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Dr. Marc Siegel | 05-25-26 · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Sid and Friends in the morning entertaining and informative on
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  Speaker 1: the Red Apple podcast Network.
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  Speaker 2: We're on the line right now with our good friend,
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  Speaker 2: my good friend, doctor Mark Siegel. And doctor Siegel. We've
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  Speaker 2: got a lot of health stories in the news right now,
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  Speaker 2: but obviously the big one is this ebola outbreak in
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  Speaker 2: the Congo. And I guess the scariest thing that I
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  Speaker 2: heard in the last twenty four hours was that some
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  Speaker 2: of the people in the Congo angry that the bodies
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  Speaker 2: of their loved ones weren't turned back over to them,
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  Speaker 2: so they set fire to these ten hospitals and then
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  Speaker 2: so doing at least eighteen patients left and we don't
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  Speaker 2: know where they are. I mean, this is pretty scary.
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  Speaker 3: Doctor, well this stuff at Lisa. Bola outbreaks have been
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  Speaker 3: occurring for a decade now, and over a decade, two decades,
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  Speaker 3: and actually the whole idea about lack of a healthcare infrastructure, Jake,
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  Speaker 3: and the idea of you know, warring regions, and that's
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  Speaker 3: what we're worried about right because it's getting into Sudan
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  Speaker 3: now and Congo, the Democratic Republic of Congo and Uganda.
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  Speaker 3: Not only do they have CDC boots on the ground
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  Speaker 3: and they have their own methods of taking care of ebola.
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  Speaker 3: But when we get into the more war torn regions
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  Speaker 3: that you're talking about, we're going to see more spread. Now.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty and fourteen to sixteen we saw twenty eight thousand cases.
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  Speaker 3: We're about in a thousand cases now, so that dwarfs this.
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  Speaker 3: But there's a couple of caveats. One is that the
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  Speaker 3: Zayir strain, which is the one that caused the prior outbreak,
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  Speaker 3: we have a vaccine for that now which is eighty
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  Speaker 3: to ninety percent effective. We can tweak that vaccine and
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  Speaker 3: get a vaccine to the Bunga bugio strain, which is
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  Speaker 3: what this is. But right now we don't have any vaccine,
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  Speaker 3: we don't have treatment. A lot of stuff is in
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  Speaker 3: the works, but we don't have it, and so it
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  Speaker 3: will spread without the ability to control it. And that's
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  Speaker 3: one of the things we worry about, and we worry
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  Speaker 3: about again at getting into war torn regions. But surprisingly
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  Speaker 3: it's not new. That doesn't make it better. It's just
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  Speaker 3: that it's not new. And your point that of how
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  Speaker 3: it's spreading is correct. You need close contact to spread this.
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  Speaker 3: It's not spreading through the air. The difficulty of supreading
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  Speaker 3: it human to human is actually something on our side.
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  Speaker 3: But if you get it, the death rate is somewhere
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  Speaker 3: between thirty and fifty percent. So that's one of the
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  Speaker 3: that's why we're so worried about it.
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  Speaker 2: Anything different this time around, and you mentioned it's a
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  Speaker 2: different strain, But anything different this time? I mean, have
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  Speaker 2: did we learn some lessons here? And I guess that.
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  Speaker 2: My other question is this, you know, one of the
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  Speaker 2: worst things about the way the COVID crisis was handled
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  Speaker 2: in this country is that some of the institutions that
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  Speaker 2: people used to trust did not act in an exemplary fashion.
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  Speaker 2: Let's face it, the WHO, especially the World Health Organization.
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  Speaker 2: I'm worried doctor that whenever we hear about these things
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  Speaker 2: breaking out there, you know, it'll be like the boy
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  Speaker 2: the wolf. Suddenly there will be a real emergency. And
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  Speaker 2: the credibility was eroded during COVID. I mean, is that
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  Speaker 2: something that keeps you up at night?
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  Speaker 3: Two? No, because the thing with COVID was way more
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  Speaker 3: complicated than that. Honestly, I think that that it became political,
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  Speaker 3: but not simply for the reason you say. Here's what
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  Speaker 3: my view on COVID is to bore you for thirty
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  Speaker 3: seconds A. I don't think they took seriously where did
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  Speaker 3: this virus come from. I think that you had people
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  Speaker 3: in the lab in Wuhan playing with back coronaviruses, the
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  Speaker 3: who at least then possibly now had a lot of
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  Speaker 3: Chinese health officials involved with it, and it was in
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  Speaker 3: their interests to call it a regional problem while it
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  Speaker 3: was spreading around the world. We never have really answered
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  Speaker 3: where it came from. I don't I don't focus on
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  Speaker 3: what count Tony Fauci was doing in that regard because
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  Speaker 3: I know him and I think that he was trying
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  Speaker 3: to actually be helpful. But he also stepped outside his
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  Speaker 3: lane when he guy into public health. He's more of
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  Speaker 3: an immunologist than a vaccine guy, and so the public
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  Speaker 3: distrust came from conflicting messages. And unfortunately, this is the
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  Speaker 3: part you may disagree with, Jake. I think the pushback
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  Speaker 3: to the messaging and the almost totalitarian flavor to it,
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna go here, We're going to restrict you without
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  Speaker 3: the science to back it up. I think the reaction
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  Speaker 3: to that has almost been as bad as the problem,
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  Speaker 3: because there's been no trust in public health and we
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  Speaker 3: have people running the show now that we're basically just
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  Speaker 3: against whatever it was that was shoved down our throat before.
