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One Piece, 652-654 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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  Speaker 1: This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me,
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  Speaker 1: covering one piece episodes six fifty two through six fifty four.
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  Speaker 1: The last and bloodiest Block Block D Battle begins, a
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  Speaker 1: decisive battle Giola versus the Straw Hats and beautiful sword
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  Speaker 1: Cavendish of the White Horse. In this episode, well, these
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  Speaker 1: three episodes, we have the straw Hats continuing to fight
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  Speaker 1: on the sunny and things turning into art and then
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  Speaker 1: back out of art, and then turning back into art,
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  Speaker 1: and then they stop being art. And it's just a
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  Speaker 1: lot of back and forth. That's kind of what we've
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  Speaker 1: got going on in these episodes in general, is a
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  Speaker 1: lot of back and forth. Welcome to spoil Me, Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to the show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you very
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  Speaker 1: much to Florian for commissioning these episodes, and uh, welcome
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  Speaker 1: to everybody. It's my first day doing my new schedule
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  Speaker 1: where I start at two thirty instead of my old
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  Speaker 1: time at four pm, and it's gonna take some getting
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  Speaker 1: used to for sure. So we're all in this together, kids.
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  Speaker 1: I think it'll ultimately be a good thing for me,
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  Speaker 1: but definitely is like it feels strange to be starting
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  Speaker 1: at this time of day. So yeah, these episodes, like overall,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like not a lot happens, to be honest.
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  Speaker 1: In these three we get a couple of reveals, but
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  Speaker 1: they're fairly minor. The biggest one is do Flamingo's history.
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  Speaker 1: We find out that originally he was also a noble,
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  Speaker 1: so he's like essentially one of the big head one
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  Speaker 1: percent hanchos, and I feel like that makes a lot
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  Speaker 1: of sense, the fact that he actually is part of
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  Speaker 1: their inner circle, really even though he like when I
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  Speaker 1: say inner circle, it makes it sound like socially he is,
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  Speaker 1: and clearly he has stepped away from that world socially,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't it doesn't feel accurate to say that,
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  Speaker 1: but that is his origin originally, And as we don't
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  Speaker 1: really have a lot of info on like how current
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  Speaker 1: his contact with them is and the way that they
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  Speaker 1: see him, it's kind of hard to say because I
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  Speaker 1: feel like he could be he could be a complete
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  Speaker 1: rebel who's doing his utterly owned thing and that the
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  Speaker 1: other people who are like of his family do not
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  Speaker 1: see him as one of them at all, Or it
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  Speaker 1: could be that he has positioned himself to be part
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  Speaker 1: of both worlds for the advantage, you know, And I
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  Speaker 1: feel like, based on the way that he is operating
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  Speaker 1: right now, it seems like he is very much on
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  Speaker 1: their side, really, and I'm assuming that the government knows this.
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  Speaker 1: That's the only thing that can be difficult is what
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  Speaker 1: everybody else is aware of. But I feel like the
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  Speaker 1: Nobles seem to be They seem to be tied in
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  Speaker 1: enough with the World Government's structure, and like they have
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  Speaker 1: been for long enough that it's possible they do know.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, even if they didn't, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how much it would matter, because it pretty much seems
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  Speaker 1: like the World Government is in such a position that
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  Speaker 1: it is like being run by these guys and there
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't be any repercussions or pulling out of it anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Like they're just part and parcel of the same group
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  Speaker 1: of people. Right at this point, Is there really that
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  Speaker 1: much difference between the World Government and the Nobles? I
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  Speaker 1: feel like the kind of in my mind, I sort
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  Speaker 1: of use them and these titles a little bit. I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't say interchangeably, but like when I imagine the position
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  Speaker 1: in the hierarchy, I think of the nobles as being
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  Speaker 1: above the government, and therefore the government is like their
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  Speaker 1: tool entirely, and I don't think that's wholly inaccurate. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like that's what the show has been telling us.
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  Speaker 1: So all right, let's back up and begin at the
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  Speaker 1: start of six point fifty two, we have Rebecca walking
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  Speaker 1: out into the arena, and it's an interesting illustrative style
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  Speaker 1: because the way that it's animated is like she is
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  Speaker 1: walking out alone under a spotlight onto a stage. It's
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  Speaker 1: that kind of vibe, and like she is struggling to
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  Speaker 1: contain her emotional response to the way people are yelling
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  Speaker 1: at her, and the people yelling are animated in really
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  Speaker 1: stark black and red, which I don't know if this
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  Speaker 1: is just like solely meant to illustrate the fact that
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  Speaker 1: these people are angry and hateful, But I will tell
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  Speaker 1: you guys that I sort of initially interpreted this color
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  Speaker 1: scheme and how intensely this is drawn as an almost
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  Speaker 1: representation of like a spell or something. And I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to think how exactly to say this, because what I
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  Speaker 1: mean is that I have been very suspicious of everybody's memories,
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  Speaker 1: right with this whole storyline relying so much on various
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  Speaker 1: things seemingly being completely forgotten by people. It really has
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  Speaker 1: seemed like memory is playing a massive role in what's
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  Speaker 1: going on and how people are interpreting. So I think
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  Speaker 1: that I am like my mind immediately sort of put
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  Speaker 1: that together with this animation and the ferocity of the
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  Speaker 1: vitriol coming from everybody, and I inadvertently like decided these
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  Speaker 1: people aren't in control of themselves. They are being sort
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  Speaker 1: of whipped up by some external force to be this
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  Speaker 1: angry with her because somebody is like messing with their memories.
