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Growing Through Grief With Jo Beth · Skirts Up!

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  Hey,
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  you.
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  You're
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  tuned
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  in
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  to
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  the
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  Skirts
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  up
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  show
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  with
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  Samantha
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  and
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  Melissa.
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  Join
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  our
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  mission
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  to
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  normalize
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  failure,
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  but
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  still
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  uncover
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  the
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  positives
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  at
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  every
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  twist
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  and
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  turn.
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  Skirts
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  up,
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  but
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  keep
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  your
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  panties
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  on.
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  What's
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  up,
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  Skirts
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  up
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  squad?
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  It's
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  Samantha
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  and
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  Melissa.
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  We're
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  back
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  for
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  another
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  episode
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  on
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  Mental
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  Health
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  Awareness
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  Month.
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  So
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  today
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  we
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  share
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  a
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  conversation
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  that
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  we
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  had
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  with
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  Jo
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  Beth,
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  who
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  really,
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  we
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  have
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  a
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  serious
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  yet
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  humorous
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  conversation
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  with
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  her
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  about
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  grieving.
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  And
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  it's
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  just
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  really
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  educational
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  and,
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  like,
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  you
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  don't
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  feel
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  like
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  you're
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  alone,
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  which
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  actually
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  what
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  everyone
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  should
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  know
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  is
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  that
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  we
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  have
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  Jobeth
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  as
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  an
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  affiliate
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  now.
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  So
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  if
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  you
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  guys
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  feel
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  like
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  you
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  need
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  help
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  and
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  guidance
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  and
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  grief
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  and.
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  And
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  you're
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  ready
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  to
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  just
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  tackle
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  on
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  how
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  to,
• 1:00
  you
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  know,
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  handle
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  your
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  new
• 1:02
  life,
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  because
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  you're
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  not
• 1:03
  going
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  to
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  be
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  the
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  same
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  after
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  grief.
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  Whether
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  it's
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  grief
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  because
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  you
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  lost
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  a
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  dog
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  or
• 1:08
  grief
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  because
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  you
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  lost
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  a
• 1:09
  human,
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  a
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  leg,
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  it's
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  all
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  the
• 1:12
  same.
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  And
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  she's
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  there
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  to
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  really
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  help
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  you.
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  Grab
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  you
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  by
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  the
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  hand
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  and
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  get
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  you
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  through
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  in
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  a
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  positive
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  way
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  and
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  not
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  letting
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  you
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  sit
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  there.
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  That's
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  right.
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  She's
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  very
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  big
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  on,
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  like,
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  not
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  actually
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  just
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  sitting
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  in
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  it.
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  We
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  can
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  take
• 1:27
  steps
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  to
• 1:28
  climb
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  out
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  of
• 1:29
  the
• 1:29
  hole
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  that
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  we're
• 1:30
  in.
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  But
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  when
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  you
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  say
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  she's
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  an
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  affiliate,
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  tell
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  us
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  more.
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  You
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  guys
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  can
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  find
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  a
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  link
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  to
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  her
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  business
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  and
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  what
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  she
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  does
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  in
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  our
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  little
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  description
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  or
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  on
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  our
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  website.
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  And
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  when
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  you
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  click
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  on
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  that,
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  you
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  fill
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  out
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  this
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  form.
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  And
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  on
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  the
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  form,
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  it
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  gives
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  an
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  option
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  of,
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  how
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  did
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  you
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  find
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  her?
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  Why
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  are
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  you
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  booking
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  with
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  her?
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  And
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  you
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  just
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  type
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  in
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  skirts
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  up
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  and
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  she's
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  going
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  to
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  take
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  care
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  of
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  you?
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  Amazingly,
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  yes.
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  With.
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  With
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  a
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  little
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  discount.
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  So
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  be
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  sure
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  to
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  book
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  through
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  us.
• 2:02
  That's
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  right.
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  Melissa.
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  It's
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  fail
• 2:10
  time.
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  What
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  you
• 2:11
  got?
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  Okay,
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  so
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  I
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  guess
• 2:15
  my
• 2:15
  fail
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  right
• 2:16
  now
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  is
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  just
• 2:17
  like,
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  all
• 2:17
  of
• 2:17
  the
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  stuff
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  that
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  I'm
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  going
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  through.
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  So
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  you
• 2:21
  guys
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  know
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  that
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  I'm
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  filing
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  for
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  divorce.
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  So
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  there
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  was
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  like,
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  life
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  is
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  going
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  really
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  fast.
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  I
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  went
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  and
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  talked
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  to
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  the
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  lawyer.
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  I
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  paid
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  the,
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  you
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  know,
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  retainer
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  and
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  all
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  that
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  stuff.
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  And
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  then
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  she's
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  like,
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  yeah,
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  we'll
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  probably
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  serve
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  him
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  this
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  week.
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  Well,
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  he
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  never
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  got
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  served.
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  I
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  never
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  heard
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  anything.
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  And
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  I
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  was
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  just
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  kind
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  of,
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  like,
• 2:44
  going
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  on
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  with
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  my
• 2:44
  life.
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  And
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  suddenly
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  I
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  realized,
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  you
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  know
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  what?
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  It's
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  been
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  a
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  minute.
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  I
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  think
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  it's
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  been
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  a
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  couple
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  weeks.
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  So
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  I
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  called
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  them
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  up,
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  and
• 2:51
  I
• 2:51
  was
• 2:51
  like,
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  hey,
• 2:52
  I
• 2:52
  think
• 2:52
  I
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  came
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  in
• 2:53
  a
• 2:53
  couple
• 2:53
  weeks
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  ago,
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  just
• 2:54
  wanted
• 2:54
  to
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  know
• 2:55
  where
• 2:55
  would
• 2:55
  the
• 2:55
  stat.
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  What
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  the
• 2:56
  status
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  Was.
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  And
• 2:57
  she's
• 2:57
  like,
• 2:57
  well,
• 2:57
  when
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  did
• 2:58
  you
• 2:58
  come
• 2:58
  in?
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  And
• 2:59
  it
• 2:59
  turned
• 2:59
  out
• 2:59
  it
• 2:59
  has
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  been
• 3:00
  over
• 3:00
  a
• 3:01
  month.
• 3:02
  And
• 3:03
  I
• 3:03
  was
• 3:03
  just
• 3:03
  like,
• 3:04
  I
• 3:04
  just
• 3:04
  didn't
• 3:04
  realize
• 3:05
  because,
• 3:05
  you
• 3:06
  know,
• 3:06
  when
• 3:06
  life
• 3:06
  is
• 3:06
  happening
• 3:07
  so
• 3:07
  fast.
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  So
• 3:09
  she's
• 3:09
  like,
• 3:10
  oh,
• 3:10
  no,
• 3:10
  it's
• 3:10
  been
• 3:10
  almost
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  a
• 3:11
  month.
• 3:11
  Let
• 3:11
  me
• 3:12
  get
• 3:12
  your
• 3:13
  attorney
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  to
• 3:14
  call
• 3:14
  you.
• 3:14
  So
• 3:15
  call
• 3:15
  you
• 3:15
  back.
• 3:15
  And
• 3:16
  so
• 3:16
  she
• 3:16
  called
• 3:17
  me
• 3:17
  and
• 3:17
  she's
• 3:18
  like,
• 3:18
  I
• 3:18
  am
• 3:18
  so
• 3:18
  sorry.
• 3:19
  I've
• 3:19
  been
• 3:19
  in
• 3:19
  court.
• 3:20
  I
• 3:20
  just.
• 3:20
  It
• 3:20
  did.
• 3:21
  I
• 3:21
  dropped
• 3:21
  the
• 3:21
  ball
• 3:22
  a
• 3:22
  little
• 3:22
  bit.
• 3:22
  And
• 3:23
  she's
• 3:23
  like,
• 3:23
  okay,
• 3:24
  so
• 3:24
  did
• 3:24
  you
• 3:25
  get
• 3:25
  your
• 3:25
  things
• 3:25
  from
• 3:25
  the
• 3:25
  house?
• 3:26
  And
• 3:26
  I
• 3:26
  was
• 3:26
  like,
• 3:29
  no,
• 3:29
  because
• 3:30
  I've
• 3:30
  been
• 3:30
  putting
• 3:30
  it
• 3:30
  off.
• 3:31
  It's
• 3:31
  so
• 3:31
  stressful.
• 3:32
  It's
• 3:32
  so
• 3:32
  stressful
• 3:34
  going
• 3:34
  to
• 3:35
  that
• 3:35
  house
• 3:36
  even
• 3:36
  when
• 3:36
  he's
• 3:36
  not
• 3:37
  there.
• 3:37
  It's
• 3:37
  just
• 3:37
  depressing
• 3:38
  for
• 3:38
  me.
• 3:39
  And
• 3:40
  so
• 3:41
  I
• 3:41
  have
• 3:41
  been
• 3:41
  putting
• 3:42
  it
• 3:42
  off.
• 3:42
  And
• 3:42
  she's
• 3:43
  like.
• 3:43
  I
• 3:43
  said,
• 3:43
  no,
• 3:43
  I
• 3:44
  haven't.
• 3:44
  And
• 3:44
  she's
• 3:44
  like,
• 3:45
  oh,
• 3:45
  no,
• 3:45
  I
• 3:45
  really
• 3:45
  thought
• 3:45
  you
• 3:46
  would
• 3:46
  have
• 3:46
  done
• 3:46
  that
• 3:46
  by
• 3:46
  now.
• 3:47
  She's
• 3:47
  like,
• 3:47
  go
• 3:47
  get
• 3:48
  your
• 3:48
  stuff
• 3:48
  and
• 3:49
  then
• 3:49
  we'll
• 3:49
  get
• 3:49
  back
• 3:50
  in
• 3:50
  touch
• 3:50
  and.
• 3:51
  And
• 3:51
  we'll
• 3:51
  do
• 3:52
  the.
• 3:52
  Do
• 3:53
  the
• 3:53
  serving
• 3:53
  or
• 3:53
  whatnot.
• 3:54
  So.
• 3:55
  So
• 3:56
  now
• 3:56
  you
• 3:56
  can
• 3:56
  get
• 3:56
  back
• 3:56
  in
• 3:57
  touch
• 3:57
  though,
• 3:57
  right?
• 3:58
  Yep.
• 3:58
  This
• 3:58
  weekend
• 3:59
  I
• 3:59
  went
• 3:59
  and
• 3:59
  got
• 3:59
  all
• 3:59
  my
• 3:59
  stuff.
• 4:00
  I
• 4:00
  had
• 4:00
  some
• 4:01
  friends
• 4:01
  helping
• 4:01
  me
• 4:01
  and
• 4:03
  I
• 4:03
  did
• 4:03
  it.
• 4:04
  So
• 4:05
  I
• 4:06
  guess
• 4:06
  it's
• 4:06
  a
• 4:06
  success.
• 4:06
  Not
• 4:07
  just
• 4:07
  you
• 4:07
  can
• 4:07
  do
• 4:07
  hard
• 4:08
  things.
• 4:08
  Yeah,
• 4:09
  that.
• 4:09
  Thank
• 4:09
  you.
• 4:11
  Yeah.
• 4:11
  So
• 4:12
  I'm
• 4:12
  going
• 4:12
  to
• 4:12
  email
• 4:13
  the.
• 4:14
  Well,
• 4:14
  look
• 4:14
  over
• 4:15
  like,
• 4:15
  the
• 4:16
  paperwork
• 4:16
  she
• 4:16
  sent
• 4:17
  me
• 4:17
  and
• 4:17
  just
• 4:17
  say
• 4:17
  yes
• 4:18
  or
• 4:18
  no.
• 4:18
  This
• 4:18
  is.
• 4:18
  This
• 4:19
  looks
• 4:19
  good.
• 4:19
  And
• 4:19
  then.
• 4:21
  Yeah,
• 4:21
  we're
• 4:22
  going
• 4:22
  to
• 4:22
  do
• 4:22
  it.
• 4:22
  This
• 4:23
  whole
• 4:23
  process,
• 4:24
  I
• 4:24
  will
• 4:24
  say,
• 4:24
  has
• 4:25
  gone
• 4:25
  so
• 4:25
  fast
• 4:26
  for
• 4:26
  you.
• 4:26
  Like,
• 4:26
  it
• 4:26
  went
• 4:27
  from.
• 4:28
  I
• 4:28
  mean,
• 4:28
  I
• 4:28
  won't
• 4:28
  say
• 4:28
  zero
• 4:29
  because
• 4:29
  I
• 4:29
  feel
• 4:29
  like
• 4:29
  this
• 4:30
  has
• 4:30
  been
• 4:30
  a
• 4:30
  slow
• 4:31
  burn,
• 4:31
  like,
• 4:32
  build
• 4:32
  up.
• 4:32
  Yeah.
• 4:33
  But
• 4:34
  I
• 4:34
  would
• 4:34
  say
• 4:35
  with
• 4:35
  that
• 4:35
  being
• 4:35
  said,
• 4:35
  we
• 4:36
  probably,
• 4:36
  like,
• 4:37
  you
• 4:37
  were
• 4:37
  starting
• 4:37
  at
• 4:37
  like
• 4:37
  a
• 4:37
  three
• 4:38
  and
• 4:38
  it
• 4:38
  went
• 4:38
  from
• 4:39
  three
• 4:40
  to
• 4:41
  nine
• 4:42
  in
• 4:42
  like
• 4:42
  a
• 4:42
  day.
• 4:43
  Like,
• 4:43
  yeah,
• 4:43
  you're
• 4:44
  still
• 4:44
  living
• 4:44
  at
• 4:44
  home
• 4:44
  and
• 4:45
  things
• 4:45
  are
• 4:45
  fine
• 4:45
  to.
• 4:45
  All
• 4:46
  of
• 4:46
  a
• 4:46
  sudden,
• 4:46
  like,
• 4:47
  just
• 4:47
  out
• 4:48
  of
• 4:48
  the
• 4:48
  blue,
• 4:48
  I
• 4:49
  can't
• 4:49
  even
• 4:49
  live
• 4:49
  at
• 4:49
  home.
• 4:50
  I'm
• 4:50
  not
• 4:50
  safe.
• 4:50
  So
• 4:51
  it's.
• 4:52
  Your
• 4:53
  last
• 4:53
  two
• 4:53
  months
• 4:53
  have
• 4:54
  literally
• 4:54
  been
• 4:56
  on
• 4:56
  the
• 4:56
  go
• 4:56
  on
• 4:57
  fire
• 4:57
  nonstop.
• 4:58
  Like,
• 4:58
  yeah,
• 5:00
  it's
• 5:00
  been
• 5:00
  wild.
• 5:01
  You're
• 5:01
  right.
• 5:02
  And
• 5:02
  we
• 5:02
  can
• 5:03
  talk
• 5:03
  about
• 5:03
  it
• 5:03
  too.
• 5:03
  Right
• 5:04
  now
• 5:04
  I.
• 5:05
  I'm
• 5:05
  actually
• 5:06
  surprised
• 5:06
  I'm
• 5:06
  even
• 5:07
  like
• 5:07
  saying,
• 5:07
  oh,
• 5:08
  yeah,
• 5:08
  I'm
• 5:08
  filing
• 5:09
  and
• 5:09
  Brett's
• 5:09
  going
• 5:09
  to
• 5:09
  get
• 5:10
  served.
• 5:10
  Like,
• 5:10
  that's.
• 5:11
  That
• 5:11
  right
• 5:11
  there
• 5:12
  is
• 5:12
  kind
• 5:12
  of
• 5:12
  hard
• 5:12
  to
• 5:12
  say
• 5:13
  out
• 5:13
  loud,
• 5:13
  but
• 5:13
  it's
• 5:14
  happening.
• 5:15
  So
• 5:15
  I
• 5:16
  guess
• 5:17
  it's
• 5:18
  just
• 5:18
  nice
• 5:18
  to
• 5:18
  Be
• 5:18
  able
• 5:18
  to
• 5:18
  have
• 5:19
  the
• 5:19
  support
• 5:19
  that
• 5:19
  I've
• 5:19
  had.
• 5:20
  Everybody
• 5:20
  has
• 5:20
  been
• 5:21
  so
• 5:21
  amazing
• 5:22
  and
• 5:22
  so
• 5:22
  kind
• 5:22
  and
• 5:23
  patient
• 5:23
  with
• 5:24
  me,
• 5:25
  so.
• 5:26
  Yeah.
• 5:26
  Well,
• 5:27
  I'm
• 5:27
  excited
• 5:27
  for
• 5:27
  everyone
• 5:28
  to
• 5:28
  hear
• 5:28
  in
• 5:29
  a
• 5:29
  couple
• 5:29
  of
• 5:29
  weeks
• 5:29
  when
• 5:30
  you
• 5:30
  talk
• 5:30
  about,
• 5:31
  you
• 5:32
  know,
• 5:32
  deeper
• 5:32
  into
• 5:32
  your
• 5:33
  past
• 5:33
  and
• 5:33
  stuff
• 5:34
  and
• 5:34
  how
• 5:35
  it
• 5:35
  affected
• 5:35
  you
• 5:36
  and
• 5:36
  the.
• 5:36
  How
• 5:36
  things
• 5:37
  like
• 5:37
  this
• 5:37
  affected
• 5:37
  you
• 5:38
  in
• 5:38
  the
• 5:38
  past
• 5:38
  versus
• 5:39
  how
• 5:39
  they're
• 5:39
  affecting
• 5:39
  you
• 5:40
  now,
• 5:40
  because
• 5:40
  it.
• 5:41
  It's
• 5:41
  a
• 5:41
  huge
• 5:41
  difference,
• 5:42
  and
• 5:42
  it's
• 5:42
  literally
• 5:43
  a
• 5:44
  show
• 5:45
  of
• 5:45
  how
• 5:45
  much
• 5:45
  you've
• 5:45
  grown
• 5:46
  to
• 5:46
  be
• 5:46
  able
• 5:46
  to
• 5:46
  accept
• 5:47
  and
• 5:47
  handle
• 5:47
  things
• 5:47
  as
• 5:48
  they
• 5:48
  come
• 5:48
  and
• 5:48
  be
• 5:49
  able
• 5:49
  to
• 5:49
  confidently
• 5:50
  say,
• 5:50
  this
• 5:50
  is
• 5:50
  happening.
• 5:51
  But
• 5:51
  you
• 5:51
  know
• 5:51
  what?
• 5:51
  It's
• 5:51
  for
• 5:52
  the
• 5:52
  best,
• 5:52
  like.
• 5:52
  Cause
• 5:53
  it
• 5:53
  is
• 5:53
  for
• 5:53
  the
• 5:53
  best,
• 5:53
  like.
• 5:53
  And
• 5:54
  you
• 5:54
  know
• 5:54
  that.
• 5:55
  Yeah,
• 5:55
  that's
• 5:56
  true.
• 5:56
  Yeah.
• 5:56
  Thank
• 5:57
  you.
• 5:57
  That's
• 5:58
  true.
• 5:58
  It
• 5:58
  is.
• 5:59
  So,
• 6:00
  yeah,
• 6:00
  it
• 6:00
  went
• 6:01
  really
• 6:01
  fast
• 6:01
  from
• 6:01
  zero.
• 6:02
  Like
• 6:02
  you
• 6:02
  said.
• 6:02
  It's.
• 6:03
  It
• 6:03
  was
• 6:03
  a
• 6:03
  slow
• 6:04
  burn
• 6:04
  for
• 6:04
  a
• 6:04
  long
• 6:04
  time.
• 6:05
  I
• 6:05
  think
• 6:05
  it's
• 6:05
  one
• 6:06
  of
• 6:06
  those
• 6:06
  things
• 6:06
  when
• 6:06
  a
• 6:06
  woman
• 6:07
  decides
• 6:07
  she's
• 6:08
  decided,
• 6:09
  and
• 6:09
  so
• 6:09
  it
• 6:09
  was
• 6:09
  like
• 6:09
  I
• 6:10
  was
• 6:10
  thinking
• 6:10
  about
• 6:10
  it
• 6:10
  for
• 6:11
  a
• 6:11
  long
• 6:11
  time.
• 6:11
  I
• 6:11
  just.
• 6:11
  I'm
• 6:12
  not
• 6:12
  happy.
• 6:13
  Um,
• 6:13
  and
• 6:14
  then
• 6:14
  once
• 6:14
  I
• 6:14
  decided,
• 6:16
  I.
• 6:16
  I
• 6:17
  had
• 6:17
  to.
• 6:17
  I
• 6:17
  had
• 6:17
  to
• 6:17
  make
• 6:18
  moves,
• 6:19
  so.
• 6:19
  Yeah.
• 6:20
  Well,
• 6:20
  I'm
• 6:20
  proud
• 6:21
  of
• 6:21
  you.
• 6:21
  Thank
• 6:21
  you.
• 6:22
  Necessary.
• 6:23
  And
• 6:24
  we
• 6:24
  were.
• 6:25
  A
• 6:25
  lot
• 6:25
  of
• 6:25
  us
• 6:25
  were
• 6:26
  worried
• 6:26
  about
• 6:26
  you
• 6:26
  for
• 6:26
  a
• 6:27
  hot
• 6:27
  minute,
• 6:27
  so
• 6:28
  I'm
• 6:28
  really
• 6:28
  glad
• 6:28
  that
• 6:29
  you
• 6:29
  felt
• 6:30
  comfortable
• 6:30
  enough
• 6:30
  to
• 6:31
  just
• 6:31
  rip
• 6:31
  the
• 6:31
  band
• 6:32
  aid
• 6:32
  off.
• 6:33
  Thank
• 6:33
  you.
• 6:33
  Thank
• 6:34
  you.
• 6:35
  So
• 6:36
  here
• 6:36
  we
• 6:36
  are.
• 6:36
  And
• 6:37
  I
• 6:37
  want
• 6:37
  to
• 6:37
  say,
• 6:37
  too,
• 6:38
  I
• 6:38
  feel
• 6:38
  like
• 6:38
  I
• 6:38
  can
• 6:38
  only
• 6:39
  do
• 6:39
  it
• 6:39
  because
• 6:40
  of
• 6:40
  everybody
• 6:40
  around
• 6:40
  me,
• 6:41
  so
• 6:41
  thank
• 6:42
  you.
• 6:43
  And
• 6:43
  where
• 6:43
  you've
• 6:44
  been
• 6:44
  and
• 6:44
  where
• 6:44
  you
• 6:44
  are
• 6:44
  now.
• 6:46
  That's
• 6:46
  right.
• 6:47
  Thank
• 6:48
  you
• 6:48
  so
• 6:48
  much.
• 6:49
  Thank
• 6:49
  you.
• 6:50
  Thank
• 6:50
  you.
• 6:52
  Thank
• 6:52
  you
• 6:52
  very
• 6:52
  much.
• 6:52
  Did
• 6:53
  you
• 6:53
  bow?
• 6:54
  I
• 6:54
  did.
• 6:54
  I
• 6:55
  was
• 6:55
  like.
• 6:58
  Oh,
• 6:59
  my
• 6:59
  God,
• 6:59
  I
• 6:59
  can't.
• 7:00
  My
• 7:00
  fail,
• 7:01
  I
• 7:01
  feel
• 7:01
  like,
• 7:01
  is
• 7:01
  super
• 7:02
  depressing.
• 7:02
  So
• 7:02
  I'm
• 7:02
  gonna
• 7:03
  keep
• 7:03
  it,
• 7:03
  like,
• 7:03
  really
• 7:03
  short
• 7:03
  and
• 7:03
  fast
• 7:04
  because
• 7:04
  we're
• 7:04
  actually
• 7:04
  gonna
• 7:05
  brush
• 7:05
  on
• 7:05
  it
• 7:06
  in
• 7:06
  the
• 7:06
  episode
• 7:07
  today.
• 7:07
  We
• 7:07
  do.
• 7:08
  So
• 7:09
  I.
• 7:10
  It
• 7:10
  was.
• 7:11
  Was
• 7:11
  it
• 7:12
  Melissa?
• 7:12
  Remind
• 7:12
  me.
• 7:13
  It
• 7:13
  was.
• 7:13
  So
• 7:14
  Ada
• 7:14
  died
• 7:15
  on
• 7:15
  a
• 7:15
  Sunday,
• 7:16
  and
• 7:16
  then
• 7:16
  it
• 7:17
  was
• 7:17
  that
• 7:17
  following
• 7:18
  Wednesday.
• 7:19
  Right.
• 7:19
  That
• 7:20
  I
• 7:20
  accidentally.
• 7:21
  I
• 7:21
  think.
• 7:21
  So,
• 7:22
  like,
• 7:22
  it
• 7:22
  was.
• 7:22
  It
• 7:23
  was.
• 7:23
  It
• 7:23
  was.
• 7:24
  It
• 7:24
  was
• 7:24
  within
• 7:25
  the
• 7:25
  next
• 7:25
  week.
• 7:25
  Yeah,
• 7:26
  for
• 7:26
  sure.
• 7:27
  Okay.
• 7:28
  So
• 7:28
  after
• 7:29
  a
• 7:29
  few
• 7:29
  days
• 7:29
  after
• 7:30
  Ada
• 7:30
  died,
• 7:31
  I.
• 7:31
  You
• 7:32
  guys
• 7:32
  know,
• 7:32
  I
• 7:32
  was
• 7:32
  having
• 7:32
  a
• 7:33
  really,
• 7:33
  really
• 7:33
  hard
• 7:33
  time.
• 7:33
  I
• 7:33
  still
• 7:34
  have
• 7:34
  a
• 7:34
  hard
• 7:34
  time
• 7:36
  when
• 7:36
  I.
• 7:37
  I
• 7:37
  finally
• 7:37
  wrote
• 7:37
  for
• 7:38
  the
• 7:38
  first
• 7:38
  time
• 7:38
  in
• 7:38
  one
• 7:39
  of
• 7:39
  my
• 7:39
  pen
• 7:39
  pal
• 7:39
  letters
• 7:40
  about
• 7:40
  what
• 7:40
  happened
• 7:40
  to
• 7:40
  her
• 7:41
  yesterday
• 7:42
  and,
• 7:43
  like,
• 7:43
  bawling
• 7:43
  like,
• 7:44
  the
• 7:44
  rest
• 7:44
  of
• 7:44
  the
• 7:44
  day.
• 7:44
  So
• 7:45
  it's
• 7:45
  still
• 7:46
  really
• 7:46
  hard.
• 7:47
  Yeah,
• 7:48
  it
• 7:48
  is
• 7:48
  hard.
• 7:51
  Obviously,
• 7:52
  because
• 7:52
  I'm
• 7:52
  gonna
• 7:52
  start
• 7:52
  crying
• 7:53
  again,
• 7:53
  but
• 7:54
  she's
• 7:54
  your
• 7:55
  baby.
• 7:57
  Okay,
• 7:59
  so.
• 7:59
  Yeah,
• 8:00
  you
• 8:00
  guys
• 8:00
  know
• 8:00
  that.
• 8:00
  I,
• 8:00
  I
• 8:01
  think
• 8:01
  you
• 8:01
  guys
• 8:01
  know
• 8:01
  that
• 8:01
  I
• 8:01
  used
• 8:01
  to
• 8:02
  take
• 8:02
  Delta
• 8:02
  eights
• 8:02
  to
• 8:03
  help
• 8:03
  me
• 8:03
  sleep.
• 8:03
  But
• 8:03
  then
• 8:04
  when
• 8:04
  the
• 8:04
  seizure
• 8:04
  started,
• 8:05
  I
• 8:05
  stopped
• 8:06
  using
• 8:06
  it
• 8:07
  because
• 8:07
  they
• 8:07
  said,
• 8:07
  hey,
• 8:08
  there's
• 8:08
  been
• 8:09
  some
• 8:10
  things
• 8:10
  noticed
• 8:11
  that
• 8:11
  long
• 8:11
  term
• 8:12
  use
• 8:12
  of
• 8:12
  the
• 8:12
  Deltas
• 8:13
  can
• 8:13
  lead
• 8:13
  to
• 8:14
  seizures,
• 8:16
  psychosis,
• 8:17
  just
• 8:17
  random
• 8:18
  psychological
• 8:19
  things.
• 8:19
  And
• 8:19
  so
• 8:20
  we
• 8:20
  were
• 8:20
  like,
• 8:20
  okay,
• 8:20
  well
• 8:20
  let's
• 8:21
  not
• 8:21
  risk
• 8:21
  it,
• 8:21
  let's
• 8:21
  stop
• 8:22
  using
• 8:22
  that.
• 8:22
  And
• 8:23
  they
• 8:23
  put
• 8:23
  me
• 8:23
  on
• 8:23
  like
• 8:24
  Trazodone.
• 8:24
  So
• 8:25
  that
• 8:25
  was
• 8:25
  a
• 8:26
  supplement
• 8:26
  that
• 8:26
  helped
• 8:26
  me
• 8:26
  sleep.
• 8:27
  And
• 8:27
  then
• 8:27
  I
• 8:27
  no
• 8:27
  longer
• 8:27
  needed
• 8:28
  the
• 8:28
  Delta
• 8:28
  8s.
• 8:29
  But
• 8:29
  when
• 8:30
  Ada
• 8:30
  died,
• 8:32
  I
• 8:32
  was,
• 8:33
  I
• 8:33
  wasn't
• 8:33
  sleeping
• 8:34
  well
• 8:35
  and
• 8:37
  I,
• 8:38
  I
• 8:38
  don't
• 8:38
  think
• 8:39
  I
• 8:39
  was
• 8:39
  trying
• 8:40
  to.
• 8:41
  I
• 8:41
  don't
• 8:42
  think
• 8:42
  I
• 8:42
  was
• 8:42
  looking
• 8:42
  to
• 8:43
  necessarily
• 8:43
  knock
• 8:44
  myself
• 8:44
  out.
• 8:44
  I
• 8:45
  think
• 8:45
  I
• 8:45
  was
• 8:45
  looking
• 8:45
  for
• 8:46
  something
• 8:46
  to
• 8:46
  kind
• 8:46
  of
• 8:47
  like
• 8:47
  numb
• 8:48
  the
• 8:49
  mind
• 8:49
  and
• 8:50
  maybe
• 8:50
  the
• 8:50
  emotions.
• 8:51
  And
• 8:52
  so
• 8:52
  I
• 8:52
  was
• 8:53
  like,
• 8:54
  well,
• 8:55
  you
• 8:55
  know,
• 8:55
  getting
• 8:55
  high
• 8:56
  helps.
• 8:57
  And
• 8:57
  so
• 8:57
  I.
• 8:58
  Yeah,
• 8:59
  there's
• 8:59
  upper
• 8:59
  time.
• 9:00
  I
• 9:00
  know,
• 9:01
  I.
• 9:02
  And
• 9:02
  that
• 9:02
  you
• 9:02
  needed
• 9:03
  it.
• 9:03
  Like
• 9:03
  you
• 9:03
  felt
• 9:04
  like
• 9:04
  you
• 9:04
  needed
• 9:04
  it.
• 9:04
  But
• 9:05
  yeah,
• 9:05
  it
• 9:05
  sounds
• 9:05
  bad,
• 9:06
  but
• 9:06
  it
• 9:06
  wasn't
• 9:06
  even
• 9:06
  like
• 9:07
  I,
• 9:07
  I
• 9:07
  took
• 9:07
  it
• 9:07
  responsibly.
• 9:08
  I
• 9:09
  took
• 9:09
  it,
• 9:09
  it
• 9:09
  was
• 9:09
  a
• 9:10
  night
• 9:10
  time,
• 9:10
  it
• 9:10
  was
• 9:11
  at
• 9:11
  bedtime.
• 9:11
  And
• 9:12
  usually
• 9:12
  when
• 9:13
  I
• 9:13
  was
• 9:13
  taking
• 9:13
  it
• 9:13
  regularly,
• 9:14
  I
• 9:14
  would
• 9:14
  take
• 9:14
  a
• 9:15
  whole
• 9:16
  gummy.
• 9:16
  And
• 9:17
  I
• 9:17
  was
• 9:17
  like,
• 9:17
  well,
• 9:17
  I
• 9:18
  haven't
• 9:18
  taken
• 9:18
  it
• 9:18
  in
• 9:19
  probably
• 9:19
  like
• 9:20
  over,
• 9:20
  I
• 9:20
  mean,
• 9:21
  two
• 9:21
  years
• 9:21
  maybe.
• 9:22
  And
• 9:22
  so
• 9:22
  I
• 9:22
  was
• 9:22
  like,
• 9:22
  oh,
• 9:22
  I'll
• 9:23
  take
• 9:23
  a
• 9:23
  half.
• 9:23
  And
• 9:24
  so
• 9:24
  I
• 9:24
  only
• 9:24
  had
• 9:24
  a
• 9:25
  half
• 9:25
  and
• 9:26
  it
• 9:27
  knocked
• 9:27
  me
• 9:28
  out.
• 9:28
  Like
• 9:28
  literally
• 9:29
  I
• 9:29
  slipped,
• 9:29
  slept
• 9:30
  that
• 9:30
  night
• 9:31
  through
• 9:31
  the
• 9:31
  whole
• 9:32
  entire
• 9:32
  next
• 9:32
  day
• 9:33
  into
• 9:34
  the
• 9:34
  next
• 9:34
  morning.
• 9:35
  And
• 9:36
  when
• 9:36
  I
• 9:36
  woke
• 9:36
  up,
• 9:36
  I
• 9:36
  was
• 9:37
  still
• 9:37
  high
• 9:37
  and
• 9:38
  had
• 9:38
  to
• 9:38
  like
• 9:38
  work
• 9:38
  off
• 9:39
  the
• 9:39
  high
• 9:40
  throughout
• 9:41
  that
• 9:41
  day.
• 9:41
  And
• 9:41
  I
• 9:42
  was
• 9:42
  like,
• 9:42
  man,
• 9:43
  that
• 9:44
  is
• 9:44
  not
• 9:45
  okay.
• 9:45
  That
• 9:45
  is
• 9:46
  not
• 9:46
  good.
• 9:47
  And
• 9:47
  so
• 9:48
  I
• 9:48
  know
• 9:48
  it
• 9:48
  wasn't
• 9:48
  okay.
• 9:49
  I
• 9:49
  know
• 9:49
  it
• 9:49
  wasn't
• 9:49
  good.
• 9:49
  So
• 9:50
  I'm
• 9:50
  not
• 9:50
  doing
• 9:50
  it
• 9:50
  again.
• 9:51
  But
• 9:51
  grief,
• 9:52
  you
• 9:53
  know,
• 9:54
  made
• 9:54
  it
• 9:54
  happen.
