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Diabetes + Stress in the Rearview Mirror · Giving Pain Purpose with Lyndsay Soprano

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This is Your Pain Game podcast where we talk about the game of living in
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and with chronic pain and trauma, getting to the heart of how to heal.
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I am your host, Lindsay Soprano. On the show, I plan
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on discussing with doctors, chronic pain patients, holistic practitioners, loved ones,
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and anybody that is interested in having their voice heard in the chronic pain and
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trauma world that we live in. Many many years ago, I briefly dated
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an amazingly sweet man in Nova Scotia, and by from Nova Scotia, I
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mean he lived there and I was in California, So put those together.
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Successful mission from California to Nova Scotia. Anyways, I oddly don't remember how
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I met him, but I do remember everything after I met him. He
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had four kids, triplets and a single. I don't know if that's how
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you refer to that, but like baseball teams, triplets and a single.
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So after a short time of dating from Afar, we decided that I should
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go and stay with him and his four kids in Nova Scotia with my four
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dogs and to see if this was actually potentially going to be a thing.
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Right And it was not the best idea on the planet with four kids and
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four dogs. But one of the things that I found out was that two
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of his kids had Type one diabetes. And I'd never really been around anyone
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that had had diabetes. And even to this day, I don't know enough
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about it because I haven't needed to. And I think that that's silly of
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me, because it is so rampant across the United States and well globally,
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you know why is that right? So the relationship wasn't a match. It
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was beyond hectic. But I do have a couple of takeaways for you guys.
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Don't drive to Nova Scotia from California in a snowstorm with four dogs like
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a complete asshole, Like, just don't do that. Appreciate and understand how
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delicate and precious our bodies are, and what an incredible challenge managing diabetes is
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and the importance of it and how we can help prevent it. So years
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later, a couple of my dogs actually passed away from diabetes. And I
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can tell you that I'm not comparing dogs to humans, but it's a horrible
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thing to have to manage all day long with your animals, with your people.
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Right, how do we do that better. How do we face those
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challenges and why are we even faced with these challenges? And how can we
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play a more active role right in our healthcare? So with that, my
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guest today is on a mission to empower us all to take that active role
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in their health so they can create health on their own terms. Her goal
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is to put the power back in her clients and their family's hands by providing
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tools and guidance to mitigate and in some cases, completely reverse their pain and
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their type two diabetes. So let's talk about it without further ado, I'd
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like to introduce to you my guest today, doctor Lara May. Hey girl,
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hey girl, how are you. Last time I saw her for our
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meet and greet, she had to pull over into a parking lot and she
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had a flat Bilt hat on and she was just like this little rock star.
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Now she's all gussied up for me today. So thanks for showing your
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beautiful face. Oh thanks for having me. Yeah. No, it wasn't
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even a parking lot. It was just an off ramp. Oh my god,
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you're like, I got to talk to Lindsay right now. That's what
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I'm talking about, guys. So doctor Lara Mae is an advanced clinical pharmacist,
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functional medicine, health coach, and a master tuned intuitive healer and teacher
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at her company, Light Body Healing and Consulting. She specializes in getting to
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the root cause, root cause guys of disease via functional medicine and energy medicine.
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We talk a lot about that on this show, especially our Bodies and
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our Energy. After working in emergency rooms and adult acute care for over a
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decade, she transitioned into integrative health and due to her own struggles with her
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health, she started studying and practicing. You say it, you, suey
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raiki, Oh, that's the one. I'm like, God, wait,
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which one? Which one? Which one? Is it? Right? And
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then she found functional medicine in twenty seventeen. The rest is history. So
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I am going to roll out the red carpet for you. I'd like to
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start with what the hell is diabetes and what is the difference between type one
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and type two? Ultimately, diabetes is our body not knowing what to do
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with the glucose that's circulating through a bloodstream. So ideally what should happen is
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we either eat sugar or our body also makes sugar. Our body releases its
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own sugar at times when it's triggered too, and then in response, based
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on the level our pancreas will pump out the insulin. The insulin comes along
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and grabs the glucose and and stores it away as fat. So that's why
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diabetics that are insulin dependent, whether they're type one or type two, will
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oftentimes find themselves gaining weight, because insulin is a fat storage hormone. So
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that's the other thing that I think a lot of people don't realize it.
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Insulin is a hormone in the body. So, yes, thank you for
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clarifying me. Yes, yeah, which is why when you're a diabetic you
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go to an endocrinologist even you know. But you know, sometimes when people
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are like, well, if I have my thyroids out of whack, I
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go to an interochronologist too, or if my estrogen or testosterone I should go
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to an indo chronologist. But usually they'll send me to a different practitioner.
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I'm all confused, like, what are all these people doing? That's exactly
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right, Yeah, that's basically our healthcare system. Yes, freaking confusing,
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Yes, yes, But the difference between type one and type two is type
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one is a genetic mishap malfunction yes neapoo that is triggered at some point,
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usually during childhood. It is one of the less than two percent of disease
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states that are truly genetic, and type two is brought on by lifestyle choices.
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You know, I'm all about radical responsibility these days. So we create
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it. Unfortunately, we do that to ourselves. But you know what that
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means, as that means we can uncreate it, we can fix it,
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we can heal it, we can move beyond it. So I think there's
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great power in knowing what we create. I love that so much. It's
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almost like it just feels so good to say that we can pull ourselves out
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of a lot of our health issues by unfortunately having to look at ourselves pretty
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straight on in the mirror and go all right, so I've got X,
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Y and Z stuff. How did I actually add to this and bring this
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to my body and my health and my life and all that? What are
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the things along the way? Right? So? Okay, So with you,
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you work specifically with type two diabetes, right, yes? So can
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we talk a little bit about what you do in relation to that? Yes?
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Absolutely, So what I do Normally people come to me, they already
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know something as a myss, So I'm not the diagnostician here. People already
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know what's going on when they get to by the time they get to me.
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And but what we do is we go through and we look out.