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  Speaker 1: And I really I don't like to be perfectly real
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  Speaker 1: with you guys. I feel like that makes some sense,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't have any evidence for this. It just
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  Speaker 1: seems like the people's minds are being messed with on
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  Speaker 1: this island. And it's also I may be just a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more sensitive to this right now, because like
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: I am in the midst of a reread of the
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  Speaker 1: Dresden Files, and there is a lot in the Dresden
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  Speaker 1: Files about mind magic and the being able to erase
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  Speaker 1: a memory of something or influence somebody's actions by sort
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  Speaker 1: of meaning into a tendency they already have, where it's
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  Speaker 1: basically the idea is if you make somebody act totally
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  Speaker 1: out of character. Not only will other people notice something
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  Speaker 1: weird is going on, but the person themselves will mentally
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  Speaker 1: struggle against this influence because they can tell that this
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  Speaker 1: is out of character for themselves and that this is
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  Speaker 1: not what they want to do, and that can cause
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  Speaker 1: their minds to break. And if you're trying to infiltrate something,
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  Speaker 1: their minds being broken is not conducive to you continuing
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  Speaker 1: to influence people. So what you have to do is
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  Speaker 1: find a sort of like middle ground of influencing them
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  Speaker 1: but making sure that they don't do anything so dramatically
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  Speaker 1: out of character that even they themselves aren't aware they
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  Speaker 1: are being influenced. So if somebody is really judgmental, you
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  Speaker 1: make them just a little bit more so. If somebody
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  Speaker 1: is the type to really want to avoid confrontation and
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  Speaker 1: keep the piece, you have them turn aside from things
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more readily even than they normally would.
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  Speaker 1: And it's obviously in that series the way that magic
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  Speaker 1: works is like completely different from one piece in the
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  Speaker 1: intricacy of it, and like the psychological repercussions of things. However,
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  Speaker 1: it is more and more like relevant to the story
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  Speaker 1: as time goes on. That mind magic is being used
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  Speaker 1: on and by people or by other beings as well,
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  Speaker 1: and that it's like it's a big no no that
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  Speaker 1: in that universe because of the kinds of damage that
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  Speaker 1: you can do. And I think that is just sort
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  Speaker 1: of like in my head now that this is a possibility.
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  Speaker 1: The mind magic is already kind of coming to the
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  Speaker 1: fore with what's going on with Viola and Soanji and
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  Speaker 1: finding out that she can read people's memories. So that's
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  Speaker 1: like probably the start of me going down this path
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  Speaker 1: and thinking this, and then, as I said, the whole
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  Speaker 1: thing with people forgetting about this really impressive gladiator and
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  Speaker 1: also apparently not remembering their loved ones who got turned
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  Speaker 1: into toy. When those people turn back up again, it's
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  Speaker 1: like they don't recognize them. So I feel like the
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  Speaker 1: way that everybody hates her is part of the plan
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  Speaker 1: to take to keep control on this island, because like
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  Speaker 1: what I got the sense of from the small scene
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  Speaker 1: where we see Do Flamingo after the conquest telling everybody
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  Speaker 1: like they stole from you, they did this, and that
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  Speaker 1: it felt like he was planting ideas in people's heads.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think necessarily that Do Flamingo is the
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  Speaker 1: one with this power. It's possible, but it's not necessarily him.
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  Speaker 1: But I could see that like wanting to keep people's
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  Speaker 1: against her fresh as a means of making sure that
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  Speaker 1: they don't like begin to remember how good to them
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  Speaker 1: the other nobles used to be. And this is again,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even necessarily believe that, like the people who
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  Speaker 1: had been in power before Do Flamingo and his people
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  Speaker 1: came along were better necessarily than Do Flamingo. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: more that, like I'm sort of operating under this assumption
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  Speaker 1: of if he came in, he would have to make
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  Speaker 1: them sound way worse than they were. And I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't like maybe he has planted some lies,
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  Speaker 1: but the people that were ruling initially were kind of
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  Speaker 1: terrible actually anyway, and it didn't take that much of
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  Speaker 1: a push and prod or for all I know, this
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  Speaker 1: whole thing is completely coming from a real place, And
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  Speaker 1: everybody who is angry her they have not had their
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  Speaker 1: heads messed with her. Grandfather was this terrible, and she
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  Speaker 1: is like dealing with the fallout from his legacy. You know,
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  Speaker 1: My tendency to run away with this being all a
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  Speaker 1: big story is very linked with the other evidence of
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  Speaker 1: people's heads being messed with. But I truly know nothing
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  Speaker 1: about her family. The only information that I have is
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  Speaker 1: about her mother and her relationship and the fact that
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  Speaker 1: her mother apparently ran away from home, and I'm not
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  Speaker 1: even sure if that's what was going on, but the
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  Speaker 1: way that they were living away from everything, and they
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  Speaker 1: were obviously like giving up on a life of luxury
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  Speaker 1: in this little cabin with no servants, living with like
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  Speaker 1: it seems as little as possible. And I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: how much of a connection they had to anybody around
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  Speaker 1: them or their family, Like maybe her mother decided to
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  Speaker 1: go off and live like this, but actually was still
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  Speaker 1: in touch with her family and they were aware, like
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  Speaker 1: they did have a guard that I feel like was
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  Speaker 1: covering their back when they ran away. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if this guy like left with them was assigned
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  Speaker 1: to them by her family. There's just too many like
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  Speaker 1: factors still floating in the air that I'm uncertain about,
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  Speaker 1: and all of them just would have a huge influence
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  Speaker 1: on what I think is going on with these people here.
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  Speaker 1: But all this to say, these people are yelling at
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  Speaker 1: her in some of the most over the top terms.