• 9:54
  Grief
• 9:55
  will
• 9:55
  make
• 9:55
  you.
• 9:56
  Yeah.
• 9:57
  Lack
• 9:57
  of
• 9:57
  judgment.
• 9:58
  So.
• 9:59
  And
• 10:01
  what.
• 10:02
  No,
• 10:02
  I.
• 10:02
  Maybe
• 10:03
  you
• 10:03
  were
• 10:03
  about
• 10:03
  to
• 10:03
  say
• 10:03
  what
• 10:04
  I
• 10:04
  was
• 10:04
  gonna
• 10:04
  say.
• 10:04
  I
• 10:04
  was
• 10:04
  gonna
• 10:04
  say.
• 10:05
  And
• 10:05
  we
• 10:05
  find
• 10:05
  out
• 10:05
  later
• 10:06
  because
• 10:07
  when
• 10:07
  we
• 10:07
  were
• 10:07
  talking
• 10:08
  to
• 10:08
  her
• 10:08
  that
• 10:08
  it's
• 10:09
  actually
• 10:09
  quite
• 10:09
  normal.
• 10:10
  Yeah.
• 10:10
  And
• 10:11
  I
• 10:11
  was
• 10:11
  really
• 10:11
  glad
• 10:11
  that
• 10:11
  she
• 10:12
  said
• 10:12
  that.
• 10:12
  And
• 10:12
  another
• 10:12
  thing
• 10:13
  that
• 10:13
  Jobeth
• 10:13
  says,
• 10:14
  and
• 10:14
  I
• 10:14
  can't
• 10:14
  remember
• 10:14
  if
• 10:14
  she
• 10:14
  says
• 10:15
  it
• 10:15
  in
• 10:15
  the
• 10:15
  episode
• 10:16
  or
• 10:16
  if
• 10:17
  it
• 10:17
  was
• 10:17
  when
• 10:18
  we
• 10:18
  were
• 10:18
  doing
• 10:19
  our
• 10:19
  pre
• 10:20
  episode
• 10:21
  plus
• 10:21
  planning
• 10:22
  session.
• 10:25
  She
• 10:25
  basically
• 10:26
  says
• 10:27
  that.
• 10:30
  Oh,
• 10:30
  how
• 10:31
  exactly
• 10:31
  did
• 10:31
  she
• 10:31
  say
• 10:31
  it?
• 10:32
  Because
• 10:32
  it
• 10:32
  was
• 10:32
  like
• 10:32
  really?
• 10:32
  It
• 10:33
  really,
• 10:33
  really
• 10:33
  helped.
• 10:35
  Basically
• 10:35
  she
• 10:36
  just
• 10:36
  normalizes
• 10:37
  and
• 10:37
  like
• 10:37
  acknowledges
• 10:38
  that
• 10:40
  I
• 10:40
  minimized
• 10:41
  it
• 10:41
  being
• 10:41
  a
• 10:41
  dog.
• 10:42
  I
• 10:42
  mean,
• 10:42
  you'll
• 10:43
  learn
• 10:43
  how
• 10:44
  Jo
• 10:44
  Beth,
• 10:44
  like,
• 10:44
  what
• 10:45
  happened
• 10:45
  to
• 10:45
  her
• 10:45
  and
• 10:45
  how
• 10:46
  she
• 10:46
  built
• 10:46
  this
• 10:47
  business,
• 10:47
  and,
• 10:48
  you
• 10:48
  know,
• 10:48
  why
• 10:48
  she
• 10:49
  is
• 10:49
  who
• 10:49
  she
• 10:50
  is.
• 10:50
  And
• 10:51
  I
• 10:51
  was
• 10:51
  like,
• 10:52
  oh,
• 10:52
  well,
• 10:53
  my
• 10:53
  dog
• 10:54
  just
• 10:54
  died.
• 10:54
  And,
• 10:55
  you
• 10:55
  know,
• 10:55
  I'm
• 10:56
  sorry
• 10:56
  about
• 10:56
  yours.
• 10:56
  And
• 10:57
  she
• 10:57
  goes,
• 10:57
  way
• 10:58
  worse.
• 10:59
  Yes,
• 10:59
  yes.
• 11:00
  I
• 11:00
  literally
• 11:00
  did
• 11:00
  that.
• 11:01
  And
• 11:01
  she's
• 11:01
  like,
• 11:02
  no,
• 11:02
  it's
• 11:02
  not
• 11:02
  a
• 11:03
  comparison.
• 11:03
  She
• 11:03
  was
• 11:04
  like,
• 11:04
  it's.
• 11:04
  It's
• 11:04
  the
• 11:04
  same
• 11:04
  thing.
• 11:05
  Like,
• 11:05
  that
• 11:05
  dog
• 11:05
  was
• 11:06
  with
• 11:06
  you
• 11:06
  all
• 11:06
  through
• 11:07
  your
• 11:07
  20s
• 11:08
  into
• 11:08
  your
• 11:08
  30s.
• 11:09
  So,
• 11:09
  like,
• 11:09
  was
• 11:10
  literally
• 11:10
  growing
• 11:10
  up
• 11:11
  with
• 11:11
  you
• 11:12
  into
• 11:12
  adulthood.
• 11:13
  And
• 11:13
  I
• 11:13
  was
• 11:13
  like,
• 11:13
  yeah,
• 11:14
  you're
• 11:14
  right.
• 11:16
  It's
• 11:16
  one
• 11:16
  of
• 11:16
  the
• 11:16
  lines
• 11:17
  that
• 11:17
  you're
• 11:17
  going
• 11:17
  to
• 11:17
  hear
• 11:17
  her
• 11:18
  say.
• 11:18
  But
• 11:18
  it
• 11:18
  stuck
• 11:19
  with
• 11:19
  me
• 11:19
  since
• 11:20
  we've
• 11:20
  talked
• 11:20
  to
• 11:20
  her,
• 11:21
  and
• 11:21
  she
• 11:21
  said
• 11:21
  grief
• 11:22
  is
• 11:22
  felt
• 11:23
  at
• 11:23
  100%,
• 11:24
  and
• 11:24
  it
• 11:24
  doesn't
• 11:25
  matter
• 11:25
  who,
• 11:25
  like,
• 11:26
  what
• 11:26
  it
• 11:26
  was.
• 11:26
  You're
• 11:27
  still
• 11:27
  feeling
• 11:27
  it
• 11:27
  at
• 11:28
  100%.
• 11:28
  And
• 11:28
  you
• 11:29
  can't
• 11:29
  compare
• 11:29
  it
• 11:29
  to.
• 11:30
  It's
• 11:31
  100%
• 11:31
  grief.
• 11:32
  Yeah.
• 11:33
  I
• 11:33
  thought
• 11:33
  that
• 11:33
  was
• 11:34
  really
• 11:34
  interesting
• 11:34
  because
• 11:35
  it's
• 11:35
  easy
• 11:35
  to
• 11:35
  try
• 11:35
  to
• 11:35
  say,
• 11:36
  well,
• 11:36
  it
• 11:36
  couldn't
• 11:36
  have
• 11:36
  been
• 11:36
  as
• 11:36
  bad
• 11:37
  as
• 11:37
  so
• 11:37
  and
• 11:37
  so's.
• 11:38
  Yeah.
• 11:39
  So.
• 11:39
  But
• 11:40
  don't
• 11:40
  be
• 11:40
  scared
• 11:40
  to
• 11:40
  listen
• 11:40
  to
• 11:40
  this
• 11:41
  episode.
• 11:41
  We
• 11:41
  really
• 11:42
  do
• 11:42
  tackle
• 11:42
  it
• 11:43
  tactfully,
• 11:44
  but
• 11:45
  with,
• 11:45
  you
• 11:45
  know,
• 11:46
  our
• 11:46
  usual
• 11:46
  humor.
• 11:47
  So
• 11:47
  it
• 11:47
  really
• 11:47
  is.
• 11:49
  It's
• 11:49
  a
• 11:49
  good
• 11:49
  episode.
• 11:50
  She's
• 11:50
  so
• 11:50
  funny.
• 11:51
  I
• 11:51
  love
• 11:51
  her.
• 11:51
  And
• 11:52
  you
• 11:52
  guys
• 11:52
  will
• 11:52
  do.
• 11:54
  Yeah,
• 11:54
  she's
• 11:55
  great.
• 11:55
  So,
• 11:56
  Jo
• 11:56
  Beth.
• 12:05
  We
• 12:05
  are
• 12:05
  Skirts
• 12:06
  up
• 12:06
  women
• 12:07
  empowering
• 12:07
  and
• 12:07
  supporting
• 12:08
  women.
• 12:09
  We
• 12:09
  are
• 12:10
  helping
• 12:10
  each
• 12:10
  other,
• 12:10
  and
• 12:11
  that's
• 12:11
  exactly
• 12:12
  what
• 12:12
  we
• 12:12
  are
• 12:12
  doing
• 12:12
  today.
• 12:13
  This
• 12:13
  is
• 12:13
  a
• 12:13
  safe
• 12:13
  space
• 12:14
  to
• 12:14
  talk
• 12:14
  about
• 12:14
  hard
• 12:15
  stuff
• 12:15
  and.
• 12:16
  All
• 12:16
  right.
• 12:17
  Introduce
• 12:18
  yourself
• 12:18
  and
• 12:18
  what
• 12:18
  you
• 12:19
  do
• 12:19
  and
• 12:20
  how
• 12:20
  you
• 12:21
  got
• 12:22
  into
• 12:22
  this.
• 12:22
  Yeah.
• 12:23
  My
• 12:23
  name
• 12:24
  is
• 12:24
  Jo
• 12:24
  Beth
• 12:24
  Evans.
• 12:25
  I
• 12:25
  am
• 12:25
  remarried,
• 12:26
  so
• 12:26
  I'm
• 12:26
  actually
• 12:27
  getting
• 12:27
  ready
• 12:27
  to
• 12:27
  change
• 12:27
  my
• 12:27
  name.
• 12:28
  So
• 12:28
  I'll
• 12:28
  be
• 12:28
  Jo
• 12:28
  Beth
• 12:29
  Paulie.
• 12:30
  But
• 12:30
  I
• 12:31
  do.
• 12:31
  Thank
• 12:31
  you.
• 12:32
  But
• 12:32
  I
• 12:33
  do.
• 12:33
  Yes.
• 12:33
  No,
• 12:33
  it's
• 12:34
  like.
• 12:34
  It's
• 12:34
  one
• 12:34
  of
• 12:34
  the
• 12:35
  best
• 12:35
  things
• 12:35
  that.
• 12:35
  That's
• 12:35
  ever
• 12:35
  happened
• 12:36
  in
• 12:36
  my
• 12:36
  life.
• 12:37
  So
• 12:38
  I
• 12:38
  do
• 12:38
  exactly
• 12:38
  what
• 12:38
  you
• 12:39
  guys
• 12:39
  are
• 12:39
  talking
• 12:39
  about
• 12:39
  is
• 12:40
  empowering
• 12:40
  other
• 12:40
  women.
• 12:41
  But
• 12:41
  I
• 12:41
  take
• 12:42
  them.
• 12:42
  I
• 12:42
  usually
• 12:43
  get
• 12:43
  them
• 12:43
  when
• 12:43
  they
• 12:44
  are
• 12:44
  in
• 12:44
  the
• 12:44
  deepest
• 12:44
  pit
• 12:45
  of
• 12:45
  their
• 12:45
  grief.
• 12:46
  I
• 12:46
  always
• 12:46
  kind
• 12:46
  of
• 12:46
  use
• 12:47
  the
• 12:47
  imagery
• 12:47
  that,
• 12:48
  like,
• 12:49
  you
• 12:49
  know,
• 12:49
  when
• 12:49
  you're
• 12:50
  in
• 12:50
  the
• 12:50
  deep
• 12:51
  darkness
• 12:51
  of
• 12:52
  grief,
• 12:52
  like,
• 12:52
  you're
• 12:53
  down
• 12:53
  in
• 12:53
  this
• 12:53
  hole,
• 12:53
  this
• 12:53
  dark
• 12:54
  hole,
• 12:54
  and,
• 12:54
  like,
• 12:54
  I'm
• 12:54
  the
• 12:55
  person
• 12:55
  that's
• 12:55
  reaching
• 12:56
  down
• 12:56
  and
• 12:57
  pulling
• 12:57
  you
• 12:57
  up
• 12:57
  into
• 12:58
  the
• 12:58
  light.
• 12:58
  And
• 12:58
  I'm
• 12:58
  showing
• 12:59
  you
• 12:59
  that
• 12:59
  there's.
• 13:00
  There's
• 13:00
  a.
• 13:01
  There's.
• 13:01
  There
• 13:01
  is
• 13:01
  light.
• 13:02
  There
• 13:02
  is
• 13:03
  something
• 13:03
  good
• 13:03
  that
• 13:04
  can
• 13:04
  come
• 13:04
  from
• 13:04
  this.
• 13:05
  Like,
• 13:05
  you
• 13:05
  don't
• 13:05
  have
• 13:05
  to
• 13:06
  do
• 13:06
  it
• 13:06
  alone.
• 13:07
  Definitely
• 13:08
  A
• 13:08
  hype
• 13:08
  girl.
• 13:09
  I'm
• 13:09
  not
• 13:09
  the
• 13:10
  person
• 13:10
  who
• 13:10
  always
• 13:10
  say,
• 13:11
  like,
• 13:11
  I'm
• 13:11
  not
• 13:11
  going
• 13:11
  to
• 13:11
  sit
• 13:11
  in
• 13:11
  your
• 13:12
  poopy
• 13:12
  diaper
• 13:12
  with
• 13:12
  you.
• 13:13
  I'm
• 13:13
  going
• 13:14
  to.
• 13:15
  We're
• 13:15
  going
• 13:15
  to
• 13:15
  acknowledge
• 13:16
  your
• 13:16
  grief.
• 13:16
  Like,
• 13:16
  we
• 13:17
  do
• 13:17
  that.
• 13:17
  It's
• 13:17
  not
• 13:17
  like
• 13:17
  the
• 13:17
  worst,
• 13:18
  like,
• 13:18
  ah,
• 13:18
  forget
• 13:18
  it,
• 13:19
  or
• 13:19
  anything
• 13:19
  like
• 13:19
  that.
• 13:19
  But
• 13:19
  it's
• 13:20
  like
• 13:20
  you
• 13:20
  have
• 13:20
  people
• 13:20
  in
• 13:20
  your
• 13:21
  life
• 13:21
  that
• 13:21
  know
• 13:21
  how
• 13:21
  to
• 13:21
  do
• 13:22
  sad
• 13:22
  with
• 13:23
  you.
• 13:23
  Like,
• 13:23
  they're
• 13:23
  familiar
• 13:24
  with
• 13:24
  that.
• 13:24
  They
• 13:24
  can
• 13:24
  do
• 13:24
  that.
• 13:25
  They
• 13:25
  can,
• 13:25
  you
• 13:26
  know,
• 13:26
  be
• 13:26
  there
• 13:26
  with
• 13:26
  you.
• 13:27
  I'm
• 13:27
  there
• 13:27
  to
• 13:28
  pull
• 13:28
  you
• 13:28
  up
• 13:28
  out
• 13:28
  of
• 13:28
  it.
• 13:29
  So
• 13:29
  I
• 13:29
  play
• 13:29
  a
• 13:29
  different
• 13:29
  role
• 13:30
  in
• 13:30
  your
• 13:30
  life,
• 13:31
  but
• 13:31
  really
• 13:31
  giving
• 13:31
  you
• 13:32
  the
• 13:32
  tools
• 13:32
  and
• 13:32
  the
• 13:32
  support
• 13:32
  and
• 13:33
  everything
• 13:33
  you
• 13:33
  need
• 13:33
  to,
• 13:33
  like,
• 13:34
  totally
• 13:34
  transition.
• 13:35
  And,
• 13:35
  you
• 13:35
  know,
• 13:36
  we're
• 13:36
  looking
• 13:36
  at
• 13:36
  identity
• 13:37
  shifts
• 13:37
  a
• 13:38
  lot
• 13:38
  of
• 13:38
  times
• 13:38
  of,
• 13:38
  like,
• 13:39
  going
• 13:39
  from
• 13:39
  this
• 13:39
  victim
• 13:40
  to,
• 13:40
  like,
• 13:40
  golly,
• 13:41
  I'm
• 13:41
  a
• 13:41
  victor,
• 13:42
  like,
• 13:42
  this
• 13:42
  terrible
• 13:42
  thing
• 13:43
  happened.
• 13:43
  But,
• 13:43
  like,
• 13:43
  I
• 13:43
  can
• 13:44
  take
• 13:44
  it
• 13:44
  and
• 13:44
  do
• 13:44
  something
• 13:44
  really
• 13:45
  great
• 13:45
  with
• 13:45
  it
• 13:45
  and
• 13:45
  really,
• 13:46
  really
• 13:46
  have
• 13:46
  an
• 13:47
  impact
• 13:47
  on
• 13:47
  the
• 13:47
  world.
• 13:47
  And
• 13:47
  I
• 13:48
  think
• 13:48
  that
• 13:49
  that
• 13:49
  is
• 13:49
  the
• 13:50
  best
• 13:50
  thing
• 13:50
  we
• 13:50
  can
• 13:50
  do
• 13:51
  when
• 13:51
  we
• 13:51
  lose
• 13:51
  somebody
• 13:52
  to
• 13:52
  honor
• 13:53
  their
• 13:53
  life
• 13:53
  is
• 13:53
  to
• 13:54
  go
• 13:54
  live
• 13:54
  a
• 13:55
  full
• 13:55
  life
• 13:55
  with
• 13:56
  purpose.
• 13:57
  And
• 13:57
  I
• 13:57
  think
• 13:57
  a
• 13:58
  lot
• 13:58
  of
• 13:58
  times
• 13:58
  people
• 13:58
  think
• 13:59
  that
• 13:59
  staying
• 13:59
  in
• 13:59
  their
• 13:59
  grief
• 14:00
  and
• 14:00
  not
• 14:00
  moving
• 14:01
  forward,
• 14:02
  moving
• 14:02
  forward,
• 14:02
  not
• 14:03
  moving
• 14:03
  on,
• 14:03
  not
• 14:03
  forgetting,
• 14:04
  but
• 14:04
  moving
• 14:04
  forward.
• 14:05
  Like,
• 14:05
  there's
• 14:05
  like,
• 14:07
  that
• 14:07
  they're
• 14:07
  somehow
• 14:08
  honoring
• 14:08
  their
• 14:08
  loved
• 14:09
  one
• 14:09
  that
• 14:09
  way.
• 14:09
  And
• 14:09
  I
• 14:10
  disagree.
• 14:10
  I
• 14:10
  think
• 14:11
  that
• 14:11
  our
• 14:11
  loved
• 14:12
  ones
• 14:12
  would
• 14:12
  want
• 14:12
  us
• 14:12
  to
• 14:12
  go
• 14:12
  live
• 14:13
  a
• 14:13
  full,
• 14:14
  wonderful
• 14:14
  life
• 14:15
  and
• 14:16
  honor
• 14:16
  them
• 14:16
  in
• 14:16
  that
• 14:17
  way.
• 14:17
  And
• 14:17
  so
• 14:17
  I
• 14:18
  give
• 14:18
  people
• 14:18
  the
• 14:18
  tools
• 14:18
  and
• 14:19
  the
• 14:19
  love
• 14:19
  and
• 14:19
  the
• 14:19
  support
• 14:19
  and
• 14:20
  the
• 14:20
  community
• 14:20
  to
• 14:20
  be
• 14:20
  able
• 14:20
  to
• 14:21
  do
• 14:21
  that.
• 14:22
  And
• 14:22
  I'm
• 14:22
  very
• 14:23
  much,
• 14:23
  like
• 14:23
  I
• 14:23
  said,
• 14:23
  a
• 14:23
  hype
• 14:24
  girl.
• 14:24
  Pull
• 14:24
  you
• 14:24
  up.
• 14:25
  Like,
• 14:26
  I'm
• 14:26
  gonna
• 14:26
  be
• 14:26
  there
• 14:27
  with
• 14:27
  you.
• 14:27
  Like,
• 14:27
  no,
• 14:28
  not
• 14:28
  today.
• 14:28
  Because
• 14:28
  there's
• 14:29
  a
• 14:29
  lot
• 14:29
  of
• 14:29
  times
• 14:29
  that
• 14:30
  you
• 14:30
  don't
• 14:30
  want
• 14:30
  to
• 14:30
  get
• 14:30
  up
• 14:30
  out
• 14:31
  of
• 14:31
  bed.
• 14:31
  You
• 14:31
  don't
• 14:31
  want
• 14:31
  to
• 14:31
  live.
• 14:32
  And
• 14:32
  I'm
• 14:32
  there
• 14:32
  to
• 14:32
  tell
• 14:33
  you
• 14:33
  that
• 14:33
  you
• 14:33
  got
• 14:33
  a
• 14:33
  reason
• 14:34
  to,
• 14:34
  right?
• 14:35
  Yeah.
• 14:35
  We're
• 14:35
  getting
• 14:35
  out.
• 14:36
  And
• 14:36
  you're
• 14:36
  not
• 14:36
  wrong,
• 14:37
  though,
• 14:37
  because
• 14:37
  I
• 14:37
  know
• 14:38
  that
• 14:39
  I
• 14:39
  have
• 14:40
  not
• 14:40
  experienced
• 14:41
  grief,
• 14:42
  like
• 14:42
  a
• 14:42
  death
• 14:43
  that's
• 14:44
  really
• 14:44
  close
• 14:45
  to
• 14:45
  me
• 14:45
  until
• 14:45
  my
• 14:45
  dog
• 14:46
  died.
• 14:47
  And
• 14:47
  I
• 14:47
  remember,
• 14:48
  like,
• 14:48
  you
• 14:48
  know,
• 14:48
  people
• 14:49
  around
• 14:49
  me
• 14:49
  would
• 14:49
  have
• 14:49
  a
• 14:50
  death.
• 14:50
  And
• 14:51
  I
• 14:51
  literally
• 14:52
  don't
• 14:52
  know
• 14:53
  how
• 14:53
  to
• 14:54
  be
• 14:54
  there
• 14:54
  for
• 14:54
  you
• 14:54
  because
• 14:54
  I
• 14:54
  don't
• 14:55
  know
• 14:55
  what
• 14:55
  it
• 14:55
  feels
• 14:55
  like.
• 14:55
  And
• 14:56
  I
• 14:56
  don't
• 14:56
  know.
• 14:56
  So
• 14:57
  I
• 14:57
  can
• 14:57
  your
• 14:58
  sadness,
• 14:58
  but
• 14:58
  I
• 14:58
  don't
• 14:58
  know
• 14:59
  what
• 14:59
  to
• 14:59
  do
• 14:59
  about
• 14:59
  it.
• 14:59
  And
• 15:00
  so
• 15:00
  I
• 15:00
  feel
• 15:01
  like.
• 15:02
  I
• 15:03
  feel
• 15:03
  like
• 15:03
  what's
• 15:04
  beautiful
• 15:04
  is
• 15:04
  that
• 15:04
  you
• 15:05
  are
• 15:05
  that
• 15:05
  person
• 15:06
  who's
• 15:06
  there
• 15:06
  and
• 15:06
  able
• 15:06
  to,
• 15:07
  you
• 15:08
  know,
• 15:08
  how
• 15:08
  to
• 15:08
  help
• 15:09
  people
• 15:09
  through
• 15:09
  It.
• 15:09
  Yeah.
• 15:10
  And
• 15:10
  I
• 15:10
  think
• 15:10
  you're,
• 15:10
  like,
• 15:11
  in
• 15:11
  a.
• 15:11
  A
• 15:11
  large
• 15:11
  pool
• 15:12
  of
• 15:12
  people
• 15:12
  that,
• 15:12
  like,
• 15:13
  you're
• 15:13
  like,
• 15:14
  I
• 15:14
  love
• 15:14
  you,
• 15:15
  but
• 15:15
  I
• 15:15
  don't
• 15:15
  really
• 15:15
  know
• 15:15
  what
• 15:16
  to
• 15:16
  do
• 15:16
  for
• 15:16
  you.
• 15:17
  And,
• 15:18
  yeah,
• 15:18
  nobody
• 15:19
  does.
• 15:19
  And
• 15:19
  as.
• 15:19
  As
• 15:20
  somebody
• 15:20
  who's
• 15:20
  went
• 15:20
  through
• 15:20
  something
• 15:20
  terrible,
• 15:21
  like,
• 15:21
  people
• 15:21
  say
• 15:22
  the
• 15:22
  wrong
• 15:22
  thing,
• 15:24
  and
• 15:24
  there's
• 15:24
  not
• 15:24
  a
• 15:24
  lot
• 15:24
  of
• 15:25
  things
• 15:25
  that
• 15:25
  are
• 15:25
  the
• 15:25
  right
• 15:25
  thing
• 15:26
  to
• 15:26
  say,
• 15:26
  because
• 15:26
  everybody
• 15:27
  wants
• 15:27
  to
• 15:27
  say
• 15:27
  something
• 15:27
  that
• 15:28
  makes
• 15:28
  you
• 15:28
  feel
• 15:28
  better.
• 15:28
  Right.
• 15:29
  You're
• 15:29
  like,
• 15:29
  what
• 15:29
  can
• 15:29
  I
• 15:29
  say
• 15:30
  to
• 15:30
  this
• 15:30
  person
• 15:30
  to
• 15:30
  make
• 15:30
  them
• 15:30
  feel
• 15:30
  better?
• 15:31
  Puts
• 15:31
  a
• 15:31
  lot
• 15:32
  of
• 15:32
  power
• 15:32
  that
• 15:33
  you
• 15:33
  think
• 15:33
  you
• 15:33
  have
• 15:33
  on
• 15:34
  you.
• 15:34
  You
• 15:34
  don't
• 15:35
  have
• 15:35
  the
• 15:35
  power
• 15:35
  to
• 15:35
  change
• 15:35
  this.
• 15:36
  Like,
• 15:36
  you
• 15:37
  don't
• 15:37
  have
• 15:37
  the
• 15:37
  power
• 15:37
  to
• 15:37
  make
• 15:37
  them
• 15:38
  feel
• 15:38
  better.
• 15:38
  I
• 15:39
  always
• 15:39
  joke
• 15:39
  that
• 15:39
  the
• 15:40
  best
• 15:40
  thing
• 15:40
  you
• 15:40
  can
• 15:40
  say
• 15:40
  to
• 15:41
  somebody
• 15:41
  is,
• 15:41
  I'm
• 15:41
  thinking
• 15:42
  of
• 15:42
  you,
• 15:42
  or,
• 15:43
  I'm
• 15:43
  praying
• 15:43
  for
• 15:43
  you,
• 15:43
  and,
• 15:44
  can
• 15:44
  I
• 15:44
  bring
• 15:44
  you
• 15:44
  dinner
• 15:45
  on
• 15:45
  Thursday?
• 15:45
  Like,
• 15:46
  you
• 15:46
  want
• 15:46
  to
• 15:47
  do
• 15:47
  something?
• 15:47
  I
• 15:47
  love
• 15:47
  that
• 15:48
  you
• 15:48
  said
• 15:48
  that.
• 15:48
  Yeah.
• 15:49
  Like,
• 15:49
  do
• 15:49
  something
• 15:49
  that's
• 15:50
  going
• 15:50
  to
• 15:50
  be
• 15:50
  helpful.
• 15:51
  And
• 15:51
  it's
• 15:51
  not,
• 15:51
  like,
• 15:51
  what
• 15:52
  can
• 15:52
  I
• 15:52
  do
• 15:52
  for
• 15:52
  you?
• 15:53
  It's.
• 15:53
  I'm
• 15:54
  doing.
• 15:54
  This
• 15:54
  is
• 15:54
  what
• 15:54
  I'm
• 15:55
  doing
• 15:55
  on
• 15:55
  this
• 15:56
  day.
• 15:56
  Yeah.
• 15:56
  And
• 15:56
  all
• 15:57
  you
• 15:57
  have
• 15:57
  to
• 15:57
  do
• 15:57
  is
• 15:57
  sit
• 15:57
  back
• 15:57
  and
• 15:58
  accept
• 15:58
  it.
• 15:58
  Yeah.
• 15:59
  And
• 15:59
  that's.
• 15:59
  That's
• 15:59
  a
• 15:59
  problem,
• 15:59
  too.
• 16:00
  When
• 16:00
  people
• 16:00
  are
• 16:00
  like,
• 16:00
  what
• 16:01
  can
• 16:01
  I
• 16:01
  do
• 16:01
  for
• 16:01
  you?
• 16:02
  You're
• 16:02
  like,
• 16:02
  dang.
• 16:02
  Well,
• 16:02
  I
• 16:03
  got.
• 16:03
  I
• 16:03
  got
• 16:04
  a
• 16:04
  lot
• 16:04
  of
• 16:04
  laundry
• 16:04
  that
• 16:04
  needs
• 16:04
  done.
• 16:05
  I
• 16:05
  need
• 16:05
  help
• 16:05
  taking
• 16:05
  the
• 16:06
  kids
• 16:06
  places.
• 16:06
  Like,
• 16:07
  I.
• 16:07
  I
• 16:08
  don't
• 16:08
  want
• 16:08
  to
• 16:08
  cook.
• 16:09
  I
• 16:09
  don't
• 16:09
  have
• 16:09
  time
• 16:09
  to
• 16:09
  cook.
• 16:09
  And,
• 16:10
  like,
• 16:10
  just
• 16:10
  saying,
• 16:10
  like,
• 16:10
  this
• 16:11
  is
• 16:11
  what.
• 16:11
  No,
• 16:12
  no
• 16:12
  questions.
• 16:12
  Like,
• 16:13
  what
• 16:13
  day
• 16:13
  is
• 16:14
  best?
• 16:14
  Like,
• 16:15
  that
• 16:15
  might
• 16:15
  be
• 16:15
  the
• 16:15
  question,
• 16:16
  you
• 16:16
  know?
• 16:17
  But,
• 16:17
  yeah,
• 16:17
  nobody
• 16:18
  knows
• 16:18
  what
• 16:18
  to
• 16:18
  do.
• 16:18
  But
• 16:18
  everybody
• 16:19
  thinks
• 16:19
  that
• 16:19
  maybe
• 16:19
  they
• 16:20
  can
• 16:20
  say
• 16:20
  something
• 16:20
  that's
• 16:20
  going
• 16:21
  to
• 16:21
  make
• 16:21
  the
• 16:21
  person
• 16:21
  feel
• 16:22
  better
• 16:22
  and
• 16:22
  that
• 16:23
  just.
• 16:23
  You
• 16:24
  don't
• 16:24
  have
• 16:24
  that
• 16:24
  power.
• 16:26
  So
• 16:26
  you
• 16:26
  built
• 16:27
  a
• 16:27
  business
• 16:28
  where
• 16:29
  you
• 16:30
  are
• 16:30
  helping
• 16:30
  people.
• 16:30
  What
• 16:31
  is
• 16:31
  the
• 16:31
  business
• 16:31
  called?
• 16:32
  Okay,
• 16:32
  so
• 16:32
  it's
• 16:33
  NWA
• 16:33
  Grief
• 16:34
  Specialist,
• 16:34
  because
• 16:34
  I'm
• 16:34
  located
• 16:35
  in
• 16:35
  northwest
• 16:35
  Arkansas,
• 16:36
  but
• 16:36
  we
• 16:37
  definitely
• 16:37
  work
• 16:37
  with
• 16:37
  people,
• 16:38
  like,
• 16:38
  worldwide.
• 16:40
  People
• 16:40
  all
• 16:40
  over
• 16:40
  the
• 16:40
  world
• 16:41
  are
• 16:41
  going
• 16:41
  to
• 16:41
  be
• 16:41
  at
• 16:42
  my.
• 16:42
  My
• 16:42
  webinar,
• 16:43
  you
• 16:43
  know,
• 16:43
  listening.
• 16:43
  And
• 16:44
  grief
• 16:44
  is
• 16:44
  the
• 16:44
  same
• 16:44
  no
• 16:44
  matter
• 16:45
  where
• 16:45
  you
• 16:45
  live,
• 16:46
  and
• 16:46
  grief
• 16:46
  is
• 16:47
  very
• 16:47
  different.
• 16:47
  But
• 16:49
  so
• 16:49
  it
• 16:49
  basically.
• 16:50
  Yeah,
• 16:50
  it
• 16:50
  just.
• 16:51
  I
• 16:51
  was
• 16:51
  like,
• 16:51
  you
• 16:51
  know,
• 16:51
  we
• 16:51
  need
• 16:52
  more
• 16:52
  people
• 16:52
  that
• 16:53
  are
• 16:53
  doing
• 16:53
  grief
• 16:53
  work.
• 16:54
  And,
• 16:54
  like,
• 16:54
  for
• 16:54
  me,
• 16:55
  I
• 16:55
  was
• 16:55
  looking
• 16:55
  for
• 16:55
  people
• 16:56
  who,
• 16:56
  like,
• 16:56
  all
• 16:57
  of
• 16:57
  us.
• 16:57
  Like,
• 16:57
  does
• 16:58
  she
• 16:58
  look
• 16:58
  like
• 16:58
  me?
• 16:59
  Does
• 16:59
  she.
• 17:00
  Does
• 17:00
  she
• 17:00
  have
• 17:00
  my
• 17:00
  energy?
• 17:01
  Does.
• 17:01
  Because,
• 17:02
  like,
• 17:02
  you
• 17:02
  don't.
• 17:04
  You
• 17:04
  want
• 17:04
  to
• 17:04
  find
• 17:05
  somebody
• 17:05
  you
• 17:05
  have
• 17:05
  common
• 17:06
  ground
• 17:06
  with,
• 17:06
  you
• 17:06
  know,
• 17:07
  and
• 17:07
  to
• 17:07
  connect
• 17:07
  with.
• 17:07
  And
• 17:08
  so
• 17:08
  I
• 17:08
  was
• 17:08
  like.
• 17:08
  Because
• 17:08
  you're
• 17:09
  sharing
• 17:09
  a
• 17:09
  big,
• 17:10
  big,
• 17:10
  hard
• 17:10
  part
• 17:11
  of
• 17:11
  yourself
• 17:11
  with
• 17:11
  this
• 17:12
  person.
• 17:12
  Oh,
• 17:13
  yeah,
• 17:13
  because
• 17:13
  in
• 17:13
  the
• 17:13
  work
• 17:14
  I
• 17:14
  do.