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What are you eating? What is your life? What does your daily life
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look like? How are you sleeping? How often do you eat all those
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good things? How much stress do you have in your life? How much
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support do you have in your life? How do you handle the stress that
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is in your life? Because we all have stress, right, but how
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do we handle it? Do we just shove it in our body and shove
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it down and go through life with a smile and say I'm fine, Everything's
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fine. That. Yeah, Now I'm the poster child for it, for
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sure. I've said before that I'm Meryl Street being got shit on me when
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it comes to acting through things. I've got many many Academy awards for doing
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just that. Yeah, fooling the world. But yeah, ain't nothing to
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see here, Yeah to see here. But at the end of the day,
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I mean, all it's doing is hurting ourselves, you know, right,
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So yes, and so beyond that, once we've I call it my
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in depth health history and health evaluation, which most people, even throughout our
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entire life in Western medicine, never really get a good comprehensive, thorough one.
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And so I also want to know, you know, were you born
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by C section? Did you have a lot of antibiotics in your life as
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a child? Were there traumas? I know you were going to ask me
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about this later, but I can also just say, like, if there
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were any traumas that a client of mine wants to bring forward, I provide
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space for them to do that. And then again like are you on medications
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now? What are they? How long have you been on them? What
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have you tried? What have you you know that's worked? What are all
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the things that you tried to obviously have it worked? You know? So
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I very in depth conversation and then I order tests and so that's sort of
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like the cornerstone of functional medicine, besides the fact that it's a systems based
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approach, meaning it's a whole integrative look. So I'm not just looking at
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your pancreas. I want to see, you know, how is your gut
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health, what are your thoughts about your disease process? Or your life or
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this whole thing that's going on for you. You know that mind and body
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connection is for real. And the more we recreate and repave those roads,
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the better and easier time we have moving forward of healing and putting some of
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these things in the rear view and reversing them well. And I love that,
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and I love that that it's functional, because what I've learned over the
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past couple of years, especially since I started this show, is how left
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behind I've been with Western medicine for a decade, actually earlier than that,
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Like there were things that happened, like, for example, I have polysic
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sickovarian pcos right and I couldn't get pregnant, all of these different things.
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And we're talking about going back to childhood trauma. And I read so much
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about how all of these things that happen within our body can happen from things
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that happen to us when we're younger, and those traumas can come in and
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influence our energy obviously, and our body and our development. And when you
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have childhood traumas and even adult traumas, you know, I feel like that
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it sits so close into our bodies and goes into ourselves and into our brain,
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and it just transforms who you actually end up becoming. And I love
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that we can uncreate that, like you said earlier, because that gives me
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hope versus like, well, that's it. But the functional part of it
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is so interesting to me because I've never been functional. I've never gone through
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all of the testing for functional medicine until almost a year ago, where I
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started going down the path. I found out so many incredibly interesting and also
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detrimental things that have been just harboring in my body and eating me away basically,
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and nobody said, well, maybe we should test you for this.
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Nobody got curious about why I was having these issues. And so now I'm
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here and everybody's curious in my life now, and I love that, And
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that's something that I that I love about you, that curiosity. Like,
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Okay, well it's like a puzzle. You know. Our health is kind
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of like a puzzle because not everybody is the same everybody. We're all different.
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So if you're going to be like, oh, well your cholesterol is
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high, we're just gonna put you on this, Well, do you know
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why my cholesterol is high because my liver's sluggish will start there. My mom
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and my grandma had really high cholesterol, Like no questions are being asked,
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And I think that that's something that's really important for us moving forward in our
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healthcare. Like you said, to be our own advocates of our health and
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to take responsibility for the decisions that we make in our lifestyle. You know.
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Yeah, And I'll say too, you know, because diabetes also type
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two also gets this wrap of well it runs in my family, so I
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must be doomed. I'm gonna get it sure. And I'm also from the
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school of epigenetics, which is, you know, it's about the environment.
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Yes, we might have genetic tendencies within our lineage, but that's not set
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in stone, that's not your destiny because again, we're all unique. We're
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all surrounded with different environments. So what's happening in our life is turning things
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on and off in our genetic makeup. So which is why emotional stress,
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mental stress, physical stress can trigger these things to develop. So with polesterol,
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we can test for the familial hypercholesteremia because that is a specific genetic snip,
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but most of us it runs in the family because we have these historical
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ways that we eat that aren't great, and I'm so so yeah, I
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get it. Well, I'm from, you know, the land of the
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fruits and the nuts here in southern California, and I was fortunate with my
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parents that they were always very healthy. We were always very very very healthy
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family, outdoorsy, super active, you know. My whole family is like
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that. And then with my CRPS, what happened. You know, I
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haven't been able to be active like I used to. And then with pain,
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I ended up stopping eating. And then, as my listeners know,
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I started disordered eating. And then I've been dealing with that and it was
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like, oh my god, slippery slope. I'm trying to get myself better
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and the first thing I had to do is actually start feeding my body again.
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And I'm still I still don't have anybody guiding me on what I'm supposed
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to eat. It's just it's ridiculous. After the mountains of money that I've
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spent, how I'm still feel like I'm behind on the number one thing that
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I need to be great at, which is nutrition, and I just stink
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at it. Not because I don't know what to eat, I just don't
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want to do it. I don't want to do it. You don't want
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to do the eating, or you don't want to do the Oh, I
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don't want to do the eating. Yeah, yeah, it's the good stuff.
