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Speaker 1: Is the bold perform it tonight. More warnings from our
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Speaker 1: energy regulator that solar power could collapse electricity system. I
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Speaker 1: don't think that's what I was supposed to work. Is
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Speaker 1: that why the Energy Minister decided to soften his profile
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Speaker 1: picture by posing as a puppy cuddler. Joe Biden breaks
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Speaker 1: his promise and partns his son Hunter for crimes for
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Speaker 1: which he's facing jail, but also partns him for slees
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Speaker 1: from a decade ago that threatened his father too. Plus
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Speaker 1: how a new explosion of war in Syria threatens us
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Speaker 1: with jihadis back on the March plenty more as well.
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Speaker 1: But first I'm going to cut through the spin or
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Speaker 1: the lies of this latest ban on Australia Day. Another
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Speaker 1: attempted band of Australia Day. I mean, some companies really
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Speaker 1: are slow learners, aren't they? And one just got schooled today.
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Speaker 1: This time it's Australia's biggest second biggest pub group, Australian
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Speaker 1: Venue Co. It's run by this guy, Paul Waterson, who
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Speaker 1: didn't seem to realize the world has actually changed quite quickly.
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Speaker 1: He said, oh no, no to Australia. He and his
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Speaker 1: team no to Australia before they finally got hit today
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Speaker 1: by the reality hammer. No, they said, our two hundred
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Speaker 1: pubs and bars across the country, they're not going to
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Speaker 1: celebrate Australiay, they're not going to acknowledge it. I'll tell
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Speaker 1: you about these guys. Can't read a room or even
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Speaker 1: their front bar for hospitality. Guys, They're sure are deaf.
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Speaker 1: They said, Australia Day is a day that causes sadness
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Speaker 1: for some members of our community, so we have decided
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Speaker 1: not to specifically celebrate a day. The course is hurt
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Speaker 1: for some of our patrons and our team. And already
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, what what is this? Some of their patrons
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Speaker 1: and some of their staff, you know the type, don't
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Speaker 1: like Australia Day, so no one else may celebrated in
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Speaker 1: their pubs. How intolerant are these people? Now? I actually
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Speaker 1: doubt that Waterson surveyed his staff to actually ask how
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Speaker 1: many really did hate Australia Day. That's just the work
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Speaker 1: thing to do, I guess. But I am sure that
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Speaker 1: he didn't get the message when sixty percent of Australians
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Speaker 1: said no lass He said the voice and all that
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Speaker 1: race politics, and nor did he learn from the hammering
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Speaker 1: that Warworth scott from its customers just last Australia Day
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Speaker 1: when it banned Australia merch. I just wonder how these
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Speaker 1: guys could have missed it and it will have had
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Speaker 1: a consumer boycott and got a pile on so bad
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Speaker 1: that ADS eventually announced it would sell Australian flags again.
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Speaker 1: Guess what big surprise, The very same as now happened
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Speaker 1: to Waterson's Australian venue code. Talk back your social media newspapers.
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Speaker 1: They sure let them have it. Their customers must have
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Speaker 1: writed as well. You can see you can see where
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Speaker 1: all this was going. You know, talk again of another
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Speaker 1: boycott and no one day. I mean, you'd be mad
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Speaker 1: to hold the Australia A party one of their pubs
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Speaker 1: like the Esplanade Hotel in Saint Kilda or the Duke
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Speaker 1: of Wellington and Melbourne, or the Cargo Barren, Sydney or
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Speaker 1: the Regatta Hotel in Brisbane. News Court newspapers even printed
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Speaker 1: the full list of these anti Australia Day pubs in
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Speaker 1: today's Herald, Sun and Daily Telegraphs. Sky News had the
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Speaker 1: list in case you felt that these people must be
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Speaker 1: such miserable scolds and so worryingly unpatriotic that you'd rather
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Speaker 1: give them a miss. And not just on Australia Day. Well,
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Speaker 1: alarm bills must to be going everywhere. So in mid
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Speaker 1: afternoon this pub chain folded even faster than woolies saying
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Speaker 1: ooh oh, we can see that our comments on the weekend,
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Speaker 1: of course concerned and confusion. We secerely regret that our
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Speaker 1: purpose is the reinforced community. Our venues not divide it.
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Speaker 1: It is not for us to tell anyone whether or
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Speaker 1: how to celebrate Australia Day. We acknowledge that, and we
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Speaker 1: apologize for our comments. Okay, that's said. That's not quite
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Speaker 1: the full apology, is it. I mean that statement is ambiguous.
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Speaker 1: It says you can still celebrate austray down the pubs.
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Speaker 1: You won't in their pubs, you won't be thrown out
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Speaker 1: on the street. But it doesn't say that the pubs
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Speaker 1: will celebrate it. Have a little sign there maybe, or
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Speaker 1: you know, a little flag. Even so, as I said,
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Speaker 1: I want to cut through the spin. I think it's
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Speaker 1: still necessary, the spin that you hear so often from
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Speaker 1: the waters's of this world. You know how it goes, Oh,
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Speaker 1: we're not against Australia. Oh no, no, no, we're not
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Speaker 1: against the day to celebrate our country. We just don't
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Speaker 1: like celebrating an Australia day. January twenty sixth, it's that day,
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Speaker 1: the day Captain after Philip landon Sydney, British convicts, the
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Speaker 1: start of why settlement. That's all. Pick another day, they say,
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Speaker 1: and we'll be celebrating with you, to which the answer
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Speaker 1: is which day? Really? Which day? Why don't they ever
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Speaker 1: pick one an alternative date and then promise, if it's
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Speaker 1: that date, I am going to be celebrating Australia too.
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Speaker 1: You almost never hear them give a date because it
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Speaker 1: doesn't exist, because this hater of Australia is really haterre
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Speaker 1: of Australia. It is. The haters don't want to celebrate
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Speaker 1: Australia any date because what supposedly upsets them is the
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Speaker 1: very fact of Australia's existence, that people from all over
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Speaker 1: the globe came here, starting with the British, and made
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Speaker 1: lives here in the political system founded by the British.
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Speaker 1: That's what offends them. Any day you pick will be
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Speaker 1: a day of oh my goodness, what misery we've caused
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Speaker 1: and blah blah, you know, whole the thing. And I
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Speaker 1: think their anger is actually fake or it's built on
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Speaker 1: a delusion. I mean, who seriously thinks that this country
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Speaker 1: would have been richer, freer, healthier, and happier and more
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Speaker 1: productive without what the British brought and what immigrants brought
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Speaker 1: after them. I mean, who still truly wants to run
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Speaker 1: around trying to hunt game with a spear without Western medicine,
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Speaker 1: without Western technology and the rest. It's fake even more.
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Speaker 1: January twenty six can and should be celebrated by everyone
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Speaker 1: because it marks the day when we all had to
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Speaker 1: learn how to live side by side with people very
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Speaker 1: different from ourselves. Look around, we have made a very
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Speaker 1: great go of it, and if we can't celebrate that,
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Speaker 1: we're going to fall apart. We would be spitting on
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Speaker 1: our good luck. And that's why I recommenistration is now,
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Speaker 1: particularly with tough times. You know, we know the money
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Speaker 1: and the concern now for all this wow wow wa,
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Speaker 1: I recommenistrans have had it with that in contempt for
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Speaker 1: the day that should unitice. They've had it with this
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Speaker 1: country now flying three flags not one. They've had it
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Speaker 1: with being welcomed to this country as if there were
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Speaker 1: strangers here and they've had it with to now have
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Speaker 1: as the governor general and activist who used to call the
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Speaker 1: Australia Day invasion day. And you know it's so much
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Speaker 1: so that it says I think it says a lot
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Speaker 1: that even labor and peace today everyone that I heard anyway,
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Speaker 1: including the very impressive New South Wales labor premier Christians,
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Speaker 1: they wanted no part of this band today.
