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- 0:03Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome to another edition of Community DC.
- 0:06Speaker 1: I'm your host Dennis Glasgow. This morning, we welcome back
- 0:09Speaker 1: to the program Jenny Atwood. She is the director of
- 0:12Speaker 1: Advocacy and Development for the Chris Atwood Foundation, supporting those
- 0:16Speaker 1: in recovery dealing with substance use disorder and their families
- 0:20Speaker 1: in Northern Virginia. We'll talk more in detail about what
- 0:23Speaker 1: the foundation is, what it offers, how you can help
- 0:25Speaker 1: with donations and volunteering, and much much more, plus a
- 0:29Speaker 1: big gala that's coming up in Vienna, Virginia on October fifteenth,
- 0:32Speaker 1: and of course hearing about the start and the origin
- 0:35Speaker 1: story of the foundation with Chris's story along with the families.
- 0:39Speaker 1: Here's my conversation with Jenny. I hope you enjoyed as
- 0:41Speaker 1: much as I did.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Good morning, Jenny, Good morning Dennis.
- 0:45Speaker 1: It's great to have you back on the program to
- 0:48Speaker 1: talk about the Chris Atwood Foundation. Of course, you have
- 0:50Speaker 1: a big gala coming up Heroes for Hope October fifteenth
- 0:53Speaker 1: in Vienna, Virginia. We will talk a lot about that
- 0:56Speaker 1: because I know that's right around the corner. But what
- 0:58Speaker 1: I would like to do, Jenny, even though there's a
- 1:00Speaker 1: lot of listeners in community DC, they kind of know
- 1:02Speaker 1: what you and the Chris Outwood Foundation do. I'd love
- 1:05Speaker 1: for you to tell the story because I know it's
- 1:07Speaker 1: close to home on how it started. It means a lot.
- 1:09Speaker 1: You've been doing this for years now, tell us about
- 1:12Speaker 1: your story because I know it's real special.
- 1:14Speaker 3: I'm now a director of development and advocacy. Advocacy is
- 1:18Speaker 3: my biggest passions. I'm hoping to be able to get
- 1:20Speaker 3: more involved in, you know, federal legislative advocacy as well,
- 1:26Speaker 3: you know, creating a system, improving the system that we
- 1:30Speaker 3: have for people and families with substance use disorder because
- 1:34Speaker 3: right now, the system is kind of set up for
- 1:36Speaker 3: a lot of people to fail and then punishes them
- 1:39Speaker 3: when they do. And we did have that experience with
- 1:42Speaker 3: my brother who he was fifteen when he got addicted
- 1:46Speaker 3: to heroin and then he passed away at the age
- 1:50Speaker 3: of twenty one after a long up and down battle,
- 1:53Speaker 3: you know, in and out of treatment. He wanted so
- 1:56Speaker 3: badly to you know, get his life back on track.
- 2:00Speaker 3: But you know, when you opioids are extremely powerful no
- 2:05Speaker 3: matter what age you are. But when you're fifteen and
- 2:07Speaker 3: you your brain becomes dependent on them.
- 2:10Speaker 2: It's it's really hard to shake.
- 2:12Speaker 3: And unfortunately, in twenty thirteen, I was at work, and
- 2:20Speaker 3: you know, my brother had been kind of doing okay,
- 2:23Speaker 3: but in a weird place, and i'd seen him that morning.
- 2:27Speaker 3: We lived together at the time, and there was I
- 2:30Speaker 3: had a little bit of concern about him, but I
- 2:32Speaker 3: always had concern about him, you know.
- 2:33Speaker 2: So I was like, all right, I got to get
- 2:35Speaker 2: to work, said goodbye.
- 2:36Speaker 3: Was sitting at my office or sitting at my desk
- 2:39Speaker 3: and just about to answer some emails, and I got
- 2:42Speaker 3: kicked by this feeling of dread like I've never felt before,
- 2:46Speaker 3: just out of nowhere, and I knew that something terrible
- 2:50Speaker 3: had happened. And I drove straight home and I found
- 2:55Speaker 3: him unresponsive in his room. And unfortunately, twenty thirteen, access
- 3:01Speaker 3: to narcand was not what it is now. It was
- 3:04Speaker 3: really hard to get You had to have a prescription
- 3:07Speaker 3: and go to the pharmacy, and I didn't have it,
- 3:09Speaker 3: and so I wasn't able to revive him, and he
- 3:13Speaker 3: ended up passing away in the hospital.
- 3:16Speaker 2: The next day.
- 3:16Speaker 3: And you know, we sat around the kitchen table just
- 3:20Speaker 3: a few days after his death, going like, what just happened?
- 3:25Speaker 3: How could we have gotten here? And we all were
- 3:29Speaker 3: just struck by this realization that if we if this
- 3:32Speaker 3: could happen to us, it could happen to anybody, And
- 3:36Speaker 3: if we don't do something to try to fill these
- 3:39Speaker 3: gaps in care, then we're just going to watch our
- 3:41Speaker 3: friends and neighbors and other family members go down the
- 3:44Speaker 3: same path. And so we decided to start the Chrisowd Foundation,
- 3:48Speaker 3: and our goal is to is to fill those gaps
- 3:50Speaker 3: in care and to navigate people through this complicated system
- 3:55Speaker 3: of getting help for substance use disorder and mental health issues.