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I've always said, like I just want to take a pill in the
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morning, in the afternoon of the night, and I'm good. Like I'm
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not a foodie. I don't care when I go out to eat with people,
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I move my food around and make it look like I ate. It's
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good. It's good stuff, very healthy, very very healthy behavior. Well,
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I just think this illustrates how unique we are because so much of the
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rest of our culture is wrapped around food. And yeah, I mean how
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like we start with little kids of like we're using food as a reward or
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like bribing them or like rewarding them for a good job done. I mean,
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when I was on the swim team, we would get blowpops for if
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we could like how many laps down the pool we could go without a breath,
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or if you know, our relay one we would get you know,
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like just different things we would be rewarded. What's sugar? So, yeah,
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sounds like a great idea. Yeah, So no wonder that we get
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addicted from very early on, and then by the time we're even you know,
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like in our For me, it was in my thirties is when I
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actually started. And this is part of my journey that I don't talk about
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very much, actually is I was diagnosed with insulin resistance and I was like,
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uh uh, nope, not here, not happening. Because my grandmother
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died of complications of type two diabetes. So by the time she passed away,
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she was insulin dependent. Okay, now as a professional, and it's
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obviously as an adult, but really being able to own that I have power
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here. I don't have to just because I get a label of a diagnosis
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doesn't mean that that means I'm doomed for A B and C to happen,
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and and like there's no choice there, which a lot happens a lot in
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Western medicine, with a lot of different things, but very much so with
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diabetes. Oh, you're taught two diabetic, Okay, here's your pill,
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and you know you should expect in this many years that you're going to start
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losing feeling in your extremities. It's called neuropathy. And then in a few
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more years you're probably going to go into kidney failure. Oh, if you
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get an infection on one of those extremities and we can't you know, treat
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it, then we're gonna have to take it off. So you're gonna have,
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you know, like all these barbaric things that we still do. And
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no, no, it is not doesn't have to be that way. I
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love and it's a message of hope. And it's something that we talk about
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all the time around here, is hope because we have to have it.
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Yeah, and it's in it. It's so yeah. Western medicine just blows
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my mind. I mean it just it makes me so angry that we have
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spent so much money and so much time taking all of these pills and doing
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all of these things that have caused so much more damage. And I'm speaking
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for myself that it caused so much more damage and a lot of things that
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were really really scary. That doctors were giving me my first round with one
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of my billion doctors at usc Kech Medicine of all places, gave me one
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hundred and twenty milligrams of ketamine on my first dose. And I went on
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a fucking cable I wouldn't believe. And it was not fun and I'm like,
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I'm like one hundred and two pounds wet for crying out loud, and
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I'm like, you're giving me enough medication to knock out an elephant. Like
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there's just so much mismanagement and just I don't even It just infuriates me.
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And so it's so nice to have these conversations with people that are like minded
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in this department. I do believe that there is a place for Western medicine
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in our shild for sure, for sure, but when it comes to our
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day to day I don't yet. Western medicine is great for broken bones,
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for emergency surgeries, you know, if you have you know, a burst
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appendix or a rupture gallbladder or something like that that's going to cause systemic infection,
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we got to get that thing out. Great for that, Art surgery
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is even great, fantastic, But for chronic illness, no, they their
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definition of treat is, here's a medication that treats your symptoms, but it
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does not get anywhere near the root cause because that question is never even asked.
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So that's the big difference between Western medicine and functional medicine. For anybody
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out there, if you're new, is that functional medicine is a root cause
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approach. We want to know what's causing the inflammation, that's causing your symptoms,
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that's causing the disease state, and we want to get to that root
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and rebalance things. Your body wants to be in a state of homeostasis,
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which means balance. So even if you've been living in this state of imbalance
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for years and years and years, your body's actually trying every single day to
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get you back to balance. So we just have to help a little bit.
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Yeah, I need a little bit more help than some people, that's
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for sure. But I mean it's pretty unbelievable how we are. Like we
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said earlier, how you are curious, I'm also curious. This is we
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have to be asking people to ask us questions. Like I literally, when
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I go in and I meet yet a new doctor or a new whatever,
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I have a sheet that I have printed out that says all the medications I've
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tried, all of the things that it caused, the surgeries, I've had,
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stuff that happened to me when I was a little girl all the way
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through to adulthood. Like I give them a one sheet when I come into
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my first appointment, when I check in at the front desk with Whomeverville,
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and I'm like, please tell the doctor to read this before they come in
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and talk to me, because I don't want to go through this for the
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seven thousandth time. And they still don't even ask questions, and so I
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just stopped going to the doctors. It stopped. I was like, I'm
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not even going to do this anymore. I'm going to try to heal myself
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on my own. And that's how I started the show. And so here
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I am. The only reason I've gone to doctor has been for emergency purpose.
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That's it. Other than that, I haven't seen a doctor. But
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I am in the process of interviewing functional doctors here in southern California. Awesome
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because we need to interview them. They are people that are taking are supposed
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to be taking care of our bodies, and you have to have good synergy
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and good bedside manner. I need somebody that I can sit down next to
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and I can use the F word with, like, I mean, let's
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be real, Like I want to be able to be me, say what's
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happened, try like I always do whatever it is, and not feel judged
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and not feel like they're looking at their watch and they're ready. They're already
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one foot out the door, which is how I feel a lot of us,
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especially women, how we feel when we go to the doctor. Yeah.
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Absolutely, you definitely should be interviewing all your practitioners, and if you
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don't like the response that you get, go find another one. There's lots
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of them out there. There's so many. I mean, yeah, granted,
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like so most of us are working within the parameters of insurance, but
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still, even within that, there's a lot to choose from. So don't
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feel like you know that you don't have anywhere else to turn, because there
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there's a lot options. It might be exhausting and infuriating, but remember that
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you're choosing yourself, you're advocating for yourself, and that the discussion that happens
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in a practitioner's office should be just that, a discussion of you know,
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oh you know, I'm thinking about this treatment for you. This is the
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full explanation of it. What do you think? How does that feel to
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you? Whatever happened to true informed consent? I have no idea because I
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think you just caused a couple of car accidents right now. You are,
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like, what pull it on the off ramp just to listen to us,
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don't crash and burn. Yeah, for I don't know, Like COVID was
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a blessing and a curse in a lot of different ways, and everybody says
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it. I think one of the curses was that informed consent. Whatever we
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had left just went right off the damn window unfortunately. So yeah, and
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we were stuck with whatever we could get, that's for sure. But you
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kind of ramped up and your dedication to the diabetic side of things in your
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practice, because I know, she doesn't just talk, she doesn't just do
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diabetes, guys, she does all kinds of other things too. But we
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just wanted to focus on this a little bit more today. But that the
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diabetes epidemic. During the pandemic, you know, so how did you help
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people get through that? Because that's nuts. Well, I saw I was
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still working in the hospital full time at that point, and I just saw
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a you know, an untold number of people that were overweight dying at a
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higher proportion, and diabetics were dying at a higher rate also, And it
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was just so frustrating for me because these two things are completely preventable and reversible.