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean this in a way that's like criticizing
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  Speaker 1: the writing. Just to be clear, this is like if
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  Speaker 1: a comment section came to life. You know, they're yelling
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  Speaker 1: about how they hope that she dies and that it's painful,
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  Speaker 1: I hope they burn your house down, whatever, like all
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  Speaker 1: of these things that are just really really intense. And Rebecca,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I complained about her last episode and the like,
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  Speaker 1: not even her character exactly, but the way that it's
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  Speaker 1: just frustrating how women are written so far. And I
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  Speaker 1: will say, on the one hand, we do have one
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  Speaker 1: other female warrior who is a gladiator, who is a
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  Speaker 1: woman who she's basically built like a refrigerator and clearly
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  Speaker 1: very very tough. So while I was lamenting the fact
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  Speaker 1: that Rebecca is the only woman, she's not quite there's
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  Speaker 1: one other. Granted it's about I think by this point
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  Speaker 1: in this arc, we have met at least forty other
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  Speaker 1: contenders in this contest, so two out of forty is
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  Speaker 1: still really nothing like I pretty much stand by my criticism,
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  Speaker 1: but I wanted to acknowledge that a woman appeared. However,
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  Speaker 1: as much as that's a good thing that I can say,
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  Speaker 1: gave me a little bit of a smile. The thing
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  Speaker 1: that was kind of rode that over was how Rebecca's
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  Speaker 1: reaction to the crowd hating her let me down because
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  Speaker 1: Rebecca is like supposed to be a seasoned fighter at
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  Speaker 1: this point, right, like that she has done this sort
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  Speaker 1: of thing before. Am I wrong about this that she
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  Speaker 1: has never has she been out there? Because there had
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  Speaker 1: been a couple of like when she was telling the
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  Speaker 1: story to Lufy and stuff, there were times where I
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  Speaker 1: was unclear about the recent history of her, and so
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  Speaker 1: it may be that she hasn't actually been in front
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  Speaker 1: of a crowd, And if she hasn't, then again that
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  Speaker 1: changes things. But I was just really disappointed to see
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  Speaker 1: how everybody screaming at her was really really getting to her,
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  Speaker 1: Like very clearly she is so upset by how people
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  Speaker 1: are speaking and how mean they are being. And while
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  Speaker 1: I can sympathize with that as a regular person who
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  Speaker 1: I haven't been the target of this kind of like
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  Speaker 1: mass vitriol, and I have no doubt that it would
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  Speaker 1: be really difficult to bear. I really hoped that she
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  Speaker 1: would be a little bit tougher than this, and even
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  Speaker 1: her being like sad and crying about it would be
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  Speaker 1: less frustrating than the fact that Cavendish has to swoop
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  Speaker 1: in and yell at everybody to be nice to her.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like, kind of I have very mixed feelings
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  Speaker 1: on this, because part of me like the fact that
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  Speaker 1: he is riding to her rescue, like literally white nighting her,
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  Speaker 1: riding in on this horse. There's a part of me
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  Speaker 1: that is very eye rolling about this. However, the story
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  Speaker 1: beat where everybody seems to like him as a result
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  Speaker 1: of him standing up for her in this way is
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  Speaker 1: very funny because he's trying to make this point and
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  Speaker 1: nobody wants to hear it, so he has to yell
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  Speaker 1: at them more than once. And then even when they
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  Speaker 1: start to cheer for him, one of the other men
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  Speaker 1: who's fighting is like they see cavendish face kind of
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  Speaker 1: drop and him look a little what's the word I want,
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  Speaker 1: like nonplused for a moment, and their assumption is that
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  Speaker 1: he is reacting to this negatively because he feels like
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  Speaker 1: all they're doing is like falling all over me. But
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  Speaker 1: they didn't actually absorb the point that I was trying
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  Speaker 1: to make right And the thing is that this guy
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  Speaker 1: totally misunderstands what's important to Cavendish, So he like Cavenish,
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  Speaker 1: turns around and is like, oh my god, they love me.
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  Speaker 1: This is amazing, and is so happy and this dude
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  Speaker 1: is like, wait, that's how you feel about this? Are
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: you serious? And I knew immediately once people started cheering,
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  Speaker 1: of course he is going to be so excited, like
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  Speaker 1: this was actually a really good beat that he starts
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  Speaker 1: to become like what's the word I want? He's like
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  Speaker 1: being mollified by the way everybody is reacting to him,
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  Speaker 1: and of course can't help but do the whole like
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  Speaker 1: take that loofy kind of thing, you know. So I
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  Speaker 1: regret that this story beat for him comes at the
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  Speaker 1: expense of Rebecca herself getting to be a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more Tough's that's like where the balance is sort of
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  Speaker 1: held up for me. Is I want more for her
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  Speaker 1: as a character, and we don't really get to see
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  Speaker 1: her fight that much. It's like there's some but it
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  Speaker 1: isn't as much of a focus as it is on
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  Speaker 1: the other characters around her. Really, there's just a feeling
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  Speaker 1: for me and I might be alone in this, but
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  Speaker 1: it's like when it turns out that a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: other people have been taken down. It just feels like
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  Speaker 1: she had very little to do with it. It's like
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  Speaker 1: it was sort of circumstantial that she's still standing in there,
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  Speaker 1: not because of the way that it's animated and where
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  Speaker 1: the focus goes and everything. So I just had a
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  Speaker 1: difficult time with this and was feeling like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: come on. You know, but this may have worked for
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: some of you listening, and you may not feel this
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  Speaker 1: way at all. And I will admit that I am
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: so frustrated that I think it's probably going to color
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  Speaker 1: my opinion of things in general. And so my reaction
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  Speaker 1: to this and feeling annoyed and like this didn't really
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: seem like she was given a chance to fight. It
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: may be that it's not like an I'm clearly biased,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll own that. So I just wanted to really
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  Speaker 1: let you guys know that I am aware that my
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  Speaker 1: feelings in this are probably, to a point a little unfair,
