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- 0:01Boom, does narcissism narcissism run in families?
- 0:08That's what we're talking about today.
- 0:09Y'all Of course, if you're new here, I'm Lee Hammock diagnosed
- 0:12narcissist myself here to get here to give you the inside look
- 0:15at the mind in the workings of a narcissist.
- 0:19So first of all, I know a lot of people, I already got comments
- 0:22in here hopping there say yes, it does run in the family.
- 0:25I say absolutely yes, that it does run in families.
- 0:29Well, look, I was, I've been doing a little research on this
- 0:33type of thing right here. Yeah, I've done a little
- 0:35research, I've done a little research.
- 0:37And there are some researchers that say that there could be a
- 0:42genetic component attached to personality disorders, right.
- 0:45Narcissism, schizophrenia, I don't think schizophrenia,
- 0:48personality disorder, not sure, but narcissism, borderline, all
- 0:52that type of stuff. They said that there is a a they
- 0:56could be a genetic component. Notice I said could be right Now
- 1:03are there other narcissists in my family?
- 1:05I would think there are some narcissistic people in my
- 1:09family. I know, but most people would
- 1:10think my dad is a narcissist. But I'm not 100% certain if he's
- 1:13a narcissist, right? I know he's a he was a
- 1:15traumatized child that retreated within himself and just never
- 1:19came out of that retreatment, right?
- 1:20He never, he never unretreated. He never gave yourself the
- 1:24opportunity to be better or to heal or whatnot.
- 1:27So he's all, he's still has a lot of work to do on himself,
- 1:32but he definitely contributed to pass to passing it down to where
- 1:37I'm at, right? He definitely contributed to
- 1:39where I'm at because it's just emotional neglect, the emotional
- 1:44neglect that this person had for me and my brothers and whatnot,
- 1:47right? It definitely led to contributed
- 1:52to narcissistic personality disorder being something that I
- 1:55am diagnosed with. But there are some people who do
- 1:59have these narcissistic family systems.
- 2:01Let's keep it hot and ready like a Little Caesar's pizza.
- 2:04There are some people, there are some families out there that
- 2:06damn near every person in that family is a narcissist or highly
- 2:10narcissistic or psychopathic, right?
- 2:12Family of psychopaths. And it's crazy.
- 2:16The one person that comes out that isn't a psychopath is the
- 2:19black sheep. The one person that comes out
- 2:21that isn't a narcissist turns out, turns around and becomes
- 2:25the black sheep of that family because they are not a
- 2:27psychopath. Well, they're not a narcissist,
- 2:29so they're not a sociopath, right?
- 2:30You're like, you got a healthy mind, boy.
- 2:35I think you should get the hell out of this family.
- 2:37Your mind is way too healthy for us now.
- 2:42How silly does that sound right there, y'all?
- 2:44I know it sounds silly as hell, but that's that mentality right
- 2:47there. It it really is like if you
- 2:50somebody say that's me, I'm the black sheep and bad.
- 2:53But there's sometimes, look, sometimes you end up being the
- 2:56black sheep of that family system and because you don't
- 2:59have a personality disorder or you're not toxic and abusive,
- 3:02like this type of stuff happens. I, I feel like it could
- 3:05absolutely have a genetic component where it could
- 3:08absolutely run in certain families.
- 3:11You know, although my father is, might not be a diagnosed
- 3:14narcissist, he's definitely got some childhood trauma that, that
- 3:17manifested into his adult life that made him who he is today.
- 3:20Right? But I think just based on
- 3:22something, something my, my own personal therapist told me, she
- 3:25thinks that she just thought that like, you know, she
- 3:28postulated that my grandfather who unalived himself at 27 years
- 3:33old on a Monday morning, he unalived himself with three kids
- 3:38in the house at 5:30 in the morning on a Monday.
- 3:41That he might have had undiagnosed schizophrenia
- 3:45because he just woke up 1 morning literally, and just went
- 3:47in there in the bathroom and took a, took a Pew Pew and said
- 3:50goodbye to everybody. And I'm pretty sure my dad was
- 3:53in the house. My dad, my, my dad, my uncle, my
- 3:55aunt maybe found him, my grandma found him.
- 3:57And that led to them being traumatized at a very young age,
- 4:01you know, in the 70s or it happened in the early 70s.
- 4:05There's no therapy for a little like a little black boy in the
- 4:0870s. Like, what are you gonna do?
- 4:09You know, go to school. Your, your, your father takes
- 4:11his own, takes his life on a Monday.
- 4:14You're back in school probably on that Wednesday or Thursday.
- 4:16Time to get back to school, son, you know, therapy, go to school.
- 4:20You know what I'm saying? You don't know how to.