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Speaker 2: I think it's still an important day for the country.
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Speaker 2: I genuinely do. I don't think that you can have
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Speaker 2: a sense of national purpose unless you can rally around
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Speaker 2: these important national days on the annual calendar. And these
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Speaker 2: are matters for private companies. And then we don't dictate
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Speaker 2: from the government when and where people should celebrate.
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Speaker 1: So what to shop. Paul Waters and Esteam must have
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Speaker 1: had they really were on their own maybe this big announcement.
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Speaker 1: Think they get a ordered for their great morality and
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Speaker 1: they got a chorus a booze, not even labor politicians
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Speaker 1: to count for them. No wonder that gave up so fast.
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Speaker 1: Now will the rest of corporate Australia now learn the
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Speaker 1: lesson just do your job, sell us the groceries, serve
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Speaker 1: us the beer and leave the politics to your customers.
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Speaker 1: And is it really that hard, guys to look at
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Speaker 1: this great country and just say thanks? Now more evidence
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Speaker 1: today that our power system is falling apart. This is
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Speaker 1: appalling stuff. Last week it was New South Wales running
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Speaker 1: so short of electricity that people were told don't turn
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Speaker 1: on your dishwashers, don't turn on your washing machines. Today
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Speaker 1: it's the energy market operator saying, oh dear, we need
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Speaker 1: to be given emergency power so that we can switch
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Speaker 1: off solar in every state when necessary, because there's just
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Speaker 1: so much of it in the middle of sunny days
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Speaker 1: that the whole system could collapse. Now this is where
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Speaker 1: the global warming dream of the ambanies the government meets
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Speaker 1: engineering and explodes. The problem this time is that we've
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Speaker 1: now got more than four million rooftop solar systems, which
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Speaker 1: sounds like the green dream, but solar wind is actually unstable.
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Speaker 1: It flickers, it can go completely. You always need stability
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Speaker 1: and back up for that. Those two problems, and both
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Speaker 1: of that Both of those things usually come from col
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Speaker 1: and gas plants ticking away in the back of rendy takeover.
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Speaker 1: Stabilizing the system but they can't stay ticking there stabilizing
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Speaker 1: the system if there's so much solar and wind power
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Speaker 1: that they have to be switched off completely. Too much
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Speaker 1: solar power. Who would have thought engineers obviously they've been
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Speaker 1: warning about this in years, but politicians and activists they
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Speaker 1: were deaf. And all this, of course is on top
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Speaker 1: of you, more signs than the supposed transition from coal
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Speaker 1: power to renewables. It's turning out to be a disaster.
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Speaker 1: The three biggest electricity transmission lines we're building to link
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Speaker 1: all the screen energy blown out to double the cost
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Speaker 1: at least sixteen billion dollars instead of Australia is now
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Speaker 1: so short of reliable electricity, having so much wind power
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Speaker 1: that he wants to take its old diesel power. Electricity
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Speaker 1: generates out of the mothballs, out of mothballs urgently to
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Speaker 1: keep on the lights. Now could it have gone so wrong?
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Speaker 1: Joining me is doctor Erdie Patterson, former Chief Executive of
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Speaker 1: the Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organization Running are only
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Speaker 1: nuclear power plant too, and our Chairman of Nuclear for Australia,
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Speaker 1: Doctor Patterson, always great to see it. Look, we keep
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Speaker 1: getting told by politicians we need to go sold there,
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Speaker 1: and now we're told, hey, there's actually too much of
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Speaker 1: this stuff. What exactly is the problem? Can you explain
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Speaker 1: this to the layman.
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Speaker 3: Well, certainly in South Australia there's too much, so they've
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Speaker 3: overboilt silo so they can be sure that it deals
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Speaker 3: with the peaks. And then when the wind is blowing
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Speaker 3: as well, there's too much solar and wind together and
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Speaker 3: that puts a huge penalty into the system. And then
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Speaker 3: if the wind drops in the evening and the sun
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Speaker 3: goes down, which it tends to do at night, suddenly
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Speaker 3: you've got no power. So you have these massive swings
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Speaker 3: in the amount of power. And so typically they use
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Speaker 3: gas plants at the moment, but now they want to
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Speaker 3: bring out some of the other old plants to stabilize that,
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Speaker 3: to make sure that they can keep the lights on.
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Speaker 3: Now they've been warned about this. I've written about this
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Speaker 3: quite extensively. I've spoken about it. But the underlying issue,
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Speaker 3: of the fundamental underlying issue is that you cannot build
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Speaker 3: a big renewables good of the type that is planned
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Speaker 3: by EMO. A EMO is a cult. It does not
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Speaker 3: follow the laws of physics, on the principles of engineering
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Speaker 3: and it is kind of made up a grid that
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Speaker 3: it believes can work that doesn't exist anywhere else in
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Speaker 3: the world. If you add to that the snow hydro battery,
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Speaker 3: which is really struggling and is expensive and taking too long,
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Speaker 3: the obvious thing to do is to lift the band
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Speaker 3: on nuclear. But the underlying fundamental issue is that low
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Speaker 3: quality electricity also drives away business because they cannot have
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Speaker 3: it when they need it. It's not always on, and
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Speaker 3: sometimes you actually need it to be very very pure,
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Speaker 3: you know, three thousand ipm electricity. Now, all of these
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Speaker 3: solar panels on the roof and all the wind turbines
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Speaker 3: are DC devices direct current, and they make up the
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Speaker 3: electricity with digital equipment on the fence. That digital equipment
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Speaker 3: is starting to fall over. It gets old in ten
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Speaker 3: to fifteen years, and so more and more we are
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Speaker 3: building facilities that make bad electricity. And today AMOS announced
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Speaker 3: that it once synchronous condenses. Now in my language, that's
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Speaker 3: using DC electricity which is intermittent to turn really really
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Speaker 3: big machines at three thousand ipm to pretend you're making
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Speaker 3: proper electricity when every cold plant or every nuclear plant
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Speaker 3: or every gas plant will give you that inertia for free,
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Speaker 3: that clean, pure fifty hertz electricity. So we gradually destroying
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Speaker 3: the system that works. We're building a system that has
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Speaker 3: never worked anywhere else, and we're doing it under the
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Speaker 3: under the direction I'm not going to stay leadership, but
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Speaker 3: under the direction of a cultured EMA. So it's terrible
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Speaker 3: in three ways. Bad electricity, bad planning, and a terrible outcome.
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Speaker 1: So there are actually two problems when we talk about
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Speaker 1: stabilizing the system. One is to actually have a very constant,
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Speaker 1: as you say that the RPM measure, very constant stream
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Speaker 1: of electricities and something with every passing cloud. And the
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Speaker 1: other one is to simply have enough power when there's
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Speaker 1: none at all to kick it. And so there are
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Speaker 1: two ways to stabilize it. And these two systems don't
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Speaker 1: do it, or at least not without a huge excellent
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Speaker 1: cost in building a new form of inertia. It's like
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Speaker 1: a carousel. You push it and it's very hard to stop,
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Speaker 1: and that's the idea. Can't stop. But listen, what does
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Speaker 1: that then tell you. I'm just wondering that mills you.
