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- 2:16this morning. Go to further the pot talk in Charleston with city councilmen out
- 2:21of Ward twenty chat at Robinson. I got into this a little bit yesterday
- 2:24and Hoppy somewhat stole some of my thunder. I'm kidding by having Counselman Robinson
- 2:30on the show yesterday, but I'm going to get into it further with Counselman
- 2:34Robinson, who, by the way, was I had him schedule a couple
- 2:38of days ago. And uh, dis kind of an entering story because the
- 2:44story here is that there is a move by some including at least one person
- 2:47affiliated with the group West Virginia Can't Wait, to basically lessen penalties for those
- 2:53who possess cannabis who are who are busted for cannabis within city limits. Counselman
- 2:58Robinson and others on council want that to be taken care of by council,
- 3:01whereas others maybe you want to get it on the ballot can be kind of
- 3:05complicated. We're going to get into all that withcounts, what robberts are coming
- 3:07up a little bit later on. Plus do you still write checks? A
- 3:12lot a lot of people do, but there there's at least one major retailer
- 3:17here in the area. It's a national chamb but they're here in the area
- 3:21that says no more checks. I'm just kind of curious as to how you
- 3:23feel about that. I'll get into that coming up a little bit later On'll
- 3:25plus your calls and texture always welcome to I want to welcome to the show.
- 3:29Send a finance sha Eric Tar, Good morning sir. How are you?
- 3:30Good morning? Dave done great? How are you this morning? I
- 3:32got to ask you, do you still write checks? I do? Actually
- 3:36I wrote one this morning? Okay, yeah for being on this ship.
- 3:38Now I'm kidding. You did that well and I think it's and I'm gonna
- 3:42get in this a little bit later on. You and I are roughly the
- 3:45same age. Think I'm like a year or two older than you are.
- 3:47No, I don't look at but I am state government age as you.
- 3:51Y'm about ten years older than ought to be So that's exactly right. But
- 3:55you know, Target has announced that they're no longer going to accept checks.
- 4:00It's one of the chains, and there's others that do that. I was
- 4:03kind of when I read that story, kind of curious how people feel about
- 4:06that. But I didn't have you here to talk about that. I want
- 4:09to, but I do want to talk about money. One of your favorite
- 4:12subjects is budgets. And you may be the only guy I know who actually
- 4:15enjoys this kind of thing, mainly because you build a successful business empire pretty
- 4:19much from the ground up, and you don't accomplish that without a a lot
- 4:23of good ideas and good people around you. But being pretty good with money
- 4:27and budgets. Now, the governor wants more tax cuts. You say,
- 4:30what, well, I want more tax cuts too. You know we end
- 4:33of show thank you for coming. Yeah, yeah, we had. You
- 4:36know, we've passed a lot of legislation to reduce taxes as Republican leadership.
- 4:42One of the things that you know, there's a few things, Governor Justice
- 4:44I agree on is one is we have reduced taxes by about a billion dollars
- 4:47since we've been in leadership up here, Actually a little more a billion dollars
- 4:51total, and so we've done that in a way that's very pragmatic, and
- 4:56I think that the people that know me, well, uh, that's something
- 5:00I think would be an easy description of me. Is very pragmatic, especially
- 5:02when it comes to the numbers. You want to be able to grow your
- 5:05economy, and you need the resources to grow in economy, just like if
- 5:10you're starting a business. You need resources to start your business. You need
- 5:12leverage. So we produce that leverage by going in and holding flat budgets and
- 5:17so we were very very controlled onto our spending that produced revenue. That revenue
- 5:23allowed us to go in and invest in economic development in the state. The
- 5:26economic development has allowed us to go in and reduce taxes that pace is with
- 5:30that economic development. And so the bill that we passed has a formula in
- 5:36that bill that says that when West Virginia's economy outgrows the pace of inflation,
- 5:43that the revenue that comes in for that produces a tax cut for the people
- 5:46of West Virginia. And that's how we got into the first part of the
- 5:49tax cut. We went in and took those initial revenues for having had that
- 5:53happen which was about twenty one quarter percent. It was almost a billion dollars
- 5:57in itself, is a near nine hundred million dollars by the time it is
- 5:59all said and done, between that income tax cut and the tax credits that
- 6:02we're accompanied that for vehicles and inventory and things like that. So on top
- 6:08of that, it has these triggers that for pacing. So we're looking at
- 6:11probably having close to a ninety million dollar more of a tax cut with the
- 6:15triggers that are in that bill. On top of that twenty one and a
- 6:16quarter percent that's going to probably be around four percent is what we're expecting.
- 6:24And then in addition that we accelerated that income tax for senior citizens. So
- 6:28we went in and said, okay, for the next three years, we're
- 6:29going to phase out the income tax on also security. Well, we'd already
- 6:33done that for everybody who made it under one hundred thousand dollars as a family
- 6:36or fifty thousand as an individual. This this is the last thirty eight million
- 6:41that was available of that, so this year's another ten million of that.
