle luminous quality.
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I want to create a futuristic heroine who is believable in the
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future but with her feet firmly planted and film Noir past when
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it's I definitely see that she gives like old Hollywood.
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Yeah. Same time being like hello
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futuristic Joan Crawford, almost.
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Yeah. And I love that.
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He's like like suiting Fabrics with that like metallic shine to
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it because if that's really what like It into a futuristic.
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Yeah. Also, just like the stunning
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fit. I'm like, oh, this is why big
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shoulders were so common in the 80s.
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This is what everybody was trying to do and did not succeed
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at, okay? I don't want it to be Rachel.
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I mean, this is tailored down. This is the tailoring is
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impeccable on all of her? Looks.
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Yeah, I feel like they tailored it.
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The morning of It is that good. The fit is within an inch of her
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life is just so brilliant. And also, all of her coats,
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which, by the way, we don't get to work coats in LA.
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But if we did, I like to. Imagine they all look like this.
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Every time I saw Rachel in the coat, my jaw dropped is so good.
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Like The Furs, the patterns within the fur like that blue
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one with just the huge fur collar all around it.
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Oh my gosh, it's so Like maybe we should be fancy so I can wear
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these. I love like the huge oversized
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collar. It's so cool.
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I also love the part where she's like, kind of disguising herself
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in the crowd, but she still wearing this big fur coat with a
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huge collar and I would again, like, I stopped as like Rachel,
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we can see you like, yeah, very easy to notice in the crowd,
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you're not hiding. But like, okay, I guess
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everybody is dressed pretty wild, maybe this.
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It works. I don't know.
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Right, it's so good and she just looks so beautiful all the time.
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I mean, it's no wonder why Harrison Ford's character
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quickly fell in love? Yeah, she just, yeah looks
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amazing. And then we have batty.
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Such such an interesting guy, daddy.
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It was interesting. I kind of was wavering back and
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forth on him, but what I'm not wavering on was that cool
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jacket. He's wearing Think, I mean, that
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was a jacket. I mean, we just talked about the
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Matrix I'm sure. Kim Barrett had Baddie somewhere
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hanging on her Workshop wall when they were working on the
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Matrix. Like it's literally, they took a
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biker jacket and turned it into a duster.
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So cool, like, the amount of detail treated, and that collar.
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I've never seen a color that looks like that before in my
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life. It's like a rounded.
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I mean, I just never seen it. It's so interesting.
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It's kind of like a Dracula, kind of capable most to it built
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into a motorcycle jacket. I love it.
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And it's perfect for him hiding and like, but trying to like,
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because he's trying to get shit done.
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He is unsuccessful and I feel bad for him.
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All the, all he wanted to do was live longer than 14 years,
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right? Yeah.
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The replicants. I mean, I understand the goal
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here, maybe. We were need to work on their
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public relations, you know, Communications.
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But yeah, that jacket, I'll never get over that.
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That categorically changed my life saying that jacket.
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Absolutely. Maybe it wasn't functional.
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I mean, it is kind of like, oversized.
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I can't imagine him being very agile in it, but just saying it
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is very good like that Los Angeles was really gross like
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you needed protection. Yeah, that's fair.
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The same cannot be said for protection.
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Oh my gosh. Poor Zora.
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Yeah, she had the opposite problem.
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She had almost zero protection and she had one of the most most
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gruesome deaths and the film. I was so shocked when she got
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shot down in public and when I woke yeah kind of city is this
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so it's not Sanchez to make sense.
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Yeah Joanna, Cassidy plays Jorah and this look with the clear.
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Coat. I mean how many times have we
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seen something like this on the runway these days now?
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Like so contemporary very of like the 2000s as well when
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everybody was obsessed with plastic clothing.
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Hmm. But also like coming back
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around. I also just love her little like
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I like panty set. It is like super cute.
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And I'm almost like, where can I buy this?
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The black - he has only if the coat.