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Speaker 1: The fundamental planning it tells me is that a times
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Speaker 1: more what we've got three times more. Sorry, the large
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Speaker 1: scale wind and solar that we have already to build
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Speaker 1: three times more in just six years.
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Speaker 3: Yep, and double the size of the grid in fifteen.
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Speaker 3: So the grid is forty percent of the cost of
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Speaker 3: the electricity that comes into our homes, but we're going
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Speaker 3: to double the size of the grid for the same
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Speaker 3: amount of electrons. The laws of economics have been thrown
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Speaker 3: out of the window in order to satisfy the planning,
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Speaker 3: the so called system plan isp of a EMO, which
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Speaker 3: is a work of fiction. I mean, Joseph Quan Conrad
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Speaker 3: would be proud of it too, you know, some other
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Speaker 3: author from the eighteenth century. But we are trying to
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Speaker 3: live in this century where forty countries democratic countries around
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Speaker 3: the world are moving to nuclear and we, as an
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Speaker 3: apparently democratic country, have a that you cannot do. The
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Speaker 3: plan were ready. The engineering literature that is peer reviewed
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Speaker 3: says it is at least fifty percent more expensive and
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Speaker 3: possibly four hundred percent more expensive. We know this already.
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Speaker 3: We are planning to fail expensively over the next fifteen years.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Patterson. This is just it's just disgraceful. It really is,
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Speaker 1: like you say, it's a cult, Doctor Patterson, thank you
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Speaker 1: so much for trying to shine some light on this,
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Speaker 1: this nonsense and deceitful in thank you for your time.
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Speaker 1: But what a a sleezing, deceitful end to Joe Bardens
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Speaker 1: time as president today. He's just gone and done what
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Speaker 1: he repeatedly promised he wouldn't do, and pardon his son
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Speaker 1: Hunt two weeks before Hunter face sentencing on two charges
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Speaker 1: cheating the taxman of two million dollars Australian and lying
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Speaker 1: when he bought a gun claiming he wasn't a drug user.
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Speaker 1: But it's actually worse than that. What you're not hearing
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Speaker 1: a lot of in reports is this pardon doesn't just
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Speaker 1: cover these two charges. It's also for offenses Hunter committed
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Speaker 1: or might have committed or taken part of since January
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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. Now why pardon back to twenty fourteen January?
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Speaker 1: That's because in May that year, a decade ago, Hunter
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Speaker 1: Baden was appointed the board of Barisma's, the Ukrainian gas
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Speaker 1: company that faced the investigation for corruption. Even though he
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Speaker 1: was an American no guests expertise, but guess what his father, though,
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Speaker 1: was the American vice president in charge of Ukrainian policy,
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Speaker 1: and that helped Hunter earn one million dollars US a
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Speaker 1: year from Barisma. That can't now be investigated, nor can
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Speaker 1: other allegations of influence peddling, like allegedly earning eight million
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Speaker 1: dollars US from China trading on his father's name. How
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Speaker 1: very useful and what hypocrisy. Joe Biden said, again and
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Speaker 1: again he would not pardon his son. The spokesman was
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Speaker 1: still claiming that three weeks ago, does the.
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Speaker 4: President have any intention of pardoning him?
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Speaker 5: We've been asked that question multiple times.
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Speaker 6: Our answer stands, which is now.
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Speaker 1: So it changed nothing. Joe Biden just wanted to get
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Speaker 1: his son off the hook. In a statement, he said,
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Speaker 1: no reasonable person who looks at the facts of Hunter's
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Speaker 1: case cases can reach any other conclusion that Hunter was
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Speaker 1: singled out only because he is my son, and that
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Speaker 1: is wrong. Enough is enough, he said. Now there is
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Speaker 1: in fact a double hypocrisy here. Donald Trump was sure
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Speaker 1: singled out for prosecution by Democrat prosecutors, including ones in
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Speaker 1: Barnes's own administration, for lynch crimes, and almost no one
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Speaker 1: else would have been charged over and now Democrat politicians
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Speaker 1: affuming that Barden has handed Trump another moral victory. Congressman
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Speaker 1: Greg Stanton, for instance, said this was wrong, This wasn't
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Speaker 1: a political motivated prosecutions of Hunter, and the Democrat governor
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Speaker 1: of Colorado accused Barden of putting his family ahead of
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Speaker 1: the country and sending a bad president that would tarnish
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Speaker 1: his reputation. Joined me as the panel. Michael Kroger, former
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Speaker 1: Victorian Liberal President, Steve Conroy, former Laated senator and cabinet
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Speaker 1: minister Michael the President pards his son fair enough.
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Speaker 7: Well, probably Andrew, because I don't trust the American legal
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Speaker 7: system myself after what they've done to Trump. So in
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Speaker 7: a country where they elect judges, and judges sought election
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Speaker 7: on the basis that they would go after Trump as
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Speaker 7: the guy did in New York, can you trust the system?
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Speaker 7: I don't think he can. So from here, it's very
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Speaker 7: hard to judge where the Hunter Biden was properly convicted.
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Speaker 7: From those tweets, you probably think he was. But you know,
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Speaker 7: I have doubts about the impartiality of the American criminal
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Speaker 7: bar and the prosecutors, so you know, it doesn't surprise me.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's Donald Trump says, what about all the
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Speaker 1: people that were for years and years and years for
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Speaker 1: approachest that the capital in January sixth. You couldn't trust
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Speaker 1: those judgments either, Stephen, what do it make it direct?
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Speaker 8: Well, I think the whole concept of presidents having an
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Speaker 8: ability to pardon felons is a very poor principle in
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Speaker 8: any democracy. So I don't Actually it isn't it the
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Speaker 8: ability for any president.
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Speaker 1: It is really weird.
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Speaker 8: I mean Trump immediately said what about the protesters slash demonstrators?
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Speaker 1: I don't quite have.
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Speaker 8: A benign as benign of view as you do Andrew
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Speaker 8: about what actually happened that day. I think there was
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Speaker 8: a genuine attempt to subvert the democratic transition of power.
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Speaker 8: But Trump now will just be able to waive the
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Speaker 8: Biden one around and go, and I'm freeing people who
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Speaker 8: were involved in what ultimately were people dying. So I
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Speaker 8: don't support this particular thing. It's a quirk of an
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Speaker 8: American democracy. I'm not wherever any other democracy.
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Speaker 5: That allows this.
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Speaker 8: I think it's a bad decision, and I think that
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Speaker 8: now Democrats will not be able to complain well when
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Speaker 8: Trump commits a string of outrageous uh pardons. I mean
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Speaker 8: he even got to remember Matt Gates himself four years
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Speaker 8: ago attempted to get Trump to pardon him. Trump actually
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Speaker 8: said no, to his credit, one of the few, but
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Speaker 8: he didn't. Well, but he's pardoned Jared Kushner's father in law.
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Speaker 8: Who know he wants to be a representative.
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Speaker 1: That doesn't this one. This stuff, this doesn't come within
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Speaker 1: this one. Sam was found guilty. This is a bad principle.
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Speaker 1: So we'll see. It is a bad principle. Was found guilty.
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Speaker 1: It's a very bad principle.
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Speaker 8: And and a whole bunch of bad things are now
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Speaker 8: going to flow from Biden's selfishness.