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  Speaker 3: That doesn't make them rite either. Let's look at mRNA
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  Speaker 3: vaccine technology, which has been getting a bloody nose now
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  Speaker 3: for years.
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  Speaker 4: A very big bloody nose in a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: are blaming that technology on a lot of debts from
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  Speaker 4: the COVID vaccine. And right after you talk about that,
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  Speaker 4: please talk about that.
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  Speaker 3: And I know you think that, John, and I adore you,
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  Speaker 3: but I also think that it saved many lives. And
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  Speaker 3: the reason I know it's saved live but two die,
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  Speaker 3: I agree with that, agree with that. You're a smart guy.
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  Speaker 3: This is why you're so successful. And while we're at it,
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  Speaker 3: let's say that we should we should get Christidi's to
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  Speaker 3: shut down, Ma'm donnie, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, And we should carry on the organic fruit.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit more, Bobko. It also helps.
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  Speaker 3: Jake, Jake, and I'm glad that. I'm glad that that
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  Speaker 3: John has. By the way, Jake is one of my
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  Speaker 3: dear friends for many, many many years. The reason why
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  Speaker 3: love you too, Yeah, he loves me, really loves me.
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  Speaker 3: I come from the wrong tribe for him. But the
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  Speaker 3: but the reason that I'm bringing up m r and A,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, is specific, which is that there are
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  Speaker 3: m RNA vaccines that are becoming available for ebola. That's it.
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  Speaker 3: That's the only reason. I'm not really trying to relitigate that.
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  Speaker 3: I think you're right, Jake, that there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: life that went on, but it led to a reaction. Also,
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  Speaker 3: that public health is about gaining public trust, and you
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  Speaker 3: don't gain that by forcing people to do things, and
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  Speaker 3: especially when you use nineteen eighteen reasoning for something that's
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  Speaker 3: occurring one hundred years later. That whole thing with the
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  Speaker 3: six foot distancing in the lockdowns was based on an
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  Speaker 3: idea from nineteen eighteen when we had no technology. So
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to see any of that happening now.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't see it. You know, what's happening now
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  Speaker 3: is that the Democrats are using Ebola to try to
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  Speaker 3: claim that the administration can handle an outbreak. That's pure bunk.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, the boots on the ground in the
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  Speaker 3: Democratic Republic of Congo and in Uganda, our top notch
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  Speaker 3: CDC has a big presence there. We have the Epidemic
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  Speaker 3: Intelligence Service there. CDC is participating. You know, the real
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  Speaker 3: question is whether the countries that have the broken down
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  Speaker 3: infrastructure because of war can handle this outbreak. But I
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  Speaker 3: don't want fear to control our response. Here. We had
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  Speaker 3: twenty eight times more cases in twenty fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Mark Siegel, Thank you so much for keeping us
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  Speaker 2: updated on all of that.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Also, you've been on the air this morning talking about sepsis.
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  Speaker 2: That major story we haven't gotten to yet about the
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  Speaker 2: death of Kyle Busch. Just a quick reminder. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: you'll back me up on this. If you have a
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  Speaker 2: major injury or malady, make sure that your medical professionals
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  Speaker 2: are looking for signs of sepsis.
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  Speaker 3: Correct, doctor, Yeah, let me talk about that for a
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  Speaker 3: minute before you throw me out. I actually was the
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  Speaker 3: first to say that this was likely pneumonia. It's because
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  Speaker 3: he had a severe sinus infection that wasn't responding. I
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  Speaker 3: thought it was suspicious that a doctor came over there
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  Speaker 3: a few days ago and suddenly gave him a shot.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that was probably antibiotics. I want to point
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  Speaker 3: out that you know, on a racetrack, with all those
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  Speaker 3: fumes and the toxins that that can drive infections likely
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  Speaker 3: can drive infections deeper into the lungs. And the point
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  Speaker 3: you just made, Jake is that it can turn from
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  Speaker 3: pneumonia to sepsis very quickly. What sepsis is is the
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  Speaker 3: immune system basically turning against you. It makes a lot
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  Speaker 3: of inflammation and the body's not prepared for it, so
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  Speaker 3: your kidneys shut down and you get acid in your
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  Speaker 3: blood and your lungs filled with fluid. And that's what
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  Speaker 3: looks like what happened to him, and it's a warning
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  Speaker 3: sign that it can happen to you in any age.
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  Speaker 3: And thirty to forty percent of severe pneumonia untreated turns
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  Speaker 3: into sepsis. And people that are on are in racing cars,
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of our sports heroes and a lot
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  Speaker 3: of our heroes in general don't think of themselves as
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  Speaker 3: vulnerable in this way. So it's a big wake up
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  Speaker 3: call for how quickly things can change. Luckily, Casimetites has
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  Speaker 3: me on speed dial and Peter also on speed dial,
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  Speaker 3: so nothing's happening.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. Between Mark Siegel and Peter Mihllos, we have him,
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  Speaker 4: you know, he take care of WABC listeners. Thank you
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  Speaker 4: so much, doctor Siegel, and have a great rest of today.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, thanks very much, and let's.
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  Speaker 4: Take a break and we're going to come back with
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