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  Speaker 1: but I also feel like the way that this is written,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not even going to apologize for being biased here
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  Speaker 1: because I just think that the evidence has been borne
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  Speaker 1: out by the show itself so much that I can't
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  Speaker 1: be blamed for being biased in this way. You know,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: so like you, guys, I'm looking at this right now,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, her fighting and the way that this
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  Speaker 1: is animated. We have Cavendish like standing up for her,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: sitting on his horse. He sends the horse away. We
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: have him reacting to everybody cheering Rebecca coming up to
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  Speaker 1: him and thanking him and him being like it's cool,
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  Speaker 1: but also we're still rivals. And then we have a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of people engaging in a fight and the gladiator
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  Speaker 1: woman is really pounding some people, but we hear somebody
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  Speaker 1: say like you're dead. Meet Rebecca, and she turns and
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  Speaker 1: gets on guard, but doesn't actually take a strike or
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  Speaker 1: go after anybody, and she just says something like I
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  Speaker 1: won't lose soldier, and then the camera zooms in on
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  Speaker 1: her face, so it's just her basically posing, but as
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: far as her jumping into the fight, we don't actually
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  Speaker 1: see her fighting. And then when the scene ends and
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: we come back to the present and we join the
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: coliseum again, she is still just standing there with her
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  Speaker 1: sword up and there has apparently been no fight since
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  Speaker 1: the like the scene cut, so we have everybody gathering
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  Speaker 1: around her and being like I say, we take her
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  Speaker 1: out next, So there's a bunch of people like circling
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: her and all of them doing their usual like bad
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  Speaker 1: guy monologue about how they will be seen as heroes
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: by the rest of the country if they manage to
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  Speaker 1: take her down, because everybody hates her so much, so
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: they're coming toward her and they're saying this stuff. But yeah, see, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I it is her being a seasoned fighter. So because
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I'm we cut back to Loofy and he is watching
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  Speaker 1: the fight with all of the prisoners and they're saying
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  Speaker 1: everybody hates her, but she's used to it by now,
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  Speaker 1: and then another guy says it's always her against a
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: bunch of big, tough guys. She's usually the only woman too.
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  Speaker 1: So the fact that she gets teary eye and almost
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  Speaker 1: starts crying, it's like, if you're gonna say in the
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  Speaker 1: next scene, she's used to it by now, I don't
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: want her to cry, and I'm not trying to say
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: that she can't be upset, but I feel like she's
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: reacting like she's a little kid being bullied at school
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: and this is a woman who is out here to
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: draw blood, and that with her just being so teary
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: eyed over the people saying mean stuff to her. It's
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: very difficult for me to reconcile those things. And so
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: even when we're watching the fight from Lufy's perspective, it's
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: like more and more zoom in's on Rebecca's face. It's like,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: that's what Lufy himself is seeing. It takes so long
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: for us to get to the fighting. And we've got
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: a bunch of these guys trying to go after her,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: and one of them finally says you can attack to
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: you know, because she's just running away. They're trying to
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: strike at her, and she is continuously dodging, and what
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: she's doing is sort of luring them to the edge
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: so that she can get them to topple over and
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: wind up in the water, which is a really good tactic,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: you know, but they are too stupid to understand that
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: that's what she's doing. And again, you guys, I am
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: totally fine with fighting smart. I enjoy the use of
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: the water in this way because I think a lot
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: of people would be playing it this way. You know.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: This is having this distinct boundary is really helpful. But
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: this is just her lluring people and it's not actual fighting.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: And so again I'm still feeling like I'm supposed to
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: believe that she has this like toughness to her, and
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: it's really hard for me to like buy it. And
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: when we go into the flashback, we see her talking
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: to the toy soldier saying, my mother told me I
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: shouldn't hurt others no matter what, which is supposed to
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: be the like, Oh, okay, so she's fighting, but she's
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: just keeping herself from being her and luring them into
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: the water but not actually engaging. Right, this is the
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: explanation as to how she's managing to like win but
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: not actually injure anybody in response, do you guys have
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: any idea how deeply disappointed I was by this plot choice.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I feel like anybody listening to the last episode who
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: knew knew that this was going to be coming shortly
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: had to be sort of holding their head, going, oh,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: she is gonna hate this, because I already was so
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: frustrated with her characterization, and the one thing that was
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: like getting me through was sort of telling myself, well,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: eventually I'll get to see her be an incredible badass
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and then instead this is what we're getting her training
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: to fight. But as she's doing so insisting that she
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: shouldn't hurt anybody, and the person training her not disagreeing
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: with her at all, and then her actually in the
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: arena refusing to fight back and just defending herself, and
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: that's all. I am so disgusted, you guys. I'm so
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: disgusted and disappointed. Like, I don't want to be so
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: down on this, I really don't. I want you guys
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: to know that I have tried to talk myself out
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: of being as angry about it as I am a
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: couple of times, and it's not working. I am this
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: is so much worse than what I was even expecting.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you right now. If what happens is
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: that Lufy Like does wind up winning the flame Flame Fruit,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: but then he just gives it to Rebecca, I will
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: never get over that. I will never forgive the writers
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: for doing this, and by the writers, I do mean Oda,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: but also I don't know how different things are, you
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. I just want to be upfront
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: with you guys and say this is garbage. This is