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Speaker 1: To Australian politics. Michael Premise anything el but easy was
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Speaker 1: last week boasting that he made last minute deals with
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Speaker 1: the Greens and others of ram dozens of bits of
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Speaker 1: legislature through Parliament in this last day or two. But
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Speaker 1: he scrapped one potential deal, an agreement that his Environment
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Speaker 1: Minister and rival Tania Plivzec had all but made with
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Speaker 1: the Greens on her Nature plus plan to create a
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Speaker 1: new Green cop on the beat. Now, priv SEC's reportedly
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Speaker 1: angry that he did that, but how many is here?
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Speaker 1: Yesterday on the ABC seemed absolutely confused about what should
21:25
Speaker 1: actually be up to listen to this.
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Speaker 9: Okay, there is a draft agreement though, and a letter
21:30
Speaker 9: to you that says draft agreement on the top and
21:33
Speaker 9: spells out what that.
21:34
Speaker 10: No, there's not that.
21:35
Speaker 9: Well, i've seen that the draft letter from her, a
21:37
Speaker 9: draft agreement from Tanya Plibersect to the Greens laying out
21:41
Speaker 9: the amens.
21:42
Speaker 10: Well, there's there's no draft agreement to me.
21:45
Speaker 9: Just to be clear, you're saying you weren't aware that
21:48
Speaker 9: the minister had written a draft agreement letter to the
21:50
Speaker 9: Greens laying out.
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Speaker 10: Well, we were negotiating through a series of legislation. Forty
21:57
Speaker 10: five pieces of legislation went through LOK.
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Speaker 1: What does that tell you, Plibast making a draft agreement
22:03
Speaker 1: on a very controversial green law that a Prime minister
22:08
Speaker 1: didn't seem to know about or care about.
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Speaker 7: Well later, those of us inside the political beltway know
22:15
Speaker 7: that for years, Plebisic and Albanizi have hated each other.
22:17
Speaker 7: They're both inside the labor left in New South Wales.
22:20
Speaker 7: They detest each other. So she's working in secret. He's
22:23
Speaker 7: completely unaware of what's going on. She was hoping to
22:26
Speaker 7: do this deal without reference to alb and Easy. He's
22:28
Speaker 7: found out about it and Kyle botched it. He wanted
22:31
Speaker 7: to sneak through as many bills as he quit in
22:33
Speaker 7: this blizzard of behaved blizzard of behavior last week, so
22:36
Speaker 7: that people didn't particularly notice that he'd done some deals
22:39
Speaker 7: with the Greens. But they would have noticed this one
22:41
Speaker 7: because its disastrous consequences for rural Australia. And the problem
22:46
Speaker 7: is that whilst Albow's got the memo about the toxicity
22:49
Speaker 7: of the Greens in Australia today, Plebasic hasn't been hit
22:53
Speaker 7: by the political reality stick. She still thinks it's acceptable
22:56
Speaker 7: to do really important deal like this with the Greens.
23:00
Speaker 7: For her is that it's no longer socially acceptable or
23:04
Speaker 7: fashionable to be associated with the Greens. Young people are
23:08
Speaker 7: walking away from the Greens. They don't want to be
23:11
Speaker 7: associated with this Jewish hatred that surrounds the Greens and
23:15
Speaker 7: the racism that surrounds the Greens and some of their
23:18
Speaker 7: hangers on, at least one of their MPs, and it's
23:21
Speaker 7: just not fashionable for young people to be associated with
23:23
Speaker 7: the Greens anymore. Pleversik's unaware of this or chooses to
23:27
Speaker 7: turn a blind eye to it. She merely goes along
23:30
Speaker 7: trying to do a deal with them, and Alba said
23:31
Speaker 7: these people are toxic, forget it, and he's overalled that
23:34
Speaker 7: that's what's happened.
23:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, not all the Greens are as we say, but
23:40
Speaker 1: boy they're bitter. Open their eyes and walk away. But Stephen,
23:44
Speaker 1: you've been in this process. I mean there's something severely
23:48
Speaker 1: wrong if the Prime Minister does not know that someone's
23:51
Speaker 1: offering an agreement on behalf of his own government or
23:54
Speaker 1: something that's sensitive, or if he does know, only he
23:58
Speaker 1: pretends he doesn't and carbloshes it at the lam Spinner.
24:00
Speaker 1: That is not a way good government works.
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Speaker 8: No, I don't accept the way Michael's characters accept quite
24:06
Speaker 8: a bit of what Michael had to say, particularly around
24:08
Speaker 8: the Greens of antisemitism and white people should be walking
24:11
Speaker 8: away from them, So that's a given. I don't accept
24:14
Speaker 8: this characterization that some secret negotiation was taking place. There
24:18
Speaker 8: would have in some degree of coordination. I think Alba
24:21
Speaker 8: made a brutal but correct call around this bill. This
24:26
Speaker 8: bill would have costs of seats in WA. The West
24:30
Speaker 8: Australian government had to reverse a law that it put
24:32
Speaker 8: in place that was causing enormous problems for the Western
24:36
Speaker 8: Australian government, and I think Albou recognized that this particular
24:40
Speaker 8: piece of legislation, if it had been passed, would have
24:44
Speaker 8: created a blizzard of publicity in West Australia that would
24:48
Speaker 8: have cruled the one state where there's a new seat.
24:52
Speaker 8: We think we're a chance to win the new seat
24:54
Speaker 8: and hold on to all our existing seats. It's a
24:56
Speaker 8: big and tough ask, but I think Albou made a
24:59
Speaker 8: brutal calculation that the party going into a federal election
25:03
Speaker 8: could not afford this legislation in Western Australia. I don't
25:07
Speaker 8: think totally the part about I don't think the part
25:11
Speaker 8: about secrecy and I didn't know what was going on.
25:13
Speaker 8: I think he just made a cold hard decision that
25:16
Speaker 8: this legislation was not unconscious.
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Speaker 1: I totally agree with you this was the right call.
25:23
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, how did he know not know
25:27
Speaker 1: that there'd been a draft agreement made and that he
25:31
Speaker 1: left it to the very last minute to tell her
25:33
Speaker 1: it's not going ahead. There's a lack of communication there
25:36
Speaker 1: for sure. Michael Kroeger, Sleeve and Conroy thank you very
25:40
Speaker 1: much for your time. After the break how fresh war
25:43
Speaker 1: in Syria that's just erupted again between baddies and even
25:47
Speaker 1: bader guys, I mean monsters, really is threatening us as well.
25:51
Speaker 1: With tensions already spreading to the West, we may have
25:59
Speaker 1: even more trouble coming from the Middle East. Jihadest are
26:03
Speaker 1: again on the March, we're told rebels from the Syrian
26:06
Speaker 1: province of Idlib in the northwest, rebels against the bloody
26:12
Speaker 1: regime of Syrian dictator Basha Alasad have taken over Aleppo,
26:15
Speaker 1: that's the commercial capital of Syria, and they grabbed weapons
26:18
Speaker 1: there that have been supplied by assades of Russian allies
26:21
Speaker 1: and drove the Russians out as well. And more humiliation
26:25
Speaker 1: for Russia then, and also humiliation for Assad's other big
26:28
Speaker 1: ally fascist Iran. Now. It's because Israel destroy the Hesboalo
26:33
Speaker 1: Terris army in Lebanon that Hesbelah could help could not
26:37
Speaker 1: help Iran again in Syria. They've been doing a lot
26:39
Speaker 1: of the fighting there. And it's also because that Russia
26:42
Speaker 1: is doing so bad in Ukraine needs all the troops
26:44
Speaker 1: that is weakened again in Syria, and this Turkish backed
26:48
Speaker 1: rebel army from Idlib, well, they took the opportunity and
26:52
Speaker 1: it's now on the march. Now, if you think all
26:54
Speaker 1: that is extremely complicated, I want to show you something.