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Yeah. It's Chic.
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It's very cool. I wouldn't you put it on.
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I was like, okay, I didn't think this was like her going outside
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outfit, but I was like, this is a cool set for sure.
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I think it was. I think that's just what she
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intended to where it's really cool and I'll see I want to get
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like a clear raincoat moment at this point.
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Yeah, it's kind of vibe. I like it.
26:56
Another costume that she had on was the her performance look.
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Has. She works at a strip club?
27:02
Yeah and Joanna Cassidy the actress.
27:05
Actually wrote an article about it for blades own saying, this
27:10
costume, consisted of three, relatively small pieces of nylon
27:14
strategically placed and in thousands of sequence carefully
27:18
glued on my skin it took three hours to apply to make up for
27:21
that scene and a lot of patients which yeah I bet imagine getting
27:26
very cranky over that. Yeah.
27:29
I also read that she had a pet snake that she was able to bring
27:32
onset. So that's pretty cool.
27:33
Wait, that's her pet snake. I don't know if that specific
27:36
one is her snake, but she has a snake and she basically was
27:39
like, kind of use my snake. I don't know if it worked out.
27:43
I mean, I bet that's her. I bet that's her snake, that's
27:48
pretty cool. If I had to like work with a
27:51
snake on a set, I probably do. If I had one, I just bring my
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own. Yeah, the idea of working with
27:57
snakes literally. Me feel nervous.
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I don't even like talking about it.
28:02
I hate snakes. Oh my goodness.
28:06
I did read a little bit more to about, like she said, she did
28:10
seem to wear like these nude kind of liked jumpsuits for some
28:13
of these scenes. Like, when she was running down
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the street, I don't think she was fully.
28:17
Just like, in the brawn, ranko sounds like she's wearing some
28:20
sort of like very nude jumpsuit underneath.
28:24
So make sense the very you know, revealing moments, I don't She
28:28
was actually nude, which made me feel a little bit better because
28:31
I felt like now this fellow gross to me at first.
28:35
Yeah. Who wrote the theme of this
28:37
movie? Feels a little gross.
28:39
Yeah. But I was happy to hear that
28:41
sound like the costume designers hooked her up with like here.
28:44
Put this on. You'll feel a little bit better
28:46
type of panting so but yes, ooh, I do love her like dancer look
28:52
though because it reminds me of Mystique.
28:59
Yeah, I see that I've made a made a great mystique and the
29:06
hair the hair so 80s, but it works.
29:09
I mean, I love the 80s so I'm not going to knock.
29:12
It's pretty cool. You would go back and live in
29:15
the 80s. If you could, wouldn't you?
29:18
I don't know. I think usually, I'd say yes,
29:22
but I've been kind of like in a 70s mood lately but I press
29:26
still fall back on the 80s. Let's be Real.
29:28
You could we could put you back into the 70s and you just live
29:31
through the 70s and 80s where we cool.
29:34
I like that idea. I did love pris talk about a
29:40
woman who knows how to get things done.
29:44
Yes she was a wild character Sopris is as they called her to
29:49
basic pleasure model which is basically there were away saying
29:53
that she's a prostitute and she looks I mean I love her.
29:58
Look It's very 2023. I would say, like, I definitely
30:03
see people wearing looks. I look just like this.
30:05
It's very edgy, but still kind of Street wearing away.
30:09
Absolutely. Like I, you can't even really
30:12
say like, oh, it's like you can't say it's got its kind of
30:16
punk, but like not, not even, I wouldn't even quite say Punk.
30:21
It's very contemporary. I actually would say it's punk.
30:26
I dare say that like the punk influence in this film is so
30:30
strong. But I think this is really what
30:32
defines what we think of as like that cyberpunk.
30:36
Look, that's a good point. Yeah, like I think it's really
30:40
stems from Blade Runner honestly, for me, I think it
30:43
comes from here and I think it's such a cool.