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: so pathetic and it's just so insulting when there's like
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: it feels after this whole thing is sort of revealed
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: that they only added the other woman gladiator as a
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: means to be like, well, women can fight sometimes, and
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: to show that as like a foil against Rebecca. But
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: it's always seems to me that the women who are
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: able to be physical fighters are always drawn to be
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: really masculine. You know, there's this this female gladiator. She's,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: like I said, she's built like a refrigerator. She's super tall,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: she's got really wide shoulders and a wide jaw. She's
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: got a much like tougher, more masculine look to her
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: in a way that feels like what we're saying is
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: only women who are like of a certain body type
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: and look can be as tough as men. And if
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: you're too pretty then that doesn't you know what I'm saying.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I'm really opening myself up here and telling you guys
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: that I want to know. Am I just not remembering
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: a really badass fighter that was also super hot that
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: showed up at another point in the show, Because I
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: feel like every hot woman has had a power that
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: made it so that she really didn't have to fight
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: that much. They always had something that they could do
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: that sort of eliminated the need for it. That they
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: could make you super depressed with their ghosts, or like
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Robin with all of her arms that come out and
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: just grab people and hold them down. Like Robin does
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: her power from the outside, way outside the lines of
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: the battle and watches and does things from afar. And
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Nami's got her weather thing where she's not actually physically
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: fighting almost ever, she's invoking these weather changes and stuff.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: And we've had some women who fight, they always tend
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: to have a look like BoA's sisters. For example, when
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Lufy is finding them in that ring, her sisters are
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: both like four times the size of Boa, and it
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: just I don't feel like that's an accident. So I
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: don't know. Oh, Florian's here, Hi Florian, He says, Yeah,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Rebecca got it bad. She deserves better. She was the
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: one I was warning you about. It was not just
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: the outfit. There was so much potential. What makes it
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: worse one hundred percent? That's always if you have listened
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: to my show for a long time, you know, that's
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: the thing that I always get the most upset about.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: It's like I can deal with stuff being bad because
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: it's bad, But when something is bad despite the fact
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: that there is a lot you could have done it's
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: so much worse. I hate getting excited about where something's
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: going and then all of the possibilities that I had
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: envisioned are never realized and it feels like it never
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: even heard to anybody. It's like, if we're gonna at
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: least address them and not do them, that may be frustrating,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: but I'll also feel like at least the people writing
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: this have some understanding. But when it's like we don't
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: go down that road at all and it feels like
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: it didn't even occur to anybody, the insulting aspect of
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: that I can't overlook. So Florian is pointing out Hina
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: and Tashigi kind of both marines. Okay, Tashigi is fair.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Tashigi is fair. She definitely is in fights, and she's like,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: her whole thing is that she's a swordswoman. We do
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: still have to undercut that with her needing her glasses
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: and losing her and that whole thing and whatever, But
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I will give you that one. Heina, I don't really
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: remember her deal as well. We've only seen her like
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: a few brief times, and I liked her right away.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: I feel like I remember kind of being into her
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: as a character. But she has had very little screen time. Really,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Miss Doublefinger Khalifa, I don't remember what she is from Dobblefinger?
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: What is that? That's like ringing a bell very faintly,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: but I'm not remembering who this is. And I know
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: that this wasn't even that long ago, because Khalifa, I remember,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: like how I remembered that name. Khalifa is CP nine, Okay,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I don't remember how how her fighting style went. Florian says,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: but yeah, none one hundred percent fit what you mean,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I would say. And miss DF was partnered with mister one. Oh, okay,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: so even if she was really fighting, it wasn't like
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: she was allowed to do it on her own. She
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: had a dude with her. I don't like, I don't
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: know what this is about. Part of me kind of
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: feels like and this I freely admit as I say
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: this that I might be giving a little bit too
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: much grace here. So this is certainly possible, but I
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: want to at least acknowledge it that there have been
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: sometimes where it's clear that either the person writing something
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: or the people in charge of producing something are all
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: really uncomfortable with a woman getting into a physical fight
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: against men. And they clearly back away from it because
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: they don't want the ugly like aesthetic of a man
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: beating the shit out of a woman. So there's a
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: lot of shying away from that because of the overall
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: implication of it. And I understand the instinct and I
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: don't like disagree with it depending on the the context
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: of it. But if you're setting a woman up to
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: be a gladiator, a literal gladiator who has been out
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: in the ring multiple times, it's really like frustrating, extra
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: frustrating to decide to go this way with it. And
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: it also kind of makes sense in terms of like
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: why the audience seems to hate her so much that
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: it's because not only is she a person related to
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: somebody that did them a great wrong allegedly, but the
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: fact that she is, I guess, not giving them a
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: good show. She's not fighting back and doing things in
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: such a way that like it's fun to watch her,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: when at the very least, no, Instead, it's like we
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: get to just watch her lure these fucking dodo birds
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: into the pit of water over and over again, which
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: is just actually irritating to see this and how they
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: fall for it every time. So yeah, I uh, Florine