26:58
Speaker 1: This is a graphic of all the armies now fighting
27:01
Speaker 1: in Syria, Assads, the Kurds, Democrats, the hardest and the rest.
27:05
Speaker 1: Plus the country is helping some of them. There's Russia, there,
27:08
Speaker 1: there's Iran, there's Turkey, the United States. Red line shows
27:12
Speaker 1: which ones are in conflict. Blue line shows which are
27:14
Speaker 1: in supporting each other. And all of this mess with
27:19
Speaker 1: only one common enemy. That's the Islamic state right in
27:22
Speaker 1: the middle, that little black yellow thing, a black dot.
27:25
Speaker 1: It has been a bloodbath, as you can imagine. And
27:28
Speaker 1: basically it's Muslims killing Muslims and killing Muslims, and Russia
27:32
Speaker 1: now bombing residential areas of Aleppo and no one here
27:36
Speaker 1: caring what's happening over there because they cannot blame the
27:39
Speaker 1: Jews this time. Anyway, you might say that all this
27:43
Speaker 1: is good kind of for the West, for you know,
27:45
Speaker 1: if you've got to run and Russia on the backfoot,
27:47
Speaker 1: you've got dictator Aside on the backfoot, a guy who
27:49
Speaker 1: used poisoned gas his own people. That's great, isn't it,
27:52
Speaker 1: Except this is the Middle East, where we always lose.
27:56
Speaker 1: We might have to get used to the idea that
27:57
Speaker 1: a sab might not even be the worst of the slot.
28:01
Speaker 1: Let me show you these soldiers that took over Alepo
28:04
Speaker 1: in just six days, Jehardess in fact, who started out
28:08
Speaker 1: linked to al Qaeda, and it appears from footage on
28:18
Speaker 1: the line they're already taking women captive, Kurdish women, possibly
28:21
Speaker 1: Kurdish soldiers, calling them pigs and enemies of Islam. And
28:25
Speaker 1: we know what jihad is in the past, like the
28:27
Speaker 1: Islamic State have done to women like that. Well, you
28:30
Speaker 1: may say it's not a problem for us, it's way
28:32
Speaker 1: over there, but you know, think for a start of
28:35
Speaker 1: the refugees, a lot of Syrian refugees already, there'll be more.
28:38
Speaker 1: And you think how wars in the Middle East are
28:40
Speaker 1: increasingly wars involving Muslims in the West already now there
28:44
Speaker 1: have been clashes between Turks and Kurds in Oslo and
28:48
Speaker 1: in Brussels, people being run down. Joining me is Michael Schubridge,
28:53
Speaker 1: a former senior defense official now founder and Director of
28:56
Speaker 1: Strategic Analysis Australia. Michael, I won't even try to ask you,
29:03
Speaker 1: you know how this all started is just fiendishly complicated
29:07
Speaker 1: and pointless almost. But what restarted this war?
29:14
Speaker 4: Well, Andrew, you mentioned in your introduction that really the
29:17
Speaker 4: weakening of Hesbola, the dismantling of Hezbola.
29:21
Speaker 5: Hes Bolla were.
29:22
Speaker 4: Propping up Asad and they were in Syria focused on Israel.
29:26
Speaker 4: So Israel pulling Hesbola apart and damaging Iran. And as
29:32
Speaker 4: you mentioned, Russia it is so absorbed with the war
29:36
Speaker 4: in Ukraine and it doesn't have any Wagner mercenaries anymore
29:41
Speaker 4: because it dismantled that themselves, and they're very occupied in Africa.
29:45
Speaker 4: So the ASSAD backers of Russia, Iran and Hasbola have
29:51
Speaker 4: been weakened and distracted, and this very nasty, sunny fundamentalist
30:00
Speaker 4: HTS has now conducted a major offensive in the gap.
30:06
Speaker 1: Isn't it strange? You know, Iran backed Hamas, which has
30:10
Speaker 1: started this war in the first place a year and
30:12
Speaker 1: a bit ago, attacking Israel, massacring twelve hundred Jews, and
30:15
Speaker 1: what we see is a muss destroyed, has Blood destroyed.
30:19
Speaker 1: Iran so weakned that it's a little client in Ashad
30:23
Speaker 1: now looks in real danger. What an own goal? Who
30:28
Speaker 1: are the goodies though in this fight.
30:32
Speaker 4: Well, I think the only good is here are the
30:34
Speaker 4: Kurds over in the west of Syria, and they've got
30:41
Speaker 4: a small number of US courses, about nine hundred. They've
30:44
Speaker 4: been allies against Islamic State. And then the other good
30:48
Speaker 4: is the Syrian population and this war is ravaging all
30:52
Speaker 4: of them.
30:55
Speaker 1: That is absolutely true. Which armies are the US fund
30:59
Speaker 1: and there's even stories that one militia funded by the
31:02
Speaker 1: CIA is fighting another funded by the by another branch
31:08
Speaker 1: of the Americans.
31:12
Speaker 4: Well, the main partnership that the Americans have is with
31:15
Speaker 4: the Syrian Democratic Forces, which is a Kurdish group. Of course,
31:20
Speaker 4: the Turks hate the Kurds and have accused Kurdish groups
31:26
Speaker 4: the Americans have been working with as being terrorist organizations,
31:30
Speaker 4: but that's really.
31:32
Speaker 1: A Turkish perspective.
31:34
Speaker 4: But the US are really partnering with the Kurds and
31:38
Speaker 4: that's been keeping a lid on Islamic State, which are
31:41
Speaker 4: right near them.
31:44
Speaker 1: What it's complete mess. I mean, it's just catastrophic. But
31:52
Speaker 1: do we just say, well, that's Syria, it's not going
31:54
Speaker 1: to come here, or do you think it will? We
31:57
Speaker 1: will feel the ripple effects.
31:58
Speaker 4: Of this, Well, I think there's that old cliche that
32:04
Speaker 4: says the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
32:07
Speaker 3: I think that's wrong more.
32:08
Speaker 4: Times than it's right. This HTS bunch that might give
32:13
Speaker 4: us Sad real trouble and could topple him, although I
32:16
Speaker 4: think Russia will back him enough to keep him in power.
32:20
Speaker 4: That if the HTS that are conducting this offensive now
32:23
Speaker 4: get more control of Syria, they're a Taliban like bunch.
32:27
Speaker 4: They broke with ol Coyeda in twenty eighteen really for
32:32
Speaker 4: marketing purposes, and they've had a makeover, but they're the
32:35
Speaker 4: same nasty, Taliban like bunch. And if they control more
32:39
Speaker 4: of Syria, yes, we'll see refugees and we'll see more atrocities.
32:45
Speaker 1: Dear e Me, I would say we're far enough for
32:48
Speaker 1: a way not to be overwhelmed by the refugees. But
32:51
Speaker 1: Europe will have even more coming over from Syria. You
32:55
Speaker 1: can absolutely count on it. What a mess the Middle
32:58
Speaker 1: East is and all these protests is focus on evil
33:01
Speaker 1: Israel instead. When this is going on, Mark my words, Michael,
33:05
Speaker 1: there will not be mass demonstrations day in day out saying,
33:08
Speaker 1: you know, stop the killing. Russia stopped dropping bombs because
33:12
Speaker 1: there's no Jews involved. So there you go. Michael Schudbridge,
33:15
Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time. After the break,
33:19
Speaker 1: the panel on the dumbest pub chain in Australia, plus
33:23
Speaker 1: more tension between Anthony Albanezi and his radical environment minister
33:27
Speaker 1: coming up as well. They're just going back to the
33:34
Speaker 1: attempt to ban on Australia Day by the country's second
33:36
Speaker 1: biggest pub operator, Australian Venue Co more than two hundred pubs.