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Obesity is preventable reversible, so is diabetes. And I don't say that
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likely. I'm not blowing it off and telling you that it's easy. No,
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it can be if you want it to be. Again, that's a
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thought that we're having about the thing that's happening, and we can talk about
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how powerful our thoughts are, but but it is something that's possible, and
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that just even having that thought of, oh, this is possible for me
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to reverse, for me to get beyond, I think is super important and
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empowering for people to even like start there. Yeah, and I think talking
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about COVID, I don't want to spend too much time on COVID because I
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think all of us were like covided out. But during that stand of time,
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so many amazing things happened to us as a globe. But one of
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the things that I took away from it was that I really really needed to
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take care of myself more than I was, and so much of it was
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stress related, which is still still my biggest thing. But earlier you had
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mentioned a little bit ago about how it's our response to stress that is where
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I actually suck so many bags of you know what, because when something stressful
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comes into my world, I immediately respond in a negative way. I don't
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even know why, and I'm working on it within myself to figure out,
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like why am I doing that? Because I know that stress, along with
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diabetes and other health problems, obviously, we're so damn inflamed. And I
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want to talk about inflammation and how all of this kind of leads into what
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inflammation does to your body and our brains. Well, I want to I
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want to talk about that too, But I also want to go back to
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because you said I respond in a negative way, what does that mean for
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and look like for you? What is negative anger? Anger? Anger?
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Yep mm hmm yep. I lose or I just lose my mind and I
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just start sobbing and I go into bed for a little bit, and I'm
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like, all right, I got that out. We see that's actually good.
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Curious. Yeah, well we're talking about ladies and gentlemen. She literally
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just like put the kaibash on me and was like no, no, no,
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no, no, you're not getting away with that one. I love
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that, thank you. No problem. Well, it's because calling me out
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on my stuff, yee, it's how we frame things again like that labeling
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it negative is really a reflection of self judgment, and we all do it
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because actually it's actually really healthy to have emotions. So when we're not having
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the emotions, what are we doing having the thoughts? And then we're just
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shoving that shit in different parts of our body. It could be in our
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ovaries, it could be in our uterus, it could be in our pancreas,
24:07
it could be in our spine, you know, any of the places
24:10
where inflammation, pain, disease shows up in your body. That should be
24:15
if we know we're going to talk here about that connection between energetics and disease
24:18
manifestation, that should be the first place that you go to get curious,
24:22
like why, you know, what's my pattern? And it's a pattern,
24:26
it's something we learned along the way, So it just is a little bit
24:30
of takes a little bit of curiosity. The learning about ourselves part is the
24:33
scariest part of what I've been going through, certainly more recently than ever,
24:38
just because I'm working so damn hard to try to get my body to uncreate
24:44
what's been created, you know, and it's like baby steps. My stuff
24:49
started in my feet, and so for me, it's been moving upwards right
24:55
from my feet all the way up into full body crps. And so with
24:57
that being said, it's like, where do you start when your whole entire
25:02
body hurts, you know? And so I was always focusing on my feet,
25:06
and then I realized, I'm like, okay, well I've spent like
25:08
a billion dollars on shoes, none of which should have solved any problems,
25:15
you know. And so I started like with these little steps here, these
25:17
little things here, and then I just flipped my switch. And this is
25:19
very recent where I said, I'm going to start top box top down instead
25:23
of bottom up. And so with that, I wrote a list of,
25:27
like from my head all the way down to my feet, all of the
25:30
things that I needed to work on within myself that would be good for those
25:33
parts of my body. I have no idea why I started to do it
25:37
or how I came up with this idea, but I may have read it
25:38
somewhere, I don't know, but something that I just recently started doing,
25:41
and it's really it's a really interesting way for me because I'm a real like
25:45
list of things to do every single day, and even if I do something
25:48
that's not on my list, I write it on my list and then I
25:51
cross it off so I can see that I did all the things I add
25:53
to my list after I've even done them, and then so I can do
25:56
it. But it's something that's been really interesting for me to assess where my
26:00
priorities actually ended up being and it was not what I expected it to be.
26:04
And so there's just so many different tools that we can, you know,
26:07
that we can use to help ourselves. My thing is the self talk
26:11
for sure. Isn't that interesting? Yeah? Okay, so nobody steal that
26:15
right because that's now mine. I haven't named it yet, but it's going
26:21
to be some wild and crazy thing that's going to pop out in a year
26:22
or two. Nobody. It was just an interesting thing for me to take
26:26
some inventory of, like everything that's gone wrong with my health since I was
26:30
a little little girl, and how I did not feel safe in any of
26:36
the situations that I was ever in with my body and my health since I
26:38
was nine years old, never have and so I'm working through a lot of
26:42
that. Some of that's trauma, some of it's like, well I was
26:45
born with it, just like you were saying, like my appendix ruptured all
26:47
right, Well, that's not really because I did anything wrong, but you
26:48
know, it's just it's really interesting for me to see and dive into myself
26:53
and go, wow, these things in this timeline. When that happened,
26:57
when things were going wrong with my health, it was it's almost frightening that
27:00
I'm that I am as happy and go lucky and fabulous as I am when
27:06
you look at this. Do you know why? No, because you decided,
27:11
Yeah, you just wanted damn it, I'm going to be happy and
27:14
go lucky despite all this other ship. I'm so again like how powerful we
27:18
all are. We can just decide and it will be Yeah. So well,
27:26
now where do you want to go for it? Well, I can't
27:26
answer your question about the inflammation. I know, I know, and I
27:32
love the phrase circle back. It's like one of my favorite probably on my
27:34
tombstone. She always wanted to just circle back. So yeah, inflammation is
27:38
huge, especially in my life. And we're hearing the word. I mean,
27:41
it's just everywhere it is so rampant. Why is it so rampant?