- 6:44It phases out over three years, So right now we're forecasting having one hundred
- 6:48million dollar tax cut. The Governor's asked for another hundred million on top of
- 6:50that. The problem becomes is that another one hundred million dollars on top of
- 6:56that accelerates the tax cut beyond our economic growth total of one hundred and thirty
- 7:00eight million. When you combine that with Celi security income tax cut? Do
- 7:04I want to do that? Shoot? Yeah, who doesn't want to do
- 7:06that? Surely? No, I want to knock out hell I ran bill.
- 7:09Sorry about that. I'm sorry, I see worse go ahead. But
- 7:14here we've sent it past the bill a few years ago that we knocked the
- 7:16income tax down by fifty percent. We passed that out of the Senate,
- 7:19so and I championed that bill. That one didn't pass the House. We
- 7:25came back and you know, went round to try to figure out how we
- 7:27get that tax down. So we have a path to phase out income tax
- 7:30to zero in West Virginia. It's it's in the books on its law.
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- 8:07last I think it was last week, you were doing an interview with our
- 8:11friends at WMOV Radio and you call the governor's call for more tax cuts quote
- 8:15campaign fodder. Yeah, you clear to qualify to care to clarify that I
- 8:18do. The governor in his primary and in the general, that's just his
- 8:24mo he goes. He loves to say things that just sound great, They
- 8:28sound good, and it's just you know, by golly, who wouldn't want
- 8:31to do the things he says? The problem is is that can we do
- 8:33it practically in West Virginia for a lot of things that he asked for?
- 8:37So on top of having the tax cuts. There's the things that we have
- 8:39we have to do spending in government and just on the books. Right now,
- 8:43I can count pretty quickly, you know, I don't want to get
- 8:46down to the weeds for for your listeners, but about three hundred and twenty
- 8:48five million dollars that is already in law in growth for fiscal year twenty five
- 8:54coming in, So we have we're really sitting on about a five hundred and
- 8:56twenty six million dollars surplus after the revenue estimate increase that he did in this
- 9:01last special session, not eight hundred million, and say it's five hundred and
- 9:05twenty six million. So by the time you would go in and take that
- 9:09three hundred and twenty five million dollars of growth. And that's just stuff I
- 9:11can think for the top of my head. There's always something that surprises me
- 9:15when I come up. So like, okay, I didn't realize this was
- 9:16setting code ten years ago. When those things all come in, you have
- 9:22to have a just like a savings account for your house. You have to
- 9:24have a cushion in your operating capital for things that you're going to want to
- 9:28go in and spend one time dollars on it and these are one time dollars.
- 9:33So we've done it with roads, We've done with bridges, we've done
- 9:35it with all those type of things. We have seven billion dollars worth of
- 9:39federal money to draw down for roads, bridges, water, sewer, and
- 9:41broadband such about eight billion now because i'd another billion on broadband. It takes
- 9:46about eight hundred million dollars of your money and my money to draw down that
- 9:52eight billion. If we go in and we cut taxes so much that there's
- 9:56not a revenue cushion to be able to capture that all the things you've been
- 10:01seeing with these sewer and water projects going down, these businesses rolling into West
- 10:03Virginia, the roads being developed. If we spend ahead of that, and
- 10:07spending ahead of that with a tax cut or with growing our budget too fast,
- 10:11it stops. It stops. It comes to a screeching halt. Think
- 10:16about it. If it's at your house and you start spending way more than
- 10:18you make at your job, and you had been being able to go out
- 10:22and buy buy stakes by your nice grows, take your wife out for a
- 10:26nice dinner, and you've been doing all that, and now you started putting
- 10:30on the book stuff that you're committed for. You went bought ten cars and
- 10:31you can't afford them. Now, well you're not doing that stuff anymore.
- 10:35We've been managing West Virginia to be able to live like that, and it's
- 10:41forecasted very well. And we started this forecasting back in twenty twenty to be
- 10:46able to continue to do that. We're on that path now. I think
- 10:48the governor is throwing stuff out there that sounds great, but he knows we
- 10:52can't do worth noting, Senator, you're not the only one that's saying let's
- 10:58have a little bit of pause here. Pumped the breaks a little bit.
- 11:01Center. President Blair was on with Hoppy yesterday and he says he's not a
- 11:05post I mean, I think the exact quote was, he's not necessarily opposed
- 11:09to it, but let's just hold up a little bit. I don't want
- 11:11to put words in his about that's pretty much what he said. Even Attorney
- 11:15General and current Goubern's World Canada Patrick Morrissey is also advising caution here. Yeah,
- 11:20yeah, we have to have that caution. The you have to have
- 11:24money to go in and do the things I've talked about for to grow West
- 11:26Virginia. We have got to get population here, and we have that coming.
- 11:28We got you know, one of the things that Patrick Morrisey says frequently,
- 11:31and he's right, We've got sixty eight thousand open jobs on the book.
- 11:35We need sixty eight thousand people to fill those jobs. So we have
- 11:39neighborhood about eight hundred thousand taxpayers in West Virginia, give or take, and
- 11:45we have one point eight million populations. So you got those eight hundred thousand
- 11:46taxpayers who are carrying West Virginia. We have got to get people here.
- 11:52And so when we're looking at that, if the fast the faster we can
- 11:56cut taxes is dependent upon the economic growth, there's just no other way to
- 12:01get there. So would I want to go in and knock down taxes?