33:41
Speaker 1: What idiots, How can you be in the hospitality industry,
33:45
Speaker 1: in pubs and dealing with tens of thousands of ordinary
33:49
Speaker 1: Australians drinking your beer and think banning Australia Day. That's
33:54
Speaker 1: a great idea. Join me and Louis Roberts, Scone's contributor
33:57
Speaker 1: in Liz Storo from the late debate here in sky Wheakners.
34:00
Speaker 1: It's at ten pm, Louise, I mean, seriously, it is
34:04
Speaker 1: astonishing to me that this pub chain tried this after
34:08
Speaker 1: Woolworth's got special for doing the same. It makes you
34:11
Speaker 1: wonder what silo they're in. But should we actually be
34:15
Speaker 1: encouraged this time? They didn't even take a day to
34:18
Speaker 1: fold and.
34:19
Speaker 11: Wasn't that good? Exactly?
34:21
Speaker 12: So the people power really overturned that ridiculous ban. I've
34:25
Speaker 12: got so many questions about this. Did they actually talk
34:27
Speaker 12: to staff, a staff who working pubs offended by Australia Day.
34:30
Speaker 12: If so, why don't they work in another industry.
34:32
Speaker 11: There's plenty of people.
34:33
Speaker 12: Would like to take those jobs. We've got a Singapore
34:36
Speaker 12: based I believe foreign company owning this pub business. So
34:40
Speaker 12: they're all behind a death by thousand cuts to Australia Day.
34:44
Speaker 11: These people are relentless.
34:45
Speaker 12: They will not stop until they've killed off our National
34:47
Speaker 12: Day and that makes us the laughing stock the world over.
34:50
Speaker 12: I think, Andrew, because if you think of you spent
34:52
Speaker 12: any time in the UK, which I have, when Australia
34:54
Speaker 12: Day rolled around, we actually love celebrating it. We were
34:57
Speaker 12: so proud to be Australian. It's only since i've I'm
35:00
Speaker 12: back to Australia I can see there's people here who
35:02
Speaker 12: are not proud to be Australia. And that breaks my
35:04
Speaker 12: heart because I think these woke misters come in and
35:07
Speaker 12: just try and chip it away at our National Pride.
35:10
Speaker 12: And it was so good today that people said no enough,
35:12
Speaker 12: We're not going to go to your pubs. We're going
35:14
Speaker 12: to look up your pubs on the website, and we're
35:16
Speaker 12: not going to go there anymore. We're going to vote
35:18
Speaker 12: with our credit cards. We're not spending money with you.
35:22
Speaker 1: But it's interesting, Liz, I actually take a lot of heart.
35:25
Speaker 1: I would have thought, to be honest, that people were
35:27
Speaker 1: smart enough to work out that Woolworth drew a line
35:30
Speaker 1: over this kind of stuff under it, and that was it.
35:33
Speaker 1: These people somehow thought they'd try their luck and got
35:38
Speaker 1: whacked so hard and so fast. I seriously wonder whether
35:42
Speaker 1: any people in commercial business like them will dare trade
35:47
Speaker 1: this again.
35:49
Speaker 5: We can dream Andrew.
35:51
Speaker 6: I don't know about that though, but this group of
35:54
Speaker 6: Australian venue go is well known for their DEI initiatives
35:58
Speaker 6: and so obviously this is just another tenant of that.
36:02
Speaker 5: And the thing with a black backflip like this is
36:05
Speaker 5: the damage is done.
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Speaker 6: People have already circulated the list of your two hundred
36:11
Speaker 6: pubs and said backflip or no backflip, we are boycotting
36:15
Speaker 6: you guys because you've already shown your hand.
36:18
Speaker 5: We already know where your values lie.
36:20
Speaker 6: We get to put our money wherever we like, and
36:23
Speaker 6: we're not giving it to you.
36:24
Speaker 5: And Luis was very right to bring up.
36:27
Speaker 6: The shareholders, because this is what I do every time
36:30
Speaker 6: one of these companies does this when we're worths did it?
36:33
Speaker 5: I was telling everyone who would listen.
36:35
Speaker 6: Two of their top three shareholders are black Rock and Vanguard,
36:39
Speaker 6: also raging lefties. So these kinds of directives comes from
36:44
Speaker 6: the top. We know from the statement that they put
36:47
Speaker 6: out that the managers of these pubs were given this instruction.
36:51
Speaker 6: So it's not like the managers sat round and said, yeah,
36:54
Speaker 6: let's boycott one of the busiest days of the year
36:57
Speaker 6: for publicans across the nation.
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Speaker 5: No, this came from the top.
37:03
Speaker 6: And while Australian Venue Co sounds very Australian, it's owned
37:08
Speaker 6: by pag Asia Capital, which is based.
37:11
Speaker 11: In Hong Kong.
37:12
Speaker 6: They bought it just August last year to the tune
37:15
Speaker 6: of around one point four billion dollars, so it's not
37:18
Speaker 6: an Australian company at all.
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Speaker 1: I don't get it. I didn't know was it Hong
37:25
Speaker 1: Kong or Singapore or whatever. If they tried that trick not,
37:28
Speaker 1: you know, dissing their national day, that end up probably
37:31
Speaker 1: in the clink. But here we can this our own.
37:35
Speaker 1: I don't get it. Louise I mentioned earlier. How our
37:40
Speaker 1: power system seems to be falling apart with this post
37:42
Speaker 1: shift to renewable energy. You know you had you south.
37:45
Speaker 1: I was running a power last week. Now you got this.
37:47
Speaker 1: Oh we got too much solid power, you know, good
37:50
Speaker 1: creation system. There's a lot of anger, of course, being
37:53
Speaker 1: aimed at Federal Energy Minister Chris Bowen. You just have
37:56
Speaker 1: to write about in the paper and he goes nuts.
37:59
Speaker 1: He seems to have tried to soften his image though,
38:01
Speaker 1: but now changing the profile picture on his ex account
38:05
Speaker 1: with a picture of him really cuddling up puppy. That's
38:08
Speaker 1: a big cudd off. Does that's work for you?
38:11
Speaker 11: No, it certainly does not.
38:12
Speaker 12: And I think even that dog would think it's a
38:14
Speaker 12: bit rough that Chris Bowen said he would cut our
38:16
Speaker 12: power and in fact cut our power bills rather end
38:19
Speaker 12: up cutting our power. Maybe a bit of a frauding
38:21
Speaker 12: slip there, and in fact it's done the exact opposite.
38:24
Speaker 12: Our bills are hiked up. I read today our manager
38:26
Speaker 12: there's one hundred and thirty one hundred and forty thousand
38:29
Speaker 12: households in Australia who want a special plans to pay
38:32
Speaker 12: off their bills. We are record levels in this country
38:35
Speaker 12: of people who are unable to pay their energy bills.
38:38
Speaker 12: The fact that we're even talking about blackouts at the weekend,
38:41
Speaker 12: I wrote about this as well, and yes the column
38:42
Speaker 12: did go off because people are really, really angry. Why
38:46
Speaker 12: are we talking about blackouts in twenty twenty four. It's
38:48
Speaker 12: absolutely obscene that the government has not done what they
38:51
Speaker 12: said they would do and helped us.