- 4:00Speaker 2: And that's what we do.
- 4:01Speaker 1: Jenny, if you don't mind me asking, because I know
- 4:03Speaker 1: you've talked about this before of your personal experience, you know,
- 4:06Speaker 1: because I think it's one thing to have a horrific
- 4:09Speaker 1: thing happen like your brother passing the way he did
- 4:12Speaker 1: and what he was up against, and the family too,
- 4:14Speaker 1: because families are involved in this, since our friends and
- 4:16Speaker 1: co workers when it comes to substance abuse, when it
- 4:18Speaker 1: gets to the level it did for Chris. But I'd
- 4:21Speaker 1: love for you to share about what that's like because
- 4:23Speaker 1: I think most people when it comes to a disease
- 4:26Speaker 1: or something like happening with your family and Chris, it's
- 4:28Speaker 1: never going to happen to me, and then it does,
- 4:31Speaker 1: and then it's awe and shock, isn't it? And then
- 4:33Speaker 1: what you do afterwards? In your family responded incredibly by
- 4:38Speaker 1: coming up with the foundation. But what's it like to
- 4:40Speaker 1: happen in the family like it did with you guys?
- 4:44Speaker 3: Well, I, you know, dealing with any kind of chronic,
- 4:48Speaker 3: life threatening disease and your family is tough. But I
- 4:51Speaker 3: always say that dealing with addiction is its own special
- 4:57Speaker 3: kind of hell. As a family member, it is just
- 4:59Speaker 3: so incredibly difficult because not only are you dealing with
- 5:04Speaker 3: this disease, and that's what it is, it's a disease.
- 5:06Speaker 3: It's a horrific disease that can destroy lives, and but
- 5:12Speaker 3: also you're dealing with this huge stigma, and there's stigma
- 5:15Speaker 3: against your loved one, but there's also stigma against the families.
- 5:20Speaker 3: Like my mom when she was, you know, sharing with
- 5:25Speaker 3: one of her friends about what was going on with Christopher.
- 5:29Speaker 3: You know, something dramatic had happened. I don't remember the details,
- 5:31Speaker 3: but she was kind of sharing with her friend and
- 5:34Speaker 3: her friend goes, what why is he like this, what
- 5:37Speaker 3: did what did you do wrong? Boy? You know, and
- 5:41Speaker 3: that's kind of you know, that was her. Usually you
- 5:44Speaker 3: don't hear that said to your face. But that's what
- 5:47Speaker 3: a lot of people think, is that you know that
- 5:50Speaker 3: this is bad people doing bad things, or you know,
- 5:53Speaker 3: bad families doing something wrong. You know it's the parent's fault,
- 5:57Speaker 3: and there's all this pressure people and who have a
- 6:01Speaker 3: loved one often here you know what I think is
- 6:04Speaker 3: well meaning advice but also very misguided that you know,
- 6:08Speaker 3: you have to let them hit rock bottom, you have
- 6:10Speaker 3: to practice tough love, you've got to kick them out,
- 6:12Speaker 3: throw them in jail, all these things. And it's said
- 6:16Speaker 3: as if that's the prescription for fixing the person. You
- 6:20Speaker 3: do these things, they're going to hit rock bottom, they're
- 6:22Speaker 3: going to see the light, and they're going to turn
- 6:23Speaker 3: around and make different choices and then it'll all be okay.
- 6:26Speaker 3: But that's not how addiction works, right, Because one of
- 6:29Speaker 3: the key components of addiction is continued use despite negative consequences. So,
- 6:34Speaker 3: whether it's the justice system or families or whoever, throwing
- 6:38Speaker 3: more negative consequences at the person doesn't make them use less.
- 6:42Speaker 3: If anything, it makes them use more. Because their life
- 6:45Speaker 3: that was already so difficult for them to cope with
- 6:47Speaker 3: if they had to turn to drugs is now even harder.
- 6:50Speaker 3: So it's just sometimes it feels like, you know, just
- 6:52Speaker 3: an uphill battle.
- 6:53Speaker 2: But we do know.
- 6:56Speaker 3: I don't want to paint to morose of a picture
- 6:59Speaker 3: because actually there's a lot of hope. Seventy five percent
- 7:02Speaker 3: of people with substance use disorders find recovery, So recovery
- 7:07Speaker 3: isn't just possible, it's probable. There's a lot that families
- 7:12Speaker 3: can do. Families are told that they're totally powerless, and
- 7:14Speaker 3: it's true that we didn't cause our loved ones addiction.
- 7:17Speaker 3: We can't cure it, but we can contribute positively to
- 7:22Speaker 3: their healing. And there is a lot of empowerment and
- 7:25Speaker 3: education that families can have, and that's one of our
- 7:29Speaker 3: programs actually, is a family education and support program that
- 7:33Speaker 3: helps families to learn about what addiction is and isn't
- 7:36Speaker 3: and what their role is in this process.