- 12:05I would love to now to knock out the income tax entirely. To do
- 12:09it, you either cut more spending or you swap taxes out somewhere else.
- 12:15So the legislature would have to go in and politically say, okay, well
- 12:16where do we want to raise a tax if we want to accelerate it,
- 12:20or where are we going to go in and do more spending reductions? So
- 12:24just to get to a neutral. We're going to have to go in and
- 12:26do spending reductions of about three hundred and twenty million. That's no small lift
- 12:31just to go in and say, okay, well now we're a break even
- 12:33to where we could go in and say, instead of that three twenty million
- 12:35of growth, can we put that over into taxes? Would I love to
- 12:37do that. I will help any governor try to do that. We want
- 12:39to go in and talk about control and spending. I am all about it.
- 12:43I have been doing that since I've been up here in twenty nineteen,
- 12:46along with a large team in the Senate in the House. So we're good
- 12:50at control and spending. We've done it so aggressively though, that it's getting
- 12:54to the spot now to where we've got the low hanging fruit. And so
- 12:58when you go in and you go after the rest of it, you're really
- 13:00starting to pick a stuff that bleeds the I guess this is going to be
- 13:05addressed during the special session a little bit later on in the summer. Any
- 13:11predictions out of you, I mean, how what's what's what's everybody else saying
- 13:13about this? You know, we haven't got to discuss it as a caucus,
- 13:16and so for where we're all in one room yet. And I've had
- 13:20a few conversations with other senators and they have the same thing. The very
- 13:24first thing is they just look up and say, oh my gosh, not
- 13:26again when they hear what you know governor did. And part of the problem
- 13:30with what the governor did is you don't he doesn't have these conversations with us
- 13:33ahead of time. He doesn't come into us in the room and say,
- 13:35Okay, you know what I'd like to do another one hundred million dollars of
- 13:39tax reduction on top of one hundred million dollars of tax reduction that's already on
- 13:41the books, come in for twenty twenty five. It's okay, well,
- 13:45let's hear your ideas. That doesn't happen. What happens is it goes up
- 13:48and announces, okay, I'm going to do this in the special session,
- 13:50and we're blindsided because there's planning that goes along, that has been going for
- 13:56years to be able to complish what we do, and to give us a
- 13:58month's notice on a million dollar tax cut, is that I mean, that's
- 14:01significant, that's it's it's it's reckless. I want to ask you a personal
- 14:05question. You can choose not to answer it if you if you want,
- 14:09are you supporting the governor and has been for Senate? For Senate? You
- 14:13know I'm going to have a hard time voting for Jim Justice for Senate,
- 14:16I'll tell you that. But I'm not gonna vote for the Democrat candidate either.
- 14:20What my position is on the US Senate. In the US Senate,
- 14:24it has to go to the right that we need a Republican majority. My
- 14:28fear with Jim Justice is that if he's not a position of influence, he'll
- 14:33switch parties. So say the Republicans don't win the US Senate and now you
- 14:37have Republican minority setting up there. If if that's the case, does Jim
- 14:41Justice stay a Republican. He's proven he'll hop to the side that they're gives
- 14:45h the power, and I'm not that guy. I'll hold to the values
- 14:50that I that I hold deer and I vote for people that I think who
- 14:54would have that same behavior, and I don't trust that out of Jim Justice.
- 14:58There are reports that he may be addressing the Republican National Convention, that
- 15:01he and Baby Dog at the Republican National Convention next week. That's first I've
- 15:05heard of that. I've heard that, but it doesn't surprise me. And
- 15:07this baby dog should be the one up there doing it. That's baby Dog's
- 15:11done the talking here. All right, we'll leave it there. I will
- 15:13give you time to Is there anything else on your radar you want to talk
- 15:16about? No, No, I think you hit most of it. Appreciate
- 15:20you having me on the show. All right, well we can. I
- 15:22ask you one more question because I just got to. That's one thing I
- 15:26like about Eric, you know, is that you're not afraid to answer questions.
- 15:31Somebody asks, somebody text here and ask about your interest in the Senate
- 15:33presidency. You know, there's there's a lot of interest in Senate presidents right
- 15:39now. There's the whole decks getting shuffled in the Senate, and so there's
- 15:43a lot of members that are that are looking at Senate presidency. What I'm
- 15:46looking at is that for me personally, whether it's me or whether it be
- 15:50anybody else, we have got to continue on the path that we've been doing
- 15:54with regards to the economy of West Virginia because it has We've got hope in
- 15:58this treats of West Virginia again, like I've never seen and continues to grow.
- 16:03That has to keep going. Policy wise. I'm also a very conservaive
- 16:06individual, very socially conserved individual. There's a if you go back and look
- 16:08at the bills that are felled of mine, that have feled year after year
- 16:11after year, that are social conservative policy. Almost all my economic development bills
- 16:15have passed since I've been up there. I think I got one or two
- 16:18that haven't, and it's been a bunch, but my social bills have.