• 17:14
  So,
• 17:14
  like,
• 17:14
  the
• 17:14
  difference
• 17:15
  between
• 17:15
  what
• 17:15
  I
• 17:15
  do
• 17:15
  in
• 17:15
  therapy.
• 17:16
  So
• 17:16
  in
• 17:17
  therapy,
• 17:17
  like,
• 17:17
  therapy
• 17:18
  is
• 17:18
  all
• 17:18
  about
• 17:19
  you.
• 17:19
  So
• 17:20
  you
• 17:20
  don't
• 17:20
  know
• 17:20
  anything
• 17:21
  about
• 17:21
  your
• 17:21
  therapist.
• 17:22
  A
• 17:22
  lot
• 17:22
  of
• 17:22
  times,
• 17:22
  like,
• 17:22
  you
• 17:23
  know
• 17:23
  nothing
• 17:23
  about
• 17:23
  their
• 17:24
  struggles.
• 17:24
  They're
• 17:24
  not
• 17:24
  supposed
• 17:25
  to
• 17:25
  talk
• 17:25
  to
• 17:25
  you
• 17:25
  about
• 17:25
  their
• 17:25
  struggle.
• 17:26
  In
• 17:26
  the
• 17:26
  work
• 17:27
  that
• 17:27
  I
• 17:27
  do,
• 17:28
  I
• 17:28
  always
• 17:29
  share
• 17:29
  first.
• 17:30
  So
• 17:30
  I'll
• 17:30
  be
• 17:30
  like,
• 17:30
  okay,
• 17:31
  this
• 17:31
  is,
• 17:31
  like,
• 17:32
  the
• 17:32
  steps
• 17:32
  that
• 17:32
  we
• 17:32
  go
• 17:33
  through.
• 17:33
  So,
• 17:33
  like,
• 17:33
  one
• 17:33
  of
• 17:34
  them
• 17:34
  is
• 17:34
  a
• 17:35
  loss
• 17:35
  history
• 17:35
  graph
• 17:35
  where
• 17:36
  we
• 17:36
  go
• 17:36
  through
• 17:36
  and
• 17:36
  we
• 17:36
  graph
• 17:36
  every
• 17:37
  loss
• 17:37
  to
• 17:37
  try
• 17:37
  to
• 17:37
  understand,
• 17:38
  like,
• 17:38
  how
• 17:38
  you've
• 17:38
  dealt
• 17:38
  with
• 17:38
  grief
• 17:39
  in
• 17:39
  the
• 17:39
  past.
• 17:39
  I
• 17:40
  share
• 17:40
  mine
• 17:40
  first.
• 17:41
  And
• 17:41
  so
• 17:41
  that
• 17:41
  way
• 17:41
  it's
• 17:42
  like,
• 17:42
  okay,
• 17:42
  like,
• 17:43
  she
• 17:43
  was
• 17:43
  vulnerable
• 17:44
  with
• 17:44
  me.
• 17:44
  I
• 17:44
  see
• 17:44
  how
• 17:45
  she
• 17:45
  dealt
• 17:45
  with
• 17:45
  it.
• 17:45
  Gives
• 17:46
  them
• 17:46
  a
• 17:46
  lot
• 17:46
  of.
• 17:46
  Gives
• 17:47
  them
• 17:47
  an
• 17:47
  example
• 17:47
  of
• 17:48
  how
• 17:48
  to
• 17:48
  share
• 17:48
  and
• 17:49
  then
• 17:49
  also
• 17:49
  builds
• 17:50
  trust
• 17:50
  with
• 17:50
  them.
• 17:50
  It's
• 17:51
  like,
• 17:51
  okay,
• 17:51
  she
• 17:51
  was
• 17:51
  willing
• 17:52
  to
• 17:52
  share
• 17:52
  this
• 17:52
  with
• 17:52
  me.
• 17:53
  Now
• 17:53
  I
• 17:53
  can
• 17:53
  share
• 17:53
  it
• 17:53
  with
• 17:53
  her.
• 17:54
  And
• 17:54
  it
• 17:54
  kind
• 17:54
  of
• 17:54
  lets
• 17:54
  them
• 17:55
  off
• 17:55
  the
• 17:55
  hook
• 17:55
  a
• 17:55
  little
• 17:55
  bit
• 17:56
  to
• 17:56
  be
• 17:56
  like,
• 17:56
  okay,
• 17:57
  I
• 17:57
  can
• 17:57
  do
• 17:57
  this
• 17:57
  report
• 17:58
  right.
• 17:59
  Rapport.
• 17:59
  Yeah,
• 17:59
  Rapport.
• 18:00
  Yeah.
• 18:00
  It's
• 18:00
  building
• 18:01
  rapport.
• 18:01
  You're
• 18:01
  right.
• 18:02
  I
• 18:02
  was
• 18:02
  gonna
• 18:03
  ask
• 18:03
  you
• 18:03
  what.
• 18:04
  If
• 18:04
  you
• 18:04
  don't
• 18:04
  mind
• 18:04
  sharing
• 18:04
  with
• 18:05
  us
• 18:05
  now,
• 18:05
  since
• 18:05
  you
• 18:05
  did
• 18:06
  bring
• 18:06
  it
• 18:06
  up,
• 18:07
  what
• 18:07
  did
• 18:07
  happen
• 18:08
  that
• 18:08
  kind
• 18:08
  of,
• 18:09
  like,
• 18:09
  spearheaded
• 18:10
  this?
• 18:10
  Yeah.
• 18:11
  So
• 18:11
  understand
• 18:12
  this.
• 18:12
  Wanting
• 18:12
  to
• 18:12
  know
• 18:13
  more
• 18:13
  and
• 18:13
  understand
• 18:13
  grief
• 18:14
  and.
• 18:15
  Right.
• 18:15
  So,
• 18:16
  I
• 18:16
  mean,
• 18:16
  back
• 18:17
  before
• 18:17
  this
• 18:17
  major
• 18:18
  event
• 18:18
  happened,
• 18:18
  I
• 18:18
  went
• 18:19
  through
• 18:19
  infertility,
• 18:19
  and
• 18:19
  I
• 18:20
  didn't
• 18:20
  really
• 18:20
  know
• 18:20
  how
• 18:21
  to
• 18:21
  deal
• 18:21
  with
• 18:21
  that.
• 18:22
  So
• 18:22
  there
• 18:22
  was,
• 18:22
  like,
• 18:23
  that
• 18:23
  first,
• 18:23
  like,
• 18:23
  little
• 18:24
  wasn't
• 18:24
  little.
• 18:25
  It
• 18:25
  was
• 18:25
  major.
• 18:25
  But
• 18:25
  nothing
• 18:26
  in
• 18:26
  comparison
• 18:26
  to
• 18:27
  my.
• 18:27
  The
• 18:27
  one
• 18:27
  I'm
• 18:27
  going
• 18:28
  to
• 18:28
  tell
• 18:28
  you
• 18:28
  about.
• 18:28
  But
• 18:29
  in
• 18:29
  2022,
• 18:32
  we
• 18:32
  had,
• 18:32
  like,
• 18:33
  completed
• 18:33
  our
• 18:33
  family.
• 18:34
  Like,
• 18:34
  the
• 18:34
  best
• 18:34
  word
• 18:34
  to
• 18:34
  describe
• 18:35
  is
• 18:35
  just
• 18:35
  complete.
• 18:35
  Everything
• 18:35
  felt
• 18:36
  complete.
• 18:36
  We
• 18:36
  just
• 18:36
  bought
• 18:37
  a
• 18:37
  farm.
• 18:37
  We
• 18:37
  were
• 18:37
  building
• 18:38
  our
• 18:38
  dream
• 18:38
  house,
• 18:38
  or
• 18:39
  we
• 18:39
  just
• 18:39
  finished
• 18:39
  it.
• 18:40
  And,
• 18:40
  like,
• 18:41
  everything
• 18:42
  was,
• 18:42
  like.
• 18:42
  It
• 18:43
  was
• 18:43
  one
• 18:43
  of
• 18:43
  those
• 18:43
  times.
• 18:43
  I
• 18:43
  was
• 18:44
  just
• 18:44
  like,
• 18:44
  is
• 18:44
  this,
• 18:44
  like.
• 18:44
  It
• 18:45
  almost
• 18:45
  felt,
• 18:45
  like,
• 18:45
  too
• 18:45
  good
• 18:45
  to
• 18:45
  be
• 18:46
  true.
• 18:46
  It
• 18:46
  was,
• 18:46
  like,
• 18:46
  kind
• 18:46
  of
• 18:47
  like
• 18:47
  waiting
• 18:47
  for.
• 18:47
  For
• 18:47
  the
• 18:47
  ball
• 18:48
  to
• 18:48
  drop.
• 18:48
  Like,
• 18:49
  everything
• 18:49
  looks
• 18:50
  so
• 18:50
  good.
• 18:50
  Like,
• 18:50
  the
• 18:50
  kids
• 18:51
  were
• 18:51
  doing
• 18:51
  pretty
• 18:51
  well,
• 18:51
  and,
• 18:52
  like,
• 18:52
  we
• 18:52
  were
• 18:53
  homeschooling,
• 18:53
  and
• 18:54
  my
• 18:54
  husband's
• 18:55
  career
• 18:55
  was
• 18:55
  going
• 18:56
  amazing.
• 18:56
  I
• 18:56
  was
• 18:56
  working
• 18:57
  for
• 18:57
  the
• 18:57
  University
• 18:57
  of
• 18:57
  Arkansas,
• 18:58
  teaching
• 18:58
  public
• 18:58
  speaking
• 18:58
  when
• 18:59
  the
• 18:59
  kids
• 18:59
  were
• 18:59
  doing
• 18:59
  their
• 18:59
  work.
• 19:00
  And,
• 19:00
  like,
• 19:00
  everything
• 19:00
  seemed,
• 19:01
  like,
• 19:01
  so
• 19:01
  good.
• 19:02
  And
• 19:02
  then
• 19:02
  my
• 19:03
  husband's
• 19:03
  personality
• 19:04
  started
• 19:04
  to
• 19:04
  change
• 19:05
  a
• 19:05
  little
• 19:05
  bit,
• 19:05
  and
• 19:05
  I'm
• 19:05
  like,
• 19:05
  kelly,
• 19:06
  he's
• 19:06
  kind
• 19:06
  of
• 19:06
  a
• 19:06
  jerk.
• 19:07
  Like,
• 19:07
  he's,
• 19:08
  like,
• 19:08
  being
• 19:08
  hateful,
• 19:09
  and
• 19:09
  he's
• 19:09
  picking
• 19:10
  Fights.
• 19:10
  And
• 19:10
  I'm
• 19:11
  like,
• 19:11
  this
• 19:11
  is
• 19:11
  not.
• 19:12
  Like,
• 19:13
  this
• 19:13
  is
• 19:13
  not
• 19:13
  my
• 19:14
  husband.
• 19:14
  And
• 19:14
  I
• 19:14
  had
• 19:14
  this
• 19:15
  feeling
• 19:15
  of,
• 19:15
  like,
• 19:15
  I
• 19:15
  can't
• 19:16
  stay
• 19:16
  in
• 19:16
  a
• 19:16
  marriage
• 19:16
  like
• 19:17
  this.
• 19:17
  Like,
• 19:17
  this
• 19:17
  is
• 19:18
  terrible.
• 19:18
  But,
• 19:18
  like,
• 19:18
  he
• 19:18
  was
• 19:18
  so
• 19:19
  hateful.
• 19:19
  I
• 19:19
  didn't
• 19:19
  want
• 19:19
  to
• 19:19
  leave
• 19:19
  the
• 19:20
  kids
• 19:20
  with
• 19:20
  him
• 19:20
  either.
• 19:21
  Like,
• 19:21
  and
• 19:21
  divorce
• 19:21
  him.
• 19:22
  And
• 19:22
  I
• 19:22
  had
• 19:23
  committed
• 19:23
  to
• 19:23
  him.
• 19:23
  And
• 19:23
  so
• 19:24
  I
• 19:24
  was
• 19:24
  like,
• 19:24
  I
• 19:24
  don't
• 19:24
  know
• 19:25
  what
• 19:25
  to
• 19:25
  do
• 19:25
  with
• 19:26
  this.
• 19:26
  I'm
• 19:27
  worried.
• 19:27
  I
• 19:27
  know
• 19:27
  where
• 19:27
  this
• 19:27
  is
• 19:28
  going.
• 19:28
  Yeah.
• 19:29
  So
• 19:29
  two
• 19:29
  weeks
• 19:30
  after
• 19:30
  I
• 19:30
  had
• 19:30
  this
• 19:31
  moment
• 19:31
  of,
• 19:31
  like,
• 19:31
  I
• 19:31
  don't
• 19:32
  know
• 19:32
  if
• 19:32
  I
• 19:32
  can
• 19:32
  do
• 19:32
  this.
• 19:33
  He
• 19:33
  started
• 19:33
  getting
• 19:34
  really
• 19:34
  bad
• 19:34
  headaches.
• 19:35
  And
• 19:36
  we
• 19:36
  went
• 19:36
  to
• 19:36
  the
• 19:36
  doctor.
• 19:38
  They
• 19:38
  immediately
• 19:39
  sent
• 19:39
  us
• 19:39
  back
• 19:39
  for
• 19:39
  a
• 19:40
  ct,
• 19:40
  did
• 19:40
  a
• 19:40
  CT
• 19:41
  of
• 19:41
  his
• 19:41
  brain
• 19:41
  came
• 19:41
  out.
• 19:42
  He
• 19:42
  has
• 19:42
  a
• 19:42
  huge
• 19:42
  mass
• 19:43
  on
• 19:43
  the
• 19:43
  front
• 19:44
  right
• 19:44
  part
• 19:44
  of
• 19:44
  his
• 19:44
  brain,
• 19:45
  which,
• 19:45
  if
• 19:45
  you
• 19:45
  know,
• 19:45
  is
• 19:46
  where
• 19:46
  you.
• 19:46
  Where
• 19:46
  your
• 19:46
  personality
• 19:47
  is
• 19:47
  at.
• 19:48
  And
• 19:48
  so
• 19:49
  I'm
• 19:49
  like,
• 19:49
  oh,
• 19:49
  gosh.
• 19:49
  So
• 19:50
  they
• 19:50
  sent
• 19:50
  us
• 19:50
  over
• 19:51
  across
• 19:51
  the
• 19:51
  road
• 19:51
  to
• 19:52
  the
• 19:52
  emergency
• 19:52
  room
• 19:52
  for
• 19:52
  an
• 19:53
  mri.
• 19:54
  And
• 19:54
  within
• 19:55
  an
• 19:55
  hour,
• 19:55
  we
• 19:55
  had
• 19:55
  our
• 19:56
  MRI
• 19:56
  Doctor
• 19:57
  came
• 19:57
  in,
• 19:58
  diagnosed
• 19:58
  him
• 19:58
  with
• 19:58
  terminal
• 19:59
  brain
• 19:59
  cancer
• 20:00
  called
• 20:00
  glioblastoma
• 20:02
  and
• 20:03
  gave
• 20:03
  us
• 20:03
  a
• 20:03
  pamphlet
• 20:04
  that
• 20:04
  said,
• 20:05
  you
• 20:05
  know,
• 20:05
  his
• 20:05
  prognosis
• 20:06
  was
• 20:07
  12
• 20:07
  to
• 20:08
  16
• 20:08
  months
• 20:09
  and
• 20:10
  that
• 20:10
  there
• 20:10
  was
• 20:10
  no
• 20:10
  effective
• 20:11
  treatment
• 20:11
  for
• 20:12
  it.
• 20:12
  And
• 20:12
  they
• 20:13
  gave
• 20:14
  us
• 20:14
  a
• 20:14
  pamphlet,
• 20:15
  scheduled
• 20:15
  the
• 20:15
  time,
• 20:15
  told
• 20:16
  us
• 20:16
  to
• 20:16
  call
• 20:16
  Monday
• 20:17
  to
• 20:17
  get
• 20:17
  an
• 20:18
  appointment
• 20:18
  with
• 20:18
  a
• 20:18
  surgeon.
• 20:19
  And,
• 20:20
  you
• 20:20
  know,
• 20:20
  that
• 20:20
  we
• 20:21
  could
• 20:21
  do
• 20:21
  surgery,
• 20:21
  we
• 20:21
  could
• 20:21
  do
• 20:22
  radiation,
• 20:22
  but
• 20:22
  nothing
• 20:22
  was
• 20:23
  going
• 20:23
  to
• 20:23
  work.
• 20:23
  Like,
• 20:24
  he
• 20:24
  was
• 20:24
  going
• 20:24
  to
• 20:24
  die.
• 20:26
  Sent
• 20:26
  us
• 20:26
  home,
• 20:27
  and
• 20:28
  we
• 20:28
  picked
• 20:28
  the
• 20:29
  kids
• 20:29
  up
• 20:29
  on
• 20:29
  the
• 20:29
  way
• 20:29
  back
• 20:30
  home
• 20:31
  because
• 20:31
  we
• 20:31
  didn't
• 20:31
  know
• 20:31
  how
• 20:31
  much
• 20:32
  time
• 20:32
  we
• 20:32
  were
• 20:32
  going
• 20:32
  to
• 20:32
  have
• 20:32
  left
• 20:32
  with
• 20:33
  him
• 20:33
  as
• 20:33
  a
• 20:33
  family.
• 20:34
  So
• 20:34
  we
• 20:34
  brought
• 20:34
  him
• 20:34
  home
• 20:35
  that
• 20:35
  night.
• 20:36
  From
• 20:36
  there,
• 20:37
  we
• 20:37
  decided.
• 20:37
  I
• 20:38
  was
• 20:38
  like.
• 20:38
  I
• 20:38
  was
• 20:38
  like,
• 20:39
  I.
• 20:39
  And
• 20:39
  you
• 20:39
  probably
• 20:39
  already
• 20:40
  picked
• 20:40
  this
• 20:40
  up
• 20:41
  from
• 20:41
  me,
• 20:41
  but
• 20:41
  I
• 20:41
  was
• 20:41
  like,
• 20:43
  no,
• 20:44
  no,
• 20:45
  not
• 20:45
  denial.
• 20:46
  But
• 20:48
  he
• 20:48
  will
• 20:48
  be
• 20:49
  the
• 20:49
  one
• 20:50
  that
• 20:50
  beats
• 20:50
  this,
• 20:51
  because
• 20:52
  I'm
• 20:52
  gonna
• 20:53
  pray.
• 20:53
  I'm
• 20:54
  gonna
• 20:54
  fast.
• 20:54
  I'm
• 20:55
  gonna
• 20:55
  find
• 20:55
  the
• 20:55
  right
• 20:55
  doctors.
• 20:56
  I'm
• 20:56
  gonna
• 20:56
  have
• 20:56
  him
• 20:56
  on
• 20:57
  every
• 20:57
  supplement.
• 20:57
  We're
• 20:57
  gonna
• 20:58
  be
• 20:58
  juicing.
• 20:58
  We're
• 20:58
  gonna
• 20:58
  be
• 20:59
  doing
• 20:59
  mindset
• 20:59
  work.
• 21:00
  Like,
• 21:01
  we're
• 21:01
  gonna
• 21:01
  do
• 21:01
  everything.
• 21:02
  And
• 21:02
  he
• 21:02
  is
• 21:02
  going
• 21:03
  to
• 21:03
  be
• 21:03
  like.
• 21:03
  He's
• 21:03
  gonna
• 21:04
  be
• 21:04
  like
• 21:04
  this
• 21:04
  person.
• 21:04
  Person
• 21:04
  that,
• 21:05
  like,
• 21:05
  everybody's
• 21:05
  turning
• 21:06
  to,
• 21:06
  like,
• 21:06
  this
• 21:06
  guy.
• 21:07
  Like,
• 21:07
  he.
• 21:08
  He's
• 21:08
  the
• 21:08
  one
• 21:08
  who
• 21:09
  beat
• 21:09
  it.
• 21:09
  Now
• 21:09
  we
• 21:09
  can
• 21:10
  all
• 21:10
  do
• 21:10
  what
• 21:10
  he's
• 21:10
  doing,
• 21:11
  right?
• 21:12
  And
• 21:12
  an
• 21:13
  inspirational
• 21:13
  miracle
• 21:14
  for
• 21:14
  everyone.
• 21:15
  Yeah.
• 21:15
  And
• 21:18
  just
• 21:18
  like
• 21:18
  they
• 21:18
  had
• 21:18
  told
• 21:19
  us,
• 21:19
  nothing
• 21:19
  worked.
• 21:20
  And
• 21:20
  so
• 21:21
  he
• 21:21
  slowly
• 21:21
  deteriorated
• 21:22
  over
• 21:23
  the
• 21:23
  course
• 21:23
  of
• 21:25
  12
• 21:26
  months.
• 21:26
  He
• 21:26
  lived
• 21:26
  12
• 21:27
  months
• 21:27
  past
• 21:28
  his
• 21:28
  diagnosis,
• 21:29
  and
• 21:32
  I.
• 21:33
  He
• 21:33
  was
• 21:33
  in
• 21:33
  hospice
• 21:34
  for
• 21:34
  a
• 21:34
  month,
• 21:34
  and
• 21:34
  I
• 21:35
  was
• 21:35
  just
• 21:35
  sitting
• 21:35
  there
• 21:35
  with
• 21:35
  him,
• 21:36
  like,
• 21:36
  he
• 21:36
  was
• 21:36
  totally
• 21:37
  out
• 21:37
  of
• 21:37
  it.
• 21:37
  They
• 21:37
  had
• 21:38
  him
• 21:38
  medicated
• 21:38
  to
• 21:38
  where
• 21:38
  he
• 21:38
  couldn't
• 21:39
  feel
• 21:39
  anything,
• 21:39
  which
• 21:40
  is
• 21:40
  wonderful.
• 21:40
  Like,
• 21:41
  I
• 21:41
  love,
• 21:41
  love,
• 21:42
  love
• 21:42
  hospice
• 21:42
  and
• 21:42
  what
• 21:43
  they
• 21:43
  do
• 21:43
  for
• 21:43
  us
• 21:43
  and
• 21:44
  our
• 21:44
  loved
• 21:44
  ones.
• 21:46
  About
• 21:46
  a
• 21:47
  month
• 21:47
  of
• 21:47
  sitting
• 21:47
  there
• 21:47
  being
• 21:48
  like,
• 21:48
  okay,
• 21:48
  like,
• 21:49
  the
• 21:49
  moment
• 21:49
  he
• 21:49
  passes,
• 21:50
  like,
• 21:50
  it's
• 21:51
  game
• 21:51
  on.
• 21:52
  Like,
• 21:52
  it's.
• 21:52
  It's
• 21:53
  you.
• 21:53
  You.
• 21:53
  You
• 21:54
  have
• 21:54
  a
• 21:54
  farm,
• 21:54
  you
• 21:55
  have
• 21:55
  a
• 21:55
  company,
• 21:55
  you
• 21:56
  have
• 21:56
  two
• 21:56
  kids,
• 21:56
  you
• 21:57
  have
• 21:57
  this
• 21:57
  house.
• 21:58
  Like,
• 21:59
  it's
• 21:59
  you
• 22:00
  and
• 22:01
  your
• 22:01
  job.
• 22:02
  It's
• 22:02
  like,
• 22:03
  it's
• 22:03
  you
• 22:04
  that's
• 22:04
  gonna
• 22:04
  do
• 22:05
  all
• 22:05
  this.
• 22:05
  Yes,
• 22:05
  I
• 22:05
  had
• 22:05
  support
• 22:06
  and
• 22:06
  help,
• 22:06
  but
• 22:06
  ultimately
• 22:07
  it
• 22:08
  was
• 22:08
  me.
• 22:08
  And
• 22:09
  I
• 22:09
  was
• 22:09
  like,
• 22:09
  people
• 22:10
  die
• 22:10
  every
• 22:10
  day.
• 22:11
  Like,
• 22:11
  there
• 22:12
  has
• 22:12
  to
• 22:12
  be
• 22:12
  a
• 22:12
  blueprint.
• 22:13
  There
• 22:13
  has
• 22:13
  to
• 22:13
  be
• 22:13
  something.
• 22:13
  And
• 22:14
  I
• 22:14
  kind
• 22:14
  of
• 22:14
  saw
• 22:14
  some
• 22:14
  coaches
• 22:15
  and
• 22:15
  stuff.
• 22:15
  It's
• 22:15
  just
• 22:15
  not
• 22:16
  feeling
• 22:16
  their
• 22:16
  vibe.
• 22:16
  And
• 22:17
  I
• 22:17
  was
• 22:17
  like,
• 22:17
  if
• 22:18
  I
• 22:18
  can
• 22:18
  figure
• 22:18
  this
• 22:19
  out,
• 22:19
  if
• 22:19
  I
• 22:19
  can
• 22:19
  figure
• 22:20
  out
• 22:20
  how
• 22:20
  to
• 22:20
  do
• 22:21
  this,
• 22:22
  how
• 22:22
  to
• 22:23
  serve,
• 22:23
  not
• 22:23
  just
• 22:24
  to
• 22:24
  survive,
• 22:24
  because
• 22:25
  that's
• 22:25
  boring,
• 22:26
  but
• 22:26
  to
• 22:26
  actually,
• 22:26
  like,
• 22:27
  take
• 22:27
  it,
• 22:27
  survive
• 22:28
  it,
• 22:28
  and
• 22:28
  turn
• 22:29
  my
• 22:29
  life
• 22:29
  into
• 22:30
  it.
• 22:30
  Yeah.
• 22:30
  Just
• 22:31
  thriving
• 22:31
  in
• 22:31
  this
• 22:32
  really
• 22:33
  terrible
• 22:33
  situation.
• 22:34
  Like,
• 22:34
  I'm
• 22:35
  going
• 22:35
  to
• 22:35
  take
• 22:35
  as
• 22:35
  many
• 22:35
  women
• 22:36
  as
• 22:36
  I
• 22:36
  can
• 22:36
  through
• 22:37
  this.
• 22:37
  Like,
• 22:37
  I'm
• 22:37
  going
• 22:37
  to
• 22:37
  be
• 22:37
  like,
• 22:38
  come
• 22:38
  on,
• 22:38
  girl.
• 22:38
  Like,
• 22:38
  we're
• 22:39
  going,
• 22:39
  like,
• 22:40
  you
• 22:40
  know,
• 22:40
  and
• 22:41
  that's
• 22:41
  what
• 22:41
  I
• 22:41
  did.
• 22:42
  I
• 22:42
  was
• 22:42
  very
• 22:42
  dedicated
• 22:43
  to
• 22:43
  the
• 22:44
  whole
• 22:44
  process.
• 22:46
  It
• 22:46
  brings
• 22:46
  up
• 22:46
  a
• 22:46
  question
• 22:47
  for
• 22:47
  me,
• 22:47
  because
• 22:47
  earlier
• 22:48
  you
• 22:48
  were
• 22:48
  talking
• 22:48
  about,
• 22:48
  hey,
• 22:49
  I'm
• 22:49
  the
• 22:49
  one
• 22:49
  who's
• 22:50
  going
• 22:50
  to
• 22:50
  reach
• 22:50
  down.
• 22:50
  I'm
• 22:51
  going
• 22:51
  to
• 22:51
  pull
• 22:51
  you
• 22:51
  out
• 22:51
  of
• 22:51
  this
• 22:52
  darkness.
• 22:52
  And
• 22:53
  I
• 22:53
  wanted
• 22:53
  to
• 22:53
  know,
• 22:53
  like,
• 22:54
  what.
• 22:54
  Does
• 22:54
  that
• 22:54
  look
• 22:54
  like?
• 22:55
  Because
• 22:55
  you
• 22:55
  said
• 22:56
  also,
• 22:58
  when
• 22:58
  you're
• 22:58
  the
• 22:58
  one
• 22:58
  who's
• 22:59
  going
• 22:59
  through
• 22:59
  this,
• 22:59
  you
• 22:59
  are
• 23:00
  the
• 23:00
  one
• 23:00
  that
• 23:00
  has
• 23:00
  to
• 23:00
  take
• 23:01
  the
• 23:01
  steps.
• 23:01
  And,
• 23:01
  like,
• 23:02
  it's
• 23:02
  on
• 23:02
  you
• 23:02
  to,
• 23:03
  like,
• 23:04
  get
• 23:04
  out.
• 23:05
  But
• 23:06
  it
• 23:06
  does
• 23:06
  help
• 23:07
  to
• 23:07
  have
• 23:07
  somebody,
• 23:07
  like,
• 23:08
  at
• 23:08
  least
• 23:08
  a
• 23:08
  hand
• 23:08
  to
• 23:09
  reach
• 23:09
  towards.
• 23:09
  Right.
• 23:10
  Like,
• 23:11
  I
• 23:11
  know.
• 23:13
  Tell
• 23:13
  us
• 23:13
  kind
• 23:13
  of
• 23:13
  what
• 23:13
  that
• 23:14
  looks
• 23:14
  like.
• 23:14
  How
• 23:14
  do
• 23:14
  you
• 23:15
  have
• 23:15
  somebody
• 23:15
  take
• 23:16
  responsibility
• 23:16
  for
• 23:17
  their
• 23:17
  actions
• 23:17
  but
• 23:18
  still
• 23:18
  know
• 23:18
  that
• 23:19
  you're
• 23:19
  there
• 23:19
  to
• 23:20
  help
• 23:20
  them?
• 23:21
  Yeah.
• 23:21
  So
• 23:21
  there
• 23:21
  has
• 23:22
  to
• 23:22
  be
• 23:22
  an
• 23:22
  identity
• 23:22
  shift.
• 23:23
  People
• 23:24
  get
• 23:24
  stuck
• 23:24
  in
• 23:24
  the
• 23:25
  victim
• 23:25
  mentality.
• 23:26
  And
• 23:27
  I
• 23:27
  like
• 23:27
  to
• 23:27
  say
• 23:27
  that,
• 23:27
  like,
• 23:28
  victimhood
• 23:29
  is
• 23:29
  not
• 23:29
  a
• 23:29
  virtue.
• 23:30
  Like,
• 23:30
  there
• 23:30
  is
• 23:30
  nothing
• 23:31
  good
• 23:32
  about
• 23:32
  being
• 23:32
  stuck
• 23:33
  in
• 23:33
  the
• 23:33
  victim
• 23:33
  mentality.
• 23:34
  We
• 23:34
  don't
• 23:35
  want
• 23:35
  you
• 23:35
  there.
• 23:35
  So
• 23:36
  something
• 23:36
  I
• 23:36
  really
• 23:36
  try
• 23:36
  to
• 23:36
  do
• 23:37
  is
• 23:37
  get
• 23:37
  them
• 23:37
  out
• 23:37
  of
• 23:37
  that.
• 23:38
  So
• 23:38
  that's
• 23:38
  like,
• 23:38
  things
• 23:39
  like,
• 23:39
  that's
• 23:39
  why
• 23:39
  I
• 23:39
  have
• 23:40
  my
• 23:40
  webinar.
• 23:40
  That's
• 23:41
  why
• 23:41
  I
• 23:41
  have
• 23:42
  a
• 23:42
  Facebook
• 23:42
  page
• 23:43
  and
• 23:43
  social
• 23:43
  media
• 23:44
  is
• 23:44
  to
• 23:44
  try
• 23:45
  to
• 23:45
  help
• 23:45
  people
• 23:45
  to
• 23:46
  be
• 23:46
  like,
• 23:46
  oh,
• 23:47
  like,
• 23:48
  I.
• 23:49
  I
• 23:49
  don't
• 23:49
  want
• 23:50
  to
• 23:50
  be
• 23:50
  here
• 23:50
  anymore.
• 23:50
  I
• 23:51
  want
• 23:51
  to
• 23:51
  be
• 23:51
  there
• 23:51
  I
• 23:51
  want
• 23:52
  to
• 23:52
  be
• 23:52
  in
• 23:52
  this
• 23:52
  place
• 23:52
  of,
• 23:53
  like,
• 23:53
  where
• 23:53
  good
• 23:53
  things
• 23:53
  are
• 23:54
  happening
• 23:54
  and
• 23:54
  I'm
• 23:54
  making
• 23:54
  progress.
• 23:55
  But
• 23:56
  if
• 23:56
  somebody's
• 23:56
  stuck
• 23:56
  in
• 23:57
  the
• 23:57
  victim
• 23:57
  mentality,
• 23:58
  and
• 23:58
  I
• 23:58
  see
• 23:58
  people
• 23:59
  like
• 23:59
  this
• 23:59
  all
• 23:59
  the
• 23:59
  time
• 23:59
  because
• 24:00
  they'll
• 24:00
  say
• 24:00
  things
• 24:00
  like,
• 24:02
  I
• 24:03
  will
• 24:03
  always
• 24:03
  be
• 24:03
  broken.
• 24:06
  Comparing
• 24:07
  grief.
• 24:07
  You
• 24:07
  don't
• 24:07
  know
• 24:07
  what
• 24:08
  I've
• 24:08
  been
• 24:08
  through.
• 24:08
  Like
• 24:09
  we
• 24:09
  talked
• 24:09
  about
• 24:09
  earlier,
• 24:10
  like,
• 24:10
  these
• 24:10
  people
• 24:11
  that,
• 24:11
  that,
• 24:12
  like,
• 24:12
  they
• 24:12
  think
• 24:12
  that
• 24:12
  their
• 24:13
  situation
• 24:13
  is
• 24:13
  so
• 24:14
  much
• 24:14
  worse
• 24:14
  than
• 24:14
  everybody
• 24:15
  else's,
• 24:15
  that
• 24:15
  nobody
• 24:16
  else
• 24:16
  can
• 24:16
  understand,
• 24:17
  nobody
• 24:17
  else
• 24:17
  can
• 24:18
  help
• 24:18
  them.
• 24:18
  And
• 24:19
  that
• 24:19
  basically.
• 24:20
  Or,
• 24:21
  you
• 24:21
  know,
• 24:21
  I
• 24:21
  had
• 24:21
  another
• 24:22
  person
• 24:22
  say
• 24:22
  that,
• 24:23
  like,
• 24:26
  grief
• 24:26
  and
• 24:26
  recovering
• 24:27
  was
• 24:27
  easy
• 24:28
  for
• 24:28
  me.
• 24:28
  That's
• 24:29
  why
• 24:29
  I'm
• 24:29
  in
• 24:29
  the
• 24:30
  position
• 24:30
  I
• 24:30
  am.