- 7:40Speaker 1: You know, I love that you do that because I've
- 7:42Speaker 1: talked to enough nonprofits that back in the old days,
- 7:44Speaker 1: when there weren't people to relate to that had either
- 7:47Speaker 1: the same disease or the same issue that happened with
- 7:49Speaker 1: a singularly or a family, including my story too. I've
- 7:53Speaker 1: told you and many people and my listeners that when
- 7:55Speaker 1: I had ra and rumatatiarthritis back in eighty seven, there's
- 7:58Speaker 1: no internet, no social media education, I thought I was
- 8:01Speaker 1: the only person on the planet that had it. So
- 8:03Speaker 1: it's very isolating. And what I love, Jenny, that you
- 8:06Speaker 1: do with your family and the Chris Owood Foundation and
- 8:09Speaker 1: what you're doing to advocate, is that you're having families
- 8:12Speaker 1: come together saying, hey, listen, we went through almost the
- 8:15Speaker 1: same thing. We can talk about it together. And I
- 8:17Speaker 1: love that you offer that up because talking and relating
- 8:20Speaker 1: human condition, right, it's a really big deal.
- 8:23Speaker 3: Oh yeah, It's impossible to overstate the impact of lived experience.
- 8:27Speaker 3: That's the core of everything that we do at the
- 8:30Speaker 3: Chris Outwood Foundation is it's lived experience. All of our
- 8:34Speaker 3: staff are in recovery from substance use disorder or mental health,
- 8:39Speaker 3: and we've got a few people who are our family
- 8:41Speaker 3: members of somebody and.
- 8:44Speaker 2: We've been there. We get it.
- 8:45Speaker 3: And so like this huge stigma that people face when
- 8:50Speaker 3: reaching out and asking for help is so much less
- 8:53Speaker 3: when you're coming to somebody who you know gets it
- 8:56Speaker 3: because you know they're not going to judge you, and
- 8:58Speaker 3: that brings down the walls, makes people so much more
- 9:01Speaker 3: likely to be open to treatment and support and education.
- 9:07Speaker 3: And yeah, it really is a game changer, both for
- 9:09Speaker 3: the individual and for the families.
- 9:11Speaker 1: You know, always every time I talk to a person
- 9:14Speaker 1: starts a nonprofit or a profit, they come up with
- 9:17Speaker 1: the idea and they have and they execute it and
- 9:20Speaker 1: then it turns into something either better or very different.
- 9:23Speaker 1: When you started the Atwood Foundation for Chris, as it
- 9:26Speaker 1: started out, what did you think you wanted it to be?
- 9:29Speaker 1: And then I want to talk about what it is today.
- 9:32Speaker 3: So the very very first idea that we had was
- 9:35Speaker 3: to help people get access to treatment, and we were
- 9:39Speaker 3: going to provide treatment scholarships. And we pretty quickly veered
- 9:43Speaker 3: away from that just because of how expensive treatment is
- 9:47Speaker 3: when you're paying out of pocket, and you know, we realized, well,
- 9:52Speaker 3: we could help I don't know, a.
- 9:55Speaker 2: Dozen people a year.
- 9:56Speaker 3: We didn't know what our fundraising potential was going to
- 9:58Speaker 3: be at the time, but we could help like a
- 10:00Speaker 3: dozen people a year with this, or you know, if
- 10:02Speaker 3: we pick some other gaps to fill, we can help
- 10:05Speaker 3: a whole lot more people, and luckily insurance has gotten
- 10:09Speaker 3: a little bit better about paying for treatment, but it's
- 10:11Speaker 3: still that that whole system still needs so so much work,
- 10:17Speaker 3: you know, because people can get into treatment and have
- 10:20Speaker 3: it covered by insurance now, but insurance is still only
- 10:22Speaker 3: covering thirty days. Maybe some insurances only want to cover
- 10:26Speaker 3: two weeks, and that's nothing.
- 10:29Speaker 2: You know.
- 10:30Speaker 3: People are just barely getting their their the drug out
- 10:34Speaker 3: of their system at that point, you know.
- 10:37Speaker 2: And so we we eventually went in a different direction.
- 10:43Speaker 3: And the direction that we went in first was access
- 10:46Speaker 3: to narcan because that was my experience, you know, not
- 10:49Speaker 3: having it and realizing, well, this is a huge gap
- 10:51Speaker 3: because all of these deaths from opioids are preventable. Narcan
- 10:56Speaker 3: will reverse an overdose every time you get it there
- 11:00Speaker 3: in time, and you use enough narcan, it works every time.