- 16:22They're only got there. So I'm very much self conservative. What I'm excited
- 16:25about the opportunity of being able to see both of those go without competing for
- 16:29one another in the new Senate. My fear is is that the competition switches
- 16:36back and forth and one gains more leverage of the other one. I think
- 16:38both have the equal merit, and so those are discussions. I think our
- 16:42caucus is going to have to go go forward because you're going to you're not
- 16:45gonna have same Judiciary chair, You're not gonna same have same health chair.
- 16:48There's potential if my seat changes, you don't have the same finance chair.
- 16:52So you got major seats that change, which means all those those committees change,
- 16:56so you know, it's it's a new deck of cards. It's it's
- 17:00getting shuffled. So I think that there's going to be there's still a lot
- 17:03of discussion we had on that, and I think Senate President Craig Blair sits
- 17:06there right now. He's done a really good job. He's continuing on the
- 17:07work that we're doing right now. I think he'll be there for a good
- 17:11while. And somebody picking a center president, it's premature right now. I
- 17:15think it's a discussion he's going on. All right. Senator, it's always
- 17:18pleasure to have you on the show. Thanks love Man, Yeah, thanks
- 17:18for having me. He's Senator Eric Tar. It's nine to twenty four of
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- 19:12do I just want to go hang out in a splash pad at the ballpark
- 19:15today? Help me knock out some texts here, man, oh man,
- 19:18I got a bunch of them here to Texas Dave, we have not been
- 19:25able to manage all of our children's health, education or housing needs in the
- 19:27state. There's no surplus. There's only poor budgeting and it's at the feed
- 19:32of the legislature. Can't blame the governor anymore, says a Texter Texas says
- 19:37need eight hundred million dollars for federal matching funds. Absolutely do that every day
- 19:41to ten times your money. But where is the need of increase funding for
- 19:45clear needs in DHHR, teachers pay, state worker pay, and other support
- 19:49for basic needs. Texas to West Virginia citizens be worried by the fake surplus
- 19:56and book cooking by the Justice Administration. Surplus is like an Amazon sale where
- 20:02they raised the price the week before to discount later. Texas, Dave,
- 20:07we don't have a bridge maintenance program. We don't have a speed enforcement.
- 20:10Don't decrease taxes until these problems are solved. Texas, all my social bills
- 20:15fail because I'm too conservative, but my economic one passes. If the lord
- 20:19isn't giving Taras sign, I don't know what else it could be. It's
- 20:23a Texter, Texas. We don't have a surplus. We just robbed the
- 20:27people of services to austerity, to the detriment of children, education, and
- 20:32health, then dropped revenue projections to easily manageable goals and called the booty for
- 20:37rob services a surplus as a Texter coming up on tomorrow's show, one of
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- 20:45guy. The last time I checked on him, Stevin Thomas was shooting a
- 20:49video in New York, so he scheduled to be on the show tomorrow.
- 20:52Also, Crescent Gallagher from Americans for Prosperity will be stopping by the show tomorrow
- 20:56as well. Charleston City councilan out of the Ward twenty Chad Robinson us here
- 21:00counsel a good morning, Good morning her. You don't finally see you survivor
- 21:03got it? We did? What a What an event? I mean,
- 21:06what an event for Charleston In all seriousness. I mean we had a lot
- 21:08of fun and everything, but I mean we're gonna be looking at the economic
- 21:11matters for some time. But as a as a Charlestonian as you are,
- 21:17pretty big event. I remember going when I was in junior high and going
- 21:21down to the crowds and this weekend and that the Mayor's team and Jane Bostic
- 21:26and all involved. I hate to say names because I miss people that are
- 21:29revolved, but man, what an event. That's just people going for for
- 21:33four or five days and the vendors, all the compliments the vendors have given
- 21:38us UH, the sales they've they've received, the downtown businesses. It's just
- 21:44it's a boom for the city. All right. So you you talked about
- 21:48this with Hoppy yesterday and I covered it yesterday a little as well. But
- 21:52I want to get a little bit of deep diver here, deep dive this
- 21:55thing about cannabis and Charleston. There is a move on UH to take a
- 22:00second or third look at things here. Aaron Parker had an end depth story
- 22:02about it on the website posted Monday night. The problem is there's a couple
- 22:07different approaches here. Let's talk about the side coming from you and the City
- 22:10Council Committee on Ordinance and Rules. Now, this all has to do with
- 22:12I don't want to say decriminalizing. That's not the that's not the correct term.
- 22:17But it's lessening penalties for first time of people that are arrested or detained
- 22:23for cannabis usage, simple possessions, simple possession. That's what I was looking
- 22:27for. Yeah, we're so we A couple of weeks ago during council there
- 22:32were two bills introduced, eight zero three nine and eight zero four to three.
- 22:37The eight zero three nine was introduced by myself and councilman front up to
- 22:42state code. Marijuana laws and Charleston have not been updated since twenty eleven,
- 22:48so that's what And they have changed on the state level absolutely and federally,
- 22:52you know, we can't do anything that federal level doesn't allow us to do
- 22:56in the state will just follow a suit. So that's where we're We can't
- 23:00do anything. We can't decriminalize it, we can't make it legal. But
- 23:03what we're trying to do is modernize our marijuana laws in Charleston. How did
- 23:08they Why weren't they modernized to begin with, I'm asking that down question.