• 24:30
  And
• 24:31
  the
• 24:31
  reason
• 24:31
  they're
• 24:31
  in
• 24:31
  the
• 24:31
  position
• 24:32
  they
• 24:32
  are
• 24:32
  because
• 24:32
  it
• 24:33
  was
• 24:33
  easy
• 24:33
  for
• 24:33
  me
• 24:33
  and
• 24:33
  it
• 24:34
  was
• 24:34
  not
• 24:34
  easy
• 24:34
  for
• 24:34
  them.
• 24:35
  When
• 24:35
  we
• 24:35
  have.
• 24:35
  When
• 24:36
  you're
• 24:36
  stuck
• 24:36
  in
• 24:36
  that
• 24:36
  mindset,
• 24:38
  there's
• 24:38
  nothing
• 24:38
  anybody
• 24:39
  can
• 24:39
  do
• 24:39
  for
• 24:39
  you,
• 24:40
  like,
• 24:40
  because
• 24:41
  you're.
• 24:41
  You're
• 24:41
  unwilling
• 24:42
  to
• 24:42
  be
• 24:42
  open
• 24:43
  to
• 24:43
  the
• 24:43
  possibility
• 24:43
  of
• 24:44
  being
• 24:44
  okay
• 24:44
  again.
• 24:44
  Like,
• 24:45
  I'm
• 24:45
  not
• 24:45
  saying
• 24:45
  thriving
• 24:46
  again.
• 24:46
  I'm
• 24:47
  just
• 24:47
  saying
• 24:47
  they're
• 24:47
  not
• 24:47
  even
• 24:47
  open
• 24:48
  to
• 24:48
  being
• 24:48
  okay.
• 24:49
  And
• 24:49
  so
• 24:49
  we
• 24:49
  have
• 24:50
  to,
• 24:50
  like,
• 24:51
  shift
• 24:52
  that
• 24:52
  mindset.
• 24:53
  And
• 24:53
  maybe
• 24:53
  they
• 24:53
  see
• 24:53
  a
• 24:54
  post
• 24:54
  or
• 24:54
  they
• 24:54
  see,
• 24:55
  you
• 24:55
  know,
• 24:55
  the
• 24:55
  webinar,
• 24:56
  they're
• 24:56
  like,
• 24:56
  okay,
• 24:57
  like,
• 24:57
  maybe
• 24:57
  it's
• 24:58
  possible.
• 24:58
  You
• 24:58
  know,
• 24:58
  maybe
• 24:59
  they
• 24:59
  start
• 24:59
  to
• 24:59
  entertain
• 25:00
  the
• 25:00
  idea
• 25:00
  that
• 25:00
  it's
• 25:01
  a
• 25:01
  possibility.
• 25:02
  And
• 25:02
  so
• 25:03
  that's
• 25:03
  kind
• 25:03
  of
• 25:04
  where
• 25:04
  I
• 25:04
  try
• 25:04
  to
• 25:04
  get
• 25:04
  people
• 25:05
  is
• 25:05
  like,
• 25:06
  showing
• 25:06
  them
• 25:07
  what's
• 25:07
  possible.
• 25:07
  Like,
• 25:09
  okay,
• 25:09
  you
• 25:10
  don't
• 25:10
  want
• 25:10
  to
• 25:10
  get
• 25:10
  out
• 25:10
  of
• 25:10
  bed
• 25:10
  in
• 25:11
  the
• 25:11
  morning.
• 25:11
  Okay,
• 25:12
  you
• 25:12
  don't
• 25:13
  have
• 25:13
  a
• 25:13
  desire
• 25:13
  to
• 25:13
  live
• 25:13
  anymore.
• 25:15
  That's
• 25:15
  normal.
• 25:16
  Like,
• 25:17
  I'm
• 25:17
  sorry,
• 25:17
  but
• 25:18
  that's
• 25:18
  normal.
• 25:19
  To
• 25:19
  lose
• 25:19
  your
• 25:19
  desire
• 25:20
  to
• 25:20
  live
• 25:20
  after
• 25:20
  you've
• 25:21
  had
• 25:21
  a
• 25:21
  major
• 25:21
  loss.
• 25:22
  It
• 25:23
  would
• 25:23
  be
• 25:23
  very
• 25:23
  strange
• 25:24
  if
• 25:24
  you
• 25:24
  weren't
• 25:25
  experiencing
• 25:26
  some
• 25:26
  depths
• 25:27
  of
• 25:27
  despair,
• 25:27
  you
• 25:28
  know?
• 25:28
  Yeah.
• 25:29
  Yeah.
• 25:29
  Jo
• 25:29
  Beth
• 25:30
  and
• 25:30
  I
• 25:30
  were
• 25:30
  talking
• 25:30
  in
• 25:30
  our
• 25:31
  pre
• 25:31
  planning
• 25:32
  session
• 25:33
  about,
• 25:34
  you
• 25:34
  know,
• 25:36
  I've
• 25:36
  never
• 25:36
  experienced
• 25:37
  death
• 25:37
  before,
• 25:37
  but
• 25:38
  my
• 25:38
  dog
• 25:38
  dying
• 25:39
  is
• 25:39
  my
• 25:39
  first
• 25:39
  death
• 25:41
  and
• 25:41
  how
• 25:41
  hard
• 25:42
  that's
• 25:42
  been
• 25:42
  to
• 25:42
  where
• 25:43
  I
• 25:43
  did.
• 25:43
  I
• 25:44
  just
• 25:44
  told
• 25:44
  you
• 25:44
  guys,
• 25:45
  accidentally
• 25:45
  over
• 25:45
  medicate
• 25:46
  myself.
• 25:46
  And
• 25:47
  Jobeth
• 25:48
  was
• 25:48
  really
• 25:49
  nice
• 25:49
  and
• 25:49
  like,
• 25:50
  no,
• 25:50
  that.
• 25:50
  That
• 25:51
  happens.
• 25:52
  Yeah.
• 25:53
  No,
• 25:53
  I
• 25:53
  mean,
• 25:54
  you
• 25:55
  know,
• 25:55
  most
• 25:55
  of
• 25:55
  us
• 25:55
  are
• 25:55
  experiencing
• 25:56
  grief
• 25:56
  for
• 25:56
  the
• 25:56
  first
• 25:57
  time,
• 25:57
  so
• 25:57
  we're
• 25:57
  just
• 25:57
  doing
• 25:58
  what
• 25:58
  we
• 25:58
  think
• 25:59
  is
• 25:59
  best
• 25:59
  doing.
• 26:00
  Doing.
• 26:00
  Doing
• 26:01
  the
• 26:01
  best
• 26:01
  we
• 26:01
  can.
• 26:01
  And
• 26:02
  until
• 26:02
  somebody
• 26:02
  comes
• 26:02
  and
• 26:02
  shows
• 26:03
  us
• 26:03
  a
• 26:03
  different
• 26:03
  way,
• 26:03
  then
• 26:04
  that's
• 26:04
  just
• 26:04
  kind
• 26:04
  of
• 26:04
  where
• 26:05
  we
• 26:05
  are.
• 26:05
  And
• 26:06
  there
• 26:06
  has
• 26:07
  to
• 26:07
  be
• 26:07
  a
• 26:07
  lot
• 26:07
  of
• 26:07
  grace
• 26:07
  and
• 26:08
  grieving.
• 26:08
  Like,
• 26:08
  there
• 26:08
  were
• 26:09
  things
• 26:09
  that
• 26:09
  I
• 26:10
  did
• 26:10
  that
• 26:10
  I
• 26:10
  was
• 26:10
  like,
• 26:10
  I
• 26:11
  probably
• 26:11
  could
• 26:11
  have
• 26:11
  done
• 26:11
  that
• 26:11
  a
• 26:11
  little
• 26:12
  Better.
• 26:12
  But
• 26:12
  at
• 26:12
  the
• 26:12
  same
• 26:13
  time,
• 26:13
  it's
• 26:13
  like,
• 26:13
  also
• 26:13
  realizing
• 26:14
  that,
• 26:14
  like,
• 26:14
  okay,
• 26:15
  this
• 26:15
  was
• 26:15
  my
• 26:15
  first
• 26:15
  time
• 26:16
  with
• 26:16
  this,
• 26:16
  so
• 26:17
  maybe,
• 26:17
  maybe
• 26:18
  I
• 26:18
  was
• 26:18
  okay.
• 26:18
  And
• 26:18
  I
• 26:18
  told.
• 26:18
  I
• 26:19
  told
• 26:19
  you
• 26:19
  I
• 26:19
  was
• 26:19
  like,
• 26:19
  well,
• 26:19
  you
• 26:20
  woke
• 26:20
  up,
• 26:20
  so
• 26:21
  you
• 26:21
  got
• 26:21
  the
• 26:21
  opportunity
• 26:22
  to
• 26:22
  do
• 26:22
  it
• 26:22
  differently,
• 26:23
  and
• 26:23
  you
• 26:23
  did,
• 26:23
  you
• 26:24
  know,
• 26:24
  and
• 26:24
  that's
• 26:24
  so
• 26:24
  amazing.
• 26:25
  And
• 26:25
  that's
• 26:25
  what.
• 26:26
  That's
• 26:26
  what
• 26:26
  we
• 26:26
  want,
• 26:26
  is
• 26:27
  to
• 26:27
  be
• 26:27
  like,
• 26:27
  okay,
• 26:27
  that
• 26:28
  was.
• 26:28
  That
• 26:28
  maybe
• 26:29
  was
• 26:29
  not
• 26:29
  the
• 26:29
  best
• 26:29
  decision.
• 26:30
  Let
• 26:30
  me
• 26:30
  do
• 26:30
  better
• 26:31
  this
• 26:31
  time.
• 26:31
  Let
• 26:31
  me
• 26:31
  do
• 26:32
  better
• 26:32
  today.
• 26:32
  Right.
• 26:33
  And
• 26:33
  not
• 26:34
  be
• 26:34
  hard
• 26:34
  on
• 26:34
  yourself,
• 26:35
  because
• 26:35
  I
• 26:35
  feel
• 26:35
  like
• 26:36
  probably
• 26:36
  you
• 26:36
  did
• 26:36
  what
• 26:37
  you
• 26:37
  could
• 26:37
  at
• 26:37
  the
• 26:37
  time.
• 26:38
  Yeah,
• 26:38
  for
• 26:39
  sure.
• 26:39
  Like,
• 26:39
  that's
• 26:39
  what
• 26:39
  I
• 26:40
  used
• 26:40
  to
• 26:40
  say.
• 26:40
  Yeah,
• 26:40
  I
• 26:41
  used
• 26:41
  to
• 26:41
  say
• 26:41
  that,
• 26:41
  like,
• 26:42
  there's
• 26:42
  no
• 26:42
  wrong
• 26:43
  way
• 26:43
  to
• 26:43
  grieve.
• 26:43
  We're
• 26:43
  all
• 26:44
  just
• 26:44
  doing
• 26:44
  the
• 26:44
  best
• 26:44
  we
• 26:44
  can.
• 26:45
  But
• 26:45
  that
• 26:46
  was
• 26:46
  before
• 26:46
  I
• 26:46
  started
• 26:47
  working
• 26:47
  with
• 26:47
  people
• 26:47
  who
• 26:47
  are
• 26:48
  grieving
• 26:48
  and
• 26:48
  doing
• 26:48
  it
• 26:48
  the
• 26:49
  wrong
• 26:49
  way.
• 26:49
  And
• 26:49
  this
• 26:49
  is.
• 26:50
  This
• 26:50
  is
• 26:50
  interesting.
• 26:51
  This
• 26:51
  is
• 26:51
  upsetting
• 26:51
  for
• 26:52
  people,
• 26:52
  too.
• 26:52
  So
• 26:53
  trigger
• 26:53
  warning.
• 26:54
  There
• 26:55
  is
• 26:55
  a
• 26:55
  wrong
• 26:55
  way
• 26:55
  to
• 26:55
  grieve,
• 26:57
  and
• 26:57
  it's
• 26:58
  a
• 26:58
  wrong
• 26:58
  way
• 26:58
  to
• 26:58
  grieve
• 26:59
  if
• 26:59
  you
• 26:59
  are
• 26:59
  hurting
• 27:00
  yourself
• 27:01
  or
• 27:01
  others.
• 27:02
  And
• 27:02
  when
• 27:02
  I
• 27:03
  talk
• 27:03
  about
• 27:03
  hurting
• 27:03
  yourself,
• 27:04
  it
• 27:04
  could
• 27:04
  be
• 27:05
  using
• 27:06
  your
• 27:06
  medications
• 27:06
  incorrectly.
• 27:07
  I
• 27:07
  see
• 27:07
  that
• 27:08
  happening
• 27:08
  a
• 27:08
  lot.
• 27:09
  Using
• 27:10
  any
• 27:10
  kind
• 27:10
  of
• 27:11
  drugs
• 27:11
  or
• 27:11
  alcohol
• 27:12
  or
• 27:12
  turning
• 27:13
  to
• 27:13
  some
• 27:13
  kind
• 27:13
  of
• 27:13
  addiction
• 27:14
  because
• 27:15
  of
• 27:15
  your
• 27:15
  grief
• 27:16
  like
• 27:16
  that.
• 27:16
  Like,
• 27:16
  there.
• 27:17
  I
• 27:17
  don't
• 27:17
  think
• 27:17
  there's
• 27:17
  anybody
• 27:18
  across
• 27:19
  the
• 27:19
  board
• 27:19
  that's
• 27:19
  going
• 27:19
  to
• 27:19
  say,
• 27:20
  like,
• 27:20
  yes,
• 27:20
  if
• 27:21
  you
• 27:21
  lose
• 27:22
  somebody
• 27:22
  and
• 27:22
  you
• 27:22
  need
• 27:23
  to
• 27:23
  use
• 27:23
  cocaine
• 27:24
  to
• 27:25
  feel
• 27:25
  better,
• 27:25
  it's
• 27:25
  okay.
• 27:26
  Like,
• 27:27
  it's
• 27:27
  just
• 27:27
  not.
• 27:28
  And
• 27:29
  like,
• 27:30
  some
• 27:30
  people
• 27:30
  go
• 27:30
  slower,
• 27:31
  some
• 27:31
  people
• 27:31
  go
• 27:31
  faster.
• 27:32
  Yeah,
• 27:32
  that's
• 27:33
  part
• 27:33
  of,
• 27:33
  like,
• 27:33
  it
• 27:33
  being,
• 27:34
  like,
• 27:34
  okay,
• 27:36
  using
• 27:36
  it
• 27:37
  to
• 27:37
  doing
• 27:37
  something
• 27:37
  that's
• 27:38
  harming
• 27:38
  yourself
• 27:39
  is
• 27:39
  never
• 27:40
  in
• 27:40
  my
• 27:40
  book.
• 27:41
  It's
• 27:41
  not
• 27:41
  okay.
• 27:42
  And
• 27:42
  it's
• 27:42
  not
• 27:43
  okay
• 27:43
  if
• 27:43
  you
• 27:43
  have,
• 27:44
  you
• 27:44
  know,
• 27:44
  you're
• 27:44
  hurting
• 27:45
  other
• 27:45
  people
• 27:45
  in
• 27:45
  your
• 27:45
  life.
• 27:46
  Your
• 27:46
  children,
• 27:46
  pops,
• 27:47
  a
• 27:47
  partner.
• 27:48
  Like,
• 27:48
  if
• 27:48
  it's
• 27:48
  causing
• 27:49
  damage,
• 27:49
  it's
• 27:49
  not
• 27:49
  the
• 27:50
  right.
• 27:50
  It's
• 27:50
  not
• 27:50
  the
• 27:50
  right
• 27:51
  way.
• 27:51
  You're
• 27:51
  talking
• 27:51
  about
• 27:51
  mentally
• 27:52
  hurting.
• 27:52
  Not
• 27:53
  like,
• 27:53
  I
• 27:53
  mean,
• 27:53
  I'm
• 27:53
  sure,
• 27:53
  maybe
• 27:54
  physically,
• 27:54
  but,
• 27:55
  like,
• 27:55
  mentally,
• 27:56
  Yeah.
• 27:56
  I
• 27:56
  mean,
• 27:57
  like,
• 27:57
  if
• 27:57
  you
• 27:57
  have
• 27:57
  kids
• 27:58
  and
• 27:58
  you're
• 28:00
  locking
• 28:00
  yourself
• 28:01
  in
• 28:01
  your
• 28:01
  bedroom
• 28:01
  every
• 28:01
  night
• 28:02
  and
• 28:02
  they're
• 28:02
  having
• 28:02
  to
• 28:03
  fend
• 28:03
  for
• 28:03
  themselves,
• 28:04
  or
• 28:04
  you're
• 28:05
  married,
• 28:05
  maybe
• 28:05
  you've
• 28:05
  lost
• 28:06
  a
• 28:06
  child
• 28:06
  and
• 28:07
  you
• 28:07
  shut
• 28:07
  your
• 28:07
  husband
• 28:08
  out
• 28:08
  and
• 28:08
  don't
• 28:09
  engage
• 28:10
  or
• 28:10
  have
• 28:10
  any
• 28:10
  relationship
• 28:11
  with
• 28:11
  him
• 28:11
  anymore,
• 28:12
  like,
• 28:14
  like
• 28:14
  I
• 28:14
  said
• 28:14
  in
• 28:15
  my
• 28:15
  book,
• 28:15
  that's
• 28:15
  not
• 28:15
  okay.
• 28:16
  Like,
• 28:16
  that's
• 28:16
  not
• 28:17
  what
• 28:17
  we
• 28:17
  want.
• 28:18
  And
• 28:18
  so
• 28:19
  when
• 28:19
  we're
• 28:19
  hurting,
• 28:19
  that's
• 28:20
  the
• 28:20
  time
• 28:20
  we
• 28:20
  bring
• 28:20
  our
• 28:20
  loved
• 28:21
  ones
• 28:21
  closer
• 28:21
  and
• 28:21
  not
• 28:21
  push
• 28:22
  them
• 28:22
  away.
• 28:22
  And,
• 28:22
  you
• 28:23
  know,
• 28:23
  some
• 28:23
  people
• 28:23
  choose
• 28:23
  to
• 28:24
  grieve
• 28:24
  in
• 28:24
  ways
• 28:24
  that
• 28:24
  push
• 28:25
  people
• 28:25
  away.
• 28:26
  And
• 28:26
  that's,
• 28:26
  you
• 28:27
  know,
• 28:27
  and
• 28:27
  that's
• 28:27
  totally
• 28:27
  different
• 28:28
  than
• 28:28
  being
• 28:28
  like,
• 28:28
  okay,
• 28:28
  mommy
• 28:29
  needs
• 28:29
  to
• 28:29
  shower
• 28:30
  alone
• 28:31
  tonight.
• 28:32
  You
• 28:32
  know,
• 28:32
  like,
• 28:33
  so
• 28:33
  I
• 28:33
  need
• 28:33
  a
• 28:33
  second.
• 28:34
  This
• 28:34
  is
• 28:34
  different.
• 28:35
  Yeah.
• 28:36
  So,
• 28:36
  like,
• 28:36
  a
• 28:37
  lot
• 28:37
  of
• 28:37
  people,
• 28:37
  when
• 28:37
  they're
• 28:38
  in
• 28:38
  that,
• 28:38
  like,
• 28:39
  that
• 28:40
  feeling,
• 28:40
  like
• 28:40
  they're
• 28:41
  in
• 28:41
  that
• 28:41
  dark
• 28:41
  hole,
• 28:42
  like
• 28:42
  you
• 28:42
  called
• 28:42
  it,
• 28:44
  you
• 28:44
  can't
• 28:44
  really
• 28:45
  sometimes
• 28:46
  tell
• 28:46
  that
• 28:46
  you're
• 28:46
  even
• 28:46
  there.
• 28:47
  You
• 28:48
  do,
• 28:48
  you
• 28:48
  know
• 28:48
  what
• 28:48
  I
• 28:48
  mean?
• 28:49
  Like,
• 28:49
  and
• 28:49
  it
• 28:50
  might
• 28:50
  take
• 28:50
  somebody
• 28:50
  else
• 28:51
  to
• 28:51
  come
• 28:51
  in
• 28:51
  and
• 28:51
  say,
• 28:52
  so
• 28:52
  do
• 28:52
  you
• 28:53
  have,
• 28:53
  like,
• 28:53
  suggestions
• 28:54
  for
• 28:54
  people,
• 28:54
  too?
• 28:54
  Because
• 28:55
  I'm
• 28:55
  wondering,
• 28:55
  like,
• 28:55
  how
• 28:56
  do
• 28:56
  we
• 28:56
  get.
• 28:56
  People
• 28:57
  are
• 28:58
  like,
• 28:58
  how
• 28:58
  do
• 28:58
  you
• 28:59
  get
• 28:59
  people
• 29:00
  to
• 29:00
  find
• 29:00
  you
• 29:01
  when
• 29:02
  they
• 29:02
  don't
• 29:02
  even
• 29:02
  know
• 29:02
  that
• 29:02
  they
• 29:03
  need
• 29:03
  you?
• 29:03
  Does
• 29:03
  that
• 29:04
  make
• 29:04
  sense?
• 29:04
  Yeah.
• 29:04
  I
• 29:04
  mean,
• 29:05
  I've
• 29:05
  had
• 29:05
  lots
• 29:05
  of
• 29:05
  people
• 29:06
  who,
• 29:06
  like,
• 29:06
  will
• 29:06
  send
• 29:07
  family
• 29:08
  members
• 29:08
  my
• 29:08
  website
• 29:08
  and
• 29:09
  be
• 29:09
  like,
• 29:09
  I'll
• 29:10
  pay
• 29:10
  for.
• 29:11
  Pay
• 29:11
  for
• 29:11
  you
• 29:11
  to
• 29:11
  work
• 29:11
  with
• 29:12
  her.
• 29:12
  You
• 29:12
  know,
• 29:12
  I'll.
• 29:13
  I'll
• 29:13
  do
• 29:13
  my
• 29:13
  part.
• 29:14
  That
• 29:14
  doesn't
• 29:15
  sound
• 29:15
  like
• 29:15
  it
• 29:15
  works.
• 29:17
  I
• 29:17
  mean,
• 29:18
  because
• 29:18
  they
• 29:18
  don't
• 29:19
  want
• 29:19
  it.
• 29:20
  Ah.
• 29:20
  And
• 29:21
  when
• 29:21
  they
• 29:21
  don't
• 29:21
  want
• 29:21
  it,
• 29:22
  yeah,
• 29:22
  they
• 29:22
  have
• 29:22
  to
• 29:23
  be
• 29:23
  ready.
• 29:23
  And
• 29:23
  like,
• 29:23
  like
• 29:24
  I
• 29:24
  said,
• 29:24
  like,
• 29:24
  just
• 29:25
  giving
• 29:25
  little.
• 29:25
  Like,
• 29:26
  maybe
• 29:26
  they
• 29:26
  come
• 29:26
  across
• 29:27
  anything
• 29:27
  that's,
• 29:28
  like,
• 29:29
  positive.
• 29:29
  And
• 29:30
  as
• 29:30
  a
• 29:30
  griever,
• 29:30
  like,
• 29:31
  I'm
• 29:31
  in
• 29:31
  all
• 29:31
  the
• 29:31
  grief
• 29:31
  groups,
• 29:32
  I
• 29:32
  mostly
• 29:32
  am
• 29:33
  just
• 29:33
  standing
• 29:33
  back
• 29:33
  watching
• 29:34
  what's
• 29:34
  happening.
• 29:35
  But
• 29:35
  it's
• 29:36
  a
• 29:36
  lot
• 29:36
  of
• 29:36
  people
• 29:37
  posting
• 29:37
  stuff
• 29:38
  like,
• 29:39
  you're
• 29:40
  gone
• 29:40
  and
• 29:40
  I
• 29:41
  will
• 29:41
  miss
• 29:41
  you
• 29:41
  every
• 29:42
  day
• 29:42
  until
• 29:42
  I'm
• 29:43
  with
• 29:43
  you
• 29:43
  again.
• 29:43
  And
• 29:44
  it's
• 29:44
  like,
• 29:44
  okay,
• 29:47
  gosh,
• 29:47
  I
• 29:47
  don't
• 29:47
  want
• 29:48
  to
• 29:48
  make
• 29:48
  people
• 29:48
  mad,
• 29:48
  but
• 29:48
  it's
• 29:49
  like,
• 29:49
  anytime
• 29:50
  you're
• 29:50
  feeding
• 29:50
  that
• 29:51
  negativity
• 29:51
  into
• 29:52
  you,
• 29:52
  like,
• 29:52
  I'm
• 29:53
  going
• 29:53
  to
• 29:53
  feel
• 29:53
  this
• 29:53
  way
• 29:54
  the
• 29:54
  rest
• 29:54
  of
• 29:54
  my
• 29:54
  life.
• 29:55
  Like,
• 29:56
  that's
• 29:56
  not
• 29:56
  good.
• 29:57
  So
• 29:57
  they're
• 29:57
  seeing
• 29:57
  more
• 29:58
  of
• 29:58
  that
• 29:58
  than
• 29:58
  they
• 29:58
  are
• 29:59
  positive
• 29:59
  stuff.
• 29:59
  And
• 29:59
  I
• 30:00
  think
• 30:00
  that
• 30:00
  definitely
• 30:00
  is,
• 30:00
  like,
• 30:01
  playing
• 30:01
  into
• 30:01
  them
• 30:01
  being
• 30:01
  like,
• 30:01
  oh,
• 30:02
  this
• 30:02
  is
• 30:02
  just
• 30:02
  life
• 30:02
  now.
• 30:03
  This
• 30:03
  is
• 30:03
  how
• 30:03
  it's
• 30:03
  going
• 30:04
  to
• 30:04
  be
• 30:04
  forever.
• 30:04
  It's
• 30:04
  like
• 30:04
  what
• 30:04
  Terry
• 30:05
  Christine
• 30:05
  said.
• 30:06
  She
• 30:06
  said,
• 30:06
  I
• 30:06
  cannot
• 30:06
  want
• 30:07
  to
• 30:07
  heal
• 30:07
  you
• 30:07
  more
• 30:07
  than
• 30:07
  you
• 30:08
  want
• 30:08
  to
• 30:08
  heal
• 30:08
  yourself.
• 30:09
  Otherwise,
• 30:09
  this
• 30:09
  will
• 30:10
  not
• 30:10
  work.
• 30:10
  And
• 30:10
  she's
• 30:11
  had
• 30:11
  to
• 30:11
  let
• 30:11
  people
• 30:11
  go.
• 30:13
  So
• 30:16
  I
• 30:16
  feel
• 30:16
  like
• 30:17
  there
• 30:17
  has
• 30:17
  to
• 30:17
  be
• 30:17
  steps.
• 30:18
  You
• 30:18
  said
• 30:18
  you
• 30:18
  feel
• 30:18
  that
• 30:18
  you've
• 30:19
  created
• 30:19
  a
• 30:19
  blueprint.
• 30:20
  What
• 30:20
  are
• 30:20
  these
• 30:20
  steps
• 30:21
  that
• 30:21
  someone
• 30:21
  takes
• 30:22
  to
• 30:23
  move
• 30:23
  towards
• 30:24
  recovery?
• 30:25
  Recovery?
• 30:25
  Is
• 30:25
  that
• 30:25
  the
• 30:25
  word?
• 30:26
  Yeah,
• 30:26
  I
• 30:26
  would
• 30:26
  use
• 30:26
  recovery
• 30:27
  or
• 30:27
  healing.
• 30:28
  And
• 30:28
  that's
• 30:28
  another
• 30:29
  controversial
• 30:29
  thing.
• 30:29
  Some
• 30:30
  people
• 30:30
  say
• 30:30
  you
• 30:30
  can't
• 30:30
  heal.
• 30:31
  And
• 30:31
  I'm
• 30:31
  like,
• 30:31
  well,
• 30:31
  I
• 30:32
  don't
• 30:32
  agree
• 30:32
  with
• 30:32
  that.
• 30:32
  It's
• 30:33
  just
• 30:33
  not
• 30:33
  a.
• 30:33
  It's
• 30:33
  not
• 30:33
  a
• 30:34
  concept
• 30:34
  I
• 30:34
  buy
• 30:34
  into.
• 30:36
  But
• 30:36
  yeah,
• 30:36
  so,
• 30:37
  yeah,
• 30:38
  it's
• 30:38
  not
• 30:38
  necessarily
• 30:39
  like
• 30:39
  steps.
• 30:39
  It's
• 30:40
  more
• 30:40
  like
• 30:40
  a
• 30:40
  group
• 30:40
  of
• 30:40
  things
• 30:41
  that
• 30:41
  come
• 30:41
  together
• 30:41
  so
• 30:42
  you
• 30:42
  have
• 30:42
  to
• 30:42
  be
• 30:42
  educated.
• 30:43
  And
• 30:43
  so
• 30:44
  one
• 30:44
  of
• 30:44
  the
• 30:44
  things
• 30:44
  that,
• 30:45
  you
• 30:45
  know,
• 30:45
  we
• 30:45
  wanted
• 30:45
  to
• 30:45
  talk
• 30:46
  about
• 30:46
  were
• 30:46
  the
• 30:46
  stages
• 30:47
  of
• 30:47
  grief.
• 30:48
  Right.
• 30:48
  And
• 30:49
  what,
• 30:49
  what
• 30:49
  those
• 30:50
  are?
• 30:50
  Well,
• 30:50
  the
• 30:50
  stages
• 30:51
  of
• 30:51
  grief.
• 30:51
  And
• 30:51
  you
• 30:51
  can
• 30:51
  find
• 30:52
  a
• 30:52
  free
• 30:52
  ebook
• 30:52
  on
• 30:52
  my
• 30:53
  website
• 30:53
  that
• 30:53
  talks
• 30:54
  about
• 30:54
  it.
• 30:55
  But
• 30:56
  the
• 30:56
  stages
• 30:56
  of
• 30:56
  grief
• 30:57
  were
• 30:57
  written
• 30:57
  for
• 30:58
  somebody
• 30:58
  who
• 30:58
  is
• 30:58
  dying.
• 30:59
  Okay.
• 31:00
  They're
• 31:00
  not
• 31:01
  written
• 31:01
  for
• 31:01
  somebody
• 31:02
  who's
• 31:02
  living
• 31:02
  and
• 31:03
  living
• 31:03
  with
• 31:03
  that
• 31:03
  kind
• 31:04
  of
• 31:04
  grief.
• 31:04
  And
• 31:04
  so
• 31:04
  I
• 31:04
  think
• 31:05
  that's
• 31:05
  what
• 31:05
  we
• 31:05
  need
• 31:05
  to
• 31:05
  keep
• 31:05
  in
• 31:05
  mind.
• 31:06
  But
• 31:06
  those
• 31:07
  stages
• 31:07
  are
• 31:08
  denial,
• 31:09
  anger,
• 31:10
  bargaining,
• 31:10
  depression,
• 31:11
  acceptance.
• 31:12
  Okay,
• 31:12
  wait,
• 31:13
  do
• 31:13
  you
• 31:13
  mean
• 31:13
  that
• 31:14
  they're.
• 31:14
  Written
• 31:14
  for
• 31:14
  somebody
• 31:15
  who
• 31:15
  found
• 31:16
  out
• 31:16
  they're
• 31:16
  going
• 31:16
  to
• 31:17
  die?
• 31:18
  Oh,
• 31:19
  that's
• 31:19
  why
• 31:19
  the
• 31:19
  lady.
• 31:20
  That's
• 31:20
  why
• 31:20
  the
• 31:21
  lady
• 31:21
  wrote
• 31:21
  those.
• 31:21
  But
• 31:22
  we've
• 31:22
  all
• 31:22
  taken
• 31:22
  them
• 31:22
  on
• 31:23
  as
• 31:23
  like,
• 31:23
  this
• 31:23
  is
• 31:24
  it.
• 31:24
  These
• 31:24
  are
• 31:24
  the
• 31:24
  stages
• 31:25
  that
• 31:25
  I'm
• 31:25
  gonna
• 31:25
  go
• 31:25
  through.
• 31:26
  Yeah.
• 31:27
  And
• 31:27
  it's
• 31:27
  not
• 31:27
  so,
• 31:28
  like,
• 31:28
  I
• 31:28
  never
• 31:29
  went
• 31:29
  through
• 31:29
  denial.
• 31:30
  I
• 31:30
  never
• 31:30
  went
• 31:30
  through
• 31:31
  anger,
• 31:31
  I
• 31:32
  never
• 31:32
  went
• 31:32
  through
• 31:32
  bargaining.
• 31:33
  But
• 31:33
  I
• 31:33
  did
• 31:34
  have
• 31:34
  depression
• 31:34
  and
• 31:34
  acceptance.
• 31:35
  So
• 31:35
  like,
• 31:36
  so
• 31:36
  if
• 31:36
  I
• 31:36
  was
• 31:36
  a
• 31:37
  griever
• 31:37
  and
• 31:37
  I
• 31:37
  was
• 31:37
  buying
• 31:38
  into
• 31:38
  the
• 31:38
  idea
• 31:38
  that
• 31:38
  I
• 31:38
  had
• 31:39
  to
• 31:39
  go
• 31:39
  through,
• 31:39
  like,
• 31:39
  all
• 31:40
  these
• 31:40
  steps.
• 31:42
  Oh,
• 31:42
  like,
• 31:42
  I
• 31:43
  would
• 31:43
  be
• 31:43
  like,
• 31:43
  waiting,
• 31:43
  like,
• 31:44
  oh,
• 31:44
  when's
• 31:44
  the
• 31:44
  denial
• 31:45
  gonna
• 31:45
  hit?
• 31:45
  Like,
• 31:45
  I'm
• 31:46
  just
• 31:46
  waiting
• 31:46
  for
• 31:46
  the
• 31:46
  next
• 31:46
  thing.
• 31:48
  But
• 31:48
  I
• 31:48
  do
• 31:48
  want
• 31:48
  to
• 31:48
  also
• 31:49
  clarify
• 31:50
  what
• 31:50
  you
• 31:50
  and
• 31:50
  I
• 31:51
  jobeth
• 31:51
  talked
• 31:52
  about
• 31:52
  when
• 31:52
  we
• 31:52
  were
• 31:53
  doing
• 31:53
  our
• 31:53
  planning
• 31:53
  session
• 31:54
  is
• 31:54
  that
• 31:54
  grieving
• 31:55
  isn't
• 31:55
  just
• 31:55
  the
• 31:55
  death.