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: is saying, Yeah, mostly it's female versus female in one piece.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: That's definitely like been something that I have noticed. And
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: that's what's so like, the the fact that there are
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: so few physical fighters in the women characters. If you
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: have so few, then when you have a female versus
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: female fight, by its very nature, it's going to end
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: up being a lot less physical because neither of them
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: has that kind of power, So when they like go
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: up against each other, they aren't going to attack in
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: that kind of way. So it's like, even when you
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: have female vers this female, the fight is still not
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: satisfying in some ways really because they're going they're so
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: indirect about it that it makes it a little bit
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: less fun to watch. And sometimes indirect ways of fighting
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: can be super entertaining, but when there's this undercurrent to
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: it of misogyny, it's really like I can't get past it,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: you know. So I don't know if eventually there will
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: be a woman and this will be different, but I
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: think I'm sort of giving up on that and sort
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: of accepting at this point that this is just gonna
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: be how it is, and that is a bummer. But
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: you know, like I said, we are six hundred and
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: fifty episodes in, and I don't think that it's unreasonable
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: for me to give up on it by now. I
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people would have given up
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: on it long ago because of the evidence so far.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Are so all this to say that, like the whole
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: thing going on with Rebecca, If you guys thought that
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I didn't give a shit about the Colisseum fights before,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: just guess how little I give a shit currently, Because
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: it is I'm surprised they found a way for me
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: to care less. But they did, they really did. And
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: that's just like this, this Colosseum fight and tournament should
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: be so gripping, you know, it's it's Ace's flame, flame Fruit.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: It's an insult to Loofy and to Ace's memory. It's
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: a trap for Lufy. It's the opportunity for us to
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: see some really cool powers and the creative ways that
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: you can implement them, and instead we're just getting one
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: roster after another of like fifteen people whose names I
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: will not remember, whose powers are sometimes a little interesting,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: but you don't get to see them utilized very often
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: or for very long. And it just feels like again
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: with the potential. There was so much here that we
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: could have done. It didn't have to be like this.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: So I'm just disappointed. I'm just deeply disappointed. So let's
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: go back over to the conversation between Do Flamingo and
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: law as Do Flamingo's like sharing his surprise info. Eight
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: hundred years ago, twenty kings from twenty countries met at
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: the center of the world. They formed an alliance and
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: became a single organization. Today we know it as the
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: World Government, and the kings who created the governing body
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: decided to move to the holy land of Marie Jois
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: and live there with their family. There was only one,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: the Nefertari family of Alabasta, that refused to reside in
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: the capital. And I don't know if we were aware
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: that the Alabasta family was like part of the Celestial
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Dragons like history, but that's interesting. The descendants of those
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: nineteen creators, still dwelling in the city, control nearly the
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: entire world and go by the title of Celestial Dragons. However,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: we can't forget this agreement eight hundred years ago also
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: caused nineteen kingdoms to lose their royal families. Are you
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: following along? Out of necessity, the countries needed to select
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: new kings to govern and replace the missing rulers. For instance,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: in the case of mine my native dress Rosa, the
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Ricu family was selected to govern over the island, and
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: the old royalty royalty who chose to move to the
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Holy Land all those years ago, the don Quixote family.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: And this is when law is like, ah, the whole time,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: you were one of them, and do Flamingo his fucking
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: like cackle here goes on for such a long time.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: And so the fact that do Flamingo is okay, Florian
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: is in the chat and says, okay, I just need
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: to say this at this point, you are right, but
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: there will be better and even great times in the future. Promise.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and I believe you, and I trust
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: your judgment. So I'm not like when I say I'm
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: giving up, I just mean that I am going to
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: let the storyline when they include like women, wash over
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: me a little bit more and stop trying to like
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: project my my predictions on where it could go, because
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's just kind of setting myself up
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: for disappointment. So I'm not like giving up on the
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: show or anything. I'm not trying to say I'm quitting
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: one piece, but I'm just saying that, like, I don't
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: want to spend my time theorizing about storylines that end
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: up being more fun than what we actually get because
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: it just depresses me, you know. So I'm just giving
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: up on that part of the way that I cover stuff.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: So all right, let's steal. Let's steal with this art
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: art fruit lady. What is her name? Again? I keep
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: forgetting it. She has like even more dramatically chained the
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: ship and the ocean and the straw hats. It's such
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: a weird like the animation has the ship sort of
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: rolling along on this cloud that's moving a little bit
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: like water but not really. And then like around that
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: is a rainbow that is tied in a bow kind
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: of around the ship, but like huge, not tied tightly
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: around it, but like there's a rainbow making an archway
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: over it. And then there's a sort of like bow
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: in the front made of rainbow, and the rainbow also
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: has musical notes on it. And so this is the
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: first hint that we get about the fact that Brooke
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: has apparently thrown in with this crazy woman, and you know,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: I had no doubt, not for a moment, that Brooke
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: was going to turn around and stab her in the back.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Of course, that's what he's doing. And it's funny to
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: me that they all are just like Brooke, why are
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: you saying this stuff? Why are you acting like this?