- 23:11I'm not sure why. I've been on council for six years. I'm not
- 23:14sure. They just haven't been touched. So you discussed two bills Monday night,
- 23:18and these were in committee meetings, correct, I'm the chair of Ardens
- 23:21and Rules and that they talk about that and so talk about what was discussed.
- 23:25So we discussed UH the two approaches. The other the other one is
- 23:29a citizen petition and this comes from a group from the Charleston Can't Wait Group.
- 23:34This requires basically to put the question on the ballot UH to conall county
- 23:40regarding marijuana and in my terms, non legal is decriminalizing marijuana. It would
- 23:48allow no jail time for all offenses. It would Uh, there's some issues
- 23:55with the legally with the petition language. But what we're trying to do is
- 24:02work within our ordinances to try to come up with some language that we can
- 24:06update them un until we're told what we can do in the City of Charleston.
- 24:10So what I'm reading from this councilman is is that on one side you
- 24:12have discreet and there are people that are associated with the group Charleston can't wait.
- 24:15They claim to have had and I have no reason to out them around
- 24:18two thousand or so signatures to get it put on the ballots. Whereas you
- 24:23are saying that this is something and again stop me if I'm wrong, you're
- 24:27saying this is something that's best left up to city council. Well, we
- 24:33with the cities the petition. Let me go backwards. Yesterday we confirmed that
- 24:37there were over eighteen hundred valid signatures. Okay, so now we have thirty
- 24:41days to take actional on this system's petition. We can pass it, we
- 24:48can reject it and send it to the county to put on a ballot,
- 24:51which would cost the City of Chreston up to one hundred thousand dollars for a
- 24:55ballot initiative. My personal opinion, and it's only my personal opinion, is
- 25:00let us work with an ordinance, our bill, with Counselman Anny and come
- 25:07up with some solution that we can do in the meantime to save the city
- 25:14some money not go to the ballot, and also to update our laws on
- 25:18marijuana simple possession charges. I don't think people realize when you talk about putting
- 25:23something on a ballot and how expensive that is. You threw out that number
- 25:27and people say, I mean, why does it cost one hundred thousand dollars?
- 25:30We're told between seventy five and one hundred thousand dollars for this request if
- 25:36we had to put it on the ballot. Now. The third option is
- 25:38is if we get to a solution with our bill and also to we're working
- 25:44on a committee substitute and we'll be back before my committee on Monday at Monday
- 25:48evening, the petitioner can withdraw the requests and we can move forward with our
- 25:56committee substitute with some lang which I think is really very very reasonable. What
- 26:02are you what is your sense from other council people in Charleston. Is there
- 26:07a lot I know there's a lot of council people to talk to, and
- 26:08obviously I'm sure you haven't had conversations with all of them. But what is
- 26:11the general consensus of counsel or is it just all over the board. It's
- 26:15all over the board. I think it's you know, in my personal opinion,
- 26:18I think you know that we need to update our laws. Marijuana has
- 26:22been for years, has been discussed, and we need to just look at
- 26:29it and to determine what's best for the City of Charleston. This the committee
- 26:34substitute that we're looking at the first offense, simple possession would be no jail
- 26:40time and core costs. Now it's up to thirty days and five hundred dollars
- 26:47fine, so you know, we're reducing the fees and all that. So
- 26:52I think it's it's a it's a common sense approach. It's financially responsible for
- 26:57the City of Charleston. So I'm gonna play Devil's advocate here, okay,
- 27:03because it's kind of what I do sometimes. Why do I know, we
- 27:07said that the laws need to be updated, and I get that, but
- 27:10there are those and remember where you're living. You know, even though Charleston
- 27:14is the largest city in the state, you're still right in the buckle of
- 27:15the Bible belt here. There are those that are going to say they're going
- 27:19to look at this and say, you are giving a green light for people
- 27:23to use drugs. Sure in marijuana, that's right, marijuana talked about anything
- 27:29else but marijuana. I can tell you that simple possession charges in Charleston are
- 27:33from twenty nineteen, they varied from over three hundred simple possession charges to last
- 27:40year twenty twenty three was two hundred and eighteen simple possession charges that could be
- 27:45a small amount. This is not for sale, personal use without it.
- 27:49This is somebody that gets busted for something, you know, I mean,
- 27:53and they have a small that they have they have, they're not selling it,
- 27:56and they're not dealers that they just have they have some on them.
- 27:59That's correct, And that's all where we're looking at the charge. The second
- 28:03charge and further still stays the same that there were discussions that take all that
- 28:10out of the language. But my committee decided a simple possession first charge only
- 28:15we would reduce that to court costs and no jail tone And I got I
- 28:19got into some of the numbers yesterday, and unfortunately I don't have those numbers
- 28:23in front of me. I know it's part of Aaron's story that's on the
- 28:26website. You probably have the numbers in front of you. But I think
- 28:29I saw that it was like the seventh leading cause of arrest in the city
- 28:34of Charleston. Industru about that, Okay, I trust I thought this was
- 28:38what I read an Aaron story. I thought that's what I read about that.