• 31:56
  It
• 31:56
  can
• 31:56
  be,
• 31:57
  oh,
• 31:57
  I've
• 31:57
  lost
• 31:58
  a
• 31:58
  limb,
• 31:58
  I've
• 31:59
  lost
• 31:59
  a
• 31:59
  partner,
• 31:59
  I've
• 32:00
  lost,
• 32:00
  like
• 32:00
  in
• 32:01
  divorce.
• 32:03
  It's
• 32:03
  not.
• 32:03
  Grieving
• 32:04
  is
• 32:04
  not
• 32:04
  just
• 32:05
  death.
• 32:06
  So
• 32:06
  I
• 32:06
  actually
• 32:07
  think
• 32:07
  it's
• 32:08
  very
• 32:09
  appliable
• 32:10
  that
• 32:10
  you
• 32:10
  mention
• 32:11
  that
• 32:11
  the
• 32:12
  steps
• 32:12
  of
• 32:12
  grieving
• 32:13
  were
• 32:13
  written
• 32:13
  for
• 32:14
  not
• 32:14
  the
• 32:14
  living.
• 32:15
  Right.
• 32:17
  Because
• 32:17
  we
• 32:18
  are
• 32:18
  living
• 32:19
  through
• 32:19
  all
• 32:19
  these
• 32:19
  different
• 32:20
  types
• 32:20
  of
• 32:20
  grief.
• 32:21
  Yeah.
• 32:22
  Right.
• 32:22
  Yeah.
• 32:22
  So
• 32:23
  it
• 32:23
  looks.
• 32:23
  It
• 32:24
  looks
• 32:24
  different
• 32:25
  like
• 32:25
  when
• 32:25
  you're.
• 32:26
  You've
• 32:26
  lost
• 32:26
  a
• 32:27
  limb
• 32:27
  or
• 32:27
  you've
• 32:27
  lost
• 32:28
  a
• 32:28
  marriage
• 32:28
  or.
• 32:29
  Yeah.
• 32:29
  And
• 32:29
  I
• 32:29
  think
• 32:30
  I.
• 32:31
  Yeah,
• 32:31
  we
• 32:31
  kind
• 32:31
  of
• 32:32
  like
• 32:32
  take
• 32:32
  grief
• 32:32
  and
• 32:32
  we
• 32:32
  say,
• 32:32
  okay,
• 32:33
  it's
• 32:33
  just
• 32:33
  for
• 32:33
  the
• 32:33
  dying.
• 32:34
  But.
• 32:34
  And
• 32:34
  you
• 32:34
  and
• 32:34
  I
• 32:34
  talked
• 32:35
  about
• 32:35
  in
• 32:35
  the
• 32:35
  pre
• 32:35
  call
• 32:35
  that,
• 32:36
  like,
• 32:37
  in
• 32:37
  a
• 32:37
  lot
• 32:37
  of
• 32:37
  ways,
• 32:38
  divorce
• 32:38
  is
• 32:38
  worse.
• 32:40
  And.
• 32:40
  Because
• 32:40
  that's
• 32:40
  what
• 32:40
  you
• 32:41
  were
• 32:41
  saying.
• 32:41
  Because,
• 32:42
  like,
• 32:42
  just
• 32:42
  from
• 32:43
  what
• 32:43
  I've
• 32:43
  experienced,
• 32:44
  because
• 32:44
  I
• 32:44
  have
• 32:44
  my
• 32:44
  experience
• 32:45
  and
• 32:45
  I've
• 32:45
  watched
• 32:45
  people
• 32:45
  who
• 32:45
  are
• 32:46
  divorced,
• 32:46
  but
• 32:46
  I
• 32:47
  will
• 32:47
  never
• 32:47
  see
• 32:47
  my
• 32:47
  husband
• 32:48
  with
• 32:48
  another
• 32:48
  woman.
• 32:49
  He
• 32:49
  will
• 32:49
  never
• 32:49
  have
• 32:50
  children
• 32:50
  with
• 32:50
  another
• 32:50
  woman.
• 32:52
  I'm
• 32:52
  never.
• 32:52
  He's
• 32:53
  never
• 32:53
  going
• 32:53
  to
• 32:53
  hurt
• 32:53
  me
• 32:54
  beyond
• 32:55
  what's
• 32:55
  happened.
• 32:56
  Whereas
• 32:56
  with
• 32:56
  divorce,
• 32:57
  you
• 32:57
  know,
• 32:57
  we
• 32:57
  see,
• 32:58
  you
• 32:58
  know,
• 32:58
  you
• 32:58
  have
• 32:58
  to
• 32:58
  adjust
• 32:59
  to
• 32:59
  them
• 32:59
  dating
• 32:59
  and
• 33:00
  then
• 33:00
  you
• 33:00
  have
• 33:00
  to
• 33:00
  see
• 33:00
  them
• 33:01
  potentially
• 33:01
  have
• 33:01
  kids
• 33:01
  with
• 33:02
  somebody
• 33:02
  else
• 33:02
  and
• 33:02
  build
• 33:03
  this
• 33:03
  life.
• 33:03
  Like,
• 33:03
  it's
• 33:04
  like
• 33:04
  this
• 33:05
  keeps
• 33:05
  hurting.
• 33:06
  Right.
• 33:06
  There's
• 33:06
  these
• 33:07
  harsh
• 33:07
  words.
• 33:08
  Yeah,
• 33:08
  the
• 33:08
  words,
• 33:09
  the.
• 33:09
  All
• 33:09
  the
• 33:10
  things.
• 33:10
  And
• 33:11
  so,
• 33:11
  like,
• 33:11
  golly,
• 33:12
  yeah.
• 33:13
  Divorces.
• 33:13
  How
• 33:14
  come
• 33:14
  they
• 33:14
  can
• 33:14
  build
• 33:14
  this
• 33:15
  another
• 33:15
  life
• 33:15
  and
• 33:16
  be
• 33:16
  what
• 33:16
  this
• 33:16
  person
• 33:17
  needs,
• 33:17
  but
• 33:17
  they
• 33:17
  couldn't
• 33:18
  for
• 33:18
  me.
• 33:18
  Or
• 33:19
  maybe
• 33:20
  that's
• 33:20
  just
• 33:20
  one.
• 33:21
  No,
• 33:21
  it's
• 33:21
  hurt.
• 33:21
  Yeah.
• 33:22
  It's
• 33:22
  a
• 33:22
  continuous.
• 33:22
  It's.
• 33:23
  It's.
• 33:23
  It's
• 33:23
  continuous.
• 33:24
  Where
• 33:24
  was
• 33:24
  my.
• 33:25
  Mine
• 33:25
  was
• 33:25
  like,
• 33:25
  had
• 33:25
  a
• 33:26
  finite
• 33:26
  end.
• 33:26
  Like,
• 33:27
  it
• 33:27
  was
• 33:27
  just
• 33:27
  like,
• 33:27
  here
• 33:27
  it
• 33:27
  is.
• 33:28
  It's
• 33:28
  over.
• 33:28
  Like,
• 33:28
  there.
• 33:29
  There
• 33:29
  will
• 33:29
  be
• 33:29
  nothing
• 33:29
  else
• 33:30
  exist
• 33:30
  with
• 33:30
  this
• 33:31
  relationship.
• 33:32
  No
• 33:32
  more
• 33:32
  hurt
• 33:32
  to
• 33:33
  move
• 33:33
  forward.
• 33:33
  Yeah.
• 33:33
  And
• 33:34
  so
• 33:34
  divorce
• 33:34
  is
• 33:34
  really
• 33:35
  tough.
• 33:35
  But
• 33:35
  so
• 33:36
  if
• 33:36
  you're
• 33:36
  listening
• 33:36
  and
• 33:36
  you're
• 33:37
  like,
• 33:38
  you
• 33:38
  know,
• 33:38
  I'm
• 33:38
  grieving
• 33:39
  the
• 33:39
  loss
• 33:39
  of
• 33:39
  my
• 33:39
  marriage.
• 33:40
  I'm
• 33:40
  grieving
• 33:40
  the
• 33:41
  loss
• 33:41
  of
• 33:41
  my.
• 33:41
  I
• 33:41
  didn't
• 33:41
  tell
• 33:41
  you,
• 33:41
  but
• 33:42
  that's
• 33:42
  what
• 33:42
  we
• 33:42
  have
• 33:42
  right
• 33:43
  here.
• 33:43
  My
• 33:43
  grieving
• 33:44
  is
• 33:44
  my
• 33:44
  dog.
• 33:44
  Her
• 33:45
  grieving
• 33:45
  is
• 33:45
  a
• 33:45
  divorce.
• 33:46
  Yeah,
• 33:47
  yeah,
• 33:47
  yeah.
• 33:47
  So,
• 33:48
  I
• 33:48
  mean,
• 33:48
  it's.
• 33:48
  And,
• 33:48
  you
• 33:48
  know,
• 33:49
  it's
• 33:49
  very
• 33:49
  real.
• 33:50
  And
• 33:50
  you
• 33:50
  may
• 33:51
  have.
• 33:51
  You've
• 33:51
  probably
• 33:51
  experienced
• 33:52
  the.
• 33:53
  Some
• 33:53
  of
• 33:53
  the
• 33:54
  stages.
• 33:55
  Yeah,
• 33:56
  I
• 33:56
  kind
• 33:56
  of
• 33:56
  want
• 33:57
  to
• 33:57
  throw
• 33:57
  out
• 33:57
  one
• 33:57
  more
• 33:57
  thing,
• 33:58
  too.
• 33:58
  Like,
• 34:00
  part
• 34:00
  of
• 34:00
  me
• 34:00
  feels
• 34:01
  like
• 34:01
  I
• 34:01
  shouldn't
• 34:01
  be
• 34:01
  grieving
• 34:02
  because
• 34:02
  I'm
• 34:03
  the
• 34:03
  one
• 34:03
  that
• 34:03
  initiated
• 34:04
  it,
• 34:05
  but
• 34:06
  there's
• 34:06
  still
• 34:07
  a
• 34:07
  bunch
• 34:07
  of,
• 34:08
  like,
• 34:08
  there's
• 34:08
  still
• 34:09
  grief.
• 34:10
  And
• 34:10
  I
• 34:10
  feel
• 34:10
  like
• 34:11
  if
• 34:11
  I
• 34:11
  feel
• 34:11
  that
• 34:12
  way,
• 34:12
  then
• 34:12
  other
• 34:12
  people
• 34:12
  have
• 34:13
  got
• 34:13
  to
• 34:13
  be
• 34:13
  feeling
• 34:13
  that
• 34:13
  way.
• 34:13
  And
• 34:14
  I
• 34:14
  don't
• 34:14
  think
• 34:14
  it's
• 34:14
  the
• 34:14
  right.
• 34:15
  You
• 34:15
  were
• 34:15
  feeling
• 34:15
  bad
• 34:15
  about
• 34:16
  that.
• 34:16
  You're
• 34:16
  like,
• 34:16
  I
• 34:16
  feel
• 34:16
  guilty.
• 34:17
  Like,
• 34:17
  I
• 34:17
  shouldn't
• 34:17
  be
• 34:17
  sad.
• 34:18
  I'm
• 34:18
  the
• 34:18
  one
• 34:18
  who
• 34:18
  initiated.
• 34:19
  But
• 34:20
  then
• 34:20
  in
• 34:20
  the
• 34:20
  same
• 34:21
  sentence,
• 34:21
  he
• 34:21
  told
• 34:22
  me,
• 34:22
  but
• 34:22
  he
• 34:22
  was
• 34:22
  my
• 34:23
  best
• 34:23
  friend
• 34:23
  and
• 34:24
  he
• 34:24
  changed.
• 34:25
  And.
• 34:25
  Yeah.
• 34:26
  Yeah,
• 34:26
  I
• 34:27
  have
• 34:27
  to
• 34:27
  change.
• 34:27
  Okay,
• 34:28
  so
• 34:28
  can
• 34:28
  I
• 34:28
  coach
• 34:28
  you
• 34:29
  on
• 34:29
  that,
• 34:29
  please?
• 34:30
  So
• 34:31
  the
• 34:31
  first
• 34:31
  thing
• 34:32
  is,
• 34:32
  is
• 34:33
  that
• 34:33
  it.
• 34:33
  It
• 34:33
  was
• 34:33
  a
• 34:34
  loss
• 34:34
  period.
• 34:35
  So,
• 34:35
  like,
• 34:35
  you
• 34:36
  need
• 34:36
  to
• 34:36
  validate
• 34:36
  that
• 34:37
  immediately.
• 34:37
  And
• 34:38
  I
• 34:38
  would
• 34:38
  try
• 34:38
  to
• 34:38
  stop
• 34:39
  thinking
• 34:39
  about,
• 34:39
  well,
• 34:40
  I
• 34:40
  shouldn't.
• 34:42
  Thinking
• 34:42
  I
• 34:42
  shouldn't
• 34:43
  isn't
• 34:43
  going
• 34:43
  to
• 34:43
  get
• 34:43
  you
• 34:43
  anywhere
• 34:44
  but
• 34:44
  addressing
• 34:45
  why
• 34:45
  you
• 34:46
  should.
• 34:46
  You
• 34:46
  know,
• 34:47
  like,
• 34:47
  he.
• 34:47
  He
• 34:47
  was
• 34:48
  your
• 34:48
  best
• 34:48
  friend.
• 34:48
  You
• 34:48
  had
• 34:49
  years.
• 34:49
  There
• 34:49
  were
• 34:49
  years
• 34:49
  that
• 34:50
  were
• 34:50
  good.
• 34:51
  Like,
• 34:51
  you
• 34:51
  chose
• 34:51
  to
• 34:52
  marry
• 34:52
  him.
• 34:52
  Like,
• 34:52
  you
• 34:52
  enjoyed
• 34:53
  being
• 34:53
  married
• 34:54
  to
• 34:54
  him
• 34:54
  for
• 34:54
  a
• 34:54
  while.
• 34:55
  And
• 34:55
  so
• 34:55
  those
• 34:56
  are
• 34:56
  things,
• 34:56
  like,
• 34:56
  if
• 34:56
  you
• 34:57
  were
• 34:57
  a
• 34:57
  client
• 34:57
  of
• 34:58
  mine,
• 34:58
  like,
• 34:58
  we
• 34:58
  would
• 34:58
  go
• 34:59
  through
• 34:59
  and
• 34:59
  we
• 34:59
  would
• 34:59
  celebrate
• 35:00
  that.
• 35:00
  And
• 35:01
  not,
• 35:01
  like,
• 35:01
  we're
• 35:02
  not
• 35:02
  cake
• 35:02
  and
• 35:02
  candles.
• 35:03
  Okay.
• 35:03
  But,
• 35:04
  like,
• 35:04
  we're,
• 35:04
  like,
• 35:05
  we're
• 35:05
  talking
• 35:05
  about,
• 35:06
  like,
• 35:06
  giving
• 35:07
  voice
• 35:07
  to
• 35:07
  it
• 35:07
  and
• 35:08
  saying,
• 35:08
  you
• 35:08
  know,
• 35:08
  like,
• 35:09
  whatever
• 35:09
  his
• 35:09
  name
• 35:09
  is.
• 35:09
  Remember
• 35:10
  that
• 35:10
  good
• 35:10
  time.
• 35:10
  Yeah.
• 35:11
  Like,
• 35:11
  thank
• 35:11
  you.
• 35:11
  Like,
• 35:12
  verbally
• 35:12
  saying
• 35:13
  thank
• 35:13
  you
• 35:13
  for
• 35:14
  all
• 35:14
  those
• 35:14
  good
• 35:15
  years.
• 35:15
  Like,
• 35:15
  it
• 35:15
  was
• 35:16
  so
• 35:16
  wonderful.
• 35:17
  And
• 35:17
  then
• 35:17
  we
• 35:17
  can
• 35:17
  also
• 35:18
  go
• 35:18
  back
• 35:18
  and
• 35:18
  say,
• 35:19
  like,
• 35:20
  you
• 35:20
  know,
• 35:20
  like,
• 35:20
  I.
• 35:21
  One
• 35:21
  of
• 35:21
  the
• 35:21
  big
• 35:22
  things
• 35:22
  that
• 35:22
  we
• 35:22
  talk
• 35:22
  about
• 35:22
  is,
• 35:22
  like,
• 35:23
  giving.
• 35:23
  Giving
• 35:23
  words
• 35:24
  to
• 35:24
  stuff.
• 35:24
  So,
• 35:24
  like,
• 35:25
  if
• 35:25
  there
• 35:25
  was
• 35:25
  something
• 35:25
  like
• 35:26
  that
• 35:26
  you
• 35:26
  couldn't
• 35:26
  forgive
• 35:27
  him
• 35:27
  for,
• 35:28
  we
• 35:28
  want
• 35:29
  to
• 35:29
  validate
• 35:29
  that.
• 35:30
  So
• 35:30
  it's
• 35:30
  like,
• 35:31
  let's
• 35:31
  say
• 35:31
  this
• 35:31
  is
• 35:32
  not
• 35:32
  your
• 35:32
  situation.
• 35:33
  So
• 35:33
  to
• 35:33
  clear
• 35:33
  up
• 35:34
  anybody
• 35:34
  who's
• 35:34
  listening.
• 35:35
  But
• 35:35
  if,
• 35:35
  like,
• 35:35
  there
• 35:36
  was
• 35:36
  a
• 35:36
  situation
• 35:36
  where
• 35:36
  somebody
• 35:37
  molested
• 35:38
  you,
• 35:39
  you
• 35:39
  would
• 35:40
  probably
• 35:40
  wouldn't
• 35:40
  be
• 35:40
  at
• 35:40
  a
• 35:40
  place
• 35:40
  where
• 35:41
  you
• 35:41
  could
• 35:41
  forgive
• 35:41
  them.
• 35:42
  Okay.
• 35:42
  But
• 35:43
  what
• 35:43
  we
• 35:43
  want
• 35:43
  to
• 35:44
  do
• 35:44
  is
• 35:44
  give
• 35:44
  voice
• 35:45
  to
• 35:45
  that.
• 35:45
  So
• 35:45
  we
• 35:45
  would
• 35:45
  say
• 35:46
  something
• 35:46
  like,
• 35:47
  let's
• 35:47
  say
• 35:47
  it's
• 35:47
  John.
• 35:48
  I'm
• 35:48
  so
• 35:48
  sorry
• 35:48
  if
• 35:49
  there's
• 35:49
  a
• 35:49
  John
• 35:49
  listening.
• 35:51
  When
• 35:52
  you
• 35:52
  molested
• 35:53
  me,
• 35:53
  it
• 35:54
  made
• 35:54
  me
• 35:54
  feel
• 35:54
  very
• 35:55
  scared,
• 35:55
  and
• 35:56
  you
• 35:56
  took
• 35:56
  my
• 35:56
  sense
• 35:57
  of
• 35:57
  trust
• 35:57
  and
• 35:58
  safety
• 35:58
  from
• 35:59
  me.
• 35:59
  And
• 36:00
  I'm
• 36:00
  not
• 36:01
  going
• 36:01
  to
• 36:01
  carry
• 36:02
  the
• 36:02
  weight
• 36:02
  of
• 36:02
  that
• 36:02
  anymore
• 36:03
  or
• 36:04
  I'm
• 36:04
  not
• 36:04
  going
• 36:04
  to
• 36:05
  let
• 36:05
  that
• 36:05
  hurt
• 36:05
  me
• 36:05
  anymore.
• 36:06
  I'm
• 36:06
  not
• 36:06
  going
• 36:06
  to
• 36:06
  carry
• 36:07
  the
• 36:07
  burden
• 36:07
  of
• 36:07
  that
• 36:08
  anymore.
• 36:08
  Something
• 36:08
  along
• 36:09
  those
• 36:09
  lines.
• 36:10
  Because,
• 36:10
  like,
• 36:10
  we
• 36:11
  can't
• 36:11
  just
• 36:11
  let
• 36:11
  it
• 36:11
  hang
• 36:12
  out,
• 36:12
  you
• 36:12
  know,
• 36:13
  like,
• 36:14
  it
• 36:14
  needs
• 36:14
  to
• 36:14
  be
• 36:14
  addressed
• 36:15
  and
• 36:15
  it
• 36:15
  needs
• 36:15
  to
• 36:15
  be
• 36:15
  given
• 36:16
  words.
• 36:16
  And,
• 36:17
  yeah,
• 36:17
  you
• 36:17
  initiated
• 36:18
  this
• 36:18
  situation,
• 36:20
  but
• 36:21
  you
• 36:21
  need
• 36:21
  to
• 36:21
  grieve
• 36:22
  it
• 36:22
  so
• 36:22
  you
• 36:22
  can
• 36:22
  move
• 36:22
  forward.
• 36:23
  Because
• 36:23
  if
• 36:23
  you
• 36:23
  just,
• 36:23
  like,
• 36:24
  dismiss
• 36:25
  it,
• 36:25
  it's
• 36:25
  going
• 36:25
  to
• 36:26
  keep
• 36:26
  coming
• 36:26
  back.
• 36:27
  So
• 36:27
  take
• 36:27
  care
• 36:28
  of
• 36:28
  it
• 36:28
  so
• 36:28
  you
• 36:28
  can
• 36:28
  get
• 36:28
  rid
• 36:29
  of
• 36:29
  it
• 36:29
  and
• 36:29
  live
• 36:29
  your
• 36:30
  life
• 36:30
  fully.
• 36:31
  But,
• 36:31
  yeah,
• 36:31
  that's.
• 36:32
  Divorce
• 36:32
  is.
• 36:35
  Yeah,
• 36:36
  I
• 36:36
  don't.
• 36:36
  I
• 36:37
  don't
• 36:37
  want
• 36:37
  to
• 36:37
  speak
• 36:37
  for
• 36:37
  you,
• 36:37
  but
• 36:37
  I
• 36:38
  feel
• 36:38
  like
• 36:38
  from
• 36:38
  what
• 36:38
  you're
• 36:39
  saying,
• 36:39
  in
• 36:39
  her
• 36:40
  situation,
• 36:41
  Melissa
• 36:41
  would
• 36:41
  sit
• 36:42
  with
• 36:42
  herself
• 36:42
  and
• 36:42
  be
• 36:42
  like,
• 36:43
  you
• 36:43
  know,
• 36:44
  I'm
• 36:44
  so
• 36:44
  thankful
• 36:44
  for
• 36:45
  this
• 36:45
  and
• 36:45
  this
• 36:45
  and
• 36:45
  this
• 36:45
  and
• 36:46
  our
• 36:46
  time
• 36:46
  together.
• 36:47
  But
• 36:47
  when
• 36:48
  you
• 36:48
  said
• 36:48
  this,
• 36:48
  when
• 36:49
  you
• 36:49
  changed
• 36:49
  in
• 36:49
  this
• 36:50
  way,
• 36:50
  you
• 36:51
  hurt
• 36:51
  me,
• 36:52
  blah,
• 36:52
  blah,
• 36:53
  blah,
• 36:53
  blah.
• 36:55
  And
• 36:55
  that's
• 36:56
  what
• 36:56
  you
• 36:56
  are
• 36:56
  dropping.
• 36:58
  Yeah.
• 36:59
  Speak
• 36:59
  those
• 37:00
  feelings.
• 37:00
  So
• 37:00
  those
• 37:01
  feelings
• 37:01
  are
• 37:01
  really
• 37:01
  important,
• 37:02
  too.
• 37:02
  Like,
• 37:02
  you
• 37:02
  need
• 37:03
  to
• 37:03
  see
• 37:03
  how
• 37:03
  you
• 37:03
  feel
• 37:03
  about,
• 37:04
  do
• 37:04
  I
• 37:04
  feel
• 37:04
  betrayed
• 37:05
  or
• 37:05
  do
• 37:05
  I
• 37:05
  feel
• 37:06
  disrespected?
• 37:07
  Do
• 37:07
  I
• 37:07
  feel
• 37:08
  let
• 37:09
  down?
• 37:09
  Do
• 37:09
  I
• 37:10
  feel.
• 37:12
  Neglected?
• 37:13
  Yeah,
• 37:13
  yeah.
• 37:14
  I
• 37:14
  mean,
• 37:14
  whatever
• 37:14
  the
• 37:14
  word
• 37:15
  is,
• 37:15
  neglected,
• 37:16
  hurt,
• 37:17
  you
• 37:17
  know,
• 37:17
  and
• 37:18
  you
• 37:18
  want
• 37:18
  to
• 37:18
  get
• 37:18
  to
• 37:18
  the.
• 37:18
  The
• 37:18
  core
• 37:19
  of
• 37:19
  those
• 37:19
  feelings.
• 37:19
  Anger
• 37:20
  is
• 37:20
  not
• 37:20
  one.
• 37:21
  You
• 37:21
  need
• 37:21
  to
• 37:21
  get
• 37:21
  deeper
• 37:21
  than
• 37:21
  anger
• 37:22
  because
• 37:22
  you're
• 37:22
  Obviously.
• 37:23
  Probably
• 37:23
  angry.
• 37:24
  Like,
• 37:24
  but
• 37:24
  what's.
• 37:24
  I'm
• 37:25
  glad
• 37:25
  you
• 37:25
  just
• 37:25
  said
• 37:25
  that
• 37:26
  because,
• 37:26
  like,
• 37:26
  I
• 37:26
  want
• 37:27
  to
• 37:27
  say
• 37:27
  I've
• 37:27
  seen
• 37:27
  charts
• 37:28
  before
• 37:28
  from
• 37:28
  past
• 37:29
  therapists
• 37:29
  where,
• 37:29
  like,
• 37:30
  there's
• 37:30
  the
• 37:30
  emotion.
• 37:31
  Feelings,
• 37:31
  yes.
• 37:32
  And
• 37:32
  it
• 37:32
  gets
• 37:32
  deeper
• 37:33
  and
• 37:33
  deeper.
• 37:33
  I
• 37:34
  have
• 37:34
  one,
• 37:34
  but
• 37:34
  I
• 37:35
  can't
• 37:35
  reach
• 37:35
  it,
• 37:35
  honestly.
• 37:36
  Right
• 37:36
  there.
• 37:37
  If
• 37:37
  you
• 37:37
  wanted
• 37:38
  to,
• 37:38
  like,
• 37:38
  share
• 37:38
  it
• 37:39
  with
• 37:39
  us
• 37:39
  later
• 37:39
  or
• 37:40
  something,
• 37:40
  because
• 37:41
  I.
• 37:41
  Have
• 37:41
  one
• 37:41
  in
• 37:42
  my
• 37:42
  binder.
• 37:42
  I
• 37:42
  think
• 37:42
  it's
• 37:43
  so
• 37:43
  helpful
• 37:44
  because
• 37:44
  sometimes
• 37:45
  we're
• 37:45
  not
• 37:45
  100%
• 37:46
  in
• 37:46
  tune
• 37:47
  with
• 37:47
  what
• 37:47
  we're
• 37:47
  feeling,
• 37:48
  or
• 37:48
  we
• 37:48
  just
• 37:48
  think
• 37:49
  we
• 37:49
  just
• 37:50
  slap
• 37:50
  on
• 37:50
  an
• 37:50
  emotion
• 37:51
  even
• 37:51
  though.
• 37:51
  It'S
• 37:52
  a
• 37:52
  little
• 37:52
  deeper.
• 37:53
  Yeah.
• 37:53
  Angry
• 37:53
  or
• 37:53
  sad.
• 37:54
  Those
• 37:54
  are
• 37:54
  easy.
• 37:54
  I'm
• 37:55
  angry
• 37:55
  or
• 37:55
  I'm
• 37:55
  sad.
• 37:55
  Well,
• 37:56
  there's
• 37:56
  more
• 37:56
  to
• 37:56
  it
• 37:56
  than
• 37:57
  that.
• 37:57
  Yeah.
• 37:58
  I
• 37:58
  feel
• 37:59
  like
• 37:59
  I
• 37:59
  took
• 37:59
  us
• 37:59
  kind
• 38:00
  of
• 38:00
  off
• 38:00
  track.
• 38:01
  You
• 38:01
  were
• 38:01
  going
• 38:01
  to
• 38:02
  tell
• 38:02
  us
• 38:02
  the
• 38:02
  blueprints
• 38:03
  before
• 38:03
  I
• 38:03
  kind
• 38:04
  of.
• 38:04
  Oh,
• 38:05
  yeah,
• 38:05
  yeah,
• 38:05
  sorry.
• 38:06
  I
• 38:06
  definitely
• 38:08
  was
• 38:10
  part
• 38:10
  of
• 38:10
  that.
• 38:11
  Going
• 38:11
  off
• 38:11
  the
• 38:11
  track.
• 38:12
  No,
• 38:12
  I'm
• 38:13
  gonna.
• 38:13
  This
• 38:13
  is
• 38:14
  what.
• 38:14
  This
• 38:14
  is
• 38:14
  what
• 38:14
  we
• 38:15
  do.
• 38:15
  Yeah.
• 38:16
  It's
• 38:16
  totally
• 38:17
  normal.
• 38:17
  And
• 38:17
  then
• 38:17
  we
• 38:17
  go,
• 38:18
  wait
• 38:18
  a
• 38:18
  second.
• 38:18
  We
• 38:18
  were
• 38:18
  about
• 38:19
  to
• 38:19
  learn
• 38:19
  something.
• 38:19
  Let's
• 38:20
  go
• 38:20
  back.
• 38:20
  The
• 38:20
  reason
• 38:20
  I
• 38:21
  brought
• 38:21
  up
• 38:21
  the
• 38:21
  stages
• 38:22
  of
• 38:22
  grieving
• 38:22
  was
• 38:23
  because,
• 38:23
  like,
• 38:24
  when
• 38:24
  you
• 38:24
  talk
• 38:24
  about
• 38:25
  a
• 38:25
  blueprint,
• 38:25
  like,
• 38:25
  it
• 38:26
  almost
• 38:26
  seems
• 38:26
  like,
• 38:26
  dit,
• 38:26
  dit,
• 38:27
  dit,
• 38:27
  dit.
• 38:27
  But
• 38:27
  actually,
• 38:28
  like,
• 38:28
  there
• 38:28
  is
• 38:28
  no
• 38:29
  pattern.
• 38:29
  There
• 38:29
  is
• 38:29
  no,
• 38:30
  like,
• 38:30
  oh,
• 38:30
  this
• 38:30
  time's
• 38:31
  gonna
• 38:31
  be
• 38:31
  harder
• 38:31
  now
• 38:32
  than
• 38:32
  it
• 38:32
  is
• 38:33
  next
• 38:33
  year.
• 38:33
  That
• 38:34
  was
• 38:34
  something.
• 38:34
  That's
• 38:34
  a
• 38:34
  myth,
• 38:35
  too.
• 38:35
  Is
• 38:35
  it,
• 38:35
  like,
• 38:36
  time
• 38:36
  is
• 38:36
  going
• 38:36
  to
• 38:37
  make
• 38:37
  a
• 38:37
  difference
• 38:37
  and
• 38:38
  time
• 38:38
  doesn't
• 38:38
  make
• 38:39
  a
• 38:39
  difference?
• 38:40
  The
• 38:40
  only
• 38:40
  time
• 38:40
  time
• 38:40
  makes
• 38:41
  a
• 38:41
  difference
• 38:41
  is
• 38:41
  when
• 38:41
  you're
• 38:41
  actively
• 38:42
  working
• 38:42
  towards
• 38:42
  your
• 38:42
  recovery.
• 38:43
  And
• 38:43
  then
• 38:43
  it.
• 38:44
  It
• 38:44
  does
• 38:44
  because
• 38:44
  you
• 38:45
  have,
• 38:45
  like,
• 38:45
  you've
• 38:45
  got
• 38:46
  some
• 38:46
  traction
• 38:46
  and
• 38:46
  action
• 38:47
  pushing
• 38:47
  you.
• 38:48
  So
• 38:48
  the
• 38:48
  blueprint,
• 38:49
  what
• 38:49
  really
• 38:49
  you
• 38:50
  need
• 38:50
  as
• 38:50
  a
• 38:50
  griever
• 38:51
  is
• 38:52
  education.
• 38:52
  Because
• 38:53
  if
• 38:53
  you
• 38:53
  don't,
• 38:53
  like,
• 38:53
  if,
• 38:54
  like,
• 38:54
  if
• 38:54
  you're
• 38:54
  believing
• 38:54
  in
• 38:55
  these
• 38:55
  steps
• 38:55
  and
• 38:55
  you're
• 38:55
  like,
• 38:55
  oh,
• 38:55
  I'm
• 38:55
  waiting
• 38:56
  for
• 38:56
  the
• 38:56
  ball
• 38:56
  to
• 38:56
  drop.
• 38:56
  Like,
• 38:57
  haven't
• 38:57
  felt
• 38:57
  angry
• 38:57
  yet.
• 38:58
  Like,
• 38:58
  when's
• 38:58
  it
• 38:58
  coming?
• 38:59
  You're.
• 39:00
  You're
• 39:00
  on
• 39:00
  the
• 39:00
  wrong
• 39:00
  path.
• 39:01
  You
• 39:01
  need
• 39:01
  to
• 39:02
  just
• 39:02
  let
• 39:02
  things
• 39:02
  come
• 39:02
  as
• 39:03
  they
• 39:03
  are.
• 39:03
  But
• 39:03
  you
• 39:04
  need
• 39:04
  education.
• 39:05
  You
• 39:05
  need
• 39:05
  to
• 39:06
  know,
• 39:06
  like,
• 39:06
  what
• 39:07
  you're
• 39:07
  dealing
• 39:07
  with.
• 39:08
  So
• 39:08
  understanding
• 39:09
  your
• 39:09
  own
• 39:10
  experience
• 39:10
  with
• 39:10
  grief,
• 39:11
  what
• 39:11
  did
• 39:11
  it
• 39:12
  look
• 39:12
  like
• 39:12
  for
• 39:12
  you
• 39:12
  to
• 39:12
  grieve?
• 39:13
  What
• 39:13
  did
• 39:13
  it
• 39:13
  look
• 39:13
  like
• 39:13
  for
• 39:14
  your
• 39:14
  parents
• 39:14
  to
• 39:14
  grieve?
• 39:15
  Because
• 39:15
  probably
• 39:16
  the
• 39:16
  way
• 39:16
  you're
• 39:16
  grieving
• 39:17
  is
• 39:17
  similar
• 39:17
  to
• 39:17
  the
• 39:17
  way
• 39:18
  they
• 39:18
  grieved,
• 39:19
  very
• 39:19
  possibly
• 39:20
  because
• 39:20
  you
• 39:20
  saw
• 39:21
  that
• 39:21
  model.