30:45
Look, I was trying to do some research on this costume in
30:49
particular and it just kept reading this quote for Really
30:51
Scott being like why wander look like a prostitute.
30:54
Like, that was the inspiration. I like, well, I guess, you know
30:57
that Yeah. Sure not a lot of deep character
31:01
development there. Yeah.
31:03
I particularly though liked her final.
31:06
Look of just the black see-through.
31:09
Yeah. How do you see you like with the
31:12
makeup? It was really very striking.
31:15
Very striking such iconic look to.
31:18
Yeah. And I feel like it kind of
31:20
turned her into like more of a superhero.
31:24
Mmm. Then just a robot trying to
31:28
extend. Her life when she was doing all
31:30
those flips and stuff. I was actually scared.
31:32
I think she was probably the more scary character of the film
31:36
like this. If I were Harrison Ford's
31:38
character, I would have been shaking.
31:40
Like, actually, you know what? I am retired.
31:43
So I could just go home. I felt bad for him.
31:47
He was like, I don't want to do the yeah.
31:50
But yeah, she looks so cool. I love the collar.
31:55
That's very the kind of 90s, I think.
31:58
You like a Courtney, Love viable little bit to her before.
32:01
Courtney Love was Courtney Love, You know, yeah.
32:04
Like Courtney Love's when she was in the hole, which one of my
32:07
favorite bands, so great. But then we have Tyrell, he is
32:15
the guy who's kind of responsible for this whole mess
32:18
and he appears in this bathrobe moment.
32:23
Elizabeth, and the way my jaw hit the floor.
32:26
I know is That I don't wear bathrobes but I would if it was
32:31
this bathrobe, it is so dope. I was like this for a bathrobe,
32:35
this is unnecessary, but I'm here for it.
32:39
I've never seen a bathro where I was like that should be in a
32:41
museum somewhere. It's just so interesting.
32:44
It looks like something. Somebody would wear to the
32:46
Grammys right. That is what it looks like.
32:51
And feels like something. We would have just sound, like,
32:54
didn't evil nerves Dune. Like this is like Emperor type.
32:59
Bathrobe, you know. Absolutely.
33:02
And I like that it was white because he is such like, a
33:07
sleazy character. It's like you created all these
33:09
people but like, you don't give two shits about them.
33:15
Mmm. Yeah, such a crazy plot.
33:17
Yeah. He's like, oh, what are you
33:20
doing here? Yeah, definitely not a
33:24
character. I enjoyed, but when he came on
33:26
that bathrobe and then it, You know, he has that a motif of the
33:30
owl, they have like a howl flying around.
33:32
He has like a little owl patch on his robe which I thought was
33:35
fantastic. That's cute.
33:38
Yeah, I love a little patch moment and then we have the guy
33:44
who kind of pulled us into this whole mess was Gaff and he has
33:49
like a really interesting again very film Noir look but still
33:53
very futuristic like this to me was the most film Noir but the
33:58
Like textiles and a metallic elements to them to me is what
34:03
screamed like 2019 I guess. But like their idea of 2019 I
34:10
just love that he's wearing a full three-piece suit with a bow
34:14
tie and this jacket. Mmm, like this heavy, wool
34:19
jacket, like sir, like why do you look so good to be a police
34:24
officer like with the fedora? To like, that's really that's
34:29
really like that 40s, you know, element that we were talking
34:33
about. Also, another reason why
34:34
Harrison Ford could not have worn a hat, we could have had
34:37
two hats. I would have been too much, the
34:39
color choices. Really interesting to like the
34:41
yellow underneath. I like, I love the couldn't tell
34:46
if it was like quilting or like, leather details within the
34:49
jacket really just gave it that extra little, like, like
34:53
futuristic push that I needed. Yeah.
34:56
Well, sounds like embossed look to it.
34:58
That the right word, let's say it.