- 28:41So, I mean, I guess people could also say, if it's
- 28:45only the seventh, let's say it's in the top ten for reasons people are
- 28:48arrested, then is this Isn't this like much ado? I mean, it
- 28:52doesn't seem like it's that big of a deal. Well, it seems like
- 28:55it's it's a big topic. And uh, since I was on Hopy yesterday
- 28:59and today with your show, and I think it's common sense. I mean,
- 29:03it's it's an approach one save the city some money, save the municipal
- 29:07court some time and efforts and costs, and the jail bills, I mean,
- 29:11the jail bills are enormous, and let's do something that saves the city
- 29:15of Charleston residents of money. Uh time for for something small is a simple
- 29:21possession of first charge. And there are those that will say that, and
- 29:25this is one of the arguments made by the other side, that our police
- 29:29have other things they need to be dealing with, other than somebody with a
- 29:30bag of weight. And I agree with that. Our police are are stretched
- 29:34very very thin. And uh and two councils of meeting, I went maybe
- 29:40a little too far. And I think, you know, just because of
- 29:42the issues with the regatta and and are are unhoused downtown. I just think
- 29:48our police are stretched way too thin. This would hopefully would help them,
- 29:53uh in the future, if we can get to a common sense approach.
- 29:57Well, last time I had you on the show, I had you talking
- 30:00about traffic over in Kanawa City. So the everything is cleared up and it's
- 30:04one hundred percent clear over that now, right right right absolutely. I drove
- 30:08down to it today and it felt like I was going through a war zone.
- 30:11Now. Got to say that tongue in cheek because we still got a
- 30:15wye to go. And that's what you talked about last time you were here.
- 30:17It is and and we still have a ways to go. Fingers crossed,
- 30:19November, we'd have some blacktop and some minor, minor issues left for
- 30:23the spring. But I'm still told November, right, and then that's not
- 30:27that's not one completion, right, I mean, and there's that's that's just
- 30:32this one one phase. They're working on the medians now. So looks like
- 30:36we will have some blacktop on mccorcyl for the first eight blocks by the time
- 30:40the black top plants closed in November. Fingers crossed, Fingers crossed, Let's
- 30:45get back before I let you go. I want to get back to to
- 30:48to the to the possession thing. So their city council meeting on Monday night,
- 30:52is there an opportunity. I know that group's got the signatures out there,
- 30:56and you said they set around eighteen hundred to two thousand some people,
- 31:00and you've verified that those that that numbers correct. Are there other ways that
- 31:03the public can can weigh in my emails on the website, my cell phones,
- 31:07my personal cell phones, on the city website, they can always reach
- 31:11out to me and discuss it. My council meeting, I haven't set a
- 31:15time. It's going to be before finance, so at probably five o'clock they're
- 31:18more than welcome to come listen to the committee meeting and listen to discussion.
- 31:22And there's always time to sign up for public comments prior to our city council
- 31:27meeting, and that starts at seven. All right, that's next week,
- 31:30next month's Monday, all right, City councilman. Out of word twenty Chad
- 31:33Robertson. Always a pleasure to have you in the show man. Thanks Dave.
- 31:37This is down on where you going to go next year? On hoppy
- 31:38yesterday? You got me today? What's next? Man? Seeing a Fox
- 31:41News when you're doing as I stay local sounds good. Bet. I appreciate
- 31:47you. Thanks a lot, hang out with me one second here to Dave
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- 35:36me see, I got wow. We got a lot of texts to get
- 35:38to the pot brings them out, folks. The text says, marijuana,
- 35:43it turns out, is an addictive, risky substance. Legalizing its commercial sale
- 35:47causes more people to use it and increases level of addiction. As a result,
- 35:52levels of harm increase. There are health harms. Legalization is consistently associated
- 35:58with increases and hospitals from marijuana related conditions, which can include respiratory depression,
- 36:02cardiovascular problems, cannabis and new psychosis, and the repeat vomity known as cannabis
- 36:08hypermesis syndrome. Heavy marijuana, used particularly in adolescents, is associated with several
- 36:15mental health issues, most pervasively schizophrenia. Why do I think that somebody may
- 36:22have done a little copy and paste job on that It's okay, It's okay
- 36:23if you did. I'm just saying. Text says taking away simple possession charges
- 36:30is now is how rather once great cities like Seattle and Portland first began and
- 36:35then they legalized all drugs. Now, if you've been to Seattle, you've
- 36:38seen that people are basically zombies in the street. Do not Seattle Charleston,
- 36:45says a Texter. I'm thinking, no matter what side of the argument it
- 36:50is that you're on this, somebody needs to make some t shirts out there.
- 36:53Where are you? Where are you? Steve Animal in East Coast t's
- 36:57that say do not Seattle Charleston. That and that person probably should get some
- 37:01of the credit for that. Texas marijuana uses for dummies, says a Texter.