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: I'm like, guys, come on, Clearly, bro is like just
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: preparing to strike at any moment. Just give him a second,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: It's okay. And the further changes that have been made
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: to like Gnammy and Chopper, they are made even more
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: angular than they were. Oh and the little samurai kid
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: whose name I also don't remember, but they look even
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: weirder than they did before. And as the scene goes on,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: it's like they are being flattened into two dimensions, kind
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: of like they are basically on the verge of death
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: because they can't breathe at a certain point. And it
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: is really like freaky to consider that this wasn't the
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: way that like this character played it initially, is what
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. She initially plays as like, Oh, I just
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: made you look crazy, and by doing that, I have
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: changed up some things so that you're like, your weapons
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: don't work the same way, like certain things are no
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: longer functioning, but it never seemed like she was affecting
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: living beings the same way, and so seeing the fact
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: that they all begin to reach a point where they
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: can't breathe, I was like, oh, okay, so she's doing
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: even more to them than I was understanding. And Brooke
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: throughout all of this, he is fully pretending to be
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: on board with their enemy and saying the fact that
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: he is like reawakened his artistic side and that creation
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: is his only reason for living is the way he
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: says this at one point, So he is definitely like
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: playing up the fact that he is a musician and
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: that she and he are in this together. And it's
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: so funny because I like the fact that she believes this,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: But to be honest, I feel like, and this is
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: just a complete shot in the dark, But I feel
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: like it's easier to believe if you are a bad
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: guy that the skeleton will betray his own crew because
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: the skeleton isn't fully alive and seems like an outlier
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: in general, and there's just a sense of like, maybe
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: he just doesn't have the same like moral obligations or
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: ideas that people who are fully alive do. You know,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: like I could see just assuming that the way that
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Brooke moves through the world is a little bit different,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: and that yeah, he got overcome by her because his
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: artistic side just totally overtook him. And I feel like I,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: as much as her like believing him is a little
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: bit silly. There's a part of me that kind of
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: gets why she would, because there's almost something to Brooks,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: like vibe and personality that can sometimes feel like he
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: is just a muse, you know, like he's some other
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: worldly creature that has music as a part of what
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: drives him to such a deep extent, and considering like
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: the powers that he has developed in connection with his music,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: that's not even that far off. Like I the fruit
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: that he ate is supposed to solely be responsible for
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: him still being alive despite being a skeleton, but the
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: the powers that he has displayed are a lot more
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: intense than It's sort of a difficult thing that I've
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: run into before, and I'm just sort of rolling with
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: and so I'm not trying to bring this up to
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: be pedantic or anything. But for example, Sanji hasn't ever
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: eaten a devil fruit, and yet he has developed abilities
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: that now let him literally like fly or his leg
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: bursts into flames when he kicks somebody in anger, you know, like,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: and this is not due to him having a power
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: through consuming a fruit. It is that he has like
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: developed skills with so much hard work that they have
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: now reached a supernatural level. And that's essentially also what's
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: going on with Zoro. Zoro has just become an incredibly
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: bonkers level swordsman, but not through any real supernatural means,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: so that seems to be Also what Brooke has done
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: is that he is using his music to like do magic,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: and that he has gotten so good at his music
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: that he's able to pull that off. And it's not
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: really this is not that much of a surprise to
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: anybody that he is able to do this, and by anybody,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I mean like other members of his crew. Obviously he
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: definitely gets to drop on people in fights because they
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: are not aware that he can do this. But it's
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: just the nature of how powers work in this universe
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: is kind of fluid, because I will often think to
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: myself that you don't need a superpower, or that you
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: that you need a devil fruit to do a superpower.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: But like I've been shown over and over again that
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: that's not true, and like the CP nine guys were
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: able to do shave and all of these other like
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: weird techniques and moves that were beyond what mortals should
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: be able to pull off, and they weren't given devil
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: fruits to eat until much later on in the story.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: So it's just sort of interesting to me the way
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: that that can develop. And I really hold that as
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: a separate thing from like what's going on with Oosap
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: and Nami, because the two of them don't really have
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: powers of any kind that are inherent to their body.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: They have to have props in order to be able
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: to do anything. And it may be that I am
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: not correct and I just haven't seen it yet. It
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: may be that that will eventually change and they'll be
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: able to do things without having props, but they this
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: is part of why I think of them as being
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: like the most vulnerable of anybody, even more so than Chopper,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: who at least can transform into a giant, burly version
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: of himself. But the transformations for Chopper, I guess are
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: from rumble balls, right, So like, maybe this is unfair
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: because he is only able to do it with props.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: As well. I actually don't remember if it's if he
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: can only transform using rumble balls or if he has
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: learned how to do it without them. By now I
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: can't recall anyway. Okay, So, like I said, eventually Brook
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: stabs her in the back. The ship seems to sort
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: of like all of it seems to right itself for
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: a little while, and they are there's a feeling at
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: first of the like Okay, we're back to normal and
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: we can get on track again. But they very quickly
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: wind up. This woman wakes up. They don't want to
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: toss her over the side because she'll drown, and I
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: just I'm really curious how you guys feel about the
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: fact that killing an enemy doesn't seem to be something
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: they are willing to do. Here, I can't decide how
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: I feel, because like, on the one hand, this lady
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: wasn't killing them, she was transforming them. On the other hand,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: they were dying of suffocation because of the transformation, and
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: she did not seem to care. And so the fact
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: that they were like, well, we can't just drop her
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: over the side, I had a really strong kind of
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: like why not reaction to this, And I'm curious about
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: like if anybody else also stopped and went, I would
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: think this is the perfect opportunity for you to drop
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: her over the side and not deal with her anymore.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: And so when she wakes up and starts causing trouble again,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: it's really like, well, clearly, like what did you expect?