38:53
Speaker 11: With this cost of living initiative. It's crazy. Puppy is
38:56
Speaker 11: not going to fix that, honestly, Liz.
38:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a third world industry in a sense taking
39:02
Speaker 1: off you people buying generators for when the power doesn't
39:08
Speaker 1: go on. I mean that's extraordinary. They've got a boom
39:10
Speaker 1: in sales. I've got one outside the front door, and
39:14
Speaker 1: boys kicked in a few times this year already. I mean,
39:18
Speaker 1: what kind of country? Is this? A first world economy
39:21
Speaker 1: where people now think I better buy a generator.
39:26
Speaker 6: Yes, it's only the people who can afford a generator, Andrew,
39:29
Speaker 6: excuse everyone. Not everyone has a spared ten grand sitting
39:33
Speaker 6: around for these forthcoming blackouts, which we can only expect
39:38
Speaker 6: will become more and more prolific. I don't know about you,
39:41
Speaker 6: but I've been to places all over Asia, India, Sri Lanka,
39:45
Speaker 6: Thailand and Paul, Bangladesh, and these kinds of things are
39:49
Speaker 6: very common. You never know when the power is going
39:52
Speaker 6: to be offer on on any given day in any
39:55
Speaker 6: given town.
39:56
Speaker 5: It's part of their way of life.
39:58
Speaker 6: And the headlines that I'm seeing in my own country
40:01
Speaker 6: are very reminiscent of where I've been in Asia, but
40:04
Speaker 6: of course they aren't First World countries, so it kind
40:08
Speaker 6: of comes with the territory Australia being.
40:11
Speaker 5: The most energy rich country on Earth. Andrew, this is
40:16
Speaker 5: just laughable.
40:18
Speaker 6: We know it's got nothing to do with our resources
40:21
Speaker 6: and everything to do with our government.
40:26
Speaker 1: Yes, I've lived in Hong Kong and I lived in Bangkok,
40:29
Speaker 1: and I must say I can't remember the power going
40:31
Speaker 1: off there, but yes around the poorer countries I did.
40:35
Speaker 1: You're quite absolutely correct, Louise was talking earlier. You know,
40:40
Speaker 1: like Anthony Aberdees is busy putting out the fire Scouts
40:42
Speaker 1: by environment is a tenure plivasec and now killed off
40:45
Speaker 1: her plan deal with the Greens for a new nature
40:48
Speaker 1: plus bureaucracy now is due to go to Tasmane to
40:51
Speaker 1: come down workers in the salmon industry who are scared
40:54
Speaker 1: that Plebasik could now kill off their industry to save
40:57
Speaker 1: a rare kind of skate I mean, don't you think
41:02
Speaker 1: Australians in this recession have absolutely had it with that
41:07
Speaker 1: kind of green activism now one hundred percent?
41:10
Speaker 12: I mean Tazzi salmon industry is worth one point three
41:13
Speaker 12: to six billion dollars. They're not on export to the
41:15
Speaker 12: mainland where we all enjoy this salmon a Christmas, and
41:18
Speaker 12: really that's not is salmon conversation we should be having
41:21
Speaker 12: encouraging people to go out and buy it to help
41:23
Speaker 12: these people in tasmani now. But because of these two
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Speaker 12: studies which are in abeyance, and Plivsek has not got
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Speaker 12: her act together at all as far as deciding what's
41:30
Speaker 12: going to happen to this rare skate fish. I mean,
41:33
Speaker 12: we don't have one point thirty six billion dollar skate
41:35
Speaker 12: industry in Tasmania, do we. So, of course, of Paul
41:38
Speaker 12: Tazzy salmon farmers and the workers don't know if they've
41:41
Speaker 12: got a job, they don't know if they're going to
41:43
Speaker 12: be out of work next year. What's happened to their industry.
41:45
Speaker 12: It's absolutely disgusting what's happening down there, And I can
41:47
Speaker 12: see why Elbow is like trying to say to us,
41:50
Speaker 12: nothing to see here. You know, Tanya and I are
41:52
Speaker 12: totally aligned on this.
41:53
Speaker 11: You know.
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Speaker 12: Obviously he's concerned there's some critical seats which could go
41:57
Speaker 12: to the Coalition if they don't support the Tasman in
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Speaker 12: salmon industry. And of course you've got Peter Dutton in
42:04
Speaker 12: the wings. He's saying, well, we support the salmon industry
42:07
Speaker 12: rather than we support mining.
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Speaker 11: So it's an absolute mess down there. The election coming up, yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 1: And this election coming up with a few seats that
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Speaker 1: they could win, So that's no wonder Albanez's trying to
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Speaker 1: put out that far too. I wonder if it's got
42:21
Speaker 1: the memo don't cost us seats. Louise Robertson, Liztora, thank
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Speaker 1: you both for your time. I wants see the way
42:28
Speaker 1: to save the skate is to start eating it as well,
42:31
Speaker 1: because if you might have noticed that once you start
42:34
Speaker 1: wanting an animal to eat, you grow a lot more
42:37
Speaker 1: of them. It's not being endangered in a heartbeat if
42:41
Speaker 1: you've made farming of these skates and industry. After the break,
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Speaker 1: the Master Chef host accused of sleezing around female guests
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Speaker 1: the BBC. Really yeah, I mentioned before how wars in
42:58
Speaker 1: the Middle East now tend to come to it thanks
43:00
Speaker 1: to mass immigration. I'll give you a really sad example,
43:04
Speaker 1: very topical. Germany's famous Christmas markets, very famous. They're now
43:09
Speaker 1: being set up, you know, being first December and all that,
43:12
Speaker 1: and many now have barriers and bollards to stop truck
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Speaker 1: attacks by islonists like you see in this entrance to
43:22
Speaker 1: this market in Berlin. Now because they suffered a terror
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Speaker 1: attack just eight years ago, you might record many people dead.
43:28
Speaker 1: Other German cities have got the same. Dresden, for instance,
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Speaker 1: got bolts. I mean, now Christmas comes with not just
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Speaker 1: bond bonds, but threats or bombs. Even Join me from
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Speaker 1: London is writer broadcast to author Esther Krak, who our
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Speaker 1: regular Monday guests. It's the greatest. See you look in
43:45
Speaker 1: Britain too. I you know, bollards are becoming standard on
43:49
Speaker 1: beautiful York the market there now behind bollards. Europe has
43:53
Speaker 1: sure changed.
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Speaker 13: Yes it has.
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Speaker 14: I mean the big question now is how do you
43:58
Speaker 14: protect yourself from the me within? And unfortunately this is
44:02
Speaker 14: a europe wide issue. I mean, it's quite unimaginable that
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Speaker 14: in order to protect yourself from people within your own
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Speaker 14: population that wanted to cause mass terror and perpetrate mass.
44:14
Speaker 13: Murder, that you have to do this.
44:15
Speaker 14: I mean, our children are growing up in a dystopian hell,
44:18
Speaker 14: and this wouldn't have happened if they had heeded the
44:20
Speaker 14: warnings that were given time and time again.
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Speaker 13: Over the last more than a decade.