- 11:04Speaker 3: So just the idea that this safe medication, it's even
- 11:08Speaker 3: safer than tile and all, you know, that we had
- 11:11Speaker 3: no access to it was ridiculous, I mean, and we
- 11:14Speaker 3: had sent my brother to some of the best treatment
- 11:15Speaker 3: centers in the country and at that point, like none
- 11:19Speaker 3: of them were providing access to narcan either, and that
- 11:22Speaker 3: I think really just shows how far addiction treatment and
- 11:27Speaker 3: the field has to come to catch up with other diseases,
- 11:30Speaker 3: because can you imagine, you know, you send your kid
- 11:32Speaker 3: with a life threatening allergy to one of the best
- 11:35Speaker 3: allergy clinics in the world and they come back without
- 11:37Speaker 3: an EpiPen. I mean, that just would never happen, right,
- 11:39Speaker 3: that would be probably malpractice.
- 11:43Speaker 2: And so yeah, again it's that stigma. So we.
- 11:48Speaker 3: Changed some laws in Virginia to allow community dispensing of narcan,
- 11:52Speaker 3: and then we started dispensing narcan out, you know, in
- 11:56Speaker 3: the field, rather than trying to get people to go
- 11:58Speaker 3: to the pharmacy. And we've now given out over one
- 12:01Speaker 3: hundred and thirty four thousand doses of free miloc zone
- 12:04Speaker 3: and we've received reports of over twenty eight hundred lives
- 12:06Speaker 3: that have been saved with it.
- 12:07Speaker 1: That's extraordinary. And you know, one of the things I
- 12:10Speaker 1: was thinking as you were talking about and what you
- 12:12Speaker 1: do specifically on a daily basis with advocating, we always
- 12:15Speaker 1: find out that when it comes to the laws or
- 12:17Speaker 1: the process is how appalling the system is. Right now
- 12:20Speaker 1: and I can just hear it in your voice as
- 12:22Speaker 1: you talk to me about what you're up against daily
- 12:24Speaker 1: as you advocate, I'd love for you to talk about this,
- 12:26Speaker 1: about what you're doing now, finding out what's going on,
- 12:30Speaker 1: how you can hopefully make the system better what you
- 12:32Speaker 1: and your team have. But where are you right now
- 12:34Speaker 1: with advocation?
- 12:37Speaker 3: Well, I mean, our most recent advocacy work was in
- 12:39Speaker 3: opening a recovery community center in Fairfact City. We faced
- 12:43Speaker 3: a lot of exclusionary zoning laws that did not support
- 12:50Speaker 3: work like ours coming into the community, and there was
- 12:52Speaker 3: some nimbi's, you know, some not in my backyard people
- 12:55Speaker 3: who said, oh.
- 12:56Speaker 2: Well, you know, helping people is great, but not here.
- 12:58Speaker 2: We don't want that.
- 12:59Speaker 3: Here, And so we had to do a lot of
- 13:00Speaker 3: advocacy around this isn't those people, This is you. This
- 13:04Speaker 3: is your community. This is your neighbors, your children, your coworkers.
- 13:09Speaker 3: You know, addiction impacts. Seventeen percent of Americans have had
- 13:14Speaker 3: a substance use disorder. Right, that's a big chunk of
- 13:18Speaker 3: our community and helping them makes our whole community better
- 13:23Speaker 3: in so many different ways, and.
- 13:25Speaker 2: So we were ultimately successful.
- 13:27Speaker 3: We now have had our recovery community center up and
- 13:30Speaker 3: running for a couple of years now, and some other
- 13:34Speaker 3: areas that we've done work is in promoting harm reduction,
- 13:37Speaker 3: which is a really misunderstood philosophy and set of tools.
- 13:43Speaker 3: You know, people think it's enabling drug use, when in
- 13:47Speaker 3: fact it's actually enabling recovery because people who are enrolled
- 13:50Speaker 3: in a harm reduction program are five times more likely
- 13:53Speaker 3: to get into treatment than folks who are actively using
- 13:57Speaker 3: drugs who are not in a harm.
- 13:58Speaker 1: Reduction program can do ref You don't mind me interrupting,
- 14:01Speaker 1: because I want to know why that is? Why why
- 14:03Speaker 1: is there such a misnormal Why is there misinformation about that, specifically.
- 14:08Speaker 2: About harm reduction.
- 14:09Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well, I mean because one of the tools
- 14:12Speaker 3: of harm reduction is providing sterile use supplies like needles
- 14:16Speaker 3: and so on its face, that's really like counterintuitive to
- 14:20Speaker 3: a lot of people. Okay, you want somebody to stop using,
- 14:22Speaker 3: so give them needles.
- 14:23Speaker 2: What That makes no sense, right?
- 14:26Speaker 3: But the truth is is that because of the power
- 14:29Speaker 3: of addiction and the way that it just hijacks people's brains,
- 14:32Speaker 3: they are going to find a way to use no
- 14:34Speaker 3: matter what. Once they're addicted, their brain is literally telling
- 14:37Speaker 3: them they need this drug the same way that they
- 14:39Speaker 3: need food and.
- 14:40Speaker 2: Water and oxygen.
- 14:41Speaker 3: It is a requirement, and so they will use a
- 14:44Speaker 3: dirty needle, they will share, they will do anything, and
- 14:48Speaker 3: so providing a syringe is not helping them do it.