27:45
And what the heck is going on with all of us? So let's start,
27:49
And I know that's a big that's a big goal because as you were
27:52
talking to like the the message came through to me too, that we need
27:57
to talk about this ellular imprint of both stress and trauma. I like,
28:03
I think obviously trauma is stressful, so we can call it stress, we
28:07
can call it whatever we want. But also this collective and familial and generational.
28:15
So yes, we're we're born pure energetic beings and happy little baby bodies,
28:22
right, and it doesn't take long at all before our parents and whoever
28:26
else. But I'm sure, maybe hopefully good intentions, we can make that
28:29
assumption. I don't know if that's whatever. We'll leave that there. They
28:34
start piglyon, you know, and they say, you know, don't do
28:37
this, don't do that, do this, do that, whether you want
28:40
to or not, show up this way, don't cry, don't talk,
28:45
don't yell, don't get angry, you know, all these things, and
28:48
before know it, we're like just like paralyzed, like scrunched up like little
28:53
beings. So I can't be a human right that blow up like a volcano.
28:57
Every now and then, whether it's with anger or tears or whatever.
29:02
Sometimes that people act out in violence because they just can't hold it in anymore
29:07
and I'm not saying violence is justified and just saying like this is part of
29:10
our process. So eventually this has a physical effect and the inflammation is both
29:18
cellular and chemical. And so it's a two part approach to how do we
29:23
address it. So one part is going in and doing that investigation and reloving
29:30
ourselves, reacknowledging and loving that inner child with intention, releasing any collective trauma,
29:41
stress, grief. Grief's a big one that I don't think gets processed
29:45
or talked about nearly. Shame. Shame is a big one. Yeah,
29:48
huge and huge, and this can be even said for things just because this
29:53
is what's happening right now, it's coming in front of mind. An example
29:56
would be like generational trauma, you know with the Jews throughout the Holocaust and
30:02
even before that. You know, like talk about generational trauma, and we
30:06
talk about things throughout our lineage too, to be aware. But this also
30:11
keeps it alive in our cellular structure, in our cellular vibration, because we're
30:15
all energetic vibrational beings. So what do we do? So it's a matter
30:21
of again being intentional and making the choice to release, let go. I
30:26
work a lot with the light on the energetic side of things. So connect
30:30
with source light, connect with that unconditional love that does exist in the universe.
30:34
I promise y'all it does. It's out there. It kind of makes
30:38
me sad when you were saying, like to fall in love with yourself again,
30:41
that baby or whatever. I don't have any recollection of loving myself.
30:48
I honestly don't know if I do either, if I was to be honest.
30:51
But that doesn't mean that we can't choose it now. And all the
30:56
things that you're doing and the searching and all those things our acts of self
31:00
love. So give yourself that credit too. Yeah, give yourself some grace
31:04
everybody. I have to say that to myself often because I I am my
31:10
worst enemy when it comes to judging, you know, And that's something that
31:14
self talk and all of that. You know. Like I was in I
31:15
have an infred sana and I use it religiously and every morning I'm in there
31:21
and I do you know, dung ung ung, I do my Whatever I'm
31:23
doing in there, Sometimes it's meditation, sometimes it's crying, sometimes it's singing.
31:29
Sometimes it's laying still, you know, doing some breathwork or what have
31:33
you. But man, it has been it has been a challenge to find
31:37
the person that I guess I feel like I was supposed to be and kind
31:42
of like kind of well recreate her. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right.
31:49
Yeah, because I've held myself back from a lot of opportunity because I
31:53
didn't feel like I was good enough or you know whatever, all that perfectionism
31:57
that is like my worst dad has always said, some of the most the
32:00
most wonderful things about you are absolutely the worst things about you, because I'm
32:07
such a challenge the Gemini and me or what have you. But I'm such
32:10
a challenge in that regard where I'm like, I'm a giving and loving and
32:14
all this, but I give and I love too much that I don't take
32:15
care of myself when I take care of everybody else. So it's like when
32:20
I did the flip. That's where my flip for which I was mentioning earlier,
32:23
where I started from my head down, that's where my I had to
32:25
do the flip where I decided I was going to choose me first instead of
32:30
everybody else. And so that flip didn't happen overnight. It's just been this
32:32
like gradual shift, and I decided the way that I was going to do
32:37
me over people was starting from my head down. So anyway, learning how
32:40
to say no with love boundaries have been the most empowering thing that I've done
32:46
though during this journey thus far. Yeah. Yeah, I've been like,
32:51
no was a complete and loving sentence. It is so wonderful. No,
32:57
I don't think so bad. But to go back to the what is so
33:05
you asked me about the physical inflammation. Why is it everywhere? Yeah?
33:07
So we if you think about our cells, I mean, we can think
33:12
about them as perfect little circles, even though they're really not. But we'll
33:15
just say, for the purpose of this biology class, little circles, you
33:21
know, cell membranes, and when they get inflamed, they get all crinkled
33:28
up and twisted. We'll just call it them. Why Why does that matter?
33:34
Because on the outside of our cells are all these receptors and these channels,
33:38
which is how nutrients get in, which is how electrons and our electrolytes
33:45
go in and out of the cell. That's actually how our muscles contract.