• 39:21
  So
• 39:22
  when
• 39:22
  your
• 39:22
  dog
• 39:22
  got
• 39:22
  ran
• 39:23
  over,
• 39:23
  how
• 39:23
  did
• 39:24
  your
• 39:24
  mom
• 39:24
  act
• 39:24
  when
• 39:25
  grandma
• 39:25
  died?
• 39:26
  So
• 39:26
  Like,
• 39:26
  I'm
• 39:27
  gonna
• 39:28
  model
• 39:28
  that
• 39:28
  a
• 39:28
  little
• 39:29
  bit,
• 39:29
  probably
• 39:29
  as
• 39:29
  a
• 39:30
  child.
• 39:30
  And
• 39:30
  then
• 39:30
  you
• 39:30
  just.
• 39:31
  Next
• 39:31
  thing
• 39:31
  you
• 39:31
  know,
• 39:31
  you're
• 39:31
  an
• 39:31
  adult
• 39:32
  and
• 39:32
  you're
• 39:32
  dealing
• 39:32
  with
• 39:32
  some
• 39:32
  big
• 39:33
  stuff,
• 39:33
  and
• 39:33
  you
• 39:33
  mo.
• 39:33
  You're
• 39:34
  doing
• 39:34
  what
• 39:34
  you
• 39:34
  did
• 39:34
  as
• 39:35
  a
• 39:35
  child.
• 39:35
  So,
• 39:35
  like,
• 39:36
  how
• 39:36
  did
• 39:37
  you
• 39:37
  handle
• 39:37
  it
• 39:37
  when
• 39:37
  your
• 39:37
  dog
• 39:38
  died?
• 39:38
  Oh,
• 39:39
  so
• 39:39
  you
• 39:39
  chose
• 39:40
  to
• 39:41
  get
• 39:42
  on
• 39:42
  your.
• 39:43
  Your
• 39:43
  PlayStation
• 39:44
  and
• 39:44
  zone
• 39:45
  out.
• 39:45
  Oh,
• 39:46
  you
• 39:46
  just
• 39:46
  got
• 39:46
  divorced,
• 39:47
  so
• 39:47
  you
• 39:47
  just
• 39:47
  watch
• 39:48
  TV
• 39:48
  all
• 39:48
  the
• 39:48
  time.
• 39:49
  Like,
• 39:50
  you
• 39:50
  know,
• 39:50
  like,
• 39:50
  you're.
• 39:51
  You're
• 39:51
  using
• 39:51
  the
• 39:52
  same
• 39:52
  coping
• 39:52
  mechanism.
• 39:53
  So
• 39:53
  we
• 39:53
  look
• 39:53
  at
• 39:54
  that.
• 39:54
  That's
• 39:54
  part
• 39:54
  of
• 39:54
  education.
• 39:55
  So
• 39:55
  the
• 39:56
  education
• 39:56
  is
• 39:56
  like,
• 39:57
  let's
• 39:57
  look
• 39:58
  at
• 39:59
  the.
• 39:59
  You
• 40:00
  know,
• 40:00
  what
• 40:00
  am
• 40:00
  I
• 40:00
  doing?
• 40:01
  Yourself?
• 40:01
  Like,
• 40:02
  how
• 40:02
  are.
• 40:02
  How
• 40:02
  have.
• 40:02
  What
• 40:03
  we're
• 40:03
  educating
• 40:03
  you
• 40:04
  on
• 40:04
  you.
• 40:04
  Like,
• 40:05
  what
• 40:05
  have
• 40:05
  you
• 40:06
  been
• 40:06
  doing?
• 40:06
  Then
• 40:07
  we
• 40:07
  look
• 40:07
  at,
• 40:07
  like,
• 40:07
  what
• 40:08
  are
• 40:08
  you
• 40:08
  using
• 40:08
  to
• 40:09
  cope?
• 40:10
  Like,
• 40:10
  are
• 40:10
  you
• 40:10
  using.
• 40:11
  Are
• 40:11
  you
• 40:12
  listening
• 40:12
  to
• 40:12
  good
• 40:12
  podcasts?
• 40:13
  Are
• 40:13
  you
• 40:14
  journaling?
• 40:14
  Are
• 40:14
  you
• 40:15
  going
• 40:15
  for
• 40:15
  a
• 40:15
  walk?
• 40:16
  Or
• 40:17
  are
• 40:17
  you
• 40:18
  watching
• 40:18
  TV
• 40:19
  and
• 40:19
  binge
• 40:19
  eating?
• 40:20
  Tearing
• 40:20
  down
• 40:20
  Jo
• 40:20
  Beth
• 40:21
  on
• 40:21
  social
• 40:21
  media?
• 40:21
  Are
• 40:22
  you
• 40:22
  attacking
• 40:22
  me
• 40:22
  on
• 40:23
  social
• 40:23
  media?
• 40:24
  Like,
• 40:24
  what
• 40:25
  are
• 40:25
  you
• 40:25
  doing?
• 40:27
  Okay,
• 40:27
  sorry,
• 40:28
  Low
• 40:28
  blow.
• 40:28
  No,
• 40:29
  that
• 40:29
  was.
• 40:29
  No,
• 40:30
  I
• 40:30
  mean,
• 40:30
  but
• 40:30
  seriously,
• 40:31
  like,
• 40:31
  these
• 40:31
  people
• 40:32
  are.
• 40:32
  You
• 40:33
  know,
• 40:33
  there's.
• 40:33
  There's.
• 40:33
  There's
• 40:34
  something
• 40:34
  happening
• 40:35
  there
• 40:35
  for
• 40:35
  them
• 40:35
  and
• 40:35
  that.
• 40:35
  Like,
• 40:35
  they're
• 40:36
  just
• 40:36
  exploiting
• 40:37
  themselves.
• 40:37
  But
• 40:37
  anyways,
• 40:38
  I'm
• 40:38
  glad
• 40:38
  you
• 40:38
  said
• 40:38
  that.
• 40:39
  Because
• 40:40
  we
• 40:40
  were
• 40:40
  talking
• 40:40
  about
• 40:41
  that
• 40:41
  how
• 40:41
  hurt
• 40:41
  people.
• 40:41
  Hurt
• 40:42
  people.
• 40:43
  Yeah.
• 40:43
  That's
• 40:43
  why
• 40:43
  we
• 40:43
  have
• 40:44
  to
• 40:44
  take
• 40:44
  this
• 40:44
  seriously.
• 40:45
  We
• 40:45
  can't
• 40:45
  just
• 40:45
  be,
• 40:45
  like,
• 40:46
  haphazardly,
• 40:46
  like,
• 40:47
  rolling
• 40:47
  through
• 40:47
  our
• 40:47
  grief.
• 40:48
  And
• 40:49
  that's
• 40:49
  what
• 40:49
  we.
• 40:50
  That's
• 40:50
  what
• 40:50
  we
• 40:50
  look
• 40:50
  at.
• 40:51
  That's
• 40:51
  why
• 40:51
  we're
• 40:51
  looking
• 40:52
  at
• 40:52
  this.
• 40:52
  Like,
• 40:52
  how
• 40:52
  did
• 40:52
  you
• 40:53
  behave?
• 40:53
  Then
• 40:54
  we
• 40:54
  also
• 40:54
  look
• 40:54
  at,
• 40:55
  like,
• 40:55
  all
• 40:56
  the
• 40:56
  losses
• 40:56
  you've
• 40:56
  experienced,
• 40:57
  because
• 40:57
  some
• 40:57
  people
• 40:57
  are
• 40:57
  like,
• 40:58
  yeah,
• 40:58
  like,
• 40:58
  nobody's
• 40:59
  ever
• 40:59
  died
• 40:59
  before,
• 41:00
  so
• 41:00
  I
• 41:00
  haven't
• 41:00
  really
• 41:00
  experienced
• 41:01
  grief.
• 41:01
  It's
• 41:02
  like,
• 41:02
  oh,
• 41:02
  but
• 41:03
  you
• 41:03
  were
• 41:03
  sexually
• 41:04
  abused
• 41:04
  as
• 41:04
  a
• 41:04
  child.
• 41:05
  You've
• 41:06
  experienced
• 41:06
  grief.
• 41:07
  Yeah.
• 41:08
  Or,
• 41:08
  yeah,
• 41:09
  you
• 41:09
  know,
• 41:09
  your
• 41:10
  house
• 41:10
  burned
• 41:10
  down.
• 41:12
  Like,
• 41:12
  somebody
• 41:13
  stole
• 41:13
  something
• 41:13
  that
• 41:14
  was
• 41:14
  really
• 41:14
  important
• 41:14
  to
• 41:14
  you.
• 41:16
  You
• 41:16
  know,
• 41:16
  like,
• 41:16
  there's
• 41:17
  so
• 41:17
  many
• 41:17
  things.
• 41:17
  It'S
• 41:18
  easy
• 41:18
  to
• 41:18
  minimize.
• 41:19
  Oh,
• 41:20
  and
• 41:20
  that's
• 41:20
  a
• 41:20
  thing.
• 41:21
  That's
• 41:21
  definitely
• 41:21
  a
• 41:21
  thing.
• 41:22
  People
• 41:22
  are
• 41:22
  like,
• 41:22
  oh,
• 41:22
  well.
• 41:23
  So
• 41:23
  just
• 41:23
  like,
• 41:24
  the
• 41:24
  lady
• 41:24
  I
• 41:24
  was
• 41:24
  talking
• 41:25
  about
• 41:25
  was
• 41:25
  like,
• 41:25
  you
• 41:26
  don't
• 41:26
  know
• 41:26
  what
• 41:26
  grief
• 41:26
  is
• 41:26
  because
• 41:27
  you
• 41:27
  haven't
• 41:27
  lost
• 41:27
  a
• 41:27
  child.
• 41:28
  We
• 41:28
  do
• 41:28
  that
• 41:28
  in
• 41:28
  the
• 41:28
  reverse.
• 41:29
  I
• 41:29
  have
• 41:29
  people
• 41:29
  come
• 41:30
  to
• 41:30
  me
• 41:30
  and
• 41:30
  be
• 41:30
  like,
• 41:31
  my
• 41:31
  mom
• 41:31
  died,
• 41:32
  but
• 41:32
  I
• 41:32
  can't
• 41:32
  talk
• 41:32
  to
• 41:32
  you
• 41:32
  about
• 41:33
  it
• 41:33
  because,
• 41:33
  like,
• 41:33
  your
• 41:33
  husband
• 41:34
  died.
• 41:34
  And
• 41:34
  that's
• 41:34
  so
• 41:34
  much
• 41:34
  worse
• 41:35
  than
• 41:35
  my
• 41:35
  mom
• 41:35
  dying.
• 41:36
  And
• 41:36
  I'm
• 41:36
  like,
• 41:37
  stop.
• 41:38
  Like,
• 41:39
  we're
• 41:39
  comparing
• 41:40
  grief
• 41:40
  and
• 41:40
  what
• 41:40
  other
• 41:40
  people.
• 41:40
  I
• 41:40
  did
• 41:41
  that
• 41:41
  to
• 41:41
  you.
• 41:41
  You
• 41:41
  did.
• 41:42
  And
• 41:42
  I
• 41:42
  told
• 41:42
  you
• 41:42
  to
• 41:42
  stop.
• 41:43
  I
• 41:43
  said,
• 41:43
  oh,
• 41:44
  shit.
• 41:44
  Your
• 41:44
  husband
• 41:45
  died,
• 41:45
  My
• 41:45
  dog
• 41:46
  died.
• 41:47
  Right.
• 41:48
  And
• 41:49
  like.
• 41:49
  Like,
• 41:50
  it
• 41:50
  feels
• 41:50
  differently,
• 41:51
  right?
• 41:51
  Like,
• 41:51
  if
• 41:51
  you're.
• 41:52
  If
• 41:52
  your
• 41:52
  partner
• 41:52
  or
• 41:53
  best
• 41:53
  friend
• 41:53
  died,
• 41:53
  it
• 41:53
  would
• 41:53
  feel
• 41:53
  very
• 41:54
  different
• 41:54
  than
• 41:54
  your
• 41:54
  dog
• 41:54
  dying.
• 41:55
  But
• 41:55
  grief
• 41:55
  has
• 41:55
  always
• 41:56
  experienced
• 41:56
  it
• 41:56
  100%.
• 41:57
  It
• 41:57
  doesn't
• 41:57
  matter
• 41:58
  who
• 41:58
  or
• 41:58
  what
• 41:58
  it
• 41:58
  is.
• 41:58
  Like,
• 41:59
  you're
• 41:59
  experiencing
• 41:59
  it
• 42:00
  fully.
• 42:01
  So
• 42:01
  it.
• 42:01
  To
• 42:01
  compare.
• 42:02
  That's
• 42:02
  a
• 42:02
  good
• 42:03
  thing
• 42:03
  to
• 42:03
  remember.
• 42:04
  Yeah.
• 42:04
  So
• 42:05
  don't.
• 42:05
  Don't
• 42:05
  compare.
• 42:06
  But
• 42:06
  the.
• 42:06
  We
• 42:07
  have
• 42:07
  this
• 42:07
  huge
• 42:08
  education
• 42:09
  component
• 42:10
  that
• 42:10
  I
• 42:10
  walk
• 42:10
  people
• 42:10
  through,
• 42:11
  but
• 42:11
  also,
• 42:12
  like,
• 42:12
  I
• 42:13
  am
• 42:13
  that
• 42:13
  person
• 42:13
  that's
• 42:14
  pulling
• 42:14
  you
• 42:14
  up
• 42:14
  out
• 42:14
  of
• 42:14
  the
• 42:14
  dark.
• 42:14
  So
• 42:15
  I
• 42:15
  do
• 42:15
  something
• 42:15
  called
• 42:15
  Marco
• 42:16
  Polo
• 42:16
  with.
• 42:17
  It's
• 42:17
  an
• 42:17
  app,
• 42:17
  a
• 42:18
  video
• 42:18
  app
• 42:18
  where
• 42:19
  it's
• 42:19
  like,
• 42:19
  we
• 42:19
  just
• 42:19
  video
• 42:20
  send
• 42:20
  it
• 42:20
  video
• 42:21
  send
• 42:21
  it
• 42:21
  back,
• 42:21
  like,
• 42:21
  as.
• 42:22
  As
• 42:22
  we
• 42:22
  can.
• 42:22
  It's
• 42:23
  not
• 42:23
  immediate,
• 42:23
  but,
• 42:23
  you
• 42:23
  know,
• 42:24
  as
• 42:24
  soon
• 42:24
  as
• 42:24
  we
• 42:24
  can,
• 42:24
  we
• 42:25
  get
• 42:25
  back
• 42:25
  to
• 42:25
  each
• 42:25
  other.
• 42:26
  But
• 42:26
  you
• 42:26
  need
• 42:26
  that
• 42:26
  because
• 42:27
  it's
• 42:27
  like,
• 42:27
  hey,
• 42:28
  I'm
• 42:28
  feeling
• 42:28
  like
• 42:29
  I
• 42:29
  want
• 42:29
  to
• 42:29
  give
• 42:29
  up
• 42:30
  today.
• 42:30
  And
• 42:30
  I'm
• 42:31
  like,
• 42:31
  you're
• 42:31
  not
• 42:31
  giving
• 42:32
  up
• 42:32
  today.
• 42:32
  In
• 42:33
  fact,
• 42:33
  you're
• 42:33
  getting
• 42:33
  up
• 42:34
  right
• 42:34
  now,
• 42:34
  and
• 42:35
  you're
• 42:35
  gonna
• 42:35
  take
• 42:36
  action.
• 42:36
  You're
• 42:36
  gonna
• 42:36
  go
• 42:36
  do
• 42:37
  something.
• 42:37
  You're
• 42:37
  gonna
• 42:37
  go
• 42:37
  for
• 42:37
  a
• 42:37
  walk,
• 42:37
  you're
• 42:38
  gonna
• 42:38
  call
• 42:38
  a
• 42:38
  friend,
• 42:38
  you're
• 42:38
  gonna
• 42:39
  go
• 42:39
  out
• 42:39
  and
• 42:39
  eat
• 42:39
  something.
• 42:39
  Like,
• 42:40
  you
• 42:41
  know,
• 42:41
  encouraging
• 42:42
  that
• 42:42
  action
• 42:42
  and
• 42:43
  just
• 42:43
  repetitively
• 42:44
  pulling
• 42:44
  them
• 42:44
  up.
• 42:44
  But.
• 42:45
  But
• 42:45
  grievers
• 42:45
  need
• 42:46
  that.
• 42:47
  They
• 42:47
  have
• 42:47
  people
• 42:47
  in
• 42:47
  their
• 42:47
  life
• 42:48
  that
• 42:48
  know
• 42:48
  how
• 42:48
  to
• 42:48
  do
• 42:48
  sad.
• 42:49
  They
• 42:49
  don't
• 42:49
  have
• 42:49
  people
• 42:49
  in
• 42:50
  their
• 42:50
  life
• 42:50
  that's
• 42:50
  like,
• 42:50
  I
• 42:51
  don't
• 42:51
  care
• 42:51
  if
• 42:51
  you're
• 42:51
  mad
• 42:51
  at
• 42:51
  me.
• 42:52
  Like,
• 42:52
  I
• 42:53
  don't
• 42:53
  care
• 42:53
  if
• 42:53
  this
• 42:53
  hurts
• 42:53
  your
• 42:54
  feelings.
• 42:55
  Like,
• 42:55
  I'm
• 42:56
  here
• 42:56
  to
• 42:56
  tell
• 42:56
  you
• 42:56
  that
• 42:56
  you
• 42:56
  are
• 42:57
  going
• 42:57
  to
• 42:57
  get
• 42:57
  up
• 42:57
  and
• 42:57
  shower
• 42:57
  today
• 42:58
  because
• 42:58
  you're
• 42:59
  a
• 42:59
  warrior
• 42:59
  now.
• 42:59
  Like,
• 43:00
  you've
• 43:00
  made
• 43:00
  a
• 43:00
  decision
• 43:01
  to
• 43:01
  not
• 43:01
  be
• 43:01
  a
• 43:01
  victim
• 43:02
  anymore.
• 43:02
  And
• 43:02
  that's
• 43:03
  what
• 43:03
  I'm
• 43:03
  helping
• 43:03
  you
• 43:03
  do.
• 43:04
  Also.
• 43:04
  I
• 43:05
  do
• 43:05
  first
• 43:05
  three
• 43:05
  steps.
• 43:06
  Like
• 43:07
  the
• 43:07
  days
• 43:07
  that
• 43:07
  I
• 43:07
  can't
• 43:08
  get
• 43:08
  out
• 43:08
  of
• 43:08
  bed.
• 43:08
  Simon.
• 43:09
  And
• 43:09
  we've
• 43:10
  reversed
• 43:11
  it
• 43:11
  sometimes.
• 43:11
  Sometimes
• 43:12
  he
• 43:12
  can't
• 43:12
  get
• 43:12
  out
• 43:12
  of
• 43:12
  bed,
• 43:12
  and
• 43:13
  we
• 43:13
  just
• 43:13
  ask
• 43:13
  each
• 43:13
  other.
• 43:13
  You
• 43:14
  do
• 43:14
  three
• 43:14
  steps.
• 43:14
  I
• 43:15
  did
• 43:15
  do
• 43:15
  it
• 43:15
  to
• 43:15
  you.
• 43:16
  So
• 43:16
  good
• 43:16
  friends,
• 43:17
  you
• 43:17
  don't
• 43:17
  want
• 43:17
  to
• 43:17
  get
• 43:18
  out
• 43:18
  of
• 43:18
  bed.
• 43:18
  Okay,
• 43:19
  well,
• 43:20
  first
• 43:20
  step
• 43:20
  is
• 43:21
  getting
• 43:21
  out
• 43:21
  of
• 43:21
  bed.
• 43:22
  Then
• 43:23
  put
• 43:23
  on
• 43:23
  clothes,
• 43:25
  then
• 43:25
  brush
• 43:25
  your
• 43:25
  teeth.
• 43:26
  And
• 43:26
  they
• 43:26
  don't
• 43:26
  have
• 43:26
  to
• 43:26
  be
• 43:27
  big
• 43:27
  steps.
• 43:27
  No,
• 43:27
  it
• 43:28
  doesn't.
• 43:28
  It
• 43:28
  doesn't
• 43:28
  have
• 43:28
  to
• 43:28
  be
• 43:28
  big
• 43:29
  steps.
• 43:29
  It
• 43:29
  just
• 43:29
  has
• 43:29
  to
• 43:29
  be
• 43:29
  the
• 43:30
  steps
• 43:30
  that
• 43:30
  get
• 43:30
  you
• 43:30
  out.
• 43:31
  Right.
• 43:32
  Like,
• 43:32
  I'm
• 43:32
  not
• 43:32
  Asking
• 43:32
  you
• 43:32
  to
• 43:33
  get
• 43:33
  up
• 43:33
  and
• 43:33
  start
• 43:33
  a
• 43:33
  non
• 43:34
  profit
• 43:34
  in
• 43:34
  memory.
• 43:34
  If
• 43:35
  you're
• 43:35
  a
• 43:35
  partner,
• 43:36
  I'm
• 43:36
  just
• 43:36
  saying
• 43:37
  you
• 43:37
  got
• 43:37
  to
• 43:37
  get
• 43:38
  up,
• 43:38
  right?
• 43:38
  And
• 43:39
  being
• 43:39
  that
• 43:39
  person.
• 43:40
  But
• 43:41
  you
• 43:41
  need
• 43:41
  that.
• 43:42
  But
• 43:42
  what
• 43:42
  you
• 43:42
  also
• 43:42
  need
• 43:43
  and
• 43:43
  what
• 43:43
  you
• 43:43
  guys
• 43:43
  have
• 43:43
  with
• 43:44
  each
• 43:44
  other
• 43:44
  and
• 43:44
  your
• 43:44
  partner
• 43:45
  is
• 43:45
  that
• 43:46
  like
• 43:47
  somebody
• 43:48
  that's
• 43:48
  there
• 43:48
  to
• 43:49
  like,
• 43:49
  love
• 43:49
  you
• 43:50
  and
• 43:50
  listen
• 43:50
  to
• 43:50
  you
• 43:50
  through
• 43:51
  that.
• 43:51
  And
• 43:52
  I
• 43:52
  found
• 43:52
  that
• 43:52
  organically.
• 43:54
  It
• 43:54
  just
• 43:54
  so
• 43:54
  happened
• 43:54
  that
• 43:54
  a
• 43:55
  friend
• 43:55
  of
• 43:55
  mine's
• 43:56
  sister's
• 43:56
  husband
• 43:57
  died
• 43:57
  of
• 43:57
  glioblastoma
• 43:58
  too.
• 43:58
  And
• 43:59
  she
• 43:59
  was
• 43:59
  like,
• 43:59
  can
• 44:00
  you
• 44:00
  talk?
• 44:00
  Like,
• 44:00
  I
• 44:01
  think
• 44:01
  you
• 44:01
  guys
• 44:01
  should
• 44:01
  connect
• 44:02
  or
• 44:02
  whatever.
• 44:02
  And
• 44:02
  she's
• 44:03
  like
• 44:03
  one
• 44:03
  of
• 44:03
  my
• 44:03
  best
• 44:04
  friends.
• 44:04
  Like,
• 44:04
  I
• 44:04
  talk
• 44:04
  to
• 44:04
  her
• 44:05
  all
• 44:05
  the
• 44:05
  time
• 44:05
  and
• 44:05
  we
• 44:06
  say
• 44:06
  things
• 44:06
  to
• 44:07
  each
• 44:07
  other
• 44:07
  that
• 44:08
  we
• 44:08
  can't
• 44:08
  say
• 44:09
  to
• 44:09
  anybody
• 44:09
  else.
• 44:09
  And
• 44:09
  this
• 44:10
  would
• 44:10
  be
• 44:10
  the
• 44:10
  same
• 44:10
  for
• 44:10
  a
• 44:11
  parent
• 44:11
  who's
• 44:11
  lost
• 44:11
  a
• 44:11
  child.
• 44:12
  Like,
• 44:13
  there's
• 44:13
  hurts
• 44:13
  and
• 44:13
  pains
• 44:14
  that
• 44:14
  you
• 44:14
  say
• 44:14
  to
• 44:14
  somebody
• 44:14
  else
• 44:15
  and
• 44:15
  they're
• 44:15
  gonna
• 44:15
  be
• 44:15
  like,
• 44:15
  oh,
• 44:16
  my
• 44:16
  gosh,
• 44:16
  I
• 44:16
  have
• 44:16
  no
• 44:16
  idea
• 44:17
  what
• 44:17
  to
• 44:17
  do
• 44:17
  with
• 44:17
  that
• 44:17
  information.
• 44:18
  Like,
• 44:18
  you
• 44:18
  will
• 44:19
  scare
• 44:19
  them
• 44:19
  to
• 44:19
  death.
• 44:20
  And
• 44:20
  I
• 44:21
  guess
• 44:21
  that's
• 44:21
  why
• 44:21
  group
• 44:22
  therapy.
• 44:22
  Is
• 44:22
  sometimes
• 44:23
  a
• 44:23
  thing.
• 44:23
  Like
• 44:25
  for
• 44:25
  a
• 44:25
  lost
• 44:25
  child,
• 44:26
  for
• 44:26
  just.
• 44:27
  Yeah,
• 44:27
  all
• 44:27
  those
• 44:27
  different
• 44:27
  types
• 44:28
  of.
• 44:28
  That
• 44:28
  makes
• 44:28
  sense,
• 44:29
  actually.
• 44:29
  Yeah.
• 44:29
  Because
• 44:29
  you
• 44:30
  want.
• 44:30
  You
• 44:30
  want
• 44:30
  that
• 44:31
  connection
• 44:31
  with
• 44:32
  somebody.
• 44:32
  And
• 44:32
  so
• 44:33
  that's
• 44:33
  something
• 44:33
  else
• 44:33
  that
• 44:34
  as
• 44:34
  my
• 44:34
  programs
• 44:35
  grow
• 44:35
  and
• 44:35
  that
• 44:35
  we
• 44:36
  find
• 44:36
  new
• 44:37
  people
• 44:37
  is
• 44:37
  to
• 44:38
  be
• 44:38
  like,
• 44:38
  hey,
• 44:38
  you
• 44:38
  know,
• 44:38
  like,
• 44:39
  this
• 44:39
  person
• 44:39
  also
• 44:40
  lost
• 44:40
  their
• 44:40
  husband
• 44:40
  to
• 44:41
  suicide.
• 44:41
  I
• 44:41
  think
• 44:41
  you
• 44:42
  guys
• 44:42
  should
• 44:42
  talk
• 44:42
  because
• 44:43
  then
• 44:43
  they
• 44:43
  can
• 44:43
  be
• 44:43
  like,
• 44:43
  oh
• 44:44
  my
• 44:44
  gosh,
• 44:44
  when
• 44:44
  I
• 44:44
  found
• 44:45
  him,
• 44:45
  X,
• 44:46
  Y
• 44:46
  and
• 44:46
  Z.
• 44:46
  And
• 44:47
  that
• 44:47
  person's
• 44:47
  been
• 44:47
  through
• 44:47
  it.
• 44:48
  So
• 44:48
  they're
• 44:48
  like,
• 44:48
  girl,
• 44:48
  I
• 44:48
  know.
• 44:49
  Like,
• 44:50
  I
• 44:50
  understand.
• 44:51
  Like,
• 44:51
  you're
• 44:51
  not
• 44:52
  going
• 44:52
  to
• 44:52
  drop
• 44:52
  that
• 44:52
  huge,
• 44:53
  like,
• 44:54
  bomb
• 44:54
  on
• 44:54
  just
• 44:54
  somebody.
• 44:56
  Oh,
• 44:56
  interesting,
• 44:56
  right?
• 44:56
  Like,
• 44:57
  they
• 44:57
  can
• 44:57
  say
• 44:57
  it's
• 44:57
  me,
• 44:58
  but
• 44:58
  they
• 44:58
  need
• 44:58
  a
• 44:58
  friend.
• 44:59
  Yeah.
• 44:59
  It's
• 44:59
  like
• 44:59
  a
• 45:00
  almost
• 45:00
  like
• 45:01
  dating
• 45:01
  app
• 45:02
  for
• 45:02
  grievers.
• 45:03
  That's
• 45:03
  really
• 45:04
  cool.
• 45:04
  It
• 45:04
  is.
• 45:04
  Because
• 45:05
  you
• 45:05
  need
• 45:05
  that.
• 45:05
  Like,
• 45:06
  there
• 45:06
  was
• 45:06
  a
• 45:06
  moment.
• 45:06
  It's
• 45:07
  like
• 45:07
  a
• 45:07
  mentor.
• 45:08
  Yeah.
• 45:08
  Just
• 45:08
  somebody
• 45:09
  to
• 45:09
  walk.
• 45:10
  Walk
• 45:10
  with
• 45:10
  you
• 45:10
  through
• 45:10
  it.
• 45:10
  Because
• 45:11
  there
• 45:11
  was
• 45:11
  a
• 45:11
  time
• 45:11
  when
• 45:11
  I
• 45:12
  was
• 45:12
  like,
• 45:12
  I
• 45:12
  had
• 45:12
  this
• 45:12
  really
• 45:13
  weird
• 45:13
  memory
• 45:13
  that
• 45:14
  was
• 45:14
  not
• 45:14
  weird.
• 45:14
  It
• 45:14
  was
• 45:14
  just
• 45:15
  really
• 45:15
  dark
• 45:15
  coming
• 45:16
  up.
• 45:16
  And
• 45:17
  I'll
• 45:17
  share
• 45:17
  it
• 45:17
  with
• 45:17
  you
• 45:17
  guys
• 45:18
  because
• 45:18
  that's
• 45:18
  what
• 45:18
  we're
• 45:18
  doing.
• 45:19
  But
• 45:19
  I
• 45:20
  called
• 45:20
  my
• 45:20
  friend
• 45:21
  and
• 45:21
  I
• 45:21
  was
• 45:21
  like,
• 45:21
  man,
• 45:21
  I
• 45:22
  was
• 45:22
  like,
• 45:22
  I
• 45:22
  can't
• 45:22
  stop
• 45:22
  thinking
• 45:23
  about
• 45:23
  how
• 45:24
  hard
• 45:24
  it
• 45:24
  was
• 45:25
  to
• 45:25
  decide
• 45:26
  that
• 45:26
  that
• 45:26
  was
• 45:26
  the
• 45:26
  last
• 45:26
  time
• 45:27
  to
• 45:27
  see
• 45:27
  my
• 45:27
  husband,
• 45:28
  like,
• 45:28
  after
• 45:28
  he
• 45:29
  had
• 45:29
  passed.
• 45:29
  Like,
• 45:30
  I
• 45:30
  knew
• 45:31
  as
• 45:31
  soon
• 45:31
  as
• 45:31
  I
• 45:31
  said,
• 45:32
  like,
• 45:33
  I'm
• 45:34
  like,
• 45:34
  okay,
• 45:34
  I'm
• 45:35
  ready
• 45:35
  to
• 45:35
  go
• 45:35
  home,
• 45:36
  that
• 45:37
  that
• 45:37
  was
• 45:37
  gonna
• 45:37
  Be
• 45:38
  it
• 45:38
  like,
• 45:38
  there
• 45:38
  would
• 45:39
  be
• 45:39
  no
• 45:39
  more
• 45:39
  seeing.
• 45:39
  I
• 45:40
  would
• 45:40
  never
• 45:40
  see
• 45:40
  him
• 45:41
  again.
• 45:41
  And
• 45:42
  so,
• 45:42
  like,
• 45:42
  I
• 45:43
  kept
• 45:43
  touching
• 45:43
  him
• 45:44
  and
• 45:44
  his
• 45:44
  body
• 45:45
  as
• 45:45
  his
• 45:45
  body
• 45:45
  got
• 45:46
  cold
• 45:46
  and
• 45:46
  like,
• 45:47
  just
• 45:47
  like,
• 45:47
  I
• 45:47
  didn't
• 45:48
  want
• 45:48
  to
• 45:48
  let
• 45:48
  him
• 45:48
  go.
• 45:49
  And
• 45:50
  like,
• 45:51
  I
• 45:51
  had
• 45:51
  to.
• 45:52
  I
• 45:52
  could
• 45:52
  talk
• 45:52
  to
• 45:52
  her
• 45:53
  about
• 45:53
  that
• 45:53
  because
• 45:53
  she
• 45:53
  was
• 45:53
  like,
• 45:54
  yeah,
• 45:54
  I
• 45:54
  know.
• 45:55
  Like,
• 45:55
  I
• 45:55
  know
• 45:56
  what
• 45:56
  that
• 45:56
  felt
• 45:56
  like.
• 45:57
  Like
• 45:57
  you
• 45:57
  being
• 45:57
  the
• 45:58
  one
• 45:58
  that's
• 45:58
  making
• 45:58
  the
• 45:58
  decision
• 45:59
  to
• 45:59
  walk
• 45:59
  away
• 45:59
  knowing
• 46:00
  it's
• 46:00
  the
• 46:00
  last
• 46:00
  time.
• 46:01
  And
• 46:01
  so
• 46:02
  we
• 46:02
  need
• 46:03
  people
• 46:03
  like
• 46:03
  that.
• 46:04
  And
• 46:04
  they're
• 46:04
  not
• 46:04
  always
• 46:04
  our
• 46:04
  friends.
• 46:05
  In
• 46:05
  fact,
• 46:05
  they're
• 46:05
  probably
• 46:06
  very
• 46:06
  seldom
• 46:07
  our
• 46:07
  friends
• 46:07
  because
• 46:08
  how
• 46:09
  common
• 46:09
  is
• 46:09
  it
• 46:09
  that
• 46:09
  you
• 46:10
  have
• 46:10
  a
• 46:10
  friend
• 46:10
  that's
• 46:10
  experienced
• 46:11
  the
• 46:11
  same
• 46:11
  thing
• 46:11
  as
• 46:11
  you?
• 46:12
  Not
• 46:12
  very
• 46:12
  common.
• 46:13
  So,
• 46:13
  yeah,
• 46:14
  I
• 46:14
  like
• 46:14
  to
• 46:15
  connect
• 46:15
  people
• 46:15
  so
• 46:16
  that
• 46:16
  they
• 46:16
  can
• 46:16
  have
• 46:16
  a
• 46:16
  friend
• 46:16
  and
• 46:17
  be
• 46:17
  like,
• 46:17
  hey,
• 46:17
  like,
• 46:17
  today's
• 46:18
  hard.