- 14:51Speaker 3: It's just helping them not to overdose or to get
- 14:55Speaker 3: a you know, a disease like HIV or hepatitis C.
- 15:00Speaker 3: And what that means is that we can keep people
- 15:03Speaker 3: healthier and keep them alive because dead people don't recover.
- 15:07Speaker 3: So that's a key component. We got to keep people
- 15:09Speaker 3: alive first and foremost. And then the message of harm
- 15:12Speaker 3: reduction is so important. It's that we care about you,
- 15:17Speaker 3: and you matter, Your life matters, even while you are
- 15:21Speaker 3: using drugs. Right you are valuable enough that we care
- 15:24Speaker 3: more about you than we care about what you put
- 15:26Speaker 3: in your body. And that powerful message of love and compassion,
- 15:31Speaker 3: and we're going to help you wherever you are. We're
- 15:34Speaker 3: not going to force you to be perfect. We're not
- 15:37Speaker 3: going to force you to quit right now when you're
- 15:39Speaker 3: not ready. Because people don't just make one eighties overnight.
- 15:43Speaker 3: They make small incremental changes, and harm reduction is all
- 15:46Speaker 3: about celebrating those small positive changes, and oftentimes that leads
- 15:52Speaker 3: to abstinence. But when you come in and your requirement
- 15:56Speaker 3: is your life only matters, and We're only going to
- 15:58Speaker 3: help you if you can complete leately quit using all drugs.
- 16:01Speaker 3: People just can't get there, you know. They're like, that's
- 16:04Speaker 3: that's too far, that's too much for them, and they
- 16:07Speaker 3: get left behind and they get diseases and they die. So,
- 16:10Speaker 3: you know, and the other piece of it is just
- 16:13Speaker 3: that that lived experience. So our peers are out on
- 16:16Speaker 3: our harm reduction van. And when I say peers, I
- 16:19Speaker 3: mean people with lived experience. So these are people who've
- 16:22Speaker 3: been in addiction and now they're in recovery, and they're
- 16:24Speaker 3: out in the community on the van providing all kinds
- 16:28Speaker 3: of things. Because harm production is a lot more than
- 16:30Speaker 3: needles too, They're they're providing that and then they're disposing
- 16:34Speaker 3: of the used ones. But they're also providing HIV and
- 16:36Speaker 3: HEPSA testing. They're providing hygiene kits and NARCAN and education
- 16:43Speaker 3: and assistants seeking you know, housing and transportation and nutrition support,
- 16:48Speaker 3: all these different things that people need. And they're developing
- 16:52Speaker 3: trust with these individuals who don't trust easily, and then
- 16:57Speaker 3: that means that when that person does decide, you know what,
- 17:00Speaker 3: I don't want to live this life anymore. I think
- 17:02Speaker 3: I'm ready to make a change, They know exactly who
- 17:05Speaker 3: they can go to. They have that trusting relationship, and
- 17:09Speaker 3: then we can scoop them up, get them into detox,
- 17:11Speaker 3: get them into treatment, and start them on the way
- 17:14Speaker 3: same day.
- 17:15Speaker 2: And that's the power.
- 17:17Speaker 1: Of Harmona And that's a really big deal. So I
- 17:20Speaker 1: want to keep on going on that because I think
- 17:22Speaker 1: we've got everybody's attention. So if there is a coworker,
- 17:25Speaker 1: a family member, or somebody on their own, anybody that
- 17:29Speaker 1: wants to reach out to you, how far does your
- 17:31Speaker 1: net spread you can help somebody, And then what kind
- 17:33Speaker 1: of tiers of levels do you have to help somebody
- 17:36Speaker 1: that might have an addiction problem.
- 17:39Speaker 3: Yeah, so we serve all of Northern Virginia, and we
- 17:42Speaker 3: actually can serve a little bit the whole state with
- 17:45Speaker 3: one of our programs. We have a free Narcan mailing program.
- 17:48Speaker 3: So if you're hearing this and you're not in Northern Virginia,
- 17:50Speaker 3: you can go to our website, THECAF dot org and
- 17:54Speaker 3: go to get help, and there's a place where you
- 17:56Speaker 3: can order Narcan through the mail and just watch a
- 17:59Speaker 3: quick training.
- 18:00Speaker 2: Video and we'll mail it anywhere in the state.
- 18:02Speaker 3: Our other programs are more local to Northern Virginia and
- 18:06Speaker 3: we have I mean we don't we don't look at
- 18:08Speaker 3: them as tears necessarily, but we have services for the
- 18:13Speaker 3: whole spectrum of substance use disorder and mental health. We've
- 18:16Speaker 3: in recent years gotten a lot more into mental health support.
- 18:19Speaker 1: I love I love it. I love that you do
- 18:20Speaker 1: that too, because they're they're kind of interconnecting, right.
- 18:23Speaker 3: Yeah, there's kind of this like false dichotomy that you
- 18:26Speaker 3: have an addiction or you have a mental health problem,
- 18:28Speaker 3: but usually it's both.
- 18:30Speaker 2: They overlap a lot.