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: You know? Ooh sorry, Florian says. It has been said
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: more than one time that Nami can kind of predict
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: the weather, even in the Grand line where that's not
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: really possible, and it is, and that is her body
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: so just so attuned to the weather. It seems okay, God,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: it's just like you're right. But also in comparison to
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: like what everybody else I just listed is able to do,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: that is so incredibly weak sauce that it's hard for
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: me to even take it seriously as like in answer,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: like it's an important tool, you know, and so I
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: don't want to completely discount it. But just like Soanji
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: can slice a whole ship in half, Soanji can fly,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: and she can predict the weather pretty well, like it's
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: just it's just so that's not helpful in a battle anyway,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: but fair I will give you that. So let's see,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to make sure because like I spent so
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: much time talking about like the first couple of things.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: There's a guy named Gladyus that we eventually meet, who
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: is talking with Baby five, and he is super upset
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: about the fact that Violet betrayed them and glad he
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: This look like changes over the course of this conversation
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: because his head starts to sort of like expand as
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: he's getting more and more agitated, and eventually his hair
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: pops out from underneath this like hood he was wearing,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: and he's got this incredibly cool looking This guy has
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: I think the dopest esthetic of anybody on the show
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: so far. And I believe the reason that I feel
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: this way is because he looks like he has just
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: stepped out of Fury Road. You know. There's just because
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: he's got so much like metal and gromets, and there's
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: like he has a couple of he's got like goggles
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: on and this mask that completely covers the bottom half
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: of his face. When his hair pops out, it's these
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: really awesome, like blue white spikes that stand up like
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: three feet from the back of his head. It's just
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: he looks really, really awesome, and I hope that he
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: becomes something, because I want him around just for the
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: dope look he's got. So then we have Sanji has
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: decided that he is going to go and help the
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: straw Hats, and so even though he and Violet have
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: like the uh information to go to the House of Toys,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: he hands that off to the Samurai and he is
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: heading back to the ship, and as they're going, Violet
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: is using her power of clairvoyance where she can, like
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: she says, it stretches for twenty five hundred was it
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: miles or feet? I'm trying to see the moment where
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: she's like, let's see, you're not supposed to be riding
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: this steed with me. I told you to wait back
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: at the harbor, you naughty girl, She says, I would,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: but it's crawling with marines. This this horse by the way,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: you guys, it's a toy horse and it looks insane.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: But yeah, she says, I count four battleships told total.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: That means there are at least three thousand marines scattered
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: across the city as we speak. And he's like, how
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: did you find that out in such a short time,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: And she explains about the clairvoyants twenty five hundred miles.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: That is a crazy power twenty one hundred that's a
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: lot like damn allows me to survey the land from
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: a point of view like a bird in flight. And
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: so he's asking about the ship, and for a minute,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: she can't even see it, which is apparently Ogiola is
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: the name of the art art fruit Lady. But she
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: apparently her power like hides it and eventually the ship
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: snaps back into view. But she tells Soangy, she not
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Giola's she being Violet tells him it's just been struck
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: by lightning. And I love the fact that, like anybody
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: else would be like, oh shit, but he understands what
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Nami's abilities are and it's just like, oh okay. So
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: that means that like Nami is still alive. That's something.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: And as this like fight goes back and forth, Goola
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: she does this power that's called like Heaven's Door art
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: and it transforms her into this giant being with like
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: all of these arms. And I'll tell you what, guys,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: the Heaven's Door. It was very tough for me to
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: not think of the Heaven's Gate cult that wind up
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: doing that like mass a side twenty years ago or something.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: It was every time she mentioned it, because she says
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Heaven's door a couple of times, I was just like, ooh,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: I know that this is not at all, like it's
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: not your fault that those things have been conflated in
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: my head, but I can't help it. And all of
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: these arms that she is like created, Brooke just chops off.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: And it's really not a big deal in terms of
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: how impressive the power looks initially compared to like how
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: ineffective it winds up being. But it's it's certainly very showy,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: and she's an artist, so I guess that makes sense.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: So last episode, like I already kind of talked about
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: how we meet a bunch more people that are in
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: the Colosseum, the other major thing that happens, because it's
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: a lot more of like Rebecca goes non fighting and
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Louviy watching her and lots of boob shots. But eventually
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: we get the green bit section where Law and Dol
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Flamingo are continuing to fight and Law had been being
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: held down. It's the way that the power works from
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: the blind Admiral I forgot his name as well, is
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: so interesting to me, but he is. He's talking to Law,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: and Law is saying something about like he eventually gets
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: a hold of what he thinks is Caesar's heart, and
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: Law says something like, you know, are you so sure
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: that that's his heart actually, and Dol Flamingo squeezes it
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: just to see, and as soon as he squeezes it,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Caesar freaks out. And I thought he was freaking out
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: because it was his heart and that he was reacting
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: to the pain, but it turns out that it's like
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: a preemptive reaction. He is wincing in anticipation of the
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: pain that hasn't that doesn't wind up showing up at all.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: So we see that that heart is actually one of
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: the admirals men. So he gets pretty pissed off at
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: realizing that one of his guys has had his heart removed.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: I loved that all the other men around him are like, hey, dude,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: are you okay? They're like really worried for him, and
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Do Flamingo is trying to distract or No Laws trying
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: to distract Do Flamingo from noticing the ship that's heading
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: towards Green Bit, but unfortunately they are attacked by fighting
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: fish and so they are screaming and yelling in response,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: and they draw all of this attention and Do Flamingo
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: turns and spots them, and he's like, oh, I see
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: what you were doing, and is like, all right, well,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go deal with this, and so he turns
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: and flies off, as Law tries to be like, no, no, no,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: this doesn't have anything to do with them, and the
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: end of the episode is him like heading for them,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: and the fighting fish seeing Do Flamingo and immediately being
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: like oh shit, and running if fish can run, swimming
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: away and all like the whole crew being like why
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: did the fish just leave? And then poor Chopper sees
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: him and is like, oh no, and we have Giola
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: being like, oh, the Master's coming. Nice finally, like I
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: don't have to worry about this anymore. And his last
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: thing that he says is I hope you're watching Law,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: because I'm about to eviscerate your pathetic little companions right
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: before your eyes. And that is the end of the episode,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: So we'll have to see what happens here. She's yelling
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: I forgot that. Sanji like swoops in right here, but
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: we don't actually see the fight. He just says, you
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: made my crewmates cry and you're going down. So we're
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: gonna get to see Sanji and his like superpowered non
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: devil fruit eating self versus a devil fruit eater and
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: somebody who was allegedly really really powerful but whose powers
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: I don't have a great grip on you. I still
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: don't quite understand. So I'll be very excited to see
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: how this goes. Definitely more invested in that fight than
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: the tournament. All Right, guys, thank you again so much
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: for listening. I'm sorry I've been so down on these
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: past couple of recordings, but it is what it is,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: and it's going to happen sometimes. And thank you to
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Florian for commissioning this. Until next time to the Loo motherfuckers.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: That was an unspoiled network