• 46:18
  Remember
• 46:19
  anniversaries
• 46:19
  and
• 46:20
  birthdays
• 46:20
  with,
• 46:20
  you
• 46:21
  know,
• 46:21
  and
• 46:21
  reach
• 46:21
  out.
• 46:22
  But
• 46:23
  that's
• 46:23
  an
• 46:23
  important
• 46:23
  component
• 46:24
  too,
• 46:24
  is
• 46:24
  having
• 46:25
  that
• 46:25
  community.
• 46:25
  And
• 46:26
  I
• 46:26
  love
• 46:26
  that
• 46:27
  in
• 46:28
  my
• 46:28
  group,
• 46:28
  I
• 46:28
  get
• 46:29
  to
• 46:29
  do
• 46:30
  whatever
• 46:30
  I
• 46:30
  want
• 46:30
  because
• 46:31
  it's
• 46:31
  my
• 46:31
  group.
• 46:32
  And
• 46:32
  like,
• 46:33
  so
• 46:33
  if
• 46:33
  I
• 46:33
  want
• 46:33
  to,
• 46:34
  like,
• 46:34
  you
• 46:34
  know,
• 46:35
  like,
• 46:35
  over
• 46:35
  provide
• 46:36
  and
• 46:36
  over
• 46:36
  serve
• 46:37
  and
• 46:37
  over
• 46:37
  love,
• 46:37
  like,
• 46:38
  I
• 46:38
  can
• 46:38
  do
• 46:39
  that
• 46:39
  because
• 46:39
  I'm
• 46:39
  calling
• 46:40
  the
• 46:40
  shots
• 46:40
  and
• 46:40
  I'm
• 46:40
  gonna.
• 46:41
  I
• 46:41
  give
• 46:41
  them
• 46:41
  whatever
• 46:42
  they
• 46:42
  need
• 46:43
  to
• 46:43
  be
• 46:43
  able
• 46:44
  to
• 46:44
  be
• 46:44
  like,
• 46:44
  I.
• 46:45
  I
• 46:45
  have
• 46:45
  everything
• 46:45
  I
• 46:46
  need
• 46:46
  to
• 46:46
  be
• 46:46
  successful,
• 46:47
  you
• 46:47
  know,
• 46:47
  and
• 46:48
  I
• 46:48
  get
• 46:48
  to
• 46:48
  provide
• 46:48
  that.
• 46:49
  So
• 46:50
  that
• 46:50
  kind
• 46:50
  of
• 46:50
  being
• 46:51
  said,
• 46:51
  do
• 46:51
  you
• 46:52
  tend
• 46:52
  to
• 46:53
  keep.
• 46:55
  Okay,
• 46:55
  so
• 46:55
  like
• 46:55
  in
• 46:56
  therapy,
• 46:56
  they,
• 46:57
  you
• 46:57
  know,
• 46:57
  you
• 46:57
  kind
• 46:57
  of
• 46:57
  hear
• 46:58
  the
• 46:58
  joke
• 46:58
  that,
• 46:58
  like,
• 46:58
  oh,
• 46:59
  I
• 46:59
  want
• 46:59
  my
• 46:59
  clients
• 47:00
  to
• 47:00
  graduate
• 47:01
  from
• 47:01
  thera.
• 47:01
  I
• 47:01
  don't
• 47:01
  want
• 47:02
  to
• 47:02
  see
• 47:02
  them
• 47:02
  again.
• 47:02
  It
• 47:02
  means
• 47:02
  they're
• 47:02
  doing
• 47:03
  better.
• 47:03
  But
• 47:04
  I
• 47:04
  almost
• 47:04
  wonder
• 47:04
  if,
• 47:04
  like,
• 47:05
  in
• 47:05
  your
• 47:06
  field,
• 47:06
  maybe
• 47:07
  you
• 47:07
  want
• 47:07
  them
• 47:07
  to
• 47:08
  stick
• 47:08
  around
• 47:08
  because
• 47:08
  they
• 47:08
  are
• 47:09
  going
• 47:09
  to
• 47:09
  be
• 47:09
  able
• 47:09
  to
• 47:09
  be
• 47:10
  that
• 47:10
  guiding
• 47:10
  hand
• 47:12
  to
• 47:12
  help
• 47:12
  the
• 47:12
  next
• 47:13
  person.
• 47:13
  Yeah.
• 47:13
  So
• 47:14
  I
• 47:14
  feel
• 47:14
  like.
• 47:14
  So
• 47:14
  my
• 47:15
  group
• 47:15
  is
• 47:15
  six
• 47:15
  months
• 47:16
  and
• 47:16
  so
• 47:16
  there's
• 47:16
  like
• 47:17
  eight.
• 47:17
  The
• 47:17
  first
• 47:18
  two
• 47:18
  months
• 47:18
  is
• 47:18
  like
• 47:19
  major
• 47:19
  hand
• 47:19
  holding.
• 47:20
  Major.
• 47:20
  Because
• 47:21
  we
• 47:21
  want
• 47:21
  to.
• 47:21
  Wow.
• 47:21
  So
• 47:21
  it's
• 47:22
  an
• 47:22
  actual,
• 47:22
  like,
• 47:23
  it's
• 47:24
  like
• 47:24
  a.
• 47:25
  Almost
• 47:25
  like
• 47:25
  a
• 47:25
  course
• 47:26
  in
• 47:26
  a
• 47:26
  way.
• 47:26
  Yeah,
• 47:26
  it's
• 47:27
  like
• 47:27
  a
• 47:27
  course.
• 47:27
  So
• 47:27
  the
• 47:27
  grief
• 47:28
  group
• 47:28
  is
• 47:28
  kind
• 47:28
  of
• 47:28
  like
• 47:29
  a
• 47:29
  course.
• 47:29
  It's
• 47:30
  so
• 47:30
  it's
• 47:30
  very
• 47:31
  structured.
• 47:31
  Very.
• 47:32
  And
• 47:32
  are
• 47:32
  these
• 47:32
  the
• 47:32
  blueprints
• 47:33
  that
• 47:33
  we're
• 47:33
  trying
• 47:33
  to
• 47:33
  get
• 47:34
  through?
• 47:34
  Yeah.
• 47:35
  So
• 47:35
  yeah.
• 47:36
  So
• 47:36
  the
• 47:37
  blueprint
• 47:37
  is
• 47:37
  like.
• 47:39
  You
• 47:39
  are
• 47:39
  so
• 47:40
  cute.
• 47:41
  Just
• 47:41
  curious,
• 47:41
  is
• 47:42
  this
• 47:42
  course
• 47:42
  like
• 47:42
  the
• 47:42
  blueprint?
• 47:43
  This
• 47:43
  is
• 47:43
  the
• 47:43
  happiest
• 47:44
  podcast
• 47:44
  I've
• 47:45
  ever
• 47:45
  been
• 47:45
  on.
• 47:46
  So
• 47:46
  yeah.
• 47:46
  So
• 47:47
  the
• 47:47
  blueprint
• 47:47
  consists
• 47:48
  of
• 47:48
  the
• 47:48
  grief
• 47:49
  recovery
• 47:49
  method
• 47:50
  that
• 47:50
  I
• 47:50
  walk
• 47:50
  them
• 47:50
  through,
• 47:51
  the
• 47:51
  one
• 47:51
  on
• 47:51
  one
• 47:52
  support,
• 47:52
  the
• 47:52
  big
• 47:53
  Group
• 47:53
  support
• 47:53
  and
• 47:54
  then
• 47:54
  the
• 47:54
  one
• 47:54
  on
• 47:54
  one
• 47:55
  friendship
• 47:55
  that
• 47:55
  I
• 47:56
  fine
• 47:56
  for
• 47:56
  them.
• 47:56
  And
• 47:56
  even
• 47:57
  if
• 47:57
  like
• 47:57
  there's
• 47:58
  not
• 47:58
  like
• 47:58
  somebody
• 47:59
  in
• 47:59
  that
• 47:59
  group
• 47:59
  that
• 48:00
  connects
• 48:00
  because
• 48:00
  there
• 48:01
  probably
• 48:01
  won't
• 48:01
  be.
• 48:02
  I
• 48:02
  know
• 48:02
  lots
• 48:03
  of
• 48:03
  people.
• 48:03
  So
• 48:03
  it's
• 48:04
  like
• 48:04
  if
• 48:04
  you
• 48:04
  lost
• 48:04
  a
• 48:04
  child
• 48:04
  to
• 48:05
  suicide,
• 48:05
  like
• 48:05
  I
• 48:05
  know
• 48:06
  three
• 48:06
  people.
• 48:06
  If
• 48:06
  you
• 48:06
  lost
• 48:06
  husband
• 48:07
  suicide,
• 48:07
  I
• 48:07
  got
• 48:07
  three
• 48:08
  people.
• 48:08
  Like
• 48:08
  if
• 48:08
  you,
• 48:08
  you
• 48:09
  know,
• 48:09
  I
• 48:09
  can
• 48:09
  connect.
• 48:10
  You
• 48:10
  lost
• 48:10
  a
• 48:10
  spouse.
• 48:11
  I
• 48:11
  got
• 48:11
  lots
• 48:11
  of
• 48:11
  those
• 48:12
  people
• 48:12
  because
• 48:12
  that's
• 48:12
  a
• 48:13
  lot
• 48:13
  of
• 48:13
  what
• 48:13
  I
• 48:13
  attract.
• 48:14
  But
• 48:14
  yeah,
• 48:14
  so
• 48:14
  those
• 48:14
  are
• 48:15
  like
• 48:15
  the
• 48:15
  four
• 48:15
  different
• 48:16
  parts.
• 48:16
  But
• 48:17
  yeah.
• 48:17
  So
• 48:17
  to,
• 48:17
  to
• 48:18
  answer
• 48:18
  your
• 48:18
  question,
• 48:19
  the
• 48:20
  goal
• 48:20
  is,
• 48:20
  is
• 48:21
  that
• 48:21
  they're.
• 48:21
  They
• 48:22
  feel
• 48:22
  good
• 48:22
  enough
• 48:22
  to
• 48:22
  leave
• 48:23
  in
• 48:23
  six
• 48:23
  months.
• 48:23
  If
• 48:23
  they
• 48:23
  want
• 48:24
  to
• 48:24
  stay,
• 48:24
  that's
• 48:24
  great.
• 48:24
  Like
• 48:25
  if
• 48:25
  they
• 48:25
  feel
• 48:25
  like
• 48:25
  they
• 48:26
  want
• 48:26
  that.
• 48:26
  Cuz
• 48:26
  the
• 48:26
  grief
• 48:27
  doesn't
• 48:27
  have
• 48:27
  a
• 48:27
  timeline.
• 48:28
  But
• 48:28
  the,
• 48:29
  if
• 48:29
  I
• 48:29
  have
• 48:30
  two
• 48:30
  people
• 48:30
  who
• 48:31
  have
• 48:31
  gone
• 48:31
  through
• 48:31
  the
• 48:32
  program,
• 48:33
  they
• 48:33
  should
• 48:33
  be
• 48:33
  able
• 48:34
  to
• 48:34
  show
• 48:34
  up
• 48:34
  and
• 48:34
  love
• 48:35
  and
• 48:35
  support
• 48:35
  and
• 48:35
  encourage
• 48:36
  each
• 48:36
  other
• 48:36
  so
• 48:36
  that,
• 48:36
  that
• 48:37
  point
• 48:37
  they
• 48:37
  can
• 48:37
  like
• 48:38
  stop
• 48:38
  paying
• 48:38
  for
• 48:38
  help
• 48:39
  and
• 48:39
  have
• 48:40
  a
• 48:40
  friendship
• 48:40
  where
• 48:41
  they're
• 48:41
  connected
• 48:41
  there.
• 48:42
  So
• 48:42
  that's,
• 48:43
  that's
• 48:43
  what
• 48:43
  it
• 48:43
  is.
• 48:44
  Because
• 48:44
  in
• 48:44
  the,
• 48:44
  in
• 48:45
  the
• 48:45
  group,
• 48:45
  the
• 48:45
  Facebook
• 48:46
  group
• 48:46
  that
• 48:46
  they're
• 48:46
  all
• 48:46
  the
• 48:47
  big
• 48:47
  group.
• 48:48
  That's
• 48:48
  an
• 48:48
  additional
• 48:49
  part
• 48:49
  of
• 48:49
  the
• 48:49
  blueprint.
• 48:50
  They.
• 48:50
  I
• 48:51
  have
• 48:51
  guest
• 48:51
  speakers
• 48:52
  that
• 48:52
  come
• 48:52
  in
• 48:52
  that
• 48:52
  talk
• 48:53
  about
• 48:53
  finances
• 48:54
  or
• 48:54
  you
• 48:55
  know,
• 48:55
  different
• 48:55
  parts
• 48:55
  of
• 48:55
  healing.
• 48:56
  Like
• 48:56
  definitely
• 48:57
  going
• 48:57
  to
• 48:57
  throw
• 48:57
  in
• 48:57
  some
• 48:57
  RT
• 48:58
  therapy
• 48:59
  that
• 48:59
  we
• 48:59
  talked
• 48:59
  about.
• 48:59
  Like
• 49:00
  some
• 49:00
  things
• 49:00
  that
• 49:00
  are
• 49:00
  like
• 49:01
  really
• 49:01
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• 49:01
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• 49:02
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• 49:02
  necessarily
• 49:03
  things
• 49:03
  I'm
• 49:03
  an
• 49:03
  expert
• 49:03
  in.
• 49:04
  So
• 49:04
  bringing
• 49:04
  more
• 49:04
  people
• 49:05
  in
• 49:05
  that
• 49:05
  are
• 49:05
  like
• 49:07
  I
• 49:07
  don't.
• 49:07
  You
• 49:07
  don't
• 49:07
  want
• 49:08
  me
• 49:08
  to
• 49:08
  talk
• 49:08
  to
• 49:08
  you
• 49:08
  about
• 49:08
  finances?
• 49:09
  Somebody
• 49:09
  should
• 49:10
  shut
• 49:10
  off
• 49:10
  my
• 49:10
  Amazon
• 49:10
  account.
• 49:11
  So
• 49:11
  we're
• 49:12
  bringing
• 49:12
  in
• 49:12
  this
• 49:13
  guy,
• 49:13
  you
• 49:14
  know,
• 49:14
  to
• 49:14
  talk
• 49:15
  to
• 49:15
  talk
• 49:15
  to
• 49:15
  all
• 49:15
  of
• 49:16
  us
• 49:16
  because
• 49:16
  I
• 49:16
  shouldn't
• 49:17
  talk
• 49:17
  to
• 49:17
  you
• 49:17
  about
• 49:17
  it.
• 49:18
  So
• 49:18
  yeah,
• 49:18
  there's
• 49:19
  a
• 49:19
  big
• 49:19
  part.
• 49:19
  But,
• 49:19
  but
• 49:20
  the
• 49:20
  goal
• 49:20
  is.
• 49:20
  Yeah.
• 49:21
  That
• 49:21
  you
• 49:21
  get
• 49:21
  what
• 49:21
  you
• 49:22
  need
• 49:22
  and
• 49:22
  then
• 49:22
  you
• 49:22
  have
• 49:23
  these
• 49:23
  connections
• 49:23
  that
• 49:23
  are
• 49:23
  going
• 49:24
  to
• 49:24
  be
• 49:24
  with
• 49:24
  you
• 49:24
  a
• 49:24
  lifetime
• 49:25
  because
• 49:25
  you're
• 49:25
  always
• 49:25
  going
• 49:25
  to
• 49:25
  have
• 49:26
  this
• 49:26
  loss,
• 49:26
  always
• 49:26
  going
• 49:27
  to
• 49:27
  have
• 49:27
  this
• 49:27
  grief
• 49:27
  to
• 49:27
  an
• 49:28
  extent.
• 49:28
  So
• 49:28
  you
• 49:28
  want
• 49:29
  somebody
• 49:29
  to
• 49:29
  just
• 49:30
  walk
• 49:30
  through
• 49:30
  the
• 49:30
  rest
• 49:31
  of
• 49:31
  your
• 49:31
  life
• 49:31
  with
• 49:31
  you.
• 49:32
  Wow,
• 49:33
  that's
• 49:34
  amazing.
• 49:36
  Yeah.
• 49:37
  Now
• 49:38
  ask
• 49:38
  me
• 49:38
  what
• 49:38
  happened
• 49:39
  when
• 49:39
  she
• 49:39
  asked
• 49:39
  me
• 49:39
  if
• 49:39
  I've
• 49:40
  ever
• 49:40
  heard
• 49:40
  of
• 49:40
  Marco
• 49:40
  Polo.
• 49:41
  She
• 49:41
  asked
• 49:42
  if
• 49:42
  it
• 49:42
  was
• 49:42
  the
• 49:42
  game.
• 49:44
  Oh
• 49:44
  no.
• 49:44
  That's
• 49:45
  so
• 49:45
  cute.
• 49:45
  She
• 49:46
  looks
• 49:46
  so
• 49:46
  Asian.
• 49:47
  Oh
• 49:48
  no,
• 49:48
  no.
• 49:49
  You
• 49:49
  don't
• 49:49
  know.
• 49:49
  It's
• 49:50
  so
• 49:50
  fun.
• 49:50
  It's
• 49:51
  good
• 49:51
  for
• 49:51
  friends.
• 49:51
  It
• 49:52
  can't
• 49:52
  be
• 49:52
  physically
• 49:53
  with
• 49:53
  each
• 49:53
  other
• 49:54
  like
• 49:54
  because
• 49:54
  it's
• 49:55
  for
• 49:55
  the
• 49:55
  people
• 49:55
  that
• 49:55
  I
• 49:56
  don't
• 49:56
  ever
• 49:56
  get
• 49:56
  to
• 49:56
  see.
• 49:57
  We
• 49:57
  talk
• 49:57
  Every
• 49:57
  day
• 49:58
  on
• 49:58
  there,
• 49:59
  it's
• 49:59
  like
• 49:59
  a
• 49:59
  voice.
• 50:00
  It's
• 50:00
  like
• 50:00
  a.
• 50:00
  It's
• 50:01
  like.
• 50:01
  It's
• 50:01
  like
• 50:02
  instead
• 50:02
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• 50:02
  just
• 50:02
  making
• 50:02
  a
• 50:03
  voice
• 50:03
  memo,
• 50:03
  you
• 50:03
  get
• 50:03
  the
• 50:03
  video
• 50:04
  too.
• 50:04
  You
• 50:04
  get
• 50:04
  to
• 50:04
  see
• 50:05
  and
• 50:06
  kind
• 50:06
  of
• 50:07
  be
• 50:07
  with
• 50:07
  your
• 50:07
  person
• 50:07
  in
• 50:07
  a
• 50:07
  way.
• 50:08
  It's
• 50:08
  more
• 50:08
  intimate,
• 50:08
  for
• 50:08
  sure.
• 50:09
  More.
• 50:10
  More
• 50:10
  connected
• 50:11
  than
• 50:12
  a
• 50:12
  text
• 50:12
  or.
• 50:13
  Text
• 50:13
  is
• 50:14
  cold.
• 50:15
  You
• 50:15
  get
• 50:15
  the.
• 50:15
  Yeah,
• 50:15
  it's
• 50:16
  great.
• 50:16
  And
• 50:16
  that's
• 50:16
  how
• 50:16
  I
• 50:17
  prefer
• 50:17
  to
• 50:17
  speak
• 50:17
  with
• 50:18
  my.
• 50:18
  My
• 50:18
  clients,
• 50:18
  because
• 50:19
  I
• 50:19
  need
• 50:19
  to
• 50:19
  pick
• 50:19
  up
• 50:19
  on
• 50:19
  energy
• 50:20
  and,
• 50:20
  you
• 50:21
  know,
• 50:21
  do
• 50:21
  they
• 50:21
  look
• 50:21
  like
• 50:22
  they
• 50:22
  brushed
• 50:22
  their
• 50:22
  hair
• 50:22
  today?
• 50:22
  Are
• 50:23
  they
• 50:23
  still
• 50:23
  in
• 50:23
  bed?
• 50:23
  You
• 50:24
  know,
• 50:24
  like,
• 50:25
  stuff
• 50:25
  like
• 50:25
  that
• 50:25
  you
• 50:26
  can't
• 50:26
  pull.
• 50:26
  Yeah,
• 50:27
  no,
• 50:27
  no.
• 50:27
  Tricking
• 50:28
  you.
• 50:28
  Yeah.
• 50:28
  Have
• 50:29
  you
• 50:29
  had
• 50:29
  to
• 50:30
  fire
• 50:31
  a
• 50:31
  client?
• 50:32
  Like,
• 50:32
  you're
• 50:32
  trying
• 50:33
  to
• 50:33
  bring
• 50:33
  them
• 50:34
  to
• 50:34
  the
• 50:34
  healing
• 50:35
  journey,
• 50:35
  and
• 50:35
  you're
• 50:35
  trying.
• 50:35
  You're
• 50:35
  trying,
• 50:36
  but
• 50:36
  you
• 50:36
  know
• 50:37
  that
• 50:37
  you
• 50:37
  want
• 50:37
  it
• 50:37
  more
• 50:37
  than
• 50:37
  they
• 50:38
  do
• 50:38
  at
• 50:38
  this
• 50:38
  moment.
• 50:38
  And
• 50:39
  you're
• 50:39
  like,
• 50:40
  we
• 50:40
  gotta
• 50:40
  cut
• 50:41
  ties
• 50:41
  for
• 50:41
  a
• 50:41
  little
• 50:41
  bit.
• 50:41
  Yeah.
• 50:42
  They
• 50:42
  stop
• 50:42
  coming.
• 50:43
  They.
• 50:43
  They
• 50:44
  quit.
• 50:45
  They
• 50:45
  know.
• 50:45
  Yeah.
• 50:46
  They
• 50:46
  know
• 50:46
  that
• 50:46
  they
• 50:46
  can't
• 50:46
  do
• 50:47
  it
• 50:47
  anymore
• 50:48
  because,
• 50:48
  like,
• 50:49
  with
• 50:49
  the.
• 50:49
  The
• 50:50
  beginning
• 50:50
  part
• 50:50
  of
• 50:50
  the
• 50:51
  program,
• 50:52
  you
• 50:52
  have
• 50:52
  to
• 50:52
  do
• 50:52
  homework.
• 50:53
  Like,
• 50:54
  so
• 50:54
  you.
• 50:54
  We
• 50:54
  don't
• 50:55
  do
• 50:55
  your
• 50:55
  loss
• 50:55
  history
• 50:55
  graph
• 50:56
  together.
• 50:56
  Like,
• 50:57
  you
• 50:57
  do
• 50:57
  that
• 50:57
  on
• 50:57
  your
• 50:58
  own,
• 50:58
  and
• 50:58
  then
• 50:59
  you
• 50:59
  come
• 50:59
  back
• 50:59
  and
• 50:59
  we
• 51:00
  share
• 51:00
  it.
• 51:00
  Okay,
• 51:01
  let
• 51:01
  me
• 51:01
  just
• 51:01
  say
• 51:01
  that
• 51:01
  sounds
• 51:02
  terrifying
• 51:02
  to
• 51:03
  me.
• 51:03
  Like,
• 51:04
  right,
• 51:04
  That's.
• 51:04
  If
• 51:05
  I'm
• 51:05
  already,
• 51:06
  like,
• 51:06
  empty
• 51:06
  and
• 51:07
  you're
• 51:07
  asking
• 51:07
  me
• 51:07
  to
• 51:07
  do
• 51:08
  something,
• 51:09
  like,
• 51:09
  how.
• 51:10
  How
• 51:10
  does
• 51:10
  that
• 51:11
  work?
• 51:11
  I'm
• 51:11
  already
• 51:11
  empty.
• 51:12
  Right.
• 51:12
  Well,
• 51:12
  that's
• 51:13
  why
• 51:13
  I
• 51:13
  offer,
• 51:13
  like,
• 51:14
  basically
• 51:14
  unlimited
• 51:15
  support.
• 51:16
  It's
• 51:16
  because
• 51:16
  when
• 51:17
  you
• 51:17
  go
• 51:17
  off
• 51:17
  to
• 51:18
  yourself
• 51:18
  and
• 51:18
  you're
• 51:18
  like,
• 51:19
  oh,
• 51:19
  my
• 51:19
  gosh,
• 51:20
  like,
• 51:21
  had
• 51:21
  women
• 51:21
  come
• 51:22
  sit
• 51:22
  with
• 51:22
  me
• 51:23
  out
• 51:23
  by
• 51:23
  the
• 51:23
  pool
• 51:24
  and
• 51:24
  do
• 51:24
  it,
• 51:25
  because
• 51:25
  they're
• 51:25
  like,
• 51:25
  okay,
• 51:26
  like,
• 51:26
  I
• 51:26
  made.
• 51:26
  I've
• 51:26
  got
• 51:27
  one
• 51:27
  down.
• 51:27
  Like,
• 51:27
  okay,
• 51:28
  like,
• 51:28
  let's
• 51:28
  do
• 51:29
  the
• 51:29
  next.
• 51:29
  And
• 51:29
  you
• 51:30
  know,
• 51:30
  like,
• 51:30
  they
• 51:30
  need
• 51:31
  that
• 51:31
  support.
• 51:31
  And
• 51:31
  that
• 51:31
  was
• 51:32
  one
• 51:32
  thing.
• 51:32
  When
• 51:32
  I
• 51:32
  started
• 51:32
  originally
• 51:33
  doing
• 51:33
  this,
• 51:33
  I
• 51:33
  was
• 51:33
  just
• 51:34
  doing
• 51:34
  the
• 51:34
  grief
• 51:34
  groups
• 51:35
  once
• 51:35
  a
• 51:35
  week.
• 51:36
  Like,
• 51:36
  you
• 51:36
  could
• 51:36
  text
• 51:37
  me,
• 51:37
  but,
• 51:37
  you
• 51:38
  know,
• 51:38
  it
• 51:38
  wasn't
• 51:38
  really
• 51:38
  encouraged.
• 51:39
  And
• 51:40
  I'm
• 51:40
  like,
• 51:40
  gosh,
• 51:40
  they
• 51:40
  need
• 51:41
  so
• 51:41
  much
• 51:41
  more.
• 51:41
  You
• 51:42
  need
• 51:42
  that
• 51:42
  hand
• 51:42
  holding
• 51:43
  and
• 51:43
  somebody
• 51:43
  to
• 51:44
  be
• 51:44
  like,
• 51:44
  okay,
• 51:44
  like,
• 51:45
  and
• 51:45
  for
• 51:45
  you,
• 51:45
  if
• 51:46
  you
• 51:46
  were
• 51:46
  like,
• 51:46
  if
• 51:46
  you
• 51:46
  were
• 51:47
  telling
• 51:47
  me,
• 51:48
  you
• 51:48
  know,
• 51:49
  that
• 51:49
  sounds
• 51:49
  like
• 51:49
  too
• 51:50
  much
• 51:50
  for
• 51:50
  me,
• 51:51
  then
• 51:51
  I'd
• 51:51
  be
• 51:51
  like,
• 51:51
  okay,
• 51:52
  we're
• 51:52
  gonna
• 51:52
  set
• 51:52
  aside
• 51:53
  30
• 51:53
  minutes
• 51:54
  because
• 51:54
  that's
• 51:54
  all
• 51:54
  it
• 51:54
  should
• 51:54
  take.
• 51:55
  And
• 51:56
  we're
• 51:56
  gonna.
• 51:56
  I'm
• 51:57
  gonna
• 51:57
  stay
• 51:57
  on
• 51:57
  the
• 51:57
  phone
• 51:57
  with
• 51:57
  you,
• 51:57
  sound
• 51:58
  video
• 51:58
  with
• 51:58
  you.
• 51:59
  You're
• 52:00
  gonna
• 52:00
  do
• 52:00
  it,
• 52:00
  and
• 52:00
  then
• 52:01
  we're
• 52:01
  both
• 52:01
  gonna
• 52:01
  agree
• 52:02
  when
• 52:02
  you're
• 52:02
  done
• 52:02
  that
• 52:03
  you're
• 52:03
  gonna
• 52:03
  get
• 52:03
  up
• 52:03
  and
• 52:03
  go
• 52:03
  do
• 52:04
  something.
• 52:04
  You're
• 52:04
  gonna
• 52:05
  go
• 52:05
  for
• 52:05
  a
• 52:05
  walk.
• 52:05
  You're
• 52:05
  gonna
• 52:06
  go
• 52:06
  take
• 52:06
  a
• 52:06
  shower.
• 52:06
  You're
• 52:06
  gonna
• 52:07
  go
• 52:07
  get
• 52:07
  a
• 52:07
  massage.
• 52:07
  You
• 52:07
  may
• 52:07
  go
• 52:08
  out
• 52:08
  and
• 52:08
  dinner
• 52:08
  with
• 52:08
  a
• 52:08
  friend.
• 52:09
  Like,
• 52:09
  you're
• 52:09
  closing
• 52:09
  the
• 52:10
  door.
• 52:10
  You
• 52:10
  don't
• 52:10
  need
• 52:10
  to
• 52:10
  carry
• 52:11
  it
• 52:11
  the
• 52:11
  rest
• 52:11
  of
• 52:11
  the
• 52:11
  day
• 52:11
  until
• 52:12
  we
• 52:12
  meet
• 52:12
  again.
• 52:13
  And
• 52:13
  so
• 52:13
  really
• 52:13
  just
• 52:14
  being
• 52:14
  that
• 52:14
  voice
• 52:14
  for
• 52:14
  you,
• 52:15
  that's
• 52:15
  like,
• 52:15
  it's
• 52:15
  over.
• 52:16
  Like,
• 52:17
  you
• 52:17
  did
• 52:18
  your
• 52:18
  work.
• 52:18
  You
• 52:18
  did
• 52:19
  what?
• 52:19
  You
• 52:19
  swallowed
• 52:19
  your
• 52:19
  frog.
• 52:20
  Yeah,
• 52:20
  you
• 52:20
  swallowed
• 52:21
  frog.
• 52:21
  Like,
• 52:22
  move
• 52:22
  on
• 52:22
  with
• 52:22
  your
• 52:22
  day.
• 52:22
  Like,
• 52:23
  you
• 52:23
  did
• 52:23
  what
• 52:23
  you
• 52:23
  were
• 52:23
  supposed
• 52:24
  to
• 52:24
  do.
• 52:24
  And
• 52:25
  so
• 52:25
  that
• 52:25
  felt
• 52:25
  helps
• 52:26
  us.
• 52:26
  Instead
• 52:26
  of
• 52:26
  just
• 52:26
  like,
• 52:27
  lingering
• 52:27
  and
• 52:28
  mulling
• 52:28
  over
• 52:28
  something
• 52:29
  all
• 52:29
  day,
• 52:29
  all
• 52:30
  week,
• 52:30
  all
• 52:30
  month,
• 52:30
  for
• 52:30
  a
• 52:31
  year,
• 52:31
  we're
• 52:31
  like,
• 52:31
  I
• 52:32
  did
• 52:32
  my
• 52:32
  work.
• 52:32
  I
• 52:33
  did
• 52:33
  what?
• 52:33
  It's
• 52:33
  like
• 52:34
  this
• 52:34
  huge.
• 52:36
  Like,
• 52:36
  I
• 52:36
  love
• 52:37
  that
• 52:37
  you're
• 52:37
  like,
• 52:38
  you
• 52:38
  can't
• 52:39
  just
• 52:39
  go
• 52:39
  and
• 52:40
  talk
• 52:40
  about
• 52:40
  it
• 52:40
  with
• 52:40
  me.
• 52:40
  We're
• 52:41
  not
• 52:41
  just
• 52:41
  going
• 52:41
  to
• 52:41
  sit
• 52:41
  there
• 52:41
  and
• 52:42
  talk
• 52:42
  about
• 52:42
  it.
• 52:43
  You
• 52:43
  know
• 52:44
  what's
• 52:44
  really
• 52:44
  different
• 52:44
  though,
• 52:45
  too,
• 52:45
  is
• 52:45
  that
• 52:46
  when
• 52:47
  we
• 52:48
  go
• 52:48
  to
• 52:49
  our
• 52:49
  therapist,
• 52:49
  because
• 52:50
  we're
• 52:50
  going
• 52:50
  through
• 52:51
  shit
• 52:51
  or
• 52:51
  whatever
• 52:51
  and
• 52:52
  we're
• 52:52
  trying
• 52:52
  to
• 52:52
  figure
• 52:52
  stuff
• 52:52
  out,
• 52:53
  we're
• 52:53
  paying
• 52:54
  by
• 52:55
  the
• 52:55
  hour.
• 52:56
  She's
• 52:56
  offering.
• 52:57
  And
• 52:57
  correct
• 52:57
  me
• 52:58
  if
• 52:58
  I'm
• 52:58
  wrong,
• 52:58
  of
• 52:58
  course,
• 52:59
  that's
• 52:59
  unlimited
• 53:00
  help
• 53:00
  and
• 53:01
  assistance
• 53:01
  for
• 53:01
  six
• 53:02
  months.
• 53:02
  So
• 53:03
  it's
• 53:03
  not
• 53:03
  like,
• 53:04
  if
• 53:04
  you
• 53:05
  do
• 53:05
  need
• 53:05
  assistance
• 53:06
  and,
• 53:06
  like,
• 53:06
  let's
• 53:07
  do
• 53:07
  a
• 53:07
  video
• 53:07
  sitting
• 53:08
  at
• 53:08
  the
• 53:08
  pool
• 53:08
  and
• 53:09
  help
• 53:09
  me,
• 53:09
  like,
• 53:09
  sit
• 53:10
  here
• 53:10
  and
• 53:10
  walk
• 53:10
  through
• 53:10
  it.
• 53:10
  Like,
• 53:10
  you
• 53:11
  don't
• 53:11
  have
• 53:11
  that
• 53:11
  extra
• 53:11
  stress
• 53:12
  of,
• 53:12
  okay,
• 53:13
  well,
• 53:13
  this
• 53:13
  is
• 53:13
  another
• 53:14
  hour
• 53:15
  that,
• 53:16
  you
• 53:16
  know,
• 53:16
  I
• 53:16
  could
• 53:16
  have
• 53:16
  done
• 53:16
  it
• 53:17
  by
• 53:17
  myself,
• 53:17
  but
• 53:18
  now
• 53:18
  I
• 53:18
  have
• 53:18
  to
• 53:18
  pay
• 53:18
  for
• 53:18
  an
• 53:19
  extra
• 53:19
  hour
• 53:19
  because
• 53:19
  I
• 53:19
  needed
• 53:19
  extra
• 53:20
  help.