- 18:31Speaker 3: Uh, and so yeah, it really depends on the individual
- 18:34Speaker 3: what they need. Every everything that we do is just
- 18:38Speaker 3: completely customized to the person. We have a warm line
- 18:43Speaker 3: that people can call and it's going to be answered
- 18:46Speaker 3: by a peer every time, who you know is non
- 18:49Speaker 3: judgmental and gets it. That number is seven oh three
- 18:53Speaker 3: six five three four two two one, and we'll just
- 18:58Speaker 3: ask you what do you need?
- 18:59Speaker 2: You know?
- 19:00Speaker 3: Sometimes, you know, we we think we may know what
- 19:03Speaker 3: somebody needs, and we don't. Right, It's our philosophy is
- 19:09Speaker 3: and this is part of harm reduction as well, that
- 19:11Speaker 3: we need to respect people and respect their autonomy and
- 19:17Speaker 3: respect that they are the experts on their themselves and
- 19:20Speaker 3: their own stories, and so we just have an interview
- 19:23Speaker 3: process of figuring out like, what is it that's a
- 19:26Speaker 3: challenge in your life and what are your goals. If
- 19:28Speaker 3: we come at you and we say our goal for
- 19:30Speaker 3: you is that you get this job and you you know,
- 19:33Speaker 3: get into abstinence, people don't respond to that. But if
- 19:36Speaker 3: if it's self driven, if it's if it's person centered,
- 19:41Speaker 3: then it's a lot more successful. And so we have
- 19:45Speaker 3: services all the way from you know, support for people
- 19:48Speaker 3: in active use, all the way into long term recovery.
- 19:52Speaker 3: And we are in the jail helping people in the
- 19:54Speaker 3: Fairfax County Jail as well as the Prince William County Jail.
- 19:59Speaker 3: We're out in the community in our narcand van. We
- 20:01Speaker 3: have a housing program. A lot of people getting out
- 20:04Speaker 3: of treatment, getting out of incarceration, they don't have anywhere
- 20:07Speaker 3: substance free to live. So if they go back to
- 20:09Speaker 3: that house they were living in where they were using,
- 20:11Speaker 3: that's a recipe for disaster. So our housing program is
- 20:16Speaker 3: also a big part of what we do.
- 20:18Speaker 1: All right on the NAP bar on the website to
- 20:20Speaker 1: take action. There are two big deals that I want
- 20:22Speaker 1: you to talk about donations and volunteering, and then I
- 20:26Speaker 1: want to talk about funding, but let's talk about donations volunteering.
- 20:29Speaker 1: How do people get involved in that?
- 20:31Speaker 3: Yeah, you can also call the warmline for that and
- 20:34Speaker 3: say that you're interested in helping out, and there's lots
- 20:37Speaker 3: of ways that we can get you plugged in.
- 20:39Speaker 2: We have events.
- 20:40Speaker 3: We have kit packing, so all of the the narcand
- 20:44Speaker 3: kits and the harm reduction kits. There's a lot of
- 20:47Speaker 3: components that go into those, and we always need volunteers
- 20:49Speaker 3: to come and help us put together kits.
- 20:52Speaker 2: And then there's our Gala.
- 20:54Speaker 3: We have two big events every year and our galath
- 20:57Speaker 3: coming up in just two weeks actually exactly today, and
- 21:00Speaker 3: that is a great way to help out by donating
- 21:05Speaker 3: through that, but also to learn more about what we
- 21:08Speaker 3: do and meet our peers. And it's such an inspiring
- 21:12Speaker 3: night of hope.
- 21:13Speaker 2: We call it Heroes for Hope because.
- 21:17Speaker 3: You know, it's we recognize all the loss that we
- 21:20Speaker 3: have experienced as a country, all the thousands and thousands
- 21:24Speaker 3: of people who have lost their lives, but it's mostly
- 21:28Speaker 3: about the hope of recovery and the hope of of
- 21:32Speaker 3: change and lived experience, and so it's a really it's
- 21:34Speaker 3: a really wonderful night. And we invite people to go
- 21:37Speaker 3: to our website, THECAF dot org and a box will
- 21:40Speaker 3: pop up about the gala and you can click on that.
- 21:43Speaker 3: There's also raffles through that and other ways. Yeah, and
- 21:48Speaker 3: then as far as funding, you know, we're funded by
- 21:51Speaker 3: a lot of different things. We're funded by the community,
- 21:53Speaker 3: but a big chunk of our funding is grants. We
- 21:57Speaker 3: have a lot of government grants, which have been challenging
- 22:00Speaker 3: recently because we have experienced some of the federal funding cutbacks.
- 22:06Speaker 3: And so the new Recovery Center that we opened up,
- 22:09Speaker 3: a lot of our rent money for that was from
- 22:12Speaker 3: a federal grant which just got swiped out from underneath
- 22:15Speaker 3: of us, So about two hundred thousand dollars that we lost.
- 22:18Speaker 3: And so the gala is more important than ever this
- 22:21Speaker 3: year because we really need to find other ways to
- 22:26Speaker 3: fund our works and send things in.