34:59
So yeah, I think so. And with that, that brings us to
35:06
the end of Blade Runner. I mean, there's just so many
35:09
costumes, we could probably do just like a three-hour long
35:12
podcast, talking about every single costume, we saw on
35:15
screen. There were so many good ones.
35:17
Yeah. All right.
35:19
Elizabeth and is time to play our favorite game.
35:23
I'm a little nervous for this one.
35:24
What about you? Me, too.
35:29
Daniel, the one costume to rule them all.
35:38
Spencer, but 101 costume to rule them all.
35:42
I still feel a little wavering on it.
35:45
I don't know. I think it's definitely a
35:49
Rachel. Look, Rachel had all the best
35:53
licks I think I settled with Rachel's blue coat.
35:56
Look with the big oversized collar.
36:00
It's just such a statement and it's just like her.
36:03
I'm going out moment, you know, going from house to house, you
36:07
just need to Little understated coat for today and it's just
36:11
such a it's so futuristic to me but still sets are in that like
36:17
film Noir old Hollywood look for me which is really cool and I
36:21
just it's such a chemistry that they had to do to make this
36:25
happen. It's very, very detailed and I
36:29
just thought Rachel was such a fun exciting character to I just
36:33
fell in love with immediately so yeah, I think that would be my
36:35
one customer the wall like I'll shout out to just like that
36:39
first look. We saw her in and a black though
36:41
when he gets to honorable mention.
36:44
Yeah, honorable mention is there black.
36:46
Look, I agree with that. Honorable mention, however, my
36:52
one costume to rule them all is Prince's final.
36:55
Look that sheer black jumpsuit, yes, perfectly coordinated,
37:00
makeup and overall iconic. Look because I knew about this
37:04
look before my watch Blade Runner.
37:08
That and like Harrison Ford's. Look.
37:10
I knew those looks before I watch the movie the first time
37:14
and I just think it's like it's very Priss.
37:17
It's like kind of like turns her into the person.
37:21
She is instead of the person she was created to be, right?
37:25
She's really experimenting and feeling like she could just be
37:28
who she wants to be in this moment.
37:30
She's just having fun with her makeup.
37:33
And like you said, it's such iconic makeup.
37:35
Look, I knew this look before I even saw it.
37:37
A film and I'm I guarantee it's inspired countless artists, you
37:41
know, throughout the years on fashion runways and whatnot, and
37:45
editorial. So yeah, that's a good one.
37:47
Elizabeth, thank you. And if you want to tell us your
37:51
one costume to rule them all you can call our voicemail at 62 65
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at gmail.com and Spencer. What are we watching next week?
38:07
Well, We're ending our sci-fi month is I'm sad to say because
38:12
we love sci-fi, but it's not exactly quite over.
38:16
Just like last year, may is going to be dedicated to Star
38:20
Wars month in honor of made a fourth.
38:23
Yeah, yes, I'm so excited that we're going to continue where we
38:26
left off last year, if you don't, if you remember we have a
38:30
great episode on the first Star Wars A New Hope.
38:33
We talked about the costumes designed by John Malo.
38:36
Now we're going to be talking about Empire Strikes Back and
38:39
I'm very excited. I've never actually dived into
38:43
the costumes of Empire Strikes Back.
38:45
So I'm excited to do that with you.
38:47
I'm very excited to revisit my Star Wars costume book and and
38:52
get all the facts out of it and let's be real.
38:55
It might be our favorite Star Wars.
38:57
At least it's mine. Who that, you know what?
39:01
I might have to agree with you might.
39:04
It's definitely second place, if not first for me.
39:08
Actually, this is opening a can of worms, let's just continue.
39:11
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best in costume design. Which I love because it's after
41:00
let anyone out. Like mid thought she me out and
41:07
looked at me with those big cat eyes, then you just felt or like
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this sentence. Like mid thought she me out and
41:07
looked at me with those big cat eyes, then you just felt or like
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this sentence.