- 4:22So they didn't, he didn't have the opportunity to process that
- 4:24or deal with it. So me learning that in my
- 4:27adulthood help me forgive him for being the emotionally
- 4:30neglectful person that he was, right.
- 4:32I got the chance. I, I guess actually got the
- 4:34opportunity to understand that like he is the way that he is
- 4:38because of what happened to him in childhood.
- 4:39Now, could he have worked on it nowadays?
- 4:42Yeah. But I think he's about to be 60
- 4:43years old. He went to therapy at 60.
- 4:46You see what I'm saying? He he's, I mean, I'm not saying
- 4:48it's a, I'm not saying it's impossible to go to therapy at
- 4:5060, but I would say that it's important.
- 4:53I mean, I would suggest that he goes, you know what I mean?
- 4:55But that's part of my story right there.
- 4:58So does it run in my family? Personality disorders or some
- 5:01mental health stuff? Absolutely runs in my family.
- 5:03But narcissistic personality disorder, I don't think runs in
- 5:06the family, right. If it did run in my family,
- 5:09y'all, y'all hear that quote? It ran in my family until it ran
- 5:12into me. Boom, That's how I go.
- 5:15It ran in my family until it ran into me because I went to
- 5:18therapy and kind of put a stop to it.
- 5:20I'm trying to be a better father for my children.
- 5:22Right. A better example for my children
- 5:27and whatnot. Sure.
- 5:28What's going on? Sure.
- 5:29How you doing, girl? I had, I am damaged because my
- 5:35mom grew up in a broken home. I cut ties with that.
- 5:37Yeah, sometimes that's sometimes that's what ends up happening to
- 5:39happen right there, y'all. Sometimes you end up happening
- 5:41to set yourself free, you know, from your family dynamic.
- 5:44And it. It can be very tough, very
- 5:46scary. Boo, very scary space to be in.
- 5:49You know it absolutely can. So sometimes it it becomes a
- 5:53requirement to be able to to set yourself free sometimes because
- 5:57if you stay around it right, you will inevitably develop more of
- 6:02it. You inevitably become more of
- 6:04that you most people don't want to become more of that right.
- 6:07You don't want to be that you don't want to be that type of
- 6:08person. You don't want to be that person
- 6:10that gets just gets drained and hurt and all that other stuff.
- 6:13You don't want that type of stuff to happen.
- 6:15So if you feel like, let's just say you married a narcissist or
- 6:19you're with one or you have kids with one or whatever, right?
- 6:21Let's say you have kids or children with a narcissist and
- 6:24you and you come to this video, you just like, well, it doesn't
- 6:26run into the family. I'm afraid for my kids to be
- 6:28narcissist. That that means it's time to
- 6:32lock in, right? It's absolutely time to lock in
- 6:37to what's actually going on. It's time to really 100% lock in
- 6:42like to loving your kids, to showering them with of not not
- 6:45showering them with infection, but shout making sure they have
- 6:48a healthy environment mental health wise to flourish in.
- 6:52Because if they're in an environment, like if they're in
- 6:54an environment was completely toxic, what do you think is
- 6:56going to happen to them? Yeah, Could they develop a
- 6:58shield and become an impact? Yeah, the possibility exists,
- 7:01but that's them doing it. That's your kids carrying that
- 7:03load. That's your kids carrying that
- 7:05burden right there, right? That's your kids carrying that
- 7:08burden, right? They popped up on you, Sherry.
- 7:09Oh, Lord, yeah. He's going to keep doing that
- 7:12because you know, he knows who you are.
- 7:13He's definitely going to pop up on you.
- 7:14And I guess he thinks it's popping up on you.
- 7:16If he can, he'll just wear you down and get what he wants.
- 7:18And then this cycle continues until it it doesn't, right?
- 7:24That's the the process, right? And it sucks to be even going
- 7:26through that. I'm a mess and 1/2 right now.
- 7:31Time to start working. It's time to start working.
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- 8:06What the hell? Just about what?
- 8:08Sherry? What the hell?
- 8:14The messages came across my screen.
- 8:15Sherry, What the? Yeah, it might be time for you
- 8:18to call the police. Girl, the shit like that is
- 8:20happening. Hell no.
- 8:24It's you. Blessings on your healing
- 8:25journey. I'm sorry, just the message.
- 8:26I just, the messages came across my computer just shocked me.
- 8:30Yeah, you might want to call the police because that shit is
- 8:32getting dangerous. More dangerous.
- 8:34That's just literally just shocked me.
- 8:39All right, I left and trying to heal.
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- 9:33code mothers or fathers, right. I used to it used to just be
- 9:39mothers, but I was like the the the fellas need a code too, but
- 9:43it either code works. Either code works.