- 37:07Text says the simple fact is a plant that won't kill you from consuming
- 37:12it should not be criminalized. But I guess that's what you get with generations
- 37:15of politicians who like Eric Tarr, think they know what's best for the people,
- 37:21says a texture. Texture says there's at least some support in Seattle and
- 37:29the Senate. I'm sorry, I got I gotta get these glasses fixed in
- 37:32the Senate and this has to do. Somebody sent me a text for Mike
- 37:36Stewart state Senator that said, I guess it was a tweet. It says,
- 37:42I fully support sending more money and this has to do. Somebody sent
- 37:45me a text for Mike Stewart, State Senator that said, I guess it
- 37:51was a tweet. It says, I fully support sending more money back to
- 37:53taxpayers and resisting the temptation to spend the best taxpayer money is in a taxpayer's
- 38:00pocket. That was a tweet that looks like that or an ax. I'm
- 38:02sorry that went out from State Senator Mike Stewart, and I appreciate a listener
- 38:07for sending me that. So at least there is some support for what the
- 38:10governor wants to do there. According to the texture there Textra says, let
- 38:17me see. Seattle has been ranked as one of the best cities in the
- 38:22United States in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four. Seattle ranked eighth in
- 38:28their two thousand Report of America's twenty twenty four Report of America's one hundred Best
- 38:32Cities, citing its walkability and economy. Well, of course, it's could
- 38:37be walking. It has to be walkable because nobody can drive Gouse. They're
- 38:39all stoned. Dex says, we'd advocates would make so much more headway if
- 38:45they embraced it as a vice and quit trying to sell it as some medicine.
- 38:49The most robust studies show we performs at about placebo level for most ailments.
- 38:54There are places where results are encouraging, like seizures and related ailments.
- 38:58But we'd smoke can cause the same cancer as cigarettes, but at a slyly
- 39:02slightly lower rate. Weed is expensive and though not addictive, it's very habit
- 39:07farming. I smoked sums as a Texter. I don't drink or anything else.
- 39:10It's my beer. At the end of the day. The medicine side
- 39:14is overblown. It should not be illegal, but they would possibly gain more
- 39:17traction if the advocates didn't rely on these medical claims. It's a texter.
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- 40:12Let me see. Texays, Yeah, that was definitely copy and paste.
- 40:16I'm the one that texted it about the marijuana stuff and it's altered it,
- 40:20says a Texter. I do want to mention this. There's going to be
- 40:23another public meeting as it pertains to the KRT bus line. There have been
- 40:29lots of changes proposed, including fair changes, eliminating certain routes, et cetera,
- 40:34et cetera. The next public meetings scheduled for tomorrow night, that's Thursday
- 40:37night, started at five. Last hold around seven thirty or so at the
- 40:43main branch of the knawh County Public Library one twenty three Capitol Street on the
- 40:46third floor. It's in the meeting room there, So if you are concerned
- 40:51about the changes or just need some more information, you may want to plan
- 40:53on being there tomorrow night from five until around seven seven thirty or so at
- 41:00the Downtown branch of the library. Also wanted to mention this before we go
- 41:07to break, Aaron Parker has the new guy is certainly certainly getting a lot
- 41:10of traction on the show today. He's got a story posted at wv metronews
- 41:15dot com. The FAA had a pair of meetings at Embassy Suites yesterday to
- 41:20take questions for the public on upgrades propose upgrades to the airport now. Originally
- 41:27there was talk that the runway would be extended and that that could impact Coonskin
- 41:32Park, and that kind of got changed to more like terminal upgrades. Although
- 41:39the runway extension may not, probably not, most likely not is completely off
- 41:45the table. It's not If the runway at the Artists formerly known as Yeager
- 41:52Airport were to be extended, it would it would have been for safety purposes.
- 41:57The original plan and what could have removed parts of the Mountain at Coonskin
- 42:05to make room for what would have been a one thousand or so foot extension.
- 42:09Now there's a group and you may see the signs all over Charleston.
- 42:14I've seen in various places all over Charleston around the valley called save Coonskin Park.
- 42:19And they were represented at the meetings yesterday. Jeremy Severin is a spokesperson
- 42:24for the group, and he and the group, as you may ascertained by
- 42:29the name, is against the runway extension. And they've accumulated and they've been
- 42:32at this for some time, probably I guess since it was first proposed.
- 42:37They have accumulated five thousand or so signatures against this project. And as I
- 42:45said at the beginning, I'm gonna go ahead and say you've not heard the
- 42:47last of this. It's kind of transitioned into more of a terminal issue.
- 42:52But you're gonna hear more about this because one of the negatives to Charleston and
- 43:00the surrounding areas has been the airport. And please don't take that as any
- 43:04sort of an affront to the folks at the airport. It's not there.