• 53:20
  And
• 53:20
  it's
• 53:21
  like,
• 53:21
  it's
• 53:21
  just
• 53:21
  all
• 53:21
  lumped
• 53:22
  in,
• 53:22
  and
• 53:22
  that's
• 53:22
  like.
• 53:23
  That's
• 53:23
  wild.
• 53:24
  Yeah.
• 53:24
  Yeah.
• 53:26
  Because.
• 53:26
  Because
• 53:27
  I
• 53:27
  was
• 53:27
  thinking,
• 53:27
  like,
• 53:28
  you
• 53:28
  know,
• 53:28
  there's
• 53:28
  no
• 53:28
  such.
• 53:29
  I've
• 53:29
  said
• 53:29
  this
• 53:30
  before,
• 53:30
  probably
• 53:31
  because
• 53:31
  it's
• 53:31
  something
• 53:32
  that's
• 53:32
  on
• 53:32
  my
• 53:32
  mind
• 53:32
  a
• 53:32
  lot,
• 53:33
  but
• 53:33
  there's
• 53:33
  no
• 53:33
  such
• 53:33
  thing
• 53:33
  as
• 53:34
  just
• 53:34
  sitting
• 53:34
  in
• 53:34
  a
• 53:35
  stagnant,
• 53:35
  like
• 53:37
  a
• 53:37
  stasis.
• 53:37
  There's
• 53:38
  just.
• 53:38
  It
• 53:38
  doesn't
• 53:39
  happen.
• 53:39
  You're
• 53:40
  either
• 53:40
  progressing
• 53:41
  forward
• 53:41
  or
• 53:41
  you're
• 53:42
  falling
• 53:42
  behind.
• 53:42
  And
• 53:42
  so
• 53:43
  the
• 53:43
  more
• 53:43
  you're
• 53:43
  just
• 53:43
  sitting
• 53:43
  there,
• 53:44
  not
• 53:44
  doing
• 53:44
  the
• 53:44
  things
• 53:45
  and
• 53:45
  taking
• 53:45
  steps,
• 53:46
  the
• 53:46
  worse
• 53:46
  it's
• 53:46
  going
• 53:47
  to
• 53:47
  get.
• 53:47
  So
• 53:48
  I
• 53:48
  love
• 53:48
  that
• 53:48
  you're
• 53:48
  like,
• 53:48
  no,
• 53:49
  you
• 53:49
  need
• 53:49
  to
• 53:49
  get
• 53:49
  out.
• 53:50
  We're
• 53:50
  going
• 53:50
  to
• 53:50
  do
• 53:50
  steps.
• 53:51
  It's
• 53:52
  not
• 53:52
  just,
• 53:53
  let's
• 53:54
  talk
• 53:54
  about
• 53:54
  it.
• 53:55
  Yeah.
• 53:55
  And
• 53:55
  I
• 53:55
  also
• 53:55
  think
• 53:56
  there's
• 53:56
  some
• 53:56
  incentives.
• 53:57
  So
• 53:57
  you
• 53:57
  got
• 53:57
  six
• 53:58
  months,
• 53:58
  right,
• 53:58
  where
• 53:59
  therapy
• 53:59
  is
• 53:59
  indefinite.
• 54:00
  You
• 54:00
  go
• 54:00
  therapy
• 54:01
  the
• 54:01
  rest
• 54:01
  of
• 54:01
  your
• 54:01
  life.
• 54:02
  So
• 54:02
  I'm
• 54:02
  saying,
• 54:02
  hey,
• 54:03
  you
• 54:03
  know,
• 54:03
  you're
• 54:03
  investing.
• 54:04
  So
• 54:04
  for
• 54:04
  my
• 54:04
  course,
• 54:05
  you're
• 54:06
  investing
• 54:06
  this
• 54:06
  amount
• 54:07
  of
• 54:07
  money
• 54:07
  and
• 54:08
  you
• 54:08
  could
• 54:09
  totally,
• 54:09
  like,
• 54:10
  use
• 54:10
  up
• 54:10
  all
• 54:11
  my
• 54:11
  time.
• 54:12
  You
• 54:12
  could
• 54:12
  take
• 54:12
  such
• 54:13
  advantage
• 54:13
  of
• 54:13
  this
• 54:14
  opportunity
• 54:15
  and
• 54:15
  be
• 54:15
  like
• 54:15
  in
• 54:15
  a
• 54:16
  completely
• 54:16
  different
• 54:16
  space
• 54:17
  in
• 54:17
  six
• 54:17
  months.
• 54:18
  Or
• 54:18
  you
• 54:18
  could
• 54:18
  pay
• 54:18
  me
• 54:19
  the
• 54:19
  same
• 54:19
  amount
• 54:19
  of
• 54:19
  money
• 54:20
  and
• 54:20
  halfway
• 54:21
  do
• 54:21
  it
• 54:21
  and
• 54:22
  still
• 54:22
  have
• 54:22
  issues
• 54:22
  in
• 54:23
  six
• 54:23
  months.
• 54:23
  Like,
• 54:23
  what
• 54:24
  are
• 54:24
  you
• 54:24
  choosing
• 54:24
  to
• 54:24
  do?
• 54:25
  Like,
• 54:25
  I
• 54:25
  say,
• 54:25
  like,
• 54:26
  let's
• 54:26
  get
• 54:26
  like,
• 54:27
  let's
• 54:27
  hit
• 54:27
  the
• 54:27
  ground
• 54:27
  running.
• 54:28
  Like,
• 54:28
  let's
• 54:29
  just
• 54:29
  like
• 54:29
  kick
• 54:30
  some
• 54:30
  doors
• 54:30
  down
• 54:31
  and
• 54:31
  see
• 54:31
  what's
• 54:31
  possible
• 54:32
  for
• 54:32
  you.
• 54:33
  And
• 54:33
  so
• 54:33
  it's
• 54:33
  not
• 54:34
  like
• 54:34
  they're
• 54:35
  still
• 54:35
  going
• 54:35
  at
• 54:35
  their
• 54:36
  pace,
• 54:36
  but
• 54:36
  there's
• 54:36
  going
• 54:37
  to
• 54:37
  be,
• 54:37
  there's
• 54:37
  some
• 54:38
  incentive
• 54:39
  to
• 54:39
  like,
• 54:39
  get
• 54:39
  in
• 54:39
  there
• 54:40
  and
• 54:40
  get
• 54:40
  it,
• 54:40
  get
• 54:40
  it
• 54:41
  done
• 54:41
  and
• 54:41
  see
• 54:42
  what's
• 54:42
  possible
• 54:43
  as
• 54:43
  opposed
• 54:43
  to,
• 54:44
  like,
• 54:44
  and
• 54:44
  I'll
• 54:45
  just
• 54:45
  talk
• 54:45
  about
• 54:45
  it
• 54:46
  next
• 54:46
  week,
• 54:47
  you
• 54:47
  know.
• 54:47
  Yeah.
• 54:49
  So
• 54:49
  what
• 54:49
  advice
• 54:49
  do
• 54:50
  you
• 54:50
  leave?
• 54:50
  Would
• 54:51
  you
• 54:51
  leave
• 54:51
  with
• 54:52
  our
• 54:52
  listeners?
• 54:52
  Like,
• 54:53
  let's
• 54:53
  just
• 54:53
  say,
• 54:54
  hey,
• 54:55
  my
• 54:55
  husband
• 54:55
  just
• 54:56
  died.
• 54:56
  Like,
• 54:57
  what,
• 54:57
  what,
• 54:58
  what
• 54:58
  are
• 54:58
  you
• 54:59
  telling
• 54:59
  them?
• 54:59
  What
• 55:00
  do
• 55:00
  they
• 55:00
  need
• 55:00
  to
• 55:00
  hear
• 55:00
  right
• 55:00
  now?
• 55:02
  If
• 55:02
  it
• 55:02
  just
• 55:02
  happened?
• 55:03
  Like,
• 55:03
  definitely
• 55:04
  making
• 55:04
  sure
• 55:04
  the
• 55:04
  basic
• 55:05
  needs
• 55:05
  are
• 55:05
  taken
• 55:05
  care
• 55:05
  of.
• 55:06
  Are
• 55:06
  you
• 55:06
  sleeping?
• 55:06
  Are
• 55:06
  you
• 55:07
  eating?
• 55:07
  Something
• 55:08
  I
• 55:08
  want
• 55:08
  to
• 55:08
  address
• 55:09
  and
• 55:10
  that
• 55:11
  we
• 55:11
  haven't
• 55:11
  talked
• 55:11
  about.
• 55:11
  I
• 55:12
  was,
• 55:12
  I
• 55:12
  took
• 55:13
  antidepressants
• 55:14
  for
• 55:15
  I
• 55:15
  think
• 55:15
  six
• 55:15
  months
• 55:16
  after
• 55:16
  my
• 55:16
  husband
• 55:17
  died
• 55:17
  and
• 55:17
  six
• 55:17
  months
• 55:18
  before.
• 55:18
  And
• 55:18
  I
• 55:19
  was
• 55:19
  having
• 55:19
  panic
• 55:19
  attacks
• 55:20
  and
• 55:21
  I
• 55:22
  felt
• 55:22
  like
• 55:22
  taking
• 55:23
  them
• 55:23
  was
• 55:23
  a
• 55:23
  cop
• 55:24
  out.
• 55:25
  And
• 55:25
  I
• 55:25
  was
• 55:26
  like,
• 55:26
  this
• 55:27
  is
• 55:27
  like,
• 55:28
  he's
• 55:28
  having
• 55:28
  to
• 55:28
  suffer.
• 55:29
  He
• 55:29
  can't
• 55:29
  do
• 55:30
  anything
• 55:30
  about
• 55:30
  it,
• 55:31
  but
• 55:31
  I'm
• 55:32
  gonna
• 55:32
  like,
• 55:32
  medicate
• 55:33
  myself.
• 55:34
  And
• 55:34
  I
• 55:34
  felt
• 55:34
  you
• 55:34
  had
• 55:35
  about
• 55:35
  it
• 55:35
  survivor's
• 55:36
  guilt.
• 55:37
  Yeah.
• 55:37
  And
• 55:37
  so
• 55:37
  I
• 55:38
  was
• 55:38
  like,
• 55:38
  you
• 55:38
  know,
• 55:38
  like,
• 55:38
  I
• 55:39
  should
• 55:39
  suffer
• 55:39
  just
• 55:39
  as
• 55:40
  much
• 55:40
  as
• 55:40
  he
• 55:40
  is.
• 55:40
  Like,
• 55:40
  that's
• 55:40
  kind
• 55:41
  of
• 55:41
  my
• 55:41
  mindset.
• 55:42
  But
• 55:42
  like,
• 55:42
  once
• 55:42
  I
• 55:42
  got
• 55:42
  on
• 55:43
  em,
• 55:43
  I
• 55:43
  realized
• 55:43
  that,
• 55:44
  like,
• 55:44
  I
• 55:44
  was
• 55:44
  able
• 55:44
  to
• 55:45
  function
• 55:45
  through
• 55:45
  some
• 55:45
  of
• 55:45
  the
• 55:46
  days
• 55:46
  that
• 55:46
  were
• 55:46
  the
• 55:46
  hardest.
• 55:47
  And
• 55:47
  I
• 55:47
  took
• 55:47
  the
• 55:48
  pills
• 55:48
  appropriately
• 55:49
  and
• 55:49
  I
• 55:49
  weaned
• 55:49
  off
• 55:50
  appropriately.
• 55:51
  But
• 55:51
  like,
• 55:52
  I
• 55:52
  was
• 55:52
  like,
• 55:52
  this
• 55:52
  is
• 55:53
  short
• 55:53
  term.
• 55:53
  This
• 55:53
  is
• 55:54
  just
• 55:54
  something
• 55:54
  that
• 55:54
  I'm
• 55:54
  doing.
• 55:55
  So.
• 55:55
  And
• 55:55
  I
• 55:55
  see
• 55:55
  that
• 55:56
  a
• 55:56
  lot
• 55:56
  of
• 55:56
  women
• 55:56
  that
• 55:56
  they're
• 55:57
  just
• 55:57
  so
• 55:57
  deep
• 55:58
  into
• 55:58
  it
• 55:58
  that
• 55:58
  like
• 55:58
  an
• 55:59
  antidepressant
• 55:59
  would
• 55:59
  be
• 56:00
  really
• 56:00
  helpful.
• 56:00
  And
• 56:01
  like,
• 56:01
  I'm
• 56:01
  not
• 56:01
  a
• 56:01
  doctor,
• 56:01
  I'm
• 56:02
  not
• 56:02
  prescribing,
• 56:02
  I'm
• 56:03
  not
• 56:03
  doing
• 56:03
  that.
• 56:03
  But
• 56:03
  I
• 56:04
  am
• 56:04
  saying
• 56:04
  that,
• 56:04
  like,
• 56:05
  if
• 56:05
  you're
• 56:06
  in
• 56:06
  that
• 56:06
  space
• 56:06
  where
• 56:07
  like,
• 56:07
  you
• 56:07
  physically
• 56:07
  can't
• 56:08
  get
• 56:08
  out
• 56:08
  of
• 56:08
  bed
• 56:08
  or
• 56:08
  you're
• 56:09
  having
• 56:09
  panic
• 56:09
  attacks
• 56:10
  that
• 56:10
  are
• 56:10
  just
• 56:10
  like
• 56:10
  your
• 56:10
  body's
• 56:11
  out
• 56:11
  of
• 56:11
  control,
• 56:12
  like
• 56:12
  getting
• 56:12
  help
• 56:13
  with
• 56:13
  that
• 56:13
  is
• 56:14
  not
• 56:14
  something
• 56:14
  that
• 56:15
  you
• 56:15
  should
• 56:15
  just
• 56:15
  dismiss
• 56:16
  and
• 56:16
  understand
• 56:17
  that
• 56:17
  it's
• 56:17
  a
• 56:17
  temporary
• 56:18
  thing
• 56:18
  and
• 56:18
  you're
• 56:18
  going
• 56:18
  to
• 56:18
  start
• 56:18
  working.
• 56:19
  So
• 56:20
  if
• 56:20
  that's
• 56:21
  the
• 56:21
  case
• 56:21
  and
• 56:21
  you
• 56:22
  need
• 56:22
  that,
• 56:22
  but
• 56:22
  you
• 56:23
  have
• 56:23
  to
• 56:23
  have
• 56:23
  basic
• 56:24
  needs
• 56:24
  taken
• 56:24
  care
• 56:24
  of.
• 56:24
  Are
• 56:25
  you
• 56:25
  eating?
• 56:25
  Are
• 56:25
  you
• 56:25
  sleeping?
• 56:26
  And
• 56:26
  are
• 56:27
  you
• 56:27
  able
• 56:27
  to
• 56:27
  stay
• 56:27
  awake?
• 56:28
  And
• 56:28
  then
• 56:29
  from
• 56:29
  there,
• 56:29
  like,
• 56:30
  I
• 56:31
  want
• 56:31
  you
• 56:31
  to
• 56:31
  know
• 56:32
  that
• 56:33
  there
• 56:33
  is
• 56:34
  something
• 56:34
  beautiful
• 56:35
  that's
• 56:35
  going
• 56:35
  to
• 56:35
  come
• 56:35
  from
• 56:35
  this,
• 56:36
  and
• 56:36
  you
• 56:36
  really
• 56:36
  get
• 56:36
  to
• 56:36
  be
• 56:37
  the
• 56:37
  one
• 56:37
  that
• 56:37
  decides
• 56:37
  that.
• 56:38
  And
• 56:39
  so
• 56:39
  I
• 56:39
  want
• 56:39
  you
• 56:40
  to
• 56:41
  fully
• 56:41
  fill
• 56:42
  all
• 56:42
  your
• 56:42
  feelings,
• 56:43
  but
• 56:43
  understand
• 56:43
  that
• 56:44
  when
• 56:44
  you're
• 56:44
  ready,
• 56:44
  there's
• 56:45
  a
• 56:45
  path
• 56:45
  forward,
• 56:46
  and
• 56:47
  that
• 56:47
  you
• 56:47
  have
• 56:48
  so
• 56:48
  much
• 56:48
  purpose
• 56:49
  and
• 56:49
  so
• 56:49
  much
• 56:50
  value
• 56:50
  in
• 56:50
  your
• 56:51
  life
• 56:51
  that
• 56:52
  you
• 56:52
  need
• 56:52
  to
• 56:52
  keep
• 56:53
  getting
• 56:53
  up,
• 56:53
  you
• 56:53
  need
• 56:53
  to
• 56:54
  keep
• 56:54
  looking
• 56:54
  for
• 56:54
  that
• 56:55
  purpose
• 56:55
  and
• 56:55
  that
• 56:55
  light
• 56:56
  in
• 56:56
  your
• 56:56
  life
• 56:56
  and
• 56:57
  get
• 56:57
  help.
• 56:57
  I
• 56:58
  was
• 56:58
  in
• 56:58
  therapy
• 56:58
  six
• 56:58
  months
• 56:59
  before
• 56:59
  he
• 56:59
  passed
• 56:59
  away
• 57:00
  and
• 57:00
  six
• 57:00
  months
• 57:00
  after.
• 57:01
  And
• 57:02
  I
• 57:03
  knew
• 57:03
  very
• 57:03
  quick
• 57:03
  it
• 57:03
  wasn't
• 57:04
  a
• 57:04
  journey.
• 57:04
  I
• 57:04
  was
• 57:04
  going
• 57:04
  to
• 57:04
  walk
• 57:05
  alone.
• 57:05
  And
• 57:06
  if
• 57:06
  you're
• 57:06
  listening
• 57:06
  to
• 57:06
  this,
• 57:07
  you
• 57:07
  have
• 57:07
  me
• 57:08
  for
• 57:08
  sure.
• 57:08
  But
• 57:08
  you
• 57:08
  also
• 57:09
  have
• 57:09
  other
• 57:09
  options,
• 57:10
  too.
• 57:10
  And
• 57:11
  like.
• 57:11
  But
• 57:11
  the.
• 57:11
  The
• 57:12
  thing
• 57:12
  is,
• 57:12
  is
• 57:12
  you
• 57:12
  need
• 57:12
  to
• 57:13
  choose.
• 57:13
  You
• 57:13
  need
• 57:13
  to
• 57:13
  take
• 57:14
  action.
• 57:16
  One
• 57:16
  last
• 57:16
  thing
• 57:17
  that
• 57:17
  she
• 57:17
  made
• 57:17
  me.
• 57:18
  You
• 57:18
  made
• 57:18
  me
• 57:18
  think
• 57:18
  of
• 57:19
  just
• 57:19
  now
• 57:19
  when
• 57:19
  you
• 57:19
  were
• 57:19
  talking
• 57:20
  is
• 57:20
  earlier
• 57:21
  you
• 57:21
  had
• 57:21
  said
• 57:22
  something
• 57:22
  about.
• 57:23
  This
• 57:24
  is
• 57:24
  why
• 57:24
  it's
• 57:24
  so
• 57:24
  important
• 57:24
  that
• 57:25
  we
• 57:25
  address
• 57:25
  this.
• 57:25
  Because
• 57:27
  what.
• 57:28
  What
• 57:28
  we're
• 57:28
  feeling
• 57:29
  is
• 57:30
  just
• 57:30
  automatically
• 57:30
  going
• 57:31
  to
• 57:31
  get
• 57:31
  pushed
• 57:31
  back
• 57:31
  into
• 57:32
  the
• 57:32
  world
• 57:32
  and
• 57:32
  then
• 57:32
  start
• 57:32
  affecting
• 57:33
  other
• 57:33
  people.
• 57:35
  So,
• 57:35
  like,
• 57:35
  when
• 57:36
  you're
• 57:36
  talking
• 57:36
  about
• 57:37
  starting
• 57:37
  something
• 57:38
  beautiful
• 57:38
  coming
• 57:38
  from
• 57:38
  this,
• 57:39
  something
• 57:39
  we
• 57:40
  can
• 57:40
  grow,
• 57:41
  that
• 57:41
  also
• 57:41
  is
• 57:41
  going
• 57:42
  to
• 57:42
  get
• 57:42
  pushed
• 57:42
  back
• 57:42
  out
• 57:42
  into
• 57:43
  the
• 57:43
  world.
• 57:44
  Positivity
• 57:45
  and
• 57:45
  just
• 57:45
  for
• 57:45
  the
• 57:45
  people
• 57:46
  all
• 57:46
  around
• 57:46
  us.
• 57:48
  So
• 57:48
  I
• 57:48
  just
• 57:48
  kind
• 57:49
  of.
• 57:49
  It's
• 57:49
  just
• 57:49
  a
• 57:50
  little
• 57:50
  thing
• 57:50
  that
• 57:50
  came
• 57:50
  to
• 57:51
  my
• 57:51
  mind
• 57:51
  and
• 57:51
  I
• 57:51
  was
• 57:51
  like,
• 57:51
  yeah,
• 57:53
  good.
• 57:53
  Sorry.
• 57:54
  My
• 57:54
  daughter
• 57:54
  keeps
• 57:54
  calling
• 57:54
  me
• 57:54
  back
• 57:55
  to
• 57:55
  back.
• 57:57
  Okay.
• 57:59
  Yeah.
• 57:59
  Hopefully
• 57:59
  everything
• 58:00
  is
• 58:00
  okay.
• 58:01
  That's
• 58:01
  code
• 58:02
  for
• 58:02
  emergency.
• 58:02
  Like,
• 58:03
  if
• 58:03
  you're
• 58:03
  doing
• 58:03
  that
• 58:03
  to
• 58:03
  ask
• 58:04
  me
• 58:04
  if
• 58:04
  you
• 58:04
  can
• 58:04
  go
• 58:04
  eat
• 58:04
  with
• 58:04
  your
• 58:04
  friends
• 58:05
  after
• 58:05
  school.
• 58:05
  School,
• 58:06
  like,
• 58:06
  there's
• 58:06
  a
• 58:06
  problem.
• 58:07
  I
• 58:08
  said,
• 58:08
  are
• 58:08
  you
• 58:08
  okay?
• 58:09
  And
• 58:09
  she
• 58:09
  goes,
• 58:09
  yeah,
• 58:10
  stop
• 58:11
  calling
• 58:11
  me
• 58:11
  then.
• 58:11
  That's
• 58:12
  scary.
• 58:14
  God.
• 58:14
  Oh,
• 58:15
  children.
• 58:15
  Yeah,
• 58:16
  but.
• 58:16
  But
• 58:17
  back
• 58:17
  to
• 58:17
  your
• 58:17
  point.
• 58:18
  Yeah,
• 58:18
  I
• 58:18
  mean,
• 58:18
  like,
• 58:19
  even
• 58:19
  if
• 58:19
  your
• 58:19
  big
• 58:20
  impact
• 58:20
  on
• 58:20
  the
• 58:20
  world
• 58:21
  is
• 58:21
  it,
• 58:22
  you're
• 58:23
  just
• 58:23
  an
• 58:23
  example
• 58:23
  of
• 58:24
  what's
• 58:24
  possible
• 58:24
  to
• 58:24
  somebody
• 58:25
  else.
• 58:26
  That's
• 58:26
  enough.
• 58:27
  That's
• 58:28
  beautiful.
• 58:29
  Yeah.
• 58:30
  And
• 58:30
  with
• 58:31
  that
• 58:31
  being
• 58:31
  said,
• 58:32
  Jo
• 58:32
  Beth
• 58:33
  is
• 58:33
  with
• 58:33
  us
• 58:33
  today
• 58:34
  to
• 58:35
  explain.
• 58:35
  Explain
• 58:35
  what
• 58:36
  is
• 58:36
  possible
• 58:36
  and
• 58:38
  to
• 58:38
  have
• 58:39
  this
• 58:39
  open
• 58:39
  conversation
• 58:40
  and
• 58:40
  to
• 58:41
  make
• 58:41
  known
• 58:41
  that
• 58:42
  she
• 58:42
  does
• 58:42
  have
• 58:42
  a
• 58:43
  course
• 58:43
  that
• 58:44
  can
• 58:44
  help
• 58:44
  you
• 58:45
  and
• 58:45
  will
• 58:45
  help
• 58:45
  you
• 58:46
  in
• 58:46
  whatever
• 58:46
  pattern
• 58:47
  of
• 58:47
  grief
• 58:48
  or
• 58:48
  whatever
• 58:48
  Type
• 58:49
  of
• 58:49
  grief
• 58:49
  that
• 58:49
  you're
• 58:49
  in.
• 58:51
  We
• 58:51
  did
• 58:51
  talk
• 58:51
  about
• 58:52
  that.
• 58:52
  You
• 58:53
  have
• 58:53
  clients
• 58:54
  that
• 58:54
  are
• 58:54
  grieving.
• 58:55
  You
• 58:56
  know,
• 58:56
  again,
• 58:56
  we
• 58:56
  just
• 58:56
  keep
• 58:57
  saying
• 58:57
  the
• 58:57
  same
• 58:57
  things,
• 58:57
  but
• 58:58
  lost
• 58:58
  limbs,
• 58:59
  divorce,
• 59:00
  death,
• 59:00
  like,
• 59:01
  there's
• 59:01
  all
• 59:01
  different
• 59:01
  types
• 59:02
  of
• 59:02
  grief.
• 59:02
  And
• 59:03
  that's
• 59:03
  what
• 59:04
  you're
• 59:04
  here
• 59:04
  for.
• 59:05
  Yeah,
• 59:05
  for
• 59:05
  sure.
• 59:06
  Like,
• 59:06
  I
• 59:06
  just
• 59:06
  want
• 59:06
  everybody
• 59:07
  to
• 59:07
  know,
• 59:07
  like,
• 59:07
  there's
• 59:07
  an
• 59:07
  option.
• 59:08
  Like,
• 59:08
  it.
• 59:09
  I
• 59:09
  mean,
• 59:10
  you
• 59:10
  can
• 59:10
  come
• 59:10
  hang
• 59:11
  out
• 59:11
  with
• 59:11
  me
• 59:12
  or
• 59:12
  not.
• 59:12
  I
• 59:13
  mean,
• 59:13
  I'm
• 59:13
  the
• 59:13
  better
• 59:13
  option.
• 59:15
  I
• 59:15
  love
• 59:16
  it.
• 59:17
  I
• 59:17
  think
• 59:17
  we
• 59:17
  should
• 59:18
  end
• 59:18
  with
• 59:18
  that.
• 59:18
  I
• 59:18
  love
• 59:19
  that.
• 59:19
  That
• 59:20
  sounds
• 59:20
  so
• 59:20
  conceited.
• 59:21
  But
• 59:23
  I'm
• 59:23
  confident.
• 59:25
  That's
• 59:25
  the
• 59:25
  thing.
• 59:26
  Like,
• 59:26
  why
• 59:26
  are
• 59:27
  we
• 59:27
  so
• 59:27
  scared
• 59:27
  of,
• 59:28
  like,
• 59:28
  being
• 59:28
  confident?
• 59:30
  We.
• 59:30
  Yeah,
• 59:31
  no,
• 59:31
  we
• 59:31
  want
• 59:31
  everyone
• 59:32
  to
• 59:32
  feel
• 59:32
  better
• 59:32
  about
• 59:32
  themselves.
• 59:33
  And
• 59:33
  I
• 59:33
  love
• 59:34
  that
• 59:34
  you
• 59:34
  were,
• 59:34
  like,
• 59:34
  just
• 59:34
  an
• 59:35
  example
• 59:35
  of
• 59:35
  that
• 59:35
  just
• 59:35
  now.
• 59:36
  You're
• 59:36
  right.
• 59:36
  It's
• 59:36
  the
• 59:36
  better
• 59:37
  option.
• 59:37
  Get
• 59:38
  out
• 59:38
  there.
• 59:38
  Yeah.
• 59:39
  Go
• 59:39
  meet
• 59:39
  with
• 59:39
  Jo
• 59:40
  Beth.
• 59:40
  Come
• 59:40
  meet
• 59:41
  with
• 59:41
  me.
• 59:41
  And
• 59:41
  it's,
• 59:42
  you
• 59:42
  know,
• 59:42
  it's
• 59:42
  just.
• 59:43
  Man,
• 59:43
  it
• 59:43
  just
• 59:43
  feels
• 59:44
  so
• 59:44
  good
• 59:44
  to
• 59:44
  know
• 59:44
  that
• 59:45
  you're
• 59:45
  not
• 59:45
  doing
• 59:45
  it
• 59:45
  alone.
• 59:46
  And
• 59:47
  you
• 59:47
  invest
• 59:48
  in
• 59:48
  yourself.
• 59:49
  You're
• 59:49
  worth
• 59:49
  it.
• 59:51
  What
• 59:51
  do
• 59:51
  you
• 59:51
  know?
• 59:52
  You're
• 59:52
  so
• 59:52
  young.
• 59:53
  I'm
• 59:53
  just
• 59:53
  a
• 59:54
  child.
• 59:56
  Shout
• 59:56
  out
• 59:56
  to
• 59:56
  Botox.
• 59:57
  Yeah.
• 59:57
  Been
• 59:58
  through
• 59:58
  a
• 59:58
  lot.
• 59:59
  Oh,
• 1:00:00
  all
• 1:00:00
  right,
• 1:00:00
  well,
• 1:00:00
  just
• 1:00:01
  to
• 1:00:01
  recap.
• 1:00:01
  App,
• 1:00:01
  your
• 1:00:02
  business
• 1:00:02
  is
• 1:00:02
  called
• 1:00:03
  NWA
• 1:00:04
  Grief
• 1:00:04
  Specialist.
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  And
• 1:00:05
  you
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  can
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  find
• 1:00:06
  me
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  on
• 1:00:07
  any
• 1:00:07
  of
• 1:00:07
  social
• 1:00:08
  medias
• 1:00:08
  there
• 1:00:09
  and
• 1:00:09
  Jo
• 1:00:09
  Beth
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  Evans
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  on
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  Facebook.
• 1:00:11
  And
• 1:00:11
  then
• 1:00:12
  you
• 1:00:12
  guys,
• 1:00:12
  I
• 1:00:12
  think,
• 1:00:12
  are
• 1:00:12
  gonna
• 1:00:12
  link
• 1:00:13
  to
• 1:00:13
  the
• 1:00:13
  application.
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  So
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  if
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  somebody
• 1:00:15
  does
• 1:00:15
  wanna
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  work
• 1:00:15
  with
• 1:00:16
  me,
• 1:00:16
  it
• 1:00:16
  is
• 1:00:16
  an
• 1:00:16
  application
• 1:00:17
  process
• 1:00:17
  because
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  I'm
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  very
• 1:00:20
  selective
• 1:00:20
  of
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  who
• 1:00:21
  I
• 1:00:21
  work
• 1:00:21
  with.
• 1:00:22
  So
• 1:00:22
  if
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  you.
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  Yeah,
• 1:00:24
  I
• 1:00:24
  don't
• 1:00:24
  like.
• 1:00:25
  Because
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  you
• 1:00:26
  work
• 1:00:26
  together.
• 1:00:26
  Right.
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  So
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  if
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  I
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  bring
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  somebody
• 1:00:28
  in
• 1:00:28
  that's
• 1:00:28
  like
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  a
• 1:00:29
  total,
• 1:00:29
  like,
• 1:00:30
  not
• 1:00:30
  really
• 1:00:30
  committed,
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  not
• 1:00:31
  really
• 1:00:31
  in
• 1:00:31
  it,
• 1:00:32
  like,
• 1:00:32
  you're
• 1:00:32
  going
• 1:00:32
  to
• 1:00:32
  bring
• 1:00:32
  the
• 1:00:32
  group
• 1:00:33
  down.
• 1:00:33
  And
• 1:00:33
  so,
• 1:00:34
  like,
• 1:00:34
  I'm
• 1:00:34
  looking
• 1:00:34
  for
• 1:00:34
  women
• 1:00:35
  who
• 1:00:35
  are
• 1:00:35
  heavy
• 1:00:35
  hitters,
• 1:00:36
  ready
• 1:00:36
  to
• 1:00:36
  kick
• 1:00:36
  some
• 1:00:36
  doors
• 1:00:37
  down.
• 1:00:37
  And
• 1:00:37
  so
• 1:00:38
  if
• 1:00:38
  you
• 1:00:38
  want
• 1:00:38
  to
• 1:00:39
  be
• 1:00:39
  in,
• 1:00:39
  like,
• 1:00:40
  apply.
• 1:00:40
  And
• 1:00:41
  that
• 1:00:41
  opens
• 1:00:41
  this
• 1:00:42
  week.
• 1:00:42
  And,
• 1:00:42
  you
• 1:00:42
  know,
• 1:00:43
  no
• 1:00:43
  matter
• 1:00:43
  when
• 1:00:43
  you're
• 1:00:44
  listening,
• 1:00:44
  you
• 1:00:44
  can
• 1:00:44
  contact
• 1:00:44
  me
• 1:00:44
  on
• 1:00:45
  social.
• 1:00:45
  The
• 1:00:45
  application
• 1:00:46
  open
• 1:00:46
  and
• 1:00:46
  closes
• 1:00:47
  every
• 1:00:47
  month
• 1:00:47
  or
• 1:00:47
  two
• 1:00:47
  months.
• 1:00:49
  Okay.
• 1:00:49
  Yeah.
• 1:00:50
  So
• 1:00:50
  we'll
• 1:00:50
  have
• 1:00:50
  that
• 1:00:50
  listed.
• 1:00:51
  And
• 1:00:52
  just
• 1:00:52
  know
• 1:00:53
  that
• 1:00:53
  we
• 1:00:53
  all
• 1:00:54
  have
• 1:00:54
  support.
• 1:00:55
  Yeah.
• 1:00:55
  Yep.
• 1:00:56
  Thank
• 1:00:56
  you
• 1:00:56
  so
• 1:00:57
  much.
• 1:00:57
  Yep.
• 1:00:57
  Thank
• 1:00:57
  you,
• 1:00:58
  guys.
• 1:01:03
  Did
• 1:01:03
  you
• 1:01:03
  like
• 1:01:03
  the
• 1:01:03
  episode
• 1:01:04
  that
• 1:01:04
  you
• 1:01:04
  heard
• 1:01:04
  today?
• 1:01:05
  Great.
• 1:01:06
  Share
• 1:01:06
  it
• 1:01:06
  with
• 1:01:07
  a
• 1:01:07
  friend.
• 1:01:07
  And
• 1:01:07
  don't
• 1:01:08
  forget
• 1:01:08
  to
• 1:01:08
  rate
• 1:01:09
  and
• 1:01:09
  review.