- 22:29Speaker 2: The government realm 're a little unstable right now, all.
- 22:31Speaker 1: Right, And one of the things of this program that's
- 22:33Speaker 1: great to Jenny is that I always get a lot
- 22:35Speaker 1: of small medium and business owners to say, hey, that
- 22:38Speaker 1: subject matter actually is part of my family and I'd
- 22:40Speaker 1: love to be part of it. So if there's anybody
- 22:42Speaker 1: listening in the business community and DMV and they want
- 22:44Speaker 1: to reach out to you maybe to partner up with something,
- 22:46Speaker 1: whether it's an event, the Gala or anything else regularly
- 22:50Speaker 1: or even one time, how do they do that with you?
- 22:53Speaker 3: Yeah, they can call the warmline and go online click
- 22:57Speaker 3: on the Gala information. There's a link there for sponsorships,
- 23:00Speaker 3: and we have sponsorships all the way from a thousand
- 23:03Speaker 3: up to ten thousand dollars, so it's pretty affordable for
- 23:06Speaker 3: smaller businesses too, and we welcome support. I mean, like
- 23:10Speaker 3: I said earlier, helping people with substance use disorder helps
- 23:14Speaker 3: the entire community. And I know a lot of business
- 23:16Speaker 3: owners have had trouble with hiring sometimes because you know,
- 23:21Speaker 3: people aren't passing drug tests or things like that. You
- 23:24Speaker 3: know family members that are impacted by their loved ones.
- 23:28Speaker 3: You say, the ripple effects just go on and on.
- 23:30Speaker 3: So having business owners support this is it would be
- 23:36Speaker 3: hugely helpful.
- 23:37Speaker 1: I know you've touched on the Gala, but if somebody
- 23:39Speaker 1: were to get on there and get tickets and want
- 23:41Speaker 1: to be part of the evening, where's it at and
- 23:43Speaker 1: what can they expect that entire evening if they attend.
- 23:47Speaker 3: Yeah, it is October fifteenth at Westwood Country Club in
- 23:51Speaker 3: Vienna and it starts at six and we do awards
- 23:58Speaker 3: for local recovery hero those that have been doing wonderful work.
- 24:02Speaker 3: So we get to celebrate that, we talk about the
- 24:04Speaker 3: work that we do. It's a nice sit down dinner,
- 24:07Speaker 3: we have some fun entertainment. This year we're having a
- 24:10Speaker 3: spoken word performance by a local guy to actually who
- 24:14Speaker 3: are in recovery sharing their experience.
- 24:16Speaker 2: So it's a great night outstanding.
- 24:20Speaker 1: A few things that I want to talk about before
- 24:22Speaker 1: I let you go, and then some final thoughts once
- 24:24Speaker 1: again back to advocating and all that you've done and
- 24:27Speaker 1: all that you've learned, and as we're in present day
- 24:30Speaker 1: with all the challenges, as you look forward to the foundation,
- 24:33Speaker 1: what are you looking forward to talk about maybe passing
- 24:35Speaker 1: and what's on the horizon for you that hopefully is
- 24:39Speaker 1: something special that will happen not on with the foundation,
- 24:41Speaker 1: but in the arena that you're doing everything with.
- 24:47Speaker 3: Well, the first I mean, there's a lot, it's hard
- 24:49Speaker 3: to pick one, but I think the first thing that
- 24:50Speaker 3: comes to mind for me because it's something that's impacted
- 24:53Speaker 3: my family personally is I am looking forward to manifesting
- 25:00Speaker 3: that the hospital systems and the justice system are going
- 25:07Speaker 3: to continue. And they have made improvements, but there's a
- 25:09Speaker 3: lot of them that happened. It's kind of pockets here
- 25:12Speaker 3: and there in how they support people. Because if you're
- 25:16Speaker 3: using for long enough, odds are you're going to end
- 25:20Speaker 3: up either in a hospital or a jail or a morgue.
- 25:23Speaker 3: Two of those places we can intervene and save people
- 25:26Speaker 3: one of them, obviously it's too late. So those two
- 25:30Speaker 3: critical intersections need to be armed to the teeth with
- 25:32Speaker 3: all of the best evidence based resources that we have.
- 25:36Speaker 3: And I'm really proud that in Fairfax County and some
- 25:42Speaker 3: of the other areas of Northern Virginia, we've been able
- 25:45Speaker 3: to partner with law enforcement in a really impactful way
- 25:48Speaker 3: and just transform the way that the jail helps people.
- 25:51Speaker 3: And I say help people because they're not just locking
- 25:54Speaker 3: people up now they're actually helping people. And it's huge
- 25:58Speaker 3: and I want to see that all across the country.
- 26:01Speaker 2: So that's my dream.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Do you have any peers across the country that do
- 26:05Speaker 1: kind of what the Atwood Foundation does and what are
- 26:07Speaker 1: you hearing from other regions? In the country. If you
- 26:09Speaker 1: do have a chance to talk to other people, imagine
- 26:11Speaker 1: they either you run into them, they reach out, You
- 26:12Speaker 1: reach out. What's happening around the rest of the country
- 26:15Speaker 1: right now and kind of what you do.