33:49
They call it proton gradients. So if your cells are all crinkly and twisted
33:53
and you know, gnarled up. Then your receptors aren't going to be available
34:00
to bind to all the things that it needs to to let the nutrients in,
34:04
which keeps the cell healthy. So this is also part of the problem
34:07
with diabetes. So the insulin resistance, so the glucose will be either overloaded
34:14
and your cell will be super saturated, so it's met it's load, and
34:17
now there's just extra floating around in your bloodstream. And that's when we have
34:21
hyperglycemia or those and or both. Really, the receptors are so misaligned and
34:30
damaged that they can't grab on to the glucose like they used to. So
34:34
what is the result. You have less in the cell, so the cell's
34:37
not fed and you have the extra floating through your bloodstream. Great, well,
34:40
I think my cells probably look like like a Christmas morning with all of
34:44
my Christmas wrapping paper just all thrown on the ground. That's my cells or
34:49
no, lindsay, let's talk more happy about it and say my cells are
34:52
healthy and round and plump and beautiful. We've already learned on this episode Guy's
34:58
self talk, because it is incredible, how are how powerful our mindset is?
35:04
I mean it truly is. Yeah, so what we say to ourselves
35:07
matters, but beyond that too, how we feel about what we say.
35:10
So when we're shifting to say the my cells are happy and plump, can
35:15
we feel what that will like? What would that feel like if your cells
35:17
were happy and plumping instead of if my cells are in hell instead of my
35:22
cldiers doing their job, what would it feel like if they were happy and
35:24
doing all the things that they're supposed to. I have lists of things that
35:29
I know what my cells would be doing if they were a little bit more
35:31
plump and happy. I can tell you that much right now. One maybe
35:35
being able to walk my dogs again. Yeah, that's literally on the top
35:38
of my list of things that I have to be able to accomplish. That's
35:40
so simple. That's just something so simple that we took. I took for
35:45
granted, and I took dancing for granted, and skiing for granted, yoga
35:47
for granted. I took all of it. And so when you step back
35:51
and you lose a lot of it, you're like, well, okay,
35:53
this is it. I'm just stuck with myself in my house and I can't
35:57
go and do anything. Oh of course not, Lindy. In the meantime,
36:00
going a wheelchair, go out and do a couple of five k's.
36:01
That's what I've been doing, you know. Nice. Yeah. So when
36:06
with when you're treating inflammation and diabetes and all the other things that you do
36:10
and do you work a lot with pain in relation to diabetes, particularly in
36:15
inflammation because I know with me, I live in pain, but I know
36:19
the underlying root causes of it. I do, which I finally it took
36:22
forever to get to it, but we now have it. Now it's like,
36:24
now what do I do? But do you help people in the pain
36:29
department when it comes to this, I do a lot of especially my diabetic
36:32
patients comes to me with the neuropathy complaints and that's one of their first questions
36:37
are like, yeah, yeah, with the diabetes, the blood sugar whatever,
36:42
can we get this neuropathy thing to stop? The aner is yes,
36:46
but it also there's a caveat usually it takes longer. And I say usually
36:52
because I don't I don't want to be one of those practitioners that like pigeonholes
36:55
any of my patients or clients into a timeline, because I do believe in
37:00
miraculous healing is possible, but it's possible when the receiver, when the patient,
37:07
when the person that's going through it believes it's possible for them. So
37:10
that's the other thing I say is you are your own best healer. So
37:15
I am even with when I'm doing an intuitive or raiki session, I am
37:19
the conduit, I am the spaceholder, I'm the channel, I'm the guide,
37:23
but I am not doing the work for you. You are your own
37:28
best healer, So damn it. No, it's actually great because you can't
37:32
complain that you can't find a healer. You're it. You're it. You're
37:37
it. And that's literally why I started the show in the first place,
37:39
because I was like, I've had it, I'm up to here. I'm
37:43
going to find people to help me heal because I know at the end of
37:45
the day, I'm at the end of the day, I'm the one behind
37:47
the wheel. That's it. Nobody else is driving this hot mess express over
37:52
here but me. Right well, And because a lot of people do say,
37:55
well, my doctor's driving this train or my group of doctors is driving
38:00
and but then they're like, but my doctors don't talk to each other.
38:04
That's exactly right. It's so stupid, very frustrating. Even as a practitioner.
38:08
It's frustrating because you know, a lot of times you're looking for information.
38:13
Well, if I just have this piece of information, I would know,
38:15
like you know, which which way to go next? So uh yeah.
38:21
So it's so great when people finally say, no, I'm the conductor,
38:24
I'm the one driving the train. Yeah, I'm going to be the
38:28
greatest showman. I'm going to be the one that's going to put on this
38:30
performance, not anybody else. And that's that's something that I also had to
38:36
learn. And I think we all kind of do, you know, no
38:37
matter what we're trying to get through. At the end of the day,
38:40
I mean, we lose people. We go through so many things in our
38:44
lives and we can only the only way that we're going to feel the way
38:46
that we're going to feel is because that's how that's that's us. It's our
38:49
choice, you know. And it's really hard to take your health into your
38:52
own hands sometimes because we feel, especially here in the United States, I
38:57
mean is from a healthcare perspective, I feel like we're we're constantly leaning on
39:01
having to go to a doctor in order to get healed, and I just
39:06
it's just just not that way. It's just not the case. And I
39:08
love the energy healing side of it. So I'd like to talk up.
39:12
I'd like to get into what you do in the energy space, because it
39:15
is I mean, we we're emotional people. Emotion is energy. You know,
39:20
all of this is we can feel. There's a reason why we feel.
39:22
We get the chills. I mean, we are this energetic force,
39:25
you know. Yeah, So we are beings of light. That is actually
39:30
a scientific fact. It's not wu wu when you start, because a lot
39:35
of people will go, well, great, here we go, here we
39:37
go with But one of the things that I like to do is bring the
39:39
science into the wu wu. So here, here we go. So we're
39:43
beings of light. We're actually made up of photons, which are particles of
39:45
light, and we are also made up of carbon, nitrogen, oxygen,
39:52
you know, all the different molecules that make up our DNA and our cells
39:57
and our cell structure and our organs. All of that is that's also what's
40:00
the universe is made up of, and the Earth and the stars and the
40:04
stardust. So we are stardust. There is more space within us, then
40:09
there is actual matter. So we are energetic, vibrating beings. And it's
40:15
actually an optical illusion that you and I are even looking at each other right
40:20
now if we want to get into like the crazy quantum, I kind of
40:23
do, because she's looking at my face slight now because my mouth is like
40:28
smiling with my mouth open at the same time. So yeah, because when
40:31
everyone's like, oh, light and spirit and source and all of that,
40:35
it's so confusing to some people that don't believe in it. When but I
40:39
like that you brought the word science into it because it is like, this
40:43
is a legitimate thing. But yeah, please talk about how our perception of
40:46
what we're seeing is talk about the stardust, which, yeah, so more
40:52
and more and more the science is actually reinforcing and supporting what we've known spiritually
40:58
for thousands and thousands of years. So you're a yogi, I'm a yogi.