44:24
Speaker 14: For example, people like Douglas Murray have been maligned as
44:26
Speaker 14: the worst from racist and then time and time again
44:29
Speaker 14: he's been proven as being right. I mean, you wouldn't
44:32
Speaker 14: think that we have this problem in Europe if you've
44:34
Speaker 14: read a lot of the publications, for example, you know
44:37
Speaker 14: European media is so psycophantic over the likes of people
44:40
Speaker 14: like Angela Merkle, who's responsible for importing one point two
44:43
Speaker 14: million asylum seekers and refugees back in twenty sixteen I'm
44:47
Speaker 14: not sure if you remember, and they were meant to
44:49
Speaker 14: be for Syrian refugees at the height of the conflict. Well,
44:52
Speaker 14: it turns out of that one point two million people
44:54
Speaker 14: that were imported into Germany, only a quarter of them
44:56
Speaker 14: happened to be Syrian. The rest happened to be Albanians,
44:59
Speaker 14: cost of Nigerians and Pakistanis, and no one is being
45:03
Speaker 14: held to account. You have, you know, people teachers in France,
45:06
Speaker 14: for example, like Samuel Patti, who was beheaded outside of
45:09
Speaker 14: his school four years ago for showing his class images
45:14
Speaker 14: of the Charlie Hebdo magazine that a student lied about
45:17
Speaker 14: finding offensive and then he was he.
45:20
Speaker 13: Was beheaded outside of his school.
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Speaker 14: I mean, these are the kinds of things that you
45:24
Speaker 14: wouldn't think would be happening in Europe now. And now
45:26
Speaker 14: you have places of mass gathering during Christmas holidays in York,
45:29
Speaker 14: in London, in now Germany that are being bollarded up
45:33
Speaker 14: effectively because there is a threat of people within your
45:36
Speaker 14: own population.
45:37
Speaker 13: It's really just disheartening.
45:39
Speaker 14: And the fact that these elitists are clutching their pearls
45:42
Speaker 14: and pretending not to do anything about it and still
45:44
Speaker 14: maligning the broader population for being concerned about it is
45:47
Speaker 14: really scandalous.
45:49
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you'd still be accused of being a racist
45:52
Speaker 1: if you said, well, maybe nok Peal had a point
45:55
Speaker 1: all those years ago, with the great author genre spe
45:58
Speaker 1: Or from Camp and the Saints. Maybe he was right
46:01
Speaker 1: with this warning. Oh you can't say, I can't possibly
46:03
Speaker 1: say that. Well now, Michelle Welbeck, fantastic writer. One person
46:09
Speaker 1: who has been saying it, who did dare and was
46:11
Speaker 1: excoriated for is Nigel Farage. Of course, British politician finally
46:16
Speaker 1: has won a secret partner in the last selection. There
46:18
Speaker 1: are rumors now esther, and there are only rumors no
46:21
Speaker 1: one can actually source. Where it comes from. Is that
46:23
Speaker 1: Elon Musk, the world's richest man, owner of X is
46:27
Speaker 1: now going to support Farage like he supported Donald Trump
46:30
Speaker 1: at the last selection and give him one hundred million
46:34
Speaker 1: dollars US. Any truth to this, well, this.
46:39
Speaker 13: Is all just speculation.
46:40
Speaker 14: But I'm sure if it were to happen, you would
46:42
Speaker 14: be hearing the BBC's and the ITVS and MSNBC screaming
46:46
Speaker 14: all the way from space, when in fact he'd really
46:49
Speaker 14: just be leveling the playing field. I mean, you had
46:51
Speaker 14: a donor, a labor donor that had twenty four access
46:54
Speaker 14: to Downing Street for an amasingly donation of half a
46:57
Speaker 14: million pounds. That's the going rate to have unfatted eyes
47:00
Speaker 14: access to Downing Street half a million pounds. But the
47:03
Speaker 14: question is how this will forward the British public.
47:06
Speaker 11: Now we know that.
47:07
Speaker 13: You know, Boris Johnson during his.
47:08
Speaker 14: Twenty nineteen campaign purposely distanced himself from Trump because the
47:12
Speaker 14: media here, particularly in Britain, had such a foothold and
47:15
Speaker 14: was able to manage or manage to get public opinions
47:18
Speaker 14: so against Trump that he actually thought it would backfire against.
47:20
Speaker 13: Him to be aligned with Trump.
47:22
Speaker 14: Now I'm not sure it would backfind in the same way,
47:24
Speaker 14: because Nando Faraj has been unapologetic about his friendship with
47:27
Speaker 14: Donald Trump. But the question is if he was getting
47:30
Speaker 14: funded that significant amount of funding from someone like Elon Musk,
47:33
Speaker 14: how that would play.
47:34
Speaker 1: Now.
47:34
Speaker 14: I think he could raise a significant amount of money
47:37
Speaker 14: just from businessmen and from concerned people here in Britain
47:40
Speaker 14: that could probably rival that amount of money. And the
47:43
Speaker 14: question is will will that go down with the sections
47:46
Speaker 14: of the electorate that he still needs to win in
47:48
Speaker 14: the twenty twenty twenty twenty nine general election.
47:51
Speaker 13: That's the question.
47:51
Speaker 14: I suspect he'll probably just win based on the issues
47:54
Speaker 14: which the Tories and the Labor Party have utterly failed,
47:57
Speaker 14: but he would have to be very careful because we
47:59
Speaker 14: can't have it anything jeopardizing the actually what you've been
48:03
Speaker 14: campaigning on.
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Speaker 1: Yep, Look esther, I regret to say that the BBC,
48:09
Speaker 1: with big fingerwagers there have yet enother sex scandal on
48:12
Speaker 1: their hands, although I've got to say it's nothing like
48:14
Speaker 1: the worst that they've been having the gymselves and all
48:16
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Master Chef hosts Greg Wallace is
48:19
Speaker 1: accused of sexual banter to contestants and judge about what
48:23
Speaker 1: the BBC that go to war? You know it must
48:26
Speaker 1: have been quite off, but he has now defended himself
48:30
Speaker 1: in a way that has made it worse.
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Speaker 15: Here is I think in that time I have worked
48:36
Speaker 15: with over four thousand contestants of all different ages, all
48:43
Speaker 15: different backgrounds, all walks of life. I can see the
48:47
Speaker 15: complaints coming from a handful of middle class women of
48:55
Speaker 15: a certain age, just from celebrity MasterChef.
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Speaker 1: This isn't right. It's the you are not of a
49:05
Speaker 1: certain age. But how has this gone down with women
49:08
Speaker 1: who are.
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Speaker 14: Well like a lead balloon as you would imagine, he's
49:13
Speaker 14: basically called them frump and dumpey, not appreciating his rather
49:17
Speaker 14: acerbic and a very sexual sense of humor. Look, the
49:21
Speaker 14: thing is the BBC here's a sex scandal and runs
49:24
Speaker 14: for its life because of the like of Hugh Edwards,
49:26
Speaker 14: who hasn't been in prison and who's not going to
49:28
Speaker 14: be in prison for being convicted of having child sex
49:30
Speaker 14: abuse images, which I don't know about you, but you know,
49:33
Speaker 14: someone having naked pictures of children is called something in
49:36
Speaker 14: my book anyway.
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Speaker 13: But this is nothing like that.
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Speaker 14: I mean, these are complaints of sexual ten years ago.
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Speaker 14: What exactly is there for the BBC to investigate? Some
49:46
Speaker 14: of these comments will aired live on TV and if
49:49
Speaker 14: that didn't cause it.
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Speaker 13: Really much, what he's going to do?
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Speaker 1: Yes, this correctly, Thank you so much indeed for your turn.
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Speaker 1: That's it for me, Sherry Maxon next good night, KA