- 26:18Speaker 2: Well.
- 26:19Speaker 3: Funding is a big concern for everybody right now with
- 26:22Speaker 3: you know, a lot of us are grant funded, and
- 26:24Speaker 3: so we're all kind of feeling the squeeze there. We're
- 26:28Speaker 3: worried about Medicaid losing Medicaid and so many of the
- 26:31Speaker 3: people we serve are on Medicaid and if that gets
- 26:34Speaker 3: taken away, that's going to be really truly catastrophic for
- 26:38Speaker 3: a lot of people. So there's a lot of anxiety
- 26:40Speaker 3: right now. But yes, there are a lot of different
- 26:44Speaker 3: peer organizations around the country and the number is growing
- 26:47Speaker 3: because the evidence is showing just how impactful lived experience is.
- 26:53Speaker 3: And we have the opioid settlement money that is starting
- 26:56Speaker 3: to come through, which you know, it's not going to
- 26:58Speaker 3: solve the whole problem, but it is it is something
- 27:02Speaker 3: that is you know, starting to have an effect. And
- 27:06Speaker 3: one thing that I also want to advocate for, since
- 27:09Speaker 3: you asked earlier, is that that those settlement dollars make
- 27:12Speaker 3: it to organizations like the Chrisoud Foundation, because right now,
- 27:15Speaker 3: only the parties of the lawsuit, which is the state
- 27:18Speaker 3: and local governments, can receive the funding, and not all
- 27:21Speaker 3: of them are partnering with organizations like ours. But when
- 27:25Speaker 3: public and private, you know, nonprofits partner together, it's way
- 27:31Speaker 3: better than either of us trying to do it alone.
- 27:33Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense, So okay, well listen, we only
- 27:36Speaker 1: have a few minutes left. I just want to get
- 27:37Speaker 1: some final thoughts from you. We'll also talk about the
- 27:40Speaker 1: gala one more time. Give the website and the phone number,
- 27:44Speaker 1: and let's kind of wrap it up, so the floor
- 27:46Speaker 1: is yours, Jenny.
- 27:49Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I think that there are many people who
- 27:52Speaker 3: are listening to this right now who have been impacted
- 27:54Speaker 3: by addiction and mental health in some way, and I
- 27:58Speaker 3: just want to empower you to do something big or
- 28:01Speaker 3: small to make a difference in the community and for
- 28:04Speaker 3: your loved ones. And you know, you can call our
- 28:08Speaker 3: warmline at seven oh three six five three four two
- 28:11Speaker 3: two one to seek support for yourself or for a loved.
- 28:15Speaker 2: One, or to offer to volunteer.
- 28:17Speaker 3: You can go on our website, THECAF dot org to
- 28:20Speaker 3: make a donation, buy a ticket to the gala or
- 28:23Speaker 3: a sponsorship and truly make a.
- 28:26Speaker 1: Difference outstanding, And then it looks like the recording as
- 28:31Speaker 1: we play this on the Sunday morning on all our
- 28:33Speaker 1: Iart stations. It is just around the corner. In fact,
- 28:37Speaker 1: it's about a week and a half away from the gallas.
- 28:39Speaker 1: So I know that you don't want people to wait
- 28:40Speaker 1: till the last second to get tickets on the website.
- 28:42Speaker 1: Let's give the website just one more time. Remind them
- 28:45Speaker 1: about the time and the location, just so that we
- 28:47Speaker 1: can get that on everybody's radar.
- 28:49Speaker 3: Yes, October fifteenth in Vienna, Virginia at Westwood Country Club.
- 28:54Speaker 3: Tickets are at the CAF dot org outstanding. Well, I
- 29:00Speaker 3: do think tickets will sell out this year, so I
- 29:01Speaker 3: would say.
- 29:02Speaker 2: If you get them now, yeah, it's a good problem
- 29:04Speaker 2: to have.
- 29:05Speaker 1: So yeah, don't wait till the end. Is the message
- 29:07Speaker 1: from Jenny. It's great to see you and great to
- 29:09Speaker 1: talk to you, and please give my best to your
- 29:11Speaker 1: family and everybody at the foundation. You do such great
- 29:15Speaker 1: work and you know I always tell you this, Jenny.
- 29:17Speaker 1: And while what happened to your family and losing your
- 29:21Speaker 1: brother hasn't happened to me, but We've all had enough
- 29:24Speaker 1: tragedy in our life for for for a lifetime. I'm
- 29:27Speaker 1: just in awe about what you took out of losing
- 29:30Speaker 1: a family member with Chris, your brother, and what you've
- 29:33Speaker 1: turned it into. And it's just remarkable, and you continue
- 29:37Speaker 1: to get bigger and better all the time, and it's
- 29:39Speaker 1: just really cool what you're doing. So continue success. Thank
- 29:42Speaker 1: you for your valuable time on Community DC and we'll
- 29:44Speaker 1: check it again.
- 29:45Speaker 3: Okay, Guilds and make the world and better.
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