41:02
We can start there. You know, like, that's a tradition that
41:07
is thousands of years old. They know that sound heels, they know that
41:14
movement and breath and postures heel. They you know, they didn't know why,
41:21
but now we're starting to understand even the concept of coherence versus dissonance.
41:27
So coherence is like if you look at a wave line. Coherence is like
41:30
if you have two wave lines, they're in sync with each other, like
41:35
they go up and down at the same time, and they're essentially doing everything
41:40
in parallel mirroring each other. Dissonance would be if you have one line going
41:45
up and down and then your next the parallel line is like crisscrossing it and
41:51
is like maybe like faster, taller, depending on your amplitude or frequency.
41:54
You know, they're not in sync. So what's happening in our body when
41:59
we have the inflammation is dissonance, so things are not in sync. This
42:02
is when you're in pain. Things are not in sync. When we're you
42:07
know, having a panic attack, or we're super depressed, or you know,
42:10
any of those things not in sync, we're in dissonance. But we
42:15
can create coherence just by centering ourselves and doing some deep breathing. It's not
42:22
complicated, it's very simple, but it's very powerful, and it is based
42:28
on age old practices that we are now being able to understand how they work
42:34
on the molecular and cellular level because of our scientific research. It does make
42:39
sense, but ocause I'm of course I'm thinking about like what my little chart
42:43
would look like right now of dissonance, and there's like lines going all over
42:46
the place. There's nothing running parallel. There's nothing running in sync at least
42:51
not. Okay, lindsay, we're gonna step back. We're not going to
42:53
say nothing. There are plenty of things that are working. There are just
42:57
a few things that are not right now that I've got to get big out
43:00
here. We all have our shit, we all have our shit, we
43:02
all have stuff to work on. So don't you dare think that you don't
43:06
have stuff to do for yourself and others. Okay, but it's it's that
43:10
the physical and energetic part of healing, they go hand in hand in my
43:15
in my view at least, because I find that when I do tapping or
43:19
I do things that are in energy work, I feel so much better.
43:23
It's unbelievable. But I also have had the experience. I did a couple
43:28
of different tapping sessions with this this gallop friend of my Lauren Fondelle. She
43:31
was on the show, but she's amazing, and I was like physically unable
43:37
to not stop crying. The following day after, like we unleash so much
43:42
emotion that needed to come out. Like I could not even function. I
43:45
was just laying on the couch crying. That was it. That's all I
43:46
did for the whole day. And she's like I texted her, She's like,
43:51
just let it go, Like, just keep letting it come out,
43:53
because we opened something that needed to come out, and then I wanted to
43:57
put the lid on it, right, And it was the put on the
44:00
lid that got you to where you are before that, right, So yeah,
44:04
we're always remembered too that where we are today did not get to be
44:07
that way overnight. So because we live in a time space continuum on this
44:14
planet, the planet Earth has the level of time with it. Not all
44:17
dimensions and realms have time, but this one does. And so what does
44:22
that mean. It means that we creation takes time, destruction takes time.
44:27
It doesn't mean it takes a lot of It has to take a lot of
44:29
time. But you know, again, you didn't get here overnight, and
44:32
you're not gonna normally reverse everything overnight. But again, like I believe in
44:37
miraculous healing too, So that's why I like, I don't want to like
44:42
put that out there too much because it is possible, but again, we
44:45
all have to believe that it's possible or oh absolutely, I believe that there
44:50
is a source energy out there. I believe that we are all souls and
44:55
we chose to incarnate here. But that also means that we're all connected and
45:01
that we'll sort of reconnect when we leave this life, and we may choose
45:08
to come back or not. Maybe some of us will choose to take a
45:10
break. I might need one break. I might just need one and then
45:15
I'm going to come back like Gangbusters. Yeah. But from those humans that
45:22
have had experiences quote with the other side, what the feedback is is that
45:29
we choose to incarnate here on this planet at this time so that we can
45:32
experience contrast, meaning the good the bad, so we can experience emotion,
45:38
so we can experience time, even because time does not exist across all realms
45:45
and so you the Earth is such a unique place and it presents us with
45:50
so many challenges. But really I'm starting to see it more as like a
45:54
challenge to remember who we are at our core, and we're light, We're
46:00
love, We're soul, We're source, we are source. Every single one
46:04
of us. So when it comes to healing and this angelic side of things,
46:10
this light, this source, how do you work in regards to helping
46:15
your clients heal through this energy work that you do? So a lot of
46:21
it is just a providing the safe space so people will be willing to allow
46:28
themselves to feel the feelings. Just like you said when you went through that
46:31
tapping with your practitioner or friend and the next day you had a huge emotional
46:36
release. Most of us don't want to allow ourselves to feel those feelings,
46:40
but we have to. We have to allow ourselves to feel the feelings because
46:45
the thing is is they're temporary. They're not going to stay around forever,
46:49
and if we let ourselves feel them, then they will move through us because
46:53
they are energy too. So the only thing constant in the on this planet
46:59
at this time time has changed. That's true with everything. That's another universal
47:02
truth. As Caroline Mace would say, truth with a big tea. It's
47:07
a big ta being trauma. Yeah, because that's a liar all the time.
47:13
Little teas and big teas Like my gosh, they're all just big.