- 9:46But if you feel like narcissism is running in your family or
- 9:49running in your partner's family that you're dealing with that
- 9:51you're trying to raise kids with, I'm telling you, get your
- 9:54kids in the into therapy if possible.
- 9:56There's people that I know that get their kids in the play
- 9:58therapy that just give them a space to vent and be have a
- 10:01healthy place to be themselves because that's so important.
- 10:05You want to create a nurturing environment for your children, a
- 10:07safe place. If you doing 5050 custody or
- 10:10whatever the case may be, your home needs to be like a
- 10:14decompression zone like you need, they need to feel safe in
- 10:17your house to vent, to be themselves and to not walk on
- 10:20egg shells, right? If you feel like narcissism is
- 10:23running in your, your, your ex's family or whatever the case may
- 10:26be, you have to be that you, you're, it's not, it's not fair,
- 10:29but you have to carry the emotional labor.
- 10:31You have to carry the load of the emotional labor right there.
- 10:34It just that's what ends up happening.
- 10:36So it's so many people that go through this and they're just
- 10:38dealing with this type of stuff right here.
- 10:41Well, the narcissists say they want to come see you but keep
- 10:43texting you doing an argument and say you aren't talking in
- 10:46text or they're not coming because that.
- 10:48Now, Carrie, if if you're already talking to me, I don't
- 10:51have to come see you because sometimes coming to see you just
- 10:54means I want to make sure I still have access to you.
- 10:57But the fact that you're talking to me already shows me this.
- 10:59I don't need to come see you now.
- 11:01I can just string you alone. I know where you are.
- 11:03I know you're not going out. You thought that I was coming
- 11:05over so you're at home waiting on me.
- 11:07So you're not going out. Guess what I'm doing though?
- 11:09I can go out. I can do what I want to do.
- 11:11Then I also know where you are. That's a part of it right there,
- 11:15y'all? I'm 52, last 32 years have been
- 11:22fake. It's time to live.
- 11:23Make the rest of your life the best of your life.
- 11:26Make the rest of your life the best of your life.
- 11:28And also y'all I do have I do I gotta get ready to hop off this
- 11:31thing. I do have a support group called
- 11:33the mental healers. We go live every single Sunday
- 11:36night. I'm about to actually hop off of
- 11:37here and do my private zoom with my mental healers support group.
- 11:41You can find that at mentalillness.net as well.
- 11:44My support group, there's a lot of people in the group, made a
- 11:47lot of friends, a lot of connections and whatnot to help
- 11:50you, to assist you on your healing journey.
- 11:52Like the connections, the people that understand what you're
- 11:54going through, they're literally in the support group.
- 11:56The mental healer support group is live and well.
- 11:59What do I do? Haley?
- 12:01Haley, what do I do? We recently got a paternity test
- 12:04at his request, just to be spiteful.
- 12:06The test came back. The baby is his, which I knew
- 12:08since day one. He begged me to have her.
- 12:10So what do I do now? I mean, now you got to get ready
- 12:12to go parent. I just.
- 12:14Yeah, I think I, I can see with the paternity test when you when
- 12:18you're 2 weeks pregnant or 4 weeks pregnant, we're like,
- 12:20like, what do I do? I'm like, look, you might want
- 12:21to go to Planned Parenthood, right?
- 12:24But now it's too late for that. So now you have to see how the
- 12:27Co parenting journey is going to go.
- 12:29Now he's going to try to mess with you and try to torture you
- 12:31through Co parenting, which is going to be an extremely tough
- 12:33journey to take right there. Y'all extremely tough thing to
- 12:37do. Mine is on dating apps but tells
- 12:40me he still loves me and wants me back.
- 12:41We are legally married. He hurt me so bad.
- 12:43It was supposed to be us to the end us at the end but now but
- 12:46you saw but his actions are showing you that it's not
- 12:48supposed to be y'all at the end. So it's it's a tough, it's
- 12:51really a tough thing to accept, but it's a necessary thing to
- 12:55accept right here if you want to move forward.
- 12:56He's he's on dating apps telling you he loves you because he gets
- 12:59to keep access to you and hold you right where you are while
- 13:02he's out here fucking around and doing some bullshit while you
- 13:04sit right there and wait on him, which is kind of crazy.
- 13:07You right weight on him and he's just going to do it again and
- 13:09again and again and you're going to feel like you wasted your
- 13:11life anyway, y'all, I do have to hop off of here.
- 13:14I say I had to hop off to my support group, the mental
- 13:17healers again. You can find
- 13:18mysupportgrouplink@mentalillness.net. We will chat later on and hit
- 13:23the subscribe button. Y'all peace.