- 43:07I mean, we're not talking about in the last year. We're talking about
- 43:09in the last you know, twenty thirty forty years. They do the best
- 43:15they can up there with what they have, and I guess we're we're used
- 43:20to flying out of the airport. We don't really think it's that big a
- 43:22deal. But I can tell you, having picked up people at the airport
- 43:28that flew into Charleston for the first time, it was a little concerning to
- 43:31them. We just don't really pay It's kind of like traveling back roads in
- 43:36my home county of you know, where I'm from. You know, we
- 43:38didn't think anything about it. That was just driving, and it's kind of
- 43:40like that when you fly to the airport up here too. I think we
- 43:44just don't think that much about it, but other people do. And a
- 43:47lot of people have looked at this and said, look, we need to
- 43:50do a lot of changes to the airport, and one of these was going
- 43:54to impact greatly Coonskin part. And I will say this, as much as
- 44:00I love parks and I love the outdoors, if it's going to attract more
- 44:05business here and give us a more modern hub of transportation here, I'm all
- 44:12for it. Put the runway through my house if you have to. I
- 44:15don't care. I'm all about the environment, but I'm more concerned about the
- 44:19commerce and what it could be and what it could lead here. But I
- 44:22will always afford others the opportunity to weigh in on the opposite side. Anyway,
- 44:28you may want to go read the stories and in depth story post by
- 44:30Aaron Parker at wv metronews dot com. The Dave Allen Show and five Any
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- 47:58a tex Texas Virginians can't stand prosperity. They often rail against progress. That's
- 48:04why we are considered backward by outsiders. They have good reason to believe it.
- 48:07As a texture, texture says double check the number of signatures. I
- 48:12think it's eleven thousand, not five thousand on the petition to Save Coonskin Part.
- 48:15I will definitely check on that. And I would think, though,
- 48:19I would say, because I kind of had a little bit of pause on
- 48:21that when I said it, because this project has been the Save Coonskin project
- 48:25has been around for a while, and I would think they probably got more
- 48:29than five thousand signatures, but Textra says it's eleven thousand. Appreciate that and
- 48:32we will check it out. Tex says Dave. The legislature has one billion
- 48:36dollars in raindy day funds that belongs to taxpayers, funds to give back,
- 48:39to give back to the taxpayers as a text all right, So I read
- 48:44this story last week, and if it will give us a break from arguing
- 48:46Biden and Trump for a moment, then I'll take it. Target will not
- 48:51accept checks anymore. This is going to start next week. And I was
- 48:54doing a little research on this. In two thousand and nine, nine out
- 48:59of ten people reported using checks. Now it is about half that. And
- 49:04if you want to break it down by age, this is current numbers.
- 49:07Now one in five people over the age of sixty six. One in five
- 49:13over sixty six write several checks a week, while about half the people under
- 49:19fifty five. Half the people under fifty five don't write a single check all
- 49:24year. So there's some kind of a disparagy of a little bit of a
- 49:30wacky number there between those that are fifty five and under and those that are
- 49:35like sixty six something. Benepen is in that ten year timeframe I have.
- 49:40I got to tell a story. My wife and I a couple of weeks
- 49:43ago were at Kroger and the gentleman in front of us was writing check,
- 49:49and I even remarked to her, I said, I don't know that I've
- 49:52seen someone write a check at Kroger in quite some time. And I'm not
- 49:55so sure that the young girl that was working the register I knew exactly what
- 50:00to do. To be honest with you, you seem to be a little
- 50:02bit confused by the thing because they just they just don't take a whole lot
- 50:06of checks these days. Now, Target isn't the only one that's no longer
- 50:10going to accept check. Aldie already doesn't accept checks. I read. I
- 50:15think it was Whole Foods or several other places that also do not accept checks
- 50:19anymore, because more and more places are not only going checkless, but they're
- 50:23also going cashless. Now. My wife is the primary bill payer in the
- 50:31house, and so I presume, I mean, lights are still on,
- 50:37so I'm presuming the bills are getting paid. But I will say this for
- 50:42me personally, I'm a cash person unless it comes to something business related and
- 50:47I'm using a company card. I personally, I pay with cash about ninety
- 50:53nine percent of the time. And I mean that's unless I just don't have
- 51:00any cash, which I don't rarely ever not have cash because I like having
- 51:04cash. But everybody's different. But going back to the retail establishments, Kroger,
- 51:10Walmart, Macy's, and Cole's all still accept checks, but I would
- 51:16probably say that at some point soon those will probably go away as well.
- 51:22And just just my opinion. I don't I'm not friends with anybody on the
- 51:25board there, just kind of my opinion. And I would also say that
- 51:30many people that are under the age of thirty probably have never written a check.
- 51:40I don't have a lot of young people in my circles because well because
- 51:44I'm old. But I'm I'm the dinosaur that still pays cash and we'll do
- 51:52it as long as I can. But you may want to if you are
- 51:57a check writer, you may want to look into that because more and our
- 52:00places are going to get away from accepting checks, and eventually, my opinion
- 52:02is they're probably going to get away from accepting cash as well. The ballpark
- 52:07here has already done that. They made that, they did that what a
- 52:10year ago or so ago quick texts. Pat Morrissey will probably sue Target over
- 52:15not accepting checks, so we can get some points with this over sixty voter
- 52:19base. That's a texture, all right. We gotta go. Thank you
- 52:22to Senadary tar for topic by the show today and also for City Council and
- 52:25for more than twenty Chad Robinson, Thank you so much, Antoine on this
- 52:30was my producer today. Thank you, kid did a great great joshul have
- 52:32asked Antoine if he probably has no idea what a check even is? Right,
- 52:36he's checking this outter the glass, save me all right? All right,
- 52:38we gotta go. Huffey's coming up with a talk lot at ten tho six