47:16
I love I. She'll say, Now, are you guys ready this is
47:19
a This is a big truth, big tea, And I think that I
47:24
think that facing the truth is probably the hardest part of healing because at the
47:29
end of the day, you dan well know what you're doing wrong. I
47:30
mean honestly, Like, if you sit down and look, get yourself in
47:34
the mirror for just a second, go, I wonder why I put on
47:36
forty pounds. Well, maybe you should stop putting Carl's Junior burgers into your
47:38
mouth. Like there's so many things that we know that we're doing wrong and
47:42
we continue to doing. Like me, I'm like, you know, I
47:44
should probably stop drinking so much red wine. I'll do it tomorrow, you
47:46
know, And we do that, and then we put it off, and
47:50
we put it off, and we keep doing it. I'll do it tomorrow,
47:52
I'll do it tomorrow, you know, the next day. And that
47:52
procrastination over time has added up to unhealthy lifestyle choices, you know. And
47:59
so a lot of it, at least from my perspective, is from marketing
48:01
advertising in our culture, you know, because they make food look delicious and
48:06
they make drinking look amazing, you know, and you're you're smart, you're
48:09
sophisticated, you're thin, you're beautiful and you you're on your eighteenth martini,
48:14
but your panties are on your ankles in the bathroom with some random stranger.
48:17
That's not a good lifestyle choice, which can lead to problems with your health,
48:22
you know. And I can speak to that particular example because I've been
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there, and it's you know, when you make these choices in your life
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and then you beat yourself up about why they why they happened. You know,
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it's a lot that is just looking back at yourself as well, not
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saying that there aren't things that happened to us. Obviously, I'm the first
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one to say that I've had plenty of things happened to me that I were
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completely out of my control. But to circle back to our earlier part of
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our conversation, those those things come up and we can't we can't really we
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can't blame them. We have to come back and go, Okay, well
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that stuff happened, So now what we're just gonna sit in it. We're
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going to let it keep us sick. We're going to you know, have
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it get in the way of our relationships, our success, all of that,
49:02
because you just don't want to open up and let go. That's that's
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that's being stuck. Yeah. Well, there's a big part of it,
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that self forgiveness. So even though we made decisions and choices no matter how
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old we were, I was going to say when we were younger, but
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even if we're still doing it now, just being willing to forgive yourself and
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move forward. So there's a big, huge piece of that too. So
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when again, when someone comes to me and I work with them on just
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the energetic piece alone, I'm doing a lot of holding space and allowing the
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energy to go where it needs to go, and allowing the emotions that need
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to come up and out come up and out, and making sure that whoever,
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whether it's distance or in person, that they know they're in a safe
49:52
space and that knowing that whatever is coming up as for their highest and greatest
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good. I one hundred sent believe in that message and it's a good one
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to end us today with because it is a message of hope and we really
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like to do that around here. Yeah. Yay, way, oh my
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goodness. Okay, Well where can we find you online? So I am
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at doctor Lara May that's d R l A R A m A y on
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all the socials. I actually just joined TikTok yesterday. I know, you
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crazy woman. Well, someone said there's lots of doctors on TikTok, usual
50:34
it would be good for your practice. I'm like, okay, we'll see.
50:36
Yeah. Some people say go jump off a cliff as well, and
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so I guess you're just joining them too. I don't know, So we'll
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see. We'll see how it goes. But I'm mainly on Instagram, YouTube,
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Facebook, those are my main three. I'm going to see how the
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TikTok thing goes. I've got stay tuned. Oh yeah. My website is
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doctor Laramy dot com and so that's where pretty much my whole practice lives online.
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So you can find life coaching sessions, functional medicine programs, intuitive healing
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sessions. I have fun memberships that are extremely affordable. If you want to
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show up every month and just receive some reiki. That's what that's there for,
51:19
because I want to make it accessible for everyone to have a place to
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go to. I do seasonal detoxes as a like a quarterly membership, and
51:27
then I also do a monthly meal planning. I don't plan it well,
51:30
I guess I kind of do plan the meals for you. I provide you
51:32
a shopping list and recipes for the entire month, and then obviously, like
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you get to decide how that fits into your life. But then there's also
51:40
support every month, so live calls with that too, so you can bring
51:45
your questions and get coached and all that good stuff. I love it.
51:47
Thank you so much. That is wonderful. This has been so much fun
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with you, and I know we were kind of like going over there and
51:52
going over here and go to because we have so much that we want to
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talk about, because she's so holistic in what she does, and so we
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could have eighteen more episodes. We could have our own podcasts together just on
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this. Oh and we did. We could. I think we'd be just
52:06
talking randomly for hours and hours on end. Who knows. I mean we
52:09
could outline it out, you know. Yeah. Maybe. Well, thanks
52:15
again for being here with me. I appreciate it, and I have so
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much to learn from you. Even still after this episode of my I'm more
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curious than I was before we started. And that was the whole point.
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Yay, Well, thank you for having me. This has been a lot
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of fun. Yeah, no problem. I love having you. Yeah,
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I will just say two more things. If you want to learn to be
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a practitioner yourself. I also teach raki and channeling. And then I do
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have a retreat coming up. I'm not sure when this will be published,
52:45
but I'm co facilitating. I guess it's the word a retreat to Balie in
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February of twenty twenty four. We're calling it a self love retreat because it
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culminates around that holiday with all the and the followers. What do you call
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oh Valentine's Saint m yep, So it's created for all us to spend bgs
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of money that they're unnecessary. Come love yourself in Bali instead. Oh my
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god, I would totally that. My Sweeten and I don't do anything on
53:15
those kind of days. We're like, every day's Valentine's Day. Why do
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we need to have an actual Valentine's Day? Yeah, we're so goody and
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gross. Hey, like four times I'm out for dinner seriously, Yeah,
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with a bunch of people like getting engaged or breaking up. Who knows what's
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happening on Valentine's Day. I'm her a whole moment, always entertaining, No,
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get it well, Thanks again for being here with us. You can
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find her at doctor Laura May dot com and follow her on all of the
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socials. Thanks again, girl, and I will be in touch with you
53:44
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